No Crucible? No Ingot Mold? But Got A Rolling Mill? - No Problem - Recycling Your Silver and Gold

[@petrichor7121]

What I love most about these tutorials is the sheer imperfection of the presentation.. thank you so much Andrew for making this so human but incredibly informative! I've learned so much while becoming more forgiving of myself for not always getting everything just right all the time.

[@eivindkofod1774]

Hi Andrew all my low budget amateur frends who, as I, have a Chinese mill. This mill is not nano exact so long strips will be curved during milling. Andrew has a good quality Durston mill, so he can say always roll it the same way each time. But if you have a mill, that bends your strip, roll it once, then turn it upside down (but still same front) and roll it again . That will straighten your strip.

[@Laotzsa]

Thanks mate

[@TheYellowRose63]

What would you say is a good starter mill? Thanks!

[@yunlin832]

HAHAHA brilliant bloopers! But seriously, that tip about using the flat end of tweezers to flatten your blob of metal is excellent! Thanks so much for using your lock down time to teach us!

[@maybingham]

I got all my fine silver scraps yesterday and was very successful in making myself a sheet (small but gorgeous) of fine silver. Thanks so very much for the tutorial, Mr Berry!! 😁

[@Poecilia1963]

I have a tip I can add. I have been using my rolling mill this way since I started, three years ago, as I don't have enough room to set up with a larger torch system. A while back I wanted to make small flat components to use as beads, and it's really awkward to put small balls through the mill, so now when the ball is molten I add a couple of inches of (usually) 16g sterling wire to it, so that I have a kind of handle to hold onto while rolling it. Makes it so much easier! When I'm finished I just snip off the wire. Also, instead of tweezers I use the flat end of a chasing hammer, since I often melt quite large balls. I totally agree about the importance of the mill, it was the first thing beyond pliers that I bought, and I use it nearly every day. Thank you for the excellent videos. I've learned everything I know either playing around at my bench or at the University of KZbin. 😊

[@nikegwada]

Hello Andrew, as I know striking the ingot with hammers or presses, internal defects such as air bubbles and impurities can be eliminated, and the crystalline structure of the metal can be improved.

[@jackiemoore9984]

Great tip with the tweezers. I was taught to hammer it to get it thin enough to go through the rolling mill.

[@carolynwillett3055]

Todays date is Aug. 17, 2023. Andrew, I've seen so many of your videos & they are all great. I've learned all my best jewelry making skills from you. I know the Lord led me to you. Thank you & keep up the good work. You truly are blessing to us. Cj FL, USA😊

[@piranhakat974]

Hi, Andrew. If you have time over the next few weeks could you please make some videos on how to craft and connect a brooch pin, how to create a hinged locket and how to make a cabochon mounted box clasp. PLEASE! 🤗 Thanks for creating this video. As always I enjoyed the lesson. I might not have a crucible, an ingot mold or a rolling mill. But I do have a torch and a hammer. So it looks like I'll be recycling my silver scraps Toolbox Initiative style.

[@miekemanders6598]

Thank you very much again for your instructif vidéo. I learn so much every time. When I hear you say.. "I try not to talk too much on these short vidéos", "he says".. Make me smile. It's a pleasure listening to you!! 😊🍀

[@geraldwise5378]

Thanks Andrew! Always enjoy watching, no matter how long they are!

[@Darksunbird]

XD i have never been more entertained than watching THIS video. the blooper reel was worthy of it's own video. thank you for sharing!

[@PatronofDeath]

great video! I would love to see a video on soldering multiple times the same piece, for example a ring with a stone set in 4 prongs. how to chose the order in which you solder the different pieces, how to prevent solder joints to open up when soldering next to it, when to consider lower graded solder, etc.

[@jgrizzle4166]

Somethings I do are use tweezers to draw the heat away from areas I've already soldered. You can also have the ring in the 3rd hand and have the previously soldered area in some water, I don't like doing it that way personally. Something else to consider is wrapping the area in a wet paper towel. I also use the paper towel method when there are stones that can't take heat but will be a major pain to take out.

[@maybingham]

Commenting on the previous reply, thank you for the wet paper towel tip. However, Just the thought of paper near a flame, disturbs me. Kindly advise.

[@Ken_Dalton]

Solder only runs once properly, so u can solder same areas no problem. Just don't over heat, just let solder flow an take heat away and will find your other hard solder joints will stay the same! Was thought that a while ago..!when youtr knew at it u think solder is gonna flow out if your first joints, but it's all about control and knowing your materials.. Best of luck 🍀

[@pbjsilverstudio4882]

ken dalton This is often true for professionals with years of soldering experience and a fine enough torch tip to isolate the flame and heated area. But most beginners do not have the professional skill to solder like that. I teach my students how to use all the three primary solder grades so they have successful soldering and fabrication experiences. Later I teach my more advanced students how to solder with hard solder only. But many, many jewelry fabricators still use multiple solders depending on the piece being made.

[@pbjsilverstudio4882]

ken dalton Example: large sterling cuff bracelet; my design requires three posts fairly close together to set three half drilled pearls. Hard, medium and easy solder make this task much easier.

[@annag929]

You are a great techer Andrew.Thank you for sharing all the knowlage. I am making my silver from scraps for a while and I am still learning ...

[@lauraashby9369]

I definitely put the cart in front of the donkey.... I was partially through a metalsmithing class before the class was shut down because of the virus. But ar 62, I’m determined this is what It want to do, even if only for making jewelry for myself, This morning I bought a Durston Agile C140 Combo 60 Flat/40 Wire Rolling Mill. I figured with all this time on my hands, why not play and learn at the same time? I came here tonight to search for beginning projects for rolling mills and found your awesome video. THANK YOU! This will be so helpful! PS! I’m thrilled you like the Duraton Agiles. What sold me was the 5th wheel that made the rolling go easier, smoother, over having four wheels. I know I will love it when it comes next week! LOVE your videos and your British accent!

[@sophienewbound8476]

so glad i watched this before placing my next materials order - no silver sheet required this time! Thanks Andrew

[@aprilerzetich4499]

oh i love this video! so honest and full of all i needed to know! my dad just gifted me a Durston C150RE !!!!!! LIke wow that's what a perfect video to help me roll out scrap. Thank you

[@OddScience]

Really enjoying these tutorials. I'm using a hammer and anvil to turn my scrap back into bar & sheet. Takes a little while but it's cheap if you don't have access to a rolling mill

[@kimberlyolson4705]

I purchased a Durston rolling mill a year ago and am embarrassed to say that I have yet to even take it out of the box it came in. I think I just don't feel that I am ready to start working with metals in that fashion yet (no confidence in my work lol). Thank you for sharing your knowledge.....and the bloopers.....love love love the bloopers!

[@someoneyoudontknow7407]

I just ordered one. And well I can say from experience that waiting till your ready may never happen. Gotta start somewhere. I wish you luck!

[@gerryannbrown9645]

I don't have a rolling mill so I am just saving all my scraps for now. I loved seeing how that was done. Thanks Andrew I really enjoyed the video.

[@marylusky2224]

Thank you so much! Can you do a video on hinged jewelry. Like a hinged bracelet please? Your films are informative and awesome

[@barbaracarter6726]

Andrew, your videos are worth their weight in gold! Thank you for sharing.

[@nina_smithy]

Love Andrew Berry, I learn so much from him. But tonight I was in a bit of a rush so I watched the video at x1.5 speed. It was an absolute joy- especially when he was talking about the crack. I advise everyone to try one AB video at 1.5 speed

[@EnniRock]

Wow I had no idea this was possible. So helpful!

[@magicfalcon1]

Great tutorials I have been watching as many as possible as at 60 years young this will make a fantastic hobby,could you do vid on in laying grooves in a silver design with gold if possible. Thanks paul john

[@melindawilliams1833]

Extremely useful information. Thank you. These are the parts of jewelry making that I love.

[@marciadeoliveira6108]

Please, let us know what torch is that, so powerful!

[@Ragamuffinblue]

Thank you 🙏 great timing at this time for all of us when we are struggling financially. Recycling our own small amounts of silver

[@naomiwendy2234]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! 😊

[@iiniijewelry]

Been watching your videos for a few weeks now. Definitely above the rest in information and details. Bought my first rolling mill a week or so ago. Trying to learn. Made a bracelet so far. But I feel I may be exploring just the beginning. Thanks for all the awesome, free 🙏🏾, information and lessons.

[@101mosioatunya]

Thank you, Andrew. This is very useful. I don't have a rolling mill as it wouldn't be economical for me to buy one but I do have scrap and now I know how to treat it before taking it to my silversmithing class to use the rolling mill there :-)

[@philstevens566]

I don't know if you still do not have a rolling mill - but I have one that I could let go! - I want to up-grade what I have, and even though there is nothing wrong with the one I have, I would like a bigger posher one. If I can help, please P.M. me. Phil

Using a rolling mill IS therapeutic. I've used it specifically to "wind down" with some copper... seeing if I could get it to foil-thickness or see how long of wire I could roll from a quarter ounce of copper, whatever eases my time of creative block. You are totally correct when you say "Get the highest quality rolling mill you can afford... and then some". A quality mill makes all the difference.

[@alisonhouston6746]

Brilliant as always, love the singing 🤣

[@dldenison]

Excellent. I almost bought a crucible yesterday. I really don't need it. This was perfect and perfect timing. We may all be mad if we don't keep busy.

[@jjuckett1039]

Thank you! Perfect timing for "Lockdown USA"!

[@geekkopf]

Love this! I can’t believe I never thought about smashing down the silver blob! Love the bloopers! You’re great!

[@indiatruss5191]

Love your tutorials! So down to earth and achievable with fantastic results! Thank you

[@shakirathebudgie7271]

This is magic. I am going to try this in my back garden (without even soldering /melting station:)

[@soomilner902]

Thanks Andrew! Brilliant!

[@DRMLbyJeffrey]

Thank you Andrew this video is a SUPER TIP

[@talldrinkofwater5259]

3 weeks 😂. In our dreams. I wonder if you did manage to get your shed fixed and fences painted, etc. Thanks for the great advice here Andrew; youre always so helpful and a mine of good advice.

[@ediebaldinger8046]

THANKS, Andrew! I absolutely love your films! Thank you thank you! I just bought a rolling mill, and needless to say, I am a bit cash poor and don't yet have a crucible or ingot mold. I am set to go with this video, now!

[@olegpetelevitch4443]

Gold and silver are different animals when it comes to work with ! I just use the small size graphite block for bars !

[@Bobijoux2]

Andrew you are awesome. I've been on lock-down for 3 weeks. Your tutorials are very refreshing and I learned a lot. Now I know how to use my rolling mill better! Be safe and healthy :) - h. from Washington state

[@MandyWoodArtist]

I really love the bloopers at the end! I mean the whole thing is good but you know nothing beats a laugh.

[@maladylis08]

Lovely video ! I love how you have your blog tools but how about listing your few tools you use in your tutorial ? Loved your larger torch !

[@silvialuthi1827]

Best tutorials - best homepage for everyone wanting to learn how to make jewellery (I find...) - membership has been worth every single penny over the past few years. Thanks for everything, Andrew. Always looking forward to more films, be it over your homepage or here on youtube. Request: if you could do a tutorial on annealing a smaller piece of shaped metal - for ex. a small leaf or some other cut out flat piece or a wire shape onto a RING (or BANGLE - just not a flat area, you've shown that before) so the piece needing to stick to the top actually holds in place while soldering (and obviously after ;-)), that would be grand. Also a little more on the different ways of darkening the metal (liver of sulfur or Paris oxyde etc.) and what results can be expected with what type of oxyde. Thanks a million and hope you and your family remain happy and healthy through these times.

[@luchovera2464]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love from Peru

[@mawi1172]

Poor Andrew! It's hard to keep him busy, I suppose! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I think, for now, I'll just order my wire & sheets from Rio Grande or Fire Mtn Gems. Its just easier for me.

[@Totiugalde]

Best teacher!!!!

[@maureenchandler8214]

Hello Andrew, I recently took out a loan from our savings at $50. a month. lol i wanted a durston but it was a $200. shipping. so I ended up with a 130 Peepe rolling Mill. I have not cleaned up all the grease and re oiled it like the instructions say yet I have ordered a crucible from amazon and I had a friend who was a metalsmith that can't make jewelry any more he so kindly gave me alot of things. a spinner casting unit that I have no clue how to use. I will find it on youtube one day. He had some steel small things and I figured it out its a ingot mold. blimey I said to my husband who's from the UK. Im proud of me self. I put this together. I also got a round disc cutter for xmas from him. so Im a amateur . Im also old at 72 next month.but I have made rings and pendants.now I'm in the process of making my brother a bear claw necklace. Oh I hope it turns out well. I have the claws clean and the silver all cut out. the soldering begins. May I ask where in the UK you're from. My husband is from Hemel Hempstead. Im American from Michigan but have lived in Colorado. Lived in Bedfordshire for five yrs and married him there. I miss it. I enjoy what you teach us. and I will keep watching. my email is [e-mail] if you get too bored and want to talk jewelry. perhaps I could ask you a few questions. do I have to use Map gas for melting silver or will my propane work. someone told me propane isn't hot enough. thank you Mo is my nickname or you can call me MO

[@daltonkellogg804]

What is the brand of torch you use for the bigger one?

[@frantiseklaluch6605]

Hello Andrew, I am just buying rolling mill... Durston are superb but out of my range now, Chinese are cheaper but look kinda not solid, I find some very (VERY) old rolling mill. Thank you this tutorial... looks what I want to do...

[@jeannettesalazar6442]

I enjoy every second of your tutorials very informative thank ❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊

[@monjiahertz2050]

Hello Andrew, I would love for you to make more videos on torch fired enamelling. Ex. I struggle with counterenamelling...

[@Leena79]

I have a cheap rolling mill and I'm definately trying this. I think I'll hammer the disk first just to get them flatter before the rolling mill - just to save the mill. But thank you for an awesome tip!

[@brian2007tube]

Leena you will work harden the silver if you hammer it so will need to anneal it after hammering before using mill. Andrew Berry has videos on annealing. Cheap rolling mills (i have one) dont have the same gears so are harder to use and so the metal needs to be as soft as poss.

[@johnchrysostomou9417]

Partridge 😊 Thanks for the tutorial 👍

[@ricardosander7390]

Thanks for the video!

[@carmenponcedeleon2693]

Fantastic as usual! I’m not alone when I say thank you for your time and dedication in teaching us!

[@palmasmyth6605]

Thanks Andrew. Love your videos, they are very informative and helpful.

[@TheSassyone2]

Legend! Thank you. Such great information! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Just bought the same rolling mill & waiting (impatiently) for it to arrive travel form the UK to Oz. Thanks again, Andrew. A huge help.

[@ma1900bi1900]

Danke für dieses Tutorial und die Tipps

[@dianazaalberg1993]

Nicely done, thank you. Can you pls make a channel setting with square stones in a ring or bracelet? Pls finish your shed as well:happy wife, happy life 😁😂

[@wbaldwinflippingmad]

Love your work.

[@paolosil7954]

Hello, wich is the acid that you use for cleaning the silver? Thanks for videos and channel, very informative!

[@beaddemon2572]

Tips and tricks re: beginner mistakes with soldering, using texture plates, drawing wire, or what tools can or should be modified. If you’re going to go stir crazy, maybe do a live stream and chat with some of your viewers, show off some of the things you have made, show us some of your more expensive tools ( do you use a 3D printer to make casting molds). Or maybe you should go put the roof on that shed! 😁

[@wylenezopfi7827]

Wow was this an informative tutorial! I’m about to buy a rolling mill (a Durston Combination because of your wonderful video!) but do not have a crucible or ingot mold...and you just made the process simple enough that I won’t need them. I have watched so many of your videos and never fail to learn wonderful new things! I love your knowledge and personality and am so glad I subscribe to your channel!

[@danielabrill]

thank you, Andrew, great lesson! could you teach us on wax carving? for example a ring with a cabochon?

[@cynthiajacobsen7781]

I am locked down in America. I love your work and am looking forward to going mad along with you.

[@ЭльбекУмарович]

thank you Mr.Andrew! can you show how to make feligri braslet and Nona chain. thank you again!

[@Johnbro8]

Thanks Andrew 👍👍

[@shorelinearmorllc477]

I've been using my delft clay and making an open ingot.

[@dawnsaavedra1504]

I loved this! I had been wondering how to do this

[@PreciousRubi]

Thanks so much for this tutorial. I just bought myself a gorgeous Durston C30 and I don’t have the means to make ingots, but you have given me the confidence to roll my own silver. Very entertaining too. I can do with a little rolling mill therapy in my life right now. 😆

[@eivindkofod1774]

Great video. I sm of course one of these tool craxy amateurs but since I slsr have been constantly travelling the world for more than fourty years, I enjoy going to tje markets to sut with the goldsmiths learnimg how to do exquisite things wtih the most simple tools on earth... If any. Also watch the Toolbox Initiative. They show West African gold smiths with nothing but a hammer and a forge.

[@Austin1990]

Doing whatever it takes to buy a good rolling mill is very useful advice. So, now, I need to find out what makes a rolling mill good so that I can find one.

[@Atthebench]

Glad to help

[@karie9890]

Thank you Andrew! I'm wondering.... can you please do a video on how to make a spring hinge bracelet? Thanks in advance for your time and talent!

[@Atthebench]

Something as complex as that I would not put on KZbin I’m sorry. Tutorials of that nature would be on our online jewellery training website At The Bench

[@robpetesworkshop]

Thats a neat trick with the tweezers , thanks Andrew!

[@horatiawellsted6120]

You killed the spider?! nooooo 😂

[@tonyandbevjordan7363]

thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. It has helped so much in these difficult times. I spend hours watching your videos.. I now sweat solder with ease. Its the best way to learn as one can watch it many times. Bev (N.Z.)

[@mary-annkieckhaben5026]

Thank you so much i love your Tutorials.

[@markflores9055]

Thank you

[@isaacarnett8804]

Be safe, be true...., Andrew !!

[@KayGasnerKGDESIGNS]

Thank you Mr. Berry;-)

[@lynajohnston9299]

Thank you Andrew, I love your videos and have learned so much. I have just started making jewelry and I am using reclaimed silver and stones, I have a crucible and ingot mold but don't have a mill. Any ideas and to flatten and stretch silver before I spend the money on a mill? Thanks

[@deeoneal1267]

i was just thinking about this last nite ! thanks !!!

[@OldManandtheSuperC]

Metal is a crystal. Annealing restores the crystalline structure. Working the metal stretches the crystal structure causing atoms to break out of the crystal. This is what causes the metal to harden and crack and why annealing is important.

[@Yupti7]

Excellent, I was just doing this yesterday with my charcoal block, but nice with some extra tips, like the tweezers for pressing it down. Years in to doing jewellery, I finally ordered a rolling mill. I mainly do zbrush design, 3d printed, and cast pieces, so haven't felt the need for a mill. At least Durston is not closed and I had my new mill in 2 days. :-)

[@tywhitmire860]

I would love to see the techniques for stone on stone or stone in stone settings for cabochons, etc. :)

[@Iknowonlywhatimtaught]

Than you Andrew. I think we all went a little made being isolated during Covid pandemic

[@rickholder7799]

What would be the consequences of leaving the solder bits in the melt? Thank you for showing how accessible this process can be!

[@giorgiodeste8023]

Spider in the wall mean money ! Don't kill it 😂

[@linkarrelstc]

Totally enjoying these Andrew... would love something on finishing fine detail on pierced pieces and I still struggle with polishing. Your videos so closely mimic what happens to all of us in our studios just helps me see I am on the right road and need to just keep practicing and constructing. THANK YOU!

[@sharonlarochelle1192]

Very helpful. Thank you

[@juliahatch6360]

Thank you. I find my metal goes banana shaped when I keep rolling it, is that normal or should I be annealing it more?

[@clarewillison9379]

Julia Hatch alternatively, drill a hole in one end and sell beautiful banana pendants 😉

[@gwaaiedenshaw8310]

If it always bananas in one direction, one side of your mill might be closer together.

[@wendyshaw6985]

I understand that it happens when one is rolling it too tightly.

[@Iknowonlywhatimtaught]

Even if you must save for a while buy a Durston mill. They are not that expensive when it compares to a Chinese mill. Buy once and you never have to worry it it's going to breakdown. Quality costs money. Some tools you can make do. A quality mill that has proven workmanship is worth the peace of mind. A quality tools, a quality soldering torch with good craftsman ship is security for a tradesman. You can always tell a mark of a professional and that his tools and how well they take care of those tools. Clean them every day and put them in their place and they will last many lifetimes.

[@HWolfpaws]

Hello Andrew I have a problem that flat plates start developing bubbles or air pockets in them after rolling and annealing it. Is it a temperature issue or the casting problem in the start?

[@stevesatow]

Your rite hammering it is not near as easy to control the thickness as you reduce it. Plus you have no feel as to when to re anneal. The mill always does a better job and more uniform.

[@cpayne1757]

Hi - What is the make / model of the silver torch you are using...?? Thanks! -

[@Atthebench]

Check out the links in the description of the last livestream Question and Answers with Andrew Berry Live Stream 29th April 2020 - New Time of 15:30 BST kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3vOkKyoZaaUnNk

[@trvrthomas1]

just got a rolling mill and its a game changer!