Atheists and Christians Debate Truth And Belief | Middle Ground

[@twiceseventeen]

The atheist lady wearing purple and the asian christian guy are the most open and tolerant ones here

[@bagel8383]

violentroll, I agree, the others don’t really want to listen, they just want to argue, but the purple shirt women kind of laughed sometimes which kind of annoyed me sometimes.

[@gaminglegend]

Well, the Asian Christian guy was atheist only a short while before this video...

[@menchacism5327]

@@gaminglegend what does that have to do with it?

[@gaminglegend]

@@menchacism5327 He can kinda see both sides

[@amaka.06]

@@menchacism5327 he can see both sides of the point sir

[@lubtearts8985]

That Asian guy is so awesome, he’s not stubborn about what he believes and is willing to listen to the other side whether he likes it or not.

[@ghydghg5030]

Lub Tearts the old guy was better you only like the Asian guy because he was siding with the aethiests for some topics

[@lubtearts8985]

Gh Ydghg lol

[@aqeelhussain8752]

Gh Ydghg the Asian guy was hopeless! He's a believer yet it seemed as if he was siding with the athiests. Atleast the old man had a strong belief, faith and passion for his opinions.

[@lubtearts8985]

Aqeel Hussain n1

[@aqeelhussain8752]

Lub Tearts ?

[@izzyykatherine]

I want to see this done again with teenage christians and athiests

[@sunkissedserenity2115]

YES

[@Thebigcoffee]

Y e s

[@Thebigcoffee]

Boys let's get this to happen

[@comfort1569]

Agreed

[@oniichan4life320]

Perfect

[@betuel8158]

Can't believe they brought Benjamin Franklin back to life for this one

[@elliefuller3667]

Omfg I thought I was the only one who thought he looks like Benjamin Franklin 😭😭

[@chazzilla8919]

Bro this guy looks like he has burned at least one witch at the stake

[@acfkelly6291]

Ben Franklin was agnostic

[@elliefuller3667]

@@acfkelly6291 based Ben Franklin

[@sexymonkeyman5850]

@@iangochenour158 I sont know much about past presidents beliefs so I'm not going to argue but why did you quote "your wrong"

[@Kovukingsrod]

That old man annoyed me so much. If you want someone to listen to you, you need to listen to them as well.

[@piperandrews9396]

I agree with you so much! I also love your channel!

[@dogwater4126]

Yes

[@ariannaroberts4882]

That’s what I’m saying

[@aidana7181]

Cinnamon The Cat not facts, agnostics claim neither disbelief nor belief in god, she claimed disbelief in god making her by definition an atheist.

[@aidana7181]

Cinnamon The Cat he said quote “an agnostic believes in the supernatural it just doesn’t believe in god.” that’s incorrect. he does not know the true definition. agnostic people don’t deny or believe in the existence of god. atheists lack belief or do not believe in god. so no he does not know the true definition. also anybody can write a book.

[@skylarbetts7349]

As an atheist I have such respect for the Christian guy in the plaid shirt, he was compassionate and was actually listening instead of interrogating the other people

[@spirithalloween3828]

Skylar Betts finally someone who doesn't fucks christains

[@cenedictbumberbatch95]

JMTeen13 Munoz Christians*

[@scottnetter982]

Skylar Betts Thanks, not all of us are like Jeremy

[@ly6208]

Being a Catholic in all my 17 years of life, I've been taught scripture and tradition to the point where it's all just common knowledge and habit for me and it has become my ultimate truth. However, I'm also aware that this isn't everyone's truth and the things that my faith believes in and has been teaching for years isn't accepted as factual by many. Peter, to me, was very relatable and a good example of how a conversation about faith and belief (which is one of the touchiest topics in my opinion) should be approached and handled. He never imposed his beliefs on the other participants and opted to just listen and politely raise some of his inputs and opinions during the discussion. James on the other hand, was very passionate about Christianity which really isn't a bad thing in the slightest. In fact, it's great that he's so proud of his beliefs but how he interjected people and practically shoved his personal truths in the faces of the non believers was incredibly disrespectful. It's important to be true to your own faith but it's also important to respect other people's beliefs and be open minded enough to accept that not everyone shares your truths and understands things the way you do.

[@senoramerico8622]

S K while I understand what you mean when you say different people's truths, there is only one correct ultimate truth. The problem for everybody is their confidence in their conclusions. The religious position about deities isn't supported by the evidence but is continually thrust forward like it's a given. Overly confident conclusions without evidence coming down the tubes over the years do not a god prove. Atheism requires fewer assumptions about knowable reality. I agree with your analysis of how each christian conversed.

[@anistong]

My aspiration is to be as respectful as that Asian man. He was respectful of others opinions and still stood by his. What an amazing man.

[@newbsterland]

Aspire to be respectful? Isn’t that a choice? Admit it u just want dat Asian dik, this is me choosing to be respectful

[@anistong]

John Doe it's hard to be respectful to someone who does not share the same opinion as you so yes it is a choice but it can be difficult to choose that option when faced with conflict. (:

[@ohnsonposhka9891]

The two young Christians were respectful but weak in evangelizing or in defending the faith with apologetics.

[@missnova4850]

Aniston Grace I think why he can do that because he once had in that situation " religion journey situation" that made him atheist for a while then back again in Christian faith

[@BlackStar-hy1iy]

John michael Meow?

[@Child_Of_God_06]

I think it’s impossible that a Christian has never once doubted higher power, I am a 100% Christian, and in my life I have had doubts. there’s moments when a Christian has had those doubts.

[@jayde8252]

You have to start somewhere. I think that most people have to research and learn different religions before they can officially say "I'm all for it!" Or "I'm all against it!" And like you, I'm also Christian and I've also had my doubts in the past.

[@cpiep]

I've never had doubts. But I think we all struggle with the idea that so many people will probably go to hell. Especially if people we care about are not on the right path.

[@jayde8252]

@@prod.deathwish Um, that's why we said we "used" to have our doubts. No need to bring another fellow Christian down.

[@JustAPintOfMilk]

@@cpiep you are a Protestant right?

[@devontemack1753]

Yeah dude honestly, I’ve definitely had mines, but I’ve done my research and now I can say I’m Baptist and I’ll never question my faith. Just some people and their pov don’t really sit with me, and would not too often have me questioning my faith, but if you can’t even prove morality or how the Big Bang was created than I can’t throw away my faith from what their opinions based on

[@tomruljancich5171]

I read the comments before watching the video - now I can’t wait to see the old guy

[@eve9077]

Lol i did the exact same thing

[@sydney8612]

Eve907 same 😂🤪

[@simonO712]

Same here x)

[@Prisoner]

Yeah, reading the comments give me an idea about how worthwhile is the video

[@sophielavender9790]

Omg same

[@michaelasuorsa]

I love the young guy he’s understanding

[@camille19691]

Michaela Suorsa I read it as the "old guy" and almost flipped out

[@gracethome6959]

He has an accepting warmth to him. He’s what I grew up thinking of as a good Christian, he aims to be kind and open and do better.

[@vanhoot2234]

I am along the same lines as him.. I have struggled with faith but I also believe its also important to be open to others points of view. I am not God so I don't know what ultimately is or isn't.

[@vanhoot2234]

The old guy needs to chill though

[@adrianlindafhageby468]

@@camille19691 I liked the old man though, he was a barrel of laughs. Though I agree it might be rude to disrupt discussion for a comedy break.

[@imstillmelol2299]

When old man said "its not a belief its a fact" I knew there would only be tension from now on.

[@mbond3512]

My neighbor said that today.😅 I said "You're free to believe what you want" and she says "no, I KNOW it to be the truth"

[@XxANGELTEARxX8]

it is true, eventually everyone will find out!

[@user-wy1ys8xf6l]

@@XxANGELTEARxX8 you can only believe that it’s true but you don’t truly know.

[@benjadoo]

@@user-wy1ys8xf6l yep we only have our faith until that day

[@jackfeider8487]

@@XxANGELTEARxX8 It is not a fact until you have proof. It may be true to you but until you have evidence, it is not a fact!

[@songbird6414]

The dead silence after “it’s not a belief it’s a fact” spoke louder than anything they could have said

[@ILovePink-x1v]

They where looking at him like he was crazy 😭🤚

[@melaniemars155]

Yeah but why didn’t the other Christians not say they agree? It’s giving lukewarm

[@malaikawebb5675]

@@melaniemars155because it’s not a fact and can’t be backed with objective evidence

[@malaikawebb5675]

@@melaniemars155they’re called “believers “ for a reason

[@lightbeforethetunnel]

It was the wisest choice on their end, because had they tried to rebut him they would have been exposed as the fools they are. But by choosing to remain silent, they don't expose their own stupidity... AND many uninformed viewers interpret silence as an actual rebuttal.

[@Briosification]

The old guy completely missed the entire point of this. It wasn't to debate and argue, whether or not there is a god, it was to explain their perspectives and ideas.

[@fishels3895]

I agree. It was so bad they should have a do over

[@lcsquad.]

Why not?

[@lcsquad.]

That’s what I was click baited for

[@ea-tr1jh]

Yes, I am a Christian and I admitedly got a little angry. Not only was he being rude, but I was worried that Christians would be stereotyped because of his rude behavior.

[@samh6695]

No the title says that they are debating truth and belief

[@rhysstanley7387]

The Asian dude was very respectful allowing them to all speak without confronting their information they were providing even if he disagreed of what they were providing to the group

[@jecitivaz3097]

People that come from one background into another are usually more understanding

[@eliasia7145]

Old man: God is real Atheist: Well, personally I think... Old man: *I have spoken*

[@alncrts4936]

Elias IA The atheists weren’t chill either tho

[@eliasia7145]

@@alncrts4936 everyone was speaking from both perspectives. The old man though was very defensive and argumentative.

[@lovingmydior]

I don’t agree completely BUT in the Bible it states to scream it from the mountain tops and just let everyone know. Spread the word about God. So... I get it. I understand him in that way.

[@eliasia7145]

@ルカ it's ok to think it's facts, I mean you either believe in God or you don't. But he doesn't want to listen to others is all

[@maxluong2]

Cue mandalor theme

[@jakejohnson1453]

After he said "I'm just giving facts", that woman's face is how i felt this entire video.

[@SStupendous]

I'm a theist, and yet I have to agree.

[@jakesabean]

He was explaining the definition of atheist as it contradicted her beliefs. She is agnostic by definition

[@tosuchino6465]

@@jakesabean No, her definition of atheism is the correct one. She could be an agnostic atheist. His definition is another type of atheism (I forgot what it's called). The point is that atheism encompasses both types.

[@bozabati3984]

@@jakesabean it is still atheism

[@jakesabean]

@@bozabati3984 incorrect

[@jesseml4303]

it's awkward because everyone in that room hated the old guy 😂

[@sandraschenk603]

Jesse Ml I hated him too lol

[@zeIilah]

His voice is so annoying 💀

[@evelina9815]

True! But he was wise to back off after he himself was getting pretty offended; he is a lot more educated than the others, anyhow.

[@Sophia-hn8if]

Yes hahaa

[@alepartidav.7664]

Ryan Ramsay she is saying it was wise for him to back off, which I totally agree, but seeing the way he acts on the comment section, he is definitely NOT more educated than the rest

[@SkepticAdrian]

That old man came to preach, not have a discussion.

[@mystory3998]

LMAKSHDJAJ

[@sunsetclips5434]

Yoo same last name as me

[@radachelkollie4048]

First Impression We have closed minds (being a conservative Christian) because we don’t need to be influenced by society (this world). We are called to be apart of it. We don’t “aggressively” force our religion.. we tell it as it is. There’s a reason why other religions don’t spread their beliefs... because those are just BELIEFS. We Christians know our religion is the truth. We spread the gospel in urgency because those who are unbelievers are ignorant on the subject and need to know about God before it’s too late.

[@harrybade8315]

@@radachelkollie4048 thats literally what all the other religions say. What makes yours any different?

[@radachelkollie4048]

First Impression It’s honestly my truth. I’m not simple minded. I just believe what God says. Period. You ty tying to tell me other wise is not going to change my views/ mindset.

[@yaboievan4055]

As an agnostic atheist I respect Peter aka the Asian guy, as he is very respectful and open minded.

[@randomnigga1837]

You uave achived perfection with 69 likes

[@Taschip]

I wish all Christians were like that. Most these days just preach and force their beliefs on others.

[@hazzah274]

@@Taschip is that just in America or? Because where im from in New Zealand its way different

[@Taschip]

@@hazzah274 It's big in America and Europe.

[@slamacatgt4296]

@@Taschip racism is bad right? America should make a rule about these obnoxious forcing Christians.

[@ginsengarizona1370]

“an agnostic is someone who believes” you have defied the definition of agnosticism in so many ways

[@indeedConfirmed]

😂 fr

[@KKNOWSYOU]

It’s the exact opposite lol

[@prod.deathwish]

Exactly she literally use the definition of an agnostic then got mad when the guy called her out on it lol

[@darayy6352]

@@prod.deathwish lol fr

[@SStupendous]

Exactly lol

[@whykoffee4635]

When the old guy said "it's not a belief it's a fact" Everybody was like:👁👄👁

[@jaimesalazar4759]

it is a fact tho

[@bullettime1116]

@@jaimesalazar4759 nonnononononon

[@xenosuper4702]

It kinda is a fact

[@William_Burns]

Santiago Gil citation needed

[@theultimatebiblebeliever4448]

♡︎ 𝗆𝗂𝖺 𝗆𝗈𝗌𝖺 ♥︎ Hi, I’ll pray for you. 😊

[@notimportant9360]

Old man - talks Everyone - 😐

[@nightnday6675]

Its not a view its fact. Dont call yourself something and not know what the definition is. The old guy was right in calling her out and for someone on a committee for Atheist you should know the difference..

[@smolboye1878]

What is a fact?

[@nathanielmathews2617]

Night NDay Atheism is the lack of belief of a higher power, that is a fact. Agnosticism is the belief that there may or may not be a god. If you don't believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster you aren't saying that you believe there might not be one, but you see zero evidence for it and thus do not conclude it to be real. Atheism is the same, most atheists acknowledge that they may be wrong, but there is zero evidence and thus they have no belief in a god.

[@smolboye1878]

Agreed. I didn't know what he was referring to.

[@cactusquinn_fren]

that guy is literally squidward

[@jonnuanez2843]

Any parent who uses the "you're going to Hell" line is using manipulative tactics to get what *they* want. Period.

[@wachyfanning]

That's kind of the idea of hell

[@softvtae]

​@@wachyfanningmost christians who say that have most likely been preached the wrong thing, or there is something seriously messed up with them.

[@carissaewhite]

exactly my parents are raising me in a christian home and they have NEVER said that to me

[@ginothecrusader9301]

@@softvtae Interesting fact. Hell was never once mentioned in the Bible. I believe that he’ll is just nothingness. You are no more. No more soul. No more self.

[@Manu-gq5ke]

I will tell them you are going to hell for telling me I’m going to hell.

[@Arch-lv7oe]

Peter was ridiculously respectful I am a atheist but he is the best kind of Christian

[@gamestar8180]

I go to Peter's church. A lot of us are like that which is what I love about our community. The way Jeremy spoke seem very Evangelical Christian while Peter's was more in line with traditional Protestant Christian.

[@kendricklamar56]

Yeah you like him because there's 0 conviction

[@atrociousalien]

@@kendricklamar56 He seemed firmly held in his beliefs he just wasn’t belligerent about it, he was tactful.

[@Slsof]

watch haitham talaat videos

[@tacoconnoisseur5043]

he's not the "best" kind of christian because there is no "best" christian because everyone is inherently sinful

[@NLopez811]

I don't think that old man wanted to find a middle ground....it seemed to me he wanted to convince everyone else that he was right.

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

N. Lopez but he wrote two books where he gives the whole history of the Earth.

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

Fortricity Christianity is the real religion.

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

what do you think is more accurate? Mathematics or Christianity revelation?

[@NLopez811]

@@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550 They are probably published by a christian publishing company. I would actually like to take a look at them to see how he conducted his findings and whether it is just theories.

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

but if they are a hundred and fifty pages each oh, it's likely more like a study guide which you have to go check in to see if there's even any connection between one event and the next. herein we find the outlandish philosophies. then again, being the Christian that he seems to be, it is likely an account from Genesis to the Roman Empire to the British Empire to today. with a few maps and names of historical and foreign countries.

[@youhavelice446]

Old man: *says anything* Everyone else:😐

[@annieives664]

When the old man and the atheist lady were arguing..and the Christian lady in the black smacked her forehead..I felt that

[@quinnleynorton2113]

7:49 for people wanting to find it

[@salometipsandtricks2786]

Dear christian women of the world please if you find yourself hidding some Christians from the authority. Please put a headcovering and pray to have you and the christian you are hidding to be teleported away with even your house if you want. It is possible I have dreamt of it happening in the future. So don't fear or surrender or lie. Just be honest pray to Jesus and be protected. Tell every christian you know to do this. Even if you have no gas or money just pray and state you want to be teleported to north of zion. To the location stated in pslam. Just do it and pass on the message. Make sure before you put your request to ask for forgiveness first of your sins and to repent of any you have done. Don't fear be bold and ask. Matthew 7:7. Love y'all. Peace and hugs.

[@johnrebelet5754]

he wasnt wrong though

[@johnrebelet5754]

@Milan Toth atheist dont believe in any godly super natural. the old man was telling the truth.

[@alenizi07]

@@salometipsandtricks2786 did u smoke crack?

[@benjaminmangum]

The old guy is the embodiment of "old" age. He's so engrained in his ideologies and opinions that if something shook his perspective it would diminish or destroy his life and everything he stands for. It's hard to be open minded when you are afraid to die knowing your wrong/ideas aren't important.

[@cosmicnomad8575]

That’s true, I can only hope to work to become more open-minded, even in old age in the far future. But what you said makes sense for the majority of people.

[@acemxe8472]

Ad hominem aren’t refutations.

[@pleaseno4862]

Never mind I just finished the last quarter of the video yeah he’s pretty much wrong. Don’t force Christianity nor atheism on anyone

[@Ertto54]

Soon the world will end. Then everybody will know

[@winterfire591]

@@Ertto54 by soon you mean in the next million years

[@missylarsson3517]

Old guy: “Our knowledge is imperfect” Also old guy: “I have the FACTS!”

[@andrewwoodger1180]

Sydney Ayala how do you know the Bible is right? Because you read it? Because your family read it? Because your pasture read it? How do you explain the inconsistencies of the Bible? And who are you to say what’s right and wrong? How come just because some book was written a long time ago, everyone assumes an all-nighter creator wrote it? And why do so many people consider this books word law?

[@andrewwoodger1180]

All-mighty* My bad

[@scarybusey]

@@cynsydia God is real because he wrote the bible and in the bible it says God is real. And God is real because he wrote the bible and in the bible it says God is real. And God is real because he wrote the bible and in the bible it says God is real. And God is real because he wrote the bible and in the bible it says God is real.

[@jediahlaplanche4334]

Andrew Woodger there aren’t inconsistencies in the Bible..🤦🏽‍♂️

[@scarybusey]

@@jediahlaplanche4334 seriously? 🤣🤣🤣

[@selahel7272]

Atheist: breathes Jeremy, raising from the grave: MY NAME IS JEREMY AND IM HERE TO MAKE IT CLEAR

[@shimmy8818]

Say say true

[@kostas8537]

I'm Roxxxy Andrews and I'm here to make it clear

[@th231]

Well Guess What Mimi We Did I know you love me baby, that’s why you brought me here

[@joshhtaver]

Was the bitch on season 5

[@kysunbae]

I’m gonna make it right. Give me a sewing challenge and I’ll get you watchu like.

[@adude2154]

"does pineapple belong on pizza" *Thats deep*

[@evanraymond8728]

What does that mean? 😂

[@johanne8260]

I actually like that mix

[@cypher3143]

ADude21 truth. Because i love pineapples on pizza but I don’t think that it is only meant to be eaten on a pizza. I can eat it by itself, or eat it in a meal. Try pininyahang manok y’all!!!

[@joelalexander5338]

ADude21 I agree. They should have stayed on that topic. Imagine the implications if it’s true!

[@dustinalecxander8647]

Why is deepdish even considered a pizza just like canadian bacon being considered as bacon

[@rayraytb]

For me as an atheist, I have lots of very religious Muslim friends. Sometimes we question each other’s beliefs or lack of. Questioning religions should be normalized as long as it is respectful.

[@justkallmej2983]

It should, I wish we could all find common ground

[@Kingofthenet2]

I agree, it makes my beliefs even stronger and tests my faith.

[@karthikmd1031]

Stay safe.

[@nuclearclarity3778]

If I were to debate with a Christian, I would want to debate with someone like the Asian man. Do you wanna know why? The old man said he’s never doubted god, meaning he was presumably raised Christian. The Asian man said he used to hate Christians and then chose to become one. The old man was presented with the idea of God when he was young and impressionable, and Christianity was introduced as fact immediately. He has devoted his whole life to God, and he is stubborn about his ways because he doesn’t want to consider that his entire life could have been a lie. The Asian man chose faith. God was presented to him as a choice, and he chose to believe. He, at one point, had to contemplate whether or not he believed, and had a logical reason to decide to believe. God was not shoved down his throat. People like the Asian man will be able to give you an actual reason that they think is enough to prove that God exists. People like the old man have never contemplated why they think God exists- He was shoved down their throat- so they won’t be able to give you proof for they have none. That is why this old man is simply screaming at people and forcing them to accept god as truth without giving any proof.

[@katelinishere1484]

Brynn Rumfallo it doesn't mean he was raised Christian because he doesnt doupt, Iv been raised Christian my whole life and I doupt more than l like to admit.

[@kpoptrash291]

Brynn Rumfallo lol his name is Peter

[@FutonJohn]

I love this comment but ffs man call the guy by his first name lol

[@crystalwaters6556]

Katelin ussery By the way, it is spelt doubt. :)

[@thegirlwiththepixie5374]

Brynn Rumfallo well said Brynn.... are you the real Brynn from dance moms?

[@hypernova9363]

Old man: DING DONG YOU"RE OPINON IS WRONG

[@eeeeee7389]

Lol

[@rodprops]

opinion*

[@alannacrystal]

*your

[@eeeeee7389]

alannacrystal you’re*

[@greta4503]

@@eeeeee7389 you're means you are, your is correct.

[@T_Cup]

Everyone in the comments: We need more Christians like "That Asian Guy", what an amazing human. Also everyone: Unable to remember that his name is Peter.

[@DaoWoW]

To be fair, half of the comments are calling the old guy, old guy, and not by his name either lol

[@T_Cup]

@@DaoWoW That is fair. But most people also hated him, so they didn't want to remember his name.

[@kojakbraddy2338]

Athiest can't remember names ,. They can't even remember how they here

[@45zombiemaniac]

@@kojakbraddy2338 Scentists want proof. Believers of god have faith. You can't prove something if it's not accessible. I personally believe in god. But giving scientists the benefit of the doubt is correct. We can't prove it. There's no physical evidence of God's existence. We have a choice in almost everything. We create as we are.

[@kojakbraddy2338]

@@45zombiemaniac there's evidence that god exist , you gotta think , we didn't create our selves , Galaxy didn't create it's self , every thing has a pattern , even before we were created , darkness it's self was created , every thing around us was put here with its own design , that's why god says have faith , and one day those with faith will get to see him , those with out faith will be begging to find death it's self ,

[@junefousek3644]

When he said “ it’s not a belief it’s a fact” I internally died

[@nikipedia2818]

I can't see why they didn't immediately get him to define 'fact', because he was clearly speaking a different language to everyone else.

[@junefousek3644]

@@nikipedia2818 agreed

[@goldyx9487]

He is

[@junefousek3644]

@@m3m437 well I mean everyone has a belief and u can stand by that belief and still think that it isn’t a fact but a belief

[@junefousek3644]

@@m3m437 yes absolutely you can value others beliefs while still being positive about your own

[@nikkineko666]

The Asian guy is awesome! If more people were like him, regardless of where we stood in faith, I think things would be so much better. The old guy was incredibly disrespectful.

[@medinbeqiri8346]

The atheist in green is almost as bad as the religious old man she’s a pure objective atheist that thinks people aren’t born with worth it’s two extremes but everyone else was fine

[@medinbeqiri8346]

Giovante Champion who said they had to be considered valuable by themselves to be considered valuable? Everyone born has the ability to bring value to society,humanity etc therefore everyone is valuable because everyone has the potential to do valuable things she has a nhilsric sense of worth when everyone else agrees that everyone has worth

[@giovantechampion1440]

@@medinbeqiri8346 and she also said that your value can be determined by what you do aswell

[@giovantechampion1440]

@@medinbeqiri8346 5:20 She goes off about individual morals Then she said "i" dont inherently have value Then the Asian man swoops in to bring her main idea to light. 5:59 Who am i to judge Therefore she is not judging peoples values. People determine their own worth. She calls "her" existence worthless. She never claimed everyone is worthless.

[@medinbeqiri8346]

Giovante Champion “I do not think just existing gives a person worth or value” literally a few seconds before everyone else thinks everyone has value

[@madie2769]

Benjamin Franklin gotta chill tf out

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

nice, girl. we could all learn a thing or two from Uncle Ben.

[@JessicaSue]

He’s rolling over in his grave because of that comparison.

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

Madie want to see the facts?

[@hmc.yiyelzedekalphametamor550]

are you holding onto your britches?

[@ddufrane050987]

Gold!!!

[@boa.rodgers4947]

That old guy is the definition of a person that can't have a healthy debate because they believe that their BELIEFS are 100% factual and anyone who disagrees is wrong. What a farce. The other two Christians and the Atheists were engaging in an inspiring debate while he just had to ruin everything with his talking points. Edit: woah honestly expected this to get lost in a sea of comments. Thx :-)

[@IsaacMaganaMusic]

That's not true, she actually said she can't claim God doesn't exist...

[@jutiajulia]

He is the definition of fanaticism

[@nicolew3252]

i think that's part of the Christian faith because it's pushed that absolute faith is the goal and without it then you're not christian

[@boa.rodgers4947]

I mean that's great and all, and I respect that, but that gives no one the right to be an asshole to someone who doesn't agree/believe in that that. It just ruins understanding.

[@boa.rodgers4947]

she really wasn't. I'd respond with a longer comment, but I don't feel like debating with someone whose name is about cream in your holes. :)

[@BadRager599]

That old guy is so toxic it’s actually hilarious. I love the absolutely horrid energy he brought!

[@rickycamilo4488]

pure comedy lmaooo

[@pleaseclap3335]

I found the old man to be quiet arrogant and a bit closeminded. On the other hand, the other 2 Christians seemed respectful and kind. All around a very interesting video!

[@melxnh3ad]

Please Clap legit

[@kristenhoward8850]

I agree, there is passion and then there is dismissing other views altogether. The young lady (whose name i didn't catch) seemed extremely passionate and confident in her views but was always understanding and respectful. Those two were a perfect example of what Christianity should be, and what it has sadly become for many.

[@GorgieClarissa]

that old guy was passing out his bible cards at the end. what a fucking loon

[@raceryod]

Please Clap except the kind xtian type in America Paves the way for the lunacy of the old man types. If you could use reason with logic xtians There wouldn’t be any more xtians

[@raceryod]

Kristen Howard sayin what xtianity should be means it obviously Isn’t. And will never get there because xtians don’t care if what they believe in is true. Just ask them. I do all the time. If a xtian does care if what they believe is true. Ask how did they determine gawd to be true . Watch how low they set the bar on truth and facts. Again I interview those who identify as xtian all the time I can.

[@crayons1584]

"It's not a belief it's a fact" *long silence*

[@Grace-yl9sb]

y u sad lmaoooooo

[@sunchi11]

Fact is not something u believe in by a bible that written by human

[@clarkkent4198]

Seth RoS Which was influenced by God

[@jonathanvasquez348]

supposedly was*

[@Strugglebaddy616]

Why would God have a gender? Only a human would give something a gender like their car, their gun(s) and their imaginary friend. That's like... A funny giveaway TO ME ... Just to me.. it's funny.

[@artisanaltoast9085]

The old guy didn’t contribute to the discussion. He just spent a lot of time telling other people he was right and they were wrong.

[@akira1072]

Lol that's what a lot of old people do

[@hils105]

cause he saying facts 😂 atheists are mad cause he’s right

[@jakergaming7703]

Hilary Molina thats exactly what i was saying. They got mad whenever he said something that was actually from the bible. Most the christians there are what I like to call “feel good” christians which bend the words of the bible and leave out some lines to fit their lifestyle. The bible is a strict book and has strict rules.

[@rolo132]

JakeRGaming and im sure that’s what you and the majority of other christians do. the likeliness of you abiding by everything the bible states is unlikely, and atheists don’t get mad at you for claiming the bible. like the old man, y’all just claim you’re right & other ppl are wrong based on your personal belief.

[@hils105]

JakeRGaming yes you are completely right

[@mollys1439]

wether you are religious or not i think we can all agree the old guy was obnoxious

[@yuichirohanma10]

rude

[@mollys1439]

@@yuichirohanma10 true

[@angryboi595]

Dude was the definition of nice on outside but if you disagree with him he goes full on jerk mode

[@rockysandman5489]

@@angryboi595 He wasn't even that nice.

[@prod.deathwish]

He was right though the lady used the wrong definition of atheism she used the definition of a agnostic

[@lochlanmaestas4064]

if everyone was like that asian christian and didnt try to shove religion in other peoples face and also was open minded to other religions this world would be a better place

[@passwordwords6301]

Yep As A Christian "This Is A Word From Me" You Have Free Will!🙏👍 You Don't Need To Be Chained I Believe In God You Don't I Think That Is Reasonable👍

[@theloffikilli4794]

@@passwordwords6301 Believe in what you want. At the end of the day, we are both human and we should all strive to make the world a better place 😉

[@sirantique9990]

IF YO MAMA DIDN'T SHOVE THAT SPOON IN YO MOUTH YOU NEVER WOULD'VE EATEN THAT FOOD BOY

[@zinedsdrawkcab840]

@@sirantique9990 the fuck

[@zosiakrasnopolska1338]

Didn't shove any opinion in anyones face***

[@crabmaster3338]

I love that Asian guy, respectful yet still voicing himself

[@Unnanymous]

Old man: "God is real, it's a fact" *Atheist rate goes down to 0*

[@mayramiranda5854]

God and fact never go together

[@TabooGroundhog]

Mayra Martinez Except for when God is Thor

[@Unnanymous]

@@TabooGroundhog Or Kratos

[@outofcontext3552]

I love your profile name and pic it's amazing

[@IbukunOluwaShotubo]

@@mayramiranda5854 Hmn! Really?

[@camicamcam1234]

the old man is a writer because nobody wants to hear him talk and go on and on and on... so he just writes it all into a book

[@acemxe8472]

I want to hear him talk. So your statement is false, and don’t speak for me.

[@daytondog8940]

@@acemxe8472 whatever ur ideas are on his thoughts the way he presented his info and attacked the others was not kind.

[@daytondog8940]

@@acemxe8472 plus she is just stating her opinion on the matter so chill

[@acemxe8472]

@@daytondog8940 And she said “nobody wants to hear him talk....”. So she is talking about more than just her opinion and everyone else’s as well.

[@daytondog8940]

@@acemxe8472 and do you really care enough about a simple sentence to have an argument?

[@peehead8532]

*clicks on an atheist vs christian debate* me: ooo spicy the first question: *pineapple belongs on pizza*

[@josiahclarke3535]

Doesn't get spicier than that

[@077-j8q]

I'm ur 100th like

[@zenfy5814]

Yeah🤣🤣

[@amerea_4763]

lmaoo

[@erenjaeger1738]

I don't get the joke?

[@isabellauryn7880]

I really liked the Asian guy! He was so respectful of others and listened to others points of views, and didn’t shut down others opinions.

[@elizabethschrader1600]

Isabel Lauryn I knowwwww I would love to have him be my friend

[@Hugealligator254]

Old dude: *talks* Mostly everyone: 😐

[@NotTVanymore]

Na everyone: 🤨

[@analauraoliveira7578]

More like: 😖

[@trippydeadhead481]

Christian religion thinks so and against humans.

[@acolyte6911]

@Justin Gary God bless you I know he has a special place in heaven just for people like You.May the unholy see the error of their ways and turn to a life of Christianity.🙏

[@CheAkki]

haha

[@jackfeider8487]

Atheist: I am an Ath- Old Man: YOURE WRONG! I SAY YOURE WRONG!

[@OfficialStreamSagaTv]

What if she is wrong ? What's your point dude

[@jakesabean]

She is wrong by the way 😂

[@kingbear7590]

@@jakesabean plus he was still rude

[@jakesabean]

@@kingbear7590 I will not defend the man’s attitude 😂

[@kingbear7590]

@@jakesabean ofc not

[@oldfashiondragon]

That old dude needs to chill out when everyone else is being open minded

[@connierule3902]

Yeah. As a christian that dude bugged me the whole video. I loved the other guy saying that he disagreed with his argumentativeness.

[@kallisteinbarge5656]

Also being a Christian, I didn't like how he was making the Christian faith appear. We're not all like that. But I think for older people it's more difficult to be open to the changes that the world has gone through in the past half a century or more because it's a completely different world from what it used to be and they don't feel as though that's right. For example, my grandfather is pretty racist, sometimes without meaning to be, because that used to be okay in society and now it's not. I'm not sure if it's fair of us to ask older people to conform to new societal standards and be perfectly okay with that

[@oldfashiondragon]

Well I understand this guy has studied and he has researched his points of views but that lone doesn't validate his ignorance to someone else's views.

[@tientrinh943]

Freaken whites convincing these Chinas and they havw done it well.

[@oldfashiondragon]

Mike C 😂😂😂

[@KrazyKirstennnn]

As a christian i identified with the young christian man the most. He was very honest and unafraid to let it be known that he didn't agree with the older man in a way that was respectful. You can be firm in your belief without being a jerk.

[@dolphins-qd6ge]

@Kirsten. He was still speaking the truth though. Do you have any rebukes for the atheist?

[@elizabethschrader1600]

Kirsten I feel the same way, whenever he talked after a heated moment I felt calm again lol

[@lauracarter1884]

I'm a Christian but that man who kept cutting people off is annoying. Great representation of us dude

[@nicholashoover931]

As an atheist, I'm glad to say all the Christians I've met are like the Asian guy.

[@leesurridge2947]

I know, embarrassing, right?

[@RednaxelaExE]

Same, I hate how any sort of group is stereotyped by the most vocal people in it or the worst people in it.

[@user-wh5fj6pj6m]

@@Noone-zo3tu Atheist means you *don’t* believe in a God/Jesus

[@valhersa29]

We don’t claim that guy, but we claim the Asian guy.

[@user-ze9zk7qu7u]

The old guy was so ignorant and disrespectful😟 Like damn, you’re there to start a conversation, not force your beliefs onto others. He is the perfect example of why i feel uncomfortable around most Christians.

[@OfficialStreamSagaTv]

That's something else making u feel like he's forcing it on to you ....

[@kaitlynwhite6218]

These are just random people on the street, from both sides, most Christians that are really working on themselves, are loving and non judgemental. It’s not about perfection, it’s about working on yourself each day

[@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063]

Yep

[@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063]

@@casperr253 ??!!

[@bms77]

@@casperr253 he’s not forcing a belief, he’s just making claims he can’t justify and he looks like a fool is all

[@TheRubyGamersTRG]

Old man speaks everyone: 0_0 Lol when he was screaming at the lady telling her she’s not an atheist even the Christians were face palming.

[@mylovexx5485]

lmao 😂😂

[@ceerie7487]

Yeah, they're trying hard not to disrespect hin because they might suddenly say something to him lol

[@djg5644]

@Emanuel Teklu I was just about to comment the same thing. That old guy knows what he's talking about, he is a very knowledgeable man, it kills me to see people here in the comments disrespecting him

[@xtraluv1295]

THeKiLlerSoldier One yes it’s clear that he’s knowledgeable but the way he presented himself was not good

[@viviana9725]

@@djg5644 he was rude and judgemental, he acts like he invented religion

[@blacksheep5183]

Delusional/Close minded old Christian man and young Open-Minded Christian man. Now we all see the difference of beliefs in terms of age.

[@abelabeli.9389]

What I see is a young Christian guy who doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings with what he believes and an older christian who is just okay with voicing his opinions. Period! For goodness sake the issue was 'who is an atheist' and you calling him delusional because he was saying the RIGHT definition of an atheist doesn't say well about you.

[@kristinahollosi]

i like the green shirt lady and the guy with the checkered shirt because they were both respectful and open to conversation which they were there for rather than what the old guy was doing which is just yell at everyone. He knew when he signed up for this that people were gonna dissagree with him bc thats the whole point and he should know that this is meant to be a discussion not fighting

[@Fin_Ale]

Abel Abel I. Atheism don’t believe in a God, that is it. Theism is the beliefen in a god.

[@myman8336]

It was his turn to talk tho lol 😂 He walked in

[@pokesprite266]

​@@abelabeli.9389 I hope this is a toll because it's sad to know that there are more are as mislead as this guy. I hope you're not a creationist like he is. Atheist means without belief in gods or god. If you check "None" on the religious section a form, you are an atheist. Agnostic means without knowledge. If you are not making an claiming knowledge on the existence or lack there of of some sort of god, you are agnostic. This is like atheism 101, very fundamental to how atheists label themselves. I understand different people use labels different ways, and words like atheist and agnostic have multiple definitions depending on who is asked. The reason she got so upset at him, is that he was defining labels in ways she disagreed with, and assigning them to her, even though she didn't fit those labels. Essentially, lying about her beliefs, and using definitions not used by atheists themselves.

[@haaaveyoumetme5223]

the other two christians gave that old man side eyes lol

[@madnessman1520]

He deserved it he was being so rude

[@kyleg2756]

"Christians"

[@kyleg2756]

@Brian Testa I didn't see any Christians in this video...but at least the old man was standing up for himself.

[@kyleg2756]

@Brian Testa Is there something inherently wrong with being "rude" or "patronizing"? From what I saw the old man was mostly trying to give some old fashion 'tough love'...and there's nothing wrong with that.

[@kyleg2756]

​@Brian Testa Do you think Jesus was wrong when he spoke to others and described them as being like "tombs, full of dead men's bones"? Was that not an example of tough love? Or was he being "misguided" or "arrogant"? Did he not still love those men?

[@shinli7926]

I like how no one takes the old dude serious

[@தமிழோன்]

Maybe coz everyone knows that he's from a different era where atheism was not openly discussed like it is today.

[@puddingpearpeachses1137]

@@தமிழோன் 😂

[@j0s3phXO]

Seriously*

[@kitchenmumma7596]

He's clearly not there to hear anybody else's perspective, just to "inform" everybody 😂

[@sarahhertzfeld2070]

Everyone’s faces whenever that man talks is my mood 24/7

[@tatummiller2549]

Sarah Hertzfeld sad we all know who you are talking about without even saying it lmaooo

[@moseyst.7997]

IM TALKING LOUDER SO IM WINNG THIS ARGUMENT

[@Grace-yl9sb]

Mosey St. MWHAHAHAHAHA

[@jmacsss]

"LOUD NOISES!!"

[@cian4336]

Dang it

[@christianayele8566]

No you didn't *FJEBXU HSJ USB HS. UD. U SU US UFK SYW DINS UDNJ DU DHD DJ XJS SHSBEH SHS SHS SHS JD SUD EHE EJDGZ XGX EHE JEBEJE EHDBHDDVDVDHD HD DHD DHD B D D*

[@escdarkside]

-Hamilton, 1791

[@carlofilippini1809]

It’s funny how the Asian guy cringes every time the old guy speaks 😂

[@marialindell9874]

Rightfully so

[@bigkaris912]

Yeah he agreed with him but he knew off the bat that is not the way too get through to people like that. He lacks the experience to question the bible so he cannot relate to people who had those problems and work with them. I want to sit down with an evangelical and have a chat with him for a couple hours too see what his true philosophy is down to a tee.

[@tundraart2693]

@Justin Gary that’s too long for me lol... do you have a tldr or something?

[@SitonLP]

@Justin Gary it's pretty funny how people like to disregard the evolution when were have bones and tons of other stuff to prove it. it isn't even a argument to say there must be a god because it is impossible that everything is created from nothing and to perfect that it can't be without anyone creating it (btw there are many theories of how something can be created from nothing like in the quantum theory). because this makes the existence of god far more illogical. why would the possibility be higher that a God (a being that is so powerfull he can create everything and any natural laws doesn't mean anything to him, is the definition of the word Perfect and should be by far more complex than the whole Universe) can exist without any reason but humans and other species (that have flaws and needed to go through million of Years of evolution) can't exist without anyone creating them. That doesn't make any sense

[@jlp27089]

as soon as I read this comment I looked at the video and it was a shot of that guy cringing

[@Jerry3dots]

"Pineapple belongs on pizza" The most controversial question before people of all walks of life.

[@iamme2872]

"People are so determined to make other people wrong" that's so true...

[@Carriedmusic]

On both sides.

[@shamaron2015]

Yeah i hate to say it but i'm one of those people.. i'm not anything close to the old guy but if someone challenges me on a topic my competitive ego just controls me 😭

[@Flabbergasted-yl4hv]

As a Christian I apologise for that older man. he was being very aggressive and apperrantly doesn't know that other people don't like to be interrupted

[@darrenisbruh3144]

Ace It Step By Step, as an atheist I understand how it is to have one person wrongly represent your beliefs, like Donald trump. I don’t want to “make America great again” it was greater when he wasn’t in office and didn’t make white men even more racist and sexist.

[@Godluvsme304]

Ace It Step By Step I think atheists should apologize for the lady in the green shirt as well

[@DrexelPretzel]

@@Godluvsme304 why? She did nothing wrong lmao

[@lukepuffinbarger5022]

Darren Carlen - Jones you are the epitome of a dumbass

[@lukepuffinbarger5022]

What did the old dude do wrong? The non-believers were so snappy and offended.

[@princesse0920]

I feel awful for the woman who said “father said I’m going to hell if I left him.” As a Christian, I’m so sorry he used religion to gaslight you. Hope your doing go better and are happier ❤️

[@angelinagbui]

@Speedart Otaku forgiveness isn't the same as tolerating evil. i agree, we should be forgiving those who do wrong against us just as God offers us forgiveness through the cross (if you believe the scriptures), but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't confront the situation. for example, if you witnessed a petsitter abusing your pet, you should forgive but also report them. that way, you can prevent them from repeating what they did and at the same time be free of the grudge you hold against them.

[@davehenny5263]

I value human souls a lot. I cry a lot to God to please have mercy on the lost souls on earth. Humanity is made in the image of God and the devil won't ever love humanity because we're made in God's image. I believe that there are some good people in the world even if they are different beliefs but that doesn't mean our deeds were good because we all are capable of evil we've all lied and stoled cussed and done wrong choices that are evil. We all have the knowledge of good and evil we make good choices and bad choices daily and evil choices are the result to sin because wrong actions are evil. That's why the Bible says no man is good. But Gods merciful to humanity because he loves you so soo soooooooooooo much that he sent his Son Jesus Christ to die for you. Your all amazing human beings never give up because God loves you. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🙏

[@user-xg2nc3vw3x]

@@davehenny5263 amen 🙏🏾

[@naomiabu8021]

@Speedart Otaku of course she shouldn’t have to stay with him. I think it’s really sad that she fell out of her faith because of her dad. Christians like that just drive people away from God

[@lumpystilskin5367]

@Speedart Otaku she can leave the abusive relationship if she wants.

[@mmafighter42]

As a Christian, I sincerely apologize about the elderly gentleman

[@jarodhiggs]

how tf are you a christian in 2023

[@Courierman6]

​@@jarodhiggsdude just let people belive in what they want to believe in

[@jarodhiggs]

@@Courierman6 most people dont even believe in it tho its just what is normal so they follow it

[@mmafighter42]

@@Courierman6 thank you

[@Beatbassbusta]

Didnt ask dont care

[@carlaeyyy649]

The old guy makes me uncomfortable not just his looks but he was very aggressive, interrupted people and was just rude

[@James-cs2dz]

Why does what he looks like make you uncomfortable?

[@toastscab6725]

Dominick Evans are you blind

[@James-cs2dz]

@@toastscab6725 no

[@gawrguraenthusiast5675]

@@James-cs2dz seems like u is

[@gawrguraenthusiast5675]

I agree

[@fruitpackette]

lmao even the other two believers were like giving that old dude side eyes

[@thekidrichie]

You have. Viral comment but KZbin will never let u know

[@RealSaboTabby]

I don’t know how they managed to get Benjamin Franklin on here.

[@billiei.788]

Yessssss..... You're comment just gave me life💆💯

[@dogefan12349]

Oh my f*cking lord you're right.

[@miadowlatkhah1187]

chilll im dead

[@sirantique9990]

straight up copy and paste ngl

[@RealSaboTabby]

@Sirantique Nope, just something I noticed and thought was funny. I thought I was the first one to acknowledge it LOL.

[@IsaacWale2004]

I like the fact that this comment section isn't toxic... some comment sections on these types of videos are just full of people arguing, I'm glad that this one isn't like that :)

[@Lofeupsidedown]

I would love to have a friend like the Asian guy. He is so cultured and refined.

[@NameGoesHere341]

i disagree about the cultured and refined but i agree he would be a good friend.

[@paulcooper5748]

I would love to have a good friend period.

[@NameGoesHere341]

paul cooper a good friend period. Like a woman friend? But only once a month friendship?

[@paulcooper5748]

Are you offering.?

[@stayfocused6481]

Shawon Das Yeah, he was my favorite person they had.

[@freshbaseball2380]

The Asian guy is such a great conversationalist and seems like a really positive dude to be around

[@MiaB907]

It's the Jesus in him😊

[@someoneontheinternet1516]

@@MiaB907 ...

[@DarkSide-kj2vs]

The only one i would ever wanna be around with is Jesus for his will is righteous. Do not hang out with people who do not seek the kingdom of God.

[@molten_bread]

@@DarkSide-kj2vs dude

[@DarkSide-kj2vs]

@PiK oh ye... When did jesus said for us to do that... Read it before u say something....

[@kalliemazurek3801]

Everybody is so done with the old guy including the Christians lmao

[@DreadyBandz410]

Fred price

[@unknownv8462]

He will die soon so he needs this faith to be true.

[@daniel-tg3825]

Kallie Mazurek the point is to speak your opinion and if that up set you you shouldn’t watch these middle ground videos

[@kalliemazurek3801]

@@daniel-tg3825 I never said it upset me ?! I was simply stating that they're clearly frustrated with the older guy.

[@bigolworm3045]

God Daniel- He is not proclaiming his own emotions, he is just saying what the others in the video are feeling

[@chessblunders6979]

It wouldn’t cost millions for a human to make another human. Clearly he never got the “talk”

[@codex988]

Lol my boy Benjamin Franklin never heard of the 'birds and the bees'

[@SapienSafari]

The Asian Guy is trying so hard to get Ben Franklin to calm down.

[@marissachristine9878]

😂😂

[@thepodpulseclips]

Bruh he more knowledgeable and wiser than him

[@Hugealligator254]

Bon frinklin

[@-itzmocha-3215]

LMFAOOOKOKODnjnswfcnis I cant with y'all

[@Estaoord]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ToNaRrisTheNomadDev]

The Asian dude is a clear representive of a "reasonable" Christian and the old dude is a clear representive of an "entitled self proclaimed" Christian

[@karltietjen3876]

trueee

[@mandi3366]

Jesus is the one true God. He loves you and cares for you 🤍🤍

[@ToNaRrisTheNomadDev]

@@mandi3366 cap

[@csabaszasz6058]

The old guy is the representation of relegion. Asian guy true christian.

[@neo9416]

@@mandi3366 i would like to disagree

[@yoyoendlessstring]

the asian man was an example of a modern day christian who has had to adapt to the controversial world we live in. he was admirably open-minded and didn't try to shove his opinions in other peoples' faces; he's the sort of person who would only tell you that he is a christian if it came up in conversation or he was asked. he is a christian, that is who he is, and there's nothing else to it. the old man, on the other hand... first off. his voice. wow. second off he ruined this entire thing; he shoved his interpretations of Christianity and "fact"s into literally everyone's faces, and then looked towards the other two christians as though they should without a doubt agree with him, presumably because he is old and old people in the Christian culture are usually valued and held high above our heads.

[@livieegee]

Yoyo String I think he has such an open mind because he said he once wasn't a Christian

[@Forizee]

Yoyo String that man drove me crazy and proved how different people can see the world even in the same label. He sounds like Ted Cruz

[@lutherschultz4725]

truth is that man wasn't a real Christian. He is using Christianity for it's spiritual side not for it's literal interpretation of the bible and creation. Spiritualism is very important in life but the story of creation not so much, I feel that a lot of modern fake Christians have chosen to forgo the latter.

[@faikai]

Yoyo String i understand what you’re comin’ from, but i just wanted to let you know that christianity firmly believes to praise about god to others. but i don’t think anyone should shove that into anyone’s faces.

[@hungb714]

The narrow gate leads to eternal life and the wide gate leads to hell. Matt 7:13-14 and the only road to heaven kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqSWfnaafat9pqM

[@Natsawizard]

Jeremy is such a bad representative for Christianity.

[@Natsawizard]

@Dumisani Nkosi does what?

[@Natsawizard]

@Dumisani Nkosi In love. Which, I don't see much of from him.

[@MRWattsonclips]

Why cause he's blunt and doesn't not Suger coating the (facts)

[@Natsawizard]

@@MRWattsonclips Cause there's a right and wrong way to share the gospel, and he's doing it the wrong way. I see too much flesh and not enough Jesus from him.

[@hwhack]

Actually, he represents almost all religions. Extreme arrogants, extreme incompetence, extreme narcissism. He'd fit right in with the Taliban or the Catholic priests.

[@quebec__12]

Old Man: God is real, I am right Athiest: *have different opinions* Old Man: *The Council Has Spoken*

[@act1veee]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@sirantique9990]

nobody is actually laughing tho

[@seaweedbrain3732]

@@sirantique9990 u r sad old fart

[@angelicdust6460]

@@seaweedbrain3732 no no the joke just wasn't funny...u r the old fart

[@seaweedbrain3732]

@@angelicdust6460 check ur meds

[@timrasmusson3566]

The old man is the reason why you cant debate religion. People will do nothing but force their views on atheists. I’m religious, but I don’t do the things he did

[@goto_1032]

Some Christian's, such as the old man, don't accept the definition of atheist and/or create their own definition. Luckily these are in the minority, at least in my experience. (A)gnosticism is about knowledge. (A)theism is about belief. That's it. You gain nothing from asserting the other sides position, other than destroying your own strawman.

[@adrianlindafhageby468]

I mean, I've met atheists with equally closed minds as the old man. I'm an atheist myself and that made me realize that the danger is not ignorant religious people but ignorant atheist people for the future. Though they really didn't hide the fact that the old man most likely is a scam with all of those different fields he's writing about. It's hard enough to be an expert in one area... I guess you need to write about everything in order to be able to fight the entire body of scientific evidence.

[@uniqoEnEsp]

Tim Rasmusson AMEN!

[@inaudiblearia8047]

Adrian Lind af Hageby I really appreciate your honesty, I think the old fella needs to learn how to give information and not enforce his opinions. Might I ask why or how you are(became) an atheist?

[@michaelsweeney9362]

I think he was awesome

[@randomrise1st72]

Everybody else: * Nervously try to say something with respect Old guy: ”I AM RIGHT, AND THAT'S A FACT!”

[@baekin-8258]

me when im in a debate and im the only liberal and i say hi and i instantly get called a libtard for breathing

[@Greatness411]

Those were some soft-balled questions.

[@freshgreenjello6431]

Jeez....The old man and the women wearing the green shirt are literal stereotypes of themselves.....

[@andrewgoode7640]

Fresh Green Jello I agree. both need to chill out

[@shaniajackson4051]

Lubię Spaghetti i pizze yes he, in fact, is

[@shaniajackson4051]

Lubię Spaghetti i pizze you are bad.

[@freshgreenjello6431]

Chester Argyle I never meant to say that the old man is *bad* per se, what I meant was that he's stereotyping himself by acting like God is ultimate answer. He's acting like what I used to think Christians were like (not being open minded and unwilling to hear another person's opinion, like him claiming that the women beside him was agnostic even though she insisted that she wasn't. Thinking that his God has all the answers while blindly believing and unwilling to think even for a moment that maybe not everything has been figured out yet.) The women wearing the green shirt isn't any better however. She attempts to shut down the Asian guy (who is in my opinion a true Christian) for "baiting" her when all he was doing was asking her a simple question. She seems to assume that all Christians are close minded and are just looking to "trap" her with their questions and force their beliefs on to her when all they're are doing is having a civil discussion. She too is unwilling to hear another sides opinions. She's what I *thought* all atheists were like back when I was a hard core Christian. This isn't really relevant but I've been on both sides of the spectrum, both a close minded Christian and an ignorant atheist and watching these two reminded me of not only what I thought all Christians and atheist were like but of how I used to be myself. Now I know better. We're all just people who want to find an answer to the most mysterious question: "Why are we here? Why do we exist? What is our purpose?" It's not necessarily that any side has been misinformed, it's that we've all been informed to the potential answer of this question in different ways and that we should discuss, criticise and debate each other. Not necessarily to convince the other side but to *understand* the other side and maybe even use this discussion to come to our own conclusions about the world. Ok with that kumbaya mushy crap over thanks for reading this long ass paragraph, you're a saint.

[@Shivani-wy9rr]

I thought the lady in green is hurting and in pain more than anything else. The old guy, however, is basically the reason all religions have a bad name. Arrogance and unwilling to even comprehend a different point of view. I liked everyone else on both sides except him.

[@ahuyx]

I love how everytime the old man speaks everyone's just like 😒

[@purplecloudsacidrain7264]

Yea cause they hate the truth

[@ahuyx]

@@purplecloudsacidrain7264 there's a way to speak ur truth without coming off like a dick lol

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Did Eve know of the stakes to MORE than her and Adam, if I may ask, Mich?

[@purplecloudsacidrain7264]

@@chrissonofpear1384 did she ?

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Before she met the snake...

[@emf1145]

that old dude straight up yelling at that woman and saying what she is.... absolutely annoying and pathetic he needs to CALM DOWN

[@PortlandMan]

YOURE NOT AN ATHEIST, YOURE AN AGNOSTIC!!!

[@kc6201]

The thing he said that atheists can't believe in the supernatural is neither a Christian belief or the dictionary definition. And he was so sure of himself too.

[@codyrobitille1129]

Hes wrong tho. Atheism and agnostisism arent mutally exvlusive. They are titles to describe 2 totally different things. Atheism is the lack of religious belief. Nostacism is wether u claim the know it as fact. Or just arent sure. If your agnostic atheist ur position is yoy dont know whats true. So you dont follow any religion. A nostic atheist claims to know for a fact there is no god. Or feels he has evidence contrary to religious claims

[@neptica9926]

Cody Robitille I don’t know where you’re getting these definitions but they seem entirely made up. The word "atheism" comes from the Greek language. It can be divided into a- (ἄ), a Greek prefix meaning "without", and theos (θεός), meaning "god", and recombined to form "without gods"[10] or "godless" In Greek the suffix ism is a distinctive doctrine, theory, system, or practice. With that being said Atheism is a godless doctrine, theory, system or practice. Im confused why the definitions are being changed. To me it just seems like they want to be cooler by calling themselves atheists.

[@ballsach8864]

Cody Robitille s Thanks for the actual info

[@williammarchant9356]

Proud to be an exmuslim atheist from Pakistan I believe that no religion is greater than humanity.

[@viczeen]

"I believe that no religion is greater than humanity". This is the greatest quote I've ever come across. William, I don't know how u came to the realization of this, but what I knw for sure is, u're gonna have a really smooth life. Cheers brother🥂

[@pythondrink]

Damn! Stay safe.

[@baind3adang3l24]

It literally kills me every time the old man talks everyone just gets so quiet and uncomfortable.😂😂💀

[@birkergud7359]

@Christian Weidmann That guy was a moron lmfao. He just starts by saying that people don't have morals which doesn't come from the bible. If christianity is right, and THAT is the kind of guy who goes to heaven, then i'd rather get raped by Satans minions with their huge cocks for all rest of eternity than join THAT guy in heaven.

[@hozwayy2594]

@Christian Weidmann good christians are those who accomodate each and everybody's ideas and beliefs and not superimposing your own such that its correct, its just pride. of course you can be proud of being a christian but a slow and smooth debate couldve brought a much better conversation and middle ground among the people's beliefs in the video, something which the old man didn't try and promote. im a practicing catholic and i detest what you said back there.

[@dynamytl9821]

@@hozwayy2594 yeah.. agreed

[@josecarlosxyz]

He talks too much he’s fanatic and blind by religion beliefs

[@anonymousalien7417]

@@hozwayy2594 Not just good Christians. Good people in general.

[@duallschlichter4720]

Everyone: I believe- Old guy: Actually according to the Bible.. Everyone: but- Old guy: that’s not a belief it’s a fact 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

[@intodewood0598]

Well, the chart says...

[@JazminDiaz01]

He’s hilarious I like him 😂😂

[@_donald.harrison04]

Duall Schlichter LOLL

[@lnsaneMagnum]

Mannnn this pissed me off so much. I get that he’s old and has had a lifetime of indoctrination. I respect his opinions. But the bible is not fact. No religious text can be deemed as fact. No human can understand the complexities of where we came from, why we are here, etc etc. It’s all just theories.

[@kc6201]

That and his voice makes him seem more like a character someone invented than a real guy.

[@leslyrodriguez3574]

The Asian dude was very respectful the old man should of been a little more understanding because this is why people don’t want go be Christian , speaking as a Christian you need to understand people and working through that.

[@pokemon2309]

Lesly Rodriguez I’m an atheist and I thought the Asian dude seemed like a cool and thoughtful guy, definitely someone I could be friends with. The old guy is just a moron, totally unwilling to accept that he doesn’t know what he thinks he knows. Nobody can know if god exists or not. I’m an atheist because I don’t believe god exists, but I can’t say that I know god(s) does not exist.

[@pokemon2309]

JY wong I don’t get why people can’t just get along regardless of beliefs. As long as we don’t use our faiths, or lack of faith, to hurt other people then it’s all ok by me. I am very strong in my atheism, but it’s not my place to force my views upon other people, the same way I don’t expect a Christian to try to convert me. I only ever argue about faith when a religious person gets in my face with it or tries to use their religion to restrict the rights of others, such as blasphemy laws or restrictions of LGBT rights. At the end of the day nobody can actually know if any type of god/higher power exists, so let’s all just enjoy the human experience and if a personal faith or religion helps someone to do that then it’s fine by me.

[@pokemon2309]

JY wong yeah, for me there’s no point in trying to start arguments or trying to make people feel bad. It’s important to be kind and respectful towards people.

[@EvoAlexis]

Facts don’t care for your feelings

[@davidcarson2834]

I am a Christian even, and I, too, was annoyed by the old man. The Asian guy was much, much better.

[@abigailhoward9312]

I love their compliments at the end. Very specific and heart warming. These are lovely people. The old guy just needs to work on his listening and communication skills.

[@thekidrichie]

Me:this is about to get serious Guy:pineapple belongs on pizza

[@evaggelia8815]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@electr_icity4613]

Burn him by the stake.

[@Virginny]

I love warm up questions they always lossen up the room.

[@ColinMroczko]

Virginia Harp yeah that’s the point of them. They ask them on serious topics.

[@megancramer5288]

They did the same kinda thing for the pro choice vs pro life, they asked a random question to lighten the mood

[@sebastianmalvaroza7535]

That old guy is exactly what you should *not* be as a Christian. He's the "I'm right and you're not" type of person and thinks his opinions and values are absolute.

[@olegmeln9098]

He is the type of Christian you should be. He is biblical. The Asian dude and the blond lady are only Christians when it benefits them or make them feel Better about themselves.

[@marienne114]

@@olegmeln9098 no, the old guy was a bible thumping fool.

[@whosser1409]

@Logan Botill Jesus said:"Father forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing" Luke 23:34. God CAN save you and WILL if you return to Him. *never* say anything bad about God especially if you do not have a rlt with Him. He loves you.

[@olegmeln9098]

@Logan Botill one day you will be able to tell that to Him yourself, Interesting you are telling me I’m criticizing people. I didn’t criticize the non believers using bible as the authority, I criticized those who cal them selves Christians and used bible as the authority. If you are a Christian, then you will act and try to act and live the way the Bible teaches. That Asian dude and the lady only call themselves Christians, but they don’t want to believe what the Bible says because it’s not to a benefit for them. Same thing, if you are a doctor, or a pilot, you have a protocol and set of guidelines you have to follow, if you won’t follow them, you will crash a plane with people on it and the person on the surgery most likely will die. What I’m pointing out is that if you call yourself a Christian, then act like one. I respect others peoples opinions, and talk to many different people with different beliefs, and we have many great conversations. You are the one who can’t stand opinions because you start name calling. In any conversation, debate, argument if someone starts using name, means they on the losing side. Think about that. I hope that one day you will meet Jesus and not on judgment day but before that. God bless you and Jesus loves you.

[@olegmeln9098]

@@marienne114 if you would have read the Bible then you would see it’s the other way around.

[@jenscesur7390]

That old guys Voice sounds like his nose is blocked since the 1950's

[@humanperson3960]

This comment is so true, thank you

[@cia1985]

He sounds like popeyes.

[@Deepak-tp5pl]

Thanks for making me laugh.😋

[@mediocretriplethreat]

2:49

[@gonegirrrl]

OMG 😭😭💀

[@bradlytshigeng7350]

I love people like Peter. Does not impose his beliefs on everyone and is willing to listen and remain open minded. Unlike a certain somebody who just spews nonsense and declares it as fact without even providing any sort of evidence to back his claims. Damn, this one frustrated me!

[@happygojo]

Ikr, Peter is the kind of person that has friends of many different religions and never makes it a problem/argument Also yea that old guy was annoying af...

[@ecarter2747]

Wow Jeremy, you managed to insult Atheists, Agnostics AND Christians all, in the space of mere seconds. [golf clap]

[@user-yr8wv4kt3i]

Golf clap 😂

[@kurrowspoty.9797]

I believe in the Bible and I believe in God but I don’t claim the Christian religion because a lot of them are very hateful instead of listening they just think that they’re the only ones right

[@ginothecrusader9301]

@@kurrowspoty.9797Are you Jewish

[@zoans6731]

@@kurrowspoty.9797 that’s the issue Christianity is not a thing of religion it’s ones personal relationship with God, so although when filling out forms you’d put down “Christianity” as religion for example, it goes far beyond a thing of Do’s and don’ts, so it’s fine not to claim the “religion” but have that relationship with God and that’s what being a true Christian is

[@hukk7500]

@@zoans6731 Christianity is a religion based on the teachings of Jesus and God, and you CAN NOT change that. Your relationship with God is a way to strengthen that belief in Jesus, God, and the bible.

[@FlamingAtheist]

"It would cost several million dollars to make a human, IF that were possible" I strongly disagree, you can make a human for free right at home at any given time

[@zurxer1257]

FlamingAtheist I believe he’s saying if (through some magical/unexplainable reason I’m assuming, completely theoretical) if humans were to stop being able to produce the conventional way, to create a human from scratch would cost that much. Which, based on his background I’m assuming, turns out to actually be true. Idk if u were joking or not but it wasn’t hard for me to understand so I hope u were at least.

[@zurxer1257]

FlamingAtheist I say based on his background because he actually has a pretty scientific background that he balances with religious belief. Which is pretty cool in my opinion. He advocates something positive and devotes his free time to publishing work and making a name for himself by studying what others don’t. Great to see the diversity of this world and your funny comment!

[@rogueeskimo8253]

@@zurxer1257 Zzzzzz

[@nina-ef6uf]

Zurxer But wth gone clone a human- Ew that’s really 🤮

[@zurxer1257]

Envyus a disease spreads affecting the reproduction systems of humans across the globe. We can’t cure it and are out of all other options. what do we do as humans? Use advanced technology to replace what we can’t fix (which exists btw)

[@rileyh6801]

Nobody, absolutely nobody: The old guy: Everything I say is a fAcT.

[@ItzFreshii]

"The lie detecter test determined that was also a lie" XD

[@ItzFreshii]

1. r/whoosh 2. @@dan78789 I believe the joke is nobody (The norm civilians in this world minding their own business) are doing nothing towards this conversation. HOWEVER the one thing that no one expected was when the old man acted like he knew the facts. This is the best way I can explain it. You should ask pro memers for help to understand the joke.

[@ItzFreshii]

@@dan78789 Shrug. I dunno how to help. Just know it is a good joke. But to each their own i suppose.

[@ItzFreshii]

It isn't Daniel's fault if he doesn't understand. To each their own. If he doesnt understand then he doesn't. You can't force him to, @Blake Hunt. Let's not blow up the replies feuding lol.

[@harshkamat2287]

Ok boomer

[@oworeo]

the old christian guy is literally a boomer, completely entitled and arrogant, the atheist lady in purple and the younger christian guy is the most tolerant and open minded people there

[@RS54321]

You're attacking him b/c of his age...how intolerant is that?

[@fandroid6491]

​@@RS54321 Boomer is a mentality, not an age thing