ATV AD-H14 Hi-hats Review

[@alexanderhei5665]

To reduce the loudness when closed, there's a simple solution: Just pull the sensor out of the lower cymbal (it does not damage it, you can simply put it back on) and use it without the lower cymbal. It feels even better in my opinion.

[@chezchezchezchez]

They should rename the ATV company to “Everything’s $500”. Damn. I want the ride too.

[@jamiebillyeald5600]

Dam I wish that everything was 500 for 1000 you could have 2, modules 3 crashes, 4 toms , double bass, and a side snare with what is some of the best pads and cymbals on the market and I just realised you could use the top of the 2nd hi hat as a China!

[@tackyboots1774]

In the US they might as well rename ATV to Unobtanium Inc. Very shortly you will have to go overseas to buy them, ATV not distributing them in US anymore after last orders went to dealers in March/Apr.

[@chezchezchezchez]

Tacky Boots why Are they doing that?

[@tackyboots1774]

@@chezchezchezchez In a word, "tariffs". Prolly too lengthy to get into here, there are discussions on vdrums forums etc. But they made announcements around NAMM time. Bottom line is the gear is mfgd in China and the import tariffs were higher than ATV USA wanted to pay so they let the next shipments sit offshore or in customs hoping the tariffs would drop back down before they imported. US ATV dealers with customers who had ordered didnt know what to tell their customers and some like Sweetwater got tired of telling customers "I dont know" and bailed. Then Corona struck but the handwriting was already on the wall, remember NAMM was in January I think.

[@chezchezchezchez]

Tacky Boots thx buddy.

[@482jpsquared]

A point worth noting, not to be argumentative, when you say "no one ever does that" at 5:25 about choking a hi hat, jazz players use that technique a lot. As a drummer trained in the jazz genre, I appreciate that about these hi hats. By the way, great playing at 6:18.

[@djnixmixMTL]

At first, I believed he meant no other edrum company does 360 deg. choke, but maybe he meant what you thought...

[@MikeLuke]

Thanks for this, Justin. I really do appreciate you being always honest and not biased even when you companies send you stuff for free. That’s a real value of your channel. Would be great if you might tell how this reacts in combination with VST.

[@Mudge07]

For those with the ultimate in e-drum hardware as their goal then this hi-hat is a slightly noisy leader. I would’ve liked to see you demonstrate those three zones as the playing on the edge and mid cymbal certainly show this item to be an extremely expressive piece of kit in the right hands. Glad ATV chose you to put their wares under scrutiny, solid feedback for us all to digest, much appreciated.

[@downbeat67]

I had these for about six months. To reduce the noise I had to put some foam rubber tape around the edge of the bottom cymbal. In comparison to the VH-13 hats the ATV’s top cymbal is about a 1/2 pound heavier and much louder without adding some sort of noise damping to the bottom cymbal. My biggest issue was the edge switch on the hats. It requires you to hit the edge at a shallower angle than the VH-13. So for you players that like to set your hi-hats high you will need to modify your play technique a bit. You can hear evidence of this at the 6:00 mark when Justin is playing the edge closed at steep angle. You can clearly hear the top sound being triggered, not the edge.

[@schenkevin7]

Electronic drum nerds. Aren't we all?

[@65Drums]

That's true Kevin haha :)

[@MOREtoocozycam]

Yup!

[@thiagoj.7900]

Kevin totally LoL

[@PLFORTE1]

This review was spot on. I've had this on my main drum set for about 6 months and it's really something. The loudness thing is my only complaint but I also haven't seen any dents yet so if that happens I'll have two things to complain about. I also think it's overpriced like all of their other drums, but it's a WAYYY better deal than the VH-13 for almost half the cost of that insanely overpriced monster. I also own a the VH-11 and the VH-12 and they're all pretty much the same in terms of accuracy and realism but they all need to be tuned well and have a decent hi hat stand in case further adjustments are needed. So basically, I don't think there's any notable playing or functionality advantage (beyond the 360 triggering) of this thing versus a VH-11 or VH-12. The VH-13 I can't really speak of much. You seemed to get all the important information in here and I'm really glad you pointed out how the top part is just one of their 14" cymbals and that it can be choked all around - I never even thought about chocking a hi hat or even if any module could do that but apparently the TD-30 can.

[@65Drums]

Hey thanks for your thoughts on these. I love them too. The fact that they trigger 360, are a full 14", and are $250 less than the VH13 make me recomend them for any upgrade.

[@markomarkovic5729]

Well, it is expensive, but all cymbals are, both acoustic and electronic... Just like Zildjian K customs, or Meinl Byzance. Quality stuff costs more, but more important - will last longer

[@charliesdrumshed9328]

Marko Marković Wow someone who gets it acoustic or electronic are expensive no surprise

[@chezchezchezchez]

Can the td-17 choke it?

[@markomarkovic5729]

Charlie's Drum Shed I don't understand your comment. Peter said that those hats are overpriced and my point was that quality acoustic cymbals are in the same price range, but with e-cymbals you can get whatever sound you want, and A customs (which are awesome) will always be bright, and if you want darker sound, you will have to switch to different cymbals

[@FranksDrumCave]

Yet another reason for me to LOVE Adrums! And hate the fact that these won't work with my 502 module. Justin, thanks for the great review!

[@BOCCHIERIJOSE]

Thnx for this video. I just bought one and waiting for it to arrive.

[@Clairvoyant81]

The price is steep, but if the thing is a valid alternative to a VH-13, I don't think ATV has any incentive to reduce the price.

[@MagnumOpus007]

Great review, as always! I've had my ATV hats for several months and absolutely love them. The 360 playing surface is awesome., as is their response and feel. Great product for sure. You can use felt under the top hat if you want noise dampening. Hasn't bothered me, however.

[@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums]

a great review as usual, Justin! a great hi-hat for jazz drummers and e-nerds in general ;) I hope your camera is ok!!

[@martymet]

thanks for the video Justin! I was just about to pull the trigger on one of these but will be going a different direction, mainly because of price. But these hi hats look gorgeous. My favorite looking hi hat on the market as of now.

[@timothybrannigan]

This video is a big help for me, thanks! I’m seeing an ATV EXS-5 kit in my future. I use my e-drums to trigger Superior Drummer, so onboard sounds don’t matter as much to me. That being said, when playing live I try to stick with 1 kit. The ATV sounds are super dry sounding, but I think they’re pretty natural sounding.

[@DrumminDrew0]

It seems like the sound options are limited to tight closed and all the way open. I didn't really hear any variations of loosely closed sounds that would be used a lot in rock playing. Unless I'm doing some fancy HH work, I almost never have it closed tight and I never play it wide open. Would this be a factor of the hardware or the module?

[@PEP.]

module

[@johnburkhalter9881]

Hey Justin I recently bought the ad5 for my a2e kit. I use the alesis prox hats with a roland cy12 on top. It worls flawlessly with the ad5 using the trigger setting for the atv hats.

[@fromthesun]

How's it compare to the vhd14d if I was using a Roland td27 ? Cheers 🍻

[@Camst648]

Interesting film :-). I have the Roland VH13, so I'm okay. I think it is very good that there are something to choose between so i aplaude both brands.

[@Drumming-Life]

After watching your vid on Roland vs ATV ride cymbals, I purchased an ATV ride and absolutely love it! Only thing I would change is the fact that it turns when you play it. I need a solution for that.

[@derrinruschell8538]

I have 2 aD-C14 cymbals and neither of them properly trigger the edge. No matter where I play, they only ever trigger the bow sensor. I haven't been able to find anyone else with this issue, but the chances of getting two faulty cymbals is pretty low. Has anyone else run into this issue?

[@acmekanik9135]

Great review. I came across this and remembered I had bought one of these when I still had my TD50. I wasnt happy at all when trying to use it with the 50 so I turned it into an overpriced splash and thats the way it stayed until today...lol. I saw this and was like sheeit, I got the mimic now. I wonder how it would work with it. Bro, I had been so fustrated with my old VH-12's as it had a dead spot in the movement just coming into wide open that was making me insane. I hooked up the ATV hats and they work GREAT with the mimic. I will never go back to a ROland hi hat. Unless they figure out a way to make the digitals work with the mimic anyways....lol.

[@gowronsonofmrel867]

Thanks for the review man literally watched all your videos lol think I'm gonna grab amthe ATV artist kit! Wish me luck lol

[@timothybrannigan]

The Voice of Drum - I wish I could afford an Artist kit! I’m settling for an ESX-5 kit, but I’m excited to get it.

[@corynash8570]

Does anyone have any experience on how well these work with the strike module?

[@johndef5075]

Just saw Rick Allen live. He was using those Yamaha silicone pads for snare and toms.

[@65Drums]

Yes he switched brands since I made the video

[@beans4677]

Hey 65 drums. I'm an intermediate drum player and only 14. I currently have a crappy e-drum set from some unknown company which has been completely worn out. My 9 year old sister is starting to get into drumming as-well and i would really like to buy a brand new drum set for the both of us. As I am only 14, the money would mostly come out of my parents bank account. Do you think I should go for something like a Roland TD1KV even though I know I'd be happier with a better overall drum kit, or something like a Roland TD17KV (Which I've had my eye on for a while) I would love to know your opinion. And If anyone else has the answers please feel free to reply on my comment. Thanks!

[@Drumming-Life]

Would you consider doing a review video on the ATV snare drum, please?

[@Memoreno94]

This is one of the major problem i'm stumbling upon at. What is better the ATV or Roland td-50k? Because the accuracy is much better with the Roland I'm willing to pay a couple more 100's on the TD 50K.

[@TheOGNoName]

I can't say anything about the ATV but i play a TD-50K. I have been drumming for 20 years and i have not had any complaints about the hi hat on this set. It's actually much more accurate and spot on than i expected. I can't compare for you, but i can tell you that the TD-50K is the best electronic set I've ever played on and i was so happy with the purchase.

[@johnpietrolaj8917]

Thanks for the review! It was very informative!

[@edrummidi9041]

Great vídeo Justin! 👏👏👏

[@MNUFCLoonatic]

When you said here is some performance footage an ad came on

[@DrumCoversbyBill]

Very cool, thank you for sharing this very informative review.

[@markomarkovic5729]

Very clean singles Justin, nice man

[@jonhoffpauir8105]

Is there a volume difference between this and the VH 13 (2 piece also) or are they the same since both two piece? Thanks

[@BillDiMarco]

Im still making it through all of your videos, so forgive me if you covered this: What hihat stand would you recommend for a edrummer moving from a mounted hihat? the gearhead in me wants a nice $200-$300 stand but the realist in me is questioning if that's even necessary for say a VH-10 hihat. all im sure of is i definitely want a two-leg but should i worry about more featureful stands or should i just get something that opens and closes with no frills? Thanks!

[@davefiano4172]

Great review. I play all around the surface, so I need the 360 triggering. I actually like the look of the cymbals surface wise, to my own surprise

[@kickstar1]

Do you have any thoughts on whether the triggering would be improved for use with SD3? I have a Roland TD30KV w with Vh-13 hats. The triggering is OK but not perfect. Wondering if this would help or if it is more of a software issue. Thanks!

[@andybdrumming2191]

Really wish you would have let us now what settings you used to dial it in on the module.

[@T-H-X]

what I noticed about the atv hihat. the edge sound is not well resolved. fast triplet single beats at the edge are played either as tip sound or as edge sound. there are also dead zones at the edge. I only noticed this when playing softly, although I already have sensitivity to 32. i have tested some atv cymbals. they all have the same problem. atv still has to make improvements in the next generation of these cymbals.

[@bluesiliconedot2190]

They require modifying your hitting technique, there’s a video by Mike Schneider that explains how to hit them properly

[@kenmarcou]

Will these work with the Millennium MPS-1000 module?

[@biekanez1]

Great video my friend, I think there will be a digital Hihat of Roland soon. 👍🤛😎🍺

[@norcaltaz40]

A couple of questions. Does also do the change in pitch when depressed while closed like the VH-13? Also, what default trigger settings does it use with Roland Modules (ie VH-13, VH-10)

[@OthonasDrums]

Damn that's a nice looking hihat ,love that is 14 inches but 500 is a tough pill to swallow... Basically it's made for pros not hobbyists... Ever tried one of those Alesis 14 inch dual zone crashes on a hihat controller?

[@MOREtoocozycam]

Awesome video Justin!

[@65Drums]

Thanks Cam!

[@gregwilliams2764]

Works well with SD3? With midi mapping feature I mean

[@davidmatney5033]

Thank you and Great video as always! Would the ATV AD-H14's be compatible with an Alesis "Strike" controller?

[@destinythedrummer6567]

What the difference between a electric hi hats and original hi hats is there any difference between these to

[@teo-dev]

I like the clean look

[@stephendakin394]

Has anyone used these Hats with the Roland TD-15 module? I'm looking to replace my roland VH11 if these will work

[@chezchezchezchez]

Ok Justin! For the Td-17: Vh-10 or this?? I need to get one of them! How much more enjoyment will I get with the ATV? Thanks!

[@LeToplache007]

For a TD-17 drumset your 14" hi hat will seem out of place because it will be even bigger than your ride cymbal (if you are using the TD-17KVX). As he stated maybe this isn't the thing for a TD-17 user. A VH-10 would do you as good as anything. It may even trigger better.

[@chezchezchezchez]

LeToplache007 thanks for replying! I’m getting the atv 18” ride

[@jamiebillyeald5600]

@@chezchezchezchez in that case go for these

[@tackyboots1774]

@@LeToplache007 Haha that's funny :) hi hat will be bigger than ride cymbal

[@williammyslajek5196]

Hey man...I'm 16 years old and I'm looking for a drum set in the 800-1200 price range to get into recording on my computer...I have most of the stuff necessary to do so except the kit itself...I would like something that could fit in my room and has good sounds...thank you so much for your help

[@goggleman7670]

Hey man, I just got the atv adrums artist standard kit with the ad5 module for my church. When I set up the triggering for the hi hat, it doesn't let me set up an open hat. Why is this?

[@FPSBird]

Would this work with the roland td-11 module?

[@rorymayne2190]

Awesome video! Do you know if these hi hats will work with the Roland TD 3?

[@xr680r]

Now that the world has gone through a few cycles of CERN, and we don't have any idea of the value of our dollars, looking at Roland 14" digital hi hats, the idea of these hi hats have come back into view if you could get anything either way. Strange world, seems high end hi hats are just a tease of desire.

[@MrSzaroczek]

Hi, I got Roland TD-4, would it work with it, please?

[@mariojarque3466]

Hi!!! Does it work with Alesis DM 10? thanks

[@cleverdood]

great review, I really want to replace the hats on my Alesis SP kit. Debating a used VH-11 or splurging on these.

[@springgyfit4414]

Did you replace the hats? If so, which you did you get? I'm trying to buy one myself and I'm trying to figure out which one should I get

[@deanoishizaka5163]

I just got the hihats and haven't updated my pearl mimic pro module yet to the latest upgrade. It sounds like it's stuck in the closed position. And yes the power switch is on. I do not see any light on in the optics located inside the base of the hihats. Does anyone know if that light is visible? There's two small optics lights one is clear and the other I can't tell

[@johncallegari2721]

Yes, the light should be on. Check your adapter is plugged in properly. I just got the ATV hi hats yesterday and set them up with the Mimic pro. They were acoustically too loud so I took the bottom piece off (see v-drums forum for details). It plays as quiet now as VH-11s and is more accurate. I found you really have to res with the adjustment nut on the hi hat itself to get accurate response.

[@davo0593]

Hi Justin, great video. I saw in another review about the 18 inches ride Cymbal from atv that it was not actually 18 inches but 17 and a half maybe, so the same happens with the 14"?

[@65Drums]

It might be, but I don't think it makes a difference.

[@raps55]

Is it louder than the alesis two price hi hat

[@JesusLordOfLords455]

Great hihat

[@johnny8egood696]

Do they work with alesis DM10?

[@mikestein1024]

I played it at namm loved it ?

[@codyrainwater]

Hey man, could you (or anyone) help me out? I have an aDrums kit with a TD-17 module. I've gotten everything dialed in but I can NOT get the hi hat action. I'm not able to get all the nuanced foot performance, like the little claps and splashes. I've got it calibrated from the TD-17 and I'm just lost as to how to get it. Maybe it's just a downfall of using a Roland module with ATV hi hats. Has anyone had this problem? Should I have the pad assigned to a specific type? I just see all these videos with the natural sound of the hi hat with foot work and I'm unsure how they do it! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Besides that small hiccup, I love the ATV cymbals. All of them. They have great response, no dead spots, and they feel solid (aside from the bottom hi hat). Definitely recommend for anyone used to traditional kits who is looking to make the switch (or addition) to electronic drums. ATV is the absolute way to go.

[@ignaciogobet605]

i don't think the td17 is fully compatible with this hihat man.

[@codyrainwater]

Ignacio Gobet thats what I was afraid of. Thanks for the reply, my dude!

[@kipzimmerman2524]

Justin, Like.. We need a Double Mounted Hi Hat.

[@kipzimmerman2524]

The worst part on an Electronic kit. Is this. I support the VH-11 The cadilac of Hi hat's The Vh-10 is a cheap Toyota. It's Lighter. It Does not even feel or respond like the VH-11! Please review this!

[@gregwilliams2764]

Hi Justin. So if you were in a live situation which hihat would you use. Thanks

[@65Drums]

I would use a VH10 because it's quieter

[@ocolipsgaming5306]

Do you think I should buy a alesis nitro mesh to a beginner

[@Jake-ch8dn]

ocolips gaming save up for a td-17 or a slightly higher end Yamaha dtx, they’ll be more durable

[@AdamSmith-pk4xg]

Is this compatible with the pearl mimic pro ? Is there an easy way to find compatibility with e drums ? Thank you

[@65Drums]

It'll work with the mimic

[@isaacgoldEdrums]

Absolutely love your reviews man.....manage to nail all the basic fundamentals & features quite adequately for every product. My question for you is WHERE CAN I BUY ONE! I just saw that the new Roland Digital VH14D had just been released. However, although it is compatible with the TD27 module it apparently will only act as a regular analog pad and is really meant for the new TD50x for the sensors to work . Also $900 is a little insane (even though id buy it regardless if maybe I updated software on the TD27). Is there maybe link you can send my way to purchase the ATV AD-H14, i was diggin the sound! Thanks!

[@65Drums]

Edrum Center.com is the only dealer in the USA currently. Check out their site. Thanks for watching :)

[@OthonasDrums]

Hey Justin,i was wondering...Since the top hat is a normal 14 inch cymbal...Would it work with a vh-10 or vh11 controller?

[@johncallegari2721]

No, unlike Roland, it uses an optical sensor.

[@TheOGNoName]

Hey...i have a quick question. Unrelated to this video but i thought i would have a better chance at getting a reply. So I'm interested in starting a channel to post drum covers. I use a Roland TD50K. So i watched your video about the Irig and had a quick question. I use an ipod connected to the mix in plug on the drum module. So if i use the Irig setup, will it record the audio from the song that I'm playing over as well? That way i can just adjust the volumes of the song I'm playing to and the drums on the module and record everything at one time. The reason i ask is because I'm not sure how to go about recording a cover and then going back in to place the song I'm covering over the audio of the drums. Ho0e i didn't make this question to complicated but i would really appreciate if you could answer this one for me.

[@johndef5075]

Its really easy. You need a source for music and your phone to record. I use an old phone with my wifi to play to drumless tracks on youtube. You plug your music source into the mix in on your drum module. Then a guitar or drum cable from your mono output on drum module into iRig. The iRig then plugs into your headphone jack on phone. The headphone jack then turns into an input becoming a microphone. So your music and drumming are recorded in perfect sync when you record video and play your music source. Sound is pretty good considering how inexpensive it is. I got mine on ebay for 3 dollars. Ive posted a few vids I made with the iRig on youtube. Check them out if you have absolutely nothing better to do😂

[@TheOGNoName]

@@johndef5075 awesome. That's what i was hoping for. I'll definitely check out your stuff . Thanks!

[@Sianpii96]

Do a review on the most expensive electronic hi hat please

[@LeToplache007]

He can't review something he doesn't own lol

[@Sianpii96]

LeToplache007 sorry, my bad

[@bailey12444]

Still waiting for Roland digital hi hats 😅

[@LeToplache007]

"If you buy them now, they will be only 1000$!"

[@brandonc.6034]

@65 Drums Please review the 2Box module, it'll be cool to see your thoughts on it!

[@LeToplache007]

He reviewed this after 2 months of use, he stated that he has never ever even seen a 2Box module in person. He can't review something he hasn't even seen!

[@franklentz4727]

Very worth it when you can get it used for under $300. The new price? Maybe not

[@wout9022]

Got an used for 270 euros, the guy only played it 3 times

[@diyfixguy8999]

No way they should be selling over $500 or $700. Supply and demand and greed at its best. Best to wait for more competition to develop increasing supply and substitutes. econ 101. I'll eat my hat before I'll spend that. Sounds like I got a new song to sing.

[@emilienfalcimaigne8065]

5:25 I do that lmao

[@camilo.venegas]

Are you keeping it on your set or will you switch back to the vh-11?

[@65Drums]

Oh it's staying :) I'm really loving this thing

[@ragnarok75000]

Then you should get the bottom hat off and no more noise. I tried felts, but still noisy. The one piece HH is definitely quieter then any VH-x and accurate as perfect than 2 pieces HH.

[@terrycobb1906]

Way nicer that Alesis junk not worth the money because of its lack of dynamics.

[@jesusislord5052]

First like first comment first view

[@65Drums]

Sup JM :)

[@jesusislord5052]

I'm 10

[@sharkuel]

Wow. The e-drum market is so overpriced. So, a 500$ cymbal shaped proximity sensor, eh? Okay.

[@terrycobb1906]

Sounds like a bag a potato chips stuck in the middle.

[@TheBonsaiRonin]

Only electronic drum nerds would watch video after video of an electronic drum nerd talk about electronic drums then comment about electronic drums... NERDS! haha

[@jamiebillyeald5600]

How else are we meant to see what these things are like? Plus it's just people sharing the opinions mate

[@Grit489]

You're a idiot, go away

[@TheBonsaiRonin]

Have you guys ever heard of self depreciation?

[@TheBonsaiRonin]

It's called self depreciation. I'm am calling myself a nerd. I watch every 65 drum video as soon as they drop. I comment on many of them. I am a fan of Justin and impressed by what he does. All of you are fellow nerds. I apologize you didn't get my tone. I have been accused of having dry humor. Maybe next time I will make my comments more clear. If u are offended ask for clarification so maybe in the future we both don't get our intensions mucked up.

[@jamiebillyeald5600]

@@TheBonsaiRonin sorry it's just usually when people are self-deprecating they something like "that's why I'm one of you" or something like that (especially on comments)

[@kipzimmerman2524]

A Real Feel Hi Hat. This is something completely lacking. "Roland"

[@kipzimmerman2524]

Which is the best electronic series.

[@kipzimmerman2524]

The Hi- Hat is limited to the VH series

[@kipzimmerman2524]

VH-10 is a cheap light destructible thing. Vh-11 Compact durable. "Open splash" Not even close.

[@kipzimmerman2524]

Everything is awesome except. Hi - Hat.

[@kipzimmerman2524]

Justin your Page is awesome! Thank you!