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@theboysonly87505 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Sameer I love your excitement about 3D printers and your positive outlook and hope for the future. I notice you think Christianity is in the same as Islam, that could not be farther from the truth. The Christian faith is not a religion. Religion is men trying to please God trough good works. The Christian faith acknowledges that there is nothing of ourselves that we can do for God . Salvation is a free gift there is nothing you need to do. The change is inward and organic through you accepting The Lord Jesus as your savior. We are tripartite beings with a body, a soul, and spirit. Our body is our physical self. The soul is the mind, emotion, and will. The spirit is the conscience, intuition and the ability to fellowship with God. God became a man to win to save your soul. He lived a perfect life on the earth 33.5 years and was crucified died and God resurrected Him from the dead. He then became the life giving Spirit that gives life to our spirit. He lives in us, in that third part I mentioned, to organically impart himself into us. This is the only way you can love your enemy. This is the only way you can turn the other cheek. The Bible calls us children of God. In us there lives the hope of glory. I will pray for you that you may come to the know Christ. May God who knit you in your mother’s womb and knows you by name open the eyes of your understanding in Christ Jesus our Lord that you may see and repent unto salvation. Soften your heart and believe in Him who’s name is above every name The Lord Jesus Christ. Amen 🙏
@villainousssb5335 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Sameer Great to see you got the copy ok 👍
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
I wish you talked about philosophy more. Also, theists fail to understand that a religion is not a prerequisite for morality.
@andys30355 жыл бұрын
@@theboysonly8750 I'm Christian and I don't think anything like you said is going to change his mind. Let your kindness, love and peace speak to the hope in Christ you have. In other words, preach the Gospel and when necessary, use words.
@theboysonly87505 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Ibrahim hello to you and what I say to Abdullah I extend to you also. Blessings for you only because my God loves you and only rejoices in your salvation.❤️
@AbigailRoseify5 жыл бұрын
What a great discussion. Abdullah, you're so respectful when you disagree, and it makes me respect you. Thanks so much for hosting
@nicholasalexanderhenry14115 жыл бұрын
Great debate Abdullah but the fact remains that evolution cannot prove where the matter comes from henceforth it's there believe. Making it a religion.
@MichaTheLight Жыл бұрын
I'am Agnostic I believe that there is smth like holy spirit/Brahman I also guess that a historical Jesus existed. But I don't believe into a personal watcher God. But the point isn't what you believe or not - it's about respect and reason smth most Muslims don't have.
@ivanr45545 жыл бұрын
I from another religion, and i start study christianity and bible 18 year ago... And Jesus real
@thepsalms28065 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ngangamchongloi69845 жыл бұрын
Amen
@swissapologetics5 жыл бұрын
@Akon Ali Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (ﷺ) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (ﷺ) and abuse him. *So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there.* When the morning came, the Prophet (ﷺ) was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up. He sat before the Prophet (ﷺ) and said: Messenger of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon *the Prophet (ﷺ) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.* Grade: *Sahih* (Al-Albani) صحيح (الألباني)حكم : Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4361In-book reference : Book 40, Hadith 11English translation : Book 39, Hadith 4348 Report Error | Share Narrated Ibn 'Umar: *Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."* Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 25In-book reference : Book 2, Hadith 18USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 1, Book 2, Hadith 25 (deprecated numbering scheme) *Quran 9,29* Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. *Quran 9,30* The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? *Quran 98,6* Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures. It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said: *"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"* Grade: *Sahih* (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 4061In-book reference : Book 37, Hadith 96English translation : Vol. 5, Book 37, Hadith 4066 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Verse:--"You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind." means, the best of peoples for the people, as you *bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.* USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 6, Book 60, Hadith 80Arabic reference : Book 65, Hadith 4557 🤢🤮
@mettakaruna58705 жыл бұрын
@ivan, what do you mean that jesus is real ?
@sukarsalam19825 жыл бұрын
@@ngangamchongloi6984 manipur dei ro?
@everlastthomas50065 жыл бұрын
Watched it, CP is great. Nice debate. You had great questions.
@NhwNews5 жыл бұрын
Good to see AS and CP in conversation. Because AS respresents atheists and CP represents Christians, they speak for each camp in a civilised way. Well done guys, love you both.
@natasyaadammalik91565 жыл бұрын
mengarut saja kamu, semua yang kamu sampaikan adalah tersasar saja
@SMA131215 жыл бұрын
Abdullah Sameer, this was a great discussion with Christian Prince 10/10 😁 , and I believe that this shouldn't be the last one, you and him should do more videos together
@glen64945 жыл бұрын
CP has interesting perspectives different from typical debate. Thanks for posting this interesting discussion.
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Jay Seidler different perspective? Same old theists arguments: a watchmaker argument, an argument from the personal experience , the first cause argument, and of course “it’s just a theory “ argument!
@HarrisSultanAtheist5 жыл бұрын
Smidlee lol, believing a virgin woman got knocked up with god semen is not stupid but asking for evidence is stupidity? #Theistlogic
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Smidlee not at all! Atheist questions the existence of God, looking for evidence using the brain with its cognitive abilities to perceive the world around him. The brain itself evolved to believe in a higher power because it helped a primitive man to survive. That’s why the debate about God will never end! Calling it stupid isn’t helping to win the God argument!
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Smidlee Christopher Hitchens:”what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence “.
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Smidlee well... it’s impossible to prove anything to the theist until he is willing to reconsider the reasons for his beliefs, challenge his cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias.
@TheJo2015 жыл бұрын
I love Both Christian Prince and Abdullah Samir for doing something like This.l believe this kinda stuff should happen more often.
@flame14794 жыл бұрын
samuel russell cp is busted by Farid 😂😂😂
@flame14794 жыл бұрын
@Robert Vaughn his channel's name is farid responds check it
@Richard-vz8zu4 жыл бұрын
@@flame1479 and he busted farid again 😂😂😂 farid didn't give proper references.
@soldierforgod92264 жыл бұрын
@@flame1479 this did not aged well oof.
@soldierforgod92264 жыл бұрын
@Robert Vaughn Have you seen farid embarrassing him self?
@Bankelal_Modi4205 жыл бұрын
*CP IS WISE MAN* #Respect from India
@Answeringug15 жыл бұрын
Ghazwat-e Hind is coming. Cross and cow-worshippers will be destroyed.
@Bankelal_Modi4205 жыл бұрын
#PKMKB 😆
@davecks30425 жыл бұрын
CP and AS are having dialogue in a very friendly and civil manner. I used to be like AS when I was a Hindu debating my Christian friend for many years . But having to read the bible myself and applying to daily life as much as I can does make sense . Later when I became Christian myself , it was then I experienced Christ . It is something that you have to be there for you to experience. It cannot be explain by any logics. It is like going on a roller coaster. You can only feel the ride and the excitement when you ride it by yourself and not by listening someone ‘s experience. The experience of having relationship with Christ is inexplicable until you personally feel it. That is why it is difficult for a true Christian to come out of Christianity. I am not talking about Sunday Christians . Cheers .
@davecks30425 жыл бұрын
Hellbinder Next brain washing is you are indoctrinated by some other people . That is one way transfer of information from one party to another . I disagree with you that I am brain washed . I read for myself and analyze. Can I make the claim similar to that what you said . You have been brainwashed by the atheists or Islam that you are having imagination of not seeing God . It takes two .
@obediteviaeveritatisetvitae5 жыл бұрын
Chandran kartar singh 👍🏻 Very happy for you 😊
@guardianangel12435 жыл бұрын
Well said👍
@Alisha-br9sr5 жыл бұрын
Yes very true. Happen to me too, a personal encounter with Jesus!
@globeagentronburgundy97475 жыл бұрын
@@davecks3042 There are Christian priests that leave their jobs because they fall out of faith, how do you explain that happening if they had an actual relationship with God at any point? If they didn't get that after decades of praying and preaching, why not? There is something like 16 million Mormons that claim to talk with God directly, get replies to their prayers and they say Joseph Smith was a prophet. Do you think they are correct also? Are you claiming your prayers are answered, you hear voices in your head?
@johnrevour39775 жыл бұрын
It was great to listen to the live debate , thanks for uploading it ,. as a christian , i have learnt a lot of what is written in islamic books from you and Christian Prince . thanks again
@ChingChengHanji_5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how you go to enemies of Islam to learn about Islam. So next time you wanna learn Chemistry you should go to a Chef. And if I'm interested in Christianity I'm gonna go to the Jews.
@unam99315 жыл бұрын
@@ChingChengHanji_ you can go to messianic Jews there are thousands of then in Israel
@takiyaazrin75622 жыл бұрын
Christians are obsessed reading Quran and Hadith. Muslims dont even bother
@richardsmith82344 жыл бұрын
If only all debates could be as respectful as this one.
@ranferchristian80505 жыл бұрын
Christian Prince is blessed, he has brought thousands of Muslims to the TRUTH. His wisdom is beyond imagination.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ranferchristian80505 жыл бұрын
@exodus21v20 Okay my friend you came from a dirt, I came from God. Okay so you deal with it.
@ranferchristian80505 жыл бұрын
@exodus21v20 All your (so called) contradictions are answered. Go & check yourself. Be a gentleman. Today we are here to discuss about Atheism. So, don't change the topic be a man. Now answer me. 01. From where all these matters came to existence? who gave power to explode matters? 02. Can you give me one observable evidence of a change of kinds?
@carolina23785 жыл бұрын
@@ranferchristian8050 : Bees will go to the flowers.. Flies will go to rubbish... Stay blessed..gbu..
@natasyaadammalik91565 жыл бұрын
banyak telah dibuktikan kebenaran peristiwa yang disebutkan dalam al quran, jangan kamu cuba mengutip ngutip ayat ayat yang kamu tersasar
@elmohuaerte60825 жыл бұрын
@@natasyaadammalik9156 what are you talking about
@TheRedrusso5 жыл бұрын
I respect you brother Sameer, but what you did was not nice. CP treated you with outmost respect. May Jesus open your heart and bring peace and love in your life.
@jirushimusic51355 ай бұрын
How was it not nice? He was very respectful. Having a different opinion is not mean. He did not grow up Christian.
@jason986625 жыл бұрын
Love Christian Prince
@carolina23785 жыл бұрын
With true love... Not fake love..❤😉
@jason986625 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@mohamedkamaludeen34925 жыл бұрын
Hate Christian price, because he misleading the innocent to hell
@mohamedkamaludeen34925 жыл бұрын
@Jeff BoyBecause Jesus bowed, face fell down worshipped, prayed, fasting for forty days for Allah. But hell prince & other christian praying to Jesus pbuh.
@mohamedkamaludeen34925 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Boy Allah is creator Jesus is in creations, Allah creator of heaven and earth Jesus didn't create any thing Even mosquito wings. Who was Jesus pbuh ? What was his mission ? Today, there's number of religion exist in our earth. But only Islam accepted by Allah & other religions are rejected by Allah. You should know about, What is Islam ? The word Islam means voluntary “ Submission” or “Surrender” to the Will of God. It derives from the root word “salam,” meaning peace. So All the Allah prophets Adam, Noah, Enoch, Abraham Moses Jesus & prophet Muhammad were muslim who submitted their will to God Allah. These prophets mission was monotheism , call all the mankind to one God Allah with out any partner or associate. Judaism and Christianity are Man Made cult, because Abraham nor Jew nor christian He was humbled muslim, submitted his will to God Allah. If check the Christinity back ground. you will find the empty vaccum. Paul rose the Christinity with out any foundation. Is it Jesus founder of Christinity ? The answer is no Jesus pbuh built any church on his life time ? The answer is no. Saint Mary’s, she was a Christian? The answer is no. So, For Thier christian & Jews eternal life, & salvation Islam only the way. Other all astray.
@peterparker17385 жыл бұрын
It was very refreshing listening to you and CP. Though you may have different viewpoints... it was very very refreshing to hear 2 SMART people talking respectful and with good arguments. Usually CP is talking with ... "not so smart" ... people. Thank you for the upload!
@sasquatchmodchris73643 жыл бұрын
Two smart people it's a cert this creationist is not smart
@peterparker17383 жыл бұрын
@@sasquatchmodchris7364 proof?
@takiyaazrin75622 жыл бұрын
@@peterparker1738 Christians are obsessed reading Quran and Hadith. Muslims dont even bother
@PopoolaTemidayo5 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed! Abdullah and CP are amazing. I love Abdullah patience and Christian Prince analysis.
@fareerforsuk66095 жыл бұрын
Not being biased. CP showed great wisdom he answered your planned questions impressively. He respected you as he knew you are just started.
@HarrisSultanAtheist5 жыл бұрын
Fareer Forsuk he did? He BS at the first question so badly that I didn’t even watch the rest. He corroborated his biblical verse with a made up scientific claim that water was present at the time of the formation of earth! You call this great wisdom?
@fareerforsuk66095 жыл бұрын
@@HarrisSultanAtheist Harris please expand the view a little bit. Listen how CP pointed it when he asked sameer about his java. Do you expect CP will elaborate the million years time span? Be honest.
@HarrisSultanAtheist5 жыл бұрын
Fareer Forsuk if that’s the excuse you are going to use then we can also accept Quran’s embryo verse. Allah was only briefly telling you about the embryology process! Why don’t you apply the same method on that?
@fareerforsuk66095 жыл бұрын
@@HarrisSultanAtheist Please do not mix the context with potatos. That embryology thing is claimed as science isnt it? Did CP ever mention the creation scienctific?
@taiwozeez5 жыл бұрын
CP has many flaws in his argument that can easily be refute, he's ignorant concerning science and even logic.
@behradataei64795 жыл бұрын
Very interesting conversation.cp knowladge is amazing
@reubenemmanuel32875 жыл бұрын
CP has a great mind. His arguments are amazing
@whories72jannah465 жыл бұрын
Really ! He said, when earth was formed, it was covered with water !!
@gregoriusdamaiputra6135 жыл бұрын
@@whories72jannah46 it was, do you know Pangaea? One continent and all big single ocean
@whories72jannah465 жыл бұрын
@@gregoriusdamaiputra613 The point is that when a planet is formed, it is extreme hot and contains just molten iron or lava
@mikhail45275 жыл бұрын
@@whories72jannah46 were you there to Witness that ?
@whories72jannah465 жыл бұрын
@@mikhail4527 Are you a kindergarten kid ? 1) Science has theoretically explained that planets are Superhot when formed. 2) Scientists have observed formation of planets in other galaxies through Hubble telescope.
@Basaljet5 жыл бұрын
But Christianity is not based on a book, it is based on a relationship with the Risen Christ. That is why we have sacraments. The book is the colour supplement.
@tjq78885 жыл бұрын
Amen
@ottooctavius5855 жыл бұрын
Not true its based on scripture that reveals God and Christ...otherwise you can make up whatever you want about them
@Basaljet5 жыл бұрын
Lee C it is based on the tradition of the church to which scripture works as a constraint. Scripture is itself is the product of the church’s tradition and not least in the formulation of the canon.
@liraxiarra40145 жыл бұрын
@@Basaljet that is the reason why the bible especially in Mark 7:7 admonish that we should NOT rely on traditions because they are SIMPLY MAN MADE.
@Basaljet5 жыл бұрын
yhaw1 gaming damaso tell that to st paul 1cor11v23 & 15v3
@JosipM3335 жыл бұрын
CP is so intelligent!
@javageek1235 жыл бұрын
I watched this video more because of these two personalities. both are interesting to watch in their own private channels. but bringing them together and having a decent discourse is really heart warming. I'm listening to this video like a cat near the hearth. enjoying the warmth and oblivious of people.
@bygrace47755 жыл бұрын
God wants us to befriend one another, different opinions, different journeys 😊📖🙏
@mohammedjamil22775 жыл бұрын
@@bygrace4775 yes I agree we should respect one anothers opinions and thoughts. I myself believe in a creator of our universe including the heavens and the earth. There is far too much order complexity design and intelligence in the make up of it for there not to be.
@dinaandrade5225 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this discussion. Two coherently thinking individuals. Thank you to both you.
@mico66915 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, Christian prince is truly anointed by God. And God bless this atheist, may he find his way to eternal life with our creator.
@isaiahfiftythree53345 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading the video onto your channel AS.
@nonaniumpin72825 жыл бұрын
For me as a Christian. CP teach me to recognise and love Jesus Christ even more. God bless you CP. By the way Keep up the good work bro Abdullah. May u Will be open your heart to Jesus because He is true God that did miracles even now to all people around this world.
@NotUrKimm2002 жыл бұрын
christian prince is li3r
@suki8985 жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure to look, watch and hear i did it twice I am a Christian i love the Lord. CP is just amazing his understanding and talking is just mind blowing to me . CP has open things that was there but i did not see it, the answer for me is the bible.
@TruthaboutIslam5 жыл бұрын
Smart CP
@fredkiyk31035 жыл бұрын
THANKS BOTH. CP IS REALLY GROUNDED AND WELL INFORMED.
@fredkiyk31035 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Ibrahim CP is a major in Islam and for him to be able to discuss other issues outside his discipline is a sign of grounded knowledge
@Jack-oe8hw5 жыл бұрын
Christian Prince is good at exposing Islam but since he is a Christian he will always lose against Atheism. I still appreciate his existence and work.
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Jack isn’t it a point? CP has a lot to do to conquer his own cognitive dissonance and bias.
@Jack-oe8hw5 жыл бұрын
@Hunter Not true, Christian Prince brings up so many interesting points you have never heard of before of any of these KZbinrs you have mentioned. I know because I follow them all :)
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Jack there are same arguments theist used over the centuries and CP repeats it as well. To be religious you need faith ... nothing else!
@megankelly24015 жыл бұрын
@Hunter IMO , CP is much more informative....because his videos bring out more details about Islam than many other KZbin videos. CP makes long videos but if you watch it, most of the time it teaches me something new about Islam.
@LVR19575 жыл бұрын
@Hunter you are wrong....CP is so far the best at exposing Islam. The rest are good but CP the best.
@samshafiei96945 жыл бұрын
Abdullah sameer: Matthew chapter 5 verse 45 God heals. Even us. We can be children of God.
@Pyroverbs2054 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. May God bless you and have a wonderful day
@sharonjohns16865 жыл бұрын
I think you want to become Christian. Lol. You're talking to CP and DW. Giants in convincing people of the TRUTH. God bless you bro. May the Lord answer your search
@gratitudeandlovee5 жыл бұрын
@Akon Ali We are christian
@Dragonfly2415 жыл бұрын
Thank you CP & AS, you guys are awesome and for me it's not a debate but rather a sincere conversation, its very healthy. Cant wait for next conversation.
@Andre_Servetus5 жыл бұрын
Very nice discussion and content. Thank you Sameer for being generous in your listening and a gentleman it serves you well and is an example to follow.
@Rwanto5 жыл бұрын
A Sameer love to see your views about humanism and christianity, I hope you can extend the dialogue vs David Wood...
@blastedblasted92635 жыл бұрын
After him saying that CP was a little s*** David Wood probably won't have anything to do with him now.
@Rwanto5 жыл бұрын
@@blastedblasted9263 CP is very sensitive I think DW more open minded
@blastedblasted92635 жыл бұрын
@@Rwanto he's sensitive because he had a man on his show who calls him a piece of s***.? I think Abdullah Sameer is an immature punk.
@GedaliahAR5 жыл бұрын
@@Rwanto He has already done a chat with DAVID Woods it was Awsome . Check out Acts17 YT channel
@Rwanto5 жыл бұрын
@@GedaliahAR I saw but nothing about science vs religion, I don't think AS can handle DW, AP vs DW will be an Epic battle...lol
@hen48045 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful conversation. Thanks.
@KIPKA-g2z3 жыл бұрын
The patience you exhibit in this debate, Abdullah, is commendable. This is how debates should be done.
@flaviavengurlekar88845 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome!!!!!. I am in awe of CP"S knowledge. He is like a library of religion, politics, science......you name it....he knows it.
@vincentjeyan1483 Жыл бұрын
22 The sun ariseth, they gather themselves together, and lay them down in their dens. Psalms 104:22 23 Man goeth forth unto his work and to his labour until the evening. Psalms 104:23
@dredzsmithz5 жыл бұрын
Abdullah is still defending Islam by comparing it to christianity
@AbdullahSameerVideos5 жыл бұрын
I'm showing they're equally false.
@dredzsmithz5 жыл бұрын
Ye ye there 's a lot of violent teaching in the bible also right?
@dredzsmithz5 жыл бұрын
@ I was being sarcastic with the abdull
@TheBananacoco125 жыл бұрын
@ I find it funny how arrogant you would have to be to say something is false when you have done no research on said subject, lol.
@manilabry84 жыл бұрын
The moment Adam & Eve sinned, was the moment GOD loosened HIS grip on Creation.🙏🏼❤✌🏼
@norbertorban89215 жыл бұрын
It's been absolutely a joy to listen to it. Thanks very much guys for the video
@sopowae1635 жыл бұрын
The way CP reasons things shows his level of understanding things he believes which is not of ordinary.
@sopowae1635 жыл бұрын
Khotam Halabi@ Amin. Betul skali bro.
@freedfromevil42135 жыл бұрын
circle is translated as "sphere" in the orig. lang. which means a perfectly round geometric object in three dimensional space like a round ball.
@delightk5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@calebblood8725 жыл бұрын
0 dimensional sphere is a point, 1 dimensional sphere is a line segment, 2 dimensional sphere is a circle, 3 dimensional sphere is a ball. etc.
@atheismisamentaldisorder18395 жыл бұрын
@Hellbinder Next LoL, an atheist talking about being brainwashed. LoL Such ignorance...
@gregtate83685 жыл бұрын
Abdullah, you did a great job having this discussion. You were gracious, and very respectful, I’m sure even as an atheist, you have earned the respect of many religious listeners. I’m sure, even CP has great appreciation and respect for you. You’re are good man!!! Keep it up!!
@Anon-ww5fj4 жыл бұрын
educated, gifted minds shine throughout the ignorance! i like your way of thinking, talking and most importantly LISTENING
@AbdullahSameerVideos4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@annmarieogilvie62945 жыл бұрын
At some point in the conversation, I was really amazed at how Sameer said he believes in the 'big bang' which he started studying only after leaving islam & his proofs are Einstein, Hubble? Telescope, expanding universe, relativity etc ( which in my opinion is 'recent' history). I can hear it in his voice how he is awed by such revelations, believing in it (hook, line & sinker) though he has never personally experience, seen, touch, smell or handled those things in which he chooses to believe in. He never met Einstein but choose to believe in him & his writings about this universe that we live in, isn't that some level of 'faith' - in a man. So I'm amazed that Sameer choose NOT to believe in the Creator - no faith in Him & His writings, recorded over thosands of years now - from the Genesis to the Revelation - about this very same universe that we live in, even though he has not seen, touch or handled this Creator.. What LOGIC is this? I think you should take a seat, have a quiet moment with yourself & examine your mind & heart as to how you CHOOSE to have 'faith' in one set of beliefs & ' no faith' at all in another, using the same logical reasoning as stated above. Abdullah Sameer it is my prayer that the LORD God Omnipotent, Creator of the heavens, the earth & this great, big universe bring your body, soul & spirit into true faith in Him & in HIM ONLY. I leave with you the PEACE of the Lord Jesus, a precious asset for every soul that CHOOSES to believe in Him, in this forever changing world & as He rightly said in Jn 20:29 "..... blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed" . Come home to fountain of Living Water my friend.
@globeagentronburgundy97475 жыл бұрын
So your argument is that we should have faith in a book that says earth is about 6000 years old, when we have living trees that are almost 10 000 years old? The definition of faith is "firm belief in something for which there is no proof", this is the opposite to science that demands evidence for all it's claims. People who believe in science also change their minds when new convincing evidence is found, while religious people don't seem to ever change their mind even if their claims don't match with the evidence. I'm not saying there is no God, but I'm saying if the Bible is his word, it certainly been written in a way that doesn't make it obvious and it instead very much seems like a book written by fallible humans. There is clear contradictions in the Bible which are hard to reconcile with the idea of it being the direct inerrant word of the all knowing God who created this universe.
@mythologicalbeast59264 жыл бұрын
46:33 Wow. CP must be a prophet.
@gewargisgeorgios81865 жыл бұрын
CP is an expert in Islam. He doesn't claim to have studied atheism or Christianity in depth. You ruined this interview by detouring into an off topic just to fit your agenda.
@TheWunder5 жыл бұрын
"CP" Didn't have an issue with discussing at length atheism etc. I see no issue here
@gewargisgeorgios81865 жыл бұрын
@@jendoubinour6902 Just because one believes, doesn't necessarily make one a scholar. They can be mutually exclusive. If this was the case, then we would have close to 6 billion scholars walking around. A good majority have sufficient reason to believe because of personal experience and convictions. And for the most part are not trained professionally in their field. So your statement is utter BS
@aminatacisse92275 жыл бұрын
Ba Ware Yneb you make me laugh expert in liars that's what your prince is he tell you what you peoples whant to hear about Islam and that make you happy all this punk does because he speak Arabic is to read and make his own definition that he knows will sweet you how can people be so stupid and believe that con artist that called himself Christian prince . You don't know nothing about Islam and you said someone is expert in Islam based on what knowledge you peoples are just a bunch of islamophobes who follow someone who just want to make money on KZbin and use Islam to make money .
@bygrace47755 жыл бұрын
Muslims, before they convert to Christianity experience many visions of Jesus, you can watch them in Muslim Journey to Hope. Just to say..... look to Jesus not Christians, Christians are only human and even though they are endeavoring every day to reflect Jesus in their lives they to suffer with things like pride too, difference is they recognize it and try to change 😊🙏📖👍 Have a look at Isaiah 40 v 22 where it says the earth is a globe. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, what matters is where will you spend eternity?
@messageoftruth49895 жыл бұрын
Cp busted you😂😂😂 abdulah
@faauluulugalal54615 жыл бұрын
Hahaha true😂😂😂😂
@EranRicos5 жыл бұрын
No, I believe they had discussion and both presented their views. Abdullah presented a respectable View during the discussion. I think it is possible to have cohesion between faith and science. Both should be in the pursuit of Truth.
@lamtiurlinda17265 жыл бұрын
CP , you are awesome...
@aig11115 жыл бұрын
F Kua I agree
@saotome65025 жыл бұрын
Jesus never said "believe in a stone"
@ammarsulaiman50695 жыл бұрын
Jesus also never said " worship me, i am your god " But jesus just said in the gospel of mark 12:29 In hebrew ( shema yisrail adonai yehuwa eloheno adonai ehacd ) In english ( hear me o israel people Allah our is god, our god is one) Did jesus christ said that " i am god or almighty " or he ask his peoples to worship only him as their god ? N O ! 😊
@dmm63413 жыл бұрын
I pray that Abdulla find salvation, he's such a beautiful man.
@jazzywayz97735 жыл бұрын
This civil and friendly debate shows how an ex-muslim turned atheist can have a good and fruitful and civil conversation with a Christian. If you are muslim and you are reading this, see how it is easy for Christians to live aside and have civil conversations with people who are not Christian. I have a lot of friends who are not Christian and even some of my family members are not and I still love them and respect them and pray for them and think the world of them
@NhwNews5 жыл бұрын
Message to Abdullah Sameer - Please listen to people like Prof. John Lennox who approach this subject from a scientific view point. Dr. William Lane Craig approaches it from a very Philosophical angle. Personally I gained so much from these people as I saw facets of arguments I never knew existed. Listen to Dr. Zakir Naik, if you want to have a good laugh!
@NhwNews5 жыл бұрын
@No Name No I don't. Darwinian evolution remains a theory. If one spicies evolved to another over millenia, the fosil record must have tholusands, if not millions of fosils that are neither one nor the next spicies. I.e. there must be millions of "missing" links. Many people hope and believe these links will be discovered but until then the whole thing remains a theory and not scientific fact.
@NhwNews5 жыл бұрын
@No NameDarwin's thesis is his theory about the origins of species based on what he observed in nature. He admitted that the fossil record is the main obstacle to his arguments. However, he believed it will just be a matter of time when these transitional fossils would be found (Hence proponents of the theory tried to invent missing links - E.g. Piltdown Man hoax). No one has yet discovered any species that is neither one nor the other. If/when these are discovered, we have a basis to accept the theory closer to scientific fact. Until then we have to keep an open mind.
@khaki7145 жыл бұрын
The Irony is that you guys hate Islam while Lane uses Islamic philosophy of Kalam (کلام) by Al-Ghazali to prove the existence of God!
@anomalylogic59475 жыл бұрын
@@khaki714 the Kalam argument is a generic argument proposed in this form by a Muslim for the existence of God. It is not proving the Christian God. Kraig always says that... for Chrstianity he provides other arguments mostly centered around the ressurection of Christ. Proving existence of God is only first step. This argument does not prove Islam.
@doomslayer51915 жыл бұрын
@No Name But evolution is still a theory to this day.
@guardianangel12435 жыл бұрын
Abdullah I really admire your search for truth and immensely enjoyed your natural ability to laugh even to opposing points of view..And CP I love the way you explain truths of the Bible with contemporary examples just like our Lord did by explaining truths "in parables "to people of his time. God bless both your families .Looking forward to more such respectful videos
@numbnut65535 жыл бұрын
@Abdullah Sameer what is the difference between a christian and muslim?
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Numb Nut none! Both a blindly following whatever teaching they choose.
@wizardronaldinho72045 жыл бұрын
Roxolana Thor dude what created the Big Bang you believe in a blind theory
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
Wizard ronaldinho here we go again... blind theory again... ok ok God caused a Big Bang! What about this theory? No proof necessary... Are you happy now?
@roxolanathor485 жыл бұрын
farish yep! Now it’s up to you how you life your life! Find your purpose, be good to others, do not harm but contribute to society, leave the best life! Long live Stoics! I make test tube babies, what’s your superpower?
@veronicaredeemed3 жыл бұрын
AS, the questions you asked are truly great. Your patience is amazing, CP is not always easy to converse with. You did so well. Thoroughly enjoyed it
@lilystrong98705 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not focusing atheism on Islam only.
@gigatt43115 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Park We Christians can leave with atheist, Buddhist and every other system of believe without any rancour. It is only Islam that seeks to form a government and suppress every other ideology.
@Gazus123455 жыл бұрын
GIG ATT You have no clue and are clearly brainwashed. First off, Islam doesn't seek to "suppress every ideology" and secondly, you are either ignorant or too stupid to not realize that ideologies such as Communism and Fascism exist.
@Gazus123455 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Park So many idiots focus on Islam, so why should he? See how stupid your logic is?
@markeden7675 жыл бұрын
Abdullah You really enjoyed conversing with CP Smiles all round
@marcusandreas28325 жыл бұрын
this is nice .. God bless you both guys.. 🙏🏻
@therationalguard79355 жыл бұрын
Love the way you converse AS.
@forummejl44685 жыл бұрын
Christian Prince does not stop to talk and barely listen other side. He took over 80 % of discussion and still said less quality information then Sameer.
@tanjavankessel25485 жыл бұрын
Yes that’s what he does :-)
@forummejl44685 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. In part, he wanted to win the discussion no matter what the truth is, and partly a problem in his intelligence. @BLACKANGEL
@ryanyoung43845 жыл бұрын
Abdullah you went sooo easy on him. You understood that he doesn't have the required knowledge
@christrisen65893 жыл бұрын
its the other way round CP went easy on him😂
@pyrokittykat7445 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ wonderful convo! ❤❤❤ Keep up the great work😁
@RandomGuy-ub3yp5 жыл бұрын
Cancer statistics? Interesting...However, keep in mind, the way "They" make the death rate of cancer lower is when someone is treated for cancer and survives for several years and then dies the death certificate doesn't state cause of death as "Cancer". It will most likely state, "Liver Failure", "Heart Failure", etc. I personally experienced this in my life. It is easier to be an Atheist than to believe "Believe" in God. Everyone should listen to Christian Prince's show, it is full of excellent information regarding Islam and the dangers. Christian Prince is the "MAN"!!!!
@NhwNews5 жыл бұрын
How do we know the New Testament/Gospel accounts are true? How do we know Jesus did miracles such as opening blind eyes? When the gospels were written there were plenty of eyewitnesses (excuse the pun) still alive who could have easily debunked and/or corrected the documents if the information was not accurate.
@everlastthomas50065 жыл бұрын
Read those books, they are historical too. Church fathers too confirm it.
@mrdanger1995 жыл бұрын
I mean you should find a atheist to debate. CP ‘s work is to help Muslim out of the cult. That’s enough
@eriksalipadang78785 жыл бұрын
An ex-muslim atheist more better than some peoples at speakers corner that still avoid to debating CP
@capone705 жыл бұрын
Great debate, and great questions from Abdullah. He brought up an excellent point: there are far too many fake "christians" walking around out there who claim that "I saw Jesus in a dream...and I converted!" If someone converts just because of a dream, then that is the sign of a very weak mind. Dreams are simply one's subconscious speaking; it could be they KNOW deep down that Christianity is correct, so the dream is the validation they need. But Christianity is a thinking-man's religion; if you cannot UNDERSTAND the basis of the message and how that relates to the human experience with God, then no "dream" will help you. Abdullah asks about the miracles recorded by Jesus, "how do we know they are real?" For this, you have to understand what happened next; EVERY APOSTLE OF JESUS who saw these testified that they were true...and they ALL DIED FOR IT (except one, Saint John). These people did not gain anything monetarily; they all died in poverty and brutally. They had in fact NOTHING to gain by saying this was true: the "church" did not exist then...they began it. So, why would 12 people testify to seeing these miracles knowing they (and their families) would die for it? Answer this, and that is your proof.
@bonihthaean23175 жыл бұрын
God bless CP, and God bless you too sameer..
@liuqbajangmambesidaaqberaa62894 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the discussion so positive.
@markeden7675 жыл бұрын
I LOVE both AS & CP They are different but in the same side of truth
@hpeter79515 жыл бұрын
Wow you both are amazing man, good knowledge we learn a lot from you.
@yeremiahermansah72845 жыл бұрын
It is better for atheists to focus on sciences than talk about things that are religious.
@Emet441-z8r5 жыл бұрын
Yeremia Hermansah I m christian I want jewish interpretation of tanach were i find
@anoshkababy91905 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for hosting Christian Prince and have a respectful debate. I am Christian and I love you BOTH ❤❤
@ericomtavares3 жыл бұрын
Really great and cordial discussion. If all of us were able to discuss like this the world would be a much better place. Very good points on both sides
@Anon-ww5fj4 жыл бұрын
loved the part with the antibiotics your smile man made smile too
@lucasnelson46355 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but which do you prefer to believe in something which is unsure or to believe in something that you can experience? However I love this peaceful debate. Thanks AS and CP 🙏🏻
@nadiadafairy5 жыл бұрын
Sameer cancer success rate is measured by the shrinkage of tumour and not so much longevity. In other words they shrunk the tumour it is considered as success but the patient has died.
@elijahmendoza19173 жыл бұрын
got me thinking.... isnt it about curing the person the main objective? not just tumor reduction? but yeah..we hope one day science will get there
@nelsin-nagantkimber-g47605 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. Nice discussion Abdullah. I always love a Christian and atheist discussion.
@LoveLove-jk9kz5 жыл бұрын
By “water,” in Hebrew cosmology *”Tehom”* was the primordial cosmic ocean that filled the entire universe, in the same way that water fills whatever it’s contained. So there can actually be imagery in the text. I’m not an expert on these things however.
@LoveLove-jk9kz5 жыл бұрын
because I know that the Church confesses some of the Genesis narrative is an allegory, and has not dogmatized any particular view. The only dogma concerning the creation is that God is the source of everything that exists and created the universe out of nothing
@AbdullahSameerVideos5 жыл бұрын
Why did ancient cultures think 'First there was water'... like in Genesis? kzbin.info/www/bejne/apa5d5qchpdpb5Y
@LoveLove-jk9kz5 жыл бұрын
@Abdullah Sameer - I read that the water in Genesis 1:2 can be understood as a symbol of life, depending on the context. As Psalms used it as a means of explaining how He makes a chaotic settlement into a renewed state. Psalm 107:35 - He turns a desert into pools of water, and a dry land into flowing springs. Perhaps, this is an allegory?
@gulagula65875 жыл бұрын
God bless you CP and your family 👍👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍👍 👍👍
@jonathanthainguyen5 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of Christian Prince before, but I was left feeling very underwhelmed by his arguments. Thanks Abdullah for having this debate. I really like these.
@st49254 жыл бұрын
This conversation was so friendly and casual..I was wondering midway whether it was bad manners to listen( eavesdrop) to their personal conversation 😂😁
@Andre_Servetus5 жыл бұрын
CP is just making the point that science is a human endeavor not something above human. Some people talk about it as if it's some special thing above us and what it is and they don't properly understand or evaluate it critically .. It is simply trial and error and a normal common sense human endeavor of trial and error and very simple and crude depending on how you look at it.
@TheSanthoshooty774 жыл бұрын
I never knew this Debate was done.! I came after watching Abdullah sameer's Channel " Why don't you debate David Wood" were another Ex Muslim mentioned about this and couldn't agree with CP. But For me CP's explanation was satisfactory to me. 👍
@ninevehdanyali69755 жыл бұрын
Abdullah i am a Christian and i dream everything before it happens to me. When i was 22 years old, i dreamt what disease and when i am going to die. I dreamt about all my family members death before it happened. I dreamt about my marriage and education too. I have 3 degrees, do not think i am an idiot. I have no fear of death. My mother was a pure Christian and she told me several time, she is in heaven. Love you brother and hoping you believe in christ as i did several years ago. Blessings
@aren31305 жыл бұрын
I m so proud of you Christian Prince.I watched this video till the end and it made me more faithful in Jesus Christ.Glad this Athiest called you persaonally.Hope one day as smart person he finally realised that our God Jesus Christ is exist the only creator of this universe.I believe everything has creator.Its no way that things happen and exist by coincidence.Science too created by God for benefit and for the betterness of human future but evil has make human being used it for their own benefits and evil things.But end of the day everyone must go back to their Creator. God Bless you CP.
@aig11115 жыл бұрын
Well explained CP and Abdullah ameer , embrace Christianity.
@flame14794 жыл бұрын
Truth Seeker ever heard of farid
@kamarudinhj.dolmoin85782 жыл бұрын
Jesus is a Muslim.
@aig11112 жыл бұрын
@@kamarudinhj.dolmoin8578 evidences suggested he has nothing to do with Islam. 7th century Arabs were using him to deceive people. How can Jesus be a muslim when he refers God as the Father? He preaches believers to pray in privacy and not publicly. He never condemns any particular race or religion. He never mention or promise earthly temptations such as virgins, servants, precious stones in heaven. His teachings are totally opposite to what muhammad n the quran teach. Apply intelligent n questioned islam instead of just listening to the deceivers
@hery49214 жыл бұрын
I should agree to CP.. to me it's an eye-opener
@CuriousFear5 жыл бұрын
At the start you would almost think you're debating with a Muslim about the science of the Qur'an, he literally gives the same excuses.
@johnrevour39775 жыл бұрын
i did not see that
@CuriousFear5 жыл бұрын
@@johnrevour3977 'The Bible/Qur'an is not a book of science.'
@abdullahhussein37755 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousFear The Christian theology never claimed the bible is a book of science! It never claimed it has scientific miracles in there. These are purely islamic claims.
@joshportie5 жыл бұрын
The science in the bible is 100% accurate thats a huge difference.
@joshportie5 жыл бұрын
Its really the other way around. Atheists dodge science because their origin story is anti science and goes against entropy laws.
@acerockstrick334 жыл бұрын
High level of discussion. Both brilliant salute!
@Rwanto5 жыл бұрын
I suggested you make an apology video to all CP fans just like nothing happened
@AbdullahSameerVideos5 жыл бұрын
Apology for what?
@Rwanto5 жыл бұрын
@@AbdullahSameerVideos didn't you CP point someone making comment about CP disrespectfully..but you clicked ❤ on that, ...
@Rwanto5 жыл бұрын
I hate this to happen but I admire both of you, it's very normal to have healthy debate but unfortunately that someone's comments CP pointed that cause the issue, CP think you can defend him instead u clicked ❤
@carolina23785 жыл бұрын
@@Rwanto : i guess he's just got a lot of unsubscribed..
@bryanbradley68712 жыл бұрын
Who do you think are better at debating atheist, Christians or Muslims?
@mrfahrenheit6852 жыл бұрын
Both loser. But christian generally more civilized.
@whydontyoustfu2 жыл бұрын
atheists for sure
@John-fv9qt5 жыл бұрын
May the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob blessed you with the spiritual search you have to guide you to the truth I will be praying for you.. I was listening to the conversation when you were live with CP
@waitwhat12642 жыл бұрын
This is what discussion is all about. Thank you for this one Mr. Abdullah, although you're an Atheist, but I would like to say God Bless you and your family. 🥰🤗