Atheist Tries To Show Why GOD is Not Good: (Perfect Rebuttal!)

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4 ай бұрын

This video features a portion during the middle of the debate that Christopher Hitchens and John Lennox had several years ago around the question, "Is God Great?". I honestly think this was one of the all-time great debates about God in recorded history. Both gentlemen are highly intelligent and studied in their position & both did a great job communicating their position... The truth will out!
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@joshua2707
@joshua2707 4 ай бұрын
Here’s the full quote for anyone who wants it: "I agree very much with Christopher Hitchens. It is repudiation of many of the evils that he claims have been done in the name of God. But I've learned to distinguish between the greatness of God and the inexcusable evil that has been done by those professing His name. And so, I do not deduce that ‘God is not great and that religion poisons everything.’ After all, if I fail to distinguish between the genius of Einstein and the abuse of his science to create weapons of mass destruction, I might be tempted to say ‘Science is not great and technology poisons everything.’ What is more, as I look back at the evils of atheist regimes of the 20th century, I might also be tempted, ladies and gentlemen, to say ‘Atheism is not great, it has poisoned everything.’ As it is, I hold that science shows some of the greatness of God... The idea that God and science are mutually exclusive explanations of the universe is as wrong as saying that internal combustion and Henry Ford are mutually exclusive explanations of the automobile. They are complementary explanations. One explains how it works, the other why it exists... Telescopes can show us the wonder of the night sky, but science didn't put the stars there, nor did the laws of biology and physics, ladies and gentlemen. They describe what is there, they don't put it there... Yes, it does need a Creator. Alan Sandage, widely regarded as one of the fathers of modern astronomy, who discovered quasars, said, 'I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God, to me, is a mystery, but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something rather than nothing.'"
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
God does not answer the question why there is something rather than nothing because God is a something with all the complexity of intelligence and personhood. Intelligence requires that there is a world to model and form syllogisms.
@joshua2707
@joshua2707 4 ай бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 Did you even watch the video? You don’t have to watch the entire debate, but did you even sit through it and absorb it at all? If you did, then you must surely understand that from a theistic point of view your statement means utterly nothing. And if you didn’t, well, inanity shouldn’t beget you. And if you can’t suss out the meaning of the previous two sentences from this one, then God help you.
@user-qg1kb8ih3g
@user-qg1kb8ih3g 4 ай бұрын
@@joshua2707how nice of god to make his existence confusing to many people
@Boss-ot1iy
@Boss-ot1iy 4 ай бұрын
​@user-qg1kb8ih3g It's called free will kiddo. Revealing himself in his heavenly form would eliminate our free will. We all have purposes to fulfil and the odds of people that are meant to do great things in (say medicine) would most likely abandon that to just serve God in the way they feel truly glorifies him. Would you rather be a robot or someone who has their own autonomy?
@ralphlitton8521
@ralphlitton8521 4 ай бұрын
More like PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL BS. You're trying to rationalize your bigotry with a bunch of PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL nonsense. You want to be thought of as having a lot of intelligence and knowledge, but you're not really intelligent or knowledgeable. Deep down, you know this and desperately need to feel better about yourself, hence you're bigotry.
@scottm4975
@scottm4975 4 ай бұрын
“genital mutilation is entirely faith based” - that didn’t age well
@jordandesmet6593
@jordandesmet6593 4 ай бұрын
Ya the atheist left celebrates that now
@philipmitchener28
@philipmitchener28 4 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@freshbakedclips4659
@freshbakedclips4659 4 ай бұрын
@@philipmitchener28 timestamp?
@philipmitchener28
@philipmitchener28 4 ай бұрын
@@freshbakedclips4659 9:19
@neohleza24
@neohleza24 4 ай бұрын
Yeah now it's anatomical mutilation..
@evage99
@evage99 4 ай бұрын
My worldly stepson recently made the bold claim that all Christians reject science. I asked him to define "science"; he could not. I asked him to look it up; he read that science is a collection of observations. I asked how observing our universe meant that there was no creator; he had no answer. I asked him to give a basic breakdown of the "scientific method"; he could not. (This is a kid who's currently in high school with a B in physics.) I then gave a hypothetical scenario: Let's say that I wanted to discover how the grass in our yard obtained its energy to grow. I'd make a plan for various tests, sorting out all the variables that needed controlled, setting up multiple samples for experiments. But before I even began, I'd decide that I would NOT accept that the sun had anything to do with it. I'd reject that possibility outright, because I thought it sounded absurd. Then I would begin the testing, looking for anything but sunlight as a possible explanation. Does that sound scientific? He said no, of course not. I explained that that's what he was doing to God; he'd already decided that God didn't exist, and that he ws 100% infallible on that supposed fact. He was rejecting a possible outcome before learning anything. He was the one rejecting science, not us. I suspect that is the case with many atheists whose god is simply themselves. I myself didn't accept Christ until I dug into the history of scripture, and saw the mountain of evidence that says yes, Jesus is exactly who He claims to be.
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 4 ай бұрын
All Atheists, Evolutionists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world DON'T KNOW and just can't understand that Jesus Christ and his Followers are not Atheists, Evolutionists, or fanatics of any Christian and non-Christian Religion in the world but Worshippers of the Creator of the heavens and the earth and all that are in and on it. All the arrogant, cruel, and merciless Atheists, Evolutionists, Christians, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world DON'T KNOW and just can't understand that their Satanic arrogance and foolishness in raising, glorifying, and exalting themselves as better, greater, powerful, glorious, higher and superior than the Creator and his Christ will definitely result in nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever while the SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE of lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth to the authority and teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely bring them honor and the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. All Atheists, Evolutionists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world DON'T KNOW and just can't understand that they will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6 while the Creator's loving, kind, and respectful worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others will not remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, the Creator will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@byronjennings9681
@byronjennings9681 4 ай бұрын
Amen and God bless you my brother! I pray God opened your stepson’s eyes.
@Laird1956
@Laird1956 4 ай бұрын
Great answer. Even though Ravi Zacharias let us down ultimately it does not mean his answers were wrong. Ravi, in one of his books, discusses this very thing. He was at a get together of mostly academia I believe. His answer was to ask a question back to his questioner. I will paraphrase his answer. " Since you do not believe in God but science how does science say the universe was created? The answer given was The Big Bang. Next and what was The Big Bang? How it did it happen? Answer the point of singularity. And what is the point of singularity but the point where all the rules and theories of science no longer exist, correct ? Therefore, science isn't even based on science. " Uh that ended that discussion very quickly.
@RS54321
@RS54321 4 ай бұрын
Excellent analogy, but in anticipation of the expected atheist rebuttal, humans can see the sun whereas we can't see God. You're comparing a physical objects and measurable photons with an immaterial and immeasurable God.
@josephwheeler2672
@josephwheeler2672 4 ай бұрын
@@RS54321 I see what you’re saying but I would respond with this: This rebuttal skirts the issue and is beside the point. The analogy points out that it is unscientific to rule out conclusions before any experiments have been done and any evidence has been collected-- which is exactly what the naturalist is doing when he says, “If I can’t measure it and observe it, it does not exist.”
@kerstinklenovsky239
@kerstinklenovsky239 4 ай бұрын
There is something ugly about atheistic arrogance - and religious arrogance for that matter. But how beautiful is true Christian humility! ❤
@mcmanustony
@mcmanustony 4 ай бұрын
What “humility” is involved in Lennox peddling pathetic lies about evolution and utter nonsense about branches of science he’s never bothered his pompous duff to actually study. An arrogant, dishonest old buffoon
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 4 ай бұрын
@kerstinklenovsky239 and how beautiful is true atheist humility! ❤️
@valkyrie3493
@valkyrie3493 3 ай бұрын
​@@stevendwyer3652"atheist humility" is an oxymoron 😂😂😂
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 3 ай бұрын
@@valkyrie3493 why is it?
@valkyrie3493
@valkyrie3493 3 ай бұрын
@@stevendwyer3652 because you're the most arrogant beings that ever existed. Majority of you aren't very cerebral or intelligent. Only emotional. 🌚🌚🌚
@Izarktrail
@Izarktrail 4 ай бұрын
"Love your enemies" cannot come from a materialistic worldview
@polywug3852
@polywug3852 3 ай бұрын
This is a factual statement.
@ella5319
@ella5319 3 ай бұрын
Amen.
@sanghhho
@sanghhho 3 ай бұрын
Amen@@ella5319
@lionzion1879
@lionzion1879 3 ай бұрын
The old testament God did not love its enemies. He destroys them
@sanghhho
@sanghhho 3 ай бұрын
No he did but he gave the law of Moses which was a unfinished moral code FOR THE TIME and it was said that the Christ would come and finish it this is why when he died on the cross he said its finished and dropped his head@@lionzion1879
@swee7jimmy
@swee7jimmy 4 ай бұрын
the missed opportunity: just as Christopher Hitchens would not want to be a tyrannical overseer in his children's' lives, he also would not ever force them to love him, or be so overbearing that they lose their capacity for free will. He would want to be loved by them on account of their choice.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
He also would not judge his children’s actions and send through them into a dark pit if they dis obeyed.
@utopiabuster
@utopiabuster 4 ай бұрын
"Do as thou wilt" is true love. Your decision to play in traffic is wholeheartedly supported.
@Zefah
@Zefah 4 ай бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 Nor does God. People choose to reject and hate him, and thus their existence after this world will be miserable, because God will be ever present. What will be heaven for the faithful will be hell for those who despise God.
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127​@Are you suggesting that judging someone's actions is always a terrible thing? What exactly do you think about judging someone's actions? As far as sending them to H311, that's a common framing that's used as if to suggest that the individual didn't choose it for themself. It takes responsibility off of the individual. Now we can also play around a bit with that framing. Let's take the closest example here on Earth. Do we not have prisons for people who commit crimes? Do we not rightfully sentence some individuals to life in prison? Is it not best that certain individuals should remain in prison? And while we're at it, do we not also occasionally get individuals that willingly and rightly choose to confess and go to prison? Are there not individuals that choose to stay in prison for the crimes they've committed?
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127Also, if you're reading this, please do your best to not trigger the YT tyrants' shadow algo if you expect a response to any of your replies to me from me. This is simply a heads up for if you expect or want a reply from me. If you don't care, then just type whatever it is and let the shadow algo do its thing.
@rickh9396
@rickh9396 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens doesn't grossly misrepresent Christianity because he misunderstands. He does it knowingly and dishonestly to perpetuate the non-Christian public's misunderstanding and a caricature that is much easier for him to ridicule and argue against (i.e., a straw man).
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
And just how so does he do that? Can you give an example?
@rickh9396
@rickh9396 4 ай бұрын
​@@reality1958 He misrepresents Christian beliefs, as pointed out in the video. Did you even watch it? Did you pay any attention to Lennox's corrections of Hitchens' misrepresentations? I don't believe for one second that someone as intelligent Hitchens was, someone who spent countless hours preparing for and participating in numerous debates like this with Christians, never once stumbled upon accurate Christian doctrines. No, he chose to misrepresent our beliefs despite being corrected repeatedly by many people and by his own research.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
@@rickh9396Hitchens paints an accurate version of Christianity. When Christians are in power they justify all kinds of evil acts.
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
@@rickh9396 yes in fact I’ve watched the full debate several times. I was a Christian for 50 years and I think Hitchens is spot on. I’ve watched probably all of Hitchens debates. Example. Lennox responds early with the notion that somehow Christian horrors are different than the message. It is not. In fact multiple Christian atrocities are biblically based. Lennox made a big mistake here
@utopiabuster
@utopiabuster 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, I disagree. Hitch doesn't understand Christianity one bit and demonstrably so. Peace.
@willsmith8586
@willsmith8586 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens is a great debator and I love him for that. If it weren't for Hitchen's, I wouldnt have the relationship I have with God now. Nearly his life's work, speaking against God, actually gave credence of God's existence. Mearly pointing the bad players who were under the guise of Christianity and sainthood, wasnt enough to sway me to not believe. It only emboldened me to read the word of God myself. Not to hear it from a pastor or evangelical. Hitchen's words mean to me more than any priest, pastor or other person with a microphone in their hands could ever mean. Hitchens mearly pointed out that bad people pretend to speak for God. Thank you Mr. Hitchen's. You brought me closer to God and his word. RIP
@kladies3021
@kladies3021 4 ай бұрын
Amen!!! I love how God works!! So many are actually coming to faith through Hitchens and Dawkins! Even one of Dawkins close associates went onto Ray Comforts channel and shared his testimony. What I've learned through all this is that God seeks and saves the lost sheep. And despite human and the enemies (Satan's) attempts to dissuade and detour people from accepting him. It reminds me of the story of Baalam where he wanted to use the prophet to curse the Israelites and instead of cursing the Israelites God kept blessing them!😎
@sarabee7710
@sarabee7710 3 ай бұрын
Wow such an inspiring testimony. Thank you so much for sharing.
@gweilospur5877
@gweilospur5877 3 ай бұрын
There is never anything to be gained from rational people debating the religious, it’s like two people arguing when neither one of them understands a word of the other’s language.
@JazzyArtKL
@JazzyArtKL 3 ай бұрын
If you really understand Hitchens, you should have been an atheist and not believing in God without any evidence of his existence. Lennox is flat out strawmanning Hitchens here. No shred of critical thinking in your response whatsoever. Sad.
@sarabee7710
@sarabee7710 3 ай бұрын
@@JazzyArtKL what evidence would you need in order to believe that God exists?
@mav4031
@mav4031 4 ай бұрын
Love how he takes issue with God "surveiling every thought and moment" when Godless government is right now aiming to do not only the same, but control everything we do and think as well. God knows all, but He doesn't stop us from making incorrect choices. God doesn't take our freedom, but godless government is 100% shackles.
@suzanneflowers2230
@suzanneflowers2230 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@johnvirgilio5323
@johnvirgilio5323 3 ай бұрын
"You vill own nothing unt be happy." Now eat your bugs!
@VoVina111
@VoVina111 3 ай бұрын
Also what does he want God to do, close His eyes? 😂
@69woodys
@69woodys 3 ай бұрын
So what are your views on your mythical gods wonderful natural creations such as tsunamis, earthquakes, hurricanes etc which have been wiping out millions of innocent people, babies and all since humans walked the earth. Not forgetting the great flood he created which basically wiped out the human race. Actually, that's a lie, there was no great flood but if you still believe that then why do you worship a narcissistic psychotic mass murderer !!
@PaulRezaei
@PaulRezaei 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens, “Name one thing that is good and moral that an atheist can not do.” Me, “Love God.”
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
So you are claiming something here that cannot be demonstrated to be real. I do believe Hitchens, when he asked that question, was referring to moral behavior that we do on earth. In real life. And there’s nothing a Christian could do that an atheist couldn’t
@spacemoose4726
@spacemoose4726 4 ай бұрын
If that's the best you can come up with I think you just proved his point lol
@jshadnot
@jshadnot 4 ай бұрын
Which god?
@amybeavers9758
@amybeavers9758 4 ай бұрын
@@reality1958I would say the one good thing that an atheist cannot do that a Christian can, is to do good out of a right motive that is not self-focused. The good things that an atheist does are always about him or herself and proving how good and worthy they are. Only believers can do good out of love for God.
@brianmesser12
@brianmesser12 4 ай бұрын
That was pathetic, all atheist are self absorbed. You are full of yourself.
@theriveroffaith852
@theriveroffaith852 4 ай бұрын
The word of God reveals to mankind that tolerance isn't love, but that chastisement is love.
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 4 ай бұрын
Here's one thing I want to point out. If God is all-knowing and omnipotent, how is He arrogant? Arrogance would have to suggest that someone is overstepping their own boundaries. Thinking they're better than they are. I think the next time someone suggests God is arrogant or anything similar, the person should immediately stop them right there and ask for clarification.
@francisa4636
@francisa4636 4 ай бұрын
Given the number of mistakes god has made its pretty accurate to say he is accurate
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 4 ай бұрын
@@francisa4636 What exactly are those mistakes? How did you come to the conclusion that they're mistakes?
@francisa4636
@francisa4636 4 ай бұрын
@JiraiyaSama86 Where does one begin lol ... how about letting things getting so out of hand that he had to commit genocide or having a bible that contradicts itself in many places that's used to arrive at opposite moral positions or forgetting to smite Abraham for having an incestuous relationship with his half sister. The list goes on and on. These are charitably called mistakes the only other option is that God is evil
@anthonyoer4778
@anthonyoer4778 4 ай бұрын
​@@francisa4636you're attempting to use the gift of free will against God? You'd prefer tyrannical automation over free will and having the grace of a creator?
@francisa4636
@francisa4636 4 ай бұрын
@anthonyoer4778 free will doesn't exist, nor does free will negate the fact that the bible is contradictory or that genocide on God's own creation is indicative of a mistake nor any of the other mistakes in the bible. Do better
@dentonhahn2907
@dentonhahn2907 4 ай бұрын
Very good! I always felt bad for Hitchens, it seemed like so much anger, and pain. I think Frank Tarek was right when he summed up Hitchens, he said, "there is no god, and I hate him."
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Frank always seemed angry and disappointed with life while Hitchens was content and at peace.
@dentonhahn2907
@dentonhahn2907 4 ай бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 😄 funny.
@teeemm9456
@teeemm9456 4 ай бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 🧌
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens did these debates because he felt that religion is a potential threat to goodness…and he has a point
@dentonhahn2907
@dentonhahn2907 4 ай бұрын
@reality1958 yes, and he was not totally wrong, but he didn't do his homework well. For one he lump all religion as one. Second he talks of goodness, without a God, there is no such thing as good, evil, right, wrong.
@ijclnl48
@ijclnl48 4 ай бұрын
I have to give credit to Mike Winger for the answer to this question. It's such a no-brainer. The most moral thing a person can do that only a Christian can do, but no other people can do is love God. Loving God is the most morally upright thing a person can do.
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom 4 ай бұрын
AMEN
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
Morality, which is defined by we humans, is behavior that exhibits kindness to others. To me that is the highest morality. If following a god achieves and focuses on that goal then fine
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Christian’s did not do anything that atheist cannot do. Jesus was turned into a legendary figure so he cannot be used as an argument.
@brianmesser12
@brianmesser12 4 ай бұрын
Still need to show evidence for your god
@chucktowne
@chucktowne 4 ай бұрын
Its the greatest commandment, is it not?
@_Cicero_
@_Cicero_ 4 ай бұрын
1st time here. Professional gig brother, thank you for this. Stay the course, lead the way. I love you..don't stop.
@Musika1220
@Musika1220 Ай бұрын
I am a Deist, and I lately discovered and subscribed to your channel. I enjoy your thought provoking content. Thx.
@bradleygonzalez1160
@bradleygonzalez1160 18 күн бұрын
The Lord is near to ALL who call upon Him in truth. I found a Rescued not Arrested Bible in county jail. Changed my life. My family is healed and by His Grace my life is restored. Be safe and well.
@ImxxFuZe
@ImxxFuZe 4 ай бұрын
I want more John Lennox, Clearly one of our living greats! I hope everyone that sees the video, the whole discussion and/or reads the pinned comment gets the point that Atheism offers nothing and ruins what we know to have.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Christianity offer nothing but empty promises.
@LuciferAlmighty
@LuciferAlmighty 4 ай бұрын
Lennox makes it easy to justify my atheism, i feel my IQ drop everytime Lennox speaks.
@haydenwalton2766
@haydenwalton2766 4 ай бұрын
lennox is a moron. you can put that one in the bank
@ImxxFuZe
@ImxxFuZe 4 ай бұрын
@@LuciferAlmighty I pray you continue to watch these types of videos! God Bless you my friend.
@evage99
@evage99 4 ай бұрын
@@LuciferAlmighty An atheist that loves Satan...quite the paradox you're going for there.
@definitelynotsarcasm
@definitelynotsarcasm 4 ай бұрын
I'm always impressed with John Lennox I don't know why, but Hitchens seems to ask things in such a way that I find difficult to respond to but Lennox does it with ease
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens uses flowery language to convince you to accept his underlying premises; it takes practice to ignore the fluff and focus on the crux of the message being delivered.
@definitelynotsarcasm
@definitelynotsarcasm 4 ай бұрын
@@alisterrebelo9013 he is essentially my literary antithesis. I try to make things as short, simple, and direct as possible. He's far more refined
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
But did Lennox? Because Lennox responded with a narrative that seemed to seperate the horrors of Christianity from the message of the bible…when actually numerous Christian horrors were biblically based
@definitelynotsarcasm
@definitelynotsarcasm 4 ай бұрын
@@reality1958 perhaps you should listen to his response again
@publius5128
@publius5128 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens was quite good at masking the straw man and petitio principii fallacies. He was very good at arguing for the emotions of the observers, rather than addressing his interlocutor in good faith.
@edwinanthonyacosta4444
@edwinanthonyacosta4444 4 ай бұрын
It always amazes me the mental gymnastics individuals go through to blame God for the choices man.
@amaizenblue44
@amaizenblue44 3 ай бұрын
It always amazes me the mental gymnastics Christians go through to absolve god of guilt. As if he isn't responsible for evil despite the fact that he allegedly created everything. Like he didn't curse all humanity for the sin of his first children who had no concept of what sin was until they were tricked by something which did, who god also created and allowed to interact with them.
@valkyrie3493
@valkyrie3493 3 ай бұрын
​@@amaizenblue44just go and sin in peace. Leave God out of your choices. 🙄🙄🙄
@amaizenblue44
@amaizenblue44 3 ай бұрын
@@valkyrie3493 lol. OK. Satan says hello. 🙄🙄
@wavemaker2077
@wavemaker2077 3 ай бұрын
@@amaizenblue44 So you do believe that there is God. You just don't want to acknowledge Him as your God.
@amaizenblue44
@amaizenblue44 3 ай бұрын
@@wavemaker2077 I don't believe in any god, angel, demon, satan, ghost, leprechaun, vampire, or santa claus.
@jaybfalcon2
@jaybfalcon2 4 ай бұрын
His rebuttal was inspired by the Holy Spirit. You can tell. So simple, humble, but so powerful.
@kladies3021
@kladies3021 4 ай бұрын
You're exactly right. He knows God personally in that he knows his character. Oftentimes we hear people paint a picture of God based on misunderstandings and faulty human reasoning. This rebuttal definitely makes sense to the mind of Christ!!
@rgj8044
@rgj8044 3 ай бұрын
Glad you think so…..
@chrishamilton1678
@chrishamilton1678 2 ай бұрын
🙏🏼🙌🏼
@haydenbodenham
@haydenbodenham 2 ай бұрын
Really then the “holy spirit “ is lacking
@harryrun3754
@harryrun3754 Ай бұрын
The holy spirit has came into me many times. The only thing I want anymore is for the holy spirit to keep coming into me everyday and every single moment because it feels so good when the holy spirit comes inside me. It just gets better when he calls me a naughty boy and that just gets me going.
@christopherarevalo119
@christopherarevalo119 4 ай бұрын
It’s heartbreaking seeing non believers not only reject the love of Jesus but also try to convince others that their beliefs are true.
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 4 ай бұрын
Are Atheists and Christians worshippers of the Creator? ANSWER - No, Atheists and Christians KNOW that they hate the Creator and want their families and neighbors and the whole world to hate him too and believe their LIE and false claim that the Creator is unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD. Are the lives, dignities, and existence on earth of human beings important and valuable to the Creator? ANSWER - Yes, The Creator KNOWS that Atheists, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions are mocking and insulting him as worthless and useless but he knows too that all lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of his Christ and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of GOD" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are his Worshippers and Followers of his Christ on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The Creator KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6 but he knows too that he will not let his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Atheist lack belief in the supernatural. We are sharing the wisdom.
@brianmesser12
@brianmesser12 4 ай бұрын
Show any evidence for your god
@utopiabuster
@utopiabuster 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127 , There isn't a single atheist philosopher who defines atheism as "lacktheism"! Welcome to the 21st century.
@utopiabuster
@utopiabuster 4 ай бұрын
​@@brianmesser12 , Evidence to the atheist is like dreaming of playing an air guitar, waking up, convinced you're a virtuoso.
@mrp1224
@mrp1224 4 ай бұрын
John Lennox is a high ranking warrior for the Kingdom of Heaven
@joeleniola9140
@joeleniola9140 4 ай бұрын
That is a thing?
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 4 ай бұрын
As a high ranking warrior for the Realm of Common Sense I hereby challenge your puny god warrior! Hurrah!
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 3 ай бұрын
"god"? What is "god"? No Christian believes in or worships "god." I Am is not "god." ​@@stevendwyer3652
@WayneDomingo-Sambrano-xe4ff
@WayneDomingo-Sambrano-xe4ff 3 ай бұрын
Agree.... he's a definition of "I'm humble because I'm a savage"in a good way
@VaughanMcCue
@VaughanMcCue 2 ай бұрын
The opposition would fall about laughing in Lenny is the best they have.
@corundergroundreligion8190
@corundergroundreligion8190 4 ай бұрын
Name one thing a Christian can do that an atheist can't do? Admit they are a sinner.
@richyburnett
@richyburnett 4 ай бұрын
……without being proud of the fact (and often secretly sad about it)
@bobwilkinson2008
@bobwilkinson2008 4 ай бұрын
I think he meant something sensible
@corundergroundreligion8190
@corundergroundreligion8190 4 ай бұрын
@@bobwilkinson2008 sensible and Hitchens should never be in the same sentence.
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 4 ай бұрын
Ooh can I play, too? Become a priest and touch up little boys Get tax breaks/relief for religious organisations Completely disregard the burden of proof How's that?
@bobwilkinson2008
@bobwilkinson2008 4 ай бұрын
@@corundergroundreligion8190 LOL
@MsEmworld
@MsEmworld 4 ай бұрын
Job 38:1, " Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: “Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements-surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?". Thank God for Jesus❤
@doorlopen
@doorlopen 4 ай бұрын
This man is a man of God. He is used by God and loved by God. God bless him and keep him safe in Jesus name amen!
@Ezekiel336-16
@Ezekiel336-16 4 ай бұрын
The right and good statement, or more accurately profession, that all true believers and followers can make that Mr Hitchens can't is "Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior" and "I can do nothing truly good and beautiful apart from Him in my life"! In Christ, Andrew
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 4 ай бұрын
The Creator KNOWS that he authorized and sent Jesus Christ from heaven to earth thousands of years ago to preach and teach the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" to imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings. Jesus Christ KNOWS that thousands of years ago, he revealed that the Creator is the True and Sovereign GOD and exposed Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of Human beings ATHEISTS and EVOLUTIONISTS WILL NOT LIVE and LAST on EARTH FOREVER Jesus Christ KNOWS that all Atheists and Evolutionists who let themselves be tricked and deceived by Satan the Devil to reject his authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless and fill the world instead with the LIE and false claim that the Creator doesn't exist and even if existing is still unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths... lied to, deceived, and murdered by Satan the Devil. FANATICS of ALL RELIGIONS WILL NOT LIVE and LAST on EARTH FOREVER Jesus Christ KNOWS that all Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world who let themselves be tricked and deceived by Satan the Devil to reject his authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as worthless and useless and fill the world instead with their own LIES and false teachings about "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will never be glorified in their make-believe and fairy tale Heaven nor tortured for eternity in their invented and fictitious Hell but just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths.... lied to, deceived, and murdered by Satan the Devil. WORSHIPPERS of the CREATOR WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER The Creator KNOWS that all lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of his Christ and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of GOD" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are his Worshippers and Followers of his Christ on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The Creator KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6 but he knows too that he will not let his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@jakestefano4118
@jakestefano4118 4 ай бұрын
John Lennox was so eloquent and powerful in his rebuttal. These questions are hard to answer and he did a magnificent job.
@elizabethryan2217
@elizabethryan2217 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. And he doesn't try to hide behind clever language or put his opponent down. He's an absolutely class man.
@sneijder023
@sneijder023 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens fought so hard unknowingly resulting to denying his personal salvation. It's so ironically depressing.
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 3 ай бұрын
Salvation from what?
@lisakurak3733
@lisakurak3733 2 ай бұрын
I believe what they're saying is that Hitchens fought every step of the way to deny the existing God and any need for a personal savior but like Shakespeare's quote, "Me thinks he doth protest too much." After all, if God doesn't exist, why so angry at him?
@santiagoz.s.1024
@santiagoz.s.1024 2 ай бұрын
@@bensonbrett30 from oblivion
@haydenbodenham
@haydenbodenham 2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen Oblivion it’s wild (cool too )@@santiagoz.s.1024
@bensonbrett30
@bensonbrett30 2 ай бұрын
@@santiagoz.s.1024 What is oblivion?
@coilnchamberlain6506
@coilnchamberlain6506 4 ай бұрын
As the Bible assures us. Colossians 1:16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things have been created through Him and for Him. Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 4 ай бұрын
Are Atheists and Christians worshippers of the Creator? ANSWER - No, Atheists and Christians KNOW that they hate the Creator and want their families and neighbors and the whole world to hate him too and believe their LIE and false claim that the Creator is unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD. Are the lives, dignities, and existence on earth of human beings important and valuable to the Creator? ANSWER - Yes, The Creator KNOWS that Atheists, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions are mocking and insulting him as worthless and useless but he knows too that all lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of his Christ and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of GOD" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are his Worshippers and Followers of his Christ on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The Creator KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6 but he knows too that he will not let his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Assertions from ancient near eastern man is not evidence. God did not create anything. A fictional entity does not have the power to create.
@darianstarfrog
@darianstarfrog 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127its not very hard at that level..😂
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 3 ай бұрын
​@kos-mos1127 atheists put blind faith in the belief that a non-programmed-by-a-Mind, unguided-by-a-Mind accident can be "trusted" to give them "truth." I don't have enough blind faith to be an atheist!
@haydenbodenham
@haydenbodenham 2 ай бұрын
Like evil, suffering, cruelty thanks GOD
@Danno5894
@Danno5894 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this daily dose!
@_NEW3RA_
@_NEW3RA_ 3 ай бұрын
10:38 THAT PART!!!! Gets me everytime. Excellent response.
@Aldous944
@Aldous944 4 ай бұрын
Poor Hitchens. So in love with his own voice, brain and opinions that he had no clue. But we must allow him his eternal straw-man god, since he simply could not move beyond it or, ironically, do without it.
@2EdgedSword77
@2EdgedSword77 4 ай бұрын
I agree man, Hitchens fundamental view of Christianity is so flawed and distorted, he has no business even trying to attack it. If you're going to attack your enemy, at least know them we'll enough.
@johnmartin4152
@johnmartin4152 4 ай бұрын
Precisely. The man was damned fool and a blithering ignoramus. Why anyone is dumb enough to mistake him for a thinking human being baffles me.
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward 4 ай бұрын
That is why Hitchens arguments can be defeated so easily. They only seem to be good arguments to the ignorant.
@Saskobest
@Saskobest 4 ай бұрын
Quite the opposite , Hitchens is known all around the world, percentage of atheists increased in the last 20 years despite theists breeding like rabbits, so we can conclude Hitchens,Sam Harris etc all of the new atheists did very well on these debates@@thomaswayneward
@georgedoyle2487
@georgedoyle2487 4 ай бұрын
@@Saskobest The fact is that according to the Russian Communist propaganda machine, that is the genocidal maniac Joseph Stalin… “Death is the solution to all problems, no man no problem.” - [Joseph Stalin]. Sorry but when you lie, stereotype, straw man and malign Christ you are not raging against the MACHINE, you’re raging FOR THE MACHINE. Equally, Hitchens was a Trotskyist and the irony is that it’s common knowledge that in the end Christopher Hitchens actually became an apologist for the dirty deeds of the American empire…furthermore, I like how you claimed “Hitchens and Harris did well” right? Well they have both been caught out promoting the use of lies, using half truths and blatant factual errors to purposely deceive. If you want to claim that they “DID WELL” with deceiving a lot of people that’s a self own on multiple levels!! I also like how you conveniently missed this little DIAMOND CUTTER that slices right through Hitchens self refuting “RAZOR” because in Christopher Hitchens own words… “The crucial thing is to be willing and able, if not in fact eager, to kill them without pity before they get started.” (Christopher Hitchens). It's that last phrase that's particularly chilling. Reference: ('The Age' 5th September 2002):
@georgedoyle2487
@georgedoyle2487 4 ай бұрын
@@Saskobest Furthermore, Christopher Hitchens associate the high priest of “new atheism” Sam Harris actually had the balls to brag that… “I am one of the few people I know of who has argued in print that torture may be an ethical necessity.” (Sam Harris). According to the human rights lawyer Lutz Oette…. “Torture is one of the ultimate abuses of state power, and the use of extreme violence that exploits the powerlessness of individuals subject to state control is anathema to the rule of law. It easily becomes a license to target anyone who is declared to be a threat” (Lutz Oette). It gets even worse because according to Christopher Hitchens associate Sam Harris… “The only thing likely to ensure our survival may be a nuclear first strike of our own ” (Sam Harris). Sorry but if you’re going to defend Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and “new atheism” don’t forget to defend torture, “killing without pity before they get started” and preemptive nuclear strikes on men, women and children!! As i pointed out already, “NEW ATHEISM” that is fatalism and epistemological nihilism is exactly like the old atheism if the old atheism was bitten by two infected bats called DARTH HITCHENS and DARTH HARRIS and got a over Zealous strain of RABIES!! Everyone has a right to believe what they want and everyone including theists have a right to find it totally ridiculous, totally fatalistic, totally nihilistic and totally and utterly SELF refuting!! NOT to mention dangerous. Prove me “WRONG”? I’ll wait!! I rest my case!! CHECKMATE NIHILIST!!
@cthornton0706
@cthornton0706 4 ай бұрын
Truly amazing and respectful to one another. And the ending sent chills down my spine! God is everything
@ivanvanniekerk8040
@ivanvanniekerk8040 4 ай бұрын
Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool.
@georgedoyle2487
@georgedoyle2487 4 ай бұрын
“Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool.” Oh the irony!! Remember the good old days when thoughtful atheists, that is when “thoughtful” moral subjectivist’s and “thoughtful” epistemological nihilists used to give intelligent and powerful arguments [for] a strictly reductive materialism, atheism or philosophical naturalism??? NEITHER DO I!! Or even better!! Remember the good old days when thoughtful atheists, that is when “thoughtful” moral subjectivist’s and “thoughtful” epistemological nihilists used to give intelligent and powerful arguments [against] the fundamental nature of [MIND/CONSCIOUSNESS/THE ACTUAL/THE ONE/MONOTHEISM]??? NEITHER DO I!! Interesting fact, “NEW ATHEISM” that is moral subjectivism and epistemological nihilism is exactly like the old atheism if the old atheism was bitten by two infected bats called Darth Dawkins and Darth profoundly pointless and got a over Zealous strain of RABIES!!
@santiagoz.s.1024
@santiagoz.s.1024 2 ай бұрын
I bet it sounded epic in your head, dimwit
@James-wv3hx
@James-wv3hx 2 ай бұрын
Mark Twain
@NeonDemon88
@NeonDemon88 2 ай бұрын
@@James-wv3hxcongrats, you can quote literature. Care to share an original thought of your own to defend your atheism?
@James-wv3hx
@James-wv3hx 2 ай бұрын
@@NeonDemon88 Former Episcopalian Priest Alan Watts explains that Preachers are dangerous and that everybody and EVERYTHING IS God in his lectures - On Being God. And - What is Reality?
@skyttyl
@skyttyl 4 ай бұрын
I didnt expect to be listening and want to stop every other argument and correct the very crux of it. I know i ought not to be surprised the worldly don't understand, but it still throws me for a loop when i hear their arguments.
@DaysofElijah317
@DaysofElijah317 4 ай бұрын
You and me both
@leoteng1640
@leoteng1640 4 ай бұрын
When you argue against God through a godly person who knows His truth, you are up against the an impossible feat literally.
@down-the-rabbit-hole
@down-the-rabbit-hole 3 ай бұрын
I know many like myself who believe in a higher power, but don't believe in the Christian representation of the Angry (worship me or burn in agony) God.
@leoteng1640
@leoteng1640 3 ай бұрын
@@down-the-rabbit-hole I don't believe in such a god. The one I believe is the One who died on the Cross.
@down-the-rabbit-hole
@down-the-rabbit-hole 3 ай бұрын
@@leoteng1640 That's fine, you are allowed to have your "opinion"
@WayneDomingo-Sambrano-xe4ff
@WayneDomingo-Sambrano-xe4ff 3 ай бұрын
Well put ....
@leoteng1640
@leoteng1640 3 ай бұрын
Having read Summa Theologiae on the subject of evil, I can tell you that the concept of evil is very nuanced. There is the concept of penalty cause of evil which is by God as the author of all creation, and evil caused by the fault committed by the person. If you do evil (fault) and the consequence is burned in hell, this is evil cause created by God and it is logical. The evil you do is not caused or created by God, it is your own free will as the perpetrator to face the consequence of your actions. Imagine if there is no "bad" consequence to evil actions, what kind of justice will there be.
@beadoll8025
@beadoll8025 4 ай бұрын
Great vid but I always find it weird watching atheist who have passed on because we as believers know that they are regretting their choices now. Obviously, I understand that they made a conscious decision to reject Christ free gift of salvation but it still bothers me. As for blinded atheists....If only living men knew what dead men know.
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom 4 ай бұрын
That’s a really good point. Learn from Hitchens mistakes people! He’s a believer now.
@beadoll8025
@beadoll8025 4 ай бұрын
​@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Facts
@idealmodernsystems
@idealmodernsystems 4 ай бұрын
​@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom - *citation needed 😅
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Atheist never acknowledged God even on their death bed and passed on in peace. Christians are the ones having visions of hell before the die and screaming for the laws get to pray.
@Saint_Branden
@Saint_Branden 4 ай бұрын
@@Daily_Dose_Of_WisdomI looked it up on google and it said he didn’t covert to Christianity
@morielrorschach8090
@morielrorschach8090 8 күн бұрын
So Hitchens two primary points directly answer each other. 1- That evil exists. People are free to do bad things, and powerless to stop the world from decaying. But 2- If God were really in charge and managing the universe, then we would have no freedom to challenge him, freedom to do what we like on our own and make our own rules and try ruling ourselves! ... That's exactly the point of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Adam could have "taken the blue pill" so to speak, and eaten from the tree of life, rather than the tree of knowledge of good and evil. If so, God would be preventing all of this decay. There would be no famine, disease, war, etc. because God would be taking care of everything. It would be bliss, but blissful ignorance. We would never be able to appreciate eternal life with endless abundance AS WELL having never lived without it. Not knowing what it was to suffer, get sick, fear, and die. Like some trust fund baby who can't relate to normal people having never known anything but safety and abundance. So, the tree of knowledge was the opportunity for us to learn that. For God to step back and let us try ruling ourselves. Able to make our own laws, but responsible for the consequences of laws that fall short of his. The evil he doesn't like is the result of the challenge we made, which he is allowing because he's NOT a universal tyrant, but a loving father. And we're impatient children who've been in a corner for a few moments (relative to eternity) and whining about how he can't exist because either he lacks the power to stop us from experiencing the consequences of our decision or lacks the compassion! Epicurus doesn't take into consideration that this is a temporary era where we're allowed to experience failure in order to appreciate the greater good more completely. God is powerful and compassionate... But also patient to allow us a chance to make our own decisions. See the prodigal son in Luke 16. God is the Father. We're that son. We demanded our inheritance and to be "free" on our own. It's not that he lacked the power or compassion to stop us. But he allowed us to make the decision he warned us would be painful.
@gamessongs2762
@gamessongs2762 4 ай бұрын
Superb! Thank you for the vid. Praise the Lord!
@dustinmurphy82able
@dustinmurphy82able 4 ай бұрын
I love how he is talking about Christians being arrogant and conceded while he is talking in the most patronizing manner I have witnessed in quite some time 😂
@MyWitsEnd.
@MyWitsEnd. 2 ай бұрын
So thankful for hitchens. He showed me the way out
@user-fz3ug9wo2j
@user-fz3ug9wo2j Күн бұрын
wow...this is the strongest speech I've heard by John Lennox, and that's saying a lot! Praise the Lord!!!
@AugustRichards
@AugustRichards 4 ай бұрын
"Evil is the absence of God in Man's hearts." - Albert Einstein
@TurinTuramber
@TurinTuramber 4 ай бұрын
Source?
@markh1011
@markh1011 4 ай бұрын
Einstein rejected the idea of the biblical god.
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 4 ай бұрын
​@@markh1011He was wrong. He was wrong about many things. Your point? 😂
@markh1011
@markh1011 4 ай бұрын
@@bassmanjr100 The point... is that the original post is trying to use Einstein as some sort of authority but the quote does not represent his actual position. I'm surprised I needed to explain that. 😂
@durdy_bros2970
@durdy_bros2970 4 ай бұрын
@@markh1011😂
@angban401
@angban401 2 ай бұрын
Hitchslap is amazing. Forever be a legend ❤️
@bradleygonzalez1160
@bradleygonzalez1160 18 күн бұрын
I ask in all sincerity If he was wrong ? If he was correct? Jesus is Lord Jesus Saves! Be safe and well.
@Taydutt13
@Taydutt13 4 ай бұрын
He dunked on him at the end
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
Cristopher Hitchens never acknowledged God even on his death bed and rested in peace.
@Taydutt13
@Taydutt13 4 ай бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 that's sad
@ninja3687
@ninja3687 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127well, maybe he rested in peace. Or maybe he didn't.
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
@@Taydutt13 What’s sad is believing in near eastern fairytales.
@MarkHunterSolo
@MarkHunterSolo 4 ай бұрын
Magnificent response to Hitchens by John Lennox. Hitchens’s argument that if God created man with all the faults we see in human nature, then God is wrong to demand such a high standard of perfection, this takes no account of the grace and the power of God to free us from our shameful evil thoughts and actions through the cross of Jesus Christ. By rejecting God’s forgiveness and His enabling to transform us into beings of love fit for Heaven, we are failing to recognise that only perfect love is a sustainable existence for eternity since anything less than that must decay and all society and community will break down over time. This is why Christ equated unbelief with wickedness (for example Mathew 17:17 “You unbelieving and perverse generation,” Jesus replied, “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? ..”) because faith in God is a stand against the demonic forces of evil which control us when we give way to our sinful tendencies. The only way to become on the side of goodness is by believing God for power to overcome. Any non-choice for Christ such as atheism is actually a choice for the Devil and we cannot simply opt out by living in denial.
@0animalproductworld558
@0animalproductworld558 4 ай бұрын
This is a very very very good channel. Keep up being truthful
@CJ-vd6po
@CJ-vd6po 4 ай бұрын
Reminds me a a book I want to read called, “Is God a moral monster? Making sense of the Old Testament.” People will point to examples of genocide in the Bible and question why God would do that without understanding God or the Bible. Also, I completely agree with anything John Lennox says because he’s right.
@lemonwatersalt
@lemonwatersalt 4 ай бұрын
I pray he accepted God's mercy at his judgement.
@Saint_Branden
@Saint_Branden 4 ай бұрын
I hope he was saved.
@angiew2324
@angiew2324 4 ай бұрын
He'd have to accept God _before_ judgment - there aren't any second chances after death, but we have many until we take our final breath (or the mark, whichever happens first). Did he die?
@Saint_Branden
@Saint_Branden 4 ай бұрын
@@angiew2324 He did die
@lemonwatersalt
@lemonwatersalt 4 ай бұрын
​@@angiew2324Not true, even after death Jesus' unfathomable mercy beckons the soul to enter paradise. And if it refuses, it sentences itself to hell. Read the Diary of Saint Faustina.
@ninja3687
@ninja3687 4 ай бұрын
​​​@@angiew2324according to hundreds of NDEs that is false. Jesus has pulled many from Hell when they truly asked for him. Many NDEers attest to this. There is a difference between eternity and forever. We think within the context of time. Outside of time one moment feels like centuries and a moment at the same time. When one goes to Hell it is for eternity but eternity is not forever. You can be in Hell for just a moment and that would feel like an eternity because there is no time. At least, this is the explaination I have gleaned through listening to hundreds of NDEs. The key to understanding that is one woman who died and spoke to her guardian angel and thr angel told her "I have known you for eternities." In the plural. Wrap your head around that. Howard Storm is a great Hell testimony where Jesus saved him.
@thebondmenmusic
@thebondmenmusic 4 ай бұрын
Wow. Usually I finish these debates wishing I could be part of them, maybe to add my two cents worth. Here my hat goes off to Lennox. He not only dismantles Hitchens with precision and compassion but he finishes with a presentation of the gospel. Just wonderful. No man has greater love than this to lay down his life for his friends. No one could have laid their life down to save me from my sin except the wonderful true sinless man who is God the Son. Only a cold dead heart can turn their back on that: the greatest display of love ever shown to all the human race.
@poundtrader1414
@poundtrader1414 18 күн бұрын
We have the right to believe whatever we want, whether that’s not believing in God because of science or believing in God because of the Bible, humans have that choice, and who is man to judge another man’s beliefs, as long as you have peace of mind in your beliefs, that’s all that matters.
@teeemm9456
@teeemm9456 4 ай бұрын
When is the full beard coming? Thanks for the continued great content.
@whenifeellikeit
@whenifeellikeit 4 ай бұрын
Interesting how christian influencers have the need to simplify and alter C.H.'s sentences for their followers to understand.
@Laird1956
@Laird1956 4 ай бұрын
It's interesting to me how atheists like Hitches cannot state their POV in simpler terms. You are assuming that every atheists is smarter than any Christian but as I watched the debate it seemed to me that Lennox did not have to cloud his POV with a large vocabulary which Hitchens uses to try and make himself " appear " as the smartest person on the stage. It's a great debate technique but it is merely camouflage for the weakness of his positions. The commentator was merely getting rid of all the " fluff" Hitchens always uses to state Hitchens POV in a more direct and succinct manner which Hitchens either cannot do or does deliberately to hide the weakness of his actual statements.
@whenifeellikeit
@whenifeellikeit 4 ай бұрын
@@Laird1956 English is my second language and I understand Hitchens perfectly (a bit harder when listening to J.Peterson though). You don't understand Hitchens and I don't see arguments of the other side as valid, but I respect the speaker though. This seems to be a good topic for a debate, but it's one sided depending on who's listening.
@Laird1956
@Laird1956 4 ай бұрын
So again thank you for re-emphasing my point. Your reply and your original comment assume that atheists are always the " smartest people in the room ". I understand Hitchens perfectly. Every word, every meaning of everything he said. There's no reason to discuss any further with you because it seems that although you understand Hitchens perfectly and I according to you don't. ( an incorrect assumption) you apparently cannot understand my basic point which is atheists assume that all Christians are not as smart as they are. I have studied the atheist POV for years. Read all the books. Seen all the arguments So I have investigated my opponent. Have you done a deep dive to really understand Christianity? Maybe you have...I'm sure you're very bright. Being smart is overrated. I will take wisdom. It's hard in a text to convey my POV without sounding as if I am trying to stroke my own ego. Please understand that is not my purpose. I try every day to surrender it. So I will not debate who's the smartest people in any room because it's unprovable but I will pray that you at least open up your own mind that there does at least exist a possibility that humans may not be as smart as we think we are. I will pray for you.
@whenifeellikeit
@whenifeellikeit 4 ай бұрын
@@Laird1956 So much to discuss and talk about here...I was just surprised when you wrote that Hitchens should use simpler language. I apologize for implying that you didn't understand him. I'm profoundly convinced that the the gospel is greatly misinterpreted by the church and therefore misleading. I also am conviced the christian portrayal of God is misleading, too so I don't believe in that God. I believe that the Universe isn't stupid as it couldn't have produced an intelligent beings. I believe we are in a sense an image of this intelligent Universe, we came from it, and eventually going back to it. I don't believe God is outside the Universe. I believe that everything is God. The reality itself. The existence itself. An intelligent existence which is so close, so simple that you don't see it.
@Laird1956
@Laird1956 4 ай бұрын
In your world view where how did the universe begin? Just curious.
@Yard_Sale
@Yard_Sale 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for another great video!
@James-wv3hx
@James-wv3hx Ай бұрын
Former Episcopalian Priest Alan Watts claimes that Preachers are dangerous and that everybody and EVERYTHING IS God in his lecture: On Being God.
@osgrace3341
@osgrace3341 4 ай бұрын
The answer to Hitchens question is we can humble ourselves in reality not just in theory 😂
@TurinTuramber
@TurinTuramber 4 ай бұрын
Meaning?
@OBICHIBEN
@OBICHIBEN 4 ай бұрын
This is apt! The hypothetical rendering of the ethical framework that binds us and the divergence it breeds has made those who give their all to the restoration of meaning in existential reality, moral and ethical structures raving lunatics…such a shame.
@thepatriot6966
@thepatriot6966 4 ай бұрын
I find it facinating that non believers. Like to talk about God a lot. Have you noticed that?
@Eliza-rg4vw
@Eliza-rg4vw 4 ай бұрын
I find it fascinating, in a similar vein, that believers like to talk about unbelievers. Atheists talk about these topics because in commonly to an atheist, they only get one life, and believers may be sabotaging that. Or in some cases, believers have actively bee sabotaging their life. Just as a believer may see unbelief as dangerous (albeit, for the unbeliever alone), so too does the unbeliever see these beliefs as a danger. (Danger isn't the only reason, but it is a common one.)
@spacemoose4726
@spacemoose4726 4 ай бұрын
Almost like they live in a world that talks about gods a lot.
@tristanloveday5240
@tristanloveday5240 4 ай бұрын
​@Eliza-rg4vw How would a believer "sabotage" someone else's life? I think that statement implies an underlying "ought" or purpose to life, that can be sabotaged. As an atheist, what is that? What do you mean that believers "sabotage" their own life? That they spend their lives living in a false knowledge that God exists? How exactly is that a negative? Your statement again presumes an underlying "meaning" of life that would be "sabotaged" by focusing on God instead of something else. What is that?
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 4 ай бұрын
@@Eliza-rg4vw We can agree on one thing: we all have only one life. In most cases, we are not telling you that you can't live as you please, we are telling you how you *should consider* living it. Calling this 'sabotage' is bad faith, but I'm used to bad faith arguments.
@Eliza-rg4vw
@Eliza-rg4vw 4 ай бұрын
@@alisterrebelo9013 It's not uncommon for someone to clearly identify say their family's religion as a point of hardship in their life. Sabotage is a strong word, but it's fitting there. Religious povs are also not just telling us how we should live it, but making laws in direct support of these said beliefs that to others seem to be grounded purely in their religion and not anything else. The saying "No hate like Christian love" doesn't exist because Christians are kind.
@b-m605
@b-m605 26 күн бұрын
"... you must tell me of a right action.... that I could not (would not?) make myself" Hitchens. you sir,would not die for your enemy. God/YWHW is truly great.
@MrBsteers
@MrBsteers 2 ай бұрын
Lennox "The God that I know...." Lennox, like all theists, does not know God as he's never met, seen nor conversed with him in a 2 way interaction to actually know him. He goes by the stories that anonymous gospel writers have written about a person that claims he knew god. For Lennox to 'know' God then proceed to extrapolate a meaning from his view of him clearly shows an ambiguous, vague and non straightforward deity that requires clarification. It seems that the conclusion is that Lennox requires to explain his god. In that case if god can't speak for himself and requires shills to that that for him then he's not that good a deity.
@thebirdintern7488
@thebirdintern7488 4 ай бұрын
That last line was the my Holy of mic drops. DANG that was good!
@carpecervisiam9366
@carpecervisiam9366 4 ай бұрын
I was brought up through the Catholic church, even an altar boy, all the sacrements except extreme unction, went to the right schools, (with the worst pedo priests, not a victim though), turned away as I questioned whether the church had nothing to do with doing good. Recently I saw a piece about the Shroud of Turin & I came back to God, not this church structure that wants money but gives no pastoral care. I am in my 60s, I do not fear death, nor do I fear God, I believe that he loves us & if he loves us he does not want us to fear him. That is why we have the Cross & the New Testament
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 4 ай бұрын
The real, raging, and existing BATTLE to the DEATH on PLANET EARTH - ATHEISTS, EVOLUTIONISTS, CHRISTIANS, and fanatics of ALL RELIGIONS VS. JESUS CHRIST and his GOD and FATHER Atheists, Evolutionists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world KNOW and are fully aware that they are all NOT Worshippers of the Creator, the God and Father of Jesus Christ but the Spreaders of the Satanic LIE and false claim that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign GOD and they're also fully aware that they're NOT believers of the BIBLICAL teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" but the Spreaders of the Satanic LIES, falsehoods and UNBIBLICAL teachings and doctrines about "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation". The Creator KNOWS that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful earth without liars, perverts, slanderers, traitors, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8 is NOT for Liars and spreaders of Lies and deceits, NOT for Atheists, Evolutionists, Satanists, and fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of his Christ and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of GOD" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 The Creator KNOWS that all Atheists, Evolutionists, fanatics of all kinds of Religions, and all liars and spreaders of lies will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever after their deaths while his loving, kind, and respectful worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, Jesus Christ's followers, and many others will not remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@philipmitchener28
@philipmitchener28 4 ай бұрын
Just remember that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, just as King Solomon says in Proverbs. However, it isn't fear in the implicit sense, meaning to be afraid, rather fear here is translated into meaning having due awe and reverence towards God.
@wingamwila4113
@wingamwila4113 4 ай бұрын
Us humans by our own standards have failed terribly and yet we have the nerve to try and dictate Gods actionsand decide for him what a good God would've done😂. The "well if God was so good then why doesn't he do this or that?" question is valid but then again if you refuse certain facts then it will never mean much to you. If you refuse to accept the fact that we live in a fallen world then nothing God does will make sense to you and maybe you can revist this issue later on if you'll still have time😊😊❤ Otherwise these videos are always a blessing.
@lizzard13666
@lizzard13666 4 ай бұрын
Great content. Hitchens reminded me of an entitled spoiled child, it's a shame that people prefer charisma to truth.
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
I see Hitchens as someone who focuses on logic and evidence
@utopiabuster
@utopiabuster 4 ай бұрын
​@@reality1958 , Hitch had absolutely no understanding of philosophy.
@lizzard13666
@lizzard13666 4 ай бұрын
@@reality1958 He does neither of those things. He uses a lot of rhetoric, vivid emotional imagery, and "whataboutism" fallacies. That's pretty much all he had. Nobody intelligent should take him seriously.
@BibleSongs
@BibleSongs 4 ай бұрын
Although many claim to be his fans I can't believe anybody benefits or enjoys listening to his meandering, filibustering, straw-man diatribes.
@RS54321
@RS54321 4 ай бұрын
Charm is deceptive...
@17vmrivas
@17vmrivas 4 ай бұрын
Im glad atheist population is on the rise within the US.
@valkyrie3493
@valkyrie3493 3 ай бұрын
If course it must feel good to tell yourself that you can do as you please without consequence.
@17vmrivas
@17vmrivas 3 ай бұрын
@@valkyrie3493 freedom
@sweetnerevar7030
@sweetnerevar7030 3 ай бұрын
@@17vmrivasdragqueen story hour
@damienschwass9354
@damienschwass9354 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@valkyrie3493who is saying such a thing? Nonsense.
@valkyrie3493
@valkyrie3493 3 ай бұрын
@@damienschwass9354 nonsense atheists. 🌚🌚🌚
@SDIKMeyer
@SDIKMeyer 4 ай бұрын
I had never listened to Hitchens before. I thought that I would hear what he had to say. This is all that I need. First, I'll share my conclusion and then share why. I find him to be intellectually dishonest and tedious. Why? If he had or has actually and honestly investigated the life of Christ, who Himself, said He was the exact representation of God he could not have come to the conclusion that God is a cosmic bully. There is no honest way that someone can come away from in investigation of the Gospels, without saying that God does love us, is involved in our lives with much care and mercy and respect for us. Examples: Jesus' interaction with the woman at the well who had multiple marriages (and probably abused multiple times). The woman caught in adultery. The willingness to touch leapers, not just heal at arm's length. His weeping over Lazarus who had died (even though He could and did raise him to life). And those examples don't even consider the unthinkable willing self-sacrifice on the cross for you and me. Yet, Hitchens showed no evidence that he has done anything to familiarize himself with the nature and character of Jesus who said, "How can you ask, 'Show us the Father'? If you have seen me, you have seen the Father." Who would listen to someone who criticized Shakespear as a mediocre author, who had never read any of his works? Who would listen to someone rant about Leonardo DaVinci as being a fraud who had never investigated his works? Or a lawyer, who brought charges with no evidence. Hitchens is hailed as a great intelligent thinker, but I pity him. I really do. There is something amiss in the man's life that drives him to tear down hope and joy for others when he himself shows no in-depth analysis of the source documents of the faith that he criticizes. I have Q for Mr. Hitchens as well. Assuming that he is successful in tearing down Christianity to the ground as fraudulent, how is this message that the galaxies are going to collide and come to nothing going to better mankind in a manner that brings joy? I find Mr. Hitchens has nothing to offer, but nothingness itself. I wish him better.
@kladies3021
@kladies3021 4 ай бұрын
My friend. I don't see how anyone can miss the love and kindness expressed to us in Christ either. But then I'm also reminded of the Pharasees that had every miracle and good deed that Jesus performed in front of them continuously misinterpreted and spiritual blindness was at work! They even accused him of being demon possessed! How could they come up with that observation?🤔 When Lennox argued I understood him so well in that we know the same person. And it sounds like you know him too!! We want others to experience the life and love of Christ so much. But we can't control the results. We just have to trust that his sheep hear his voice and that he is drawing people to himself.
@Saskobest
@Saskobest 4 ай бұрын
babble
@georgedoyle2487
@georgedoyle2487 4 ай бұрын
@@Saskobest “Babble” Cringe atheism and triggered atheism in full effect!!
@renesoucy3444
@renesoucy3444 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes it is not the weaknesses of others that irritates us, but our own, sometimes humiliation gets the best of us and scorched earth attitudes are the result of too much pride and resentment.
@danaa.9890
@danaa.9890 4 ай бұрын
As usual, Hitchens supplies more straw men than a scarecrow factory
@daniel4492
@daniel4492 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens is great to listen to. Very smart, but a waste of intelligence. He does a good job making my faith stronger.
@RezTheKing
@RezTheKing 4 ай бұрын
That was really good almost left about half way but I stayed till the end ❤
@Jefe692
@Jefe692 2 ай бұрын
What great apologetics. He shows kindness and gives credit to his adversary. Real Christian virtue. Excellent
@protovici1476
@protovici1476 4 ай бұрын
How can a finite being disprove an infinite being?
@rudysimoens570
@rudysimoens570 4 ай бұрын
You cannot disprove that unicorns or pixies exist but that is no reason to believe that they exist in reality! The same applies to ALL god concepts that people believed in or still believe! And it is preposterous to believe that an imaginary "entity" that is supposed to "exist" "out of space and out of time", that "itself" was not "created" ( special pleading), and is also supposed to have "created everything out of nothing" ( again special pleading ), the trillions and trillions of galaxies, stars, planets, black holes, etc with the coming into existence of the species of big apes called the Homosapiens, after millions of years of evolution, in mind! It is even more absurd and preposterous to also believe that such an imaginary "entity" would care about what and when the Homosapiens should eat, what clothes women should wear, with whom they should have sex with and in what position, etc! The imaginary "entity" is also not detectable in any way! It looks very much like something that does not exist isn't it? There is not a shred of evidence for the existence of ANY god or Allah or whatever name they gave to their non-existing celestial dictator so it's about time to grow up and to leave all that supernatural nonsense of ANY religion and all those bronze age myths behind and to deal with the REAL NATURAL WORLD!
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 4 ай бұрын
How can a finite being PROVE an infinite being?
@rudysimoens570
@rudysimoens570 4 ай бұрын
@@stevendwyer3652 the concept of an imaginary God is on purpose constructed in a way that it cannot be falsified. It is an imaginary "entity" that is supposed to "exist" "out of space and out of time", that "itself" was not "created" ( special pleading), and is supposed to have "created" everything "out of nothing" ( again special pleading) with the coming into existence, after millions of years of evolution, of the species of big apes called the Homosapiens, in mind. That's absurd of course! And moreover "it" is not detectable in any way! That are exactly the same characteristics of something that does not exist! That's very suspicious isn't it? But the crux of christianity ( and of all the other religions I know of ) has been debunked by science and more precisely by evolution. So better stick to reality and to leave all that supernatural nonsense of ANY religion and all those bronze age myths behind and to deal with the REAL NATURAL WORLD!
@protovici1476
@protovici1476 4 ай бұрын
@@stevendwyer3652 Like the reverse they can't also. The infinite being must reveal themselves to each finite being.
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 4 ай бұрын
@@protovici1476 i do not believe there is an infinite being. Nor do I believe any Christian when they claim there to be. Every theist who describes a 'personal god' or 'personal relationship' with god is suffering from severe mental illnesses and delusions of grandeur. Treatable conditions if only you would seek the right help
@gbnessdot96
@gbnessdot96 4 ай бұрын
I tell you guys, it’s not the man questioning God but the man answering for Him that causes the problem.
@VaughanMcCue
@VaughanMcCue 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant- thanks. I am happy to collect your gullibility money for my god because he wants me to get a new beer fridge and put an air conditioner in the bedroom so he can send me cool or warm off-season messages.
@AreEnTee
@AreEnTee 2 ай бұрын
​@VaughanMcCue one thing that he forgot to mention (even though he didn't have to): If your wishes brings you closer God, then it's from God If you're wishes pushes you away from God, then it's not from God Jesus taught us to be contempt with what we have, in the story of the rich man (Matthew 19). To yearn for materialistic things to please our materialistic desires is not from God
@VaughanMcCue
@VaughanMcCue 2 ай бұрын
@@AreEnTee I am sure your comment has fallacious thinking, but I can remember its description. Mythical stories like this originate in Greek and other ancient traditions. Is wishing for a return to the health of a sick child materialistic? If I pray that my bank robbery goes to plan and I succeed, as long as I am thankful to my chosen god, will you and Zeus be happy?
@AreEnTee
@AreEnTee 2 ай бұрын
@VaughanMcCue i would say wishing for health is not materialistic, but robbing a bank is. If you rob a bank, you are robbing other people's money that's not yours. Whereas wishing for health is completely different scenario compared to a bank robbery And I am sorry for my ignorance, can you tell me why my comment might have fallacious thinking?
@VaughanMcCue
@VaughanMcCue 2 ай бұрын
@@AreEnTee Health is material because we can see and feel the results by measurement. For example, a cure for a fever would show that the infection has gone because the bacteria will be dead under a microscope, and the body temperature will return to normal. Robbing a bank is no different than church leaders tricking gullible and poor people into giving 'god' their money and the pastor (god's self-appointed manager) using the money for whatever he wants. Banks charge interest but do not give it to the poor like in Prov 28:8, but a bank robber who steals and gives to the poor IS doing their god's work. The fallacy is Affirming the Consequent, but I am a unsure. Chat GBT:- Imagine you have a rule: "If it rains, the ground gets wet." Now, someone might see wet ground and think, "Ah, it must have rained!" But here's the thing: Just because the ground is wet doesn't mean it rained. Maybe someone watered the plants, or there was a leaky pipe. So, affirming the consequent fallacy is when you assume that because something happened. (the ground is wet), the initial condition must have happened, too (it must have rained). However, there could be other reasons for the result besides the initial condition. There is something you might like to think about. What test do you or any believer use to verify that their actions are what their god wants? It would appear as though that person is claiming to know the mind of their god. I believe that is true because everyone invents a god that suits themselves. Some real Christians think Saturday is the correct holy day, and others believe it is Sunday. If they are both correct, then you have to accept all the different rules that every Christian denomination adopts, such as approved foods, yes or no to blood transfusions, yes or no to polygamy, etcetera. For a perfect book, the bible is undoubtedly a source of great confusion. 1Cor 14:16
@richbozzi3148
@richbozzi3148 4 ай бұрын
As time goes on , Hitchens became more irrelevant in his word salads with “ eloquence”
@invictusunum4808
@invictusunum4808 4 ай бұрын
When Hitchens said "Unchallengable Dictatorship", he was talking about how believers *think* it is unchallengable or how they think it should be unchallengable. From Hitchens' perspective, it is perfectly challengable; not ironic.
@kiamm_2620
@kiamm_2620 4 ай бұрын
This is amazing God bless you all. Jesus is King!!!
@maryw9841
@maryw9841 4 ай бұрын
God Himself is the good itself. Bad people can cruxify the good for the reason which the bad thinks very good. But at last it is God who will judge each one, the good and the bad. Hope all the people to open their eyes to see and the believe in God! Abel lives in God even after having been killed by Cain, but Cain dies in Hell. So finally, the real miserable is not the good, but the bad. The only way out for the bad is to stop doing bad.But without the help of God, the bad cannot stop doing bad based on their evil and stupid nature. Only after they can believe in and obey Jesus, the Holy Spirit will guide , help and discpline them, and then they are saved from sins, which keep them far away from the real good, but addicted in the bad.
@tristankomara5284
@tristankomara5284 2 ай бұрын
I really have a lot of love for brother Lennox. I watch debates a lot especially with William Lane Craig, Frank Turek, and the other great Christian apologists but Lennox is special. He really emphasizes and magnifies Christ, the gosepl, and the love of God like no one else can in an intellectual debate.
@SabbathSOG
@SabbathSOG 4 ай бұрын
Gods Mercy... 22. It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. 23. They are * new every morning * great is thy faithfulness. lamentations 3:22 KJV
@WayneDomingo-Sambrano-xe4ff
@WayneDomingo-Sambrano-xe4ff 3 ай бұрын
Love that scripture
@martinedalo5595
@martinedalo5595 4 ай бұрын
God is coming and look out. God loves us and doesn't promise a perfect life here only in heaven. Also he can't come here because of free will. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@Pedagogstudent
@Pedagogstudent 4 ай бұрын
Lennox is so important for the Christians. We pray: may he stay in good health and live a long life in the name of jesus amen.
@ricobonifacio1095
@ricobonifacio1095 2 ай бұрын
Lennox never ceases to amaze me with his God given wisdom and revelation.
@user-vl1st5yb3q
@user-vl1st5yb3q 26 күн бұрын
What makes Mr Lennox believe he’s picked the one true god of the thousands made by man
@JazzyArtKL
@JazzyArtKL 3 ай бұрын
Lennox has never ever given any evidence for his God, yet has the audicity to strawman Hitchens.
@michaellowe2305
@michaellowe2305 4 ай бұрын
I'm sure everyone will be saying the same thing and lennox obviously hit on it. But after the fall of man the entire point was that we could NOT , make ourselves well. We cannot fix ourselves and was why Jesus provided the grace for us
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
The fall of man is made up to justify the failings of their made up God.
@michaellowe2305
@michaellowe2305 4 ай бұрын
@@kos-mos1127 why do you believe that
@kladies3021
@kladies3021 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127So I have an honest question. So we both seem to agree that this world is in a fallen or imperfect state. Do you believe that evolution has failed because it couldn't come up with the perfect world? How does evolution overcome the problem of suffering, people harming one another and death?
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
@@kladies3021 I do not believe the world is fallen. I just said the fall of men was made up to justify their man made God.
@kladies3021
@kladies3021 4 ай бұрын
​​@@kos-mos1127Ok, so you don't define it as fallen. So what is the evolutionist or atheists prescription for suffering, death, or people committing heinous crimes against one another? I've been trying to understand how one with an atheistic mind thinks outside of your lack of beliefs in God.
@willyct207
@willyct207 4 ай бұрын
Mankind is in rebellion against their MAKER as the Bible predicted!!
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 4 ай бұрын
God does go away if you want him to. The father of the prodigal son let him go to live on his own for as long as he wanted. It was only when the son came back that the father ran to meet him. And God will go away forever if that's what you truly desire. That's what hell is, the absence of God. He doesn't "punish you", he gives you what you truly want even if it pains him to do so.
@ben0298
@ben0298 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens was a very good entertainer and orator. It says a lot, that his speeches are still being critiqued years after his death.
@alisterrebelo9013
@alisterrebelo9013 4 ай бұрын
Notice how no one or not many critiques Martin Luther King Jnr. speeches. Two of the reasons are because MLK Jnr. spoke truth with love and did not mischaracterize his opponents, which is quite unlike Mr. Hitchens caricature/strawman of God as the 1984 Big Brother.
@ben0298
@ben0298 4 ай бұрын
@@alisterrebelo9013 I agree with the straw man point. A lot of his arguments are superficial and emotive, rather than having great substance.
@reality1958
@reality1958 4 ай бұрын
@@ben0298Hitchens was a well spoken atheist for sure
@Cre8tvMG
@Cre8tvMG 4 ай бұрын
He was an entertainer, but also a moron.
@ryanawilson8549
@ryanawilson8549 4 ай бұрын
Everything that began will end
@kos-mos1127
@kos-mos1127 4 ай бұрын
And then began again.
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward 4 ай бұрын
LOL
@bassmanjr100
@bassmanjr100 4 ай бұрын
​@@kos-mos1127How so?
@donblaise
@donblaise 3 ай бұрын
To really know God is to love him.
@josephsarto689
@josephsarto689 4 ай бұрын
Lennox doesn’t have a very good answer to the final question. A better respomse would be “how do you know good from evil to begin with”
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz 4 ай бұрын
As a young adult when I was examining different worldviews, I found atheism lacked a basis for purpose or morality. At best it had an expression of like/dislike or selection by survival of the fittest. The best and most honest explanations/proponents of atheism come to that conclusion. I rejected that view based on presupposition, there is real morality and purpose in the universe, humanity, and my own personal existence. I may not have had the philosophical arguments to explain it at the time, but I could see the consequences of such a worldview and its conflict with reality. There are of course other issues and factors that favor theism, but this issue alone was enough to convince me as a young adult.
@therick363
@therick363 4 ай бұрын
Neither atheism or theism say or do or hold any other views or stances beyond one thing-is there any gods?
@Ryan-gx4ce
@Ryan-gx4ce 4 ай бұрын
Atheism is not a belief system. Of course it has no moral framework. It's like asking what is your moral framework as an a-unicornist? How does that frame your morality? It doesn't. And neither does atheism
@TurinTuramber
@TurinTuramber 4 ай бұрын
I see your error. You were evaluating different worldviews based on personal expediency and utility when you should really have judged them on evidence and rationality. You abandoned truth because deep down you just wanted a magic genie.
@Nathan-vt1jz
@Nathan-vt1jz 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@TurinTuramber Morality and purpose are not merely utilities of a worldview, they are central aspects to truth, life, and meaning. Atheism cannot say why it is objectively wrong to torture a child. It fails a basic truth test.
@TurinTuramber
@TurinTuramber 4 ай бұрын
@@Nathan-vt1jz Atheism isn't a social justice framework, just means there are no compelling argument for any Gods. Simple actually. Funny to me how the people pretending to have objective morality decreed by God are the same people that will partially cut off an infant's penis and offer it up as a literal blood sacrifice. They then tell their children for years that they will burn in hellfire for eternity if they don't enter into their superstitious cult and then have the temerity to lecture atheists about their "superior" objective morality regarding torturing children.
@josephcauthen9448
@josephcauthen9448 4 ай бұрын
I didn't see much of an argument from Lennox. His argument for God is predicated on the existence of revelation, Jesus being who he said he is, and his personal relationship with God. These aren't falsifiable and can't be a basis for a rational argument.
@braverwords
@braverwords 4 ай бұрын
Jesus's claims are falsifiable. He either is God, or He is not, and the test for His claims is this, Did Jesus rise from the dead? If the answer is yes, then He is God, if no, He is not. There is plenty of evidence outside the Bible proving Jesus of Nazareth was a real man who lived during the first century as a traveling Jewish teacher. And we know he was executed via crucifixion by the Roman government. The only question left then is did he rise from the dead after his execution. I would encourage you to research the historical evidence for yourself and reach your own conclusions, (as I don't really think anyone has ever been convinced of anything by SOME GUY in the comments of a KZbin video, so listing uncited evidence/claims here and potentially getting sucked into a debate/argument would be a fruitless use of both our times).
@thomaswayneward
@thomaswayneward 4 ай бұрын
Most of the life of a human being is not falsifiable. Rational arguments are rare and mean a lot less to humans. You are squeezing the world into a small box so you can make life a lot more simple. Reality is hard to deal with, but humans do it every day without utilizing "rational arguments".
@stevendwyer3652
@stevendwyer3652 4 ай бұрын
Exceptionally well said
@pantsdown6567
@pantsdown6567 3 ай бұрын
Yes they can but you don't investigae. Or get to know
@jtodd19
@jtodd19 Ай бұрын
Perhaps. I must say CH didn't do anything to support his argument. Just ranted.
@traced5900
@traced5900 3 ай бұрын
Why are people so eager to prove there is no God. Why are they worried about us believing in God? What does this accomplish? You don’t believe, move on, do you. It’s gonna be sad when they find out there is a God and He will be praised. Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess. Hallelujah, amen!
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 3 ай бұрын
You ask "why are people so eager to prove there is no God" - and then answer your own question with a disturbing rant about the post-death fate of everybody that dares to doubt you. "You don’t believe, move on, do you" - you say. But why can't you follow your own advice? It's because you secretly know it's all a wishful-thinking delusion - which is why you overreact to any challenge - your interlocutors can't just be wrong, they have to burn in Hell just so you can live forever in Heaven (!?). It's called Narcissistic-Grandiose Personality Disorder and you are possessed by an especially vile, poisonous version of it.
@pebbleoverpond
@pebbleoverpond 3 ай бұрын
Giving free will and personal choice is the opposite of being tyrannical.
@demej00
@demej00 4 ай бұрын
Hitchens seemed so angry, Lennox seems so calm and non-judgemental and kind. Hitchens does not display love for humanity but hatred for his idea of a vengeful father. Lennox shows a loving God for a fallen material world.
@jordandesmet6593
@jordandesmet6593 4 ай бұрын
Yep, says it all. He looks all sweaty and angry cuz he ain’t got God 😂 poor guy
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 4 ай бұрын
If you went to a different country where they believed in the flying spaghetti monster and told you over and over that you are going in the boiling lake of marinara because you don't believe. Told you the marriage you are in was wrong because your eye color doesn't match. Forced your kid to believe that the universe was made of spaghetti. All with zero evidence.. you would be angry too.
@philipmitchener28
@philipmitchener28 4 ай бұрын
@@hasone1848 That fails the genetic fallacy test. Also, the fact that that recently over 200 Muslims in the Middle East had the same dream about Jesus coming to them and came to Christ is significant because Muslims pray for their god (Allah) to reveal himself in their dreams. The fact they prayed for their god to reveal himself to them and Jesus was the one who was revealed says a lot. You might say, well they could have planned this, but also remember that Islam has the apostate laws that declare if anyone leaves Islam, they are to be put to death, meaning that the only motivation that they could have to face certain death is the truth.
@harryrun3754
@harryrun3754 Ай бұрын
The universe is speghetiti and it's inside all my holes.
@Misael-Hernandez
@Misael-Hernandez Ай бұрын
​@@hasone1848and so we are all made to worship, the only problem is that many will come to the conclusion that it is best to follow man made stories like the spaghetti monster and refuse to follow the one true God so as to not admit that he/she was fooled.
@questioneverything2845
@questioneverything2845 3 ай бұрын
"Religion is man-made and it shows. It shows very well indeed." - Christopher Hitchens
@Misael-Hernandez
@Misael-Hernandez Ай бұрын
That religion is man made and some choose to follow man, while others choose to follow the one true God. Indeed, religion is man made, because God became like us and dwelt amongst us to lead us to the Father, not belittling our humanity but raising it up to a high esteem so as to be worthy of praise and honor. Yet we choose to follow man rather than God, who gave us back our dignity.
@carlandre8610
@carlandre8610 Ай бұрын
Thank you mr. Hitchens for your thoughts, if they echo anyone else with the same frame of mind. Mr. Lennox gives a wonderful explanation of a loving God because of your gross misscharacturation of God. You opened the door for the truth to be expounded against your backdrop of anger and angst despite your flowery speech. Thanks again for proving God that much more. Thank you Dr. Lennox
@KeptForJesus
@KeptForJesus 2 ай бұрын
Amen amen amen!! Praise the Lord God Almighty
@coreyi.634
@coreyi.634 3 ай бұрын
Yes, God loves people so much that he condemns them to eternal torture if they don’t worship and love him.
@DrDoomsday-bi1el
@DrDoomsday-bi1el Ай бұрын
He created you and has dominion and power over you. You rejected and committed many grave offences towards him so you will get what you brought to yourself. His wrath. Every good thing that has happened to you is from him yet you reject him. Of course if he is just he would not let you do that.
@DrDoomsday-bi1el
@DrDoomsday-bi1el Ай бұрын
He deserves all worship and love and yet you reject him. He created you and yet you reject him. Every good thing that has ever happened to you even the fact that you woke up this morning is because of him. You rejection of offence against a holy and just God will bring you his wrath. I wish that you would realize this and repent of your sins however it is likely you won't. I still hope though and so does God.
@coreyi.634
@coreyi.634 Ай бұрын
@@DrDoomsday-bi1el hopefully one day you realize how evil your religion is and how warped it has made your brain. Your own Bible described god having countless children murdered (1 Samuel 15) and women by the tens of thousands being forced to marry Jewish soldiers after their families were murdered by them at God’s command (Numbers 31). Your god is evil and fake.
@simphiwengindana8126
@simphiwengindana8126 Ай бұрын
🤔 Imagine a woman how spend all of her life with a man whom she doesn't live? No chooseing God is to say u don't love him so I think it's in you best interest that you spend your life away and free from him. I see that a more loving he's truly a good God who respect our decisions. The world hell exactly mean life without God isn't that you want?
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