Attacking Bombers #2 - Overhead & Head On Approaches

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This lesson teaches you how to attack bombers using an approach from overhead or from a head on position.
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[@TheRaptorXX]

Ahhhhh... the world is resumed.... a Thursday morning sound of the chalkboard and more stuff to practice!! Cheers Req, a 'must-have' for pretty much most pilots contained herein mate...

[@MrCarvion]

Outstanding guide. Thank you so much!

[@zdenekprecechtel6741]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@jefferynelson]

Thanks for the time you put in to make your content ACT !!

[@RequiemsACTL]

No worries! :-)

[@LeLv8_Archi]

That last attack looks familiar

[@RequiemsACTL]

I'm sure everyone has done it at least once LOL

[@dannyboy5775]

Great stuff as usual mate.

[@RequiemsACTL]

Cheers Danny

[@4secsharkmr352]

1a Tutorial👍 thank you

[@celesteorsa3918]

The first is the approach I usually use, although it is not the easiest, nor the most immediate, because you have to be much higher and ahead of the bomber if you don't want to end up on the her tail. If done correctly, however, you get a lot of energy from the dives to make multiple attacks in succession. Not recommended against faster bombers.

[@RequiemsACTL]

Yep it's a good safe way to do it. High speed, short time on target, and plenty of energy to reset your position. Too often you see people lined up astern chasing someone.

[@skidzholeshot1316]

nice

[@DBSTH0R]

Swell! Make our life even harder... Excellent video btw. :)

[@RequiemsACTL]

Well down the road I want to make one on how to be a gunner...to make the attacker's life harder too ;-)

[@jorgestanbury9399]

Great video! thanks; only question is how you deal with maneuvering bombers; in my experience, as soon as you get close, the bombers will start to do all kind of maneuvering, specially 1 engine bombers, which would also get close to the ground

[@RequiemsACTL]

If they start maneuvering you can expect to just take a snapshot, likely by making a high pass at an angle. You have the big advantage as the fighter, so avoid squandering it by sitting on their tail opening yourself up to get shot at.

[@flythething193]

Very nice! I guess you already found Fighter Tactics Against The B-29 (1948) from Airboyd. It´s not exactly the same, but very interesting as well. I think this type of instruction has a great value for combat simulations air to air, since you can get to fly realistic missions even with a limited time budget.

[@RequiemsACTL]

I googled it and I hadn't seen that one actually, very cool!

[@old_guard2431]

Watched a video with Yak-1b’s attacking a group of Ju-88s. The bombers were on the deck for whatever reason (human pilots), and the fighters were attacking high from the rear. The result was a surprising number of bomber pilot kills on the first pass. My conclusion is that Ju-88 pilots are much more vulnerable from the high rear than He-111 pilots, particularly from rifle-caliber MGs. So this might be a factor in choosing your attack. Initially I was thinking disposition of defensive armament might be an issue between various types of bombers, but your tactics take that into consideration. Tail gunners on many American bombers, and British heavies if they get into the game, might be a factor. The Ju-88s in the video were in line astern, not the most astute choice for mutual support, and were predictably massacred.

[@npatrcevic]

The 20mm forward cannon of the 111 is looking forward to head on approaches.

[@dramm33]

If the person flying it is using the bomb sight, there won't be anybody on the gun.

[@meowsqueak]

How do you create those tactical 3D replays? Is that an in-game tool, or something 3rd party using telemetry data? Or just hand-made to match the IL2 flight as closely as possible?

[@RequiemsACTL]

Its a program called Tacview. It uses Il-2 telemetry to recreate the situation in the program

[@tomm6718]

dude after that last attack how did you not sign off "fly safe and always check your 12" lol

[@RequiemsACTL]

haha I wish I did use that!

[@aspielm759]

Can I download these mission files somwhere or create my own ones somehow?

[@RequiemsACTL]

Normally I provided these missions but patches kept breaking them. I'm not sure if I have this mission still...I'd need to check when I get home tomorrow.

[@aspielm759]

@@RequiemsACTL alright thank you!

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

Is that weird 'pumping' air sound when performing harder turns a G-suit?

[@RequiemsACTL]

The pilot breathes harder. This usually indicates when pulling above 5G

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

@@RequiemsACTL ooooh ok! That's useful to know.

[@5.stg1-dlmalloy43]

Tried this attack of yours today.... and shot the bomb off a Ju-88. Holy shit, this I like!

[@airfigueruelo3644]

he111 dificult? ace? rokie?

[@RequiemsACTL]

The AI level doesn't matter in the video as I needed to set the waypoints for the AI to fly to "High" which affects their shooting. I needed them to fly straight and level instead of acting like a fighter as I came in to demonstrate the attack flightpath.

[@HernanMoragaMmHs]

I think the AI in this game for bombers is broken. Just look at how the A20 AI maneuvers

[@HernanMoragaMmHs]

Oh no! Not ze Germans again!

[@RequiemsACTL]

I know you would have loved it from the perspective of a Fw 190 but that is way too easy. I didn't want to make a "bombers exploding" compilation LOL

[@marduk87]

@@RequiemsACTL Theres never enough of that honestly! :)

[@RequiemsACTL]

Next time we fly a Fw maybe we can find some then