Sam Harris on Israel, Islam, and the end of Woke Ideology

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Yasmine Mohammed

Yasmine Mohammed

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@jackballjohnson3468
@jackballjohnson3468 6 ай бұрын
Sam Harris has been right about Islam, Islamism and Jihadism from September 12th, 2001. Thanks Jasmine for your great podcast!
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 6 ай бұрын
he's been right but I think he's still downplaying it to this day. but we're starting to see the ugly face of the monster more and more now.
@ahsenkhan5386
@ahsenkhan5386 6 ай бұрын
that the west did it
@SuperKripke
@SuperKripke 6 ай бұрын
False. He, along with a host of 9/11 liberals, have given intellectual heft to the idea of committing violence towards Muslims. In the time that Sam Harris has railed against There have been genocides against 4 distinct Muslim populations with the Western world's acceptance: The Uighurs, the Rohingya, Yemen, Syria and now the people of Gaza. Sam Harris' place in history is cemented as the Sophist for Islamaphobes.
@DarthJunkie666
@DarthJunkie666 6 ай бұрын
He's been right about pretty much everything. Lmao
@jaialaiwarrior
@jaialaiwarrior 6 ай бұрын
​@@ahsenkhan5386there's the voice of responsibility that your part of the world is so well known for!
@erickrockfort
@erickrockfort 6 ай бұрын
I grew up in a conservative Jewish zionist household with a family that survived the holocaust. We routinely worked with Jewish and Palestinian peace organizations and we had Palestinian students stay at my house on Exchange programs. Some of my Fondest Memories of that time were sitting in my room playing Magic the Gathering together. We are Lifelong members of the JNF, planting forests in Israel and building bomb proof playgrounds in Sderot, which have now been destroyed. I used to go to the Palestine protests back in 2007/2008 because how could one not sympathize with how some of these people live. Back then it was around 20 to 30 people at the protests. Oh how times have changed! Then I REALLY wanted to get the inside scoop, and got the blessing to do so when I moved in with Palestinian/Syrian roommates for 3 years. They taught me islam. I fasted Ramadan. I learned their stories. Families caught in the middle of multiple wars, bombed multiple times, and finally fled safely to the United States. To say that that experience shot me 180° back to my Jewish/Zionist roots is an understatement. The sheer amount of hate, vitriol, and antisemitism in the Muslim Community is beyond astonishing. Regular sermons from multiple Imams on ideologies of martyrdom, jihad, creating as much violence as possible in order to claim some land back. Repeated Holocaust denial and conspiracy theories from old antisemitic tropes. Horrific views of women/LGBT/people that weren't Muslim. If I had heard any teachings of these things from my Jewish community I guarantee you I would still be standing next to these people on the streets today protesting Israel. The things I value as a liberal person do not grow under Islamic regimes. They grow under democracy. While I'm no apologist for Israel and her many mistakes, there is no moral equivalence to the hatred and inequality spread in Islamist societies and the diversity and inclusion that is attempted in Israel and the west
@mkkrupp2462
@mkkrupp2462 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful comment! Thank you
@zetristan4525
@zetristan4525 6 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you were subjected to this hatefulness - in the US? My experience of the current massacre in Gaza is that many Jewish friends stand against it, and that Muslim friends recognize this and insist that they are anti-Zionist/Israeli-govt, but believe in full respect for Jews and how important it is to draw the distinction. But this is Cape Town - we tend to have our deep chats while hiking🕊️🥰🏞️
@erickrockfort
@erickrockfort 6 ай бұрын
@@zetristan4525 Yes this is in the US. I found similar surface-level sentiments from Muslims/Palestinians I've talked too (a couple hundred) but once I dug a little deeper in my questioning some very scary opinions came out. My go-to comparison from my experiences (if i had to consolidate everything into a nutshell) was when I was a kid during the 2nd intifada there was a rally for Israel at the JCC near my house. One man had a sign that said "Death to the Arabs". My mother quickly saw it and explained to me how wrong this was, the group around us swarmed him and kicked him out. When I was living in the Muslim community, there would be multiple entire prayer sessions in mosque dedicated to the 'cleansing of the Yahud' and the liberation of Palestine. I wish I had an answer for evil. But yes my brother may we all have the blessing to get outside and enjoy nature together🥰🥰🥰🌲🌲🌲!!!
@HecticGlenn
@HecticGlenn 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience
@myblighters
@myblighters 6 ай бұрын
Have you not heard the hatred coming out of the mouths of normal every day Israeli kids and adults alike? Not to mention their politicians and rabbis...It is clear that this goes both ways so why try to make out it's a Muslim thing? Besides, who holds all the power here? and who is oppressing who? Don't you think the oppressed people have a right to be pissed off? Meanwhile, the oppressors manufacture utter lies in their hideous propaganda to try to justify their murderous campaign.
@juliacaesar8462
@juliacaesar8462 6 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for Sam Harris. I am exhausted from this situation, the hatred, the anti-antisemitism, I needed this. Thank you.
@shoahkhan5670
@shoahkhan5670 6 ай бұрын
$amuel Binyamin Harri$: The 'intellectual' for sub-100 I.Q.'s
@myblighters
@myblighters 6 ай бұрын
Another tunnel visioned comment! SIGH! How do you feel about the mass slaughter of the Palestinians...the past 100 years of brutal oppression, occupation and repression? most Palestinians have lived their entire lives under the boot of Israel...how does that make you feel? if anything?
@rachlovesthebeatles
@rachlovesthebeatles 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by anti anti-semitism?
@shoahkhan5670
@shoahkhan5670 4 ай бұрын
@@rachlovesthebeatles They don't know -- it's just a term that has been indoctrinate into them, and which they parrot without ever asking what it _actually_ means.
@yaelberger2402
@yaelberger2402 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Yasmine for sharing your courageous story and Sam Harris for your clear moral thinking.
@fuzznakano
@fuzznakano 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, clear, moral thinking.
@bidhrohi12
@bidhrohi12 6 ай бұрын
I know, right? Jews don't get to commit one lousy genocide after all they've been through? They can't shoot four lousy Arab kids walking out in the open without people getting all ragey about it? Dang.
@Thiscannotbetruebutitis
@Thiscannotbetruebutitis 6 ай бұрын
Clear moral thinking to justify genocide. This is textbook worthy.
@alibabaschultz352
@alibabaschultz352 5 ай бұрын
@@Thiscannotbetruebutitis You are very confused
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 5 ай бұрын
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.”-Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.”-Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. Stephen Langton, the writer of the Magna Carta (12th century, contemporary with the crusades for a reason) studied in the university of Paris which archives show had plenty of Arabic treatises in its procession, there can be no question about it being inspired by the "Sharia". both the renessiance and the european enlightenment were directly preceded by massive translation movements form Arabic (see the Republic of Letters by Alexander Bevilacqua, The House of Wisdom: How the Arabs Transformed Western Civilization By: Jonathan Lyons. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@nomicucce987
@nomicucce987 6 ай бұрын
I was having this conversation with a Jewish Turkish friend who's been living in NY for 25 years and she thought I was an alarmist. I didn't even know how to respond. Thank you Yas and Sam.
@waitaminute2015
@waitaminute2015 6 ай бұрын
The first thing I did when I got the news of 10/7, was call my Jewish friends in the US. One of them told me Islam is a peaceful religion. I didn't want to rub anything in so I let it go.
@trexusification
@trexusification 6 ай бұрын
@@waitaminute2015 you’re a good friend. Most Jews got complete silence from their non Jewish friends
@nomicucce987
@nomicucce987 6 ай бұрын
@@waitaminute2015 Mind you she's Turkish. She should know a thing or two about it but no. Sadly I see this attitude with lots of secular Turks. They still haven't figure out what's going on, they can't see the big picture or maybe I don't know, they don't want to see it because it's quite depressing especially if you've got children.
@greatguy2141
@greatguy2141 6 ай бұрын
@@nomicucce987 The problem with Turkish leftists is they think the Democrat party is a leftist party, but it has long ago traded old school leftist values of freedom of speech and inclusion for censorship, exclusion, cancel culture, anti-Semitism, and wokeism.
@naor85
@naor85 6 ай бұрын
This is also, unfortunately, a common problem with Jews living in the West. Their obsession with far leftist ideologies have made them blind to the problem of Radical Islam.
@Peaceshiet812
@Peaceshiet812 6 ай бұрын
Can’t believe this is happening in today’s world, I naively thought antisemitism was not a big thing anymore, how wrong could I be . The insanity is just incredible. I’m a British non Jew, but fully support and pray for Israel ❤.
@inbaryogev1722
@inbaryogev1722 6 ай бұрын
bless you, thank you. I'm a jew and honestly being so hated is nuts, it's as if you're being looked at as some mythical creature deserving this epic emotion and inside you're like "i'm just a person, what's wrong with everybody?". I also thought it was a thing of the past. it's pretty bizzare I must say.
@jidrit999
@jidrit999 6 ай бұрын
​@@inbaryogev1722i understand you. I m not jew but i too have been hated for being hindu
@Peaceshiet812
@Peaceshiet812 6 ай бұрын
@@inbaryogev1722 I really can’t fathom it at all, it’s as if the world has gone mad, Gods knows where it’s going to end , but my prayers are with you, and I believe in reality there are a lot of people, who get it , they are just not the one’s shrieking on the streets and on social media 🙏🏼❤️xxx
@yonatan3001
@yonatan3001 6 ай бұрын
As a Jewish Israeli I appreciate your kind words.
@mvic81818
@mvic81818 6 ай бұрын
I’m in the same boat. I’ve long said that racism, homophobia, etc. are way overblown in our society and about most of those I am absolutely right. But I was completely unaware of how bad antisemitism still is. And to see that it is mostly those on the left (in the west) being the ones driving it is astounding.
@hadaszayada8606
@hadaszayada8606 6 ай бұрын
Most courageous philosopher of our time
@alexluthiger731
@alexluthiger731 6 ай бұрын
The light of reason and truth shines into the darkest hell circles of ideological and psychotic terrorists. God has bound loose all hell for pedagogical reason and a limited time. God alone is good - when God isn't angry. 🍷❤️‍🔥🌌
@davidanderson9664
@davidanderson9664 6 ай бұрын
Onwards Yasmine and Sam. Heroes - fight against religious darkness. D.A. J.D., NYC (writer and attorney)
@fedraa3967
@fedraa3967 6 ай бұрын
one of the scariest things I took notice is that, even if you point out many holes and the double standards in the pro palestine/woke movement in a completely logical way, most people just act as if you didn't say those things, or turn the tables with 'what about this, what about that' type of arguments, make false equivalences (there's homophobia in israel and in gaza, therefore gays being pro hamas is perfectly reasonable). It's like they double down in their woke convictions in a way that honestly, looks completely crazy and irrational. Like their entire identity as a woke person is depending on them being pro palestine without any critical thinking. They are defending their own self concept by never admiting they are wrong. I recently watched a documentary about the chinese Cultural Revolution of the 60s (Morning Sun, 2003), and it looks for me as if this woke movement is somehow comparable to it, this frenzy for unending revolution just for the sake of revolution, no room for moderation, etc.
@karlscher5170
@karlscher5170 6 ай бұрын
It's pseudo-religion, exactly
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget that the Iranian Islamic revolution happened in cooperation with the leftist communist type. then of course the Islamists betray them and commit all kinds of atrocities to keep all the power.
@wade2bosh
@wade2bosh 6 ай бұрын
The oppressed can’t have agency or do wrong to oppressors
@Crysalis-bd9so
@Crysalis-bd9so 6 ай бұрын
Couldn't have put it better myself
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 6 ай бұрын
" The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) - On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.
@CosmicD
@CosmicD 6 ай бұрын
Yesterday in the Netherlands, we saw a bunch of "pro Palestine" protestors screaming on the top of their lungs when the holocaust museum was innaugerated by President Herzog and some other Jewish dignitaries + Amsterdam's mayor, who didn't even bother to demand that this protest took place further away from the synagogue, it was literally across. And there's this clip of of the guy going around saying "hamas is my brother", and another pic of someone having his right arm stretched in front of him, and those are "progressives?" I see a lot of replacement shame coming from social media in the Dutch language social media. A lot of people speak shame, that Amsterdam and the Netherlands is put to shame. Especially targeted at the mayor who wouldn't think to mandate that the protestors would take another spot to protest, and not in the heart of the historicd jewish quarters of WW2
@davidanderson9664
@davidanderson9664 6 ай бұрын
Thank you from NYC my Dutch friend. Cheers! D.A., NYC
@CosmicD
@CosmicD 6 ай бұрын
@@davidanderson9664 no, I’m just frustrated at the level of hypocrisie and unequal moral treatment going on. and it was even worse than we thought. She (the mayor) decided that the attendees of this event should “hear” the grievances of pro Palestine protesters. Afterwards, politicians were not happy with how things were organized: When the ritual of christening the museum was performed, someone shouted, “get lost cancer Jew” : that is some style of vitriol right ? The mayor didn’t think for one second this crossed many lines. Years ago, an organisation called pegida organized a protest in front of a mosque, that was immediately dealt with and was seen as violation of Muslim sensibilities. So why don’t Jews get the same courteous treatment from a progressive mayor in her city ?
@scarba
@scarba 6 ай бұрын
Here in Germany there are some schools which a very large minority or even a majority Muslim situation in some classes. The tradition here is to make a class trip to a concentration camp in 9th or 10th year. My daughter was on a class trip to Dachau last year and she was the only one who cried. She phoned me from there for emotional support and told me her classmates were eating during the guided tour and had to be told to stop. Luckily the only demonstrations round here have been against the AfD. If Germany starts allowing demonstrations against Israel then the world is just completely broken 😞.
@stephanie4200
@stephanie4200 6 ай бұрын
That is absolutely disgustingly horrifying is actually happening proudly and protected in Europe in 2024
@ernstraedecker6174
@ernstraedecker6174 6 ай бұрын
​@@CosmicDOf course, Herzog should have been arrested immediately for mass murder, as you very well know. Your callousness with regard to the 30.000 slaughtered people is beyond repair, especially in relation to that what the new museum represents.
@amirh4733
@amirh4733 6 ай бұрын
Sam Harris is one of the few well-known people around the world who truly understand what Islam actually is and the threat it represents to modern civilization as we know it.
@johnwatts8346
@johnwatts8346 6 ай бұрын
that may be true, but his MASSIVE blind spot is- he is in utter denial / unaware that HIS beliefs and philosophy are also an enormous threat to civilisation. hes a thoroughly biased ideologue.
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 6 ай бұрын
his views on trump were like a hot flush karen's and the fact he favours biden over him means i find it impossible to respect him. seems like someones got dirt on him or he cares more about money, done the research and realized all his book sales are from loonie lefties for some reason.
@pabis6817
@pabis6817 6 ай бұрын
On the left- there are plenty on the right but they are media blocked..
@odetoazam
@odetoazam 6 ай бұрын
We Muslims are pretty nice and smart lol. Keep drinking the kool aid tho. And Islamism ain’t Islam just like hentai isn’t anime.
@jasonpillay9909
@jasonpillay9909 5 ай бұрын
One of the few shmucks.
@waitaminute2015
@waitaminute2015 6 ай бұрын
This channel should have millions of views. Intelligent conversations with first hand experiences from around the world. This tells me people don't want to face the truth. To me its such fake outrage and the masses pretending to care about women and children. If they did, they would listen to the victims. I just don't get it.
@unbreakableldorado7723
@unbreakableldorado7723 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely! She is super underrated for her courage and great work
@SandraKanferClarke
@SandraKanferClarke 6 ай бұрын
Agreed! I listen to a podcast called 'unapologetic, the third narrative', which is by two young Palestinian Israelis who are peace activists. I don't agree with every word but I applaud their sentiment and their ongoing efforts to provide a different viewpoint. I don't get why they aren't the voices that are being listened to as much as Yasmine. These are the people who have lived, and are living it - surely their voices are the ones we should take most seriously!!
@waitaminute2015
@waitaminute2015 6 ай бұрын
@@SandraKanferClarke so frustrating!
@trinchuzosparty
@trinchuzosparty 6 ай бұрын
​@@SandraKanferClarkefollow Rudy Rochman
@tarafreedom2584
@tarafreedom2584 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately very true!
@Wokonwater
@Wokonwater 6 ай бұрын
I don’t believe a war against Iran would unite all of Iran against the US and it’s allies. Amir is right about the Iranians having a recent enough memory of pre Islam. They also have a very rich history that predates Islam, and many are very educated. There is much opposition to the current government I believe, even if it remains largely quiet or dormant. Much of the Iranian diaspora have family and friends back in Iran, and I think most are overwhelmingly opposed to the theocratic government.
@novacancy7253
@novacancy7253 6 ай бұрын
So cool to hear Sam taking these wonderful ppl questions!
@mountainair
@mountainair 6 ай бұрын
This is a great convo Yas. Sending love and best wishes to you both.
@urielpolak9949
@urielpolak9949 6 ай бұрын
I feel him. As a jew me talking israel immediately puts me in a pre conceived camp
@VerminaeSupremacy
@VerminaeSupremacy 6 ай бұрын
There are a lot of self-hating delulu jews living their best lives in Americas and refusing to go back to where their families came from to vacate the land of indeginous tribes for some reason. If you're European and especially Eastern European tho, you would have a different perspective on everything.
@gg_rider
@gg_rider 6 ай бұрын
I joined the still justified imo opposition to the Iraq War. Before, it was unjustified for Michael Moore Bernie Sanders type reasons. Now I realize it was STUPID because it removed the enemy of Iran, and while Saddam was an enemy of Israel (and had once fired missiles at Riyadh?!!), Iraq was not a serious threat to Israel. Iran is. And I read that Israel had to be cajoled a bit by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Neocons to agree to support the US coalition. Anyhow, in joining that peace movement, I discovered weird communists hanging out with book tables. Later, I was recruited by friends into the pro-Palestine movement. Mind, it wasn't then presented to me as anti Israel, just opposing the Goliath of superiority of nuclear armed modern weapons Israel against ragtag freedom fighters with rather primitive mostly ineffective weapons. WHY NOT LET THEM HAVE A STATE? I thought of myself as standing for Truth. I didn't know, Palestinian-Arabs had rejected EVERY OFFER to build a peaceful state next to Israel. I didn't know Hamas totally rejected negotiations and only wanted total annihilation of Jewish people. There was a lot more I didn't know, while "standing for justice".
@tarafreedom2584
@tarafreedom2584 6 ай бұрын
Yasmine and Sam Thank you very much the enlightening discussion! 🙏🙏👏👏👏👏As a person who lived and breathed under a religious totalitarian regime like IRI, I realized that I could feel some of your points with my blood and flesh! It just blows my mind and can’t truly believe when I see how the Western liberals react to the current chaos!
@YoniBaruch-y3m
@YoniBaruch-y3m 4 ай бұрын
Especially given how Islamist theocracy has made it abundantly clear that they intend to annihilate everything about every plank in woke and left wing platforms.
@joelshapiro3657
@joelshapiro3657 6 ай бұрын
He is such a clear and honest thinker.
@ledaswan5990
@ledaswan5990 6 ай бұрын
He’s a racist pseudo intellectual.
@shoahkhan5670
@shoahkhan5670 6 ай бұрын
👌🤣
@myblighters
@myblighters 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I know he comes across that way but I think he is clearly biased on this. I have listened to him for years as he debated against religion. Then he started trying to argue that humans have no free will, saying everything we think, say and do is caused by our past experiences...which is a bit far-fetched IMO as we still have choices to make every time we are at a crossroads or dilemma.
@DataData1000
@DataData1000 6 ай бұрын
That's a good way to describe him.
@joelshapiro3657
@joelshapiro3657 6 ай бұрын
I just mean on religion and politics in the Middle East. IMO his philosophy is superficial compared to the Continental philosophers.
@nogaronen
@nogaronen 6 ай бұрын
thank you Yasmin.your voice is so important, especially for peace activists like me, who are confused and upset, learning the truth about our peace partners...
@blessed-u31
@blessed-u31 6 ай бұрын
Aloha Yasmine and Sam (the names of my niece and nephew also) I feel so unspeakably grateful to have found your voices, at this time of my being a progressive intellectual who feels horrified at all the Left who are supporting values of Jihadists, in the name of freedom. I would like to ask you for a podcast suitable for sharing with my Democratic U.S. Senator, as to why her stance of "Free Palestine" and demanding an "immediate ceasefire", is not freeing Palestine to have Democratic values, such as women's rights, freedom of religion, freedom to question beliefs, separation of church and state, etc. Mahalo for all that you do!!!!
@PaulSaundersRocketstar_
@PaulSaundersRocketstar_ 6 ай бұрын
Love what you do Yasmine. Thanks for having Sam on, 3 hour podcast, timestamps would be awesome! thanks again.
@NotZelda1
@NotZelda1 6 ай бұрын
Another great conversation. Sam's point is extremely important. If Islamists did somehow succeed in obliterating Israel, they would be far from done. It would be a sign that victory is that much closer. In your conversation with Jay Shapiro a few weeks ago, he struck me as somewhat naïve about this. I don’t think he realizes that Islamists and the West are not playing the same game.
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 6 ай бұрын
eye opening? This is what's eye opening. Christendom was always an empirial religion, born under the auspices of constantine, the subjects were converted at the edge of the sword and rendered into slaves for his majesty, often referring to him as their lord. In Islam such slavery is unthinkable. The only lordship is that of the creator, no station into which man was brought into the lands of Islam was to any degree as bad as the repugnant chattel slavery brought by the primitive tribalism inherent in their texts, for example, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” -1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” Albert describes a massacre occurring, in cold blood, on the second day following the conquest, painting a scene that is as horrific as it is realistic and detailed: "Girls, women, matrons, tormented by fear of imminent death and horror-struck by the violent murder wrapped themselves around the Christians’ bodies in the hope to save their lives, even as the Christians were raving and venting their rage in murder of both sexes. Some threw themselves at their feet, begging them with pitiable weeping and wailing for their lives and safety. When children five or three years old saw the cruel fate of their mothers and fathers, of one accord they stepped up the weeping and pitiable clamour. But they were making these signals for pity and mercy in vain. For the Christians gave over their whole hearts to murder, so that not a suckling little male-child or female, not even an infant of one year would escape the hand of the murderer". Evoking several of these verses in practice: - (Num 31:17-18) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - (Deut 7:2, 9:3, Num 21) thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them... - (Deut 20:16-17) thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth - (Josh 6:21, 8:24-27, 10:, 11:11-14,21-22) And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword... And cut off their thumbs and their great toes... He left none remaining: - (Judg 18:27) And they took [the things] which Micah had made ...and came unto Laish ...and smote them with the edge of sword burnt city fire. - (1 Sam 15:1-9) Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not but slay both man and woman infant and suckling ox and sheep camel and ass. - (1 Sam 27:9,11) And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive ... - (Esther 8:11, 9:1-19) Wherein the king granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together and to stand for their life to destroy to slay and to cause to perish all the power of the people and province that would assault them both little ones and women and to take the spoil of them for a prey... . - (Ezek 9:6) Slay utterly old [and] young both maids and little children and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] mark begin at my sanctuary. This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@NotZelda1
@NotZelda1 6 ай бұрын
@@mznxbcv12345 So many words, simply to justify slavery. Slavery is abominable no matter how it's organized. The more relevant point: it still exists. Where? Not in the West.
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 6 ай бұрын
" The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by himmaliar, in The Posen speech to SS officers (6 October 1943) - On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Yinon Plan.
@bananamiriam
@bananamiriam 6 ай бұрын
This naïveté will be at the West’s peril
@xiaomoogle
@xiaomoogle 6 ай бұрын
@mznxbcv12345 It’s a problem when no one can criticise Islam 🥱 No religion is above that. And the Islamic slave trade that was established in Northern Africa began in the 7th century and only officially ended in 1960 🥲 It was incredibly brutal - the men were castrated so they couldn’t procreate. It was basically slavery x genocide. Christianity at its core encourages self reflection and to be guided by morals (and it’s exactly why wokeness is happening because it’s actually grounded in Christian self flaggelation and ideas of original sin). Christianity reformed and it was Christians who ended the slave trade, not just in the west, but around the world (it was Christians who ended the Islamic slave trade, not Muslims). Islam doesn’t seem to encourage self reflection and a drive to be morally good to all, it just seems to require everyone to submit to Allah. Islam is in need of reform, just like Christianity was.
@PapakShirazi
@PapakShirazi 6 ай бұрын
Endorsing a regime change that bolsters the democratic movement from within is deemed imperative for Iran, as it holds the potential to mitigate the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, foster peace, and bolster stability both regionally within the Middle East and globally.
@RnD-u9n
@RnD-u9n Сағат бұрын
As true as that is, the likelihood of Iran experiencing the corrective gut check you’re alluding to is knowingly, purposefully and maliciously prevented by Islam. Everything about that religion needs to be ended.
@havocgr1976
@havocgr1976 6 ай бұрын
The fact that my far left friends, who are good and empathetic people refuse to acknowledge that what they want can only happen with the genocide of all the Israelis is infuriating to me.They woudnt support a genocide, but still they refuse to see the reality of the situation.Anyway, I would like to point out every Iranian I ever met,obviously outside of Iran,was a smart and kind person,greetings from Greece.
@maxfairclough3600
@maxfairclough3600 6 ай бұрын
As a person of the left myself, it’s been infuriating watching this unfold with people I’d usually align myself with and people who I know are good people. I’m neither Jewish or conservative either etc.
@gking407
@gking407 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@maxfairclough3600I couldn’t agree more. I believe those who don’t support peace and want to fight hate with more hate are either very young or willfully instigating conflict for their own nefarious goals.
@jmc5335
@jmc5335 6 ай бұрын
Maybe if Israel stopped occupying other people's land we'd see more peace
@kevinmcfarlane2752
@kevinmcfarlane2752 6 ай бұрын
Far leftists that I’m aware of imagine a single democratic state for all the people in the area, including Jews. So do I. However, the reality is that this cannot happen until the Palestinians stop wanting to kill all Jews and, beyond that, Islam likewise - and more generally abandons its religious supremacism. Unfortunately, this might take generations, so I see no immediate solution.
@EinSofQuester
@EinSofQuester 6 ай бұрын
The Left is insane. That's all I have to say.
@djx7109
@djx7109 6 ай бұрын
This was great! Thank you Yasmine and Sam.
@rachelkeane331
@rachelkeane331 6 ай бұрын
I love you both so much. One thing I heard the other day however: just because Gazans are openly criticizing Hamas now, does not mean they hate Israel any less. That is why the polls show that they support Hamas at 45% or so and support the actions of October 7th at 75% or so. They support "the revolutionary actions" against the Zionist entity, of which they themselves greatly took part as ordinary citizens! Step one is their hatred of Hamas, yes...the road to de-radicalization is long...decades long...
@mountainair
@mountainair 6 ай бұрын
So much of Gen Z has learned about I/P from social media.
@devorahfriedlander9139
@devorahfriedlander9139 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Sam for stating the situation so eloquently!! We are big fans of you here in Israel. ❤
@Ruby_Spacek
@Ruby_Spacek 6 ай бұрын
Wow, just discovered your channel! Good stuff 😊
@sleeplesshead602
@sleeplesshead602 5 ай бұрын
The part where Yasmine said 'us vs them' summarize everything we see in this world. Grew up muslim and I left many years ago, I realized how deep the hatred my teachers planted in me when I was in madrasa (islamic school). It's always about muslim vs jews & christian and I remember how spiritful my teachers said they wanted to just see jews killed. It was too much hatred covered my eyes, even when i was a teenager. You never saw muslim takes credit if a terrorist attack happens, because it's jihad against non-believers and it's okay bcs you get reward in afterlife. Ofc, victim mentality is deeply ingrained. Hadits and Quran simply their guide, nothing else. You can't criticize it, unfortunately. I am from Indonesia. Leaving the islam is just so hard for me to deal on the backlash, but I've gained my peace now. Yasmine, I support you fully on your doing to spread awareness about islamic ideology. I've dealt with that shit in the past and I am glad to see a brave woman to speak up about this. I've dealt too much hatred already since I decided to not wear hijab anymore, but you do beyond my own encouragement. Thank you, Yasmine.
@YasmineMohammedxx
@YasmineMohammedxx 5 ай бұрын
❤️‍🩹 I’m so glad you’ve found your peace now. It’s a long difficult journey to overcome religious trauma. Please reach out to my org for community and support www.freeheartsfreeminds.com xxx
@zjzr08
@zjzr08 4 ай бұрын
Is Jakarta or Java still safe for non-Muslims, I mean you can find refuge in the more Christian areas, I assume. Greetings from a Christian in the Philippines!
@FelizTheLifeguardMinion3
@FelizTheLifeguardMinion3 6 ай бұрын
Sam is always right lol 😂 he’s spot on 🎉
@penfro
@penfro 6 ай бұрын
Great discussion. Many, many, many thanks to you both and all those in the audience fighting the good fight.
@leonidkrimsky954
@leonidkrimsky954 6 ай бұрын
Great conversation. Thank you.
@raoulschur175
@raoulschur175 6 ай бұрын
I LOVE your courage to think and act on all the mistaken beliefs you were obviously subjected to. If only more people would simply think!
@rachelbrogniet2292
@rachelbrogniet2292 6 ай бұрын
How on earth did we come to this level ? I am a Canadian, and I came from Bangladesh. The kids grow up hating Jews and even in Bangladeshi passports where clearly indicated a prohibition to visit Israel. I am lucky that my parents were secular minded. Everybody in my family is practicing Muslims, they are good people but when it comes to Jews they tend to follow Mohammad's belief about Jews. The West simply doesn't understand this horrible phenomena of Islamic ideology. It's like a constant competition to go to paradise by following the Koran and Hadid completely losing any simple logic. The left has proven to be a total idiot. Canada and Quebec have become almost a Islam controlled country and province. It's so scary for women particularly when we come from Islamic countries to the western countries for a secular equal life, then you see that this ideology has followed you here. I am worried for my children who are secular but are facing constant pressure to adopt this left nonsense. The Universities are disastrous, they are playing the role of Hamas to indoctrinate our youth. Please stay safe Yasmine Mohammed and Of Course Sam Harris. Yasmine , it's ironic that your name is attached to Mohammed.
@jackduane5555
@jackduane5555 6 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to reading your book, Yasmine. It's on my list
@mrridikilis
@mrridikilis 5 ай бұрын
interesting how both Daniel Dennett and Daniel Kahneman were mentioned in this talk and both have since passed. RIP
@nazila265
@nazila265 5 ай бұрын
Majority of Iranians are no longer Muslims. They stood with Israel since Oct 7. You can search for the video which shows that in a major soccer match when Islamic regime brought Palestine's flag as a solidarity with Palestine in the soccer field, they all chanted: "Palestine Flag, Shuffle to your a...s, shuffle to your a...s!"
@kerrielees3078
@kerrielees3078 4 ай бұрын
I have been an atheist for 52 years , my husband for his whole life of 72 years . We don’t need a flag we just need to be good people
@gwensteddy2038
@gwensteddy2038 6 ай бұрын
Listen to mayhar tousi from UK too
@oferfalk9622
@oferfalk9622 6 ай бұрын
Broadly in agreement. Around 24min in, Sam states that many countries in Eastern Europe just needed a tiny nudge from the Nazis in order to go after their own Jews. Again, true. However, some countries resisted. Bulgaria (mentioned by Sam as genocidal against their Jews) actually protected their Jews. So did Albania. And there were others. Please assign blame where it's due, but also credit. Great podcast. Thank you
@johnboothman1235
@johnboothman1235 6 ай бұрын
these ideas need to be part of teaching critical.thinking to children
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
@ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 6 ай бұрын
Sam Harris is a beacon of hope in a mad world.
@ceeceeh
@ceeceeh 6 ай бұрын
His point that history showed us that the Nazis not only gave the people of Germany the encouragement they needed to accept the killing of Jews but also inflamed the people of many other countries in Europe is an important point that should be applied to what is happening in the United States today. It seems many people are searching for a charismatic leader (who may be using these people for his own personal desire for power) who will validate their hidden feelings of dislike of people who are not like them because of color, religion or the perceived unearned economic status of these people. The holocaust proved that it only took one man's stirring oratory to fill stadiums with cheering followers to unleash the evil that may lay dormant in all of us.
@ShaktaKash
@ShaktaKash 6 ай бұрын
7:35 "What can we do about that?" Definitions of tеrrоr are clear and the laws against tеrrоr do not depend on what that woman says or thinks. Everyone who is directly or indirectly supporting tеrrоr should be prosecuted. Unless we make sure that the law is enforced even (and specially) on people in highest positions, nothing will change. We should start with U.N. General Secretary.
@trexusification
@trexusification 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this conversation!
@joshc7865
@joshc7865 4 ай бұрын
Sam is spot on with Islamic radicalism, I don’t agree with all his philosophical view - but I’m definitely on his side with his views on Islam.
@rachelbrogniet2292
@rachelbrogniet2292 6 ай бұрын
Every one should speak out, yes being Muslim or ex Muslim, speaking out will impact more because of the personal knowledge of experience. But mostly you get bushed away with the label of representation of colonialism and white supremacy.
@hggfhh4449
@hggfhh4449 6 ай бұрын
Expose islam to the world
@tanyakruyt5122
@tanyakruyt5122 6 ай бұрын
Tolerance is the only way forward. Religion should not be abandoned but we have to maintain a reasonable, free society.
@gayzion
@gayzion 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU both ❤
@aSimpleTailor
@aSimpleTailor 6 ай бұрын
That intro was so middle American woman. And then i saw her blouse. Love that Sam is on her channel.
@Connaissances3
@Connaissances3 6 ай бұрын
Sam is just brilliant here as usual
@radicalrealtor2118
@radicalrealtor2118 6 ай бұрын
Yasmeen and Sam- Thank you.
@urielpolak9949
@urielpolak9949 6 ай бұрын
The murders of pim fortuin and theo van gogh , for making a movie with ayaan hirshi ali, is largely forgotten here. The votes for the anti muslim party recently came from different groups for different reasons
@peterdembowy4459
@peterdembowy4459 8 күн бұрын
Sam Harris is the voice of reason we all need
@maltija1
@maltija1 2 ай бұрын
@Yasmine Mohammed Have you ever interviewed Mosab Hassan Yousef? I think you two might have a lot in common.
@Etcher
@Etcher 6 ай бұрын
Great guest, I'm a big fan of Sam's and now of yours also.
@hadaszayada8606
@hadaszayada8606 6 ай бұрын
Amazing conversation. Thanksssss❤
@Aijan100
@Aijan100 6 ай бұрын
Love Sam Harris. He is the best.
@EgNosticApe
@EgNosticApe 6 ай бұрын
Wow I love that you had him in your podcast after what you wrote about him in your book
@NordsternOutdoor
@NordsternOutdoor 6 ай бұрын
what a great open discussion! very well done.
@ANOOPBAL
@ANOOPBAL 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see some time stamps
@sweeneyadair2952
@sweeneyadair2952 6 ай бұрын
The Rocks & Trees crying out saying blahblahblah....are the non muslim pro palestinian supporters at protests etc #ExMuslimsKnow
@GolfFix-qr5kx
@GolfFix-qr5kx 6 ай бұрын
Great content, especially the Q&A. Would like to see Sam do more of this kind of format 👌
@urielpolak9949
@urielpolak9949 6 ай бұрын
I know its bad. But this makes me to sad to keep watching
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 6 ай бұрын
I am glad to see someone like Sam getting out to talk about what is going on re: Israel. Secularism is right and proper, but I'm not so enthusiastic about the atheism. Whether we all know it or not, we are all agnostic ... no one really knows or can prove their beliefs.
@YoniBaruch-y3m
@YoniBaruch-y3m 4 ай бұрын
Atheism is when we realize that no matter how uncertain we feel, our ideas actually have just as much right to certainty as the stuff that fanatics claim to be so certain about. Without this knowledge you might as well just give in and take Pascal’s Wager.
@elenaguraevskaya6552
@elenaguraevskaya6552 3 ай бұрын
G-d bless you both for courage, intelligence and moral compass.
@orhirshfeld
@orhirshfeld 6 ай бұрын
Sam Harris, As always have so much clearity and logical straight-forward view of the world. Thank you Jasmin for raising voice of reform and real peace from Islamic World.
@saltspringdesign
@saltspringdesign 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Hollis_has_questions
@Hollis_has_questions 4 ай бұрын
Another among the many points that Sam has been correct about is that targeted covert killings are called for. This is reserved for leaders, not followers. Leaders have distinct faces, while followers are faceless. It’s often said that history is written by the winners; it should also be acknowledged that leaders are responsible for the conflicts, the winners of which are responsible for the victories and losses that shape the historical narrative and record. Note that a persistent narrative can challenge a written record, as demonstrated by how (what the Palestinians call) the “Nakba” is an emotional interpretation of what the (very recent) historical record depicts - Arabs see the disaster known as Nakba purely the fault of Israel, yet recorded facts show that Arab leaders persuaded the Arab inhabitants to leave their homes, to evacuate the area, with empty promises of a right of return that does not exist when a war is lost. Had those leaders believed that their lives could be forfeit for such persuasive purposes, in covert targeted executions, perhaps they would have been less likely to view their faceless followers as simple pawns. Perhaps there would not have been the wholesale abandonment known as Nakba followed by the lies that blamed Israel.
@Stevemcqueen808
@Stevemcqueen808 6 ай бұрын
I do have a question. I've watched Sam for awhile and his views on Islam, in general. Are there some other speakers that have direct arguments to his opinions? From my opinion, he tries to steelman many things he debates. I'm interested in a steelman response from the other side.
@oremfrien
@oremfrien 3 ай бұрын
I agree with many of Sam's views on Islam, but not all of them. For example, in this discussion, he considers reform to be lapsed religion, e.g. the way a person would be a lapsed Catholic. This means that the person doesn't have a unique theological perspective but just care less about its implementation. However, this fails to understand how Islam works as a life-organizing legal system. When you have a theology tied to a legal system, you can't just not implement the laws or you suffer hypocrisy (such as when police selectively enforce laws), you need to rewrite the rulebook. Otherwise, the traditional understanding will always be seen as more genuine. Islamism (modern Islamic theocracy) is one such re-writing (although it goes in the direction of being more concerned with the implementation of theology rather than less). If Islam is to be reformed, it will be by Muslims who actually grapple with the Islamic sources and reinterpret them like Qur'anists like Muhammad Talha or open-minded conservatives like Yusuf Hamza.
@rcg6178
@rcg6178 2 ай бұрын
The probability that this comment reaches Sam is slim, but I'll try anyway, because I feel so strongly about this. When he says he is "naturally against a state organized around religion" about the Jewish state, he's conflating the Jewish faith with the Jewish nation, and, thus, the Jewish nation state with a Jewish state in the religious sense. But Israel is not at all organized around its religion, even if many of its people are. And maybe it's Jewish in the sense that Norway is Christian, but for the most part it is the secular home of the Jewish nation. At least that's my understanding. In any event, great conversation with two self-evidently decent people in want of a better world for all of us. I am sad that people like you are either ignored or smeared by mainstream radical leftism, because you are in many ways the exact voices we need to hear right now. Keep making sensible mouth noises and being beacon's of hope to so many!
@majed11215
@majed11215 6 ай бұрын
She so spot on . Am an arab and i lost friends for defending israel 🇮🇱
@samfowles3663
@samfowles3663 4 ай бұрын
I learned about the Holocaust during my childhood, of course. I remember being so confused, not being able to comprehend how so many ordinary people could hate to such a degree, but I was young and naive. And 3 generations comforted ourselves by saying never again and never forget. And now, I am 50 and am witnessing it unfold, again, before my very eyes. And again am unable to comprehend but am no longer naive. I am British, we consider ourselves the very bastion of tolerance, take enormous pride in our role in WW2. All of that is literally laughable now we have our young people marching and calling for Intifada and waving Gays for Gaza signs 🤦🏻‍♀️. I keep asking my friends, when was it ok to hate Jews?
@1984isnotamanual
@1984isnotamanual Ай бұрын
52:45 your dad sounds like a great man. I wish he were alive so you could interview him, I’d love to hear his story. 32:00 what is that Hadith and in English translation, I want to find that and see it for myself.
@willhayes3095
@willhayes3095 6 ай бұрын
Yasmine, Sam and anyone who may read this, would you please comment on what you read here as I would like to know peoples' thoughts. As a sufferer of OCD/Scrupulosity (despite my rational facilities), would you ever argue from the combination of Psychiatry, and Evolutionary biology, that the following may indeed be true, as I know it would help those even without diagnosed OCD, but who maybe suffering (perhaps internally as part of an organized religion): I think religion has utility like everything in reality, which can result in good and bad behaviour/outcomes. As I see it, organized religion is a kin to a collective form of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, an addictive form of compulsive irrational behaviour to 'sooth' the existential anxiety created in an heightened emotional state, which programs people over time into thinking that the compulsive behaviour somehow validates their justifiable fears (actual fears that they are in danger stemming from evolutionary design) to begin with, and the need therefore to repeat this behaviour. I don't subscribe to the supposed fact that we have all the answers, and I am therefore what one would call spiritual in essence. I am an atheist in organised religion, but I am agnostic with the ultimate truth. I call OCD/Scrupulosity the sandbox theory, in the sense that individuals construct objects of supposed truth in this sandbox, that appear to them to be real truths. What these sandbox objects of 'truth' really are, are individuals' constructed objects of 'truth' built from irrational behaviour that distracts them away from their real objects outside this sandbox of actual truth. It is these things that they are actually afraid of, and the sandbox is a psychological distraction to 'help' psychologically survive their actual traumatic fears. I also liken this to where an alcoholic has an intervention but storms out of the room because they cannot handle being confronted with their actual issues/objective truth. I think organised religion can, and is, leveraged by (not in all cases of course), psychopaths that use people as pawns in a power game. I therefore think it is important for people to be critical of others and of themselves and to be aware of this when thinking about how they choose to behave. I think the only real control one has is that of choice of behaviour. I break conscious experience in psychological terms as 4 sequential stages: The 1st Stage of experience is that of thoughts and objectives events that occur in reality. You can neither fully control your own thoughts that come to mind, nor fully control the events that occur around you in reality. Stage 2 of experience is your emotional reaction to both the above thoughts, and events. Again you have minimal control over this. Stage 3 of experience is where you have control (at least the illusion of control) over the choice of behaviour you want to follow in the following final stage. Stage 4 of experience is in performing that choice of behaviour. It is within stage 3 where people can seed the development for poor behaviours, by instantly obeying their emotional reaction as 'truth', rather than mindful knowing that in many cases this presents a subjective distortion of truth that may not reflect reality. I think people should understand that it is in attempting to transcend one's own egotistical compulsions that one can step outside themselves, the I, and make an objective, and rational, choice of behaviour (stage 3), that will better determine their lives, and consequently the lives of others around us. I think the world needs a spiritual reformation/realization which supersedes organised religion. Cheers ❤
@RnD-u9n
@RnD-u9n 25 минут бұрын
Religion is a delusion and an excuse to do evil. If religion were OCD, all religious people would express OCD in all other aspects of their lives. And that’s not the case. Religion is a delusion, connected and/or real.
@jared2lit
@jared2lit 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for having Sam on!!
@henrikmidteng9593
@henrikmidteng9593 5 ай бұрын
Religion poisons EVERYTHING 😮!!
@DanielCasasamperaGonzález
@DanielCasasamperaGonzález 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic interview good job Yasmine!!!
@יהודיתת-ש7כ
@יהודיתת-ש7כ 6 ай бұрын
Time stamps please? 🙏
@TheLonesomeTenor
@TheLonesomeTenor 6 ай бұрын
Samuel Benjamin!!!! awesome
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 6 ай бұрын
It boggles the mind how one can find spiritual guidance from a book that incites hatred & violence towards those with different creed. Thus it is said that a faith that cause division in humanity is not a religion per se.
@YoniBaruch-y3m
@YoniBaruch-y3m 4 ай бұрын
By that definition Islam is not a religion at all.
@axelv1753
@axelv1753 6 ай бұрын
To believe or not believe the hamas description of what happened....it is not that straightforward. Each person can both believe and not believe on different planes, different cognitive processes. They can e.g. intellectually underatand that im fact it was atrocities but emotionally protect themselves by refusing to believe it anyway. I think that very few are so dumb that they really can't understand what really happened. And they are all responsible for their own mechanisms of denial. They have the moral duty to let the truth win in their minds and they are to blame for supporting what hamas did even if they on one plane doesn't believe it was atrocities. Each person bares responsibility for denials!
@Vanfryt
@Vanfryt 6 ай бұрын
Excellent podcast, keep up the good work
@alexmacharia4549
@alexmacharia4549 6 ай бұрын
Why is it shocking for Yasmine that some intellectuals think(a thought shared by majority of the world population)Hamas is a resistance movement, and that the acts of terror committed by hamas can't be isolated from the palestinian struggle for self-determination? Ans: Because to Yasmine and Sam Harris, palestinian struggle for self determination is irrelevant, it doesn't matter at all in evaluating the conflict, from their lenses the conflict is just about religious ideology( on one side of the conflict, Israel religious extremist doctrines aren't considered). With this belief intact, it is consistent that Yasmine would find it shocking that rational people will look at the conflict in a rational(meaning, put the conflict in historical context) manner.
@evamurray2564
@evamurray2564 6 ай бұрын
Long comment that said nothing. Google the grand mufti of Jerusalem, the founding father of Palestinian nationalism, who worked with the nazis to understand the hatred.
@alexmacharia4549
@alexmacharia4549 6 ай бұрын
@@evamurray2564 I dont need to google to understand people can hate other people, especially when they are denied freedom and right of self determination. I also dont need to google to understand that imeprialism is a real thing and that other people throughout history have dehimanised other people to justify their crimes against them, from US, Canada,Australia etc, and now Israel the last settler colonial state.
@evamurray2564
@evamurray2564 6 ай бұрын
@@alexmacharia4549 he was not just one person he was the founding father of the Palestinian nationalist movement and worked with the nazis. Ignore history at your own peril is a very arrogant position.
@alexmacharia4549
@alexmacharia4549 6 ай бұрын
@@evamurray2564 One Man working with nazis, doesn't make palestinian grievances irrelevant. And speaking of nazis , Israel is doing to palestine what the nazis tried to do in eastern europe.
@Crysalis-bd9so
@Crysalis-bd9so 6 ай бұрын
Why are you speaking for the entire world? You are claiming a large thing for 8+ billion people, why?
@charlesbalcher173
@charlesbalcher173 4 ай бұрын
Adds much moral clarity. Obviously studied philosophy to help form his beliefs.
@knowirds209
@knowirds209 6 ай бұрын
At 2:28 he says he doesn't care what the history is, or what version of history you beleive, all that matters is what to do now. That explains his simplistic idea of the bright red line.
@zacka9438
@zacka9438 6 ай бұрын
From ex muslim to Israeli no matter what apologist really raises red flags.
@karlscher5170
@karlscher5170 6 ай бұрын
What flags exactly?
@ponygirl1716
@ponygirl1716 6 ай бұрын
@elijahmarie77444 Go back on your meds, honey.
@chrisocony
@chrisocony 6 ай бұрын
@@karlscher5170 It's not true here because "ex Muslim" is so vague, but a lot of times far leftists become far rightists and both versions turn out to be quite unreliable.
@dzigizord6567
@dzigizord6567 6 ай бұрын
12:20 I hear "Hamas uses civilians as human shield" so much as a way it seems to justify so many civilian deaths. And I guess Hamas is doing it. But on the other hand, how can anybody use civilians as human shields when bombs are falling and leveling the whole city and residential areas? What can civilians do when they are pushed to Rafa and then Israel announces they will invade and attack there too? And let me ask you, is there any other country in the world that would be able to do what Israel is doing right now and not get global condemnation and forced to stop it? As an example take Yugoslavia that started clearing Kosovo of KLA terrorists and got bombed and territory taken away by NATO. What Hamas did on 7th October is 10 on the scale of terrible things from 0 to 10 where 10 is the worst. But at the same time we can also say what Israel is doing and the results of it is also 10. And what would be the result of this campaign? How many more terrorists will it produce for future troubles?
@SohelBahjat
@SohelBahjat 6 ай бұрын
Just found your amazing channel @YasmineMohammed
@finalfandy4766
@finalfandy4766 6 ай бұрын
.. perhaps, just perhaps there are just too many of us, human
@nafisehebadi4471
@nafisehebadi4471 4 ай бұрын
As an Iranian woman who was born and raised in Iran, I tell you that Islam is not a phobia, Islam is a trauma. It has always been a question for me, why these students have never protested against gender apartheid, death sentences for non-Muslims, pedophiles and thousands of anti-human acts that are being implemented in this religion?
@oremfrien
@oremfrien 3 ай бұрын
Ironically, for people who discuss how minorities within minorities suffer in unique ways from the same majority oppressor (intersectionalism), they seem completely incapable of imagining how a majority can oppress a minority and that minority can also oppress a minority within that minority. The idea that a subject can be an oppressed in one context and an oppressor in a different context must simply be too complex for them.
@joegordon-p6x
@joegordon-p6x 3 ай бұрын
Very intelligent comment , THANK YOU ,, LIBERATE IRAN FROM ISLAM!!
@paultardspambot
@paultardspambot 3 ай бұрын
to be fair, students in the US would have no impact on Iran and may even have a negative impact as Iran would try to play down domestic concerns as foreign inspired
@DMaybach93
@DMaybach93 3 ай бұрын
My question has always been, why is it always Iranians who proudly claim the “ex-muslim” title. Majority are always Iranian.
@paultardspambot
@paultardspambot 3 ай бұрын
@@DMaybach93 better internet access, an area in North Tehran as an activist base the religious police have left less restricted, a recent historical memory of a secular society
@Alkz774
@Alkz774 6 ай бұрын
Jasmine, as Sam says, we need many more smart and brave women like you. Thank you for who you are!
@FobusHolsters
@FobusHolsters 2 ай бұрын
Jasmin, you are so good. We thank you for bringing Sam to the show and being equally remarkable. I am fascinated by your stories and perspective. Much love from🇮🇱
@serpentines6356
@serpentines6356 Ай бұрын
We need more brave people, period...
@raquelfereres6396
@raquelfereres6396 6 ай бұрын
I am happy she is brave enought to speak up. We need more like her. Courageous
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 4 ай бұрын
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@KerriJust-fb2qz
@KerriJust-fb2qz 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your podcast and point of view on this topic, I live in Australia and was both alarmed and horrified of what took place on the steps of the opera house post the BABARIC attack on Israe. Hope your message will wake up more people in the West before it's late to save our civilization without bloodshed.
@LilacPledge
@LilacPledge 6 ай бұрын
I saw Harris and 3 hours of the video and rejoiced! Thank you Yasmine!
@unbreakableldorado7723
@unbreakableldorado7723 6 ай бұрын
Yasmine deserves so much more attention for her work
@israeluncovered3653
@israeluncovered3653 6 ай бұрын
Amen to that ! Fantastic work Yasmine keep up the brilliant conversations. All the best to you & good luck with your channel 🙏
@da3v1ls93
@da3v1ls93 6 ай бұрын
I subbed just now. She seems great
@unbreakableldorado7723
@unbreakableldorado7723 6 ай бұрын
@@da3v1ls93 she's a living legend, her story is one of incredible courage. And few use their voice for such dangerous criticism
@lisanathan2995
@lisanathan2995 6 ай бұрын
Stay safe as well… you are so brave.
@rachelkeane331
@rachelkeane331 6 ай бұрын
her story should truly be a movie. but people are too obsessed with islamophobia to show it.
@ghosthunter0950
@ghosthunter0950 6 ай бұрын
The story of how the Iranian Islamic revolution happened is extremely relevant here. It was an alliance between islamists and the far left that gave rise to the current situation after the left got betrayed and killed and oppressed by the islamists
@TruRedCRIME
@TruRedCRIME 6 ай бұрын
Yes nothing to do with the CIA coup over throwing their democratically elected leader. The stupidity here is astounding
@EpicLemonMusic
@EpicLemonMusic 6 ай бұрын
I mean it is right out in the open and yet people just deny and pretend that never happened. Not even 60 years ago....
@timfallon8226
@timfallon8226 6 ай бұрын
Isn't the most important part that the CIA and Mi5 led a coup against the secular Iranian government, installed the Shah a brutal dictator and only then the islamic revolution occurred?
@bluecoffee8414
@bluecoffee8414 6 ай бұрын
Yes! Fun fact. I lived through the Iranian revolution. My father was Sweden's last ambassador to Iran. We arrived 6 months before the revolution, lived through the revolution and my left a few months after the fall of the US Embassy. I was only 6 but I remember it vividly. Anyway you are exactly correct: Pre-revolution, the secular left wing allied with and cheerlead the Islamists, recruiting them to help take over Iran, after which the left assumed they would take their rightful place as the enlightened, sophisticated elite controlling Iran.
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 6 ай бұрын
The story of Christendom was always an empirial religion, born under the auspices of constantine, the subjects were converted at the edge of the sword and rendered into slaves for his majesty, often referring to him as their lord. In Islam such slavery is unthinkable. The only lordship is that of the creator, no station into which man was brought into the lands of Islam was to any degree as bad as the repugnant chattel slavery brought by the primitive tribalism inherent in their texts, for example, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” -1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” Albert describes a massacre occurring, in cold blood, on the second day following the conquest, painting a scene that is as horrific as it is realistic and detailed: "Girls, women, matrons, tormented by fear of imminent death and horror-struck by the violent murder wrapped themselves around the Christians’ bodies in the hope to save their lives, even as the Christians were raving and venting their rage in murder of both sexes. Some threw themselves at their feet, begging them with pitiable weeping and wailing for their lives and safety. When children five or three years old saw the cruel fate of their mothers and fathers, of one accord they stepped up the weeping and pitiable clamour. But they were making these signals for pity and mercy in vain. For the Christians gave over their whole hearts to murder, so that not a suckling little male-child or female, not even an infant of one year would escape the hand of the murderer". Evoking several of these verses in practice: - (Num 31:17-18) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. - (Deut 7:2, 9:3, Num 21) thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them... - (Deut 20:16-17) thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth - (Josh 6:21, 8:24-27, 10:, 11:11-14,21-22) And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword... And cut off their thumbs and their great toes... He left none remaining: - (Judg 18:27) And they took [the things] which Micah had made ...and came unto Laish ...and smote them with the edge of sword burnt city fire. - (1 Sam 15:1-9) Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not but slay both man and woman infant and suckling ox and sheep camel and ass. - (1 Sam 27:9,11) And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive ... - (Esther 8:11, 9:1-19) Wherein the king granted the Jews which were in every city to gather themselves together and to stand for their life to destroy to slay and to cause to perish all the power of the people and province that would assault them both little ones and women and to take the spoil of them for a prey... . - (Ezek 9:6) Slay utterly old [and] young both maids and little children and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] mark begin at my sanctuary. This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@Resenbrink
@Resenbrink 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been listening to and reading Harris for 20 years now and it has changed the way I think and live.
@shanedwood
@shanedwood 4 ай бұрын
That’s the danger of Sam Harris. He can mislead you the wrong direction.
@ruthbashford3176
@ruthbashford3176 4 ай бұрын
@@shanedwood I only have to look at Islamic countries to realize how dangerous Islam is.
@tbjtcaatgmailcom
@tbjtcaatgmailcom 4 ай бұрын
@@shanedwoodExplain what is the wrong direction?
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 4 ай бұрын
On the 7th, it is crucial to understand that there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 1148 total names on haaret dataset, 473 military and 675 were civilians. Ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1 . 4 : 1 - lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 7 : 1 According to UN OCHA data from 2008 to 2022; The collateral damage on the 7th was significantly lower than any of the ITf "mowing" operations, which had a ratio of 7:1 with 1,023 military personnel out of 6,541 total. On the 7th, with 473 military (418 were iTf military personnel, 55 belonged to the police) out of 1148 total, the ratio of civilians to military personnel was a mere 1.4:1 When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is a staggering 162:1 From the 161,233 accumulated civilian casualties over only 14 years of "mowing" operations. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.4:1, more than a hundred times lower. The 473 are - 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. The reported ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians Active duty military personnel: 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh UN Human Rights Office (UN OCHA) PA Civilians 2008-2023: 2008 - 2,325 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,440. 2012 - 3,992 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 255. 2014 - 17,533 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 1,492. 2018 - 31,259 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 300. 2019 - 15,491 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 138. 2020 - 2,581 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 30. 2021 - 19,183 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 349. 2022 - 10,345 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 191. 2023 up to September - 8,508 Wounded Civilians, Deaths 227. civilian deaths on the other side - 2008: 3 , 2012: 6 , 2014: 73 , 2018: 9 2019: 10 , 2020: 0 , 2021: 9 , 2022: 26 Total; 2008 up to September 2023 - 161,233 PA Civilian Casualties, 1,023 military personnel. Wounded includes: amputees from the deliberate targeting of knees by snipers, white phosphorous third degree body burns, etc The "Costs of War" study by brown in 2021 has these figures for the past 20 years of engagement of US policy: indirect deaths 4.5-4.7 million, direct 905-940,000 ; in other words 6 Million Deaths and 38 million displaced. This is relevant because of the Oded Yinon Plan. They are following scripture, the word עוֹלֵל, ʿôlēl which means 'Babe, infant, little one, a suckling' occurs 21 King James Bible Verses Of these verses: “Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.” -Psalm 137:9 “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”-1 Samuel 15:3 “Therefore I am full of the fury of the LORD; I am weary with holding in: I will pour it out upon the children abroad, and upon the assembly of young men together: for even the husband with the wife shall be taken, the aged with him that is full of days.” -Jeremiah 6:11 “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” -Hosea 13:16 The other verses are not much different. Infact it is always in association with violence. Indeed these verses are the reason why in the Crusades the sense of pious rejoicing at massacre does not appear to be the product of later theologizing; it is also found, in the account of the eye-witness Raymond of Aguilers: “in the Temple and porch of Solomon, men rode in blood up to their knees and bridle reins. Indeed, it was a just and splendid judgment of God that this place should be filled with the blood of the unbelievers, since it had suffered so long from their blasphemies.” In fact, Raymond continues, “This day, I say, will be famous in all future ages, for it turned our labours and sorrows into joy and exultation; this day, I say, marks the justification of all Christianity, the humiliation of paganism, and the renewal of our faith.” Another account by a chronicler and eyewitness-priest, Albert of Aachen, describes the killing of fleeing women, and depicts crusaders as:: “seizing [infants who were still suckling] by the soles of their feet from their mothers’ laps or their cradles…and dashing them against the walls or lintels of the doors and breaking their necks […] they were sparing absolutely no gentile of any age or kind.”The incoherence inherent in a stranger to Abraham calling the children of Abraham gentiles notwithstanding, this account evokes the very same Psalm 137:9 imprecation against Babylon, in Latin, “beatus qui tenebit et adlidet parvulos tuos ad petram.” This is the polar opposite in the Quran in Surah Al-Tanwir, literally "The Englightenining" Surah, Aya 8-9, we have the death of a newborn is mentioned amongst the penultimate signs of the end of times, emphasizing the gravity of such an action. That child, now resurrected, is asked for what wrong doing was she murdered. This is to emphasize that she had done nothing wrong, for she had done nothing wrong and this is the day of retribution where those who omitted the evil are to be punished. This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190, which exhorts to fight unbelievers and not be "Aggressors", in the commentary of what it means to be aggressors, this was stated Al-Hasan Al-Basri stated that transgression (indicated by the Ayah): "includes mutilating the dead, theft (from the captured goods), killing women, children and old people who do not participate in warfare, killing priests and residents of houses of worship, burning down trees and killing animals without real benefit." This is also the opinion of Ibn `Abbas, `Umar bin `Abdul-`Aziz, Muqatil bin Hayyan and others. Muslim recorded in his Sahih that Buraydah narrated that Allah's Messenger said: "Fight for the sake of Allah and fight those who disbelieve in Allah. Fight, but do not steal, commit treachery, mutilate, or kill a child, or those who reside in houses of worship." It is reported in the Two Sahihs that Ibn `Umar said, "The Prophet forbade killing women and children." بابتداء القتال أو بقتال من نهيتم عن قتاله من النساء والشيوخ والصبيان والذين بينكم وبينهم عهد أو بالمثلة أو بالمفاجأة من غير دعوة "To kill those whom you were forbidden to from women, elderly, children and those whom betwixt you is a treaty or custom or by surprise or without cause" -Tafsir Al-Zamakshari of the meaning of Aggressors in the Aya More hadith from Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah: حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، عَنْ شَيْخٍ، مِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ مَوْلَى لِبَنِي عَبْدِ الْأَشْهَلِ، عَنْ دَاوُدَ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ كَانَ إِذَا بَعَثَ جُيُوشَهُ قَالَ: «§لَا تَقْتُلُوا أَصْحَابَ الصَّوَامِعِ» "Do not kill the dwellers of monasteries" حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنْ جُوَيْبِرٍ، عَنِ الضَّحَّاكِ قَالَ: كَانَ «§يُنْهَى عَنْ قَتْلِ الْمَرْأَةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ» سَعْدٍ قَالَ: «§نَهَى رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَنْ قَتْلِ النِّسَاءِ وَالذُّرِّيَّةِ، وَالشَّيْخِ الْكَبِيرِ الَّذِي لَا حَرَاكَ بِهِ» "The prophet forbids the killing of women, children, and the elderly" This is the polar opposite in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Anfal Ayah 61 in which even oath breaking deniers/unbelievers are allowed to sue for peace states if the unbelievers they ask for peace, give it to them. The modifiable testament testament commands indiscriminate killing, genocide, plunder, mutilation, enslavement, or torture of enemies, including women, on the other hand.Surah Al-Baqara Aya 190 limits war to those who fight against Muslims, prohibits transgression, and implies respect for human dignity and life Indeed it is what precedes the famous "sword verse", always cited out of context. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@StarrDust0
@StarrDust0 3 ай бұрын
same, he's a great intellectual...hopefully he gets his due recognition.
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