Audi e-tron review

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

Күн бұрын

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@fancyIOP
@fancyIOP 6 жыл бұрын
The group CEO of VW is watching, he knows Bjorn will be critically honest.
@p3t3rfunny
@p3t3rfunny 6 жыл бұрын
fancy O hopefully
@fancyIOP
@fancyIOP 6 жыл бұрын
@@Allride_ haha that's crazy, so who makes all these silly decisions??? That's just madness, they are blaming engineers for their own decisions?!😑😐😶😑
@KimHojbergJensen
@KimHojbergJensen 6 жыл бұрын
@@Allride_ They knew everything. Of course, when caught, you know nothing.
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
@@KimHojbergJensen Plausible deniability I guess :-)
@Satialfactory
@Satialfactory 5 жыл бұрын
Why at 39:58 the time says 14:39 24.01 and the battery is at 32% but then at 42:33 the time says 14:40 and the battery is at 60%? How?
@americanhindi
@americanhindi 6 жыл бұрын
Bjørn Nyland is the absolute king of auto reviewers. Nobody else does such an awesome, complete, and honest review. I ❤ Bjørn Nyland
@Satialfactory
@Satialfactory 5 жыл бұрын
Why at 39:58 the time says 14:39 24.01 and the battery is at 32% but then at 42:33 the time says 14:40 and the battery is at 60%? How?
@G.A.Ullrich_1Q84
@G.A.Ullrich_1Q84 5 жыл бұрын
RIGHT!?!?! this guy is my favorite car demo person!!!
@dezz00002
@dezz00002 5 жыл бұрын
@@Satialfactory That's the estimated completion time of charging. Actual time is at the bottom.
@SylverWWA
@SylverWWA 6 жыл бұрын
I do not understand why Audi was so scared about people's reaction. The e-tron has its flops, but it still looks like a pretty decent EV, imo!
@doudoune1067
@doudoune1067 6 жыл бұрын
I'd guess that the software isn't final yet and a few important improvements might be coming
@BrainMcFly
@BrainMcFly 6 жыл бұрын
they've said, its a tesla-killer, but it isnt.
@valtersvasilis
@valtersvasilis 6 жыл бұрын
@@BrainMcFly Yes - it might bee decent car, but it is crappy car for road trips (thirsty, no heater (ok, good charging speed, but be honest - usually u dont get more than 50kw chargers)).
@NLBlaBla999
@NLBlaBla999 6 жыл бұрын
Large auto magazines usually get the scoop or it's under embargo, so that the auto magazines are in the shop with fresh news and every journalist has time to review it.
@sebastiannolte1201
@sebastiannolte1201 6 жыл бұрын
@@BrainMcFly Can you show me a quote, where somebody of Audi says, that it is a Tesla Killer?
@Meiershans
@Meiershans 6 жыл бұрын
unlock the chargecable is like disable a bomb :D
@kam_iko
@kam_iko 6 жыл бұрын
for the rattle, check the passenger door storage space and the passenger seat headrest.
@robhaitch5544
@robhaitch5544 6 жыл бұрын
Or if it could be coming from the back, the unused seatbelts have a habit of resting against hard plastic in Audis I’ve owned
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
@@robhaitch5544 Yep this happens in my Toyota CH-R re seat belts and the hard plastic. That said its not a constant rattle from the seat belt more a clunk clunk. It will be something of nothing :-)
@barryjdwyer
@barryjdwyer 6 жыл бұрын
I have used mid-2000's DVD players with faster, more intuitive menu systems than what Audi ships in their cars. I can't believe they are sticking with the stale, sluggish MMI system in their flagship 2019 EV.
@fabiankunzle1952
@fabiankunzle1952 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's ok that you can't use full regen with only one pedal. Because at over 200kW regen, the regen breaking would be quite hard. This could be dangerous if you slip of the accelerator.
@berndgrabitz
@berndgrabitz 6 жыл бұрын
good point
@fabiankunzle1952
@fabiankunzle1952 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheSteinbitt that's exactly how it is.
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
You could always limit the deacceleration based on gyros... Not that difficult. The Teslas' could probably lock the wheels with regen too.. it is not that difficult to use differenr ways to reduce the possible deacceleration.
@arshamskrenes
@arshamskrenes 6 жыл бұрын
Traction control works with regen. I know because I have a Model S that I drive on ice and it uses as much regen as there is grip (and you can see it feather it). So single pedal, even up to 200 kW would be no problem and definitely desirable for people used to EVs.
@sebschaal
@sebschaal 6 жыл бұрын
What I heard about the regen/brake layout: They tried to focus on drivers of ICE vehicles, not EV drivers. Experienced EV drivers like Bjorn like the one pedal drive and are used to it. But for other people, it is disturbing. So they choose this layout with an almost ICE-like brake pedal use - and the car defines how much regen/disc braking it needs.
@HOFFERN342
@HOFFERN342 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree on the chargeport location. Yes, it should probably be on the side, but in the back not the front. Like a regular petrol tank. The reason is that the charge stations should be on the side of the car instead, like some Tesla Superchargers. Or, they can have them on the front/back with a longer cable so it can reach the side of the cars. Reasoning: It is always safer drive straight out of a parking spot, instead of backing out of it. Most accidents happen when backing out of parking spots.
@MayContainJoe
@MayContainJoe 6 жыл бұрын
The whole "parking at a (slower) charger" thing is going away with EV mass adoption anyway. In a few years the most common use of fast chargers will be picking up the remaining 50 km you need to get home to your wallbox within a few minutes. Having to back into/out of a parking spot is a waste of time then.
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
I agree locating the charge port on the rear means the bonnet / hood does not get in the way and you also do not have to drive so close to the charger. Why is the bonnet so long? is it trying to emulate an ICE car !! EV's do not need large bonnets and it would give better road visibility too with a shorter front end. Personally I don't like the design of a long front end.
@MrPaukann
@MrPaukann 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheSmallRabbit, rear- or midengined cars have long bonnets too. it's not only about the engine.
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrPaukann ev should have the drive motors on the axles not in a box with transmission.
@MrPaukann
@MrPaukann 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheSmallRabbit, why? It limits the size of the motor.
@rukasuara
@rukasuara 6 жыл бұрын
This is a "real world, what you will find living with this car" review. Keep it up!
@fthyme87
@fthyme87 6 жыл бұрын
What I like about the e-tron (and the mercedes eqc) - is that it actually looks like a car and not some crazy ugly concept. Some designers try to make electric cars look like spaceships eventhough the tech is more than 100 years old...
@zamarinen
@zamarinen 4 жыл бұрын
i do agree abit, but however i feel like what your refering to as a "actual car" is just by todays standards. In the future i think cars will be more aerodynamic and maybe abit more spaceyer -looking.
@quicksylverg9923
@quicksylverg9923 6 жыл бұрын
Tesla did a mistake by letting the Etron fill the vacuum the 75X left. The cheapest Model X is now 116.000€ while the Etron is 81.000€ I dont think the high consumption will matter much in the future with the insane charging speed
@dchristo10
@dchristo10 6 жыл бұрын
Unless Tesla is coming with an updated X with 2170 cells and a new interior that will have a 75K price for 100kWh battery and bigger, more expensive 125kWh battery pack.
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
I think there will be a 70-80kWh "standard model" next month with the 2170s, or a battery almost directly from a Model 3.
@Gavyne
@Gavyne 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, Tesla has things up their sleeves. Remember this car isn't available yet, so there's no reason for Tesla to reveal anything until they need to.
@ct1904
@ct1904 6 жыл бұрын
A new model x and s were released. They start at $88,000 and $85,000
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 6 жыл бұрын
+Quicksylver G electrek.co/2019/01/29/tesla-launches-new-cheaper-model-s-x-software-limited-battery-pack/
@bknilssen5164
@bknilssen5164 5 жыл бұрын
At 16:30, be advised e-tron has its own washer for reverse cam, available from MMI......
@stefanwagener
@stefanwagener 6 жыл бұрын
Hm, while I like to have tons of information in the cluster, this cluster looks somewhat cluttered, using 2 different fonts in the cluster, then several different font sizes additionally, and layout has too many different designed areas (widgets).
@anxiousengineer
@anxiousengineer 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, compared to the Tesla, it's really clunky imo.
@matthewsmith8249
@matthewsmith8249 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan Wagener interesting comment. For me UIs with different fonts sizes helps me differentiate and more quickly identify the information I need. What’s more the one large screen in the Tesla is (to me) looking dated and cheap. It’s been around a while now. Time for a refresh?
@cyrildewez5145
@cyrildewez5145 5 жыл бұрын
- Open/close the trunk with the foot, you don't need to dance on one leg, just stand by your leg under the car for 1 second - Close the trunk with the key by maintaining the trunk button on the key until the door is closed (the same with the button in the driver door) - audi don't have autopilot yet, but only assistance, this means the system have an imput on the steering only when your wheel is on the white line (distraction). You can adjust it in the MMI, under "Audi lane assist" : influence on the wheel : late or anticipated (which works better if you want to use it as an autopilot)
@danbeeat
@danbeeat 6 жыл бұрын
21:40 you can park a little more right side, closer to golf, so wire will be more strait. not so diagonal. so you would not touch the car whith cable and do not need to go so close.
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone 6 жыл бұрын
good observation! (applying Pythagoras geometry ;-) )
@RonnyBubke
@RonnyBubke 6 жыл бұрын
The new ionity chargers are located to the side of the car. There the position of the charge port makes more sense.
@christianscheidt57
@christianscheidt57 6 жыл бұрын
Also Fastned
@davithdevries6774
@davithdevries6774 6 жыл бұрын
Since all ICE drivers are used to refueling sideways at petrol stations, it seems to make a lot more sense. Also easier and safer to drive away that way. I expect most fast charge ccs networks to use sideways chargers. However, with AC or medium DC chargers at parking places, it will still be on top of a parking bay.
@gvaley
@gvaley 6 жыл бұрын
Charge ports should always be at the back like on fuel cars. You want to park at the charging station backwards because you never know what idiot will park too close behind you and prevent you from driving out. Parking spaces are tightly packed in Europe.
@CRAZYCR1T1C
@CRAZYCR1T1C 6 жыл бұрын
Clean the cameras?
@moveonmotortrainingenj-p1384
@moveonmotortrainingenj-p1384 6 жыл бұрын
That trunk opening gesture feature is hilarious...
@johnyves1246
@johnyves1246 6 жыл бұрын
An honest attempt by Audi that beats any ICE car . Some pros and cons. Personaly I would have preferred more minimalism and a better consumption meaning less weight and more aerodynamics. Tesla is definitely the standard to beat.
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
Yep more work to do Audi please don't try emulating your high consumption ICE cars :-) when designing EV's think out of the box and ditch that un aerodynamic aggressive looking ugly front grill
@L1GHT119
@L1GHT119 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Seems bloated!
@0tispunkm3y3r
@0tispunkm3y3r 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheSmallRabbit by all accounts I think the designer did not want to make a barn door SUV. But the market study and the consumer desire spoke otherwise ... People want big brick box cars that are naturally un-aerodynamic. But then the same people do not understand about weight and aerodynamics.
@Mymohawkisblue
@Mymohawkisblue 6 жыл бұрын
Mads Randen We don’t know yet. Let Bjørn test it offroad. Bring back the popcorn 😃👍
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
@@0tispunkm3y3r I agree, maybe if manufacturers actually launched designs close to their concept cars that are radical and very practical from both a usage and range perspective that people would actually be won over and they would not be just producing a ICE look alike. I am no Audi fan boy you may have guessed. However this is a particularly weak effort IMO to make a stand out EV. I think VW will do better. But there the same group are they not?
@LukasPraml
@LukasPraml 6 жыл бұрын
closing the back-door should also work with the remote if you keep the button pressed, close enough to the car.
@robhaitch5544
@robhaitch5544 6 жыл бұрын
The foot waving thing is great until it misfires and the door hits you on the head. Been there done that.
@JohnPGriff
@JohnPGriff 5 жыл бұрын
CCS Charge port issue is the same as the I-Pace also on the left side, but as the bonnet is much shorter cable doesn't rest on the car, but you have to get nearly as close as you did to the safety barriers. Also really miss the option to see what the car is getting from the charger. To find out what it is you need to calculate when you sit and charge, so helps the time to pass. I Pace only shows % of charge/hr in the dash and time remaining to 100% SOC. However app can show %/hour or Km/Miles per hour, but as the latter number is completely nuts, assume yet another bug.
@SpeedFlap
@SpeedFlap 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent and revealing Nyland video. I feel I'd know now everything you need to know about the e-tron. Standstill heating only in Aux A/C mode. Laughing out loudly! "Ignition" shutting down frequently by time control, even when sitting at the charger. WTF??? Reboot each time I enter the car? Annoying! Some engineers are still thinking in ICE world, specifying UI designs for slowly adapting petrolhead users. Please Audi, make an alternate pure EV mode UI, leaving all legacy ICE habits behind. The good thing: Most of the flaws presented here are software issues and could be fixed. If Audi will listen carefully.
@ivanc8507
@ivanc8507 6 жыл бұрын
Bjorn. I think it disconnected the auto steer because it says SOS assist cancelled. So I think if you let the system think your dead completely it will come to a full stop on its own with auto steer. But because you gave the system feedback it restricted the self driving auto steer
@TheNiters
@TheNiters 6 жыл бұрын
Yupp, it would be nice to see what happened if he got access to a track where he could actually test this all the way to a halt. I actually think the Audi was about to call emergency services as well.
@Ambroos
@Ambroos 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed. This is standard Audi behaviour, I had the same on my A3. You get a visual warning, then two visual + audio + brake shock / seatbelt pull, then emergency assist which will slow you down in lane (first gently, then strongly with emergency lights). Once you are at a standstill, if your car has SOS call functionality, it'll call emergency services! It's pretty cool.
@MarcVanGiel
@MarcVanGiel 6 жыл бұрын
"Scheisze!" :-D Also, that "rebooting" is typical for Audi.. I hate it!
@magnusbae
@magnusbae 6 жыл бұрын
Talked to a guy working on the Android-powered infotainment system that is coming to Polestar and Volvo. Apparently they were pushing to get boot time to below 1 second. When I talked to him they were at two seconds for a cold boot. That's insane if you compare it with other manufacturers and phone makers.
@krugerdave
@krugerdave 6 жыл бұрын
That charging speed in km/h is all wrong! Charging power (50kW) divided by the consumption (0.324kWh/km) comes out to about 154km/h, so clearly the car isn't actually basing the speed on real consumption. It's probably based on WLTP, since it works out to 238Wh/km with the indicated speed of 210km/h. Same result on the 84kW charger.
@NeverFollows
@NeverFollows 6 жыл бұрын
46:50 I think that the strip red light in US will need to have a small separation in the middle to not be considered as a breaking stop light.
@mike_9978
@mike_9978 6 жыл бұрын
Best Review of the E-tron. Well done . If I get an EV, here's a strong canditate.
@meomarte
@meomarte 6 жыл бұрын
While I understand why people compare this to the Teslas, I don´t believe folks at Audi care much about that. Teslas have been designed to make people interested in EVs by making them high performance and attractive. Audi has no incentive to try and do the same. This seems to be made to satisfy the average Audi-drivers EV needs. A better comparison might be other Audis.
@enricio
@enricio 6 жыл бұрын
I adore the way you present the issues on this car and previous cars. You mention in a modest way that the engineers haven't given quite a bunch of things much thought. I watched most of your films. This makes it quite easy to say which car delivers value for money and which doesn't. Keep on presenting the products the way you do.
@raphi25895
@raphi25895 6 жыл бұрын
at 21:27 you can just park more on the right then the length of the charging cable will fit better and at 47:49 i think you have to hold the buttom to close the backdoor because the a4 does it like this
@lenoohpuls
@lenoohpuls 6 жыл бұрын
Full of schmutz!! 48:32 :-D
@MayContainJoe
@MayContainJoe 6 жыл бұрын
I find neither the harder to read dial emulation nor the numerical display options very useful. I would like to see flight instrumentation (numbers on a moving ruler) become the norm in glass cockpit cars as well. This way you can quickly gauge speed, acceleration and power at a glance, without having to do calculations in your head.
@radiobar1634
@radiobar1634 6 жыл бұрын
32 kwh/100km when driving 110 is a joke, Audi. But not a good one.
@radiobar1634
@radiobar1634 6 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ericsson Well, just about everyone ? Even a Model X, which is bigger than the etron, consumes about 25KWh/100Km at 110 Km/h in the winter.
@MayContainJoe
@MayContainJoe 6 жыл бұрын
A Model X is also more expensive.
@MayContainJoe
@MayContainJoe 6 жыл бұрын
More expensive than etron, at least in my market.
@lorenzmuller4000
@lorenzmuller4000 6 жыл бұрын
radiobar Not true at all. In the same weather conditions the Model X consumes about 31 kWh/100km at 110kmh. And the cheapest version of the Model X costs about 20k euros more than the e-Tron (Actually you can’t even buy that version anymore so the gap is even bigger).
@DK-vt4jc
@DK-vt4jc 6 жыл бұрын
I assume the fact that Bjorn is driving in S has something (at least in part) to do with that high consumption...
@Krumelur
@Krumelur 6 жыл бұрын
What a mess of displays and buttons.
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
Yes but its most likely the same crew who designed the ICE Audi's that also have IMO poor design around ergonomics re gear / NAV controls.
@ingerasulffs
@ingerasulffs 6 жыл бұрын
This came to my mind about efforts from traditional carmakers on these interiors: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGe5hZipobZgZrM
@krugerdave
@krugerdave 6 жыл бұрын
Meh, I dig it. Tesla is too minimalist for my taste.
@cuebner
@cuebner 6 жыл бұрын
The start stop button alone... Hilarious.. At least it doesn't say "engine" as in the e-golf. But I guess their 55+ customers need something familiar.
@kriss2005
@kriss2005 6 жыл бұрын
The UI is just bad. Nothing changed from their fossils. Why do they have 3 screens and a gazillion sub-menus? Only reasons to buy this car: it's an EV, it has quiet interior and it's an Audi, if that's mean something for some shallow people.
@torbenbrenden
@torbenbrenden 6 жыл бұрын
Solid effort by Audi. 50/50 weight distribution makes this the least, relatively speaking, nose heavy Audi aside from the R8?
@K0nst4nt1n96
@K0nst4nt1n96 6 жыл бұрын
I think the Avants are also pretty good. The RS5 even lets the back out.
@Root6532
@Root6532 6 жыл бұрын
Solid effort? hahaha what are you smoking?
@torbenbrenden
@torbenbrenden 6 жыл бұрын
@@Root6532 Yes, and nothing.
@torbenbrenden
@torbenbrenden 6 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 cars in this class tend to be.
@DavidDavid-nv1xz
@DavidDavid-nv1xz 5 жыл бұрын
One correction Mr. Nyland; tailgate will close with the remote. You just have to hold the button for a few seconds. I just learned from my dealership after years of Audi ownership. Best intimate details in a car review that I have seen.
@mortensandberg1924
@mortensandberg1924 6 жыл бұрын
Audi's tip shift gear has the same function as the car you test. Tip forward are higher gears, tip backwards are lower gears. One tip backwards changes from normal to sports function.
@7777777veritas
@7777777veritas 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you turn American every time you get excited for whatever reason.
@thierryvt
@thierryvt 6 жыл бұрын
All the audi's I've owned (3 so far) have had rattles. First one had a weird rattle in the B-pillar next to my ear (which was the most aggravating one...), second one had a rattle underneath the passenger seat, and the third one (my current one) has a weird rattling going on with the vents. The ford fiesta I had didn't have any rattles, neither did the opel astra i drove for a while. Just bad luck maybe?
@dizzyikea
@dizzyikea 6 жыл бұрын
You should try the A180 in Lincolnshire, UK. It is the noisiest road in the UK at 92db. I once collected a friend from Newcastle and drove him down to my house in a hired Toyota aygo as my car was in for repairs. When we left the Tarmac M180 and hit the ribbed concrete A180 he paniced and thought something terrible had happend he quite literary came off his seat an inch or so because he thought we were in trouble and the car had malfunctioned or a disaster was intimate. Nope it was just the road surface change. To it's credit though it's been the same surface since opening in 1983 so not bad for 36 years.
@therandomtester9561
@therandomtester9561 6 жыл бұрын
R is forward and D back because it should be as close to the PRNDL as possible (selection in old automatic fossils that most people are used to). It's the same in Leaf and Prius, probably other cars as well, so I don't think it's a good idea to be "smart" and change it now. Rather than thinking do I want the car to go forward or back, you can think do I want to be pushed into the seat or hit my head on the steeringwheel ;)
@mikloskiszely514
@mikloskiszely514 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, great car but also great consumption... too great for a 95 kWh battery.
@TheBigVizard
@TheBigVizard 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Young It’s a big and heavy car with unperfect aerodynamic. Big consumption is to be expected. On the other hand Tesla X is very aerodynamic but also very ugly if you ask me. :/
@5LeTT
@5LeTT 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigVizard not the most wonderfull car the model x, but I think looks way better than the audi
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 6 жыл бұрын
It is just a compliance car, it's an electrified Q8, so it isn't optimal. Only after the Taycan and VW's modular MEB platform is ready, we will see real electric cars from the VW group. 2019 will be interesting.
@bigsean628
@bigsean628 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheBigVizard who wants an EV looking exactly like an ICE? these traditional brands are living in the past.
@holgerpramhaas3622
@holgerpramhaas3622 5 жыл бұрын
@Jonathan Young hmm… Land Cruiser is a OFFROAD Car :D - not an SUV (shitty term invented by Marketing guys ;) )
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone 6 жыл бұрын
Can the foot-triggered closing(!) of the trunk be disabled in the settings menu? Because it happens that if you arrange some stuff in your trunk and stand close to it, the sensor registers your feet and the trunk door starts closing and bumps against your head or your back and also makes your jacket "schmutzig" at that occasion... argh annoying That's why I like the "foot control" active only for the opening function and disable it for the closing function. The latest BMWs have this option in the settings menu. Does Audi have it as well?
@realulli
@realulli 6 жыл бұрын
4:10: the logic for the gear selector is the same as with any fossil Audi (as well as my 25 years old Mercedes): push all the way forward is P, one step back is R, one further is N, one further is D, and the last one(s) is Sports in Audi and lock to lower gears in my Merc. (I think BMW has the same logic)
@CastorTroy666
@CastorTroy666 4 жыл бұрын
How about adaptive window vipers? Are they worth it? I heard the were heated, but only the part where the fluid comes out. If the rest still freezes i doubt if I will order that equipment
@nickvanderwesthuizen2886
@nickvanderwesthuizen2886 5 жыл бұрын
Two things. And two more things. First thing with two things. You said that the seat belt pulled you back to try and wake you. That’s cool, but the most important thing is that it tightens expecting a collision. That’s a very important thing. The last thing is push and hold the remote and a sound should beep and the rear lid will close. That is so that you can observe while it’s doing so to prevent injury Incase someone gets in the way. You can also do that with the door trunk release button. At least in the US market.
@ableac
@ableac 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not on the Europe model.
@superobett
@superobett 6 жыл бұрын
IONITY Charging speed test???
@mozzimozz4074
@mozzimozz4074 6 жыл бұрын
Hulhuk Anfel they need the water cooled cables first :0
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
Probably still limited on the chargers
@superobett
@superobett 6 жыл бұрын
rkan2 limited on 70? 80? Or 150?
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
I dunno…
@Ambroos
@Ambroos 6 жыл бұрын
The e-tron has been tested at FastNed chargers in NL and gets really nice high charging rates (125kW if not mistaken) until around 80%.
@andrew1joe
@andrew1joe 6 жыл бұрын
OMG...that charging speed even at high SoC ❤️
@SpeedFlap
@SpeedFlap 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that seems a huge benefit. You will tend to charge the battery full more frequently, unlike a Tesla where you stop at 70-80% to get a good average long distance travel speed. So having a better usability for 20% of the batt should compensate a little for the higher consumption. In the end, e-tron practical distance between charge stops could be similiar to Tesla S.
@SpeedFlap
@SpeedFlap 6 жыл бұрын
@@rogerstarkey5390 well I have probably been too much into Tesla tech. So I am entrapped to compare early. Time will tell.
@Root6532
@Root6532 6 жыл бұрын
OMG no dedicated supercharging stations and I'm on an 80K 'Tesla killer' car in a queue behind a Nissan Leaf. Seems legit lol
@Geek2dcore
@Geek2dcore 6 жыл бұрын
Tires seem to be winter tires. Would that have some impact on range too? I hear ~10% reduction with winter tires.
@JohnPGriff
@JohnPGriff 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding Quicksilver G comment regarding pricing of Model X. Seems the Tesla USA website is now offering an entry level Model X with an option (8000 USD) to increase range by 8% and a Performance model including the additional range but "Ludicrous" mode is now a 20 000 USD option. There are similar options for the Model S. 2 models, Model S and Model S Performance. So looks like the Base model replaces the old 75D but with greater range. So if you can get the price of the old 75D would be interesting to see how the New base model prices compare with the discontinued 75D models. TEK.NO had an article last week and had a theory that the base model had the 100kW battery with a SW limit as per old 60 and 70 models. Tesla Norge wouldn't comment on when the base models would be available to order.
@henkom
@henkom 6 жыл бұрын
@4:14 Do we have comments on that sound of the gearshifter?
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 5 жыл бұрын
They should put the charge port under the front hood. (bonnet). Then let you close the hood and have it plugged in and locked securely. Just a cable sticking out. Make a cable friendly edge of the hood.
@imho7250
@imho7250 6 жыл бұрын
The small delay in acceleration may be to preload the drive unit before giving full torque, since there is no damper like a clutch pressure plate or torque converter gives. Every time someone in a Tesla mashes the accelerator it hammers the splines on the rotor like a 2000 pound sledgehammer. Then the milder soft start settings are for people who want it to behave like their ICE with Automatic transmission.
@imho7250
@imho7250 6 жыл бұрын
Here’s the video showing the rotor spline wear: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2jHdJiIopprnNEm44s
@TechGuyCharlie
@TechGuyCharlie 6 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this, Bjorn! Thank you for the honest and awesome video. Your honesty and the way this review has been done is why I would watch your review rather than so-called 'professionals'
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 6 жыл бұрын
Good honest review. There's a very nice car in there although it has some issues. The Autosteer warning system seems almost ok. An autosteer system that disengages, even at lower speeds, is a problem though. Leaving the car in motion is not good enough. The system needs to break to a halt before it disengages. The charging plug disengage issue could have floored the average user and left them stuck. It was only due to BN's resourceful thinking that got him out of trouble. I suspect the sideways strain on the plug also contributed, which was down to poor chargepoint placement on the car and the short cable on the charger. Perhaps Audi could provide an extension for short charge cable stands as it is their car with the issue. The menu system seems to lack an intuitive nature. For example, twice the charging display turned itself off while BN was still in the car. Why? What was the huge saving? And he had to turn the car back on to get it back. By all means turn off the display when there is nobody in the driver's seat. And get rid of the silly grille. It only adds to the car's inefficiency due to poorer aerodynamics. If anything, in general, a lack of grille would show that a car is electric [with the exception of rear engined FFVs], without the need for crazy EV styling cues, which on concept cars, are way too radical at present, in my opinion. I like the super quiet nature of the car and the fact that it is very nice to drive. It should be, of course.
@danielbenson6741
@danielbenson6741 6 жыл бұрын
You said you were interested in a car replica, there is channel on you tube called "Phantom Replica" and they make the same cars for affordable prices.
@milanradusinov3484
@milanradusinov3484 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of a replica car because preformance never be the same
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 6 жыл бұрын
@@danielbenson6741 Did I ???
@davithdevries6774
@davithdevries6774 6 жыл бұрын
@@omelvold yes, Bjorn interrupted the emergency stop it clearly stated it on the screen as he took over on the steering wheel. Then right after, he let go again, then it was confused and eventually disengaged at slow speed. The slowing down was on its way to 0 inside the tunnel, would have stopped there. Have read about it already in the Abu Dhabi experiences. Would make 0 sense for Audi to be able to do all that and then not slow down to complete stop, it was seconds away from it.
@beernutsonline
@beernutsonline 5 жыл бұрын
Silly grille? Well, the 'bare ass' design of the newer EV's are probably the single most hated design feature, and most (I mean probably 99%) would prefer a grille or other ornament in the front. Car buyers are pretty conservative, and ornaments and grille elements have none or little influence on the total aerodynamics. Things that protrude on the roof/sides or tire resistance is more a concern.
@preemadrid
@preemadrid 3 жыл бұрын
the rattling is the passenger seat buckle. bring the buckle stop up where it wont bang against the plastic side
@RuneVenes
@RuneVenes 6 жыл бұрын
No banana/cucumber/sausage pinch test on lift gate?
@TheNick70nick
@TheNick70nick 6 жыл бұрын
The Artificial delay from several EVs is to protect the DU.
@filip3148
@filip3148 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the UI/UX so damn horrible?? Just make it normal, like in a Model 3 for gods sake. Everybody has a smartphone nowadays, just make it like a smartphone....
@simboodamn
@simboodamn 6 жыл бұрын
4:28 I guess it's more to get the petrol Audi user to feel more at ease in this EV. In my '19 Q5, you go up for Reverse, then down for Neutral, then down for Drive, down again for Sport mode. I understand the Audi decision on this.
@brantwedel
@brantwedel 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Cablegate!!
@bakotako
@bakotako 6 жыл бұрын
Bjorn, dont take this personally. I was the person asking you to test out fast charging capacity versus slow charging capacity. There are many EV channels out there and tbh most do not have a remedial understanding of battery technology and that is fine some people just like to drive and test. But, I feel you can really teach people some technology behind the batteries and EVs. I think this is a great opportunity versus ICE because to know an ICE engine you need years and years of experience, but for EV and batteries its not as hard. Anyways, a battery fast charged has an inherent less capacity than a battery slow trickled charge at one amp to 100%. So, what does this mean for EV users? It means if you are going on a long, long drive it is good to do a slow charge starting out so you can get the most range. And, when you reach your destination and before heading back do a slow charge to 100% as well (ie use your home slow charger overnight as much as possible versus fast charging). Also, when you guys talk about coldgate. Coldgate is inherent in all naked battery cells. Lithium ion batteries is a chemical reaction. Temperature is critical. Try charging your phone outside in 0C or below. Tell me what happens. Anyways, I think it would be great if you can teach folks a little about the technology behind coldgate, fast charging, safe charging, discharging a battery but you need to learn this first and its not that hard compared to ICE. Great channel btw just my two cents. I am an avid ebiker who build DYI high voltage ebikes. I know a little some some about batteries but not enough. But, imo, many EV channels out there just do not know the technology behind it and passing that naivety to their viewers is not helping the EV evolution.
@bakotako
@bakotako 6 жыл бұрын
Also, this is a great opportunity for you when the Model 3 reaches Europe. Recall that the Model 3 uses the 2170 cells versus other Tesla and EVs that uses the 18650 cells. There are even bigger lithium cells out there. But, the 2170 cell has a huge advantage over other 18650 cells. This needs to be mentioned and understood fully to truly grasp how good the model 3 is versus other EVs. I doubt other EV review channels will even talk much about this. But, if you understood the differences and talk briefly about it. I think it will make your channel so much more informative. Anywho, I will hope to race you one day in my future 400V ebike =)
@uPerigoso
@uPerigoso 6 жыл бұрын
hi. you didn't show the phone app, how is that compared with tesla phone app? Also at minute 36:00 there's a thing in the windshield that shows the time in the upper left corner of your footage, what is that?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 6 жыл бұрын
+Sergio Nogueira It's a press car.
@rovialdokonda22
@rovialdokonda22 5 жыл бұрын
Bjorn i am a long life fan of you since you had 12k subscribers even I dont comment very much nowadays I watch every video and i like every content of yours . I see other youtubers but none are on your level. Congrats brother you deserve every bit of success on your channel, we know that you work damn hard and you love what you do. Keep up the energy !
@RemoteZero
@RemoteZero 6 жыл бұрын
Noticed this had black headliner and aluminum trim. When I build it in the U.S. you can only get wood trim and light gray headliner. Black headliner looks way Better IMO, and it would be nice if you can choose aluminum, wood or carbon fiber for trim.
@The0nlySplash
@The0nlySplash 6 жыл бұрын
They didn't get you the cameramirrors?
@markush.5669
@markush.5669 6 жыл бұрын
Minute 19: Does the golf have a longer cable? Maybe you should drive a bit more to the right side?
@kevin6984
@kevin6984 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison of consumption between the efficiency setting and the performance setting
@ElectricSwede
@ElectricSwede 5 жыл бұрын
At 44:40 you actually see that you have at least 30kW regen. Check the gage just above the one you are watching. Isn’t that power usage up to 60kW and regen up to 30kW?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
No, that gage is kWh/100 km. kWh/100 km != kW
@murdoch9106
@murdoch9106 6 жыл бұрын
One way to avoid these issues would be to have extra cable extensions for those places where it might be a bit badly thought out. Not optimal but atleast you wont risk damage your vehicle. These things will get better in time. And that rattle, I'm sure Audi would fix that if you owned the car and went to a dealer. Its a new model so things like this do happen. Atleast the panels seem to line up properly... ;) I'd get the KIA eNiro tho! Its my favorite of the EV's right now I think.
@robsmith1a
@robsmith1a 6 жыл бұрын
Impressive that you still get a good charge rate all the way to full. Even my Zoe drops off from 22kw past 80%.
@Satialfactory
@Satialfactory 5 жыл бұрын
Bjørn, quick question... Why at 39:58 the time says 14:39 24.01 and the battery is at 32% but then at 42:33 the time says 14:40 and the battery is at 60%? How?
@treborg777
@treborg777 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, I hope you enjoyed it. The E-tron looks way too Audi - slow infotainment system, too many screens/touches/buttons to push to get things done. Having to mess with the steering wheel toggles to get regen is stupid and overly complicated. The main driver display is both way too complicated and lacking in clear information about vehicle status (e.g., the tiny power meter display). The charger disconnect issue you experienced is just horrendous - good thing you're an experienced EV driver. Two questions: did the speedometer error come from wrong (winter?) size tires, or is this a big design flaw? And, will Audi do OTA updates like Tesla or charge $$$$$ to do them at a dealership like they do for the nav system?
@TheSmallRabbit
@TheSmallRabbit 6 жыл бұрын
I guess the later ......go to the dealer and get ripped off. Its just an ugly big box with little effort supporting a new approach. At least the iPace was a new design. This is just a Diesel with an Electric motor. Out of the two I would choose a Diesel it will be cheaper go further and built just as good or better. For the EV price tag I would have expected something standout different and really really good. This comes up short on too many fronts. Not on my wish list.
@dapec
@dapec 6 жыл бұрын
What you could have done: position the car more to the right, relative to the point where the cable exits the charger. So you don't lose length to cornering the cable around the front fender. Furthermore: I don't like the charging port position either.
@robertgordon5956
@robertgordon5956 5 жыл бұрын
The interior rattle he noticed was probably the driver side seat belt metal latch vibrating against the side pillar. I get it in my S5. Easy to fix by sliding the buckle latch up on the belt.
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone 6 жыл бұрын
Does e-tron consume even more than i-pace?
@chashulme
@chashulme 6 жыл бұрын
I assume it has no available front trunk storage. Weird that it wasn't mentioned, or at least I didn't hear it. I did notice the lack of space up front for a split second while you were messing with the charge cable release.
@sebastiannolte1201
@sebastiannolte1201 6 жыл бұрын
It has a frunk, but the funk has a cover.
@MaxPlaid
@MaxPlaid 6 жыл бұрын
User interface is messy - too may screens and buttons. What's the point of the big gear change thing?
@joergenbuch
@joergenbuch 6 жыл бұрын
An excellent review! In the next development iterations, Audi should try to lower the consumption to match the competition! Otherwise, a superb station car tailored for the European market with good access to the boot and lots of cargo space. You forgot to mention that it is capable of pulling heavy trailers.
@davithdevries6774
@davithdevries6774 6 жыл бұрын
It was a little different than a usual Bjorn review. I missed showing back seats and front passenger/driver seat comfort and adjustment options (which are very good in Audi). A little to much time spent to a charge port bug that probably is fixed at the time ppl get their cars. He also missed the extra boot space underneath the double floor.
@joergenbuch
@joergenbuch 6 жыл бұрын
@@omelvold What can I say? That's why I own stock in both Tesla and the Volkswagen Group! ;-)
@Hastix
@Hastix 6 жыл бұрын
The regen is like in our Renault Zoe, you also have to push the break pedal to get the maximum regen.
@morosis82
@morosis82 5 жыл бұрын
There are apps for sound levels, you could pull one up to show relatively how quiet the cabin is.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Jenkinson Watch the video where I measure noise.
@morosis82
@morosis82 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland haha, must have missed it. Thanks.
@JehanKateli
@JehanKateli 6 жыл бұрын
What happened to the embargo?
@halixol
@halixol 6 жыл бұрын
...aaand the taillight test in the dark?
@joelastname1839
@joelastname1839 5 жыл бұрын
What about traction with instant torque? Does it not lead to spinning tires, and less grip on the road? Seems like it could be dangerous.
@steveh4367
@steveh4367 5 жыл бұрын
So what is the rest of the car like, as in the seat comfort, rear seats or boot space
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXupfHyOoN2cidE
@rom8976
@rom8976 6 жыл бұрын
red or yellow? fail! booom😂
@88Henkie88
@88Henkie88 5 жыл бұрын
i saw you talking about a bug when releasing the charge port. i think it is just an safty lock because when the car is still drawing power it makes a big spark when removing the plug specially with so much amps floating
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
It's not pulling power. The charging session ended. And the power is cut.
@88Henkie88
@88Henkie88 5 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland weird i know that many electric vehicles that using the auxillary ac using that energy so that they don't drain the battery to keep the maximum range. every kw is holy in these cars. i thought audi used this also then i heard or read it wrong somewhere. this is more a point that i would introduce as factory
@hiroobidoo
@hiroobidoo 6 жыл бұрын
15:00 Limited Regen: Could it be that it's like that because the car detects snow? Due to security reasons?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 6 жыл бұрын
+Ytak no
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have headlight washers?
@ableac
@ableac 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@newsoft75
@newsoft75 6 жыл бұрын
14:49 There's a new Nimber king in town. ;)
@PappiH
@PappiH 6 жыл бұрын
Is it so thirsty though? Model X in -5°C and 115km/h better?
@djaj66
@djaj66 5 жыл бұрын
Bjørn if you had to choose between the Jag and the Audi, which one would you pick and why?
@masontrang
@masontrang 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the Tesla shifter the same? down for drive and up for reverse?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
+masontrang That's down/up vs backwards/forward.
@krstnphil
@krstnphil 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to keep the heater on for more than 30 minutes, you just have to program a timer every 30 minutes after :D
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 5 жыл бұрын
Do any of these cars have CD players?
@Kniffel101
@Kniffel101 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, Bjørn found a bug in the car! =P I *_really_* appreciate your honesty throughout the review! This shows that you're not paid by Audi in any way. ^^
@oykkh29
@oykkh29 6 жыл бұрын
Can u have the whole map in the virtual cockpit?.
@dplummer35
@dplummer35 6 жыл бұрын
Bjorn, what was happening with that first charging session. Was it a bug or was it something to do with the climate control, either way who's going to pay this kind of money to have to be embarrassed like that?
@LennyBarre
@LennyBarre 5 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought when he could not release the plug was that he let the aux A/C on. Seems to me that it's not a bug but a feature, to avoid to drain the battery with the aux A/C if one forget to turn it off and leave the car there for some time before taking the road again... but somehow, the car should warn the driver that he cannot unplug the charging cable if the A/C is on.
@lenlaskowski7374
@lenlaskowski7374 6 жыл бұрын
What is that rattle?
@nafnaf0
@nafnaf0 5 жыл бұрын
35:59 - "recap. it's better than the Hyundai and Kia systems because those will just disengage the autosteer system but still stay with the same speed and then you just crash and die somewhere" - ROFL
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