Atheists Trusted Sam Harris, Until . . .

Sam Harris has been criticizing Christianity and Islam for decades, and he has often made significant factual blunders. Is there an underlying methodology that leads to Sam's mistakes? Fortunately, Sam settled the matter in his interview on Triggernometry! David Wood discusses the issue.
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[@l.rongardner2150]

Sam "I Don't Believe in Censorship, Unless It's Censorship I Believe in" Harris.

[@justins.5222]

…criminally horrible intentional misinformation

[@georgedoyle2487]

Exactly!! Sam Harris’s “WELL BEING” philosophy in nothing more substantive than his own arbitrary subjective metaphysics dressed up with scientism, utilitarianism and materialism of the gaps fallacies. Utilitarianism and scientism and materialism of the gaps clearly leads to all sorts of absurd and evil conclusions which is why it’s very popular among people who subscribe to the assumption that we are all nothing more substantive than ULTIMATELY MEANINGLESS, HOLLOW AND SOULLESS APES, determined machines, that is nothing more substantive than chemical and biological robots right? Sam is an unapologetic determinist who an actually believes that freewill/the conscious agent is ILLUSORY, that is rational decision making itself is “ILLUSORY” right? We are clearly not just determined machines. The irony is that Sam Harris makes a six figure sum trying to get people to change their WILL whilst arguing until he’s blue in the face that freewill/the conscious agent is “ILLUSORY” and doesn’t actually exist right? This is comedy gold!! Furthermore, the controversial philosopher and utilitarian Peter Singer argues that if it is moral and “logical” to abort a baby in the uterus then it “logically” follows that parents should have the “special right” to kill their child even after birth!! Which is clearly murder. But according to the utilitarian Peter Singer if no parent has a preference that the child should live, infanticide within the first months of life can be “morally” justified!!!? Here Singer takes Sam Harris’s logic and the same utilitarian arguments and pathway that people use to justify abortion in the womb and introduces his horrific dystopian “ethic” of “replaceability”. What a surprise!! Most normal people naturally recoil in disgust from Peter Singers “special right”, that is Singers horrific dystopian “moral” philosophy, as do I. This guy is basically arguing that you should be able to keep killing babies in the cot until you feel that your personal subjective “special child” has satisfied your subjective preferences and preferred timing!! This is so objectively evil and depraved that it is incredible that anyone could try and justify having an abortion in a scientific and so called “rational” and civilised era!!

[@demonking86420]

It shows the most when one mentions a specific U.S.President in his presence

[@TomM-p3o]

Harris needs people to pray for him

[@murphy6424]

How convenient!

[@patrickbuckley7259]

This is why you don't trust people with a purely utilitarian ethic, because when sufficient cause is enough to justify any means. Any means will always have sufficient cause.

[@metalgear6737]

Clearly Sam thinks one is worse than the other.

[@youngKOkid1]

Peter Singer has entered the chat

[@nocx4592]

Humans have a great ability to come up with seemingly good reasons for whatever actions they want. Utilitarianism is the philosophy of any action can be moral if you have enough good reasons.

[@Xbalanque84]

_"And 'do as thou wilt' be the whole of the law..."_

[@warnerchandler9826]

​@@Xbalanque84Clearly, if doing whatever you want is the whole law, there is no "law" at all. So why laws? Why governments?

[@DanielApologetics]

Sam Harris took a phD in Christianity from a cereal box.

[@tommyrotton9468]

best way, keep it simple

[@rhydyard]

@@tommyrotton9468 For simple read simplistic..

[@John3.36]

How many mail-in labels for that?

[@riccardodigiuseppe8661]

Sam Harris is a mediocre academic and an evil man.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@John3.36 6 6 6 ...

[@cheryllwaldrop9732]

The man just went on the record saying that it's okay to lie to take down anyone/anything that scares you. Why would anyone ever believe anything he has ever had to say?

[@jackschitt6235]

R u ok with the Trumpster becoming the president again because he tells the crazy Christians what they want to hear? It's a proven fact that he has lied and cheated others and he gets older and fatter and his wives get younger and slimmer! Great Christian man for sure

[@Texas75023]

Oh . . . I got this . . . Because those people are just as delusionally deceived . . . just as evil . . . just as arrogantly ignorant . . . as Sam "the god" Harris.

[@katiek.8808]

That’s a leftist rule of engagement. His followers don’t care because they do the same.

[@Texas75023]

@@joshuagunderson6593 Consider for a moment everyone who watches the Democrat/Leftist media is being told *DAILY* that TRUMP is *HITLER* . . . which the left has been doing non-stop since 2016. As *WRONG* as they are . . . I can understand imagining TRUMP was an existential threat . . . and the *ONLY* way to save our "mu-democracy" is to destroy the Democratic process. It has nothing to do with Judaism itself, or Jews in particular. *ALL* the programmed NPCs of the Left have become droids.

[@jackschitt6235]

@@joshuagunderson6593 R u an anti-Semite?

[@nikaoharbour6962]

Harris is proof of how far people will go to justify their sin

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Yes these disgusting people. How dare they are a descendant of a fictional woman who eat a apple from a talking snake

[@M-i-k-a-e-l]

Yes, and many of us christians shows that we are going even further - hiding behind christianity - to be able to continue sinning.

[@francescoaccomando7781]

If we wouldn't have sinned he wouldn't have had to suffer.

[@john-xp4em]

​@@LtGregoryStevenslol, Jesus died, because we commited sin.

[@rein60951]

Jesus came so that the blind would see, and those who see would become blind. There are only two options, sight in the light that is Jesus, or total blindness and pretending to see. But if Paul and everyone here could see from our blindness, maybe Harris will see too. Only Jesus

[@Mexican-tacobutnotabreakfast1]

For some reason I have always had an intuitive feeling that Sam Harris speaks and works in bad faith. He hates religions-all religions.

[@kazumakiryu157]

Sadly, that is my experience with most new online atheists. They hate religion. I actually had a conversation with someone who kept on denying Christianity's impact on societies and kept saying Asian countries haven't been thatmuch helped by Christianity. Little did he know that I live in an Asian country, that the Christians helped to build churches, schools, hospitals and do charity in. Thank God for Christians! My family line was originally Taoists and Jesus Christ saved my family!

[@doctoreggman21]

Most, (if not all, honestly), new-atheists are like this

[@twistedtitan5485]

Nihilist

[@lewis72]

What's wrong with hating all religions ? It's putting faith over reason.

[@doctoreggman21]

@@lewis72 Faith is the necessary precondition for ANY reason.

[@CJUzziel]

"There is an existential threat to our democracy, so I am going to undermine the democracy..."

[@konyvnyelv.]

I agree. You persecute nazis to protect non nazis from persecution

[@catharperfect7036]

Like that commander in the Vietnam war: "we had to destroy the village to save it."

[@DM_Curtis]

@@catharperfect7036 "We have to save Democracy so we can destroy it!"

[@warnerchandler9826]

Saving democracy is a claim that allows anyone to do anything, thereby destroying it and anything else they touch.

[@AtheistReligionIsCancer]

@@warnerchandler9826 communists will always use the argument "for the greater good" to comit atrocities. Read the manifestos from lenin, that will enlighten you.

[@grandlotus1]

Here's a test of atheism's sincerity and intent: Where are the great atheist charitable institutions, like hospitals, food banks, shelters and the like?

[@jhbidwell]

Bingo!

[@pianoandguitarlover2773]

@@jhbidwell Most charities are frauds, and most of those funds very rarely ever go to the cause that the so-called "charity" promotes.

[@hodgheg]

An excellent and forensic dismantling of Harris and his huge ego.

[@Tinesthia]

It’s literally not. He lied about what Sam said at the end, and completely forgot the first part of his own video citing that people make mistakes in live interviews when he called Sam’s mistake quoting Luke a lie.

[@G1stGBless]

@@Tinesthia😂😂😂 ig u missed the looong part of the video where Sam lied about what Jesus said in PREPARED remarks demonstrating no further need to take sams sad lack of veracity seriously 🤡🤡🤣🤣

[@jM-rz4qu]

@@G1stGBless oh yes, expertly taken down. A clip from like 15 years ago either misstating or misinterpreting the passage. Gosh, this guy really got him.

[@tomsea6017]

@@bengreen171 You are the pathetic liar. Sam Harris didn't present "his interpretation" of the parable as you attempt here. He stated it as a commandment from Jesus, in a comparative way as Muhammad does. And he has repeated this same tactic in other videos in an attempt to "equalise" Islamic violence with Christianity as if the teachings were similar. So no, you're not being honest here.

[@Astronet2030]

​@@bengreen171you do realise your point is... pointless right? Did Jesus order his disciples to kill people directly or by inference from a parable? Did Jesus even imply that anybody should kill anybody? Absolutely not! Of cause God will send people to hell! Why is that a problem? You choose where you want to go and He will gladly (or not so gladly depending on your choice) send you there

[@damianvaldez88]

I remember I caught this when he did that interview. I talked to my hardcore atheist conservative friend about it, whose hero is Sam Harris. He agreed that Sam Harris was dumb and wrong to say that about trump. So I told him, "Well, if he is willing to lie, cheat, and do whatever it takes to make sure he doesn't win, would it be fair to say he would do the same for Christianity?" Friend: Huh? No, no, absolutely not. He is intellectually honest when it comes to religion.

[@anthonyoer4778]

An atheist and a conservative? That's an odd combo.

[@FIRE0KING]

Pretty common actually.

[@JustinLovesAllison]

Atheist=a shortcut to a lack of intelligence and an inability for accountability. Only the fool in his heart says there is no God. The proud will be humbled, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. Every atheist will be humbled, not now but when they are judged by the God they blaspheme and deny now.

[@ostrichman]

isnt hardcore atheist conservative friend a song by the fall?

[@anthonyoer4778]

@@FIRE0KING only if you think anything right of Lenin is conservative...

[@truthonlyhurtsthewicked]

Want to imagine what someone like Sam would do if he was in charge of a nation?.... You don't need to imagine it, Because Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin already showed us. They all have the same dad.

[@Timeren2010]

Are you seriously confusing atheims, disbelief in gods, with a totalitarian ideology such as communism? Pretty fucking dishonest, dont you think?

[@WillIam79-c7f]

Could it be.........Satan?

[@FIRE0KING]

Nah couldnt be.... or maybe....

[@martytu20]

Any one that tried to build a utopia quickly realized they still have to deal with human nature.

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

No the Demiurge Archon.

[@AtlasGaming4k]

As an old atheist I love your channel! Great nod and concise summaries. Keep it up!

[@R0d_1984]

Most Christians don't hate Atheists, i find the discourse a fantastic opportunity to sharpen our debating skills and faith. Have a great day.

[@jhoughjr1]

I was an atheist for over a decade. Been an interesting journey

[@R0d_1984]

@@jhoughjr1 I turned my back on God for about 35 years, put through the grinder, the last 3.5 years have "Been an interesting journey'' ... ;D All the best

[@den8863]

@@jhoughjr1welcome to the world of reason!

[@adamgates1142]

@den8863 They didn't even say what religion! How reasonable...

[@nikokapanen82]

OK. I'm pretty slow and my mother tongue isn't English, but the point of this video was that Sam's moral foundation considers deception and fabrications as a good and justifying behavior if you have an existential threat facing you and he believed that Christian faith is an existential threat, therefore to deceive and fabricate lies about Christian faith in goal to destroy it, is perfectly justifiable according to Sam's moral code? That is the message, right?

[@LairdDavidson]

That pretty much sums it up.

[@cba4389]

Yes, and it would have been clearer if this was about a 5 minute video.

[@johnsmithers8913]

That's pretty much the entire approach to all things Left. Post-modernism allows them to come up with any view point regardless of the basis in reality or facts. Post-modernism says there is no right or wrong view point, it's all subjective. Once they have this view point(which typically is just a creation of their feelings and how they want to imagine themselves in the world) comes the concept of "Truthiness". Truthiness means that even if a statement is a lie, if it supports the greater truth of the person's view point, it is not a deception nor is it morally wrong. This is similar to Islam where lying to protect the faith is a moral good. There are many similarities to the Left and Islam as they are both false religions.

[@MrGustavier]

@@johnsmithers8913 *-"That's pretty much the entire approach to all things Left. Post-modernism allows them to come up with any view point regardless of the basis in reality or facts. Post-modernism says there is no right or wrong view point, it's all subjective."* Not exactly. Post moderns think that anyone that pretends to have access to *"reality or facts"* is basically just a _"naive realist"_ or voluntarily deceitful to increase one's power. *-"Once they have this view point(which typically is just a creation of their feelings and how they want to imagine themselves in the world)"* As far as I know everything we know about neuroscience, cognitive science, sociology, anthropology, support the post modern *"view point".* *-"This is similar to Islam where lying to protect the faith is a moral good."* You're thinking about _"taqiyya"_ ? This is exactly the same for christians... Look at David Wood right here, who is willing to misrepresent things if it better fits his narrative... A real post modern !

[@Bradawick]

Its like how for 4 years people were saying trump is literally hitler. Doesnt that make removing him from office at any cost ok? So why is it seen as crazy to claim democrats cheated? Ofcourse they cheated, they had a moral obligation to remove hitler from power by any means.

[@bubbanc01]

"We can't afford 4 more years of Trump. " A few years later all the prices have more than doubled and the interest rates have tripled. Sam doesn't have a clue. People can't afford his vanity.

[@celestialsatheist1535]

Now imagine what would happen if trump actually stayed

[@asdf-bm4df]

Trump attempted a fkn coup when he lost. As for the interest rates, they could've gone either way with any president. What matters is the morals of a president, his commitment to the democratic process and the respect to step down if voted down.

[@bubbanc01]

@@celestialsatheist1535 I don't think it would have. I ain't one to praise Trump or say he is perfect, we all know he, nor anyone else is, but we had the best economy of my lifetime when he was president. Dems seem to only be able to destroy.

[@annemurphy9339]

I’ve never wasted my time listening to or reading Harris, and these clips confirm the wisdom of that decision. Your example is one of those truisms that would be funny if it weren’t so profoundly tragic: we’re now looking at the very real possibility of the dollar crashing this fall, and our nation has been dismantled from within. Harris is about to gain a forced membership to the great reset beast system and is he ever going to be disappointed when the one world religion is mandatory.

[@cozmik_kay]

@@asdf-bm4df what do u do when someone blatantly steals from u and everyone seem to agree it's the right thing to do??

[@jaggedskar3890]

Funny how Sam embraces the tenets of Islam: lying justifies the goal of promoting a specific slant of the truth.

[@slothsarecool]

Islamic people don’t even follow their own rules, where’s the peace and tolerance in Palestine when they’re raping and killing civilians? Religion is a plague

[@solidground338]

Lol😂😂😂

[@Xbalanque84]

​@munteza9262 Beyond sucking Mo's you-know-what.

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

atheist religion and islame is one and the same, LOOK: While islame claims that women have semen production near the necklage area, then atheist religion claims that men can give birth. What's the difference?

[@Tinesthia]

“Lying” implies intent. How many times do preachers misquote and misuse scripture? Even the most well versed theologians do this sometimes. It’s a mistake to call Sam a liar or intentionally being deceptive unless he was shown his mistake and didn’t acknowledge it.

[@lordhashimoto4035]

The fact that Sam said all that with a smile on his face truly tells a lot about the insidious insanity of this pseudo intellectual

[@cyberxspeed]

It's amazing how Trump has broken these kinda of people.

[@bisikuku8376]

It’s most shocking thing ever, he broke the left so bad, they destroyed every single institution completely just to destroy or get Trump.

[@Archer170]

Democrat is Sam harris’s religion.

[@mistymoor7114]

Just by being himself, lol

[@mistymoor7114]

​@@Archer170 precisely, Sicialism is Marxism, is a cult.

[@sadscientisthououinkyouma1867]

The amazing part is how even basic logic escapes them. The entire "Trump tried to subvert the election" narrative falls apart when you realize he could have simply declared an emergency, seize emergency powers, and bypass the election entirely.

[@xd-qo1nu]

Harris would be a great Muslim apologist!

[@kazumakiryu157]

😂😂😂

[@temsumongbajamir1582]

Harris Dawah

[@munashemanamike4217]

Excellent use of out of context scripture. He's ready to join team Dawah

[@voicegea3995]

I imagine Harris gonna say shahada and circle around the black stone, Alhamdulillah 😂

[@greywolf7577]

Or a good Christian apologist.

[@alphabeta1337]

Most founders of modern science accepted God. These Internet Atheists know nothing

[@fckCOOL]

😂😂😂😂😂 I'm a believer too, but what you're saying is nonsense, most scientists are sure that there is no God. Show me an astronomer or scientist who publicly says that God exists. don't talk nonsense

[@celestialsatheist1535]

90 percent of modern Scientists are atheists

[@wulfheort8021]

@@fckCOOL You might want to keep those emojis to yourself, because you can not even properly understand a very simple sentence. "Most FOUNDERS of modern science" is what he said. The current day scientists are not the founders, smartass.

[@Norbingel]

@@fckCOOL read what he said again

[@paulstapleton7161]

See ColdCase Christianity. 70%of the sciences such as physics, astronomy etc... Were all founded by Christians whom realized God has ordered our world and our minds and hence our minds CAN understand His order. Isaac Newton said, Atheism is utterly idiotic and odious.

[@SilverYPheonix]

My guy idk if this is bad luck of the algorithm or what, but I've been craving for someone who actually delivers good humor in an intellectual setting like this and you just took gold medal for me, good job!

[@g587802]

I thought he did. Sam:s concern is that Trump will end democracy by discrediting an election and staying in power. Kinda like what Trump attempted to do which is why some state supreme courts are taking Trump off the ballot.

[@joshua-l6m]

This explains a lot, I've had atheists say some random things when accusing God. The few times I've asked them for their reasoning, they'll sometimes take some random poetic verse and apply it literally. I've even had an atheist immediately change positions and say that even if God didn't say it, the fact that something cruel is in the Bible means that it's wrong... like something terrible happened historically or in a parable = God bad. The Harris effect I guess

[@circaSG07]

So if God didn't exist, and because bad things happened by the humans species, I guess Sam would have to argue that humans=bad and something would have to be done about it. These people are so lovely...

[@electricdreamsofsoul8195]

It's no wonder atheists keep making the same accusations no matter how many times or how many people answer them

[@bikesrcool_1958]

Oh my gosh when they take poetic verses out of context it’s so dumb. You already know you can destroy the argument if it’s a poetic out of context verse situation because it just shows how uninformed they are

[@MilitantAntiAtheism]

@@circaSG07 Well... technically, pdf file atheists do not use the pronoun _human_ about themselves, they actually prefer the more precise pronoun _animal._ And I agree. Atheists are not humans. Go study what mao did. Go study what lenin did. What the cheka files is.

[@tornay131]

​@@bikesrcool_1958which verses are taken that way?

[@catharperfect7036]

The 2010s internet atheism movement was the most homo-erotic phenomenon to ever exist.

[@joeluigi2008]

Red pill: hold my bugah-ee

[@FutureNihilist]

A lot of people confuse the created mind for the Creator's mind.

[@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411]

Because it was one big circle j-

[@Kam-12-e2d]

@@thebirdaplierphd.memeology3411😭😭😭😭

[@konyvnyelv.]

What mate?

[@liamhughwest]

Athiests try not to take the Bible out of context challange: impossible

[@bikesrcool_1958]

All they really can do honestly.

[@Dan16673]

The context is whatever you need it to be to justify your prerequisite belief

[@slaughter2517]

they have to do that to support their personal agenda

[@DaveZee823]

What is the context behind owning Slaves?

[@ninjaofspades]

@@DaveZee823 the context is that it is a universal reality and God gave people a better way that was previously not regulated. Debt makes us all slaves. We are a slave to taxes. We are also a slave to our own desires if we do not accept Jesus as our lord.

[@rein60951]

I just had a conversation yesterday with one of his "disciples" and how morality is a spectrum and so sin doesn't exist and "I should give him a chance to define what secular law is" I was baffled; why would I leave God's exact definition of sin and righteous and go listen to an atheist say how murder is in a spectrum of well-being so it can be justified somehow. Being a persistent atheist is a waste of life. Harris is the perfect embodiment of how foolish it is.

[@nikkilengyel]

Everything is a "spectrum" or "umbrella" and "50 shades of gray" nowadays.

[@kazumakiryu157]

Even gender now!

[@toomanymarys7355]

It just start doing awful things to him until he admitted they were objectively wrong.

[@tedoneil7464]

It’s like a buffet of right and wrong, we atheists are therefore the most enlightened champions of science 😂😂😂

[@kazumakiryu157]

@@tedoneil7464 yes. Atheists are the most moral and most smartest. How am I moral without an objective standard? Well, this is simple. There is no need for an objective standard and if you say otherwise you are a liar, dishonest and fallacy

[@shivadizayin]

Shows you how important lying is to Sam Harris. If it’s for his ‘greater good’, lying is warranted. Brilliant video

[@meglukes]

Very Machiavellian of him.

[@mangaranwow2543]

And this shows that for Sam, morality is subjective not an objective truth.

[@catharperfect7036]

He's a PROUD deceiver.

[@rhydyard]

Very much a muslim principle.. so he's in good company..

[@lkae4]

Dillahunty behaves exactly the same way.

[@chrisdolan9579]

The problem isn't the fact that so many people believe the lies, it's that they don't care about being lied to! If it fits with their bias, they welcome them!

[@kevinmiller6443]

"... while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and *being deceived.* " -2 Timothy 3: 13 I used to wonder about the "being deceived" part of that verse and ask: "why would someone willingly and knowingly participate in their own deception?" The answer is narcissism, the foundation of atheism. They know they are liars, they just don't care.

[@Xbalanque84]

God save them all.

[@cnault3244]

"The problem isn't the fact that so many people believe the lies, it's that they don't care about being lied to! If it fits with their bias, they welcome them!" That's one of the simplest & best critiques of religion I have seen.

[@ponderrous2659]

@@cnault3244 Oh look, another religophobe and apologist for liars.

[@mastick5106]

@@cnault3244 Just religion? I think _your_ bias is showing. I'd say humanity in general. I see that dynamic not just in religion (I include atheism in that category), but also in politics, sports, relationships, social issues, and pretty much everything else, even science.

[@lordn3m3sis]

I'm very happy that Sam Harris brought to everyone's attention how corrupted he is, so much for someone whose entire career is based on how "smart and honest he is", pathetic

[@Tinesthia]

Yes because getting a couple verses wrong and having David Wood agreeing with him about lying being arguably good in some circumstances is soooo corrupt.

[@EWTCNewsPodcast]

And sadly he’s still duping his gullible fans into being as smug as they are simple.

[@BhikPersonal]

​​@@Tinesthia Interesting, you still support him. It shows how brain washed you and his other followers are. So delusional. Sam Harris intentionally misrepresents Jesus. He didn't get those verses accidentally wrong.

[@antoniodesousa9723]

sam harris is a machine whose programming has had a hidden bug until the right input was received. input 'trump' result blue screen of death, input 'christianity' result blue screen of death. wonder what other inputs cause the machine to malfunction?

[@Roescoe]

@@Tinesthia Is conspiracy corrupt? That's the big question. I think it's possible to not be corrupt, but you need an authority to determine that.

[@Rationalific]

I am still an atheist, and I was a fan of Sam Harris, but I used reason and evidence to conclude that Sam Harris is okay with intellectual dishonesty and deception, and I'm not a fan of him anymore. I can say that at least I have been consistent. I have also not lost my understanding of X and Y chromosomes, despite society trying to pretend those don't exist or don't do anything.

[@bjf9304]

You're an atheist, but your idea of morality is Christian. Reason has no morality, you can see this on full display here with Sam Harris. He reasoned that lying and gaslighting are for the greater good. All of this reasoning took place in his head with zero acknowledgment of an objective moral standard outside of his head. You seem to be trying to recognize an objective moral law outside of your own mind, something that exists whether you exist or not. In an Atheist worldview, why would there be an objective morality? A right or wrong? A good or bad? How do you account for this moral standard other than how it affects you or how it affects others? What is to say it is right or wrong?

[@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC]

Sam Harris is honest. Go read many CHRISTIAN interpretations of the Ten Minas. They all say Jesus is using the parable to describe himself. Why else would he be speaking it?

[@kalew37]

You should read David Bentley Hart’s book: The Experience of God. It will rock your world/worldview.

[@Gbhmagic]

​@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC i have been a Catholic for 1/2 my life.. then Bacame a Christian (no denomination) inhave heard 20 or 30 different interpretations of this passage in 4 diffrent countries.. Never once did i hear that one not once. You are doing the same thing that Sam does.. you take an obscure interpretation then apply it to all. This is done by all extremists and zealots.. I hear the Stalin Atheist argument all the damn time.. or the Hitler "christian" argument.. All utter trash even with the most basic level of inquiry.

[@Gbhmagic]

@@merc8es oh come on.. if you are going to aregue don't do it with "what you belive is so stupid".. This is the stuff why both sides hate me.. I see the same styles on both sides and they are equally revolting.

[@sjappiyah4071]

Sam is the example of being a scholar in one field does not mean you know what you’re talking about in another one.

[@cnault3244]

Which is why a pastor/reverend/etc does not know what they are talking about when they talk about the theory of evolution or the big bang theory

[@Roescoe]

@@cnault3244 This is very often true. As a Christian it's embarrassing how many have no clue what they're talking about. I believe there's issues with those theories, but many pastors don't even know what the evidence is.

[@Spartan322]

@@Roescoe They should probably start reading into Ken Ham's work at minimum first, or the Institute for Creation Research.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

He is an example of being a dishonest scholar.

[@crusaderACR]

​@@cnault3244my Church never denied those since the moment they came out

[@Vitance]

This guy calling OTHER people narcissists is one of the more amazing ironies I've ever experienced.

[@TheYuvimon]

Couldn't have put it better.

[@wh5254]

😂 indeed!

[@davidmitchell6117]

Precisely!

[@markb7067]

I'm not seeing the narcissism in objective reasoning. He caught Sam, plain and simple. That doesn't necessarily make Sam a narcisist either.

[@JK-xk7km]

So he is a narcist, heck lets say he is the devil himself . Does that mean Sam Harris wasn't lying thru his teeth?

[@vanessaastley4467]

How dillusional is that guy. Sam Harris is a threat to our weak minded.

[@kazumakiryu157]

Yes... We have to equip the new generation with reasons

[@paulh2423]

As a Christian I do not shy away from hearing dissenting beliefs and criticisms. I actually love being challenged since Jesus said to love God with all our hearts and MINDS. I remember I started going down the rabbit hole with Sam Harris and after a few hours thought "If this is the best Atheists can do...I see a HUGE shift towards Christianity soon"

[@jared2244]

" I see a HUGE shift toward Christianity soon" Its a shame you would allow these guys to lead you to start " going down the rabbit hole" Some people are just not deep thinkers

[@paulh2423]

@@jared2244 Please clarify your point. I listened to the opposition to my beliefs. I don't want to remain in an echo chamber. Resistance in weights builds muscle. I wanted to know what people that dont believe like me think and why.

[@donjindra]

Harris does not represent atheists.

[@chrisjohn1980]

Then that's not completely honest. If you really want to engage someone else, you need to entertain the possibility that they could sway you. Otherwise, if nothing they say could change your mind, then why engage? Also, no atheist will base their stance fully on what Sam Harris says. They can and will disagree with him. Atheism isn't an ideology where the beliefs of the ones "in charge" serve as a good way to measure the beliefs of the ones who gathered. It's case by case. And no, he's far from the best

[@paulh2423]

@@chrisjohn1980 I didn't say I couldn't be swayed. You are reading into my statements a straw man and preconceived notions and you don't know ANYTHING about me. I am a Christian based on my choices and understandings I arrived at in my life experiences. I seek out the opinions of NON Christians and want to know what people that don't think like me think and how they see the world. How do you get from ANYTHING I said that I can't be swayed? I don't know you. Can you be swayed from your atheism? You are here listening to a Christian's commentary but I don't ASSUME you are closed minded and take NOTHING away from this video because you don't believe in God....

[@cosmictreason2242]

Did you notice the irony of him fully accepting the "either with us or against us" Logic that the parable is teaching, which he found so offensive he had to lie about it?

[@camelotenglishtuition6394]

Great catch

[@tedmroyer]

Thank you David for posting this.

[@keeperofoddknowledgesociet3264]

My former pastor Andy Stanley is so enamored with Sam Harris that he changed his theology after listening to Sam.

[@Xbalanque84]

God help this lost shepherd.

[@mariajmc6557]

The pastor like many it is usually is , never knew Jesus....

[@toomanymarys7355]

He was never Christian. He treats his church like his family inheritance.

[@humphrey212]

Your formal paster was a fake Christian.

[@rrnonya5472]

I have never seen someone abandon Christ and devolve into the occult so rapidly, unless he was always there and I never paid him much attention.

[@misanthrophex]

It is said that the Bible is the book that makes people atheist. Sam Harris is the person that makes people not atheist anymore. Some decade ago after listening to him, the cat started peeping out of the bag. Like watching a child tell everyone about the great discoveries he had made...

[@Sic-Semper-Tyranniss]

Comparing Sam Harris to a child ironically proves you are intellectually dishonest and should therefore, not be taken seriously. The man’s a neuroscientist for gods sake. I guarantee you he has convinced many people of his free will is an illusion of an illusion and atheist arguments. Just because you wish it were not so (I know the religious love believing that as long as you want something to be true it is) does not make him ineffective in his argumentation.

[@Kanzu999]

I don't know how Sam would make anyone believe in God, but it is however very easy to understand why many people lose their faith in Christianity after reading the Bible, since it is so scientifically inaccurate and internally inconsistent with lots of contradictions, and it claims that God is good even though he is very evil in many of the stories, and also lots of the content of the Bible that essentially is about telling us how to live as good people, lots of these verses are instead great examples that the people who wrote the Bible had different beliefs than we do today about what is good and evil.

[@okkoh5430]

@@Kanzu999atheist argument bingo💀

[@Kanzu999]

@@okkoh5430 Why do you think it's a common argument? And why do you think the Bible is one of the reasons that some Christians leave their faith?

[@divinefavor1256]

​@@Kanzu999when people refuse to do proper research and ask people the right questions with the idea of learning rather than shaming

[@SDsc0rch]

when I was in college, this was called "situational ethics" good job, David

[@DamePiglet]

"The ends justify the means" Welcome to modern America. Thanks, Militant Athiests.

[@el_killorcure]

You should get your money back. Situational ethics in Christianity does not justify deceiving or lying (hiding Jews in basement from Nazis is not lying since they are not entitled to that information, thus you are not obligated to give it to them, no more than if a weirdo just comes up and asks you at knifepoint where he can hook up with your daughter and you tell him what he wants to hear to get away from him but not the truth). It simply states that the circunstance can determine which bad action is the lesser one (like David eating consecrated bread when in hiding from Saul, or breaking the Sabbath to get your goat out of a well, as Jesus said "Sabbath was made for men, not men for Sabbath"). 7:22

[@kevinmiller6443]

All ethics are intrinsically situational. "Ethics" are the morally bankrupt man's 10 commandments.

[@tornay131]

What's wrong with situational ethics/morals?

[@el_killorcure]

@@tornay131 Sam Harris version is basically "the end justifies the means".

[@stoner2439]

Sorry I don't know how Sam Harris is, but he does sound like he is full of it.

[@rhydyard]

Yep 👍

[@etiennedekock3722]

Sam Harris is fantastic. He's not full of it at all

[@shotinthedark90]

You are a hundred percent correct. When this interview went public, I remember commenting somewhere that ironically religious people had known this side of Sam for a long time. Loads of people tried to come to his defense, but they simply do not know to what extent Sam has lied about and misrepresented authentic religious thought. They wanted him to be right, so they didn't care.

[@FactStorm]

"but they simply do not know to what extent Sam has lied about and misrepresented authentic religious thought That's ironic given the number of rival denominations in any given religion. Religious obviously dumbs people down, and it shows.

[@shotinthedark90]

@@FactStorm no, no... This claim that I can't be bothered to differentiate between which denominations believe what while making blanket statements about religion dumbing people down does not fall under "intellectual honesty." One might say that dumb people are just attracted to belief in God, not that it makes anyone dumb. Sam would not tolerate the same blanketing if he held some nuanced position that the other new atheists denied. And I happen to agree with you that the multiplicity of denominations is a problem. It's largely because we have been told, by people like Sam, that the old dogmatic consolidation mechanisms are tyrannical and oppressive to progress in thought. This is itself based an a quasi-religious modern myth that lacks historical perspective and misunderstands dogma, all while propping up its own dogmatic parameters. Anything else?

[@luboshcamber1992]

@FactStorm You're a perfect example of what "blind follower" means.

[@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC]

​@@FactStorm🎉🎉🎉correct. Plus, Sam was not at all dishonest. This parable Jesus spoke, is because he endorsed it. Ask most Christians, they advocate Ten Minas was about Jesus as King, and Christians as his ten servants.

[@FactStorm]

Religious people claim everything, they cant even agree with one another. They are the oldest and most plentiful demographic of delusional people in human history@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC

[@GoGoGadgetDoom]

You should always back up a verse or two. Save yourself a ton of embarrassment. What a maroon.

[@SHANGHELI1]

I don't think he was being moronic, I think it's intentional.

[@MonicaMann-w2b]

Maroon is a color, moron is a very stupid or foolish person : idiot. Not trying to be rude, just a trying to help you.

[@bettymofokeng3404]

Thank you Dr David for correcting Sam Harris in public as he quoted scriptures WRONGLY in public🙏

[@janbuyck1]

And how should the scriptures be quoted then? Because every christian i meet gives me a different explanation.

[@frdm5774]

@@janbuyck1like any other “quote” you might hear. I’d suggest looking and studying for yourself. It’s no different than the quote on FB that is attributed to famous people. So many are outright fabrications. Critical thinking doesn’t stop because a “Christian” says it. Common sense really.

[@tamerfakhri]

​@@janbuyck1there is one, Jesus quoting a parable :)

[@aicram62]

oooh boy we quoted the wittle storwee book incorrectwee

[@AdamMcGrath]

@@aicram62 Which wittle storwee book was quoted incowwectwee...The Bible??? Simple question for you: How many books is The Bible??? If you answer that one cowwectly, maybe we can discuss why English translations of Greek and Hebrew are also very important to get cowwect! I await your reply...

[@commentatorgunk]

this was FANTASTIC.........thanks David, much appreciated

[@adamperez8555]

Sam Harris is a shining example of how easy it is to overestimate self proclaimed intellectuals. That he could so carelessly treat a source, just reveals the disregard he has for it. He obviously isn’t qualified to take the lead in the conversation.

[@GunFunZS]

I think the same often of Jordan Peterson. He is such a lot of things that are useful but nearly any time he discusses scripture be misconstrued as what is said or reverses around elements. Poor example recently I heard something where he was talking about Moses and the burning bush and he discussed the order of Moses hearing the voice seeing the fire and realizing it was on holy ground and he pretty much reversed it. And it wasn't just a casual reversal it was to make a point about our realization causing us to see Holiness as opposed to God's command changing our perception. He never let scripture say what it says he always has to abstract it until he can make it say what he would say.

[@pkeeper419]

It's like what the Bible says about those who profess to be wise turned out to be fools!

[@johnhough7738]

Just because others have a low regard for something doesn't mean that we all should. And likewise, no matter how highly some people regard something ... we all should? A person can be expert in one field and a bit of an absolute dunce in others. So? So respect him for his qualifications and for some of his qualities, disrespect him where you don't think him worthy of respect- -and once that's out of the way try to look at what he's saying with an open mind. Attack his points, but not him, no?

[@johnhough7738]

Damn. I've just been 'outed' ...@@pkeeper419

[@PrivateSi]

Yes, but even woke Neo Atheist preachers are clever compared to Christain preachers. What I disrespect are hypocrites with badly conflicting core values, so I disrespect religious fundies and conservatives as much as libby lefties. They drag us few decent people down. The moral majority of each side are the worst people on the planet.

[@dylanw6303]

Essentially, Sam justifies truth distortion for what he perceives to be best. Which means that living a lie and deceiving others is preferable to walking in truth. If anyone has ever had a friend or spouse that was a liar, you know the impact that has on a relationship. How much more harm would be done to a nation if integrity was not a cornerstone of the way things are done?

[@tablab165]

What absolute hypocrisy! Trump is the lord of lies! And, not that such crucial political outcomes should be so easy to rig, but omitting certain information until just before an election is a tactical omission for personal gain. I put those in the 'lie' bucket. Trump's lie bucket holds as many lies as the other side's... it's just overflowing, so his base forgets by how many he should rightfully be outweighing the opposition. Don't worry, though. It's a trickle-down system.

[@greywolf7577]

Have you seen Evangelical preachers talk about Atheists? They don't try to be honest and fair toward Atheists. They paint Atheists as evil immoral people, just because the Atheists don't believe in God. If honesty is a Christian virtue, then why don't we find it very frequently in those most deeply into Christian culture?

[@TheLookingGlassAU]

Ethics is not his strong point. Do any evil to get what you think is right

[@konyvnyelv.]

Same with theists who kill apostates

[@Kam-12-e2d]

@@konyvnyelv.*catholics

[@MrGustavier]

He wrote a book about ethics...

[@davidjanbaz7728]

@@konyvnyelv. your ignorance is overwhelming: it ain't all theists: only Muslims!

[@kevinmiller6443]

That's the thing... What he's doing IS "ethical." Ethics are intrinsically situational and mostly based on "argumentum ad populum." They are a compete rejection of an objective, absolute, and universal standard of morality (Christianity). This is how atheists claim to be "good," they reject the standard and substitute it with their own. The culture is completely morally bankrupt and Sam Harris is "good" according to current ethics.

[@boliussa]

This is an absolutely outstanding analysis. The funny thing is that Sam was one of the more intellectually honest of the "four horsemen"!!

[@Texas75023]

I agree. The Four Donkeys have fizzled to the "Dizzle". But something David did not focus on was the aspect that "Well Intention-ed" plays in Sam's treasonous reasoning. *ANYTHING* is justified when the person is "Well Intention-ed". The collusion, conspiracy, fraud, deception and out right criminal interference in the election was *"OK"* because these powerful people were "Well Intention-ed".

[@Eu-Abreu]

​@@asunnynight9592how can you not understand that that was an example on how to misinterpret what one says using the same method that Sam uses. Basically his purposely making a joke to show what Sam did with his own misinterpretation.

[@boliussa]

@@asunnynight9592 How wollyish can you be. The Jesus example that Sam distorted is understood by all christians or academics, to be a parable. What equivalent text in the quran, that david has claimed is not a parable, is understood by all muslims to be a parable? Do you seriously think it's relevant to say there are some parables in the quran if he isn't quoting one. But if there are some parables in the bible and he is quoting one then it is relevant. Whatever passage you have in mind in the quran that you think is violent and really a parable, can you show from the tafsir(islamic commentaries, particularly early accepted ones), that it is a parable. I don't think so.

[@Southpaw88]

oh please, show me an intellectually honest apologetic. I'll wait

[@boliussa]

@@Southpaw88 You are changing the subject. Your belief that there are no intellectually honest apologetics or apologists, isn't an excuse for atheists to be not intellectually honest.

[@Angrybogan]

"If the government waives rules for emergencies, it will create emergencies to waive the rules" -Internet proverb. Discuss, Sam.

[@KevinSolway]

"Discuss, Sam." I believe his response would be that not discussing it would be the most beneficial thing to do. Also, banning you from all social media.

[@travelsouthafrica5048]

@@KevinSolway LOL that attempt at trolling failed miserably , are you hungry little troll ?

[@KevinSolway]

@@travelsouthafrica5048 I'm not sure what you mean. Sam Harris doesn't believe in freedom of speech. He believes that he is qualified to determine what speech is allowed and what is not allowed. I think he is delusional.

[@michaelsteinberg205]

I got really hardcore into Sam Harris and the other new atheists a few years ago. I still think they make some pretty good points, but I wish that back then I had found people making these arguments against him. There are a number of ways he has revealed himself to be a slimy authoritarian, even without your argument here, but this just makes it undeniable.

[@bjf9304]

Just beware of the cult of reason. The French Revolution shows how dark this mindset can get without God's law. We are mind, body, and spirit, none of which should be neglected.

[@lizpromontionals1022]

If you know his content well, then you can be the one to show and share those numerous authoritarian moments!

[@Checkmate777]

I saw some of him a while ago and his personality gave it away for me. You can tell he has himself on a pedestal.

[@jasminedavid2756]

You need God, you need someone to trust in, to give up the last thing you think is helping you survive, or get you what you would like in life. You need to be able to trust someone more than human, who sees all, is just, and sacrificial towards you even to giving his only son to die for you. So that you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that your sacrifice is worth it, and is not done for nothing. We need Jesus...

[@jasminedavid2756]

He is the authoritarian, so he thinks he needs to stop everyone else from being authoritarian. It works with everything. Whatever people see as the greatest threat, is because they can be that depraved in their own soul, so they are so acutely aware of the danger of it. God showed me this about my selfishness. I was so afraid to lose anything, because I never gave, and assumed everyone else was the same way. I didn't have hope anyone would ever give to me or help me in my time of need, because I never helped anyone else. However, when I decided to trust God against everything I felt inside me, and started giving, my whole life changed, and could not be happier and more grateful for my new life. If Sam could have some faith in God. he could let go of his need to control, and literally have a more amazing life, a life like he never imagined. You can't do it it without God though,

[@Hello-bn2yc]

a different question altogether. I am from India, and, I have saw over 1/2 dozen video saying that T is an "existential threat", an "end to democracy", but when pressed to support that with evidence based on his action or policy, they follow that comment up with a "Its not worth talking with you", "Just look it up yourself", "I am not going to waste my time with you", "I got to go". I can understand some in very high places are bribed to say the things they say, but what gets to individuals like this Sam Harris? His kind of reasoning can justify anything. But then in his world of moral relativism, and with no objective moral grounding, this is exactly what you can come to expect. Thank you brother David, for yet another quality video. Greetings in the name of Christ Jesus, from 1/2 way across the world.

[@kazumakiryu157]

Wow, brother, God bless you! I am from southeast Asia and also follow Christ! Out of curiosity, can I ask for your story? Like did you and your family convert from Hinduism or anything? My grandfather and father converted from Taoism. I am asking because I would like to be able to witness more effectively to my Indian brothers and sisters that I know!

[@Hello-bn2yc]

@@kazumakiryu157 , India is a very diverse country, and most automatically think, Hinduism, and its 80% of the poplulation. But I came from a Roman Catholic background, and I got saved while living in the Middle East of all the places. God certainly has His way of bringing in His sheep to His fold. My wife and myself followed Christ. Unfortunately I wish I could say that the rest of my extended members did.

[@kazumakiryu157]

@@Hello-bn2yc thank you for sharing your story, brother. And it is very funny that you got saved in Middle East!! I would think you would become a Muslim if you went to middle east. And don't give up hope for your extended family members! My grandmother has not yet been saved, but we are praying. And... GOOD NEWS she recently removed her praying altar(she prays to the Taoist moon god) and started going to church after decades of rejecting Christ! Don't give up hope. Just pray and trust in the Lord. I'll also pray that you extended family members come to Christ, if you want. God bless, brother!

[@Hello-bn2yc]

@@kazumakiryu157 thank you brother...Our God is sovereignly in control and I leave it to Him, having shared with them the Gospel many many times...

[@dcskywalker1982]

I just watched Sam’s popular video and then was like “I’m sure someone has debunked this” lmao here we are

[@nathanbean8763]

We can’t let those darned people know the truth of the matter, because then they would disagree with me! - Sam Harris

[@AtheistReligionIsCancer]

Never disagree or make fun of -commie harris- the prophet of al Lah *sunan abi dawud 4361*

[@hariman7727]

If he declares it morally justified because of his hatred, he has the moral high ground, on his own authority, because he says so, with his own backing, because God/Trump/whatever he declares is bad.

[@Remembering1453]

New atheist knowledge of classical philosophy and history is 0. The most annoying movement i have dealt with

[@mousemoon2000]

Sam Harris is just another proof of prophecy Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools .... Romans 1:22-25

[@chrisxavier1848]

LOL I've had "atheists" accuse me of *lying* when I told them about that clip.

[@Swamp72]

“Atheists”? Why the quotation marks?

[@Call_Me_Trinity]

I've followed Sam for many years and he is consistently inconsistent, gotta give him that. Amazing is the lack of self awareness he has for an "intellectual".

[@S.Carpenter]

Very good video. You're right. You're the ONLY one who caught it. I didn't catch it, till you interpreted it. I thought he was saying he was concerned about whether or not theology was "right" --- but he didn't say that. Thanks for the clarification.

[@hariman7727]

To people like Sam Harris, "Our Democracy" means "eternal DNC party rule without question or opposition".

[@ejtattersall156]

So Jesus follows a political party.

[@hariman7727]

@@ejtattersall156 I said nothing about Jesus and how Jesus relates to the political parties. I stated that Sam Harris' use of "Our Democracy" refers to his own internal definition of "Our Democracy", which means "Democrat party rule/DNC policies only". Why are you making such a random and baseless claim about Jesus?

[@ejtattersall156]

@@hariman7727 New Atheists tend to skew right libertarian. They are dominated by males, who skew to the right. They tend to see capitalism as a natural evolutionary model. They tend to be accused by the left of Islamophobia. There is no such thing as the "DNC party" The DNC is the Democratic National Convention, held every four years, OR The Democratic National Committee, which raises funds for Democratic candidates, even Independents like Bernie Sanders who feels entitled to their money and nomination. The Democratic party has vastly more diverse view than the Republican party, which is currently destroying itself in a fight between the far right and the far right populists. Clearly the authoritarians are on the right.

[@greywolf7577]

Sam Harris literally says in the video that he is thankful for Liz Cheney, who is not a Democrat. Sam Harris says that George Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain are not anywhere near as bad as Trump. So how can you say that he cares about DNC party rule if he literally says that most Republicans aren't as bad as Trump?@@hariman7727

[@valderramalamay2965]

"But that's Harris-y, my friends!" There's no way I was the only one who caught that LOL.

[@andyb619]

I did too

[@leandronc]

The big problem with Harris' position is: If you're wrong about the perceived existential threat, then you're the one doing a terrible evil. So it begs the question what exactly in 4 years of term has the guy done to justify being seen as such a threat (not just things you disagree with, not hypotheticals), and why hasn't this threat manifested in these first 4 years. This threat has to be the airtight core of the argument, but Harris barely defends this.

[@Novelera05]

I’ve always asked myself the same question, they accuse Trump of being an “existential threat” but never specify what exactly he has done to warrant that label but to do right for the country. It’s all about destroying him to continue the status quo.

[@samhandwich9992]

@@Novelera05 I believe it's the view that he's a kind of narcissistic, egomaniacal sociopath that cant be trusted to do the correct thing in any given circumstance, and that he 's a know-it-all who won't heed advice in the any moment. I think Harris would cite Trump's initial reaction in handling the beginning of the pandemic. Don't bother arguing with me about, just giving you a likely reason from what little i've heard Harris say in the past.

[@PLF...]

Hes not necessarily a threat, hes just one of the worst options out there.

[@Stassis]

TDS: Trump Derangement Syndrome. Or, the perception of what Trump represents "trumps" observable and demonstrable reality.

[@greywolf7577]

Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election because he was angry he lost. He tried to end our democracy. I don't see how anyone could have watched the news in 2020 and not seen Trump as an existential threat. Do they not understand that if you let presidents ignore elections, then the citizens lose all their power?@@Novelera05

[@bryanbeatty6627]

Joseph A. Schumpeter - ‘The first thing a man will do for his ideals is lie.’

[@VKF400]

When Sam says "our democracy" he really does mean it's their democracy, not yours if you disagree. Democracy is just a way for him and his buddies to get what they want. If you don't vote like Sam and his friends want to, you're an existential threat to their beloved "democracy".

[@MeTuLHeD]

Totalitarianism masquerading as democracy.

[@iampostal]

kinda like what republicans say

[@interpretingscripture8068]

​@iampostal true...except I haven't heard top leaders among them with such permissuveness to rigging elections and doing whatever it takes to prevent the other side from winning...even abandoning ones morals for the cause. It's quite alarming

[@archonicon]

Democracy™

[@MeTuLHeD]

@@iampostal Hahahah...except not. You'll never hear a TRUE conservative say "we need MORE government". It's just not part of the agenda.

[@spiritman-em4qr]

I used to be an atheist. It was the most religious I've ever been.

[@dcmurphy5157]

With the right delivery, that could be in a stand up routine. Sometimes, it’s funny cause it’s true.

[@sfbmod]

Reminded me of this old philosopher's claim. "This is the real meaning of that mystery which appears so prominently in the lives of great sceptics, which appears with especial prominence in the life of Charles II. I mean their constant oscillation between atheism and Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism is indeed a great and fixed formidable system, but so is atheism. Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas, more daring than the vision of a palpable day of judgment. For it is the assertion of a universal negative; for a man to say there is no God in the universe is like saying there are no insects in any of the stars." - G. K. Chesterton, Charles II, the Twelve Types, 1906, p. 95

[@waynejoiner]

Please explain in clear detail, how being an atheist was the most religious you had ever been?

[@sfbmod]

@@waynejoiner given the irrefutable fact atheism is the religious belief based exclusively on a lack of evidence on purpose. Claiming God may not exist due to a lack of evidence which is the definition of an appeal to ignorance logical fallacy claim. Atheism by logic requires the most blind faith humanly possible to believe their religious claim about God. Atheism is the "blind religion without science" scientists have always complained about. "Religion and science go together. As I've said before, science without religion is useless and religion without science is blind. They are interdependent and have a common goal-the search for truth. ... And it is equally absurd when scientists say that there is no God. The real scientist has faith, which does not mean that he must subscribe to a creed." - Albert Einstein, Third conversation (1948): William Hermanns, Einstein and the Poet: In Search of the Cosmic Man (1983), p. 94 "Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas, more daring than the vision of a palpable day of judgment. For it is the assertion of a universal negative; for a man to say there is no God in the universe is like saying there are no insects in any of the stars." - G. K. Chesterton, Charles II, the Twelve Types, 1906, p. 95

[@crashoppe]

@@waynejoiner these types of atheists seem to be on a crusade to end all other religions. many have a belief system and all in all are mirror images as those they mock. there are even atheist churches

[@dmam412]

D wood crushing atheists.

[@flameguy3416]

He doesn't crush AP though

[@BlacksmithTWD]

Never was much of a Harris fan, first thing I saw from Harris was the Peterson conversation, where Sam seemed to argue that one could infer morality from science. Meaning that either he didn't properly understand science, or believed that one could infer an ought from an is. I considered both possibilities to be too problematic to take the guy serious in regards to morality.

[@liam.4454]

I remember watching these 'nu atheists' a decade or so ago and I always felt there was something off about them, but it was difficult to say because the atheist types were so aggressive and hostile

[@kazumakiryu157]

Yea! If you really believe that this life is all there is, then... Don't waste it debating and attacking theists ig?

[@Timeren2010]

Religion has a looooooong history of agression and hostility. The atrocities of religious people does in fact tick atheists off.

[@anthonyoer4778]

The new atheist movement was post modern narcissism dabbling in Marxist ideology...also other comments missing...

[@ayolovephat]

Cue satan stirring people up madly, determined to oppose CHRIST. And man's depraved nature comes in handy. That's about it, pretty much.

[@ninjason57]

Sam is just a modern day Pharisee except his mosaic law is the "natural law". I watched that interview and my eyes popped out of my head. If that interview didnt reveal the truth of Sam to his believers then nothing will.

[@cheerfulturtlegirl]

I don't even believe he cares about the natural law. He denies the natural law when it points to Christ. As a former agnostic, I honestly believe most non-religious follow the law of self. Whatever I want, I will do what needs to be done to get it. It is a very dangerous situation for society to be. People will betray the truth to further their own agendas. Very similar to what happened throughout the Bible. In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes. (Judges 21:25)

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

I often think whether or not the sophists back then share the same physiognomy with our modern day sophists

[@greentruck8383]

What is it that Trump did that Sam Harris hates so much? No war? More good paying jobs, more black employment? Etc....

[@JesusLovesTheLost]

Textbook Trump Derangement Syndrome. He hates Trump because of the Lefts narrative. He wasn't smart enough to see through the nonsense.

[@TheCybercoco]

Honestly, he sounds like an establishment goon parroting establishment talking points. Probably, just a useful idiot.

[@ninettam8372]

@greentruck8383 Exactly. As if Bush is ok. And is ok to invade and destroy Iraq with no justification. I mean, 500.000 civilians killed are no big deal to Sam Harris clearly.

[@kevinmiller6443]

People like Sam Harris, Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins, etc. are pull string puppets. They were used to undermine the only thing (Christianity) protecting mankind from the evil cabal that's destroying everything right now. Now they obey orders to protect the system we have in place. Sam doesn't have intelligence, he has narcissism and a pay check.

[@justanothergmailaccount1353]

Not be an atheist Democrat…that is pretty much it.

[@rohandoe8361]

David, no atheist talks about an atheist utopia. Your base concept in this video is WRONG!

[@luthasunspell8365]

His base concept is that Sam Harris justifies lying to get the culture he wants. I think he did a very good job proving that.

[@Theknight615]

This video absolutely ends Sam Harris. No one can take him seriously for anything again lol

[@jrd33]

Sure you can, if you share his moral framework. You just have to accept that truth is subservient to morality, which is how plenty of people live their lives anyway.

[@omnitone]

@@jrd33and a lot of people can't be taken seriously for reasons like these.

[@TheCybercoco]

You'd hope so, but there's a reason why the late Greg Bahnsen stated, "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist." (that was later taken by Frank Turek)

[@horridhenry9920]

@@TheCybercoco I don’t have enough evidence to be a theist.

[@mastershake4641]

@@horridhenry9920Sure you do. Things exist, things dont create themselves, therefore something created them. Now you are a theist, congrats. Otherwise you are an idiot.

[@jazzminerose]

When I first started listening to the “intellectual dark web,” I really appreciated Sam’s views and arguments because I’ve always felt that a devils advocate only helps strengthen the truth. During COVID, as he and Bret Weinstein had some disagreements, it became more and more clear that Sam behaves all too similar to the woke left. He just doesn’t bring that same intellectual curiosity to the table anymore. Perhaps he’s at home reading Revelations. In any case, thank you David for shedding light and providing great content.

[@drdirk2]

​@@korvaamiko66Lol, but you mean oxymoron. Ad hominem is attacking the person rather than their argument.

[@GThomas-qq6mp]

You're right, he does act like the woke left, group identity above truth. It is because the woke left agenda is pushed from the globalist agenda. Communism and national socialism are the same thing. It is state control over the people. We observe a western version of the USSR Bolshevist agenda. The talmud universe is one in opposition of logic or logos. Defining the truth themself. Social polarisation is also a dangerous idea that media keeps repeating. One of the propaganda tools. The idea itself is polarising. It proposes a reality that two worlds exists which is absolutely bs. The synthesis is that the literacy we hear in the public domain does not match the symbolism we observe.

[@karinregenass2977]

People don't realise how dangerous this kind of person is. This is a very evil mindset.

[@UrbFoxFact]

this comment has 8 likes....."People don't realise how dangerous this kind of person is. This is a very evil mindset." my human intelligence however tells me that until we know who the comment refers to (it doesn't say) then the logical and intelligent response is to reserve judgment until more data is available. oh wait. or...you can just make assumptions and run with that instead 🤣

[@js5584]

​@@UrbFoxFactAnyone watching the video could make the very straight forward inference that "telling lies about anything you subjectively view as an existential threat is abhorrent." The OP's comment was very straightforward to anyone with half a brain.

[@tsmithson1]

It's not evil, its just different than you. Sam Harris does not wish ill will on you or the world. He's not interested in committing mass genocide on Christians, so why should we want to destroy him.

[@None-y2f]

​@@UrbFoxFactsam Harris, obviously.

[@Dagens24]

Remember when the Catholic church covered up decades of child molestation?

[@spacesciencelab]

This is actually my first time listening to Sam's horrific politics.

[@hashtagspandas4070]

He’s a delusional person with sense of superiority above everyone else

[@fhengal]

It's almost as though people are so afraid of the potential for one kind of fascism (in Sam's case, his earlier concerns about Christian theocracy) that they themselves become fascists for a different cause, using whatever means to bring about their desired end.

[@marschlosser4540]

He also wrote the text book on the joy of raping. He supports known nazis because new atheism came out of nazism.

[@talisikid1618]

Theocracy is not fascism. Fascism is fascism. Theocracy is the future of this century. Better get your mind wrapped around it. It’s beginning all over the world.

[@marschlosser4540]

@@asunnynight9592 Anything but the religion of atheism. But, if it's a religion, it's not Christianity. We have a fellowship, which is require by God.

[@Kanzu999]

Can you explain what the video is about and if it actually has any good points? It's too difficult to take this guy seriously enough to watch the video, even though I'm only 1:30 into it.

[@ratstrydom]

@@Kanzu999he thinks that because Sam Harris misunderstood one verse in the Bible that it completely discredits him. Don't waste your time.

[@MrLavajet]

I gotta remind myself to pray for him.

[@markmcflounder15]

I like Sam Harris & other new atheists. He is super chill & well spoken buuuuuut man it can be intellectually painful to listen to him. He seems incapable of applying his criticisms to his own belief. I think the Moral Landscape was my 4th New Atheist book & man! It is well written but man it is an empty shell intellectually. I really recommend his debate with WLC!!! Harris got bulldozed! Craig gave a knock down argument that went completely unanswered. Harris criticizes faith & embraces the most dogmatic & blind faith.

[@JurijPopotnig]

I liked his book, I didn't know it was an atheist book, and I do think that there is an objective way to assess morality i.e God's will or natural law. Religion is secularised metaphysics which is logical and no religion is really about God it is about control. Christianity comes close to it but it has many flaws too.

[@Norbingel]

@@JurijPopotnig oh yeah, Christianity is so much about control. You can see this in the first few hundred years after it's creation. You can see this in the way the Bible was kept from the layman for a long time. You can see this by just how much authoritarians love it.

[@annemurphy9339]

@@JurijPopotnig That’s just sad.

[@JurijPopotnig]

@@annemurphy9339 What is sad?

[@KraszuPolis]

Craig is a clown, and his discussion strategy is to make plenty of claims (hint you can make claims faster then you can address them), so he will just claim that not all of his points were addressed (he, and anybody with even semi functioning brains knows that it is impossible with debate time constrains). It is just manipulation tactic for morons.

[@patriciocordova449]

The penny dropped hard, thanks Dave.

[@Snow-Willow]

It's "Harrisy" to question new atheism.

[@kevinpulver4027]

David I learned of you from Nabeel's book.Just started watching your videos and i'm a big fan.

[@JulianGentry]

You're right. I didnt notice it the first time. Great video!

[@Texas75023]

Perfectly laid out. Thank you David.

[@jimtuite3451]

None of this Bible quoting makes me believe in God... be nice if it did but its not exactly proof

[@Texas75023]

@@jimtuite3451 I agree, quoting the Bible does not *PROVE* the Bible. However, the *TRUTH* of the things *RECORDED* in the Bible, historically, logically, and though provokingly, should lead an open minded person to ponder it's source. Unfortunately, irrational people like Richard Dawkins are predisposed to ignore reality if it violates their assumptions. Richard famously admitted that *EVEN IF* God personally appeared before Richard, and had a conversation, and performed MIRACLES, Richard would dismiss it as his own hallucination or insanity. That's not very rational.

[@raedwulf61]

I looked up "Garbage Human" in the dictionary. There was a photo of Sam Harris there.

[@konyvnyelv.]

You're surely better 🤡

[@kriegjaeger]

Theyll take any excuse to rebel, tragically. Doesnt matter what lies or twisting of their "principles". Well made as always, I didn't make the connection until you pointed it out, but it's all too common.

[@konyvnyelv.]

Theists will take any excuse to justify their rebellion to reality.

[@kriegjaeger]

@@konyvnyelv. Ah yes, 'reality' where you have infinite genders and men can get pregnant.

[@alisterrebelo9013]

​@@konyvnyelv. Please explain your bias against the supernatural. Will it be something like 'The supernatural doesn't occur so I won't investigate it'?

[@warnerchandler9826]

​@@konyvnyelv.YT atheist commenters will assert anything without evidence if it keeps their troll value high.

[@tunkytunky]

It never fails to amaze me how many people style their lives around militant anti-Christian atheism but have never read the Bible as an adult.

[@NhwNews]

Mohammadans often use this parable as a true story and misrepresent Jesus and the Christian faith. Also the passage when Jesus said "I did not come to bring peace but a sword" is presented completely out of context.

[@kazumakiryu157]

YES! When I first read the Bible it was obvious that the whole I have come to bring a sword thing was for Christians to fight for their faith and the schism that will happen between families when one accepts the Way, the Truth and the Life. I am SUPER well acquainted with this as 2 of my family members had to take leaps of faith in Christ for me to be a Christian today. My maternal grandfather became a Christian when he was 16 from taoism(I'm Chinese) and his father beat him up and kicked him out of the house, but he still chose Christ. This was immediately obvious to me and I remembered all the times I heard Hitchens use that quote to show that Christianity was dangerous. In hindsight, Hitchens was a brilliant rhetorician who could make his arguments sound good when, in reality, he had none.

[@DeLoxley86]

It’s ironic but Sam has a definite God complex

[@justchilling704]

Very much so the clown really thinks he has all the answers except when it’s time to give good ones.

[@rouleauxvanzyl2834]

Indeed, but its actually not that ironic. Atheism, despite what athiests proclaim, is actually a religion based on replacing an external god with oneself as god.

[@j96569]

About a decade ago I become obsessed with evolution for about 6 months. That's when I realized how many atheist scientist will lie in an effort to further their worldview. Dawkins saying no historians today believe Jesus was a real person is a great example of this. That bled out into popular culture. Calling someone a n@zi, means that anything you do to them is okay, because stopping n@zi's is more important than the rule of law or basic morality. I am 100% convinced some of what we are now experiencing is because so many atheist scientists felt the ends justify the means. Now there is a whole culture in America of the ends justifying the means.

[@iampostal]

the thinking world believes evolution as it has not been disproven whereas the silly ark story is i guess something a childs mind could grasp..only oyur silly little cult still raves against evolution sorry the 21st century is so inconvenient to you

[@almightypal]

When your methodology is that an existential threat justifies any means necessary to hold onto power pretty soon everything begins to look like an existential threat.

[@JackSchitt-p9t]

Yes. This is how you discover which principles govern a man's behavior. I once took Sam at his word that "intellectual honesty" was his primary governing principle, but clearly it's closer to "maintaining political power", which makes him little more than a smarter Rachel Maddow.

[@bebopkirby]

Over 50 years ago l asked a half Jewish friend one day if his dad ever made them go to Temple. He said a couple of times a year. l then asked what do they do over there. He shrugged and just said, “well they really dump on the Christians”. Never forgot that. Every time l hear people on some media platform, be it news or entertainment going negative on Christianity or the Muslin faith, well you get the point.

[@jmd42jmd46]

I don't think you all realize that Sam Harris didn't convince anyone to be an Atheist. It is not a religion. As a child, I started having doubts watching the 10 commandments and seeing a rod turn into a snake. I could not make my brain believe that it was real. Many years later wanting to believe in something I actually bought a bible. The more I learned, the more horrified I was at what was actually in this book compared to what I was told about Christianity. Condoning slavery, genocide, selling virgins, bashing babies' heads against rocks ...etc Of course more "magic" like turning a woman into a pillar of salt, rising from the dead, and a TALKING DONKEY. Nonsense. Atheists were already non-believers because of some of the things I mentioned. They may enjoy hearing Sam talk about this but plenty of people don't believe in magic.

[@Detoxing-s4l]

'But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me'. - Sam Harris

[@jakell99]

Triggernometry seems to be a bit of an 'Elephant's Graveyard' at present - witness Neil Degrasse Tyson's self-immolation on there recently. I'm hoping some other big names wander innocently onto there too..

[@twistedtitan5485]

I cracked up when I red that

[@kyrman6038]

Ballooned egos always find a pin

[@booster-b3568]

At no point do these intelectual powerhouses care to explain why Trump would equate to armageddon.

[@philosophicallogic]

This was absolutely spectacular David, thank you so much for taking the time to break it all down. :)

[@youtbe999]

These possessed libs are self-serving trolls.

[@hichamboulos1155]

Exposing Uncle Sam's perversions...

[@phonecallsarejustoverquali1556]

The road from Plato to Machiavelli has always been a short one.

[@docfortune]

He wishes more people would have died from COVID so that his draconian views could be more aggressively advanced. That's all you need to know about him.

[@der_kanadier]

I'm not sure why this is a surprise to anyone. They aren't particularly interested in truth... if they were they would be set free of their disbelief.

[@AJBernard]

100% yep. They're willing to lie to get what they want, because they hold their own desires as a higher priority than the truth.

[@theconfusedoromo5361]

he misspoke two three scenarios and you claim these nonsense? where the f r u when he destroyed his Christian debaters? at least be honest d..ass

[@fioragaming19]

The ad that played before the video was about people converting to becoming jews and "one with isreal" was the organization, how is this recommended ad in a christian channel?

[@geraldburke5147]

Love your clarity and honesty, the humor you inject into your observations is just a nice bonus. Thank you and God bless you and your family.

[@greywolf7577]

It wasn't humor. He was just being an asshole. He was just throwing insults most of the time.

[@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC]

​@@greywolf7577and Roadshow was just lying, as the parable was Jesus talking about himself. Ironically the video maker does exactly what he claims Sam does. Counts on the audience not double checking the videos claims

[@sfbmod]

@@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC he showed the passage in the video. Seems you're either lying or were told to attack a channel you don't honestly watch to defend your church cult.

[@beni4366]

​@CS.AtheistChannel.VoteBidenAOC being a parabable, it can't be taken verbatim. So if you really want to interpret it like that, you can. You could also interpret it in line with the rest of the 99.99% things Jesus said. I would think the intelligent thing to do when in doubt would be to take the enormous context into account to reach a conclusion. But I know, makes the deceiving somewhat harder, right? That's why the prince of the intellectual honesty first implied that half of what Jesus said was evil. He had to set up the deceiving.

[@valleyshrew]

He's not being honest. He knows that in the parable in Luke 19 Jesus is putting those words into the fictional king's mouth because Jesus agrees with them. That's what parables are, they're meant to express your own moral values. Look up any explanation online and you wont find anything saying the king is the bad guy in the parable.