Atheists Watch - A Matter of Faith

[@exiledPostman]

I know the biology teacher is supposed to be some kind of strawman that is meant to symbolize the cold and heartless scientific nature of the secular world and all, but he really does seem like a reasonable pretty nice and patient guy in this. The father is actually blown away that colleges teach biology and evolution. Did he even go to school? I learned this stuff in 6th grade.

[@marthia8015]

+exiledPostman That's the best indication that your propaganda movie fails at it's job: if the strawman comes of nicer then the good guy.

[@jerraldwest8531]

It was probably just Kent Hovind's basement.

[@Schmidtelpunkt]

I guess it comes down to what those people admire. Which is slippery guy who refuses to acknowledge his age and goes fully Dunning Kruger on the topic rather than the charming professor who actually knows stuff (even though the movie is clearly written by someone not understanding evolution or the philosophy of science at all). Which explains a lot of our current reality, I guess.

[@TehSugan]

Evan is a fucking monster. He goes through this entire movie manipulating the other cast members and stirring the shit pot, all so that he can get some godly marital sex. This isn't a Christian movie, it is a suspense thriller about a scheming sociopath slowly reconstructing a girls life to revolve around him. I'm assuming that the next logical progression for the story of their relationship is him hacking her up in a basement so he can use her hair to sustain his chin strap beard.

[@thor30013]

+TehSugan I wouldn't go that far, but he is basically a Christian version of the guy Rachel was dating - they're both only interested in her because they want to have sex with her. Or do the film makers really expect me to believe that Evan would be even vaguely interested in "helping" her otherwise? What, does him being a Good Christian (TM) somehow make him immune to hormones? At least the other guy is being relatively honest about it, creepy as he may be. And he's willing to accept Rachel as she is, rather than trying to mold her into his ideal partner or whatever.

[@TehSugan]

thor30013 Oh I agree. I was mostly joking. You gotta admit though, those dead eyes and that rehearsed, patronizing way of speaking to everyone doesn't do much to help the case against him being a sociopath. Though I guess we can't cite bad acting as a character trait.

[@katicopter]

"I wanna submit" "I'm not sure Jesus is a dom though, Rache." LOST IT

[@theycallmenugget8088]

“You know how much he likes being nailed.” Kills me every time 😂

[@nikoincroatia]

The answer to "Were you there?" is "Yes, I was" and they can't disagree because they weren't there

[@sulfur7082]

XD

[@sulfur7082]

Logic game too strong

[@Wysiwyg43]

Whoa. Shots fired! (I'm just gonna steal that from you...) LOL

[@inuyasha989]

+nikoincroatia now the question is do you have proof that an explosion can do more then destroy matter? no? then sit down :P lol basically if you believe something that isnt even began to be proven you are no better then those you claim to hate on for the same reason and dont give me this radiation readings and universe expansion theres a million other reasons for what those things are there or happening dark matter for example is one of the current reasons for universal expansion coincidences dont prove anything when you have a billion other explinations for it rapid fossilization on the other hand is more along the proof you need to prove something as having a tree buried intacted straight up branches unbroken still rotted to the ground can ONLY happen with a instant burial same with animals being fossilized in mid hunt something a flood that you claim took thousands if not millions of years to make cannot do however a flood that is instant CAN do tho you all wont accept that logic cause itll start proving the bible right and we all know how much you hate thinking that man cant be the main thing in the universe and having the thought of a creator just sickens you to no end lol you can believe what you want but you cant deny the evidence when its there that makes you no better then the minority of bible thumpers you all hate

[@williambarnes5023]

+nightshadow989 said: "do you have proof that an explosion can do more then destroy matter?" I have proof that anyone who thinks the big bang was an explosion is in need of an education, not a debate.

[@XandWacky]

"I don't understand evolution! Now let me educate you on evolution!"

[@yiorgosalkeos1702]

"Why of course my good sir, please explain how evolution created the universe."

[@itsyaboidaniel2919]

+XandWacky wow you have more videos then you do have subs

[@joshbrubaker9089]

You guys truly have the best fucking intro song on youtube!

[@noscopede8329]

Yee

[@hamo1701]

+Josh Brubaker The Quran Reloaded theme is pretty badass too, I dunno...

[@pshuckle7488]

+Josh Brubaker Second best. The best one is the Creationist Cat version of the intro.

[@joshbrubaker9089]

Phijkchu Shuckle I forgot about that, that had me lmao!

[@kekero540]

+Phijkchu Shuckle my pants are exploding.

[@erylaria398]

i feel so bad for the biology professor ._. he seems like a really nice, reasonable guy.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

Man, I hope that Pureflix and whatever company shat this out make, like, a Christian cinematic universe where characters from different movies occasionally cross over with each other. Maybe at one point they can have their Civil War movie between young-earth and old-earth creationism. In their Avengers movie the main characters of each movie can team up against the evil secular liberal atheist professors or whatever.

[@NS-oe4yj]

Yes

[@amandawinter1]

that's would be hilarious, booze would be a must-have to watch, but a good time would be had

[@MegaChickenfish]

+therobotchickenMLP Ah yes, the fight for the ages, *the fight of reason!* Young Earth Creationist: The entire universe was made in a day, except the earth, which took 5 because we're just so darn special. Oh and we had plants a day before the sun to drive their photosynthesis. What do you mean there are stars over 6000 lightyears away that we shouldn't be able to see them if this were the case? Well then the speed of light must've been higher or something. _We just make this stuff up as we go._ Old Earth Creationist: No, that's silly! Clearly these things took millions upon millions of years, _but happened in the exact same order_, so the earth was formed before the sun, and plants existed *for millions of years* on it without being able to utilize photosynthesis, not a mere day! That's more reasonable, right? And in the end they unite over their shared agreement that at least they're better than those _stupid people_ who demand evidence _before_ drawing conclusions.

[@KillingCrusemsPaige]

+therobotchickenMLP Your going to write a fanfiction arn't you?

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

+MegaChickenfish I'd cut off my shaft and balls just so I could have a Vagina for that shit.

[@Burusagi]

The Norse clearly has the best scientific theory on the creation of the world: Odin and Co. killed the bigass Ice Giant Ymir, and later used his carcass to create the Earth, and his blood to create the oceans. Beat that in awesomeness!

[@Laezar1]

+Berserkarn Honestly that makes sense, do you see any ice giant around here? Neither do I. Hail Odin!

[@shadenox8164]

+Laezar And melted ice is water! So of course melted ice giant blood is also water.

[@stephenmarco2927]

+Shade Nox Wait if we are 60% water are we technically 60% frost giant?

[@Burusagi]

Stephen Marco I'd say we're more than that. After all, "Adam and Eve" of Norse mythology were two logs which were turned into humans. Logs come from trees, which grow on land and land is Ymir's body.

[@jaredbumblecrum]

One word: Pastafarianism

[@ChibiGeeBee]

Ever get really frustrated that so many people enjoy the fruits of scientific research- medicine, electricity, cars, the internet, and basically the entirety of modern life- while at the same time denying the effectiveness of that very research? Hell, not even denying, but actively working to foster an artificial "scientific oppression", to feed their need for martyrdom. Some days, it just drives me crazy.

[@tommymeyer8281]

+ChibiGeeBee Hahahaha yeah especially when they do so on the fucking internet!

[@pollypockets508]

ChibiGeeBee me too!

[@Xray21207]

Bro I have a masters in archaeology and paleontology, specialising in human evolution. 4 years of intensive study and research in one of the top research institutions in Ireland.... studying under some of the top research scientists in the field with decades of work between them, millions of pounds of equipment and alot of field and lab experience.... and have you any idea how many random fucknuggets who havn't been in a lab since high school have said to me 'you don't know what you are talking about' or 'Its just a theory etc'.... the face palms are off the scale! 🤦‍♂️

[@pollypockets508]

I always call them on it in comment sections.

[@ozofkamelot2563]

For a movie that's trying to put Christians and creationists in a good light, they made them it total assholes. And the "villain" or "antagonist" of this movie, the biologist, is the nicest and reasonable guy in this movie.

[@ozofkamelot2563]

Jehovah​ Just leave them believing in their fairy tales. If they can't see the contradictions in their holy books and their bigotry, than they are a lost cause. They were believe and brought up into believing into the right God and the right religion. Lucky them.

[@ozofkamelot2563]

Jehovah I do agree that I do not want someone who worship a god as president or have the ability to make laws or pass laws. We all mostly know why we have a country like Israel as "friends" even though their government has done horrendous things.

[@bananadragonfromjupiter]

you mean, that Christian actor?

[@anthonypc1]

This was what had me fooled expecting that the story would be about how bio professor helps this girl through a difficult process of disillusionment and she becomes a scientist in the end or something possitive... Then when I realized this wasn’t that kinda movie... I was trying to figure out if it was some humorless kind of satire ?? I stumble upon this in my top recommended list on Netflix. So I was curious how this movie was going to address the struggle of indoctrinated kids going into a “worldly” accedemic ebironment. But I didn’t expect to get the most anti-progress spin on it, since I didnt think I’d showed Netflix a preference for Christian propaganda before... I’m feeling at least relieved now to see that some others actually saw that and hated it too.

[@Goldarlives]

I feel like this movie was a satire of Pureflix

[@pondersprocket2274]

[9:55] "If he wasn't so dreamy, that would have felt more rapey I bet." Nah. Nah... It's rapey regardless XD

[@kingcoheed1208]

Don't you know the rules for avoiding Sexual Harassment Charges? 1) Be Attractive 2) Don't Not Be Attractive

[@pondersprocket2274]

Kid Coheed *looks at comment* ..... He's not wrong.

[@2008-wii-remote]

Ponder Sprocket oh my gosh, Ponder is here!

[@thatoneguy6139]

Cmon he is pretty dreamy

[@f.u.c8308]

Kid Coheed this is such an idiotic platitude and I am sick of seeing it. Just because a person is considered attractive by many doesn’t mean every single person is attracted to them and even if they are attracted to them doesn’t mean they want someone to force themselves on them. If you are communicating properly you know if they want your advances or not. The real rules for avoiding sexual harassment charges are: don’t sexually harass people. Communicate like an adult and if you can’t do that you are not mature enough to be in a relationship.

[@therebelliousaxel8535]

From what I've heard, the father is more of a villain to this story. And an ass, seriously this whole freaking argument was all because of him cause he didn't understand that people had different views on life in general.

[@jackwalters3928]

Judging from the thumbnail, is that a movie about our lord and saviour Harambe?

[@oddluck4180]

Sadly no.

[@CassandraPantaristi]

Would this thumbnail be about you Cthulhu, our Lord and Savior? :D

[@oddluck4180]

Moonspell Bloodlines (The Virtuous Pagan) I DON'T HAVE MONKEY FINGERS!!!!!

[@CassandraPantaristi]

Cthulhu Oh that's right, you got octopus tentacles, or something resembling tentacles. XD

[@ParanoidAlaskan]

DICKS OUT FOR OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!

[@ThatRandomEncounterGuy]

This is like God’s Not Dead but if Kevin Sorbo was the good guy and everyone around him was a fucking berk. How literally everyone in this film could go the entire movie without breaking Evan’s fucking nose is honestly a feat of Olympic-level endurance I never thought human beings could be capable of.

[@zEropoint68]

"well sir, i certainly understand how you feel, but this is a public school and if i don't follow certain academic standards, i could lose my job. your problem isn't with me, it's with the state academics board. if they tell me to teach creationism as a viable alternative to biological evolution, i will, but they tell me i'm not allowed to, so i don't. what i personally believe is irrelevant. if you'd like to change what i teach, you need to talk to the people who set the rules for me. here's their phone number." movie over.

[@girlinahat3407]

+zEropoint68 would have been better then sitting through this.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

Roll credits.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Unfortunately, because this is a Christian movie, it's gonna go to the dad at the board then trying to sue.

[@TheBonkleFox]

@@tonypeppermint5329 and then even when he loses the head of the school board gets hit by a car and converts before dying

[@tonypeppermint5329]

@@TheBonkleFox That'd true.

[@rasapplepipe]

Everyone knows that the rooster came first then god created the hen from his rib

[@Tsusday]

+Liberated Amon ''mud'' hahaha

[@Greiwulfe]

+Liberated Amon ...thanks I just pictured GOD fucking a hole into the earth and spawning forth Adam...and then decides that rib solution...way easier.

[@sagerider2]

+Liberated Amon That's funny. I remember a Kunt Hovind lecture to a bunch of creatards, he made fun of man coming from mud. And the whole audience laughed. Proving my contention that christians don't read the bible, because if they do, they become atheists.

[@Tsusday]

Marilyn Newman I agree, if you actually don't make the kid learn the religious culture when he's young, when he'll be 14 and in age to think by himself, he'll read the Bible or any other religious book, and believe it's not true. That's why learning kids religion when they're super young is indoctrination. If you let them live how they want without forcing them to learn and embrace it, they'll most likely be atheist. Religion takes it's power from the lack of knowledge and rational thinking, that's what history shown us with the Inquisition and crusades, things many Christians forget when they blame other religions of being ''evil''. Until someone proves me that we do not come from apes with VALID scientifically backed facts, I'll always be an agnostic atheist.

[@nobodyofimprotance7615]

that makes me think why do humans only get the rib thing

[@Jardo]

Shout out to all of us who got here before the inevitable copyright takedown!

[@el_presidente]

fk. I gotta go to work, plz god no copyright strikerino till 9pm

[@nakenmil]

"NO ONE WILL MOURN YOUR DEATH, EVAN!" XD

[@hillelfinder428]

Shaggy Doo look-a-like.

[@theworldiknow6482]

This comment is on here many times and I thumb up every one of them

[@Telos954x]

"Show me where a canine became a non-canine! Checkmate atheists!" - Gman.

[@sagerider2]

+Telos954x The coywolf. A combo of coyote, eastern wolf & dog.

[@Telos954x]

Marilyn Newman "Were you there to see it? Huh? Did you see it with your own eyes? I can't believe you if you ain't see if happen with your own eyes" - Standard Creationist drivel

[@socksumi]

+Telos954x You could throw the same argument back to Christians for biblical claims of miracles and supernatural events. Were you there to witness the talking serpent or Noah's Ark? Were you there to see Jesus resurrect?, etc.

[@Telos954x]

socksumi That just reinforces in their mind that that's a valid arguing point, though.

[@SonicGirl4Ever]

I'm a Catholic and I find your show incredibly informative and entertaining. It's obvious that you really do your research. You've gained a sub from me~ ;)

[@stanjuan1178]

I honestly don't think you can "be a Catholic", and appreciate Hugo and Jake. Either you are not really a catholic, or or you are very disingenuous. I'm not attempting to be an ass either. I just find your comment curious.

[@SonicGirl4Ever]

My beliefs don't prevent me from appreciating comedy, critique, and discussion from Atheists. Hugo and Jake are both very adept content creators and I can relate to a lot of what they take the piss out of (especially corny Christian movies). Besides, a lot of topics they address, such as Creationism, Chick tracts, and even misadventures in the Old Testament are not Catholic pillars.

[@SonicGirl4Ever]

That's because there are a ton (and I mean a real cornucopia) of Christian denominations that all have varied central beliefs. For example, Catholicism the 'trunk' of Christianity where a lot of the original ideas came from, but over the years people have argued this way or that causing a bunch of different branches to form off of it (sometimes for good reason, like corruption in the medieval Church). Chances are if you're talking to a group of Christians of different denominations, it's only natural that you're going to get a bunch of different answers. It's not necessarily because they're wishy-washy, but because they actually do hold a bunch of different 'Jesus-sy' values. |'D

[@Crosmando]

Catholicism has taught that evolution is real since 1950, the difference is that Catholics believe that God created the souls in human beings, while physically speaking humans came from great apes. These days it's almost always protestants (mostly evangelicals and pentecostals) who deny evolution, but there's also dissident Catholics who oppose Vatican reforms.

[@disturbedrocks1996]

Stan Juan r/justneckbeardthings I think you belong here

[@PhilKidding]

I'm glad I have Hugo and Jake to help me through this mess. It's definitely saved me the inevitable alcohol poisoning.

[@Suekru3]

Once a christian asked "if we came from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?" and my favorite response is "well if we came from dirt then why is there still dirt" then they usually shut up.

[@joelgeorgeable]

Well we are dirt, because when we die, we become dirt

[@David_Axelord]

Looks like the Christiano Brothers came to their senses and took the strike down, congratulations.

[@googleisshit8508]

People who seriously think creationism needs to be taught equally to actual biology need to consider this scenario: You're sick and have to take antibiotics to stay alive. There are two doctors who got their degrees at the same school, but one took an actual biology class and the other spent months listening to "gawd diddit" over and over again. Who do you think is more qualified to give you medicine, a person who studied for YEARS to make sure they didn't accidentally kill someone through mis-prescription or a person who thinks snakes can talk?

[@mastermarkus5307]

I also consider this when people think that it should be taught as a "plausible alternative" to evolution: Does your church teach you that the Bible might not be true and that evolution is possible rather than the story of Genesis? It works both ways.

[@googleisshit8508]

Master Markus "And then the LORD did say: LET THERE BE LIGHT! Now, open your science textbooks and we'll discuss the Big Bang alternative..."

[@nmhunter8758]

Hence why there is Christian Science groups who this is their actual strategy. They have priests just pray over someone and tell them they're going to hell if they go to anyone but a priest for healing. Seth Andrews of The Thinking Atheist did a couple of podcast episodes titled Medical Neglect in the name of God on that topic

[@Uzbach]

What do you guys think of the trailer for "I Am Not Ashamed" which exploits the Columbine massacre while pushing Christianity

[@TheBibleReloaded]

+Uzbach Come back tomorrow and see =D

[@andrewtodaro2874]

It's horrible that they exploit that tragedy to demonize atheists. It's sick.

[@imnotanape6009]

***** Satan doesn't give you anything you want, because he can't do anything that God doesn't allow him to do, as we know from the story of Job. In spite of what Hollywood tries to depict in their movies, God is a lot greater than Satan. Satan is more than happy just to make sure you remain lost, and help you take as many lost souls with you as possible.

[@princessfilth2450]

+Imnotanape I like being lost and having a bad time. Hail Satan!

[@luisselby7041]

+Imnotanape I am atheists and I don't believe in demons, devils, Alah, Jehovah. all are fairly tales. ..

[@the_soup2284]

"Evolutionism is a religion" (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

[@brianhall1721]

+the_soup are you saying that as a joke or do you really believe that? Just checking on that....

[@jar-headtsteak6526]

+Brian Hall Whoosh!

[@MrChrisker]

you bet it is i worship my god Bill Nye and his second coming Neil that told me in a book eviloution is real

[@atreides213]

+MrChrisker Fool! The one true god is Darwin, and Bill Nye is his prophet.

[@fashionpatrol2214]

Guys she put the line in quotations for a reason, use your fuckin' heads.

[@cogscriptcode998]

For some reason I always imagined Hugo and Jake were always in the same room when they were recording. This entirely changes how I imagine their conversations when I'm listening to them. Still awesome though.

[@TheBibleReloaded]

+CogScript Code It used to be in the same room up until about 6 months ago

[@ImNormalISwear]

+The Bible Reloaded I cri

[@ninjafaceify]

+The Bible Reloaded you're still in the same room and you can't lie to me.

[@uzumakitak1109]

+The Bible Reloaded But... But I thought you were biologically attached. My childhood is ruined :'c #brokenkokoro

[@Coastfog]

+The Bible Reloaded Well, we're gonna have to take that on faith, don't we?

[@kylerichardson3181]

literally one of my new favorite channels. I'm not personally an atheist, but I love their humor and intelligent thinking

[@WintersunEnsiferumx]

Good on you, mate. Enjoy!

[@stanjuan1178]

I am curious to know if you understand what an "Atheist" is. Because I am willing to bet very very VERY large sums of money that you are indeed far more Atheist than you know.

[@quinn799]

I used to be that way but then I became an atheist

[@kylerichardson3181]

+Stan Juan an atheist is someone who does not believe in God or any theological philosophy. I believe in god, I'm just not offended when others dont, and I'm not a fan of people using their belief of God as liscence to be a douche bag, idiot, bigot, or science denier

[@stanjuan1178]

@Kyle Richardson. Do you believe in Zeus? That he his real, is a god, and is the king and mightiest of all gods?

[@BigZebraCom]

Congrats on getting your video back! The Bible Re-reloaded.

[@JordabHawkeye]

"Hard for me to believe that someone is now causing my little girl *SIGH...* to drift away from what she's been taught" Critical thinking and opening your mind up past preconceptions!? PANIC!!

[@WhoTookMyMirr]

"Do your relatives look like apes" Actually we do resemble apes. Just...putting that out there. Considering we ARE technically apes... just extremely intelligent, sentient ones. With iPhones.

[@WintersunEnsiferumx]

Most of the population today really is incompetent. We, as human beings, have gotten weaker and 'dumber' by the years. I wonder why

[@stanjuan1178]

Apes,,,,,, along with many others in the animal kingdom, are "Sentient". Just saying

[@stanjuan1178]

Well, for the sake of general conversation, I rely on standard definitions. Such as this www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient and this www.dictionary.com/browse/sentient and this www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/sentien . Sentience does not by standard definition indicate "Understanding of ones existence", nor does it specify "having Feelings, Emotions and holding Opinions". Possibly by some definition, these things may be a standard. Clearly by your definition, they are. It's impossible to know if various animals (which are are mostly incapable of communicating properly with us), have an understanding of their own existence. It is equally difficult to say with any certainty rather or not such animals hold what might be recognizable as an opinion. But on the topic of feelings and emotions, I defy you demonstrate to me that my dog and my cat for example, do not express both feelings and emotion. Many animals plainly demonstrate both of these traits. For example, some Parrots are captured in the wild expressly by playing upon their empathy for their fellow flock members. Poachers will often break the wing of a bird and toss it out on the ground to squawk in pain. When other flock members descend to the aid of the injured bird, (clearly showing the capacity for empathy), nets are cast over them in order to capture them. But if we consider such animals to somehow be of a lesser order than we "Humans", the lines become far more blurry when we are talking about our closest living cousins which share 98+% DNA with us. Chimps arguably can display what we might recognize as "Opinion". They certainly have Feelings and Emotions. There is no question whatsoever that they conform to the standard definition of Sentience. But then, pretty much the same can be said for any of the still living great apes, (whom happen to share less DNA in common Modern Man). All of this in light of the fact (of course), that Modern Man ourselves are one of the aforementioned still living great apes. It's not that modern man was birthed by a silver-back gorilla, or a chimpanzee or any other ape still living today for that matter. It's more that we are are STILL APES by definition today, in very much the same way all the species of Great Apes are Apes. Yet somehow, the question of Sentience becomes conflated with what it means intrinsically to be Modern Man. Why? Ask yourself why that should be. Why does modern man, being indeed a great ape ourselves, conflate sentience expressly with our own existence, while ignoring all the life that evolved before us? Why do we consider ourselves to be "Other" when we are so very clearly "Part Of". It's hard for me as a layman to know where to draw the line at sentience. I don't "Think" that a slug or worm for example are necessarily sentient, though I freely admit I have nothing but my own bias to guide me in that assumption. Are my chickens Sentient? Personally, I think they meet the standard definition for sentience. I firmly believe that my dog and cat are sentient. And higher life forms, (What ever the hell that means right?) such as the great apes are unquestionably sentient. There is a reason I take the time to type all this out. As I have aged and grown in wisdom, this question of what it means to be Sentient has become ever more important to me. In my teens, I had no problems hunting and fishing. Nor did I have a problem shooting a dog if it was running dear, or starlings just for being a "nuisance" bird. Don't get me wrong, i am not above shooting a rabbit or deer, starling or a dog even today under the right set of circumstances. But I am not the hunter that I used to be. I have a far more discriminating trigger finger in my middle age. And the thought of abusing animals that clearly in my mind are sentient by the standard definition invokes a wide array of terrible emotions within me, up to and including being moved to tears in particularly egregious cases. It is a never ending source of wonder and consternation when I hear of people treating LIFE on this planet with indifference and often with outright disdain. Consider for a moment the Tragedy that was the murder of the male silver-back in the zoo recently after a small child "Fell" (what a damn joke) into the exhibit. Did the ape choose to be held in captivity in the zoo? No. MAN made that decision. Did the ape design the enclosure? Nope, Man did that. And when inevitably, a MAN child fell into the exhibit, it was a MAN adult that destroyed that Silver-Back's life. And whats most disturbing to me is the nearly universal acceptance that the Silver-Back was little more than a dog in the grand scheme of things. An "Animal", an "Ape", not worthy of more respect and consideration. It was hardly anything at all to make the decision to shoot the ape. There was more consideration given to the financial aspects of the situation than to the fact that the "Apes" actual life was forfeit. It is a rather ugly and disgusting example of "MAN's" terrible arrogance towards and ignorance of, the true nature of life on this planet. And it saddens me greatly that it just does not even rate in peoples every day lives. What does it mean to be "Civilized", or "Accomplished", "Smart", or "Sentient" in some folks eyes? We ARE apes after all. The separation between "US" and "Them" is not so very much. Not nearly as much as "Man" likes to pretend. Man has the capacity to think in a way that even our closest Chimp cousins do not have. And for that, Man somehow believes that we have the right to treat all else with irreverence. Man IS NOT the Pinnacle of success in terms of "higher sentient lifeforms", nor are we the end all be all in the race for intelligence. Modern man will likely be little more than a footnote in history, a misstep (potentially) on the way to something far more "Sentient". On the whole. "Modern Man" displays ALL and more of the wild and cruel truth of our evolution. Some Men are "enlightened" without a doubt. But modern humans are by in large a cruel and destructive species of animal, possibly thee MOST cruel and destructive of any animal that has yet lived on this planet. And that is not something that a sentient being that considers themselves to be "Enlightened" should at all be proud of. As a "Human Being" myself, I for one am not altogether impressed with our notion of Superiority. For all of our remarkable accomplishments, Mankind still has vast opportunities for improvement.

[@ZinTyPhoon]

Actually, most animals are sentient, but humans are sapient, which is why we are defined as homo sapiens scientifically. Sapience basically means we have the ability to think beyond just ourselves and our own existence, and there is even debate as to whether some other animals posses sapience as well, such as dolphins.

[@jaredtimme5851]

Sapien means wise. Homo Sapien means wise man.

[@FreshMelonWater]

You know what, at least this movie made a BELIEVABLE evolution professor who isn't just "Evil Atheist Incarnate," lmao. Kevin Sorbo destroys ALL suspension of belief. This professor isn't close to being as awful of a strawman as Sorbo. Edit: Finished the review, he's kinda too ignorant to be believable after all.

[@FreshMelonWater]

***** Sure, they made him way too stupid, but maybe that's just because the creators didn't understand a lick of evolution themselves, which is USUALLY the case with creationists. Whoever wrote Kevin Sorbo had NO excuse.

[@FreshMelonWater]

+CriTheCricket There's a certain level of personal bias involved, too. Of course, if the creators WERE researching the topic objectively and thoroughly, they'd just conclude that creationism was wrong. There AREN'T any good arguments for why creationism is true OR why evolution is false, and that's just reality. And they can't make a movie about creationism with that. Kevin Sorbo was just worse than a totally incompetently-written character, he was the product of the downright malicious motivation "Let's make it seem like the people who disagree with us are the most hateful, nasty people ever who really just hate god instead of disbelieving in him for intellectual reasons."

[@pollypockets508]

I will give them props for making him nice.

[@abbyother7155]

Watching this again just in the light of your victory. If you guys ever need to go for legal action, I'll donate to your patrion.

[@jackiewolfcin]

hell yeah! watching after victory :)

[@demonstructie]

lol Bowlcut McAmishbeard

[@PressEnter42]

Wait wait wait. She's going into college as a biology major and this is the first time she's hearing about evolution?

[@thor30013]

+Matt Bayes It's like in all those Chick Tracts, how non-Christians living in the US have somehow managed to never hear of Jesus or the Bible. Because clearly that's the only possible explanation for them not being believers.

[@Madway]

She might have majored in God creationology (creationist biology) though. Just say "God did it" for every answer and you pass.

[@matthewbayerl4686]

Maybe she was homeschooled

[@Madway]

Matthew Bayerl And on the first milisecond God created God. God created God, therefore God.

[@Harizl]

I can't wait for 'I'm not Ashamed' to be reviewed, because that is the most ironic name in history. The should be fucking ashamed, very fucking ashamed.

[@Shamandigi62091]

Why does it seem that the people who make pro Christian movies like this seem horribly out of touch with reality

[@ZinTyPhoon]

Because you have to be out of touch with reality in the first place to believe in Christianity?

[@slashbash1347]

Nice sweeping judgment, ZinTyPhoon.

[@ZinTyPhoon]

Slashbash Thanks, I pride myself on being a satirical asshat.

[@thesterndragoon9159]

That doesn't make his statement any less accurate, Slashback. The beliefs of Christianity are 100% at odds with our centuries of gnostic knowledge and scientific discovery. Religion puts you in a dark room and says there's a dragon in it. Science provides the torch that proves once and for all that there isn't one there. In a logic-oriented world, this would also be the END of religion's influence on mankind, but unfortunately there are tons and tons of stupid people who distrust FACTUAL DATA in this pathetic world.

[@catandgrouper4760]

ZinTyPhoon join the the new religion: the church of synicalk&@$holeatism.

[@Wysiwyg43]

I'm watching. I'm helping out. I watch when I have the time. GREAT job, guys! The commentary really helps strengthen my own debates with others. Three years and nine months in with TBR. Wow. PEACE

[@squireoflink]

You guys killed this review. Keep it up!

[@Greiwulfe]

Evan...kind of reminds me of the devil. Hear me out...chin strap beard....bowl cut...sinister grin, uses circular questioning to force you into an unawnserable dilemma and...then makes you sign a contract for your eternal soul...were onto you...Evan...

[@rafaeltrivino1790]

Its a good thing I believe in my lord and savior Frank. Sideburns, Vanilla Ice haircut, and free ice cream.

[@hk4124]

10:10 I like how he keep the $50 lol..

[@alexwalker3824]

I will never not laugh at "pristine honeypot, betwixt ya legs".

[@pdoylemi]

I have to say, I generally find your comedy at the mildly amusing level, but the part about "Sir Evan" and the presumably "pristine and hairless honeypot" was priceless! Well done!

[@vidhead85]

After inviting him to go on believing I would say "You can now leave my office, this conversation's over"

[@cozyyyyyyyyyonYT]

Mr. Plinkett remembers night court

[@Mithcoriel]

Man, questions like the chicken-and-egg thing are so typical for something professors only ask in Christian movies. It assumes the audience has never heard of evolution before, the way they then explain it. Just like characters in Chick Tracts have never heard of Christianity. And it's basically asking: "What's true: creationism or evolution?" when in real life, the students would already have a basic understanding of evolution and just learn the details in class. And no one would bother mentioning creationism (at least not in Europe) cause there's no debate there at all.

[@BenjaminSteber]

Is this movie just a fanfiction of how Christians wanted Nye/Ham to go down?

[@johnregister1079]

YASSSS...exactly what I was thinking

[@TheBlueUrsa]

Hey Hugo and Jake u guys should watch more movies!!

[@MtheAtheist]

This is one of y'alls' best videos ever!!!! Thanks! M.

[@jemshyn]

Yay! It's back! Hi five? (or is there still BS to shovel? I hope not...)

[@GiornoGiovana]

+Jemshyn how about a thumbs up

[@trumanurness2645]

At the school i went too (Christian private school) they luckily taught evolution

[@kekero540]

I think they are modernizing that's why Protestantism is very good at surviving.

[@tekcomputers]

+Truman Urness Yeah, the screaming fundamentalist evangelicals can't stand it, but Theistic Evolution and/or Evolutionary Creationism are both widely accepted in Christendom at this point.... but of course they don't like to mention that because it muddles the "us vs them" diorama of the Evil Atheistic Science Scientists and Teachers vs the Good Persecuted Christian that they attempt to paint the situation as when presenting to their audience.

[@JordabHawkeye]

+SuckyGamer Frankly, I never understood this. What kind of faith honestly allows for people to make these huge concessions that go against what the book actually says? When does it end? Will there be a point in time when Christians will teach about "how you can be a Christian and accept that Jesus never existed?" I'm not just shitposting, either. If anyone has input, I'd like to hear it.

[@JordabHawkeye]

***** I never really said it was bad. It's certainly better than the alternative. But again; where does it end? Is Jesus just an allegory? Is God just a metaphor? Why is it so okay to define exactly what the Bible states as fact and what is just allegory depending on what you personally think?

[@JordabHawkeye]

***** You say I'm using a fallacy, but you also imply that Genesis is the same as calling people literal reeds. That doesn't seem fair. How is Genesis so obviously supposed to be portrayed as a metaphor, especially since people have only been calling it a metaphor as of late to make room for evolution?

[@brabbit330]

22:50 I find it hilarious that these Christian writers think the word "ape" is an insult. It's just a scientific categorical word that describes primates that don't have tails ( this includes gorillas, chimps, orangoutangs, bonobos and humans). Calling someone an ape as an insult makes about as much sense as calling someone a mammal as an insult. Literally no one has used the word ape as a derogatory word since the freakin 1800's.

[@shihoblade]

People think the biggest appeal to religion is the afterli promises but it's not. Its the ego; every religion I have ever heard of ha a taught that the person is important and matters. Even religions with dick gods have such gods care very much about what the ants they crush do. You matter to Zeus cause if he isn't happy with you then he will make that clear. Not apathy but rather attention. So hardcore fanatics don't want to hear in anyway that they aren't special and one of a kind.

[@21exis]

Which is ironic considering pride is a sin by their own holy book.

[@YTDeepshock]

This was definitely worth suffering through for our sake. Thanks for taking one for the team.

[@slashbash1347]

You guys had to post this while I'm at work? Fine. Guess I have something to watch later.

[@DemonicRemption]

I'm four years late, but Jake, I'm a Christian and I'm aware of how a chicken can be the descendant of a T-rex due to my dabbling in Paleontology and Zoology, which are hobbies of mine. Not all Christians are uneducated simpletons

[@WokeandProud]

We all know this and they weren't attacking you (just YEC's).

[@MechaMewtwo]

also im creating a church for the Great Hamburger. we're currently at war with the church of the flying spaghetti monster

[@CassandraPantaristi]

XD

[@MechaMewtwo]

how Dare You Hethan the great hamburger in all his deliciousness nurished the human race as he nurishes the sun itself!

[@CassandraPantaristi]

ALL OF YOU ARE HERETICS! The one true Lord and Savior is coffee! Bow down to the very drink that you drink in the morning! Without Lord Coffee, you wouldn't have the Milky Way! Come worship at the Temple of Coffee.

[@ParanoidAlaskan]

Stop it with this Heresy! THE ONE TRUE LORD IS HARAMBE! ALL BASK IN HIS GLORY! DICKS OUT!

[@viddork]

@Moonspell Bloodlines (The Virtuous Pagan) What has coffee to do with a Milky Way bar? Surely you meant Coffee Crisp?

[@jurgenrembold8379]

Science is false because JEEEEBBUSSSS!

[@The-nw9lo]

our lord and savior jebus crust

[@jac_238]

+freaky Freddy who sacrificed his microwave burrito for us as it is written in the broble

[@GoingYard7]

Do you believe you will talk like that when you stand face to face with God?

[@The-nw9lo]

+Jimmy Weez if i stand face to face with god i would say which one are you

[@GoingYard7]

freaky Freddy Well that simple, I can give you that answer. The one defended in this movie, the God of the bible. Your creator, our savior.

[@randzopyr1038]

Props for the moving trying to accurately portray both sides and still reaching the wrong conclusion. This was an exceptional video, laughed my ass off a few times.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

Man, it's like a creationist watched the Ham vs Nye debate and wanted to take out Bill Nye because all those big words he kept using made him so afraid.

[@redkingrauri3769]

"Does your mother look like an ape?" Hey! My mother was not an ape! But my great grandma was. And her mother was a fish with legs, and her mother was a single prokaryotic cell, and her mother was a self replicating strand of proteins, and her mother was carbon! What? I'm a young earth evolutionist.

[@stephenmarco2927]

Yay it's back!

[@jbiemans77]

I am getting this crazy sense of deja-vu with this video. It looks like it was just uploaded, but I swear I saw it last year.

[@Cerulean0987]

This was one of the most hilarious of your videos!

[@t.paddington2760]

"Consent loses the flavor," - Hugo or Jake

[@Wysiwyg43]

Oh, the lulz with THAT comment! I was like, "Ouch". Sincerely waiting on SJW rape culture opponent to blow it out of proportion.

[@solidaritytime3650]

Bowl-Cut McAmish-Beard XD XD XD I FUCKING lost it!

[@SidheKnight]

I'd like to imagine the fictional creationist dad debate Aron Ra. It would be hillarious. I agree with you guys, these movies don't even try to convince atheists/"evolutionists" about the "truth" of creationism anymore (if they ever did). Their only purpose is to make creationist Christians feel better, and discourage doubting creationists from seriously considering the alternative, and reaffirm them in their (misguided) faith.

[@pennmaster]

I'm watching this movie while studying. This movie, about the beginnings and truth of it all, confirming the deepest of existential beliefs, just to you know, keep it light while I read about how to use a blood pressure cuff.

[@WaifuRuns]

Wow that description is perfect

[@kerilemonshark8347]

oh my glob can we just make a movie already which is about a christian becoming a evolutionist and like changing their dads and teacher's minds??

[@Mazzeltoph]

I am afraid that Will never happen, because atheists, unlike theists, are not part of one big institute that indoctrinates their members or theists, but rather a statement. Atheism is simply the disbelief in a deïty. And between atheists There are many different views on the world ;)

[@breyor1]

Then it wouldn't be propaganda.

[@EdwardHowton]

+KuyuThe Dragon It could be done artfully. Imagine a movie as shitty as this one except where people don't become retarded at the end, and at the very end of the movie every single actor turns to the camera in purest Made-For-TV-Movie style with the words "DOES THIS SEEM RIDICULOUS TO YOU, CHRISTIANS? NOW YOU KNOW HOW DUMB YOU LOOK TO THE REST OF US." flashing on-screen. Okay, well, _relatively_ artfully... Bonus points if epilepsy gets a couple of them.

[@kerilemonshark8347]

***** see this is what i want lol

[@dalekcaan9434]

but that would be a direct attack against Christianity

[@ChrisParrishOutdoors]

The white knight speech at 24:19 is comedy gold

[@megsandy7951]

2:26 I don't know why, but this picture reminds me of an anti-molestation commercial I saw once.

[@robvalue]

Wow! How did they pack so many great arguments into that movie? Great vid guys! I wish I had some money to support you, I love all your stuff.

[@ticktock479]

lol came here after hearing about the legal win on another channel. Love your work guys. Have to say though very happy I live in Australia. We don't have to deal with too many people who use religion to explain their science. Even my Aunt who is a devout Christian and sings in her choir doesn't go that batshit crazy. Faith it seems to be both a boon and a curse depending on the intelligence and rationality of the faithful...

[@girlinahat3407]

ITS BACK!!

[@dawi4ever]

my name is Evan and I am sorry on behalf of this Evan

[@CandyHatsuneWolff]

I never got the Cialis commercial where they're in the kitchen and reality kind of folds out and turns into a wooded (npi) outdoor area. I wouldn't be horny. I'd be asking what the hell happened to my kitchen.

[@pdxcorgidad]

Jake...your reasoning as to why they don't teach creation in school brought me to the edge like...five times. Well done.

[@datareaper1]

you know that weird moment when the ad before the video is a christian rehab facility, well I was just left scratching my head and double checking to make sure I was watching the correct video.

[@zeusmoro4864]

A Matter of the Straw Man. There I fixed the name of the movie.

[@ryukishifan0396]

This movie looks like a masterpiece compared to god's not dead. The professor in this is such a fluffy, gentle creature compared to ratison. I'm legit impressed by how respectful they make the atheist professor considering at the end of the day this is a propaganda film.

[@TheAwesomesecks]

Used toilet paper is a masterpiece compared to God's Not Dead.

[@evfan13]

+TheAwesomesecks Is even Chris-Chan a masterpiece compared to God's Not Dead?

[@nobodyofimprotance7615]

i hate when movies show professors as violnt when irl theyre a passev speises im cant'nt bliv dus shIT HALP MI COMINT IDS DEVOVIANG

[@MiagolioMaxwell]

3:14 I can confirm from growing up in a Lutheran church that this is legitimately how Christians do humor.

[@girlinahat3407]

+Miagolio Maxwell I am a Catholic and we have the exact same humor.

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

+Miagolio Maxwell I grew up in a mix between fundamental baptist and southern baptist, and unfortunately this HILARIOUS "humor" is there as well. *flashes back to visiting missionaries making jokes about how if god made gay people the way they are then he would've gay men vaginas and lesbians dicks* ...ugh...

[@jasonpaulbaker1]

+Miagolio Maxwell i come from a fairly non religious family, and its still the type of humour i'm used to, cheesy corny, but still gives a good chuckle (his back track was deffinately off though). point is his joke of being glad his daughter is leaving is just a common joke, especially in family events that involve speeches. though my favourite variation of this type of joke is john cleese's opening lines in his ulogy to graham chapman.

[@thebeguiler2365]

And on the third day, Hugo and Jake's video returned from the dead.

[@MusicalSeizureGuy]

I was very young but I remember watching Night Court at my great grandmother's house. Don't remember any specific episodes but I remember the show.

[@TheRationalChannel]

This movie is 100% fact based! My faith has been restored!

[@Madway]

29:15 Checkmate Creationists.

[@myself2noone]

Regrading the ape question. Thank you Hugo. Fuck I hate that question.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

I'd never heard that argument before this movie.

[@alexsdemkin]

+therobotchickenMLP Then you are lucky kid.

[@nobodyofimprotance7615]

bless it's soul

[@Rayrard]

So the girl doesn't want to be with the guy who "thinks she's cute" and goes with the creeper stalker guy? When?

[@mvsawyer]

You got me rollin' with your disses on Evan. "Grow. The rest. Of your beard out!"

[@SciPunk215]

29:18 I believe the correct name for this is the "Look at the TREEEEES Argument".

[@DeconvertedMan]

That plant is a durr plant. - and props to anyone who gets this joke.

[@janatownsend-gee3409]

+Deconverted Man such a good memes, I know that alex just loves the memes

[@jackedpie22]

dank mem

[@Sines314]

Actually, I'd say that the chicken came first. First, let's say we can draw some line where some near-chicken gave birth to the first 'official' chicken. However, the egg is still a product of the mothers body. It is the egg of a non-chicken, that contains the first chicken. It will not be until that chicken mates that the first chicken egg will be produced. Now, I could be wrong on this, and the egg is formed by the child DNA, not by the mothers DNA / body. I couldn't find a quick and easy answer online. But I'm fairly confident that the egg (as we think of it in this circumstance, not in terms of an egg cell) is a parental construct. Of course, we could also say that the egg predated chickens by millenia, if we don't clarify that we're talking about "Chicken Eggs".

[@Amoebatirith]

You know, my parents were shocked to hear that a Christian Biology professor studied primarily evolutionary biology. They couldn't believe it.

[@evesapple]

'No one will mourn your death Evan! ...grow the rest of your beard out.' It's criminal you guys don't have more views. You two should be the kings of KZbin at this point, or the earls at the very least

[@JThom529]

I have to read the bible for character study on a man who was brought up Catholic but rejected it well into his childhood but picks it a part in his rants. Any tips on how I can read it without wanting to drink myself to death?

[@MechaMewtwo]

holy shit i just realized that the chicken or egg question is the divide between creationist (chicken) and evolutionists (egg)

[@MechaMewtwo]

p.s. have you watched atheist watch dark dungeons yet? it is in my opinion the funniest thing on this channel

[@invicta1313]

Guys...the rubber chicken was a running gag from Night Court. Holy shit, I really AM the oldest person in the room!

[@Jesses001]

+Richard Rowe I remember the chicken too. I do not remember it being a very funny joke though.

[@taffysaur]

Haha, was it really..? That's actually really funny. I am old enough to remember it, but I never actually watched it. Not sure we even got it on our local TV stations.

[@Jesses001]

+Mychael Darklighter Yes I had to get the bunny ears just right and hold onto one of them to ground it. Oh the old days when smacking the side of the television was a valid repair method.

[@taffysaur]

Oh yeah, I remember, hah

[@lowwattedbulb4641]

Got it back!

[@tristanwolfe119]

I think the ending is a metaphorical way of saying he went to his little lonely office and choked the chicken.

[@Amanda-zg4lq]

Am I the only one who feels bad about the Biologist teacher? He seems like a good teach and fun to have. I would have him teach me bio classes in college.

[@GiornoGiovana]

Lets see, forehead, five fingers, two eyes on a specific part of the face, lips, body hair, five fingers with nails on each one, opposable thumbs, mammals, gives birth, learn sign language and more God tried real hard to make it seem like Humans and apes are similar if they aren't related

[@sababibilashvili5434]

+Shaquielle Robertson IKR. He even made more than 98% of our DNA the same!