AtGames Legends Pinball Micro: First Look and Review!

[@E-Pro73]

It's adorable! I love some of the changes that they made, like a larger internal storage and ports in the back. If I didn't already have a decked out ALP, I would definitely be interested. Great for someone just dipping their toes into vPin or someone with very limited space. As per usual, great video Jon.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Eric, I appreciate your kind feedback! They made a lot of positive changes with this machine as you mention. I can't wait to hook up the Steam Deck to this machine!

[@KenWiggerAnotherAncientGamer]

Thanks for sharing. I use Pinball Arcade now to play on my computer and this looks like it would be so much better and realistic. I used to play pinball all the time back in the 50's and 60's growing up as a kid. I spent a lot of time in bowling alleys and poolhalls playing these cool machines. Thanks so much for sharing this video my friend.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very welcome Ken, thank you for watching! I wound up buying one for my Mom for Christmas last year (she loved mine). She's not able to get around well, but she can sit and play pinball all she wants now. You can also connect a PC/Steam Deck up to it if you want to play from there. I've not personally tried Pinball Arcade but have tried FX3, Visual Pinball X and Future Pinball on both the Steam Deck and PC playing through on the micro (and larger Legends Pinball). If you want/need more info., I've got a lot of info on my website (each with videos): wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#AtGames

[@KenWiggerAnotherAncientGamer]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for the info. by the way I have a bunch of pinball and racing videos I made on my channel if you like stuff like that. Thanks for making this nice video, I'm sure it will be very helpful to people that are looking for something like this. 🙂

[@gdashafe1001]

Awesome review and I am really looking forward to getting mine. I preoreded the Taito skinned one with the deal that included VIBS, board, Gottlieb tables, and discount. I would love a full sized table but live in a 900 sq ft townhouse. I also have a fish tank addiction and a few arcade 1ups. This is perfect for those of us that dwell in hobbit houses. There just isnt space for the full sized. I wish it had a real plunger but, hey. This still beats the pants off of the Arcade 1up pinball machines with more tables, 1080p @ 60 fps, expandability, features, etc. It just doesn't look as pretty.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you so much! Had family visiting earlier, the ALP Micro was a BIG hit. They loved the size of the machine and don't have room for the full-size ALP. Little do they know, I'm keeping my pre-order to get them one for Christmas 👍

[@nerdloftgaming]

It came out much better than I expected! Literally just a micro version of the great ALP. The display of the playfield looks very nice in this size, and the overall package trumps similar micro tables like the Sharpin Mini. Glad to see AtGames listened to the community and put the inputs in the back 👍 Solid video as usual, Jon!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you, much appreciated! I think the Micro turned out great also and yep it's a micro version of the ALP and has all the same features/functionality.

[@SuperNicktendo]

This looks cool. I appreciate the smaller stuff as I don't have a lot of room but still would like the feel of the real thing

[@canadaphil6068]

So pleased we are now getting most of our Atgames "first looks" from you Jon! I have pretty much everything Atgames ever made (sometimes 2 of each!), but this is the first new item that I decided to PASS on... the main reason being that the initial chatter was that it was the same pcb still outputting EDP video for the backglass. However, it now appears that it may be different?.. That looks like an LVDS pin connector in your video?. I am really looking forward to more videos from you on this. Do you have the "new" VIBS yet? I would luv it if you could do a partial teardown in your followups to show the PCB to confirm whether or not it is modified. I honestly feel that if Atgames can get away from that EDP scenario for the backglass connection, it will be a game changer for modders and DIY enthusiasts.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you so much Phil, I always appreciate your feedback and you ask such great questions! I've not currently done a tear-down, but when the VIBS board comes in we might just have to do it in that follow-up video ;) It may be a month before I actually get ahold of that board, no exact timeframe has been provided. I actually placed a pre-order for this machine, wasn't sure if one would be shipped or not. I plan to complete the order as a gift for my nephew for Christmas. I sure hope he doesn't read this comment or I just spoiled it lol

[@canadaphil6068]

@@WagnersTechTalk Hahaha.. I hope your secret is still good Jon. I look forward to your followups. Maybe I will end up getting one of these in the end afterall? LOL

[@johnmosley5402]

I can’t wait to receive mine. I have a full-size VPin with 1300+ tables and full SSF but this is going to be a Christmas surprise for my son so he can have his very own in his room when he doesn’t want to play the larger one. Also great review Jon!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

That sounds awesome John, I'm sure he'll love it! Thank you for your kind words too!

[@TampaTec]

Great review 👍 always full of info.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Sir, I just watched your video this morning - Great Job! I love how you opened it up and took a tour of the internals. I added your review to the ALPu guide here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#More_ALP_Micro_Reviews .

[@GameMaker04]

For coinX gaming, is it possible to make a new top control panel with stick, new buttons ? similar to the way you can add one to the Legends HD system ?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I've not heard of anyone making one for the Micro, not that it's not possible. Just that I've not seen it done yet.

[@Drakey83]

Great review!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Reid!

[@3DSimulant]

One in every room please!👍🤩

[@alevcimen4891]

Can’t wait to get the pinball ….so cute . It’s like the ALUM pinball without the legs. Thanks buddy

[@imnotstupidjustslow9366]

Does anyone know of any replacement panels to replace or cover the backbox and control panel? I don't like all the Legends Pinball logo right in front of your face. It would of been better if the logo was a lot smaller and elsewhere.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I'm personally not aware of anything at this time. You might try etsy, but haven't seen anything myself.

[@crashthevacuum]

Does anyone know what button number the plunger button (the right red button) on this maps to with JoyToKey? I've tried seemingly all the button options on JTK with the standard ALP template and I can't get that button to do anything in OTG mode. Every other button seems to map 1:1 from the standard ALP though.

[@fleejay806]

Love my micro

[@russelljang1874]

All of your videos are just fantastic. Do you know if any of the screens on the Micro can be upgraded to larger displays?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you, I really appreciate it! I'm not aware of any display replacements at the current time. BuyStuffArcades has replacement backboxes for the larger ALP but not aware of any for the Micro.

[@watduhwat]

Great review. My does not have much space for the ALP. This looks like the next best thing. AtGames sent me the confirmation email yesterday. I’m excited for my order to arrive.

[@rogergrant8865]

CPU - Amlogic S922X hexa-core with 4x Arm Cortex A73 cores @ up to 1.8 GHz, 2x Arm Cortex A53 cores @ 1.9 GHz GPU - Arm Mali-G52MP4 @ 846MHz System Memory - 4GB DDR4 RAM WIFI 6 Storage - 64GB OS: Android 9 The above is from the Sharpin mini pinball machine one that includes this computer board. Is the atgame Micro pinball computer board the same as Sharpin or better? The cost for a finish Sharpin pinball machine is a bit more expensive like $500 or so.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There are clearly some differences, RAM for example. However, I've never used the Sharpin so can't compare the two directly. However, AtGames is having a sale for the next two days for the Micro @ $299.99 USD here: www.atgames.us/products/legends-pinball-micro?sca_ref=4359271.G2fhugu87B

[@jeroendenhertog4975]

Can't wait to see this cute pinball being available in Europe!

[@richardfeilden5494]

Nice to see that they've finally worked out that the top of the playfield is *not* the place for the HDMI and USB ports!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

lol, I agree it makes more sense to have those ports on the back.

[@Hughginvaini]

Question for anyone that knows. Do your gottlieb tables have haptics? Mine don’t.

[@DrVernSFC]

I have one on Order because I have intentions of making this a great countercade. Any chance you'll be trying out some USB arcade sticks to see if they work here. I mean, i'd love an ACP for the micro, but that seems unlikely. I tried several controllers on the ALP before i got an ACP and none worked very well, I'm gonna order one of these 360 clone controllers, but I'm looking for something more stable for the countercade setup...any info is appreciated. Keep being awesome!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I've asked about an ACP for the ALPM, added the answer here (bottom): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#Q_A . You could probably use the Legends Gamer Mini as a controller. The only other thing I have similar is somewhere in storage (just looked, couldn't find it). It was an 8-bit Do controller that I bought to review and never did. If I'm able to locate it, I'll give it a whirl. Thank you for watching and your kind comments, you're awesome!

[@pwc9222]

I appreciate this well made walkthrough of the micro. Do you think atgames will make a joystick for this? Or is the form factor too small to accommodate it?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Very welcome, thanks for your kind comments and for watching! If AtGames does make a control panel, it would likely be a stick with perhaps 3 buttons at most. I'm hoping they will consider such an upgrade. If enough people ask for it, more likely to happen.

[@mefaun]

i couldnt get the gottlieb pinball packs to work on the latest firmware. curious if its the same to others?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

My understanding is that there will be an update Dec. 19th for the Gottlieb tables.

[@Trojan0304]

How are the 50 games for a newbie? Can I play if not on Wi-Fi? Subscribed to your channel since has lots of info , thanks

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There are a lot of great tables that come pre-installed, you can download many more too and/or disconnect from WiFi. You also have the option to download the tables to the machine to fully disconnect. Thank you for subscribing, I very much appreciate your support!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You can also find written guides on nearly all AtGames products here: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#AtGames and the upcoming Legends 4KP information here: wagnerstechtalk.com/guides/#AtGames_Legends_4K_Series

[@C_Blurr]

This is the video I WISH we could have had before New Owners Day, and before the latest sale they had on Amazon. I've been interested in the product since it's announcement but I wanted to wait until I saw gameplay and more clips of the product, aside from their quick teaser video. Unfortunately I believe the price is back up to normal MSRP at the time of writing this, but after seeing this I'll definitely be ordering one the next sale they have!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I wish I had been able to get this video completed sooner, but did get to it fairly quickly considering it just arrived mid last week. Hopefully there will be another sale soon. In the last one it was $399, but we never know what items will be on sale until a few days before the sale starts.

[@Trojan0304]

Got unit, no shipping fee. After a few days screen froze. Email customer support that nite. Got help next day & told how to reset . Back playing the 50 games. 😊

[@WagnersTechTalk]

How are you liking it so far?

[@Trojan0304]

@@WagnersTechTalk playing thru the 50 games. Like some more than others. Might buy the Natural History 4 game pack. Recall many years ago playing grandpa pinball, it was big. Micro fits my bonus room, actually home theater room

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Front Line is one of my favorites included on the machine. The Natural History tables are also very good and play them frequently. Happy to hear you're enjoying it!

[@jombeemeanstroke6426]

I'm sorry if I missed it but what controller did you use on Dig Dug and Pac Man and how did you attach it? Thanks as always Mr. Wagner!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Sure, it's the Xbox 360 clone controller mentioned here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#CoinOpsX . I just plugged it in the USB-A (2.0) port.

[@danidavis7912]

Another great video, sir. I can see where this would be a great little machine for folks who don't have the space to devote to a full sized stand up machine. And it's amazing to me, all the features they pack into this box. It is a worthy addition to the AtGames family. The only obvious deduct for me is the lack of a plunger.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Much appreciated, thank you Dani! I would have preferred a plunger myself, but the button works well also. Being a smaller device, I presume the reason for the button is to avoid it getting damaged as it is more likely to get moved around a bit more.

[@danidavis7912]

@@WagnersTechTalk Ok, that makes sense. My thoughts were coming from when the plunger on my ALP machine inexplicably stopped working in the middle of a match. The resultant use of the button on top was a real immersion killer for me. It took a couple weeks to fix, and I think you may have even been instrumental with suggestions, if I'm not mistaken. But having said that, I don't in any way mean to detract from the obvious advantages of having a neat little portable pinball table with all these features! On a side note, the table "Devil Rider" looked great. I don't remember that being available for the ALP??

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Devil Riders is really a fun game, don't recall exactly which Zac pack it's on but love that table.

[@danidavis7912]

@@WagnersTechTalk Ok, now I have to go look. Smile...

[@adamkalb1412]

Impressive Review Buddy

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you so much Adam, I appreciate you my friend!

[@adamkalb1412]

❤️

[@XR1000]

Brilliant review - really comprehensive

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you kindly!

[@dahur]

I wish someone made different graphics/decals for it.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

At some point, I'm sure someone will. It's still relatively new.

[@dahur]

I just got my Micro yesterday...and I like it. One thing that's gotten old fast for me is having to put my name in after each game. Is there a way to disable this.?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

As long as you keep getting high scores on the table(s), you'll be prompted to enter your initials. Of course, most tables (except for Gottlieb) will remember the last initials entered so it's just 3 quick presses on the play button. There isn't an option to disable it, but you'll have to do it much less as you keep playing.

[@dahur]

@@WagnersTechTalk ok thanks. Maybe they'll come up with an update at some point to make this an option.

[@Trojan0304]

Can I add Natural History package of 4 games using Wi-Fi? Does it have enough memory?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Not sure what you've installed currently, but yes it has 16GB of storage so you should be fine.

[@imnotstupidjustslow9366]

On my Legends Micro the (metal bar) between the lower part of the play field and the D-Pad has a 1/4 inch gap. It is short in length. The gap is next to the metal side bar. Is that normal?

[@RVJimD]

Can anyone post the included games? When i click on the link on the website it never loads. Is there an 8 ball table?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I think this is the complete list of all 50: Aerobatics Firefighter Battle Cine Star Deluxe Battle Deluxe Aerobatics Retro Lucky Fruit Battle 2016 House of Diamonds Deluxe Red Show Deluxe Beast Master Time Machine Battle Retro Robot Deluxe Spooky Deluxe Blackbelt Time Machine 2019 Devil Riders Strike Deluxe Universe Deluxe Blackbelt Retro Time Machine Retro Devil Riders 2019 Pool Champion Deluxe Farfalla Deluxe Blackbelt2018 Tropical Devil Riders Retro Caveman Tropical 2019 Wizard Cine Star Universe Zankor Circus Universe Retro Zankor 2017 Circus 2017 Winter Sports Zankor Retro Circus Retro Winter Sports 2018 Bubble Bobble Arkanoid Space Invaders Front Line Devil Riders 2019 Robot Deluxe Rainbow Islands Battle Deluxe

[@RVJimD]

@WagnersTechTalk thank you, not sure what is going on with their website, I tried several different computers and browsers but none worked.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You're welcome, I got this list from AtGames to help you out. There are several links not working on their website but should be fixed next week.

[@RVJimD]

@@WagnersTechTalk one more thing, can I get gotlieb tables? I think they did the 8 ball game I'm after.

[@davidbrigham8319]

I finally downloaded the firmware is on my pinball machine and now I'm getting these numbers flashing on my back board display on the bottom is anyone know what that is.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You can reach AtGames support here: www.atgames.net/arcades/contact if you have some kind of hardware issue.

[@catherinevillain2464]

Hi, is there a multiplayer mode on the mini pinball ?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There is in the sense that up to 4 people can play locally.

[@sinizin]

Looks pretty cool. Very tempted.

[@davidbrigham8319]

Great videos 👍👍 I just put together my new legend micro pinball. When I booted it up the playing screen lite up but the back screen didn't. So I opened the back jiggled it and it worked. So I replugged it back in again same thing so I jiggled it again. Has anyone else have this issue.. but it's working now. should I be concerned.thanks Dave 😊👍👍.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you! Definitely want to make sure it has a stable connection. I would recommend powering it off, then remove the cables and re-seat them. Might be that one is just barely connected. If you don't have to jiggle the connections again, you're good. If you do, I'd contact AtGames Customer Service here: www.atgames.net/arcades/contact . That way, if there is an issue, you can get it squared away while it's under warranty.

[@davidbrigham8319]

Thanks that worked 👍👌has anyone ever said that there is a smell from it 🤔 thanks.😊👍

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@davidbrigham8319 Very welcome, could be some smell to it. It will subside. I don't notice any odor from mine.

[@davidbrigham8319]

I am thinking that too.i read a few reviews of the same issue.😊👍.

[@davidbrigham8319]

Well I found out from atgames about the smell they said it's from the tape they use . They all have a smell but some maybe stronger smelling but will go away and is NOT TOXIC. They suggested putting in scented dryer sheets inside it .

[@davidbrigham8319]

Is there anyone that knows how to set up the Legends ID or to register it the only thing I did was set up Wi-Fi. I keep putting in my email and it keeps telling me it's wrong.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You'll first need to setup your ArcadeNet account, if you haven't already here: www.atgames.net/arcadenet . There is a free and paid version, Free will let you upload your scores, etc. to the leaderboard. You can learn more from the link above. Then, once the account is created, you can login on the machine. Be sure to enter the correct upper/lowercase characters, numbers, symbols, etc. in your password.

[@mattcrosby5128]

Does this have online features as in voice chat and online play

[@JakeSweeper]

It's what the Acrade 1up pinball tables should have been. The only initial downside is the lack of legs, but I'm told there's an aftermarket set used for Stern machines that work with the Micro if you want to go in that direction. I'm honestly tempted to get it, even though I have an APL already, so I can have the APL in the soon to be built rec room and the Micro for my bedroom.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Actually, you can reserve legs for the ALPu here: www.atgames.us/products/leg-set-for-legends-pinball . I have the aftermarket legs and recommend these from AtGames. The aftermarket legs cover the screw holes that allow accessing the internals of the machine. If you want to remove the side bars, you'll have to remove the two front legs. With these from AtGames, it appears to be just like the ones that ship on the ALP, just black in color.

[@JakeSweeper]

Wagner's TechTalk And these work on the Micro?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I don't have this set (yet), but it says so under the Product Features.

[@alexander2685]

How would i connect a clone xbox controller to this pinball machine?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You can connect it over USB to the USB 2.0 port on the back of the machine. Bluetooth should also work (I've only tried the wired controller myself).

[@alexander2685]

@@WagnersTechTalk Your awesome thank you I could not find a video but yours to help me thank you sooo much.😃😁👍💯

[@jeffbaldasare5733]

How did you hook up the Xbox controller?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Just plugged it into the USB 2.0 port

[@scottboehmer1975]

Nice preview video. I was fortunate enough to pick up an extremely cheap Legends pinball but would still like to get a Micro machine at some point. It seems like a great bartop and semi portable option. But the standard price really is too much for what this offers.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I appreciate your feedback Scott! Watch for those sales, if interested. They had one last week and this machine was $399 (+shipping).

[@gabrieltroisgros324]

Is it running android or windows? Do you have idea of the specs of the computer inside ? Is it mini pc or android box ?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Linux, rk3399 CPU and more here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#Specifications

[@gabrieltroisgros324]

@@WagnersTechTalk thx for the prompt reply ! Linux ? Interesting

[@bayougaming46]

Cool! Great video!

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you!

[@wolfunplugged]

thanks for this very fine and descriptive video, man! this mini version could be something for me. I like it. does it also simulate movements and vibrations btw? bummer that it's not yet available...

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Wolf, happy that you've enjoyed it my friend! Yes, it does provide haptic feedback. That is, there are small vibration speakers that vibrate to simulate the feel of bumpers, flippers, etc.

[@john2914]

Well, I have had mine for a week now. The tables it has are not too good. It is a fun toy for a short time.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Sorry to hear you say that. Have you tried Front Line, Space Invaders, Arkanoid, Bubble Bobble, BlackBelt 2018, Devil Riders 2019, House of Diamonds Deluxe, Pool Champion Deluxe, Spooky Deluxe? To add an awesome pack (extra $), Natural History is fun love Amazonia and The Last Ice Age the most ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmeldHxto7ycg8k ) as well as Dr. Seuss ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/enTReX6qgdieq8k ). Just some of my favorites incase you hadn't tried any of them yet. If you have and still not excited, sorry I'm no help. I've spent countless hours playing all of the above.

[@john2914]

@@WagnersTechTalk I have played all the tables it came with. They were nice. I have not yet learned how to load other tables available online. I don't think I will buy any packs from at games, I will try getting games from other sources if I can. It is a good toy. I don't see playing with it overly much, but it has been ok.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@john2914 You can always connect a PC or Steam Deck and play Pinball FX3 or thousands of community-developed Visual Pinball X (VPX) or Future Pinball tables. Here's a guide to help with using a Steam Deck: wagnerstechtalk.com/sd-alp . You can also install CoinOpsX to play Arcade games (though, use an xbox controller instead of the dpad with it if you do), guide here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-coinopsxv/ . Hopefully some of this will help you get the most out of your machine.

[@johnny58435]

Just wondering, Does this pinball have haptic feedback, rumble or Vibration on the buttons like the big version pinball? Can you do video comparison between the big table with small one?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, it has haptic feedback (vibration) just like it does on the larger machine. Every option that is available on the larger machine exists on the micro with one minor exception, it uses a button instead of a plunger for launching the ball. That's about it.

[@paspooner]

Another great quality video! Thank you for the time and effort you put into producing the videos and guides, Jon! Regarding the button for the plunger, how was that experience for skill shots? Does it always pull the plunger back to do a max launch?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you so much Pete! The plunger moves down as soon as you start pushing and it's launched when released. So, you can use it for skill shots. Just that you have to time it just right during ball launch. With a plunger, you can adjust before you release but not with the button. Hope that all makes sense :)

[@RenaissanceRoadTrips]

Any sense on cost? Also, seeing the steam deck connected would be interesting. Could it play pinball arcade/pinball fx3 games?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Yes, with the VIBS board installed in the backglass you would be able to hook a PC/Steam Deck up to it. Got a video here that demonstrates the Steam Deck connected to the full-size ALP but it would be the exact same thing on the Micro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIHUlaCepd6mZ68 . The price on the Micro is $449, however AtGames often has sales where it can be ordered cheaper: www.atgames.us/products/legends-pinball-micro . They just had a sale last week, the next one will likely be in Feb.

[@jskjellman]

Excellent review. One question, is the audio the same quality as the ALP? I ask only because those speakers look so tiny.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The audio is decent and can get pretty loud, especially when the haptics a set to high (I tried set it that way briefly for one portion of this video, then took it down to low as it was too loud for me). The speakers aren't large, but the sound quality is pretty good.

[@SavedByZero]

Nicely done... as always! This unit does look better than I expected but I agree that the price is a bit of a concern. Any word on whether AtGames will make an arcade panel as upgrade option?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Thank you Mark, I appreciate your kind feedback Sir! I've honestly not heard anything regarding an arcade panel option for it. Going to collect questions from the comments here and add them to the Q&A section and try to get answers. I'll ask.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I've asked about an ACP for the ALPM, added the answer here (bottom): wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#Q_A

[@SavedByZero]

@@WagnersTechTalk So basically it's a maybe if there is enough interest. I think having the arcade panel included as part of the launch would have made the Micro more appealing.

[@jonathanhall6815]

Want one 😊

[@jimharper5710]

Likely not the case, but it would be great if this could work as a controller for the Switch (unlike it's bigger brother - which is not natively compatible). Using the pinball buttons to control Switch-based pinball games like FX3, etc. would be fantastic for a portable unit such as this.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Not sure about the switch, but I've connected the (larger) ALP to a Steam Deck and it worked great (video here, if interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIHUlaCepd6mZ68 ). I hope to show the same working on this machine with the new VIBS board so that the backglass will work with the Steam Deck (or PC) also.

[@Handheld_TECH]

Oh cool :)

[@paulpolizzi3421]

looks good how much?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

$449 + $50 s/h, though sometimes they'll be on sale for $399 (they were last week).

[@AnimeTom518]

I put in my deposit for a pre-order during one of their sales. Here's hoping they release an arcade control panel for it down the road.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I personally would love to see one also 😎👍

[@TheCleveland1987]

have u figuerd out if u can hook a pc up to it to play pinball fx3 and maybe some top down shoot em ups? im really thinking about getting this in like 3 weeks if i can do all that

[@WagnersTechTalk]

When the new VIBS board arrives, I'll be able to hook a PC/Steam Deck up to it easily via HDMI+OTG. I've done this with the ALP (video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIHUlaCepd6mZ68 ) and the same will work here. However, I prefer to wait until I can show both the playfield and the backglass all working. As it ships, you can play FX3 but only using the playfield.

[@markchatt4197]

So do we have to repurchase everything again or will be able to transfer our purchases from our bigger pinball machine?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Should have to re-purchase anything, no. But the Gottlieb tables aren't yet available on the Micro, it will come in Dec. All game packs are now universal, so if you're playing a pack one one machine, you can't play it on the other until you exit the game. Hope that makes sense.

[@markchatt4197]

Yes it does make sense, THANK YOU!!

[@kraemerkraem6978]

Can you hook up a Nintendo switch to it through the hdmi like the bigger version? That way you can play switch pinball games on it

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Anything you can do on the larger ALP, you can do here also. Switch, PC, Steam Deck, etc. The VIBS board, for the backglass will be available next month.

[@kraemerkraem6978]

Awesome when it goes on sale I’m grabbing one.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

You can find the latest news and upcoming sales here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news/#November_Updates , be sure to check out the Winer Sale which is coming up in 4 days.

[@sambagogo777]

What's the image quality like? For instance, if I'm playing Zaccaria Pinball via Steam on my PC then the game has a graphics settings menu so does this have that too? It appears not from your video. I'm asking because 1080p looks acceptable only when I apply a high level of anti-aliasing in the graphics settings so to smooth out any 'jaggies'. If, for example, there is noticeable stair-stepping aka jaggies on the flippers due to low quality or non-existent anti-aliasing then that'll be a deal-breaker for me.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There isn't a setting for adjusting the graphics, but I personally see no need for it as the 'jaggies' or pixelization is not an issue. The images look great on the machine. Don't take my word for it though. On many of my guides when I find other reviews of a product, I also add them to my written guides here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#More_ALP_Micro_Reviews . Check them out, but do let me know if you think otherwise.

[@ArinoSeb_Gccx_QC]

how is the bottom of the unit. does it have feets or succsion cups, or is it direct mdf. I would be great to know if you can put it directly on a counter, table or desk without scratching the surface.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Hi Sebastien, there are rubber pads on each edge. I added a picture at the bottom of this section to demonstrate: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#Assembly

[@wademissimer6610]

@@WagnersTechTalk Any suggestions on what would be an inexpensive mounting object? I'm interested in buying one, but don't really have anything available to stand it on. What height surface is needed?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@wademissimer6610 Good question, I'm going to be trying some options. At present, I don't have much other than just one of the items I ordered to try which is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#Accessories . I'm also trying to hunt some legs that will fit it at a decent height. If I locate anything, I'll be adding them to the guide.

[@wademissimer6610]

@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks so much for the response! To drill into this a bit more.... I'm an longtime pinball fan... played in college and then had a Williams Grand Lizard machine for about 25 years. I liked the physical aspect of playing these OG machines... pushing and nudging the machine while playing. Is that possible with these smaller units? When mounted on a small table/stand - will it work? Also, Overall: How does the playing compare: OG Pinball machine vs Legends Pinball vs Legends Pinball Mini?

[@WagnersTechTalk]

@@wademissimer6610 Hi Wade, yes you can push/nudge the machine and the ball will react. It's a close approximation to a real machine, not 100% though. The nice thing is, it's not dedicated to a single table. This machine has 50 built in, I think there are over 144 available. Some unique IP's coming out in Dec. (Dr. Seuss).

[@laurent8789]

Is there a list somewhere of the 50 tables included ? Any possibility to play the VPX tables with this LPM ? Thanks !

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Hi Lau, yes I just added the game list this morning to the guide in the Resources section here: wagnerstechtalk.com/alpmicro/#Resources . Thanks for catching that! There is a new VIBS board that will be available soon that will allow using the backglass for use with VPX, at present you would only be able to use the playfield with a PC/Steam Deck connected. Once I'm able to show it with the VIBS board installed, I plan to show off VPX, Future Pinball and FX3 running on the micro.

[@laurent8789]

@@WagnersTechTalk Great ! Thanks !

[@tango2895]

I'm interested to get this for someone in my family for Christmas but the price to me was a little too high for it I have the full size version and it is almost close to what I paid for the full size pinball machine from at games correct me if I'm wrong but I could have not heard correctly from one of the KZbin content creators I follow actually did a breakdown and talked about this new Mini pinball machine and I could have sworn he said it was about $400 to $500

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The retail price is $449 ( www.atgames.us/products/legends-pinball-micro ). However, AtGames has sales throughout the year where certain products may be found cheaper. They typically have them in Feb and Sept, but they had one last week also. The price for the Micro was $399 during their Oct. sale: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news/#October_Sale_Events

[@ien2023]

I thought we're suppose to get this thing this october?? It's small but powerful and can do alot.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Last I heard it was Dec., but I could be wrong.

[@BuzzaB77]

50 included tables??? I paid £900 / $1100 for the full size in the UK and we get 22 mostly bad gottlieb!!! I feel double ripped off

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Both machines are great, but I agree with you the Gottlieb tables are not the best. Definitely want to look at adding Zaccaria, Natural History, TAITO or Dr. Seuss tables. Here are some of the packs that will make what you have a lot better: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-gaming/

[@BuzzaB77]

@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the recommendations. I already have a steam deck so I'm looking at your vid on getting that working for now I can't afford to spend more on the table! good job they didn't close the system entirely eh!

[@CC-fp4op]

Does your machine have a hissing sound from the speakers? I find this annoying and audible

[@WagnersTechTalk]

When you first launch a table, you may hear some slight hissing until the table is loaded. The same on the larger ALP.

[@CC-fp4op]

@@WagnersTechTalk that’s annoying. Hissing too in game. I thought would be better quality. The hissing is constant on lower volumes or in game. Most noticeable on games with less Music.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

With my machine, it's only audible when loading a table. Once loaded, I don't hear it. You may want to check with AtGames support if yours is that bad, may be something else going on.

[@mikethinks]

The price is insane IMHO. I made a home built machine a few years ago out of an old PC with a Radeon 480, 24 and 19 inch monitors and some cheap MDF shelves, and even my machine has a bump/tilt sensor in it....not a stupid button. the size of this thing seems just way too small to me. Now sure not everyone can manage to cut and join wood into a passable pinball machine shape, but you can get a prefab kit that holds a 24" monitor and small backglass monitor for about $99.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

Appreciate your feedback Mike! I'll be ordering another one as a gift myself, I like it and want to share it with Sister's family for Christmas. Yeah, I started building a VPin myself several years back I'll just say it didn't go as smoothly as your build. I had a 48" LCD (used) display that died while building it. Got frustrated and decided to wait for a commercial option. The ALP came at a perfect time for me. Love the ALP and this little dude too. Building one yourself can be fun, but takes a lot of know-how and more importantly time to do it. Being able to easily plug up a PC/Steam Deck to these machines is a big selling point, in my opinion. It's plug and play, not limited to only those tables that AtGames provides.

[@mikethinks]

@@WagnersTechTalk I hear you there. I had more time than money when I built mine :)

[@miniskunk]

It is much larger than I thought it would be. This game machine needs legs. It doesn't look tall enough to be on the floor and too big to put on a table. I am regretting my non-refundable preorder now.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

It does have rubber pads under each edge so it won't scratch up a table and there are mounts for legs. I ordered a small table a few nights ago to see how well it fits. I will be trying other options as well.

[@digitalproperties]

AtGames keeps building these products with incomprehensible component sizes. WHY is the backglass monitor so INSANELY small? Not just a little bit too small.. INSANELY too small. Why not add proper buttons near the lockbar because you KNOW people will be installing MAME? WHY have that tacky top marquee on the top that says "Legends Pinball Micro". All logical aesthetics are tossed out the window for what I assume is very sad cost saving measures.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

There aren't many (if any) companies that make fully digital LCD backboxes in this form-factor on a virtual pin that allows PC/OTG connectivity. This is a smaller machine, if you want a larger machine then the Legends Pinball may be a better choicde. The reason for the size of the display on this machine is it has to have room to mount the speakers. They "might" have been able to go up an inch on the size of the backbox display, but that's about it. In terms of having a joystick and buttons on the apron for arcade gaming, I'm totally with you on that one. I'm spoiled with the full-size ALP and the ACP and having that option on the micro makes sense. However, every component they add has a cost which has to be passed on to the consumer. If adding those features adds another $200 to the price, then they made the right decisions (IMO). No-one would buy a mini pinball for $7-800 when the full-size ALP can be purchased around that price range. All-in-all, It's an impressive machine and I did wind up buying one as a Christmas gift since this video also.

[@digitalproperties]

@@WagnersTechTalk Unfortunately AtGames has the same bizarre layout with their original Legends Pinball. Wasted space and brutal branding aesthetics with the top fixed marquee and a logo where a DMD should be. They have SUCH potential and showed great initiative releasing these products and having them become so popular during the pandemic era... BUT their design flaws is why the secondary modding market on them is so unprecedented. I had no desire to build a custom cabinet. I was hoping Legends Pinball would be the low-cost virtual pinball I had wanted for nearly a decade. We all love your videos, by the way. You are a true asset to the community.

[@tommyg957]

It’s so tiny, compared to the full size.

[@mr.bigstuff2419]

They don't make a full size. That is what everyone has complaining about. You must mean the 3/4 size.

[@rickowen8187]

now address AT games horrible customer service. Oh wait, you won't because they pay you

[@ForReal104]

Making a smaller version does not make much sense to me. So many more people would buy a full size machine.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

They already have a larger machine called the Legends Pinball, it was released about 2 years ago. Here's a guide on that machine if interested: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp

[@badcommentbot8349]

Space

[@joeyjojojunior4886]

As much as I want to like AtGames and their products I just find their interfaces/navigation and customer service to be terrible.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I appreciate your feedback JJJJ! The UI could use a bit of improvements, I don't disagree. Customer service has definitely improved over the past year and they have extended their warranty period 30->90 days which is also positive. They also now provide on-line chat with an agent. I think they are making positive changes in this area.

[@MobileDecay]

$449.99 That is what everyone really wants to know. Now you can leave because it costs too much.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

$349 during the winter sale wagnerstechtalk.com/al-news/#Winter_Sale

[@MobileDecay]

@@WagnersTechTalk Still too much.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

I think it's worth it, try pricing a real pinball machine. $5k or more. Even most vpins start around $8-900 and may not even have a full digital backglass.

[@MobileDecay]

@@WagnersTechTalk Yeah but you're comparing the most expensive full size real table to this. You can get one from Sharpin for under $200.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

The Sharpin Switch-PC is $397 USB (or 399,00 euros) www.digital-pinball.com/00/sharpin-switch and requires a switch or PC (another $2-400) to use it. The ALP Micro requires nothing else and has 50 built-in tables, digital backglass, haptics, accelerometer and can be connected via HDMI to a PC for OTG-based gaming (Pinball FX, VPX and Future Pinball). The Sharpin comparison is not really accurate. Even the low-end Sharpin Mini V3 is a kit and requires a an Android tablet to use it, no tables included all have to be licensed from whatever pinball app. you decide to use in Android, no backglass, etc. Totally different type of products.

[@nickyscarfo1]

What junk ! They should have made a full virtual pinball.

[@WagnersTechTalk]

lol, they did about 2 years ago: wagnerstechtalk.com/alp . In this video, you'll see them both side-by-side at 03:38