AU REVOIR ASHER • CCTV #40

On today's CCTV we sit down for a conversation we wish we didn't have to have. But, be that as it may, the time has come to announce some recent changes regarding Cow Chop. Following official statements by James, Aleks, and Brett, we get into a wider discussion regarding the formation and scope of the company, the future, and why it's better to slow down and take life easy.

[@zackfloyd8182]

LA was the worst decision they made

[@Powhuh]

Staying with the Creatures would have been better than moving to LA. LA killed Cow Chop

[@That1Fan]

Thank you for the upload

[@na-vn5qy]

did james say 'infilstructure'? but yeah i never actually knew that was why asher left; honestly a bummer of a realization, even now.

[@VividDose]

Repopped up in my feed an the few parts I've skimmed through, reiterates Trevors points strongly in that deleted tweet. No wonder none of them talk to each other anymore. The off camera actions seemed to cause to many problems between everyone. They jumped ship from Creatures understandably, but never had a proper leader. Still think its some of the best content on YT but it makes sense why the House Era was the best, they weren't fed up of each other yet and they could finally do stupid shit without someone keeping them in line.

[@ledzeppelinfan1001]

They really spent half an hour speaking word salad huh

[@anthonybourdain2213]

It was long winded but Brett reeled it in every so often to give a straight answer lol

[@anthonybourdain2213]

16:00 Aleks did not appreciate that comment

[@frozennipplestv5021]

oof was cringe to watch

[@PotatoMaGobinus]

The entire CCTV series is just awkward moments and little jabs between aleks and James

[@natedrake7163]

Patting themselves on the back while they shit on eachother and if it's too intense they shit on Asher and Trevor cuz they aren't there to defend themselves. Honestly sad what happened to James and Aleks these days. Banning anyone who even brings up the past that made them "famous" is honestly so distasteful

[@GlacyLav]

This was honestly a truly evil episode, even if meant for "transparency" an hour long podcast shitting on him. Them suddenly moving from colorado to like literally most expensive place to live in the US hit everyone really hard, I've heard that the move to LA made Asher insanely stressed and depressed as well. And as Trevor stated, working there was terrible, while often also not getting paid. Brett responding to complaints of employees not getting paid and not having enough money to live being "i was doing bad too, you can survive" speaks volumes of his management. Publicly making an hour long video on how much of a bad worker you are, how you're lazy and your work ethic sucks. All for future employers and well, anyone to see is just evil, I totally understand why this video was unlisted on the OG channel, should've been removed completely quite frankly. It was a totally unnecessary video to make.

[@maymayman0]

Yeah its actually really sad. I feel so bad for Asher. Maybe he made mistakes but its impossible to pretend like he wasn't out of his comfort zone. They even acknowledge how he moved out from his parents to fucking LA. They know that has to be an insane change. We aren't to say how much they cut him slack, I mean missing a flight is a pretty big deal. I still can't help but feel for him especially when this is his send-off. I'd be pretty devastated, personally

[@okd00d]

This video was bad when it came out and even more fucked since James left. It's very clear that the warehouse era ruined the channel as Joe, Anna, Trevor, and Asher left presumably for similar reasons. Jakob quit being on camera (which they subtly mention a few times in a derogatory manner) and the quality of content, passion, and ideas dropped off hard around the same time. This video highlights the unseen issues they had as well as marking James as a huge hypocrite. Making the channel a business was the worst thing for cowchop, whether they want to admit it or not. It may have been more profitable and faster to pump out videos, but it killed the thing everyone once had an undying passion for. They had bills and people to pay, so content was made to make money, instead of what some would consider art. In the end they couldn't have fun anymore, and unfortunately they couldn't be friends anymore either.

[@temerson2]

There was no real reason for them to get this deep into the reasons why he was let go. They could have just said Asher wasn't doing the job well enough or wasnt pulling his weight. They treat this like the 3 of them are being the adults addressing the audience, meanwhile this is incredibly unprofessional to air out Asher's dirty laundry, especially considering he didn't say anything about it.

[@gaberthesnipergaming8335]

Still deserved it

[@user-fi9qo8lq3v]

Man, one of aleks mods kept trying to get me to say shit last night to try and ban me after I asked if Asher was coming back out of pure innocence because he said they're all doing a reunion soon. Really don't see the issue if they aired him out like this, makes me want to honestly start trolling them.

[@user-fi9qo8lq3v]

Yeah not gonna be able to really watch his streams the same after watching this

[@temerson2]

Twitch mods are literally insane @@user-fi9qo8lq3v

[@gaberthesnipergaming8335]

@@user-fi9qo8lq3v Yeah, even if they had a business issue I don't see why it would prevent them from at least having a reunion.. He was still part of CowChop for most of its existence.. I also did not like Asher much, but that does not discredit his part in the company and the texture he brought in videos. But don't let streamers' mods hinder your view on the streamer itself, some mods are very weird at times

[@matthewzakrzewski1797]

yeah looking back, its pretty fucked up to fire someone out of professionalism and then turn around and air the dirty laundry onto your podcast, EXTREMELY unprofessional

[@okd00d]

This video aged like milk

[@natedrake7163]

I love how James shits on people still living at home with their parents as if it's their fault for the shitty economy and not making enough money to be able to rent houses back to back when they turn 18. This whole podcast is just a pat on each others back while shitting on the people who did backbone work. Truly this and other testimonies from cowchop workers honestly broke my heart and turned me off of James' content and now he doesn't even care about his past and will ban people from saying "cowchop" or "creatures". He genuinely doesn't care about his KZbin audience and he said he doesn't. He only posts videos to KZbin because he knows that's what built him but all he cares about is Twitch money and shits on his KZbin audience while most of that audience is still keeping him funded on Twitch.

[@Man-Of_War]

It sucks because I just rewatched the creatures road trips and movie reviews and switched to cowchop up until James accident. I mean I watched them when I was younger and it was coming out but honestly the nostalgia glasses are gone and I see how toxic it all was and can’t watch it with a clear head. Everyone hates koots and says he ruined the creatures but I think the form of content was dying. James, aleks, and Brett just tried to force a dying median further. They didn’t want to take accountability and blamed their shitty toxic workplace on being professional ironically

[@silas6349]

@@Man-Of_Warholy shit you nailed it lol

[@dislikebuttonuser4996]

THIS SEEMS MEANER NOW

[@lukefarrell1453]

This hits different after Trevor talked about Cowchop’s work environment…

[@no-replies]

Are you surprised it was hell? They bullied Trevor nonstop on camera

[@beertlont776]

Where can I find him talking about that?

[@meatloaf7835]

@@beertlont776reddit

[@jordanscriven6670]

Is there a clip??

[@beertlont776]

@@jordanscriven6670 I think its a trust me bro situation. Or we are being trolled. I couldn't find anything.

[@PotatoMaGobinus]

This vid is deleted from their channel but its still up on Spotify, was it taken down after what trev said?

[@MadameButterfli]

What did he say?

[@superultrasomethings]

​@@MadameButterfli"ur gay"

[@PotatoMaGobinus]

​@@MadameButterflitrev wasn't happy with how he was treated, rightfully so. I'm way too high rn to say what he said but basically they used him and his anxiety alot for content and exploited it. Like the Trevor stripper vid

[@MadameButterfli]

@@PotatoMaGobinus ooof yikes

[@no-replies]

​@@PotatoMaGobinusI felt like that was all pretty obvious. They fucked him him and filmed it and we all laughed. It

[@svaucyi]

I used to watch cowchop and later noticed trevor had his own channel 'offcanny' but im so lost to what has all happend. Im not sure why cowchop even ended or why trevor dosnt make videos anymore on his channel, what alex is up to, none of it im in the dark and this shit is only making it more confusing

[@InvaderTrond]

basically -they moved to LA after leaving the house and Colorado -aron stayed in Colorado because he didn't want to move -joe left back to Colorado after a couple months to finish college -anna left soon after him because her twin sister was having a kid and she wanted to be closer to her family -trevor left the following year because LA made him depressed and he didn't want to be a content creator or do cow chop forever -asher was fired for apparently being lazy -james had been grooming trevor to replace him since the start and wanted to leave a few times before but aleks convinced him to stay, but he got injured in a skateboard accident and broke his leg the next year and then used that as an excuse to finally leave -because of ad-pocalypse on youtube and a lot of the former crew leaving, aleks and brett decided to end cow chop at the end of 2019 instead of keeping it going like the creatures post-cow chop -aron works at the game studio kootra does -joe got married and had a kid -no clue about anna or asher -trevor has done a bunch of stuff like work on offcanny but not sure what he's doing currently -james still streams daily -aleks moved back to Colorado and doesn't stream as much

[@svaucyi]

@@InvaderTrond never felt so appreciative to a youtube reply in my life

[@GX_Manta]

@@svaucyi one edit, James hasn't streamed in like 4 months, and is basically non-present on twitch, youtube, twitter, etc. He's going through some stuff with Ein, but other than that he's basically on an extended break currently.

[@Testimentsnow]

Gosh i wonder why cow chop fell apart

[@leonardosantuario3346]

Is that sarcasm i sense? ☺️

[@Testimentsnow]

@@leonardosantuario3346 it's the best type of asm

[@okd00d]

It’s ironic that they had these types of conversations and then James hit a breaking point and was the reason it fell apart

[@Testimentsnow]

@@leonardosantuario3346 just a little

[@Testimentsnow]

@@okd00d yeah this is just so incredibly unprofessional

[@The_Critical_Commentor]

In The End CowChop was that just another intern job

[@Bootypopper]

brett was super fucking mean, ngl

[@coleseg]

Yeah, it was pretty unprofessional of the whole group. This wasn’t something they needed to be “transparent” about, assuming Asher never publicly claimed that he was unjustly fired.

[@Bootypopper]

@@coleseg yeah. They could have just said “Asher was not working enough and was not respectful of our hours, so we had to make the decision to fire him.” and that would be transparent to the fans as well as respectful to Asher. Not Brett saying like “he needs his mommy” shit. Iirc Asher was also have a depressive episode back then as well. Doesn’t excuse his lack of work, but jeez have some empathy.

[@randomguy4781]

brett always came across dickish in every cc video

[@skibbitybebop]

I've always thought Brett was a pos, at the time I remember him getting super defensive and nasty at anyone on the subreddit who criticised him in the slightest lmao

[@coconuthead8484]

Soft 😊

[@LynxenX]

Such a cringe CCTV and crazy unprofessional, asher was a dink but the guys made themselves look as unprofessional as him. Looking back now, you could tell cow chop wasn't long for this world (even though they make fun of people saying the channel is dying when they fired asher, because it was actually dying).

[@josephstalin2606]

Tbh you can tell there was tension between Aleks and Asher when they were on videos together, so something tells me that there was also a personal element to this rather than it being from a professional standpoint. I also agree within a year of moving to LA Cow Chop was starting to reduce in views but I wouldn’t say Asher being fired had any significant impact, he was pretty mid anyways people could take him or leave him. The overall energy of the warehouse died out when Trevor left

[@BP-ss4dq]

The dude was more than a dink, he was a lazy, incompetent, inconsiderate racist.

[@ninja_tony]

@@josephstalin2606losing Trevor was such a huge blow to the channel, and it sucks even more knowing now how miserable he was almost the entire time.