Attack From The Skies: Best Bombers for Mixed Battles

[@fidel-3470]

Bombers need functional gunners, it's completely unclear how or why the AI is triggered to respond to some enemy aircraft but not others. They should consistently use a voice alert when an enemy aircraft approaches 1km and automatically point their guns at it, then engage at 400m to 800m depending upon crew skill.

[@farhadnikzad1514]

I almost second this. Also a Naval-Battles mechanic whereby the player can assign guns to specific targets, x1 to x3 I guess, could be used. As you said, sometimes the AI gunners do not respond to an approaching threat. However, this mechanic can make the AI gunners to do so.

[@jbz.4]

MY AI GUNNERES DONT EVEN DO ANYTHING@@farhadnikzad1514

[@Ficon]

AI bomber gunners have no trouble doing this but yeah, it’s a waste of crew xp to train bomber crews.

[@giovanni2070]

check tim's variety, he proposed a few changes that could really help bombers to enjoy their role

[@sergiotovar6455]

All the bombers need to be reworked. The gunners are completely useless, there's no survivability when it comes to taking fire, sealing fuel tanks and extinguishers do not work. I've had players fly within 3 feet of my plane and the gunners never reacted.

[@SCPFoundationist]

The copy of the game on Roblox having working gunners: I have not such weaknesses

[@heycunt7186]

Well not all, mostly needs some reworks

[@ThaGr1m]

They should activate between 300-600m. But it depends on your crew skill especially the number of expirienced gunners, seeing as that mandates hoe many of your gunners actually use crew stats. Secondly people learn where the gunners are on your plane and might be able to get close just by being outside their range, or by shooting them before getting close

[@IgiSzy]

B-25 is pain.

[@Peterwp]

Also they need to reduce the repair cost, or remove them at all from the game.

[@just_david]

0:28 The Swedish version of the Ju-86 is the B3C, not the B18B

[@theol.1988]

I am just in awe of how, exactly, they mixed this up. They are not very similar apart from both having two engines.

[@just_david]

@@theol.1988 Same dude

[@commandergeokam2868]

I think they would have said the ju88 prolly written wrong in the script

[@bird6107]

🤓☝️

[@just_david]

@@bird6107 I was just pointing that out bruh, don't be an idiot

[@FokkerBoombass]

Lancaster. It's a guaranteed game-ender. (when you blast half your team who facerush a cap that you TOLD you're dropping the funny bomb onto and you get instakicked for teamkilling)

[@ksukon2431]

sadly the french one has a different loadout😢

[@triko03]

Stukas are also very nice. Especially for beginners, you have a really good Bomb that is easy to aim, perfect for precise strikes against enemy defenses!

[@snickersmyknickers5120]

Only 1 time use if you exceed the speed limit

[@triko03]

@@snickersmyknickers5120 yes, but it has breaks and a bomb that has good flight performance. You can easily learn high altitude dropping with it. It was my first bomber i used in ground rb and as i switched to the P47 i was able to precisely bomb at 1km altitude

[@hermanzhang6494]

Personally, I don't play much mix battles, but there was once in Air RB, while flying my Tu-2, half of my right wind was shot off and one of my engnines was on fire, but I magically returned to base and got repaired. It's a very reliable bomber

[@Prime2112]

I love good strategic bombers! Even if they are sometimes harder to play, I would love to see some high/top tier bombers like the B52, Tu95, Vulcan, and even possibly the B1 lancer and the Soviet equivalent

[@SCPFoundationist]

The Tu-95 is basically useless, since it can only be used to carry 50 Megatons nuclear bombs, maybe the Myasischev M4 would be better (B52 but in WW2)

[@SomewhatSummarized]

@@SCPFoundationistM4 my beloved 😳

[@carsamba0055]

​@SCPFoundationist pffft, 48x FAB-250 and a FAB-9000 lolling

[@tplays6688]

A 52 could delete an entire Map, without a Nucelar Bomb

[@SCPFoundationist]

@@tplays6688 What about the Myasischev M4? It can do the same, but, you know, Russian Bias

[@carsamba0055]

There was this plane... the SU-6... a brilliant light bomber/attacker, that could compete with many fighters... It had 2x 7.62mm, 2x 37mm and 6x 100 kg bombs. And then you had the brilliant idea to nerf it down from the skies...

[@arcroyal1258]

It's still amazing bro what

[@Nauta_]

That's more of an attacker rather than a bomber used of tactical purposes tho

[@Daddo22]

I think Do 217 bomber variants definitely deserve a mention here with their 4x 1000 kg bomb load and E variants also have offensive 20 mm cannon. You need to make sure to drop at least one (optimally 2) of those bombs on the way in, otherwise it turns like a brick. It is an excellent bomber to destroy a lot of tanks in a short period, but it's overshadowed by the universality of Fw 190 F-8 and especially by the disgustingly OP Ju 288 C (seems like some premium vehicles are just meant to be OP...).

[@ioan-alexandrutrofin4524]

CAS, Gaijin's favorite child

[@TomPrickVixen]

P1Y1, (its a huge slap in the face that its no longer rank 4) and B-26; (various trees), both good for naval and tank mixed battles. Also the Russian A-20 is classified as a bomber and can carry up to 2 x 1000kg bombs or even 2 torpedo, and any of the single engine Japanese bombers can be a bane to anything.

[@J_Flyer]

My absolute first pick is Tu2 series, very nimble for a bomber, good defense and offense.

[@fangsboi27playz69]

Bane of spookston's existance.

[@rodrigosa7651]

Do you plan to add the Avro Vulcan or the Handley Page Victor or the Vickers Valiant in future updates?

[@tplays6688]

YES the V-Bombers!

[@josecoronadonieto6911]

They already said that their role would be very different than in real life and would'nt be able to be competitive. I personally think that they world need a 3-hour long gamemode to be able to shine. They are simply not planed.

[@tianhaoju4634]

This is a silly choice but I recommend whoever has the Camberra B.2 and try to troll with the 4,000 pound bomb. It has a bomb sight and decent flight models.

[@Sky_EggYT]

You can also use the Wellington, it gets a 4,000 pound bomb at 2.3 I believe.

[@AstroGamer_da_real]

good that your doing more tutorials

[@name18745]

will you ever give us settings so we can preset our radars so we dont need to tune them every match

[@nomadgaming-o7r]

Gaijin are you planing to rework bomb smoke clouds again they look nice sure but i feel like 1000kg and bigger bombs should get mushroom clouds since most big explosion turns into a mushroom cloud when explode

[@henrique2456]

Finally the swedish b18 gets some recognition

[@Zw33dDreamZ]

You left out the Peshka, one of the best dive bombers in game.

[@americanhat3766]

3:00 I love how they include the 288 and not the 188 simply because the 288 is just pay to win and better in every regaurd compared to the 188. Better bombs, engines, and it gets an airspawn aswell as boosters if it _does_ spawn on the ground

[@Rezec75]

The AI gunners in bombers should YELL if any enemy is approaching - or at least - yell when an enemy is opening fire. What if the player in the bomb-sight mode and he is distracted?

[@fousca]

I miss when the Tu-2 can carry 4 500kg bombs, 2 in the bomb bay and 2 on the outer pylon, that's a guaranteed 4 kills. Now you can only bring one 500kg in the bomb bay :(. The 1000kg is nice but most of the time it's too strong for its own good, because they way you play the Tu-2 is you go low, you need to put the bomb delay on 1 sec or more to not get damaged by the 1000kg bombs

[@abdallah5906]

Try the 9 100kg they are really good but aim close or drop 2 per target and 2 1000kg or 500kg and that's 5+ per match , I once got 9 by the same preset

[@fousca]

That's actually a pretty good idea. With that preset you can effectively kill light targets with the 100s and kill heavy target or multiple with the 1000s. Thanks for the tips!

[@abdallah5906]

@fousca it's my favourite cas so i know how to use it Wisley and you are welcome buddy 😊

[@omramchandrajieducational]

a-20g is deceptively good at its br (yes ik it's technically a strike aircraft). It can take a lot of damage, has estinguishers, and also can shoot enemy planes down. Ju-188 is also very fun.

[@kennyabarrera3992]

Finally a update for BOMBS

[@brunobestmom3167]

Honestly the SB2U3 with the right modifications is really good in mixed

[@hermanzhang6494]

I love the tu-2. I think it should even be classified as a strike aircraft. and not purely as a bomber. It's very fast for it's size.

[@DanishWarThunderPlayer503]

Well I personally want to mention the F4U-4B a very good bomber/fighter

[@ORYG1N]

Sheeeeet.... Do-217-E4. 4x 1,000 kg bombs as well as a nose mounted 20mm.

[@williamwiechmann341]

0:34 is the B18 really a Variant of the Junkers 86? I thought the B18 was developed by Saab in Sweden.The B3C is a licensed variant of the Junkers 86, it is found in rank I

[@SvensHistoryLab]

Thanks for reminding me that the JU-288 exists now i will be inn a blind rage for the rest of the day.

[@United.Kingdom.]

lancaster seeing any ground vehicle in Ground RB: Is for me?

[@Window_ig]

Pe8 with the FAB-5000 when it sees an M22: Is for me? 👉👈

[@Juho-uf8si]

Teammates on the ground: Is for me too..

[@abdallah5906]

Tu2 is really good CAS and really underrated

[@britishman1922]

I went with wellingtons 4000, now Lancaster’s 12000, but I have used the beaufighter 21

[@lordwintertown8284]

Video definitely should've mentioned antishipping roles since that's also combined arms ntm the list would be slightly different then again it makes sense to not not mention those when the narrator/ script writers can't pick up a mistake lke with the SAAB B18 apparently being a Junkers 86 (totally not the SAAB B3C).

[@vassillyexclamationpoint]

My personal experience with PE-8 is the following: KABOOOOOOM

[@vincentreim8962]

Why you didn’t mention the arado 234 b2 with one of the best flight characteristics and a solid payload which outruns every prop at it’s br?

[@Odican]

When will you guys add bomber cockpits

[@yakitaki26]

Make a video for best fighter ground attack aircraft.

[@anthonyb5247]

We should get a top tier striker with defensive capabilities and ground pounding ammo

[@Slayer_Jesse]

The BTD is better off taking the sea mines than the 1000 lbs. Don't be fooled by the name, they work as bombs and have more effective explosive filler, almost as much as a 2000 pounder.

[@SilverFerrari85]

Hello Gaijin, how are you? I have a question for you, is it possible in a vehicle to take cover from bomb blasts in any forms of lower grounds, if the bomb explode on a hill or any sorts of higher terrain?

[@russellmiles2861]

Wellington with 4000lb bomb is my favourite

[@average_belgian]

Darn thought this was a tittle for an update :(

[@Hispar-t5j]

I hate pe-8, he destoyed me many times with fab-5000

[@S0n1cB00m4]

What is the "bomb release premission" message u get when u are in sim, and it doesn't let u drop the bombs?

[@eliasalvessouza4607]

"whats your personal experience with bombers in mixd battles?" Planes: show up* Me: well 8 minutes of Match in a tank seems to be the limit of fun gaijin wants me to have

[@tplays6688]

Most of the Time the First Fighters show up after 2 min. Once i was playing the 2C Bis (or a Maus, T 95), and when i got to the battle, i didnt even spotted a Target yet, i got bombed by a Kamikaze Lvl 6 Stuka.

[@grimalkin6676]

A few days ago, got into a match from the start. And around roughly 2 minutes and 30 seconds, give or take, there were already 4 planes in the air. I love playing ground battles. Oh wait did I say ground battles? I mean air battles with the ability to spawn in ground vehicles.

[@ShinAltrus]

Tbh I feel like the b29 is too up tiered since there's a tracking radar on spaa's mean while the Lancaster and pe-8 is on a lower br

[@geoffmorrow3956]

B52 and tu95 could be cool 😎

[@kennedytheretard975]

Strategic bombers definitively do not fit as playable vehicles imo, but if they reworked AI and improved Enduring Confrotation modes, they'd definitively have it's place.

[@furygaming4770]

How about adding a proximity voice chat and make it like a real radio voice or a channel for the team or for close enemy in ground and air

[@roemervankuilenburg5088]

There is already a voice chat function in game, however it is rarely used.

[@Dweller_from_the_fog]

#2:54 it's so funny how all three of the tanks die LOL😂

[@Soldado.Menino]

Bombers is very good!

[@Flame10_falcon]

day 38 of waiting for Polish-Czechoslovakian tech tree (i have no idea if im counting the days corectly youtube doesn't show the exact date)

[@franciscohughes1757]

GIVE US NEW GAME MODES

[@starwarsgeek1565S1]

you forgot the Lancaster with the 12000lb bomb

[@GuitarHeroAddict92]

Tu2 serie bombers are masters in CAS on there respected BR

[@SD78]

Lancaster. 12,000lb bomb annihilates two football fields.

[@joaoarmandowiteck760]

Day 2: Can we have F-22 and Su-57 in the game *please* ?

[@eorfdengineer]

gaijin you know how unfun and and utterly bad the bomber system is please dont pretend its not

[@rasa6225]

Can you add more WWII planes and tanks in the next update?

[@bren2385]

ITS ALSO STUPID THAT PLANES TAKE STEAL TOP SPOTS IN GROUND BATTLES WHEN ITS SUPPOSED TO BE GROUND BATTLES FOR **GROUND VEHICLES** 🤯🤯🤯

[@triko03]

I mean, naval and ground battles are all mixed battles. I mean, if they remove aircraft from mixed battles, they have to rework the BR system. Every AA would be much lower, super heavys, open tops etc. Would be much higher in the BR and it would destroy the gameplay. The best way to destroy dominating enemys are aircrafts. It‘s also often the case that a team takes all points and destroys the entire team but with good cas-support they can turn the game instantly, otherwise most games would be decided after 3-5 minutes. War Thunder was always a game that mixed the battlefield, if you don‘t like it, play WoT

[@bren2385]

​@@triko03 YEAH BUT NOT ALWAYS.. WHEN YOU ARE FACING ENTIRE ENEMY TEAMS ALONE BECAUSE OF ONE TIME SPAWNERS AND TEAM ARE IN PLANES CONSTANTLY LEAVING BATTLESPACE TO RELOAD.. ITS QUITE THE OPPOSITE THAT PLANES ARE NEGATIVE TO GROUND BATTLES (THERES AIR BATTLES AND NAVAL BATTLES FOR PLANES)

[@triko03]

@@bren2385 Naval battles are pretty much the same a bit more extreme in my opinion actually. But it won‘t solve the problem that groundbattles without aircraft need completely new BRs. A Maus can‘t be on 7.7 anymore, it would be way to op but on 8.0 it will be useless. The M18 would be probably 6.0, every AA that is not special or good against tanks is like 1.0-3.0 (that includes even modern AA that has only rockets). I mean WT is not the most balanced game, but that would destroy the balancing completely. Maybe spawnpoints should be increased for Aircraft or you spend some of your spawn points per minute while being in an aircraft, so you have to be useful for the team. That would lead to more aggressive CAS with high risk, could be cool too

[@bren2385]

​@@triko03 THINK FOR ANY DESCENT PILOT ITS EASY JUST PICKING OFF TARGETS LIKE SITTING DUCKS .. AND AS SOMEONE WHO SELECTED GROUND BATTLES TO PLAY TANKS YOU FEEL LIKE A SITTING DUCK .. I AM A SITTING DUCK 🤯🤯🤯

[@bren2385]

​@@triko03 LESS PLANES IN GROUND BATTLES AS PLANES ARE ALREADY IN AIR BATTLES AND NAVAL.. IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE LIKE HAVING AIR CAPTURE POINTS BUT ALLOWING PLAYERS TO SIT UNDERNEATH WITH AA 🤣🤣🤣

[@radustefan8945]

Where is the TIS MA??? How can't that one make it on the list

[@Thezapperrr]

Cold

[@denikec]

See GROUND realistic battles Look inside Planes

[@kVidStream]

for ARB, bombers are sitting ducks to fighters (A2D-1 for example); poor co-op of players who are also llooking for action.

[@matthewjrw268]

being in a 6v1 at 5.0 because 4 of my teammates were bombers and the other teammate dies on runway

[@brian.2417]

Will the transfer PlayStation Account to Pc feature be possible anytime soon? i would like to use the market.

[@Vincy1Gamerl]

could you do a version with jets too thx

[@branojuraj9063]

Best bomber in RB is Bf109 with 4x50kg bombs. If you know how to aim....

[@BuilderInStyle]

Would something like the hellcat be better than the sb2c since it can carry more bombs and rockets but missed put on the 20mm cannons. I am just wondering what to research. (Looking for a American strike aircraft for a 3.0 to 4.0 lineup)

[@przeterminator3453]

Yeah 20mm can disable tanks but are not relible enough, and flight performance makes up for it heavily against planes

[@BuilderInStyle]

@@przeterminator3453would the p63 maybe be even better? For reference I am loving the p51 and just got the 1000pounders on the f6f 5and it’s a pain honestly.

[@jovanni_orb5116]

Good morning

[@simplsquam]

Make ground battles without planes or make cas spawn costs higher

[@el_Contra]

no

[@simplsquam]

@@el_Contra ok

[@grimalkin6676]

They won't cause it will hurt their precious money they make off of premium cas vehicles. With how quickly planes get into the air in ground battles, I rarely even call it ground battles anymore. I just refer to it as air battles with the ability to spawn in ground vehicles whenever I talk to my friends about it. Cause that is all it is at this point.

[@el_Contra]

@@grimalkin6676 I would have to disagree when you say that the best cas vehicles are premium... the most lethal and effective cas are in the regular tech trees, such as the arado for Germany, the French corsair etc... Also, planes quickly get into the air so long as certain conditions are met... if there are many planes out there, you can always get some AAs which have the cheapest spawn points, and do some sky clean up (AA's are extremely effective against planes)

[@simplsquam]

@@el_Contra aa limits ground capability so much and is hardly rewarding, as much as i love playing them its not fun or effective for getting any rp. cas is so much more powerful and rewarding that it makes the low spawn cost negligible but whatever feeds the snail more money i suppose

[@Oriol_Oriol_Oriol]

Please gaijin buff the bombers so they can be competitive in high tiers

[@vengeance1614]

FPV drones when? Aim120s next update or a new plane like the worthless f15a while Russia gets another flanker? t90m Russian bias? No DU armor for Abrams because its not production model? Is the t90ms era upgrade a production model? just curious.

[@retteip8276]

No P-108?

[@Logan_2137]

guys how i can do my account save when i log on my steam account? i want to buy or do smt but i cant i have too low save and i dont want to lose my progres what i can do?

[@fuso8639]

lets completely forget about the B7A

[@igrom6996]

👌

[@flying_bandit7609]

This is a mesage to new players from a French main, dont play France *GROUND* for these reasons (I will mention a few thing not related to French ground vehicles). . . - It isnt beginner friendly at all with rank 1 being a nightmare and requires alot of skill since you wont have access to APHE rounds only solid shots after rank III (unless you play the Char 25T) - No stabalized vehicles until you reach rank 6, 7, and 8. - Gaijin ignores this nation alot and will only look at it to nerf it or to show pretend love for the nation like they did when they added the long overdue French navy and the Mirage 2000C S-4 (lets be honest, they could have chosen a different vehicle to add if they wanted too) - Most of Frances good or desperetly needed vehicles like the EBR's, AMX-50/TOA90, AMX-30 Super and VBCI-2 are premium or event vehicles - This nation has been out longer then any of the other new minor nations like Sweden, Finland, and Isreal and yet those other minor nations get way more attention then France In the case for top tier its great but, Leclerc and Leclerc S2 are the only 11.7 tanks still not at rank 8 leaving them not eligable to obtain stock APFSDS which you REALY need, their current best APFSDS is the OFL 120 F1 which it didnt actualy use but is the best they will give you since they wont add the OFL 120 F2. All the Leclercs use the protoype armor, so its armor isnt up to date but thats not Gaiins fault since France wont put out even the limiter values to their Leclercs armour thickness. Now this is me rambling but also throwing out a bit of facts, but all in all, if gaijin wants to do something, they are better off removing France as a playable nation for new players if they hate the nation that badley or making it unlockable after they reach a certain level or played enough of ground RB to move on to France. If players want to start a new nation go with Sweden, avoid America and USSR since they get spoiled alot and USSR is russian bias and has some players equivalent to a few German mains, as for Germany, a few may be a bit 'zoned out' during the match or relying on their armour to much (they should just play USSR if they want armour). Britian, Japan, and Italy are almost in the same boat with France but also have their own set of problems. China is almost the same as USSR but are far better players but their are very few of them and you will only find them in the Air Realistic.

[@D.Kanavoutsos]

An Idea to ad bombers that are non operational like pistons or jet engines Convair b 36 Vulcan tu 16 etc really you stopped in 40s

[@tobiassoffa9257]

Die Saab 18 hat nichts mit der Junkers 86 (B3) zu tun.😊

[@RonPaulBot1234]

Why did you nerf the Ju 88 it had 28x 50kg bombs + 2 500kg .. now you cant have the same loadout

[@mikkojk83]

Ju-88A's switched to custom loadout system previously used by jets, you just need to recreate the old loadout using that.

[@Roverswelsh]

Nothing about the Mosquito or the A20

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

Do you plan on ever having actual ground battles instead of this honestly horrible mix?

[@Finnish_Fishing_Channel]

YEP

[@AlexanderdieBadeenteimAll]

The Bf109E😢

[@OK-up7yb]

CW project alfa Wargaming released bombers too but it looks much much better than this😢

[@cloudy_tyson0888]

I still use b18

[@Black_Devil_Game]

Ich vermisse die JU-188 a2

[@PaxBritannica34563]

Gaijin give us V bombers and B-52 pleaseeeeee.

[@Minimeister317]

Even when completely skilled, the crew on the defensive guns are completely and utterly useless .

[@rickpilhorn]

I don't care which one you like, you do you. But stop dropping near your teammates.

[@combiolus3907]

wheres the B-29

[@kpopbob8461]

Excuse me but the pe8 turns on a dime

[@christopherchartier3017]

The P-47 not making this list is criminal

[@tplays6688]

Its not a Bomber

[@death_is_here]

Make the sturmtiger available again(day 111)

[@christian_muller_0489]

Die besten Bomber sind die Arados! Warum habt ihr diese vergessen?

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

No.

[@anthonyb5247]

Ghost ac130

[@justinespinoza]

Pe, 8 best and can we have big bumps like Russia like pe 8