Before you buy, know the right AC square footage per ton!

[@jeff8846]

IDK this installer, but I am impressed with the candid openness. If I lived in that area, I would buy from this vendor.

[@jcarney1987]

Never go off of Sq Ft. Use a manual J load calculation and size it properly. I install in Oklahoma and most houses require about 1 ton per 400sq ft. It's better to oversize (with supporting ductwork) using a multistage or variable system rather than under sizing and running 100% all the time. Using multi staging or variable systems will allow the system to dehumidify and cool properly. But if you are using a professional to do your install, demand a manual J load calculation and do it right!

[@jerryhuff86]

Yes yes yes 😊

[@turtledunkknucklebaby8089]

I just had an AC system replaced here in OK. I know nothing about hvac so I called a company. But it’s 1,050 sq ft house. The old unit was a 3 ton. They replaced it and the coil. The unit is a Amana 15.3 seer which ran 4,400, the coil was 2500 the total cost of install was 9400. I think they overcharged me, but I didn’t have time to mess around attempting to get multiple quotes from different places. A lot of places won’t even offer a free quote. Seems over priced just based on what Google “experts” claim the costs should be.

[@witzviewer]

How does a two story effect sizing versus a single story home? How do you properly size the system if you have separate ductwork for upstairs and downstairs, as well as two separate units?

[@jcarney1987]

@@witzviewer do a manual j calculation with 2 zones on separate systems. Also this is where multistage and variable systems really help out as well.

[@watchmanspector1642]

Old school used to be 400 sq. ft. per ton - our manual j calcs normally say at least 900 sq ft per ton, and they have never been wrong. Glass and insulation are huge factors

[@ebenezerservices6363]

In the caribbean we use a rule of thumb of 300 sf to 350 sf per tone and that is for residencial. Now proper insulation makes a difference of course.

[@longjohn526]

I remember back when Sears sold furnaces and A/Cs there used to be a gag thing going around about how the Sears salesman sized them. Basically it was a piece of cardboard with 3 square holes cut in them. You'd stand at the curb, look through the holes and if the house fit in the smallest hole it was 2 1/2 ton, the medium hole was 3 ton and the large hole was 3 1/2 ton. You could also use it to size the furnace, 75,000 BTU, 100,000 BTU, 125,000 BTU respectively. I have a 3 ton Condenser with a 3 1/2 ton evap coil which gives you better dehumidification because with more coil area it pulls more humidity out of the air per cooling cycle.

[@TheMinecraftACMan]

Running a mismatched system with a 3 ton condenser on a 3.5 ton evaporator does not actually have any effect whatsoever on dehumidification, assuming you've correctly set your airflow for the tonnage. It has a slight energy efficiency benefit, as the small amount of extra surface area allows you to run a marginally higher coil temperature while still pulling the same amount of heat from the air. But at the end of the day, 3 tons of capacity is still 3 tons of capacity. Provided the airflow is set correctly, you're going to get the same amount of dehumidification out of either coil.

[@peterdutile8012]

The original poster is correct. I did same for decades. My carrier rep agreed too. You get better humidity control. Yes, 3 tons is 3 tons, but, 6000 btu larger coil isn’t overdoing it. I never went one ton more coil, only half a ton. I never had any complaints or issues.

[@Adreitz7]

The takeaway here is, if you are in the market for an A/C system or soon will be, do what you can to improve the insulation and air sealing of your home first. You will then have a double benefit, where you can buy a smaller, less expensive A/C AND spend less on electricity to run it.

[@benjaminkline4855]

Shade from trees also plays into it

[@nostradamus7648]

What about shade from Marijuana bushes?

[@MK-vc4uc]

@@nostradamus7648 LOL

[@MarkChandler-fb1fm]

Well, this rule of thumb should work on most applications. AC units are predesigned for certain areas of the country. Doing the heat load calculation is the best way to figure out what you really need. As far as a profit margin per ton, the larger the unit doesn't mean more profit. But the price can go up for the SEER rating and what extra items you get with your system. Most contractors put more profit on the medium SEER rating. They call it, Good, Better, Best. Financing plays a big part in this also. The biggest issue coming up soon, the changing of the freon, also they want to eliminate all gas furnaces and package units. In California people pay hidden cost for gas furnaces and package units. Just for general knowledge, the manufacturer raises prices every 4 months. That's why prices have increased so much, inflation.

[@nhojcam]

thanks for your videos! yes, i am in SW FL in what you are describing as Zone 1. our home is 1961 sq. ft. and is built on a 10' plate. most of the ceilings are tray design and extend another 1 to 1.5 feet higher, so... when the HVAC company did our load plan, they had to take into consideration cubic feet of cooling along with square footage. i don't hear a lot of HVAC pros talking about cubic feet. our home faces NE, so we get morning sun. the back of the home faces SW so we get quite a bit of radiant heat in the afternoon through the rear windows and lanai area. our load plan calculated 3.5 tons, and it has been spot on! the system has the ability to pull down 20˚+ from outside temp and our humidity hovers in the 45 to 50% range. run times are long, but this keeps the humidity at bay. we are very comfortable.

[@jamesalles139]

yes, another disadvantage of being oversized (short cycling) is that the system does not run long enough to dehumidify. That only happens when the compressor is running.

[@jamesplotkin4674]

Relative humidity is a very important part of the formula. A unit's sizing could be drastically different when living in Arizona, or on the Florida Gulf Coast.

[@Balticblue93]

100% agree with this comment. RH is huge in factors and latent numbers in your math.

[@rodgraff1782]

@@Balticblue93 very true. You’ve got to get rid of all that latent heat before you can do much with sensible. In some areas, humidity is most of the load. Systems that are oversize will not dehumidify properly, because they are always short cycling

[@Balticblue93]

@@rodgraff1782 Here is Denver, our math is the opposite. We need to figure how much humidity we can actually bring in. I recently read we are more arid than Arizona. I fight for every ounce of humidity I can grab.

[@bobboscarato1313]

@@Balticblue93 You may want to consider a whole house humidifier!

[@Balticblue93]

@@bobboscarato1313 And I think you do not have the entire story. I am an HVAC Engineer and specialize in Home Performance. Every single home / customer I deal with gets a whole-home AprilAire humidifier and filtration system with their new systems or I add them as part of their service contract. We run humidifiers all year round in the Denver 3/4 of the state of Colorado. I think I have that covered Bob. But I appreciate your input. The AprilAire 700 Automatic or 800 are not optional on my change-outs being that the healthiest air is 40%-55% humidity in a home.

[@rtel123]

Interesting thoughts. We discussed square footage when replacing the furnace and I had to argue with them that CUBIC ft is the proper analysis. 10 ft ceilings and sloping cathedral ceilings are becoming popular, and that means more heat for the same floor space in my house.

[@HeatGeek1]

While the volume is relevant, the primary issue comes in at the "thermal envelope" - the point at which heat enters or leaves the home. The more airtight and well insulated the home is, the smaller the system is in general terms. There are many other factors, but the evaluation of the "thermal envelope" in all its features is critical.

[@rtel123]

@@HeatGeek1 of course yours is also part of the calculation, but when the temp drops that one degree to trigger the furnace, heating 50% more air volume 1 degree will take 50% more btu.

[@HeatGeek1]

@@rtel123 sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to express.

[@TheCyberMantis]

Warm air rises. High cathedral ceilings require ceiling fans to push the warm air back down to where the humans are. What good is a warm ceiling if the floor is freezing cold.

[@valeriegould1769]

YES! Cubic feet is a far better analysis choice. My mother's house has a huge cathedral ceiling (well over 10 ft in the living room AND both bedrooms. The square footage is 2079. It came with a 3 ton AC unit which is already a bit undersized. Add to the cathedral ceilings that it was in the Palm Springs area of California where temperatures really soared in late spring, summer, and early fall. The AC bills were huge as the AC ran constantly and it took forever to cool the house. When it broke, we upsized it to 5 ton over the objections of the HVAC tech. The house started cooling down much more quickly and our bills dropped drastically. Our air never turned cold and clammyl. We've had it for 20 years and are having to add freon yearly. When it stops working I plan to get heat pump system for it and make sure it is also a 5 ton system. Thank you for pointing out that cubic feet is a far better choice for many homes especially those with high or very high ceilings. And yes, we have ceiling fans in all of the bedrooms and the living rooms which all have the very high cathedral ceilings. Average summer temps are 112. The 5 ton handles it without any problem. The 3 ton could not.

[@mrg5517]

Could you please do a video on selecting the correct size AC units with split system install for both larger one story and two story homes

[@agpawpaw5912]

O well. 2000 sqf old house, 2.5 ton very old ac. Now outside 96. Inside is set to 73. Yes it working little longer then usual, but my wife is cooking almost all day. I understand your chart, but why do I have to buy 3.5 if my 2.5 is plenty enough. I need humidity out.

[@HealthyHomeHaven]

LOVE the inclusion of a manual J (or heat load calculation)! Size your units properly and your house will thank you

[@JohnCap523]

So will your checkbook

[@pilarmartin5051]

Your helping a lot of people there is a bed thing related to the AC of a house and the alarm of what is going on not too many honesty around thank you again

[@BobSchmitt-kq3gt]

Its volume !! Im surprised you didnt mention variable of ceiling height

[@Darkk6969]

We recently replaced our 30+ year old 2 ton AC unit with a 2 stage 3 ton AC for our two story 950 square foot house. When the old AC was working it's not enough to cool the upstairs so we went with 3 ton. Glad we did as it made a big difference. The house was built in 1989 but it had alot of insulation improvements over the years. It's not really about square footage but actual air volume in the home. Multiple stories also makes a difference. Wish we could afford a two zone AC system but considering it was already expensive as it is we went with 3 ton 2 stage to cover the entire house.

[@valeriegould1769]

Don't forget cathedral ceilings count as another story.

[@rupe53]

@@valeriegould1769 ... maybe not a whole second story, but you certainly need to add something for the extra cubic feet. Oh, and with an older home, you most likely don't have 12" of insulation against the roof. That's a killer right there.

[@jbar_85]

Thankfully you got two stage. Had you not, you would be dealing with humidity issues especially if you live in a humid area.

[@chrismoody1342]

Here is a quick formula to figure what size a home needs. This was passed onto me by the smartest HVAC engineer I’ve ever known. I will say this; that a heat/cool load manual J is the best method. With that said a quick guess can be figured by this simple formula. The home volume x one of these three multipliers, 2.6, 2.8 or 3.0. 2.6 multiplier is for modern well insulated homes. 2.8 for your average 80’s insulated home. 3.0 for older poorly insulated homes with single pane windows. Sounds crazy but it’s remarkably pretty accurate when compared to a load calc.

[@oaouda]

@Chris Moody, what is the units for the home volume for the that formula? For example for 11310 cubic feet what will be the heat/cool load manual J is for modern well insulated home? Thanks

[@nram1]

What's missing here. I have 39,000. What next?

[@Clamjammer]

@@nram1dived by 12,000

[@nram1]

@@Clamjammer Thanks. I need 3.5 ton

[@mikelliteras397]

What about widows and the direction they face? Ceiling height roof color and covering type and most importantly, where the house is located.

[@olegdenissevitch6322]

In ew york tri-state area the installers usually calculate 400 sq feet per ton, not 500. Plus the ceiling height, plus big windows and south side and etc.

[@floridaredneck]

I'm in your zone 1 in central FL. I have a small single wide manufactured home (mobile home) 2/2 with about 750 sq ft and my A/C is 3 tons. I just had it serviced and know it takes 4.9 lbs of coolant (there was a leak and was repaired and recharged from 0). A concern I have over that is there is a 12" round return opening and a 16" X 20" filter housing in an area closed off for this purpose. I can increase the size of the filter opening to 20" X 25" easily (one side is 20" already). I think the current opening is too small for that huge unit. I also believe the A/C unit itself is too large, but we also have about 11 months of summer up to about 98 degrees 6 months of the year. The reason it is so big is because when I bought the home, the A/C that was here went out and I insisted that the seller replace it since I had just moved in around 2020. He did and it appears this Bryant unit was made in 2020, which I just noticed as it was open for repair. I don't know what the size of the previous unit was, but compared to other homes my size, it's fairly large. So I have a newer monster 3 ton A/C for the approximate size of a generous 3 car garage (you might squeeze 4 in here). I have also noticed mold inside the air vents and to a high degree and has to be cleaned ongoing. I don't know how gradual the coolant leak was, so I'm not sure how efficient it has been running. Now that it is at it's peak efficiency, I'd like to know what a good size opening would be best for the one and only return it has. It's my impression that the opening can be too large, as well as too small. Thanks for the video!

[@jons2447]

Thank you for this. I live in a mobile home 43 miles north of Florida in southeast Georgia. IMO, mobile homes need 20%-33% more tonnage for cooling, maybe for heat, too. They are just not built as well, not insulated as well, & ducts are not sized properly, usually. Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

[@tylough]

They have more exterior surface area than a more square shaped house.

[@GazeCema]

Zennihome. The new pre-fab homes are pretty good.

[@tonyhwang3888]

Without Manual J calculation?

[@joejohnson2478]

What you overlooked here which is most important is when the house was built. Homes today are built very tight an energy efficient. A 2000 square foot home built 30 years ago would require a 4 ton unit. A new home, same size and area will only require a 3 ton unit to work efficiently. Rule of thumb is generally 1 ton for every 500 square feet on an older home and 1 ton for every 700 square feet on a new home.

[@bobboscarato1313]

I will use a 3 1/2 ton unit; no less!

[@kenthomas4668]

Not even close. The new house being built around Chicago are way smaller ac than 700 square feet per ton way smaller! I do manual j's and they are all different no rule of thumbs allowed!

[@shawnsg]

You didn't watch the video did you?

[@alanwalker1769]

Height of ceiling, how old and # windows , trees shade, house insulation R value. designing of duct work, your area humidity ...Many factors play a role in sizing your Ac unit.

[@cabron3805]

The best way is to do a heat load calculator. You have to consider the number of windows, the type of insulation, what part of the home is facing south, etc etc

[@thattechguyreview]

Central FL here. New DRH build, 1 story multiple vaulted ceilings, 2800 SF and they went with a 3.5 ton, and I swear this thing is running all the time right now for A/C.

[@steveo601]

Just replaced my hvac here in Ft. Wayne, IN. 2400 sq, 2 stories, 5 bedrooms and a finished basement. Gets pretty warm in the summer. 5.5 tons. That one is too small. You need closer to 5. New build bs. Contractor grade. It’s gonna fail one day after the 10 year warranty is up. Almost guaranteed 🫤

[@tekjunkie28]

It should run all the time. What temp are you keeping? central FL I wouldnt run cooler then 75

[@thattechguyreview]

@@tekjunkie28 75

[@whomeverwherever]

The “flippers” of my house put a 3.5 on my 1134 sq ft home! And it’s been very inefficient. No idea why they chose to go with it. But man…it’s been a huge headache. Just had a huge leak inside of the condenser which costed over $4k to fix. Absolute absurdity. But I had gone 3 days without air at feels like temps of 111° outside and 91° inside. I couldn’t wait several more days for them to install a whole new unit.

[@peterdutile8012]

In NH, I used to under size every central AC system I sold by half a ton for better humidity control! However, that changed after zoning came into play. Plus, variable speed condensing units also changed that belief.

[@bobb7918]

Thanks for the video and the chance to get a rough idea how big a unit a house needs.

[@pauljenkins6877]

I live in a tropical country, and have a 5-ton unit for my 800 sq. ft. living/dining/kitchen area. That is a standard installation in my condo development. Our gym, which is no larger than 1,000 sg. ft., has two units totaling 9 tons. The reason is a total lack of insulation; construction is concrete and glass.

[@davidl2438]

This is a very good video. I replaced our HVAC system about 6 years ago. Our home is 1800 sq. ft. and was built in 1988 with vaulted ceilings. We live in Sacramento where temperatures often reach 106 degrees Fahrenheit. Sizing was a big issue. The old system had a 3 ton unit and it never cooled the house when temperatures were above 86 degrees at which time It would run from 1 to 7 p.m. without cycling on and off. Most of the dealers wanted to replace our AC system with a 3 ton unit. I did not want to do so. However, American Standard and Trane dealers suggested a 4 ton unit. In the end I installed a totally new system, including new ducts, with a 4 ton unit. It works like a champ. It cycles on and off until the temperatures exceed 103 degrees and it cools the house even on the hottest days. I can set the home thermostat at 72 degrees and I can achieve this temperature on the hottest days.

[@zeroturn7091]

That’s interesting I’m in MS with a 4 ton and just shy of 1900 sqft. My unit fails to hit 70 on the thermostat once temps outdoors are above 93. I had a new unit installed and ducts re-wrapped, and it didn’t help. I’m seriously considering supplemental cooling with a ceiling cassette if it comes out cheaper than getting my ducts re-sized.

[@Steve.._.]

​@@zeroturn7091in Nevada it hits 102 outside vaulted ceilings and 1550sq ft a 5 ton struggles to be lower than 87 inside 😂 (its from 2006)

[@tekjunkie28]

Your unit is oversized and your duct is still wrong. A 3 Ton should have been enough with proper duct. 72 degress is too low and your unit isnt runing long enough to remove the amount of moisture or mix the air so your having to set it to 72.

[@tekjunkie28]

@@zeroturn7091 70 is too low.

[@tekjunkie28]

@@Steve.._. You need more air flow.

[@klugger01]

In my thoughts, a climate like Arizona your dealing with a lot more sensible and no latent heat load. in that case I would size that system at 600 sqft per ton. In a case like Texas where you have very high latent heat and high sensible heat load I would size the system at 800 to 850 sqft/ ton. Yes you will have longer run times for the system, but you will bring the RH levels down significantly in the house. That makes for a more comfortable environment. Nobody likes a cold and damp feeling inside the house. It makes for longer run times for the system but that's why the manufactures invented higher SEER units. The Idea is to deal with the humidity first, or the latent heat load. then bring down the sensible heat load. Once you pull the humidity out of the space the temperature automatically feels colder. Here in central Canada/ the parries, we have a very low latent heat load, low humidity. We size residential A/C at 600 sqft/ton. When you move further down east to Ontario, Quebec and the Maritimes they have a very high latent and sensible heat load. In this case its in your best interest to under size these systems for longer run times to deal with the latent heat loads/ humidity first . The worst case scenario is when RH and Temperature intersect at 85 and 85, = instant black mold growing. Nobody wants the in their home. Keep the RH low and everything will be healthy in the house.

[@nostradamus7648]

Great information. What size system do you suggest for a 2000 sq ft single story in San Antonio where average outdoor humidity is 60%. I'm replacing a 17 yo 3 ton 13 seer Trane heat pump.

[@vtrandal]

The compressor’s job is to recapture the gaseous refrigerant that was released into the expansion coil. With on/off control mismatched systems will not work well. But smarter systems with controlled release and recapture will always output perform on/off control systems. In such systems there is no upper limit on the system size excluding the initial cost.

[@darrelldewoody]

Hey guy nice vid in southern az desert we try for 400 sq ft per ton on most older homes but gov doesnot want people to be cool they think when 114 out side we dont need to be cooler than 85

[@mofo9900]

also depends on current duct sizing and if you want to stick with current supply/return ducting or spend big money to up the size

[@jameshampton1832]

There is only one reason to up size or down size duct work. You only change when it is calculated wrong in the first place.

[@LordSaliss]

Sadly I am in zone 1, with a 32 sq ft house, and the builder of this tract only put in 5 ton ACs for these model houses. I have long felt it was undersized, as in the warmer months (about 4 months out of the year) my AC will often run for 2 hours straight without ever turning off just trying to hit a 77-78 degree temp setpoint. Which isnt even that low, and is higher than most people seem to set their AC to. When the unit finally does turn off, it will turn on 10 minutes later and run for another hour just trying to get 1-2 degrees down again. I guess when it finally goes out I will try and get dual 3 ton units, or maybe dual 3.5ton, since 6 ton and above is very uncommon for residential and seems to cost a fortune.

[@donaldgeorge6656]

Two story homes present a different problem in regard to size also

[@BrianNC81]

Two separate units is optimal for a two story home.

[@bobboscarato1313]

@@BrianNC81 True. If you live there for a long time, is worth the extra cost!

[@BrianNC81]

@@bobboscarato1313 I'm thankful our home came with separate units for downstairs and upstairs but it will increase costs when it comes time to replace them. The previous owner of the house had them replaced around the same time.

[@BroadwayLTDProductions]

Yeah when I was a teen we had this big, 3,100 sq foot two story home WITH a basement! Balancing that house was a PITA!!!! But at least the equipment was sized properly (4 ton a/c with 80,000 BTU output gas furnace). The house was located in Indianapolis. Two systems would have been better though.

[@brannonmiller5548]

I live in El Paso. My house is 1500 sqft and was built in 2006. My AC is a 1.5 Ton unit. This is the original system and "overall" the house is cooled and heated without an problems. We do have hot and cold spots. This is a single stage unit. If the website is correct I would need a 2.5 ton system. My concern is that all the ducting will have to be redone to handle the larger Ton size and to balance the system with a 2.5 ton system.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Get an hvac quote(multiple). Also, you might get away with a 2 ton, but the 2 stage type. Also make sure you have 2 returns and don't use filters that are overly dense. I use MERV 11. You could also add a ceiling return if a certain bedroom is problematic.

[@eddyeroyal6024]

When I purchased my new home, they had Put in 3 new units. Home size over 3K, I questioned the servicer he said 2 units would be hard for the home, house built in 2001.

[@timothyvelasquez8787]

After 35 yrs here In fl for the ideal sq ft is 500 ft per ton for a block home . If you have vaulted or high cielings adding 1/2 ton wouldnt hurt . A wood frame house that is raised with old windows i use 400 ft per ton . I have never had a home complain unit is not cooling properly . If you go oversized add a thermostat with humidity control

[@garyo8546]

depends on where you live!!!!!!!!! im here in phoenix try a 3 1/2 ton on a 2000 sq ft home here!!! your going to be pulling that out the first summer.....

[@MindFusion-ij1xl]

I'd add that whether you have dual pane windows, and 2x4 or 2x6 walls is crucial in calculating tons. Lacking dual pane, with thinner (2x4) walls, would bump up the tons a half ton. Really, hope the video creator can opine and welcome correction if any needed. Aside: There is a kind of brick I am investigating that is actually foam that looks like brick. I want to place this on the East and West sides of my home so the R factor (insulating value) is increased, since the walls are stucco and 2x4. Also, choosing the right landscaping, believe it or not, can alter the heat striking your home- if light colored gravel, more heat is reflected from ground to walls. If grass, not remotely as much.

[@ba177ba18]

Houston here and it is hot af!! my 2nd floor AC runs about 13 hours a day!!!! I have a 2 ton AC…

[@jce5479]

I’ve got a 2,300 sq ft 2 story home I’m Arizona, built in 2007 with two AC units (upstairs and downstairs). Had one AC contractor trying to sell me two 3.5 ton units but seeing this video I’m thinking maybe they’re overselling me? Current units are 2.5 tons each and that has worked generally well. Thanks for the video!

[@joeblow123]

in the south, when you figure out the size, then double it for the humidity

[@sanketbhirud3975]

I can understand that heat load can be a factor for the difference of around 20%. I live in India and our general prescription is around 12000 BTU for 150 square feet This is for concrete buildings with moderate insulation. I still don't understand why the difference is up to three times. Can you please explain?

[@billgoodman9103]

A schedule J calculation should be done on any house before choosing a unit. Our new house has 2500sf downstairs and only needed a 3 ton unit. Located in South Alabama, with 2x6 exterior walls with a complete spray foamed envelope. Wrap around porches on threes sides. House lined up on a true East / West axis. All windows E-336 glass. Upstairs has 2080sf, fully foamed and needed a 2 ton unit.

[@Matthewbrown13-g5b]

Manual J or manual N but yes

[@albertpitts3173]

That's the right way to do it.

[@nhojcam]

please talk about cubic feet of air conditioned space along with square footage. tall ceilings can make a big difference in load plan.

[@bryanstaten5585]

How about a log home with 1500 sqft downstairs with open living room and a separate unit for loft upstairs of 300 sqft? Built in 2002. In S.C.

[@APC9906]

Based off this video I think I need a 4 ton vs the current 3.5 ton. Central Florida home built in 2007, two-story, 2260 sqft.

[@jeffflowers729]

My girlfriend has a 1500sf manufactured home built 2005. It seems well built and had to meet HUD standards for construction and insulation at the time. We are in New England. She has a combined hvac unit. The compressor is 3.5ton and the gas furnace is 90btu input 70btu output. I"m looking at installing a heat pump. Companies like Mr. Cool are telling me a 3 ton would be sufficient. (they don't make a 3.5). But even if the 3 ton would be sufficient for cooling, how can it put out the heat btu's of the current gas furnace? Not making sense to me.

[@jghost910]

I live in a single story home 1270sq ft with vaulted ceiling living room/ dining room . Zone2. 2 ton or 2.5 ton. Currently 2ton unit 25 years and can’t keep up when 93 degrees outside

[@justinhouston2789]

I’m in Jarrell Texas and my home was built in 2021 with 1600sqft. I have a 3Ton Carrier unit that seems to struggle with keeping cool in the afternoon during the summer months. Especially if we have company over 6-8 people or have the stove on. It won’t go past 78

[@1245JL]

I would of went with 4 ton. 1 Ton for every 400 sq ft. Thats what I was taught in A/C school in Phoenic, AZ.

[@michine112]

i got a system size for the house like explain in this video, when it was 104 outside the system will continue to run and will not drop the indoor temp below. 80. had company come out that installed it, would say the system performing as it should. it was under sized when in USE but on paper it was correct size.

[@RockAnAhardSpot]

Thanks man, I gotta put a new system in zone 1 and the house is old , early - mid 50's - 1500 sq feet In Oklahoma. In My search I found a 3.5 ton. the old system is incredibly old. I mean, it is a Chrysler. LOL I am thinking it's been in that house since I was a child, it is horrendous. I have been searching and found a complete set up that I can afford, i just have to load it up a drive it to the house, incredibly far really. but the house is old asf , I do plan on upgrading some but there is not going to be much I can do but upgrade windows and insulation. I was pretty sure it would need to be over sized and I am going to go with that unit I found as the universe generally does me correct. LOL Now I just gotta find someone who knows what they are doing to help me install it.

[@heyallenify]

Interesting to look at this rule of thumb, as I bought an older house with a recently replaced HVAC system that was sold to the prior owner. SW Oklahoma, so in the northern part of Zone 1 on that chart. 1969 build, ~1200sq/ft, concrete slab foundation with wood frame construction. Mostly updated to double pane windows, though a couple older aluminum single pane ones. The system installed is a 3.5 ton system, which makes me wonder just why the system was chosen, as it's apparently a full ton oversized for the application. Profit margins? It doesn't run all that much of the time, often only a few hours a day during the middle of the summer.

[@annaqsmith]

Yep definitely oversized.

[@treynewawlins504]

It’s a lot more factors that play a part. A manual j should be performed. Your area elevation average temp etc. your roof , windows , doors , foundation, insulation , roof color , finish on house, Which way your house face all play a part

[@jameshampton1832]

This rule of thumb stuff is a good place to start. However if you are spending a large amount of money for a new system, you really need it calculated properly. Not square feet but cubic feet, all everything has a rating brick out side. Siding, double pane windows. Metal doors, wooden, pier and beam, slab foundation. There are a lot of calculations that go in to sizing a system. Even individual rooms need correct sizing for duct work. Either this man is right know before you buy! Cubic feet. You might like to run a search on manual j calculation on you tube. i seen one once on Williams Plumbing I can't recommend (not enough info.) but it did look interesting. No I do not know or work for Williams.

[@EW-sr5bl]

I live in Abilene, TX. Too bad you are too far away to help us with our HVAC issues. You seem to be knowledgeable and honest. I enjoy watching you videos. I've added it to my DIY Mini-Split project knowledge base.

[@DoeyPP]

I have a DRH home with a 2.5 ton unit on a 2.083 square foot. The funny thing is all the house have a 2.5 ton even the smaller homes.

[@eyeh8theleft]

manual J, is just a guess and a starting point, though some use it as gospel. start small, see what works, then work up if needed, unless you are really poor, then go with manual j, and get even poorer, and more un-comfortable.

[@sildan1988]

I'm in the process of getting central air. I had 3 quotes and each one proposed a different unit size: 2, 2.5 and 3 ton. It looks to me they are pushing their stock instead following my needs.

[@brightboydesigns8325]

Perform an ACCA Manual J block load analysis followed by Manual S equipment selection guidance or you're simply guessing! There are SO many other factors than simply square footage and climate zone. Oversizing an AC unit is the worst thing you can do!

[@valeriegould1769]

The problem is that most HVAC people are NOT doing the load analysis and are instead doing a square footage rule of thumb. We live in the desert in California. Our previous HVAC person insisted that upsizing to a 5 ton would result in a muggy uncomfortable home. But we already had that from the 3 ton that was struggling to keep the house cool when the temps were in the 90s. Once it hit 100 it was horrid. We insisted on the 5 ton. Our electrics that had been through the roof, dropped by about half!! The house stayed comfy even in the 100s. I've been here during the last few weeks when our temps soared to the 120s. The house has been cool and comfy during all that time. It is NEVER muggy. This tells me that the HVAC unit is right sized. Again, most HVAC people just don't seem to be doing the work when people ask if they're sure about the size. And they are not willing to swap out the unit IF they turn out to be wrong. That was the last offer I gave the HVAC person, we'd go with the 3 ton again IF he'd be willing to switch it out at his cost if he was wrong. In other words, put your money where your mouth is. I wish HVAC people would stop with the "Oh noo, it will be oversized!!" For those of us in the desert and with high ceilings, it just isn't true. Those HVAC people are costing people $$$. Please also note, for those of us living in the desert, humidity is NOT an issue. But heat is a BIG issue. So the fears of humidity issues are a bunch of malarky.

[@Average_Middle_Aged_American]

What is a reasonable price for new duct work? 10 runs (10ft - 30ft each). 2000 square feet ranch, single story, AC in attic center of the home.

[@baileysair]

Two things, first it is the starting and stopping that wears out an a/c, longer runtime equates to longer life expectancy. Second, it's not what zone you live in, it's how the home was constructed. You wouldn't put the same size system in a home built 50 years ago as the same size home built 10 years ago. Do a load calculation on the home and size to that. By the way sir, NCI, National Comfort Institute, has excellent classes that teach just that, take one, please!

[@fattysgarage1754]

This is 100% correct. If I up sized my unit, it would short cycle and my humidity would be off the charts. 1884 under air and 3 ton unit works well in sw Florida. Home built in 1998. It will run all day in the summer when temps are above about 90 degrees.

[@captain54526]

If one is using the square feet method that is fine if one has 8 foot ceilings. However if one has 10 to 12 foot ceilings then that will require more BTU's from a unit. Because more inside cubic feet of air has to be run through the unit. Also a two story house should have two smaller home units to be efficient instead of just one. One unit for the down stairs and another for the upstairs as they are complete different zones.

[@carlgriffith4660]

How do you solve the problem with a system that is not getting enough cooled air to the rooms in a house that are furthest away from the air handler and you can feel cool air coming from the vents in those rooms but the force of the flow is really poor?

[@MarkChandler-fb1fm]

SEER rating does save money, I did it in my own home is I would know for sure.

[@bryanrussell6679]

I really like those two pictures hanging behind him.

[@jcepri]

I got a quote about 5 years ago for central ac, but I didn't go for it. I could kick myself now with the prices. Anyway, I remember two different companies say I was right on the cusp of the size. I could go with the larger or smaller. If you're right on the line between two sizes, would you go for the larger or smaller?

[@charlesronk2989]

What if you have a finished basement. Should that be included in your living space.

[@punisher3167]

Please help! I had a 4 Ton Split system put Three years ago. I still have the original contract before the job was started. The “Contractor” poorly installed the system. First off the unit is underneath the lowest part of my two stage deck and only has 8 inch’s of clearance. So it can’t be maintained as well the propellor fan is blowing the hot air up against the deck and recycling it back into the coils and so on. He blamed the realtor lol.” Yes I said her job was done when I bought the house and she is not qualified to give any advice about an HVAC system. He said that is where she said to put it”. So for the past three years I have been contacting him with calls and texts with a detailed log ,because he has done a scheduled no call no show literally 6 times. He was supposed to add three new ducks and another return. Well I’m so frustrated with him I just asked if he would just move the unit to where it should of been to begin with. He agreed, it only a minimum of 8 feet and a max of 10 feet of distance. He was confident that it should be fine because the lines would be less than a of 25 feet from the A Coil and 80k BTU System inside. Well he still has not shown up and will not answer a call or text message. What do I need to do to get him out of the way and get a real HVAC guy to come and correctly do the work? He is licensed and insured. Thanks in advance. 🫡

[@sme7725a]

Bad reviews on Google or Yelp can get company's attention. Besides that, you're free to work with whatever company you choose. Maybe find another reseller of your unit's brand in the area and give them a call. He is trying to brush you off until you stop calling him.

[@casq882]

Hi, I have a package 3 ton unit for my two story house with 1930 Sqf house built in 1995, but the former owner built a sunroom 10 x16 sunroom after the unit was installed that is cold all the time, together with a bonus room upstairs with weak air flow. do you thing that increasing from 3 to 3.5 will be enough or should increase it to 4 ton? Thank you

[@Drewdayz2419]

All right let me ask you this I have garage about the size of a 2 car, it’s really more like a one and a half. I have a 1 1/2 ton unit all new install also insulation all been put in at the same time of the install. It won’t get below 78 runs all day long never shuts off even at night sounds undersize to me but it’s less than 800 ft.², does not have a garage door. I turned it into a workshop.

[@mercorey]

What about ceiling height? My home is 1818 sq ft and every room has 9’ ceilings except my great room which has cathedral ceiling that goes up to 15’ (starts at 9’ and 15’ at peak) how do I size that

[@brianchadwick9405]

Please don’t do rule of thumb. Add a smart stat to add data for a working unit. It will record runtime and outside data. A year would be nice. Not all together wrong, but the variables can cause problems. Heat load is good. Still a fancy guess.

[@XSVryu]

I live in San Antonio with a 2300 sf house and they gave me a 2.5 ton system. My house feels like it never cools.

[@Clamjammer]

Yes that seems way undersized

[@Eman-vp5wk]

Is replacing the outdoor AC unit something the homeowner can do without a license in Texas?

[@ede4345]

My square feet is 1100 SQUARE feet. My current unit is a 2 ton and but I was told I can go up to a 3 ton . Should I upgrade to a 3 ton or get another 2 ton. I live in Stockton CA if that matters. We don’t get humidity like other states but get a dry heat .

[@avflyguy]

Got a question for you. 10-12 years ago found a contractor I *really* like. Was very knowledgible on our situation. 2 story house.. Built in 1981. We're in the concrete jungle of DFW area and bought house in 1997. The HVAC was original from 81 with 2 units; 1 up and one down. I don't recall what tonnage each unit was, but it was not enough on top of 2 system barely functioning. The house was an investors quick flip, and basically it was indeed a pig with a lot of lipstick as we learned. After doing double pane windows and all doors replaced it didn't seem to work so hard. The insulation in each part of upper and lower floors is lacking at best. Rockwool average 3 inch. Masonry siding from bottom of 2nd floor up. Downstairs brick up to ceiling+ a little.. No insulation on attic walls nor any radiant barrier on roof. Upstairs is around 1400 Sq Ft and downstairs is around 1750 sq ft. Contractor suggested a 2.5 ton upstairs and wanted us to do a 3.5 ton downstairs, both single stage systems. For just a little more we went with a 16 SEER 4 ton 2 speed down stairs, which has been perfect match. Downstairs rarely kicks into high stage and can hardly even tell it's on. The upstairs 14 SEER 2.5 ton single stage does the job really well, but it does run quite a bit more during the warm to hot days. These units were installed in 2008 and have for the most part been trouble free. The 4 ton burnt up a compressor about 5 years ago, so he recommended we drop down to 3.5 ton single stage. I really didn't want to do that as we _love the quietness_ of the 2 stage system. So we opted for the 4 Ton 2 stage. Indoor humidity on the really hot days both up and down run in low 40% range during AC season. Over past few years, a new coil and outdoor unit goes thru CAPs ever couple of years.. Thus we are at a crossroads again, as to what to do. _Wondering why he seems insistent on dropping down to a 3.5 ton?_ Cant underdstand the push.. I know the #'s dont line up and a 3 ton would probably be the proper unit, but it does not come in a 2 stage compressor. IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS?

[@valeriegould1769]

I'd get a second and third opinion. I'd also ask the contractor you like why he thinks downsizing would help. It does not seem logical to me. Upsizing does seem logical since normally things burn out when they are chronically overworked. Please let us know what happens. Oh, one other item. I'd google "Why do I have to keep replacing the coil and CAP on my ac". Googling has often found the answer for me quickly.

[@mmmallory1649]

I have 2 floors, one of which is a basement. Each floor is about 900 sq. feet, so 1800 total. I've read that when calculating the BTU and Tonage requirement that you only use 1/2 of the basement square footage, thus reducing the total square footage to 1350 if true. Can someone tell me what size BTU gas furnace (80%) and A/C tonnage (14 seer) I'd need for my situation? Thank you.

[@gtrguyinaz]

I have 2 stage 5 ton units … 2 of them in 3300 sq.ft. And yes they are oversized on purpose.. they run on the low side 90 % of the time but when it is 100 degrees out in the summer, I can pull my house down from 80 to 73 in 1 hour… On peak off peak rates…

[@bobboscarato1313]

The electric company will eat your lunch and dinner!

[@260k1s]

Electric company loves you big time. That's absurd to have 10 tons of cooling in 3300sq feet. Fuck efficiency right? 😂

[@gtrguyinaz]

@@260k1s With 2 stage Copland compressors, normal run is 7 tons of capacity.. In live in Phoenix and my electric bill with no solar is 240 dollars at its highest.. 70 % less than a average.. your remarks demonstrate total ignorance…

[@260k1s]

@@gtrguyinaz what's your cost per kwh?

[@gtrguyinaz]

@@260k1s 9 cents and other info… I have 12 foot ceilings

[@RockinM72]

Duct design is the biggest problem. I have been in business for 30+ years. I’d say well over half the homes we have added a new system to, the existing duct work would not accommodate the size of equipment the home needs or home owner wants.

[@erichorton1440]

HVAC tech here. Most companies in my area size their equipment wrong.

[@mr.boniato6402]

My house is 1677 sq ft and a company installed a 3 ton American Standard to replace my old 3 ton. The issue I am having is the AC runs for only 4-5 minutes as the house is cooled way too fast. What can I do about this?

[@thelouiebrand]

I got a 4-5 ton switchable because I planned to do multiple additions. My house is only 2000 sq ft. Not sure if I wasted money too soon.

[@MsAjax409]

HVAC contractors will invariably oversize an A/C system. There's two reasons why. 1) They earn more on the sale of a larger system, and 2) they do not want to run the risk of a customer complaining it can't cool down their house fast enough.

[@rodgraff1782]

Systems that are two big will short cycle and not dehumidify properly. Excessive starts and stops will kill a system prematurely. The sensible heat ratio, for various areas has to figure into the equation. This has to do with how much humidity the system has to deal with.

[@Machoman-ct]

Thanks for saying " I don't know what I'm talking about, but heard it somewhere "

[@MsAjax409]

@@Machoman-ct I do know what I'm talking about. I've installed boilers, heat pumps, conventional A/C systems, indirect and tankless water heaters, solar systems... Try being less condescending.

[@Machoman-ct]

@@MsAjax409 the main reason people oversize or undersized is lack of knowledge...no need for your resume, I don't hire women

[@MsAjax409]

@@Machoman-ct You're saying that there are HVAC contractors that lack the knowledge needed to do their trade?

[@robertmccombs8254]

How do you insure even air flow

[@chrisidzerda2963]

I have a 1000 square foot house with a 2 ton heat pump. It keeps up up to 90 degrees then above 90 degrees then runs almost all the time. 14 year old house post and beam construction. So 2 1/2 or 3 ton when it fails

[@PardonTheInteruption1]

my home is 1268 feet so do I really need to get a 2.5 ton or wouldn't a 2 ton work fine?

[@davey3765]

Just bought a house who's owner was a HVAC tech, I took a peek in my attic and it looks like NASA did work in it. The main house 2300 sq ft has a Trane XR 16 - the unit is so big compared to what other houses in the neighborhood have. I don't know Jack so I'm guessing this guy went above what he needed. In zone 2/3 in Northern California. I have a single large upstairs bedroom (now entertainment room) which is on its on separate AC. Didnt know houses needed 2 AC units. Are 2 AC units normal?

[@jburr2468]

If I were going to upsize any component it would be the evaporator coil.

[@mytube2013]

Does home structure matter, like one story vs multiple stories?

[@AdamStufflebeam]

how do you determine the ton that you need on homes built before the 60s?

[@martialman.4563]

We have 7 tons counting attached garage in a 1400 square foot home, upgrading to 8 this year.

[@annaqsmith]

7 tpns for 1400sf?? That is way oversized! I hope this is a typo.

[@martialman.4563]

@@annaqsmith Nope, keeps us cool.

[@Liam-ql7tr]

Why are zones based off of sqft not cuft? Cuft seems more relevant for a system

[@jflowers090]

What if your a tweener? Some say I should go 1.5t other day 2t would you go slightly bigger or slightly smaller. I'm zone 2 at 950sq ft. But majority of my house faces south west. Older home but has been updayed with double pain windows.

[@av8rgrip]

A buddy of mine was a mechanical engineer and pilot. He got his HVAC license and used it as a side gig and between career job. He would actually run heat calculations and was surprised most HVAC tech only used the “rule of thumb”. He also found that techs would not properly size the ductwork. This is why there are hot and cold spots in homes. My house is an ice box in my room and the kids are warm because the afternoon sun is shining on their rooms.

[@ethereumplayer1729]

So, in South West FL, 3200sqft 2 story home built 2011 currently has 2 systems one for each floor..you are suggesting a 4 Ton + 3 Ton = 7 Ton total We also have a Large AV closet. Would you tie that into one of those systems or have that run off a separate system or mini split. ??

[@INooB75]

Is it better measuring in cubed feet

[@TrunxKraft3000]

So i live in San Antonio, and this summer has already started off pretty brutal. I have a home that was built in 1995 with a 3 ton Train AC. I’ve been looking to replace the unit, and I’ve met with 5 different AC companies so far. My home is 2,184 sqft and i was told by one company that i need a 4ton unit, two of them said i need a 3.5-4 and the guy that came today said: “A 3 is a little over sized for your house. “Going larger than that would make it worse. Especially with the size of the duct system.” I’m confused 😩. Can anyone help?

[@JStorm24]

what if u have a home that's 1800 sqft but has sunlight hitting it 15hrs a day in the summer?

[@kyngsley1]

Excellent video. a lot of useful information. I currently have a 100,000 btu gas furnace which I need to replace due to 3.5 ton compressor going bad along with 400sqt addition which bring the house to around 1800sqt with 10 big windows. What size btu furnace and compressor would you ruffly recommend for the size house. I think the unit is 28+ years old. Do i go with 115 or higher btu furnace n a 4 ton compressor or stay with the 100btu n the 3.5 ton compressor.