*And this is how a few cones can create a huge mess in one of the busiest airspaces in the world. Cones on the way, an aircraft blocking the main landing runway and minds starting to blow! KUDOS FOR THOSE APPROACH CONTROLLERS!*
@EG-06115 жыл бұрын
We request the continuation of story. Who put them, why they were there, why no one notied them and who got lost his job. I think it is the "goodbye salute" of a retiring worker.
@oscarolie57435 жыл бұрын
China Eastern is not helping, lol... Ps: Like always, another cool stream, VASAviation!!!
@HakingMC5 жыл бұрын
@@oscarolie5743 What? The Chinese pilot spoke and understood English well. No point did they made a mess.
@phapnui5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, CE should have just run over the cones.
@RobertSzasz5 жыл бұрын
When was this? Did Chris Christie move up from shutting down bridge approaches to shutting down runways?
@Mr.Ramirez955 жыл бұрын
The CONES forgot to contact ground on 123.9 to taxi off the runway.
@VASAviation5 жыл бұрын
123.9 is JFK TWR.
@aleyp635 жыл бұрын
Maybe they're taking off. Then it's 123.9 or 119.1
@charissaschultz58864 жыл бұрын
Mr. Ramirez this made me cackle at 2 in the morning thank you
@asomind4 жыл бұрын
@@craigbryant3191 classic Steve!
@FlyingBoxHead4 жыл бұрын
You see they called Ground, "RAMP", and no one is talking to them for the rest of the day for such disrespect.
@robot_spider4 жыл бұрын
I love how neutrally angry the controller is. Sounds like he's going to give the pilot a new asshole until pilot says "cones on the runway" and he's immediately angry with someone else and gets it resolved.
@sandydog4264 жыл бұрын
@juggliar I don't think he was being an asshole, I think he was trying to encourage the pilot to communicate with him in a more timely, urgent manner considering multiple planes were trying to come in behind him.
@YVRCasting4 жыл бұрын
@@sandydog426 yes the pilots were very slow with their communication & were also crawling slowly to get off the runway the whole time ... before they knew about a cones situation 👀💬✔
@PandorasFolly4 жыл бұрын
Air traffic controller, one of The Most stressful jobs. Mandatory retirement at 56.
@slickstretch63914 жыл бұрын
Nah, he's not angry. He's from New Jersey.
@Circenn4 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen "neutrally angry". I'm used to seeing "passive aggressive"
@SkyWayMan904 жыл бұрын
"I'm not yelling at you, I'm asking you" lmao classic JFK
@allenlark4 жыл бұрын
He was like, oop that last bit sounded harsh.
@bsce1004 жыл бұрын
Yeah New Yorkers are trash. They don’t know how to speak without sounding like they are yelling or being rude.
@BearFoodForYou4 жыл бұрын
@@bsce100 So true. Only peopel who live or travel through NYC know this. Total shithole now from the riots.
@Salsuero3 жыл бұрын
I think it was an excellent distinction to make, especially with foreigners who may not understand the tone used and might assume incorrectly. It was a nice way to deescalate before it needed to be deescalated by simply saying "my bad, I realize this is tense and I don't mean to sound like a dick". Give the ATC credit for recognizing he may have been misunderstood as hostile.
@GathKingLeppbertI3 жыл бұрын
@@Salsuero you're blessed a right brother
@laciffy5 жыл бұрын
Who installed VLC on that runway?
@techelpr5 жыл бұрын
I just have to tell you, that comment made my day! LOL
@g00rb4u5 жыл бұрын
@@techelpr
@williamgenio5 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOOOOOOOL :D :D :D
@pepethepatriot75245 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU
@Falkano5 жыл бұрын
😂 well played
@sliovic5 жыл бұрын
Who would win.?..? 1. A multi-million dollar vehicle. 2. Some orange white plastic things.
@Gawagu5 жыл бұрын
They could mark something important like a damaged runway or stuff on the runway. Both and the cones can be dangerous especially at high speeds.
@happycampertahoe5 жыл бұрын
It’s more like who would win: $7 traffic cone $54,000,000 engine Unfortunately probably the cones
@johnneedham65375 жыл бұрын
A multi million dollar engine would certainly lose to an ingested plastic cone!
@Gawagu5 жыл бұрын
+Devon Perry Or one of the $0.01 screws or whatever marked by the cones ;-) Like in the famous Concorde crash where "aircraft ... ran over debris on the runway during takeoff, blowing a tyre and puncturing a fuel tank" killed 113 people: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_4590
@rjhornsby5 жыл бұрын
When a multimillion dollar turbofan engine ingests a $50 “orange white plastic” bit of FOD, there are no winners.
@balsoft014 жыл бұрын
I feel for the Aeroflot pilot. When you know 25 words in English and "cone" is not one of them... I know that feeling.
@twierdza3014 жыл бұрын
ORANGE POINTY THING! , wait what? :D
@martinbudinsky89124 жыл бұрын
Doesnt have to be that their english is limited. They might be fluent even. Its just that cone isnt word you need to use everyday. I often forget words in my native tongue and have to think for a second to remember.
@stupidburp4 жыл бұрын
The trick is to use words that come to mind that still provide the essential information. For example the pilot could say "runway is obstructed" or "objects are on the runway".
@mastersuper71494 жыл бұрын
ice cream cone lol
@cripto1364 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my childhood. English was hard, so many words!
@Willam_J5 жыл бұрын
Tower: “Cleared to ASALT” Pilot: “Affirmative. Assaulting co-pilot now. I can’t stand this guy.”
@haiwatigere62025 жыл бұрын
William J. That is good
@hectichive8895 жыл бұрын
What did “ASALT” actually mean? I’m just curious
@Ep3395 жыл бұрын
Hectic Hive I believe it is a Rnav waypoint
@LIPDProductionsInc4 жыл бұрын
That’s a Kennedy Steve moment right there
@charissaschultz58864 жыл бұрын
William J. Oh my god 😂
@John-jg4vi5 жыл бұрын
Lmao that poor aeroflot pilot sounded so bewildered by the whole situation. Even though it wasn't his fault it still has to feel awful that it is because of your plane on the runway that all hell is breaking loose.
@carschmn5 жыл бұрын
Johnny he also probably had to look up the word for the stupid orange things in the way.
@wetlettuce47685 жыл бұрын
@@carschmn The first officer was certaily looking them up on Google translate lol.
@DorianTMChannel4 жыл бұрын
@@wetlettuce4768 "Aeroflot 122..." "Aeroflot 122 we cant move... because there are uh.... cones in the runway"
@schmilew12304 жыл бұрын
@@wetlettuce4768 idk why I'm laughing 'cause I had to look up cones on Google translate before I watched the video
@Sethgolas4 жыл бұрын
He should have said why he couldn't proceed instead of just repeating that he could not proceed.
@Volcanicsquash5 жыл бұрын
"The Port Authority is playing games" LMFAO
@Dowlphin5 жыл бұрын
They were re-enacting the Cone Wars.
@brandonquinones96525 жыл бұрын
The New Yorker jumped out
@chrish9315 жыл бұрын
It was the annual Port Authority autocross that day and they forgot to pick up their cones.
@adamjacobs86064 жыл бұрын
Call your boss.... So you can not HAVE a boss anymore
@Mercilessonion4 жыл бұрын
@@adamjacobs8606 Sorry Control Tower, you may not have your boss
@AamarAV5 жыл бұрын
Half expected the pilots to climb down, remove the cones, get back in the plane and continue taxiing. It's Aeroflot after all.
@klamin_original5 жыл бұрын
AamarAV remember the Lufthansa pilot who climbed down the cockpit ladder to check a panel? ;)
@Zeta368peep5 жыл бұрын
If somebody landed in a smaller prop craft, I can assure you that would of been the case.
@markofexcellence52095 жыл бұрын
Remember the German pilots who got out and closed a door on their plane? Haha
@klamin_original5 жыл бұрын
Mark of Excellence that’s exactly what I said already
@klamin_original5 жыл бұрын
Mark of Excellence they do, they do ;)
@PanduPoluan5 жыл бұрын
The Aeroflot pilots needed a couple of second to figure out the word "cones" there xD But they are undeniably *very* polite, apologizing for the chaos indirectly caused; Kennedy Gnd had to keep saying that "it's not your fault, sir". Very professional showing of everyone there. Kudos!
@MilwaukeeF40C5 жыл бұрын
Rubber products.
@Riker19905 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they might not be too proficient with "everyday" english, and I highly doubt that traffic cones are something that interfere with pilot's work on a daily basis :P and yep, very professional on their side.
@PanduPoluan5 жыл бұрын
@@Riker1990 Exactly! I may have misconstrued my intention there... not making fun of them for not remembering "cones" earlier. Heck, in the same situation, I too would do the same... and probably end up saying "those orange triangle thingies" xD
5 жыл бұрын
they could just say orange FO
@PeterPaul-wz5db5 жыл бұрын
Pandu Poluan ... I'm not so sure ... maybe reporting the facts appeared too embarrassing to report and believed ... fear of being ridiculed for seeing things that are not supposed to be there in the first place ...
@Garythefireman665 жыл бұрын
Great job by ATC and the pilots. Not so much Port Authority Department of Cone Management
@matt_b...5 жыл бұрын
Dept of Cone Management is responsible for cone PLACEMENT ONLY. Not cone pickup. C'mon man.
@norbertblackrain23795 жыл бұрын
The Department of Cone Removal will be formed in the next fiscal year ...
@brianjreintjes5 жыл бұрын
Darn coneheads
@LucaPed945 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt say good job really, they handled it but they were really i guess you can say rough with the controls. I get its super stressful and they sounded that way but for example at 5:25 his responce was pretty rude. Once again i get that he doesnt know if 13L will be ready for the American Airlines arrival but the pilot or F/O was just asking. Ive watched many of these videos with ATC acting more professional and calm in a much more stressful case.
@galdavonalgerri21015 жыл бұрын
In the UK, people say there is the NCB - National Cone Board reesponsible. Is there a counterpart in US America? May be they are all send to south border setting up cones against immigrants :-/
@ifmg11635 жыл бұрын
Tutorial: How to mess up every Pilots day. Step1: place a cone on the runway. Step2: watch what happens.
@MichaelClark-uw7ex4 жыл бұрын
How to destroy an aircraft and endanger everyone on board Step1: suck a traffic cone into a turbine engine Step2: pray
@user-pr4ww4pt1x4 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelClark-uw7ex works as well
@whyyuna695 жыл бұрын
Aeroflot pilot too kind keep saying sorry when its not even his fault
@John-gm5mf5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who flys into JFK know that controller is notoriously hot-headed, although he's very good.
@DJAUDIO15 жыл бұрын
I miss Kennedy Steve.
@essel23fly5 жыл бұрын
He’s apologizing cuz he has no idea what’s going on with their basic English
@Arcadiez5 жыл бұрын
Well, if he was looking a bit ahead he may have prevented the blockage of the active runway. It is not his fault by any means but with teamwork they could have gone any other taxiway.
@Kyorisu5 жыл бұрын
Saying sorry doesn't always mean you are admitting fault.
@avjayk5 жыл бұрын
Wow! The ripple effect of those cones was unbelievable.
@Dowlphin5 жыл бұрын
It's the Cone Effect.
@Nikola167894 жыл бұрын
I've read some article about aircraft couldn't take off at Hawaii, or somewhere like that, because Space Shuttle taking off at Florida and scheduled to drop their fuel tank to reenter and burn in atmosphere above Pacific. But then, Space Shuttle got delayed because their alternate landing airport in Africa got closed for some reason.
@MichaelClark-uw7ex4 жыл бұрын
If one of those got sucked into an engine, the result would not be a good thing.
@TrveIrrlicht4 жыл бұрын
A cone standing on JFK runway produces delays in BKK, FRA, SFO half a day later.
@thelastroman77913 жыл бұрын
Just like the Ever Given.
@sbtjlhw1114 жыл бұрын
when you accidentally dragged a PDF file into VLC Player
@gen1574 жыл бұрын
Then it tries to play it anyway, and since you have repeat on, it just keeps trying to play it until it crashes.
@MrZenzio5 жыл бұрын
"Those should not be there."
@Dowlphin5 жыл бұрын
I'd have responded: "Was my guess, too." 😆
@robrs86315 жыл бұрын
“I am sorry for that. I get back to you in a minute.”
@CRegion5 жыл бұрын
Every time you feel like the world around is going upside down and everything is wrong, just listen to the way these guys are making their jobs. Just amazing
@instant_mint5 ай бұрын
I think you just put your finger on one major reason I get so much enjoyment and fulfilment out of watching these videos
@zachanikwano3 жыл бұрын
God bless the kindness Steve showed to the initial pilot. Poor guy was apologizing and he kept reassuring him it wasn't his fault. He didn't really need to but he did anyway.
@pauliverson1703 Жыл бұрын
I recognized that voice as Steve’s
@5calambres4 жыл бұрын
You know its worse than "Call me, say when ready to copy towers number" when he says "CALL YOUR BOSS!"
@krishna14085 жыл бұрын
In Russia, they would Reverse Thrust those cones off.
@nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn51925 жыл бұрын
Krishna Malhotra lol, but no. SOP is very similar in Russia. RT is still a big NO NO. Only for deceleration.
@fittygames44075 жыл бұрын
ariannasv22 me2 Xd
@Dowlphin5 жыл бұрын
And then another plane shortly after: "Tower, our left engine is defective. Needed to abort takeoff." - "What happened?" - "We suffered a cone strike." - "And I know exactly what you mean."
@akyjay095 жыл бұрын
Tower - “there are cones in the runway!” Aeroflot pilot - “Fuck Them.... this is Russia!!!””
@davidliu22435 жыл бұрын
xD
@AIRDRAC4 жыл бұрын
A thing that many people seem to be missing is that apart from the potential damage to the engines, if they suck up the cones, they are usually placed for a reason. If there was ongoing repairs on the runway, you could risk destroying the landing gear if it dropped into a hole, or risk a truck crossing the runway, assuming that it would be empty, because it is closed off.
@TruFalco2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even if tower took accountability, if there was something there, everyone would have gotten in trouble.
@Ibigoo5 жыл бұрын
"no need to worry (...) we're unable to move ahead" funny guy.
@MilwaukeeF40C5 жыл бұрын
How long would they have just sat there after saying that?
@ORA19785 жыл бұрын
'No need to worry' is a reply on the question from TWR wether they have an emergency (since they suddenly stopped moving). They are just unable to move ahead and meanwhile using Google translate on конус. I'm pretty proficient in English (I'm Dutch) but had to think about the Dutch word for these (kegel/pilon/pion) let alone translate it to English. It's not something that comes up often unless you work in traffic routing or sports.
@briannefowler4 жыл бұрын
When listing to it again I’m pretty sure he actually said “nowhere to go, we’re unable to move ahead”
@williamcotton90403 жыл бұрын
Whenever something goes wrong on JFK Ground: "Get me Car 99 immediately!"
@emoluv548654 жыл бұрын
Now imagine Air Jamaica saying “request go around , we’re a little high”.
@MiGujack34 жыл бұрын
Can't go down when you have the HIGH GROUND
@hihfty4 жыл бұрын
i laughed way harder at this then i should have.
@Amadea274 жыл бұрын
@@hihfty same 😂
@BearFoodForYou4 жыл бұрын
lulz
@sarge68703 жыл бұрын
Just spit coffee out of my nose...THANKS!!! :D
@TheJustin5745 жыл бұрын
How many thousands in jet fuel spent as a result of this mistake?
@VASAviation5 жыл бұрын
A whole lot of pounds and dollars...
@buddyclem73285 жыл бұрын
@@VASAviation *That's* a phrase you don't hear every day!
@davidliu22435 жыл бұрын
Well over 5000 gallons of fuel
@andrewjackson48004 жыл бұрын
Do they get wholesale prices on that? 🤔
@M16Joe4 жыл бұрын
@@davidliu2243 i thing with planes gallons/liters become irrelevent. I believe they use Lbs/Kilos since plane essentually burn off Gallons/liters very very quickly.
@ZenkaiAnkoku22 жыл бұрын
The ATC's tone when he said "There's CONES on the runway???" xD And that poor pilot! Glad they got it worked out and no one was mad at him. He handled it quite well :)
@emraef2 жыл бұрын
JetBlue 1001 was really trying to be efficient in their communication when they realized ATC was having trouble managing this mess, love to see it!
@tednorberto30865 жыл бұрын
Geez! The cone-spiry in this is unimaginable. Just the feeling of stress must've been huge. Kudos to cone-trollers. Stayed calm and collected.
@davecarlsen72125 жыл бұрын
I had a laugh-out-loud moment just after 8:57 "so am I".
@Luna_LU65465 жыл бұрын
"TWR this is JFK FINAL APP, requesting 13L"
@davidliu22435 жыл бұрын
When you're just lazy to say out the whole thing again lol
@panzervitiger38825 жыл бұрын
I am always wondering how those ATC can understand what some pilots say, that’s pretty impressive lmao
@razortm99474 жыл бұрын
It's really hard at first, but you get an ear for it over time. I did ATC in Japan and trying to figure out the "English" spoken there wasn't fun.
@gabrieltassi40304 жыл бұрын
Panzer VI Tiger Audio quality is much better up there. Also, they are kind of expecting what to listen
@rogerwilco24 жыл бұрын
@@gabrieltassi4030 I find it dangerous that you start expecting, instead of listening. One of the previous videos, it was clear the ATC was hearing what was expected, but the pilot was confused and saying other things. Almost caused a collision.
@Blade406884 жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised I haven’t heard a controller tell a pilot to stop deep throating a mic yet, I know I want to.
@gabrieltassi40304 жыл бұрын
@@rogerwilco2 What I meant by that is that you still listen, but you expect what to hear. For most of these atc recordings we listen here, we are not familiar with the area or familiar with the procedures. These pilots/atc are immersed in the situation. They know which arrival/departure they are doing, relevant fixes nearby, taxiway names...
@weidwingelobjegdiv5 жыл бұрын
First we've got unruly airmarshal, now we got unruly cones...
@DavidWsTrainVideos5 жыл бұрын
Reddytheteddy Reddytheteddy and a unruly flu virus as well
@maxmustermann1945 жыл бұрын
Not the cones fault, they were put in a bad position.
@weidwingelobjegdiv5 жыл бұрын
I myself identify as a cone. You saying they were put there would make it kidnapping and possible sexual harrassement. Cone live matters
@maxmustermann1945 жыл бұрын
@@weidwingelobjegdiv I mean psychologically they were put in a bad position. Cones lives matter
@IntoTheNothing15 жыл бұрын
Same thing isnt it? lol
@ghstark5 жыл бұрын
Someone in ATC should just climb out of the tower and get down to the field and take away their cones. Tell the Port Authority they can pick up their cones tomorrow if they want to play with them some more.
@corywinters9565 жыл бұрын
Greg Stark then tell them they have proven themselves unable to be responsible to have cones and take away their cone privileges for 1 month.
@hectichive8895 жыл бұрын
I know you’re probably joking but that would be dangerous. The ATCs job is to direct air traffic and if they got out and left there’d be a whole lot of pilots with no instructions on what to do.
@jfan4reva4 жыл бұрын
All they have to do is call one of the airport cars and have them pick them up. Looking at a map of JFK, the intersection of 13L and 22R looks to be about a mile away from the tower. That's a 40 minute walk, round trip. Of course, if a Ground Controller did that, he wouldn't really need to return to the tower. He'd be fired before he got back.
@devgru81975 жыл бұрын
This is why being an Air Traffic Controller is one of the most stressful jobs in the world.
@MikeJones-qn1gz3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a test in communication skills, organization, and paying attention to developing situations all at the same time and a mistake can be costly in money and somtimes lives
@electricheartpony3 жыл бұрын
They can only do 2 hours before government regulations say they need a break.
@alyx6427 Жыл бұрын
@@electricheartpony at JFK it's 60 minutes or 75 minutes at the absolute max apparently
@kalebrosenberg82949 ай бұрын
totally understandable, you want these people well rested and at the top of their game @@alyx6427
@Adam-vx1ib5 жыл бұрын
"Emirates 43C, the port authority is playing games now, standby."
@PanduPoluan5 жыл бұрын
The next Kennedy Steve in the making :D
@moritz19325 жыл бұрын
@@PanduPoluan I was sure this was the voice of Kennedy Steve but then I saw the date!?
@PeterPaul-wz5db5 жыл бұрын
Adam L ... in Germany they have a game called "Fang den Hut" ... played with cones where you try to land on top of your opponent and capture him ... hahaha ... some German U-boots had that game logo painted on the hull ...
@geekytraveler58995 жыл бұрын
to be honest - i didn't get that part of video. What was happening there? Why did they stop Emirates? Did they suspect him of placing cones ( LOL ) or what?
@geekytraveler58995 жыл бұрын
Withdrawing my question. I missed one sentence while listening that there also were cones on his way. JFK got a bomb (cones) alert all around it. :)
@schnaps17904 жыл бұрын
"You shall not pass" - Sir Orange Cone
@cbsergio5 жыл бұрын
"Stand by with that!" Savage.
@jiecut4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! 5:25
@DayInMontreal4 жыл бұрын
At the same time, it was the 2nd time in 2 calls. Like comon guys haha
@corywinters9565 жыл бұрын
How does someone forget they put cones out on a runway of all places and then leave?
@macmedic8925 жыл бұрын
A Cone Placement Technician 3 is not authorized to contact the tower. The communication operator in the Cone-trol Center has to contact the Control Tower. He can’t pick them up, either: that’s the responsibility of a Cone Recovery Specialist 2 or higher. Union rules.
@corywinters9565 жыл бұрын
They’re actually called Cone Placement Technician’s?
@macmedic8925 жыл бұрын
It’s a joke…
@corywinters9565 жыл бұрын
Oh thank God...
@cybersquire5 жыл бұрын
"Cone-trol Center" #Dead
@macmedic8925 жыл бұрын
Tower sounds an awful lot like Kennedy Steve… but then I noticed there weren’t ANY sarcastic comments, so…
@MilwaukeeF40C5 жыл бұрын
THOSE should not be there.
@moritz19325 жыл бұрын
but it really sounds like him!!
@JMPDev5 жыл бұрын
The ‘playing games’ comment seemed very Steve-like
@johnellis58284 ай бұрын
It was him. @@moritz1932
@edwardvarby43635 жыл бұрын
If alien airliners ever invade the earth, we'll know how to stop them! Cones!
@hizgrase3 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever!!
@hardtoregisteraname5 жыл бұрын
some person went home that day with 50 cones stuck up their backside right?
@MistrDamige5 жыл бұрын
They weren't going home except via a *really good* proctologist
@Dowlphin5 жыл бұрын
Someone might have had to wear one as a hat for a long time.
@loveforsberg5304 жыл бұрын
I don't know about ground crew, but a general philosophy in aviation is that blaming someone is much less important than fixing the issue and figuring out how the issue happened in the first place. Then again, this is 'Murica, home of the lawsuits.
@tigros402084 жыл бұрын
@@loveforsberg530 Probably depends on the error and what caused it. I work on the ramp for UPS and usually if its something unforeseen or very unusual they take that attitude. That being said I have seen people getting a cone shoved up their backside for driving behind a plane I'm walking out or parking in the way and ignoring wingwalkers.
@jimmiej85 жыл бұрын
A seemingly minor mistake of forgetting some cones that could’ve turned very bad. That’s a HUGE safety issue! Luckily everyone remained calm and professional on frequency and that’s a great job by the Approach Controller!
@alyx6427 Жыл бұрын
yeah, especially as cones usually indicate a closure or similar
@psps66233 жыл бұрын
Biggest delay caused by "Ey, u, Passangers!.....How u say "cone" in English?!"
@fayezhadichbaro65402 жыл бұрын
12:16 “the port authority is playing games”🤣🤣🤣
@crispy63115 жыл бұрын
I believe the runway had just been mopped. They don't just put cones on the runway for no reason. Duh.
@PeterPaul-wz5db5 жыл бұрын
Crispy .... that's the new law for the cleaning women in public places in Germany to put up cones ... they read "Caution - slippery when wet"
@Mercilessonion4 жыл бұрын
They were installing VLC
@luvondarox3 жыл бұрын
The graphics showing us what's going on are both adorable and invaluable! Thank you!
@lsmanufactur5 жыл бұрын
"Its a fluid situation" - Kennedy Steve ;)
@selftrue6705 жыл бұрын
"Who's the Cone-head that placed those on the runway?"--Kennedy Steve.
@yaosio5 жыл бұрын
The guy in the tower is good. The pilot in the plane that saw the cones wouldn't say why they couldn't move and the tower guy didn't just repeat the same thing over and over. In other videos ATC keeps saying the same thing and getting the same response back.
@Tricia_K3 жыл бұрын
*couldn't, not wouldn't - as an apparent EFL speaker, the pilot's need of a minute to translate "cones" was entirely reasonable imho!😊
@watermelon66313 жыл бұрын
You mean ESL?
@Tricia_K3 жыл бұрын
@@watermelon6631 The more basic English as a Foreign Language, as opposed to English as a Second Language, which is more in-depth
@Tricia_K3 жыл бұрын
@@watermelon6631 ...is what I meant - though I could be wrong, as "cones" would undoubtedly be a little obscure either way!
@watermelon66313 жыл бұрын
@@Tricia_K ok - thanks! i just read it as like English as a first language so i was like??? - yeah cones is not a n=commonly used word.
@jeffking55055 жыл бұрын
"The Port Authorities playing games" 😂😂😂
@EmperorFett5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if some cones had been out in bad weather and reduced visibility
@NickyD5 жыл бұрын
dont wanna even think of that
@KEIO-qd1zx5 жыл бұрын
It was at night so...
@spooks775 жыл бұрын
i imagine the plane will be just fine, those cones will get rpped to pieces or easly steered around, if u can see them
@6105boe5 жыл бұрын
spooks77 more likely (pieces of?) a cone or two get sucked into 1 or more engines, and I don't know what happens then but I'm pretty sure no pilot wants to find out. And especially no mechanic would want to find out.
@AEMoreira814 жыл бұрын
Chances are the 22s or 4s would have been active via an ILS approach.
@PilotFun1015 жыл бұрын
Great job by the crew. Thanks for sharing!
@jonb64173 жыл бұрын
That this could happen without ATC being aware is a real indictment of some serious system problem and also a massive lump of stupidity from someone! And that the Russian pilot/CP knew the English for cone is pretty good - well done Aeroflot!
@MajoradeMayhem2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, back in the Sad Corner with the Aeroflot.... Poor guys just have to sit there while chaos ensues.
@joseluislopes39563 жыл бұрын
JBU704: still standing by for runway assignment. ATC: So am I 🤣
@JFein4 жыл бұрын
ATC: “okay you can’t land on 13L, can you land on 13R?” China Eastern 297: “yes we accept 13R.” 30 seconds later China Eastern 297: “can we have runway 13L?” ATC: u wot
@shreddder9993 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was very irritating.
@IrishEddie3173 жыл бұрын
Wow! I have become fascinated by these videos and all that goes on in them. The ATC's are simply amazing. How they keep it all straight in their minds with proper altitudes, where everyone is, and what is going on is amazing to me.
@TheReck124 жыл бұрын
I have little idea of what their saying but the effective communication and organization when it comes to airports is so satisfying
@oceanle3 жыл бұрын
Who needs to watch a soap opera. This is so entertaining and it’s just “cones”.
@lostinasia255 жыл бұрын
Lets start with a NOTAM and work from there. How do you block a runway without ground/tower being aware?
@00BillyTorontoBill5 жыл бұрын
my thoughts too... mustve been closed, and after that ...a visual inspection isnt required?
@lloydfeng57165 жыл бұрын
NOTOMs were published that runway 4L closed and runway 31L southeast side shortened. I'd say they were relying on ASDE-X too much and not looking out the window
@AEMoreira815 жыл бұрын
A flashing X should have been placed at the 4L threshold then, and then cones on the taxiways south of the 13R/31L runway. 31L wouldn't be relevant since takeoffs were the opposite way (13R). If Kennedy Steve hadn't retired...
@SmittySmithsonite5 жыл бұрын
It's NY, Mike - I rest my case.
@Petra44YT3 жыл бұрын
Those Russian pilots looking up the word "cones" in their dictionary before they can answer. :-) At least that's what it sounds like.
@wntu45 жыл бұрын
So much respect for those ATC folks. They do an amazing job.
@beasaboy144 жыл бұрын
Can hear the stress in ATC voices even before there is an issue. They really need to do something to alleviate the pressure on them, it’s only gonna cause accidents otherwise.
@Nardur123213 жыл бұрын
a pandemic and drastic reduction in air traffic would do the trick.. oh wait..
@adepic79275 жыл бұрын
Cones: YOU SHALL NOT TAXI!
@irynasherepot98823 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to hear that conversation after about what were the cones doing there, and why the ATC controller didn't know about them
@Booboobear-eo4es4 жыл бұрын
Years ago when I was in a flying club, I took a Cessna 172 around the pattern one night. The winds were crazy but didn't have any problems. While taxiing back to the club parking area, an orange cone from a construction zone had blown onto a taxiway and was blocking it. I was able to squeeze around it but contacted the tower. They said they had no personnel to remove it. So I volunteered to walk out and remove it. There was already a twin engine aircraft stopped not able to proceed. I removed it and things kept moving.
@eoyguy4 жыл бұрын
Its terrifying to hear that the clearest, slowest and most understandable accent of all these calls is the very heavy, but slow and clear, American 1142 pilot with the southern accent...
@PlaneSpottingBerlin5 жыл бұрын
Requesting a Go Around :D
@AaronShenghao5 жыл бұрын
Aeroflot, go around, cones on the runway. Roger *the plane lands, went around the cones and exited runway *
@_filipovicluka5 жыл бұрын
'No you are not allowed to go around' :P
@evgeniymarchenko53255 жыл бұрын
Unable, continue approach)
@dominiquestephenson1955 жыл бұрын
no that would be Air Canada.
@sylwianilsson7618 Жыл бұрын
After listening to half of this video my head hurts and I'm beginning to wonder how there's not more accidents. That's a lot to keep track of, so many planes, and some cones. Happy to stay completely oblivious of what's going on while I'm comfortable in my seat in the cabin. A fact that will not change even after this video.
@Frankey23104 жыл бұрын
Wow, those dispatchers are really pushing the limits of the airport's capacity! Not like it's a bad thing, but telling pilots to hurry up on the runway because someone is already landing right behind them isn't something I'd expect to hear on ATC radio.
@lonesparrow8 ай бұрын
JFK is one of the busiest if not the busiest airports in the world. Everyone can't keep circling just because Aeroflot wants to take their time
@sbblmb2 жыл бұрын
Super professional Aeroflot pilots, kudos
@alexandersmith9957 Жыл бұрын
Those ATC controllers deserve some type of promotion for that. Definitely a lot going on at once and they handled it like pros! Most controllers rage and lose their cool but these guys kept it professional all the way. Props to y’all
@mmeovv5 жыл бұрын
Literally no one: JFK airport: *CONESS!*
@jamesblunt0063 жыл бұрын
"Sorry for that" - "That's not your fault sir". 3 times. Are you sure these are Russians and not Canadians?
@oofbruh26073 жыл бұрын
Russians may seem cold but they do genuinely care a lot when it matters to them; I’m sure he was sitting in the cockpit like “it may not be my fault there’s cones but it is my aircraft blocking landings” poor guy wasn’t having a good day
@jamieslaney22942 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@giancarloantonioli89125 жыл бұрын
It is a joy to listen to these professionals. Thanks for sharing.
@Amadea274 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazing and interesting animations which made this video even more fun to watch!
@klamin_original5 жыл бұрын
Something I simply HAVE to mention since everyone is complaining about Chinese pilots all they time: They perfectly understood ATC, they spoke good English and the realized they were coming in a little too high. That’s how Chinese crews work in general, just felt like I needed to say that.
@mkv88985 жыл бұрын
Or anchorage flash backs.
@capturethesky71995 жыл бұрын
Ni Pr Yeah. I agree, but hearing some ATC, it's kinda rare to see any Chinese pilots to speak broken English.
@Mike256545 жыл бұрын
They were unsure whether they could accept 13R or not. Then they just took it according to the standard asian uncertainty culture... And to top it off they then didn't even manage to execute a standard visual approach. But they spoke acceptable english you are right there.
@titou13845 жыл бұрын
Hum... - CES297 Heavy, do you have the airport in sight ? - Uugh... Roger CES297
@endoftheworld295 жыл бұрын
Ni Pr tell that to the chinese pilots who skid off the runway in naia international airport last month. That mishap caused a huge ripple effect. Had an important meeting to attend to in manila but airport/runway is closed due to that. So I wasnt able to attend.
@tobiasr.69035 жыл бұрын
Ground crew: „damn! Forgot the cones!“
@userSchlonsch11 ай бұрын
This video is an absolute classic . No idea how many times I‘ve watched it at this point
@blueflameppn2 жыл бұрын
Those cones are probably laughing their kidneys off realizing how until now they were ignored, ridiculed and belittled, and now the fate of the universe depends on them!
@ChrisC972323 жыл бұрын
Pilot: “… waiting for our RWY assignment” ATCO: “so am I” 😎😅 Then straightaway Pilot 2: “waiting also for RWY assignment” ATCO: “alright, all station standby, we have an issue …” 😤 Seems like these pilots didn’t care listening to the frequency and disregarded that RWY 13L was blocked and that the ATCO was busy resequencing all other AC in order of priority and level order. I felt for that ATCO.
@pocketdynamo57873 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a chain reaction. JFK is such a tight knit net. I can't imagine an airport more stressful for an ATC. Inredible that humans can keep so calm under such constant pressure.
@no_handle_required4 жыл бұрын
how the hell can anybody understand anybody else and planes just don't crash into each other all the time is amazing. ATC is legend.
@SmittySmithsonite5 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is what we call a class A cluster#@!& !! 😂 Nice job by ATC handling that mess! 👍
@autopilotairborne5 жыл бұрын
Best way for the ground staff to take revenge for holding their paychecks ;) Make them hold the planes ! Even the Super ones !! On ATC side.. Its a symphony orchestra ! God give the controllers more eye's and ears.. ! Good coverage.. Well edited.. Felt like a thriller movie.. So many aircrafts so many voices.. An end with a Cresendo, and then again comes the dejavu ! ( we found cones again !! Lol.. )
@AverageGamezzz5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like ATC memes
@AEMoreira815 жыл бұрын
#squawkdirtytome 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@NoobTubez4 жыл бұрын
I love the work you´re doing! This stuff is fun to follow!
@WildlifeObsessed5 жыл бұрын
Congrats to you all for getting around that mess. Cone Management.
@Dumb-Comment4 жыл бұрын
Kennedy wars: Attack of the Cones
@Productions1512 жыл бұрын
I find it fascinating that it takes a crew of airport workers this long to clear some cones.
@shelamaesantos82945 жыл бұрын
By far.. The best and most entertaining I've watched in the ATC chronicles... 😂
@VASAviation5 жыл бұрын
I have many more interesting videos
@shelamaesantos82945 жыл бұрын
@@VASAviation yup.. I've watched almost all of them.. Keep it up.. You're doin a great job and thank you for sharing them..
@maltimoto5 жыл бұрын
The JFK controllers have nerves made of steel. I would get a nervous breakdown.
@BitTheByte4 жыл бұрын
Being an ATC is rated at one of the most stressful jobs, even above a marine door kicker. Take a moment to think about that. Someone who breaks into enemy territory constantly at risk of being shot, exploded, tortured, killed, are generally less stressed than ATCs. Some might not understand so let me put it to you this way. One single mistake or miscommunication and YOU killed possibly hundreds of innocent people, costing MILLIONS of dollars, lost your job, and are looking at felony charges. They have to have a 100% success rate.
@jr132273 жыл бұрын
He had no other option
@michaelrogers13445 жыл бұрын
Great video. Too bad Kennedy Steve wasn’t around for this.
@inshallamiami5 жыл бұрын
Michael Rogers gosh it sounds like him....
@guy8725 жыл бұрын
I can't even imagine all the snarky comments he would be making haha!
@00BillyTorontoBill5 жыл бұрын
He wouldve seen the cones and got tug99 to go pickem up. lol
@cxzmyc5 жыл бұрын
00Billy and yelled at Delta tug to go faster 😂
@00BillyTorontoBill5 жыл бұрын
oops..thats right delta tug...lmao.
@mauricecalvillo84863 жыл бұрын
_"That is a cone."_ _"Dear God..."_ *_"There's more."_* *_"No..."_*
@obad820115 жыл бұрын
Such a critical situation affecting ground controller - TWR and then APP. However, the ATC did a great job and acting rapidly, maintaining safety and expeditious. So proud of you guys! Thanks for sharing!
@VASAviation5 жыл бұрын
Even CTR controllers might get affected by this situation holding traffics from up above so that the Tracon doesn't get congested. Few cones = Mess everywhere.
@obad820115 жыл бұрын
True!
@jcburleigh2 жыл бұрын
"Get yer airplane landin'...FEW CONES ON THE RUNWAY!!"
@Jesusisyhwh4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the scene from"A Bug's Life" when the ants trail gets blocked by a leaf. They can't move until another ant comes and guides the first any around the leaf and back onto the trail.
@lesturner98493 жыл бұрын
Exactly why you triple check personnel and equipment after airfield operations are completed and only then are NOTAMS terminated.
@user-kv9jm4lk4g4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful videos. Thanks
@Teverell5 жыл бұрын
Sounded like Kennedy Steve on Ground. It was a very slightly panicked "He's not on my frequency any more!" but he bounced right back with "The port authority's playing games!" Simply amazing the confusion a few traffic cones can cause when nobody knows they're in the way till a plane's almost on top of them! Great teamwork all round between the various ATCs, though!