So glad to hear it still has the internal thread on new bottles.
@AndrewTomes-xo4ug Жыл бұрын
Great clear explanation. Went to a hardware shop today to swap a gas bottle and they told me I could only use a bottle with a POL fitting. Now all makes sense and I dont have to worry about changing house fittings. Thanks
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@alisterwood84403 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video! I wasn’t sure whether my old connection would work but you answered that straight away! 👍
@FormanddesignAu3 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. I’m glad it helped
@thedronedownunder3919 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of the changes. Thank you for posting.
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@shtuwang9 ай бұрын
great explanation. unfortunately my POL fitting will not fit my LCC27 cylinder. i reckon someone has borked the thread. anyway, trip to bunnings for some new gas lines.
@HeerShahzaib10 ай бұрын
I thought i need to change my regulator.Thankyou for saving my time
@FormanddesignAu10 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for your comment
@tommoss20055 ай бұрын
Thanks. Very helpful and informative. I bought a gas bottle gauge from Bunnings today, not realising it had the LCC27 connection. It was only when I checked on line that I learned about the change from POL to LCC in 2021 and found myself suddenly pannicking, thinking that if I changed out my Swap and Go bottle it wouldn't be compatible with my BBQ, Caravan, etc. Reasuring to know that I can still connect both types.
@FormanddesignAu5 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@andrewrose9707 Жыл бұрын
Very clear video thanks mate. Only found out about LLC-27 today when I assembled our new external portable gas heater. We had also grabbed a new gas bottle for it from the regular swap and go area. Surprise, surprise it didn't fit! Hopefully we can swap the bottle for the LLC-27. The heater and bottle was actually bought a couple of weeks ago
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I’m glad it helped
@Stevegrande14 ай бұрын
Very informative. I just got a new outdoor heater with the new connection and I thought what the hell is going on here lol. Just solved my problem. Thankyou
@FormanddesignAu4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@WAYNEGREGORY-o9m8 ай бұрын
Well said... You saved me time and negated confusion.
@FormanddesignAu8 ай бұрын
I’m glad it helped
@iaksairoj9 ай бұрын
One of my gas bottles has the LCC-27 fitting but the tap is not black as stated here in the video, it is green just like my other bottle with the POL fitting. The external coarse thread makes it obvious it is an LCC-27 fitting. This bottle was purchased from Bbq’s Galore.
@PittwaterMowingAustralia Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the lpg gas fittings Great clear explanation
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@tysontyson12442 ай бұрын
Thank you for my propane education.
@o0FranklySpeaking0o9 ай бұрын
Great video, cleared up questions i had to WTF was going on when replacing a bottle today
@FormanddesignAu9 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@colinweir5807 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your info. Fast forward to Set 2023 and maybe less than 10 years. There is push to eliminate gas usage all together.
@flying_Color Жыл бұрын
Thank you for solving all my questions of BBQ in AU
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@jackreacher7183 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear information about the types..
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful
@johnvarricchio68569 ай бұрын
Thanks a million mate You have explained that brilliantly 🏆🏆
@FormanddesignAu9 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@jaybles97 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation almost had to take out a return policy refund, now I’m stress free knowing Australia has now adapted to an American gas fitting. Now in search for an LCC 27 fitting, also definitely a lot more safer knowing that gas won’t leak if knocked. When will we adopt the same standard fitting for diving tanks where if knocked then gas pressure can not release.
@ParadigmImagesVideoPhotography Жыл бұрын
thank you for your excellent explanation.
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@maaaa1234568 ай бұрын
Cheers Andrew, thanks mate for clearing things up !
@FormanddesignAu8 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@starhopper4577 ай бұрын
Honestly, I prefer the POL fitting. I feel they are more secure and for me have less leaks around the RV. I know the other ones are only supposed be done hand tight but sometimes to seal them tight, I've had to use channel locks, which I don't like to do.
@shankarannamalai33287 ай бұрын
Very good explanation and demo. Thanks
@FormanddesignAu7 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@FawadBilgrami4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was wondering if I needed the new pipe or not.
@FormanddesignAu2 күн бұрын
Glad I could help
@paulalvarezdelcastillo4117 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very thorough explanation!
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@mehdiasgharzadeh516211 ай бұрын
thanks mate, just heard it has changed to lcc27 😁, thanks for sharing
@FormanddesignAu10 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@356cruzer4 Жыл бұрын
Thanks did the clear explanation 👍
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@shubbz8711 ай бұрын
Thanks I need a new bottle for my new furnace 😭
@gailcohen4538 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very clear response.
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@helendorning44507 ай бұрын
Excellent instruction: thank you!!
@FormanddesignAu7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kiemdochoi6 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew
@FormanddesignAu6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome
@terrymarshall49647 ай бұрын
great video, thank you
@FormanddesignAu7 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@StevenYoung-j5mАй бұрын
I just found out about this chage recently whilst talking to my gasfitter. I don't have a problem with the change, but would be interested to know if there is a safetey issue that I came across years ago whilst changing out a forklift bottle. The fork gas bottle has that same feature of not allowing gas out of the cylinder until thje fiting is attached. However, in the incident I mentioned, I once changed out a cylinder, not realising that the tap had been left openAs a consequence, I got a gas burn on my hand when I inserted the fitting and straight away the gas came out before having a chance to screw in the fitting! After that, I made it a habit to check the tap prior to fitting the hose, but I have so far not seen any comments about this happeningI would be interseted to know if it can still happen with these new fittings, as currently I don't have one ot try out.
@FormanddesignAu26 күн бұрын
Firstly, you make a good comment that you should always check that a valve is properly closed before attaching or removing a fitting. Secondly, it sounds like both the forklift LPG bottle and the propane bottle (in the video) use a similar kind of safety/check valve. However removing our attaching a fitting to the bottle when the valve is open will always create some kind of pressure blow back even if only momentary. The tightening nut on the propane bottles have a shroud that should give some protection from the gas blow back when removing the fitting when the valve is open but the bigger problem could be the tightening nut flying out of your hands from the back pressure. I haven’t tested this and I really don’t intend to try it. The best and safest way to handle these fittings is to always double check that the valve is closed when attaching or removing a fitting.
@tomnguyen10152 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 🙏👍
@FormanddesignAu2 ай бұрын
Welcome 👍
@dragan32903 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info 👍. I thought my son got the wrong bottle for my weber Q? Cheers 👍
@PHiLYOHARA Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@minxythemerciless6 ай бұрын
The POL connector has a nitrile rubber seal on the tip. I can't see any form of seal on the LCC27. How does the LCC27 regulator seal to an LCC valve? And how does the POL regulator seal to the LCC27 valve? Edit to add: The original POL connector did not have a seal and used metal on metal but quite quickly manufacturers found it was prone to leak so they added a variety of rubber seals; settling on the bullnose and oring variety. Will Australia need to go through the same discovery process?
@mpalaskokkalis14767 ай бұрын
Perfect gas
@harveyhutchinson8266Ай бұрын
You can get an adapter for your gas bottle so you can use either fitting
@FormanddesignAuАй бұрын
Following your comment, I have searched online for either POL to LCC27 adaptors or LCC27 to POL adaptors and found none to suit LCC27 fittings in Australia. There are plenty of QCC to POL adaptors for the US market (available online in Australia through foreign sellers), but these are not for the Australian market, so my comments are restricted to the Australian specification for the LCC27 fitting. A gas bottle fitted with an LCC27 valve assembly accepts both LCC27 and POL fittings, so no adaptor required there! If you have a bottle with a POL valve assembly the easiest, simplest and safest way to allow it to accept a LCC27 fitting is to go to a petrol station or hardware store and swap your old POL bottle for a bottle with a LCC27 valve assembly. If you were to attach a fitting to an old POL bottle to accept a LCC27 fitting then you are introducing another possible source for leaks. Also this suggests that your bottle is older and it would be wise to change it over for a newer bottle that accepts both fittings. The swap system does not care if the bottle is yours or belonging to some other swap brand. They are happy to have your business. You are not talking about a lot of extra money to swap the bottle over either. Additionally, if you want to keep the swapped bottle and then get it refilled instead of swapping it then you can do that. My recommendation is to go with the safer option and not use inline adaptors when there is a simpler and safer system available.
@AbdulkadirMairakuma6 ай бұрын
Tnx u saved my gas from escaping
@KneelB4NoMan Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a new POL fitting for my tank and for some reason I can’t get it to release any gas using this new fitting. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@HDXFH Жыл бұрын
POL TO LCC27 adaptors are available too
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Be warned that these adaptors do not provide the additional safety that the LCC27 bottle fitting provides. The safety valve is not included in the adaptors. Also if purchasing one of these adaptors make sure you are buying a POL to LCC27 adaptor and not the American QCC adaptors. It’s just a whole lot easier and safer to swap your bottle for an LCC27 bottle through one of the bottle swap outlets. They’ll happily swap your own bottle for one of theirs.
@jamie-dd9pt Жыл бұрын
What about the 2 burner they come with a black hose and that's it
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
I'll duplicate the response to your previous comment here. "Firstly, I'm only talking about Australian standards. It's impossible to tell where you are from without you identifying your country. If you are not from Australia this does not apply to you. If you are from Australia, I think that you are referring to small bbq's or camping stoves typically purchased from camping shops. If this is the case, then you can find these smaller items supplied with a simple black hose and a hex shaped coupling on the end which is not at all like the the POL or LCC27 fitting in the video. In that case the video is not for you and should ignore it. If you do have the smaller bbq/camping stove with the simpler fitting then these fittings are designed for very small gas bottles of 2kg or less, not the 5 to 9 kg bottles referred to in the video. I hope that helps."
@mat72479 ай бұрын
Must be a heap of ppl including me that have been caught out upgrading their bbq. Off to the the server to swap to a newer fitting bottle. 😮💨
@SpitfireExtra8 ай бұрын
Hello and thanks! I see UK, Aus and also here in Sweden we have LH 5/8 POL connectors. UK and Sweden are not the same. How about Aus POL. Is it same as UK or Sweden?
@FormanddesignAu8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I have to admit that I really don’t know the answer to your question.
@AK-bi7vq Жыл бұрын
Thanks for detailed explanation. What’s the option with old floor bayonet inlet? Should it be changed by a licensed plumber or I can change it myself?
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
That’s a good question. It’s not compatible. DO NOT TOUCH IT. The bayonet fitting is for natural gas. Gas bottles are filled with propane. The gases are different as are the delivery pressures. They have different regulators and different burners. Note this relates to Australia only. Always use a licensed gas fitter to change or adapt gas fittings wherever you are in the world. Seek their advice in the first instance
@petrochemicals4u2 ай бұрын
Can you get an adapter in case you're camping and forget ?
@FormanddesignAu2 ай бұрын
Instead of looking for and purchasing an adaptor, consider either buying or swapping your bottle. The new valve assemblies accommodate both POL and LCC27 fittings
@decossar8 ай бұрын
Do you need a licensed gas fitter to change the hoses over? I i know it's easy but i don't want to give the insurance co. a way out
@FormanddesignAu8 ай бұрын
If in doubt, get a licensed gas fitter. It’s always good practice to check the integrity of any gas fitting, new or old, by using soapy water around the fitting. If it bubbles then the fitting is not safe. The fitting needs to be under internal pressure (ie gas flowing through) for the test to be valid.
@samh716210 ай бұрын
lifesaver :) thankyou!
@FormanddesignAu10 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@christopherbraddy2650 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Question... do you know if the LCC-27 is the same as the US QCC-1 fitting? They look the same... however I've seen there are different POL standards around the world!
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
I really don’t know. I was only commenting on the Australian situation. I believe that the Australian fittings are unique to Australia
@jaybles97 Жыл бұрын
Thread size might differ but it is the same concept as American qcc1 gas cylinder fittings.
@rodbender7946 Жыл бұрын
No there is a small difference in the shape of the brass cone so the AU version was unique
@ParadigmImagesVideoPhotography Жыл бұрын
how about the small gas bottle the 3 kilo? will they make one with LCC 27?
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
No. As far as I know LCC27 fittings will not be applied to the smaller camping style gas bottles. LCC27 fittings will be progressively fitted to the “leisure series” bottles such as the 4-5kg and 9 kg bottles like those typically available through gas bottle swap outlets. This only applies to Australia.
@ParadigmImagesVideoPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@FormanddesignAu thanks for that, I do have 2 x 9kilos and one 3 kilos, I meanly use the 3 Kilo one till it runs out , then change to 9 kilos till I fill the 3 kilos. They very new, will keep for now.
@michael9616 Жыл бұрын
How do you fit a pressure guage to the new fitting
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
I mean this with all sincerity, but if you are asking that question I would strongly recommend that you seek the assistance of a gas fitter/plumber to help you. If you are not familiar with how to change a gas fitting then you might create a situation where gas could leak from the fittings and cause a fire. Incorrectly installed gas fittings account for a large proportion of injuries from gas operated appliances. FYI gas hoses with regulator, pressure gauge, and LCC27 fittings are sold as a complete unit from camping stores and hardware stores
@margarethobbs24718 ай бұрын
Just bought new barbecue . Where Is the seal Ring
@FormanddesignAu8 ай бұрын
I’m not sure what you are referring to. Perhaps you’re question would be better directed to where you purchased the bbq from
@sniffinout93168 күн бұрын
What the hell does "POL" and "LCC" stand for?
@FormanddesignAu8 күн бұрын
POL stands for “Prest-O-Lite” the name of the company that developed the fitting. LCC stands for “Leisure Cylinder Connection”.
@PoisonShot20 Жыл бұрын
Question to anyone here! I have an old tank, old valve system, its full, I bought an adapter for it, but my new grill hose conection only works on the new tanks. How I go about to use the lp gas that its in the old tank! Hate to waste it opening the valve to air it out. Finding an old grill and remove the hoses and install on the new grill, just to use the gas in the old tank?
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
The following comments are specific to AUSTRALIAN gas bottle systems only! The new LCC27 system on your new BBQ is safer than the older POL fittings. Also if you are using an older POL bottle it might be out of date and could be dangerous with prolonged use. You might be better off investigating gas bottle swapping systems through petrol stations and hardware stores. Check out this article from ELGAS www.elgas.com.au/disposal-recycling-lpg-gas-bottles-cylinders/
@PoisonShot20 Жыл бұрын
@@FormanddesignAu I understand all that you said! I just want to use the full tank that I have, not to waste the gas, than recycle the tank. I have the new ones, and use them on my new grill. Maybe I wasn't clear enough explaining my question. Thanks any way!
@jamie-dd9pt Жыл бұрын
So why is everyone selling gas burners with just a black hose.
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
"Everyone" might be an exaggeration. Firstly, I'm only talking about Australian standards. It's impossible to tell where you are from without you identifying your country. If you are not from Australia this does not apply to you. If you are from Australia, I think that you are referring to small bbq's or camping stoves typically purchased from camping shops. If this is the case, then you can find these smaller items supplied with a simple black hose and a hex shaped coupling on the end which is not at all like the the POL or LCC27 fitting in the video. In that case the video is not for you and should ignore it. If you do have the smaller bbq/camping stove with the simpler fitting then these fittings are designed for very small gas bottles of 2kg or less, not the 5 to 9 kg bottles referred to in the video. I hope that helps.
@Garde538 Жыл бұрын
Pain in the ass, new appliane means new bottle as well
@FormanddesignAu Жыл бұрын
Not really. You'll get a safer bottle and you can simply swap your bottle (even if you own it, for a pre-filled and checked bottle) at a petrol station that uses Swap-n-Go or other bottle swap systems. It's hardly onerous and you don't have to wait around for someone to fill your bottle.
@sysublime50919 ай бұрын
Oh good. I am sailing from Los Angeles NEWCASTLE THEN to NELSONS BAY. so that means I dont have to replace THE american propane tanks. I CAN STILL GET. THE 11KG FIBERGLASS TANKS FILLED.
@sysublime50919 ай бұрын
Wow next you actually might drive onbl the right hand side of the road. Then i can bring out my 2024 Dodge Ram 3500 and my 2023 Dodge Challenger out there. A d wont have to chabge it from left to right hand drive.