Attempting Daigo's MOST IMPOSSIBLE combo...

Here's the full Daigo vs Momochi USF4 match from Stunfest 2015! • USFIV: EG Momochi vs M...
Today we're taking on another Daigo challenge - can we recreate the Daigo evil ryu combo from Ultra Street Fighter IV, featuring 5 one-frame links??? Let's see how good my 1 frame game is in SF4!!
If you wanna see me attempt Evo Moment 37: • How Hard is the Daigo ...
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[@mansmo9513]

Many other players had similar or even better execution than Daigo, like Sako for-example . but Daigo displays his skill in the tensest of moments. what a showman.

[@CamXXL]

I wonder if JM can do Sakos Bulleta infinite in Vsav2

[@tedjomuljono3052]

People pulls these things in a lab, Daigo does this in EVO & CPT If JM and the other guys wanted to recreate this, try against an actual opponent that fights back, preferably momochi himself

[@MrCactuar13]

@@tedjomuljono3052 and then there's the guys that just call out people in the comments sections

[@GinkgoPete]

@@tedjomuljono3052 JM actually has momochi on speed dial and he 10-0d him seconds after this was recorded he then said tedjo muljono is a scrub and went on to body Xian infiltration and John choi (in SF2) just for good measure.

[@MrCactuar13]

@@GinkgoPete dude i was there hypest moment even better than evo37

[@Giraffinator]

gotta do it optimally for that 3 points of damage

[@parafaust6201]

It's about sending a message

[@giraffehater2674]

That's an interesting name you got there...

[@trax72]

Now you got the rest of your life to do the Sako combo. 😆

[@TV-Girl-Enjoyer]

I think you gave the best explanation of plinking I've heard honestly. Really appreciated that

[@tonyelectionfraud669]

You must not have been lookin hard then brother! Jmcroft with the knowledge tho

[@TV-Girl-Enjoyer]

@@tonyelectionfraud669 I mostly play Tekken so yeah learning what a plink is isn't exactly a priority. But I've had ppl explain it to me before and didn't quite get it. Like I got part of what they were saying but couldn't put it all the way together.

[@nivyan]

@@TV-Girl-Enjoyer It's the same mechanic as input buffering, I think it's called, in Tekkken. Ie. you can hold one button down, and press another and the game will register it as the first, then both. The difference is that Tekken' timing is infinite, and games that allow plinking is very short. It's to allow ex-moves and other multiple-button moves to reliably come out without being able to input buffer - plinking is a side-effect of that.

[@TV-Girl-Enjoyer]

@@nivyan yeah button buffering is similar to plinking in the sense of how it's performed but I don't know a whole lot about 2D games. I'm a casual enjoyer. So JMC's explanation was really helpful in explaining what it is (which I knew coming in) and what it does (something that I didn't understand before)

[@RTU130]

Ye

[@j4ff4c3ks1]

While everyone is of course impressed by Daigo's execution, I think one should also appreciate the sheer amount of hard-ass practice one must have just to remember a combo this long and intricate to be able to recall and whip it out at a hitconfirm's notice

[@Bodied]

Remembering it isn't that hard tbh. At the point you've practiced it so much that you can do it without dropping it, your hands do all the remembering. You don't have to worry about forgetting the combo at that point

[@jackjackson3942]

@@Bodied Yeah that's what he said lol

[@Kalulosu]

Here it's out of a stun so not really a hit confirm notice ;) I think players of Daigo's caliber (aka toppest of world class) definitely pratice stun setups (mid stage vs corner for example), because when you gotta optimize you gotta optimize.

[@Yoloslides]

It's mostly a loop, there aint much to remember.

[@Ock_mantis]

These comments lmao. Anyway i agree with you.

[@fernandofelix892]

You should do when Snake Eyez ran through the whole Team Norcal. It was one of the hype moments in fighting game history.

[@floccinaucinihilipilificat3684]

Peasants, Diago did NOT use this method! 😎

[@kumaSOevl]

“Epic moments in FGC history”

[@elcheshireilustracion9396]

Already recommended this one in another FGC history video. I really hope he does. Still one of the hypest things I´ve seen. That alone cemented Snake Eyez as one of my fav FGC people.

[@johnolmos8670]

Snake Eyez Zangief combos were like something out of MvC

[@pistolshr1mp]

Here after watching brian_F doing this in 47 seconds. Respect for pledging and paying up the 15 subs.

[@mrefish289]

You gotta respect JM for watching it back and fixing the light punch error. It takes a big man to go back in.

[@Kaitos11]

Yeah! I would've been like "Close enough, I'm done."

[@wanderingslacker]

‘Daigo Umehare-ga, Umehare-ga!’ ‘Shoryuken! Shoryuken! Wut you sayin?’ Fucking love the commentary on that clip. Great job JM. Now I want to try and do this.

[@AnhDonoi]

The commentary shoots that match into the hall of fame

[@Stinger420]

Hey, how ya doin'? Your comment reminded me of the 'What Happun?' SF: The Movie The Game video. Hehe....Your quoting the announcers reminded me of this part talking about how bad the voice-over audio is. How the actors were incapable of saying the names of the moves correctly. At one point he says, "They couldn't learn these sounds that most gamers could say in their sleep!" LoL Not that hard... Ha-Doo-Ken!....etc... It was so funny! Matt McMuscles, he says to the effect of, "They had an arcade machine on set, they would perform the move over and over so they could hear it. They had even written notes, spelling it out, phonetically...." There's like one more line, but the next scene is Ken doing a Dragon Punch, and all you hear is "Dragon! Dragon!" and even that it sounds like the very end of the word is cut off a bit... Ha! Ahhh, too good, too good.... :-D

[@sl11tenderhand]

F-Word & Logan Sama are an under-appreciated commentary duo.

[@triniomari]

Hahahaha great commentary

[@100purenacl3]

​@@sl11tenderhandyeah they're great

[@Krubbe]

Man this took me back. That moment is ICONIC

[@UnlimitedSwordMagic]

That match was crazy. Momochi and Daigo were on fire that day lol The perfect Momochi landed and the Ultra 2 reaction at Daigo's fireball really impressed me at the time as well lol They were beasts at SF4, Jesus Christ

[@rem714]

Love your work as a chronicler of fighting game history - Please do more!

[@PatriciaCross]

This is actually a great lesson in how to.learn certain combos by breaking them up into segments. It might be a great idea to do some more videos where you learn combos like these; but edited and presented in a way that also teaches viewers how to lab combos and techniques.

[@HeirofDacia]

That's how musicians learn songs on different instruments: They break said songs down into segments, then practice the parts they're bad at independently.

[@PatriciaCross]

@@HeirofDacia I know. But this may not be obvious to everyone. I imagine a lot of people are trying to grind through comboes without breaking them down

[@risemixFGC]

Heads up, if you do a light fireball for the first cancel it moves more slowly which gives you more time to link the cr.MP. Daigo used a light fireball I think

[@CHEESENSPIEL]

best part of that moment for me is Fword and Logan's commentary 'shoryuken! shoryuken! wot u sayin?'

[@ToranosukeEdo]

Inspirational. SFIV combos require such high level execution- crazy to think about doing multiple 1-frame links like that in tournament even with plinking

[@callmetravesty8762]

While plinking makes it easier, 1/60th of a second x 2 is still only 2/60ths of a second. Absolutely nuts.

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

Anybody else here after Brian_F's video? Where you at JM?!!😂🤣

[@phil4863]

You have to practice for hours to execute that so accurately. I had a hard time doing these combos in PS4 controller.

[@hussamkj403]

I never could that in any controller

[@leoalcaraz6153]

We appreciate all the archived stuff you’re like a fighting game historian

[@tyrenace6597]

Brian F said you gota do the Sako combos now.

[@JohnSmith-hf8zn]

My brain would have shut down 10 minutes in

[@xcarter1893]

That sako loop is gona be a bitch good luck with that challenge

[@dongonzulman6478]

You should do the Justin Wong Sakura combo

[@Fleetw00d]

I remember this match making me feel like this was the pinnacle of SF4.

[@retrostart8681]

Hope they made an Evo featuring all those legendary fighting games 🤧 That would be awesome

[@arik2216]

Lowtiergod vs Vincent was the the pinnacle of street fighter

[@RisingJericho]

I was going to comment "Lol this is gonna be like 2 hours" but holy shit it actually did take that long

[@b1xte150]

amazing upload timing i had just ran out of good things to watch

[@braveplays1290]

o god, you challenged the wrong people washed by Pandas and BrianF. Good shit man

[@novanatakit323]

I remember doing this exactly once in training mode. It took me 5 hours....in training mode....and it never happened again

[@MrYoumitube]

This is Daigo man!!! Daigo is the king of doing the extremelyyyyyyy difficult on the biggest stages. Daigo is like the MJ23 of Streetfighter. He is the GOAT. He can get washed and Washed and then pull out a set nobody and I mean nobody can do...

[@christianjj1988]

I came here from Brian f page

[@VAFranky]

One of my other favorite Daigo moments. Was fortunate to catch the match when it aired live and the commentators just took it to the next level.

[@Ilovevidgames123]

There are also two other things you have to appreciate about this combo. One, not only was Daigo able to do this absurdly difficult combo, and do it in a very tense tournament moment, but he had the wisdom in decision-making to go for it. In terms of the return you get for the resources spent, the second FADC is a bad idea in general. The reason it made sense to do was that they were in the third round of the fight, so as long as the combo lead to a guaranteed closing-out of the round, it was worth doing. In order to know that it was worth doing, Daigo had to be able to look at Momochi's remaining health and calculate, or at least accurately estimate, in his mind, that even with the combo scaling from before the dizzy, that it would do enough damage to either KO Ken outright, or leave him in guaranteed chip-out range, and he did so correctly. On top of that, the combo is exceedingly situational in terms of when you'll even have the option to do it. Very rarely do you get a dizzy or some other way of starting a combo with a jumping normal of your choice with 4 stocks of meter in the game, and usually it's preferable to FADC into Ultra anyway. So putting this all together, Daigo had to be intuitively familiar enough with the damage of a highly situational combo to recognize that even with scaling, it would do the damage he would need it to do to guarantee the third round. Then, he had to have good enough execution with the character to hit this highly-situational and extremely-executionally-demanding combo without any fear of failure, in a tense tournament moment, against one of the best SF4 and general fighting game players of all time. There's a reason he's one of the 5 Gods of 2D, and all the other top Japanese players always give him his flowers when they're asked about great Street Fighter players.

[@No0neat]

Momochi: *Gets a perfect* Daigo: So you chose.. 1-frame links.

[@trmu6729]

Funny enough, this was my "first" moment that introduced Daigo, FGC and commentators like WSO Logan.

[@OtakuStormZ]

My dream is to hit this on my uncle because he taught me how to play when i was younger. i’m 16 now and i’m determined to stun him with this combo 😂

[@Baatosanabe]

Definitely I love learning about all these epic moments in FCG history as a person who has been a casual on and off since SF4

[@deep_amok]

The funny part is that Daigo probably did that just to send a message: "You think that perfect meant something? No."

[@Claytron4000]

Love the FGC history

[@matth5952]

I want to see the Panda Crew try this lol. They've been running through the training combos, time to give them an actual hard ass challenge. JWong and Punk can't possibly call this one free lol

[@poepertist]

it's crazy that momochi needs an introduction at all lmao

[@UnlimitedSwordMagic]

Are u going to try the Sako loops? I recommend Splink lol

[@Seblis]

As for "are people interested in such videos": normally I wouldn't be, because I am not very familiar with SF gameplay. The analysis at the beginning allowed me to understand and enjoy the video.

[@d3v1lsummoner]

0:07 Don't let Justin Wong hear that.

[@zacharypilot8256]

The sheer professionalism to see you did light jab instead of medium and DOING IT AGAIN. This is why I love your content, man: the dedication!

[@MogoPrime]

Bust this one out at your next JM Cup and you'll instantly win the whole bracket. 😎

[@Bodied]

You could try to recreate one of pepeday doing his run stop fierce combos with fuerte. Pretty sure he's done like 10 reps before. Or recreate ANYTHING latif has done with viper lol Or if you really want a hard combo to do, I have a viper combo I'd be willing to bet you'll never land no matter how much time you spend. Let me know if you're interested

[@KAMAKAZE_ZC]

I remember Sako saying that he always goes for the most optimal combos because if you don't practice them in matches how are you ever going to do them in tournament.

[@Kdawg4859]

It's not about the damage. Its sending a message.

[@darkjoey3767]

That 25 hit combo is possible in SFIV CHAMPION EDITION mobile. I did it

[@r1konTheAutomator]

12:44 - I...ok...I've been around fighting games my entire life. I'm not anywhere as good as I should be for being in love with them for like 25 years lol. But I know my way around for sure. Everybody has used or heard the term "mash DP", I for some reason never thought it was an ACTUAL mash! I thought people always used the term as like..I'm gonna DP all day, or DP the first chance I get. I've been strictly timing my DPs my whole life, and you're sitting here telling me that this ACTUAL mash works?! Well then...I'll see myself out.

[@jmcrofts]

it's because SF4 has a very wide input buffer for special moves. In SF2 or 3 you would have to manually time the DP input

[@r1konTheAutomator]

@@jmcrofts Hey the man himself! Big ups JM, I appreciate everything you do. Thanks for the reply

[@Eclecticompany]

learning combos like this reminds me of learning guitar riffs; especially dividing 14 hit combos, or 14 note riffs (for example) into a few sections, and then linking them together.

[@noahboone524]

When I tried to learn plinking, it was really easy for me to get the timing of it down, especially when you learn the tricks. When I tried to actually USE plinking in combos, I realized the extra frame didn’t help my awful timing. 1/60 vs 2/60 doesn’t matter if I’m still like 5 frames off every time 😂

[@KuroiHoshiV]

"Newer fighting game players might not know of" I always considered myself a "newer fighting game fan" due to how late I was introduced to them, but I watched this moment live... am I that old?

[@NYCHeavyHitz212]

Does plinking turn ALL 1-framers to 2?

[@pavelowpower]

I’ve just gotten into fighting games again after like 20 years, and I can’t even do Ryu’s challenges on USF4 lol.

[@KeijiMaeda86]

I heard Daigo did not plink. In fact he was doing the combo with one finger.

[@chekerz123456789]

I find that hard to believe

[@MrLinkolin]

Just a week or two ago I was wondering when we might get another of these Fighting Game history videos from you, love these so much, please make more!!

[@dionreed5388]

J makes the best FGC content👍

[@MZMS1510]

How do you do the focus attack input? Do you use a macro on thumb, just use your 2 fingers or something else?

[@mvsniper]

Good stuff JM. Even on terrible days I can watch your content and still smile. Please keep it up!

[@MNiluvLNg]

🐐

[@patricksierra1]

Sako smirking right now

[@matthiasdeo]

You didn't even get the combo, you did cr.lp into tatsu at the end there which is a two frame link...

[@SergeySvotin]

Actually 2 hours is too much for this combo, it's not like you have to practice it until you can pull it anytime, you just have to do it once, and for one try it took quite a long time

[@arik2216]

Now try to copy LOWTierGod vs Vincent's moment.

[@Bodied]

The hard one is the Rufus specific one he did. The one he did to Ken was just the first time we saw him do the loops. Don't let Brian F scare you lol. Shits not bad

[@AnthonyBottari]

Pretty sure Sako did the one to Rufus.

[@eliudzamora3578]

I watched this moment live and it blew my mind! Please keep making videos like these, its amazing to see how much skills this kind of stuff takes to pull off.

[@xRhychux]

Watched this live, so hype

[@BlackGeine]

How should you Plink one frame negative edge?

[@Brynhildrify]

nowadays games are just made for idiots, any baby can do a "daigo combo"

[@justingoers]

Nice work! Hell yeah. Love this kind of content.

[@INikeAir]

I don’t think you know how much of a joy it is to watch you and your videos

[@HoDoBoDo]

Recreate Super Akouma's FADC combo against CBM at Tekken World Tour. Good luck with that XD.

[@valentijn9]

So the 7 additional combo hits were pre stun? And they count as one combo?

[@chillpill1649]

Love these types of videos!!

[@AndresLionheart]

I feel like people who can do stuff like that under pressure have the special ability to keep their state of mind and forget about what's around them. Sort of a zen state. I'm quite the opposite to that. I don't play games competitively but I can compare it to how nervous I get in rhythm games when I'm close to the end of a song with a perfect combo. Since I know I can't miss an input my fingers start to shake D=. I bet I would get destroyed under pressure in a competitive tournament.

[@Slushy916]

Man love these vids from you. You break these vids down so well! Thank you!!

[@ddublu]

this diego umehalal guy really is something, hu?

[@TrIpMo1981]

Now have fun with your Sako combo.

[@SuperKinahead]

When he landed it, i jumped up and cheered. Hahaha

[@jonathanhars7067]

👀

[@popcet224]

👀

[@jonathanhars7067]

@@popcet224 👁👄👁

[@GFClocked]

Maaan, I miss sf4 :( I want them to release sf4ae2012:ggpo edition :'(

[@SergeySvotin]

12:47 and once again you did cr.lp instead of mp

[@danielhaywood8029]

are links like thee possible in sf6? I dont mean regular link combos, I mean like these

[@danielhaywood8029]

without drive rush

[@e.correa6704]

This combos are not that hard at all, after you get used to the game mechanics, they ain't so difficult....want to talk about really "impossible" combos.....try Valmaster longest Chun li combos, that's another lever

[@Eudamonic]

revenge for getting perfected, perhaps

[@davidbielsa5188]

I find the parry moment much, but much easier than this combo. I could do the daigo parry consistently back in the day, but i just cant do any 1f links in sf4, plinking or not plinking. This daigo combo is like black magic for me

[@zex69]

Not the most difficult of the bunch but you can try Arslan Ash's EVO winning combo against knee for Tekken 7 .. its a rage drive combo so its tricky Happens at the end round 3 of match 1 in finals .. crazy stuff

[@whittwhitsell358]

I love these videos! You should try the Tekken 7 Super Akuma's Akuma comeback from Mixup 2019. I don't even know if it's possible any more tbh... I don't really play Tekken but I know they nerfed akuma a few times lol

[@The_Humble_Hurricane]

Nice work my guy. I haven't played any street fighter in 7 years haha but I'll definitely be giving this a shot once I'm settled into my apartment with this game at the ready.

[@By_the_gods]

JM I paused the video when you asked if I wanted to see older content like SF4, and I'm not gonna lie, bro that hurt. But Yes! We want to see more SF4 content! Sf4 is like the attitude age of WWE

[@NYCHeavyHitz212]

“Normal human” implies Daigo isn’t human which is accurate.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Analyze Nauman vs Mago in Evo Japan's SFV finals where a young unknown player won using Sakura against top tier Karin.

[@marekcalcote1]

Back in the day when I was in Japan about 10 years ago, everyone who’s playing street fighter was using this technique. All the people in the arcade have taught me what it does but I still could not grasp what it does fully but I did it anyway since I was playing street fighter. Regardless it was still extremely difficult to connect combos and to make that to a consistent and stable level? It’s just out of this world. That’s why these top level fighters still amazes me even to this day.

[@jeftielmorales8945]

Dude your great!! 😁😁😁 love your videos indeed . Keep at it . I'm pretty sure you've played bloody roar . It would be a cool add to your collection of fighting games

[@huarachi123]

That would take me months..

[@paulmestrejr5904]

This combo is also accomplished on the mobile version of SSFIV. Search it on KZbin💯

[@AtomBombsAndGrenades]

My brother PLEASE try and learn MarlinPie’s swag Dr. Doom combo

[@mielthesquid6536]

This is Ken Bogard lol!

[@lazsantos9189]

With heavy buttons you can triple plink (HP + (HP+MP) + (HP+MP+LP))

[@tkZombie_]

jmcroft: if you like these kind of.. me: oh fuck yeah, this shit is my favourite kind of fg video. great moments in fg history is awesome imo keep up the good work, mate!