Which Gas Bottle and Regulator do I need?

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This is a helpful video going over what Gas bottle is best for different purposes and countries. Mike also talks about which Regulator you will need for those gas bottles.

[@bigyin2794]

Mike that was brilliant, thanks so much. I've always been a bit confused about the gas options. Thanks for taking the time to explain it!

[@dominicwalmsley9072]

A very helpful video. Thanks

[@sallyburgoine4751]

Thank you. Very useful

[@Dahni555]

great helpful video thank you

[@JC097]

I have a patio heater and have found getting the right bottle and regulator so complicated. I have three bottles all of them look the same and yet only one of them works.

[@DaddyMurray]

Very helpful thanks

[@mkleng]

Hi, thanks for the helpful info. I'm a beginner in all this so, appreciate any help, KZbin! Can I use a 6kg propane cylinder with a 100,000 BTU burner? (for cooking in the garden)

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

mkleng I can see no reason why you can’t use a 6kg propane bottle

[@mkleng]

@@AttwoollsCoUk Thanks for confirming. It's just that I read on a website for the 6kg gas cylinder, it says "Recommended Offtake: 40,000 BTU / hr" and I'll be using a burner that produces 100,000 BTU so I wasn't sure if by using this 6kg cylinder, whether I will get the full 100,000 BTU benefit. Website here: www.gssgas.co.uk/product/propane-6kg-leisure-gas-bottle

[@kimtrumpputin5307]

Help Help I have a screw type regulator 30mbar but my cylinder has a clip on.. How do I connect the regulator to the cylinder.. Do I need an adapter for the cylinder..???

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

KimTruMp PutiN you would need to purchase a new regulator for the cylinder with is the correct fitting I am afraid.

[@T0mat0S0up]

I have an American BBQ that I want to connect to a propane tank I bought. What do I need to do? It has an American QCC1 regulator but I don’t seem to be able to find an adapter that connects both. The tank I have seems to only fit with a UK quick fit regulator.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

You need to buy a 27mm Patio Gas regulator for Flo-Gas Leisuregas / Calor Patio Gas cylinders or a POL screw on propane regulator for regular UK propane cylinders ie Calor Flo-Gas or equivalent brands.

[@nazmor661]

is the ones made of plastic is safe? they want to introduce it in my country.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

You should also check your equipment instructions to find out what type of cylinder is suitable for use with your equipment. Some equipment can equally run on butane and propane with no loss of performance : - Butane is best suited to spring and summer use as it burns slightly hotter and much cleaner than propane (perhaps just a very slight yellow tipping visible to the top of your burner flames) and cooks food slightly faster too, Propane can be used all year round and has the advantage of operating at much cooler temperatures down to -42c whereas butane fails to work (if at all) in cooler temperatures. If equipment instructions state PROPANE GAS ONLY, then it is imperative that you follow this recommendation.

[@123ChrisG]

Thanks

[@jocelynnjorima7801]

Please add the dize: ..? Kgs n hw to order

[@Chris-nl8lo]

Does any one know if you can get a high pressure clip on regulator?I've just got one of the green BBQ gass bottle I was hoping to use it for a small forge I can't seem the right regulator.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

No. The valve for Calor Patio Gas cylinders is specific to the Patio Gas 27mm regulator and won't operate with any other type of propane regulator at 37mbar pressure. You will have to purchase a regular Calor Propane cylinder with POL screw on connection and use a screw on propane regulator. Bullfinch Gas Equipment Limited have some high pressure regulators for propane from 1 bar to 3 bar pressure and these are available from many larger Calor Gas dealers and Calor Centres selling Bullfinch equipment. BOC and Murex also sell high pressure single stage propane regulators for cutting / scarfing equipment, and this may also help as these are high pressure, these are sold at BOC Gas & Gear Centres and some BOC / Murex Welding Equipment stockists.

[@Chris-nl8lo]

@@anthonyperkins7556 thanks mate

[@vincenttruong342]

This may be out of the topic. Let's say I purchase a cooking appliance, a griddle, or a bbq from germany. and then I move to Sweden and take the thing with me and get another type of gas bottle because of availability (PC/PK5 is common in Sweden), but the fitting is different. So I most likely have to swap the regulator but my regulator is from germany and it is rated for 50mbar and the Swedish regulator is 30mbar. Can I swap them or do I have to look for the same gas bottle because of the regulator fitting?

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

The regulator tends to be unique TJ the bottle, so you can’t change the regulator without changing the bottle. Some companies like Campingaz distribute to all over the world so you can get refills where ever you travel. Where as PC, Calor or PK5 are normally just available in the country you are situated.

[@CMB_Vinyl]

I've just bought a patio heater & it's came with the regulator for the patio gas bottle. If I already have an orange propane bottle could I just change the regulator & use that as a fuel source for the patio heater instead of buying a patio gas bottle?

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

Yeah you certainly can. By simply changing the regulator you’d be able to use a bottle of your choice.

[@CMB_Vinyl]

@@AttwoollsCoUk Thanks for getting back to me!

[@charlotteuk9752]

Good luck to anyone who wants to get an initial first bottle in the UK right now as it's simply impossible. Calor, Flogas and all have suspended all new contracts/purchases as they simply don't have the stock to fulfil the needs of those who already have bottles let alone new customers who have purchased BBQ's etc but for love nor money can get any bottles to use them. It's a pretty piss poor situation and one that is not gonna get any better real soon either :(

[@andrewkirwin4910]

Look at a refillable system from gas fit you can refill these at lpg petrol stations for less than half the price of a swap with calor

[@andrewkirwin4910]

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[@robertslater5706]

When weather gets cold, like today where it’s freezing out, my has stove won’t come on... it runs for a few seconds then dwindles out. Is this a problem with my regulator or the gas bottle itself???

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

If you have a blue (butane) bottle then it will be the gas as it doesn’t work well at low temperatures, so I would change the regulator and get a orange (propane) bottle which will work at minus figures.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

Butane is useless and fails to vaporise at 5c 41f and below.

[@DJChipsandGarlic]

i have a butane bottle that i just acquired for a camp stove. its from a company called energas its a 4.5kg with a black cap. would this require the 20mm clip on regulator? cheers

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

Unfortunately I am not familiar with that brand so I wouldn’t be able to advise. Sorry.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

No. You cannot use a clip-on butane regulator with a 4.5kg Butane cylinder. You need a screw-on butane regulator for that sort of cylinder.

[@davidf4897]

Would have been useful to have a close up of the regulators.

[@rorydevlin7078]

Exactly what I was thinking.... Anyone who knows what the look like probably won't need help

[@garydsouza2335]

my gas bottle is a red 11kg calor gas propane with a male thread on the outside, what fitting is that.. its about 22mm

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

It might be worth taking a photo of it and emailing it to us. We can advise from there. Our email is [e-mail]

[@lukejones1244]

Dont they refill calor gas bottles in Europe? Am I right there is also a red propane campinggaz bottle, like the one you showed at the end?

[@anthonyperkins7556]

No calor gas is only available in the UK, Campingaz has always been butane and has never offered propane in its cylinders.

[@lukejones1244]

@@anthonyperkins7556 Thanks for your answer to my second question. Can you answer the first?

[@anthonyperkins7556]

@@lukejones1244 Calor Gas bottles are not refillable nor exchangeable in Europe, Calor Gas is only available in the UK, in the Republic of Eire although the gas is the same, the bottle sizes are slightly different.

[@pablo72012]

Which would last longer in a patio heater a cylinder of butane or propane

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

There wouldn’t be much in it to be honest, typical they tend to recommend using propane as it tends to burn at a higher rate.

[@mamamiasummer6386]

Could of done with seeing the regulators close up so we know which is which.. I'm really struggling to find a bottle that fits mine 🤷‍♀️

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

mamamia summer What bottle/brand have you got? www.attwoolls.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=Regulator

[@micheleblyton2896]

Can you use a 4.5kg butane bottle on a heater, that should take a 15kg bottle?

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

You would be able to, if just might run out of gas quite quickly.

[@MsMuddled]

FYI - Calor Gas is also in Ireland!

[@rash2700]

Is it possible to use my patio gas with an outdoor stove or burner

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

You can yes, you just need to make sure you have the correct hose and regulator.

[@gingerisvegan]

Can Campingaz bottles be refilled/ exchanged in the UK?

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

Hi Helena Yes they can, a refill/exchange can be done anywhere in the UK & even world wide.

[@gingerisvegan]

@@AttwoollsCoUk that’s great news, thank you!

[@jayk2k]

if you no longer need your empty gas bottle , can you sell it back to calor ?

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

jay fornow you can return your bottle and get money back for it but only if you have the original paperwork which you were given when you purchased the bottle.

[@mpalaskokkalis1476]

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[@Dg-zj6jo]

where can i get 6kg red bottle cant buy any where

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

Unfortunately Calor have put a stop on new bottles as they are currently having trouble keeping up with demand for existing bottles in circulation. So I am afraid the best option at this moment in time is to purchase a Campingaz Bottle.

[@sparkmeister4706]

Cute and informative

[@cipherhex]

He is rather, isn't he

[@louis1211]

What if I put the propane regulator on a butane bottle

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

Louis you wouldn’t be able to as it is a different size. The fittings are different.

[@AttwoollsCoUk]

Louis you wouldn’t be able to as it is a different size. The fittings are different.

[@anthonyperkins7556]

You can't do that. Butane and propane screw on regulators have different threads (LH and RH). Butane clip on regulators only fit butane cylinders with a 21mm valve (Calor Gas Butane / Flo-Gas Butane (yellow) / Birmingham Auto Gas and similarly), and propane clip on regulators only fit propane cylinders with a 27mm valve (Calor Patio Gas / Flo-Gas Leisuregas and similar).

[@justjoanie8068]

Thought I was going to learn how to fit the regulator🙄

[@TERFClub]

Calor Gas piss me off and always sell me the wrong bottle for my regulator. Now I have to go back again!!! Grrrr

[@anthonyperkins7556]

kyla porter check your equipment instructions for the type of gas and cylinder that you need, this should be stated. It will either state it can run on both butane and propane or PROPANE GAS ONLY. Armed with this, pick up a cylinder of your choice from a Calor Gas dealer, if in doubt, take the appliance regulator with you if unsure, they'll know precisely what you want and provide it.

[@chrissyyeoman2850]

this doesn't tell me if I can use the connection for an indoor gas burner hob. ( obviously gas bottle is outdoors and connected through )

[@jordantellalov4570]

Didn't really explain anything about adapters, threads and so on...😑

[@1963yosh]

Those bottles are cylinders !!!

[@elsiehiggs7428]

Never heard of plastic ones. All I can say is I would never go near one!