Audi e-tron used buyer's guide & review - Is this half-price bargain a stellar buy? / Electrifying

[@logicpro8382]

Just got an E-Tron 55 Lunch Edition fully loaded with all options/spec with all options for under £38k with no deposit! Sold my Kia EV6 to get it, getting back my hefty deposit for the Kia and moving to the 20k miles driven 2020 E-tron 55, which is a huge step up from the Kia EV6 in terms of quality and spec/speed and it is bigger of course and 4 wheel drive. The E-tron was £89k new in 2020!!! lost 4% battery capacity on testing but still seeing 220 miles in UK Cold spring, probs 180/200 miles winter. Who needs Kia EV6 300 miles range (actually 255 miles in REAL life unless you drive at 40mph lol) EV used is great! we also bough a used e-208 GT spec for £21k with 2.5k miles on it! I recently seen an i3 FOR UNDER £9K!!! Not sure how they are getting 161 miles in this video! I drive fast at 40-70mph to work 5 days a week and still see great range. It will charge at a 150kw charger in 29 mins 5-99%. 7KW at home is 12 hours BTW. The camera mirrors are amazing! you get used to them in about 1-2 days amazing.

[@jenny80myles]

I don't mind the smaller battery. I don't drive that much so taking the car to do a charge while I do my weekly shopping is perfect. It charges so fast that the shopping may take longer. Also, I know it's not the most efficient car but it still beats paying for premium unleaded.

[@jezw1138]

Loving this series of pre-loved EV videos.

[@rigel1632]

These used vehicles vids are absolutely the best 👍

[@Electrifyingcom]

Thank you! 👍

[@drphilgarner]

These will be a great buy in 12 months, not now though. Yes they are juicy but very very good charging curve makes these one of the best long range EVs this side of a Taycan.

[@conrado800]

Very accurate prediction. One year later and they’re for sale under 41k

[@VickersDoorter]

@@conrado800 And a year further on (Nov 2023), even better. £23k for a 70 plate with just 21k miles - becoming an absolute steal. Just picked it up and it came with a healthy amount of extras - dread to think how much the first and only owner lost in 3 years.

[@huwsparky175303]

​@@VickersDoorterhow are you getting on with it? Which model did you get?

[@jamesdean2706]

i like these second hand videos.

[@Lifeofward151]

I’m two years later but looking at a 2019. Original MSRP 80k USD on sale for 32k USD with approx 52k miles. I work from home, drive predominately for errands. Have a back up petrol car. Still haven’t decided.

[@naumanzakir8005]

Stick with your petrol!

[@oneville1321]

It is worth mentioning at this moment in time, Audi are not supporting 2019 and early 2020 models for any of their digital services such as charge status, function on demand and pre-conditioning via the My Audi app. This is widely known globally on various forums. So maybe a second hand e-tron older than mid to late 2020 is not worth getting otherwise you may find yourself stranded because the app didnt tell you that public charger stopped charging or in winter, your battery is not efficient because you could not pre-condition the car.

[@jtiberius9117]

this video got me to look at preowned etrons, found a "used" one with 2900 miles with 15k off the sticker as well, can't beat that!!

[@bp4896]

Lease only for me, who wants to be out of warranty with one of these?

[@dangrass]

good piece. I predict that the Porsche Taycan will soon become the all-time depreciation champ, rendering the Audi's precipitous decline in value hardly noticeable by comparison.

[@KeliK1]

Superb video, sound quality and content. I subscribed!

[@johnminshall242]

It doesn’t bode well for value retention for those who’ve bought new and shelled out £70-80k! And with such relatively poor range, I wouldn’t choose this over an i-PACE. Great review though… e-tron’s certainly better bought used.

[@akubel33t]

Most people lease these new for a year or 2 before getting rid, and not pay the full price

[@HelloMyFriend_]

Never buy new

[@choddo]

@@akubel33t Yeah but the lease companies aren’t stupid and learn fast. You are still paying for the depreciation.

[@snakeeyes9246]

The I-Pace is on my shortlist of electric SUVs as is the E-tron. I like them both, but I'm probably going to have to wait for a 2021 or 2022 model to depreciate since I am aiming to buy before the end of 2024.

[@logicpro8382]

I seen. lot of loss in my past EV6 GT Line from 2021, fallen a lot in value. I the E-tron 55 Launch edition over the I-pace, was under £38k with £0 deposit with more tech that I-pace for the price. Looked better in my eyes. I needed a bigger car and I-pace was £4k deposit to bring it down to what Audi were offering. Getting the Kia EV6 was a waste of time, looks great, but is cheap inside and had many issues.

[@tokyozip]

So many recalls! Great car to not own out of warranty.

[@samteknic]

Please please do one of these fantastic guides for used Jaguar iPaces

[@_TrueDesire_]

i heard you should steer away from iPace due to lack of protection underneath, there's a report saying that it cost €3500 to repair the battery due to a hole that made it's way in, in some weird manner i'm guessing.

[@hellmekun]

the only downside for me is the efficiency, 200 miles out 95kWh is just hideous..

[@choddo]

It’s bizarre. I can’t understand how they made it so bad.

[@jonpetter8921]

It has the best charging curve on any EV to make that up....

[@Jajalaatmaar]

@@choddo It's heavy, it's an SUV and unaerodynamic.

[@choddo]

@@Jajalaatmaar weight isn’t too much of an issue once you’re rolling but yeah the Cd is probably pretty high.

[@Tijgert]

@@choddo Nope, the cd is 0.27 with virtual mirrors.

[@examinerian]

You had me at "look into my eyes"... Beats the usual 'LikeSubscribeHitNotificationBell" that some channels chuck around with the speed of T&Cs on a radio ad! 😁 Audi alloys are easy to kerb - a friend with a TT RS, and has just had her wheels refurbished for the second time, thankfully she took out the special alloy insurance...

[@rocket3man]

Nothing to do with the driving then!

[@examinerian]

@@rocket3man Probably, but we don't go there... 😁 Although, having rubber-band tyres with zero anti-kerbing protective edges built into them doesn't help - I reckon the rims would get damaged by nothing bigger than a hard stare.

[@minibx6659]

That’s the case with almost every car in existence

[@examinerian]

@@minibx6659 I get your point. However, some alloy designs have spokes that curve out to the hub, so catch a kerb. Some tyres have anti-kerbing design so protect the rims (Goodyear Eagle F1'A, for example). SUVs generally have deeper tyre sidewalls, although fashion over function buyers might want 22" diamond-cut rims on a Range Rover Sport, (then made worse shod with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, rather than something a bit less track-focussed). A family crossover doesn't need huge alloys. So, it's not most cars, but some manufacturers do seem to combine OEM wheel and tyre designs that result in more kerb damage. My friends with Audi and Porsche often pay for alloy kerbing insurance, the ones with Mazda, Merc, Land/Range Rover - even one who just sold his previous gen BMW Z4 - never bother, or it doesn't occur to them because it's not really an issue. Mind you, give any car to different drivers and the amount of casual damage will change for each.

[@yatsuk]

Looks like it’s more simple to buy Q5 diesel and use it without headache

[@MrKlawUK]

I love the preowned series of videos. However i this case I think I’d prefer a Q4 etron. Almost makes the 55/50 obsolete. You want simple and family friendly? Q4. Want fast and cruisy- GT

[@mepyhunter3747]

Thanks for highlighting the short range in the 50. There is a used 8 month old for 20% off the list price. Guess the owner is tired of the short range.

[@tomattime]

Hypnotic........ A terrific pre loved series. 👏🏽

[@SoomNou]

My car brakes started jerking after 8300miles, nearly crashed on motorway, Audi told disc have bended due to heating effects without pre warning, Audi refused responsibility, blamed my driving style, landed up paying 1700 for disc and brakes getting replaced, anyone else got similar experience?

[@gregj3320]

My 2021 Audi e-tron with 56,000 miles lost a lot of range suddenly November 2023. A 100% charge range of only 171 miles. An 80% charge range of 156 miles. This never went back up either. The temperature never went below 50° outside. I always charge at 80% unless I'm taking a trip And I do this every night at home. I rarely use a fast charger unless I'm taking a trip and need to get home. I spoke to Audi about this and they said the battery health was fine, battery degradation was normal and that there were no error codes so the battery was in good health. This is ridiculous to me. Not to mention that a $75,000 vehicle is now only worth $32,000 for trade in value. And now the e-tron has a battery recall due to a fire risk. Before the battery issues, the car was one of my favorites. And I was all on board the electric vehicle evolution. Not so much now.

[@Mancozeb100]

Door mirrors ! They’re door mirrors !! Great review 👍🏻 Surprised by the poor range on those. Good to know.

[@VickersDoorter]

2:17 Woodcote Road, between South Stoke and Woodcote, Oxfordshire.

[@daveiwhittle]

I love my etron laynch range wuth goodies (2019) , particlarly the virtual mirrors :)

[@daveiwhittle]

I have a Vorsprung and aalso love the virtual mirrors, one streamed up the other day but a look around and I found out how to fix it in 5 mins :)

[@iam5085]

Been eyeing these now since these are a lot cheaper, but I will propably end up with XC60 phev, Ford Kuga phev or such - cheaper batteries.

[@therealgaragegirls]

We just bought a used one of these this Wednesday. Love it!!! But it did come with the larger wheels. They were just too gorgeous to pay up. 😅

[@samkong2741]

About used EVs bargain hunt, basically all European luxury brands are half off after sold brand new.

[@paullacey2999]

Depreciation might be an issue but a bigger one will be when the batteries are worn out....These cars will be a headache later on when maybe even car breakers will struggle what to do with them......

[@SusieSmart]

The batteries will last hundreds of thousands of miles. At the moment there’s only 2 Audi Q7’s for sale on Auto Trader with over 200,000 miles on them. This equates to just 0.2% of all the Q7’s on sale. In fact the number of vehicles for sale with over 200,000 miles on the clock on Auto Trader only accounts for ~0.1% so I don’t really think your concern is overly valid 🤷‍♂️

[@paullacey2999]

@@SusieSmart I think with 200,000 miles on it you could be buying a car on its last legs,and by the time your selling to the bottom of the food chain as it were,on autotrader,nobody is going to pay main dealer prices to repair/upkeep it,so I think we will have a problem in future,the entire car including the ev components will be past it....Perhaps thats why main dealers wont retail 200,000 mile cars?Think my concerns are valid.Especially your quoted 0.2 of cars will only increase.......

[@SusieSmart]

@@paullacey2999 I mean there’s a hell of a lot less to go wrong with an EV so I doubt it’ll be “on its last legs”. The cells in the BMW i3 have been shown to be able to retain 80% of their original capacity after 4,600 cycles thanks to excellent thermal management. The Audi has a fantastic thermal management system (I believe it has 2 cooling circuits) so if we assume it will “last” the same 4,600 cycles it means the battery will only reach 80% at around 920,000 miles. So I think after 200,000 miles the battery will be perfectly fine, degraded slightly yes, but certainly not unusable. The data from Tesla owners (not Tesla themselves) shows the average degradation at 250,000 miles to be between 8 and 10% most of which occurred during the first ~150,000 miles before slowing down. Lexus offer a 10 year / 625,000 mile warranty on the battery in the UX, think they’d offer that if they weren’t confident about the longevity of their batteries (who’s cooling systems are nowhere near as advanced as the systems used in BMW’s and Audi’s)?

[@entropy5431]

The batteries are literally the last thing to worry about on an EV, most have warranties for 100,000 miles which is a higher mileage than most petrol cars ever get to before being scrapped. (Possible exception is early Nissan leaf.)

[@AIBETTSYIA75]

Get one for £25k now...tempted but cba with charging

[@copenhagen-wk3kt]

There is a facelifted e-tron coming out now with much larger battery. Not good news for the depreciation if you buy a used one.

[@JohnAdams-kc8wx]

Hi - do you know when it is coming out ?

[@jsouto77]

Thats the problem with these cars. They dont need a bigger, heavier battery. There are similar sized cars out there with less battery and more range. And being audi, the tech will grow old very quickly.

[@Alessandro---]

Great video as usual by Nicky. Two questions: - where do you find those “bargains”, because I’m looking for a depreciated PHEV or EV and there’s nothing cheap on AutoTrader. - my lady wants to know where did you get those 70s trousers 👖

[@rollamichael]

New to EVs, my current car is a 2005 s4 avant. Nothing has gotten me excited until now with the e-tron. Looking at a 2023 prestige S sportback, original msrp 103k usd and now 62k usd, less than 3k miles. Should I say yes?

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Sticking with our i3s

[@_TrueDesire_]

driving the ordinary i3 till i can get a 800V car the next time i upgrade :)

[@OnlineMD]

Hello from the USA. I have heard through the grapevine that a significantly better battery and *much* better range eTron is to come later this fall. The current range is very inadequate. I would not buy one even at 75% off! Besides, the non-Tesla EV supercharging infrastructure here in the USA is pretty pathetically poor....🙄😒😢

[@_TrueDesire_]

by the end of the year Tesla will open up it's supercharging network

[@dangr3957]

I bought my 2016 facelift Tesla Model S 70 with free supercharger capability for £26K. After 118k miles it range is still 220 miles on motorway 70 m/h. With these etrons a road trip is unimaginable unless you want to spend the whole day at the services using the slow 50kwh dc chargers.

[@logicpro8382]

I do regular UK driving up and down from Scotland to England and never have a issue, 200+ miles from the E-Tron 55, and changes in 28mins from 5-99% at 150kw changers which are EVERYWHERE these days. Never seen a 50KW charger for a while now in na service station. Maybe old shell and BP.

[@lucus999999999]

Had this for 13 mths drive. 37000km , Agree with 99% of this tube clip opinions on the e tron

[@MercedesCLALover2026]

One on autotrader is going for 47,124 pounds!!

[@Petelmrg]

An electron-guzzling Chelsea tractor; that range will just about cope with the school run for a week...

[@TheFallenAngel0001]

Owned 2, both ended up with extremely expensive repairs, while one was under 60k km....

[@mariush573]

Can you give more details?

[@TheFallenAngel0001]

@@mariush573 Sure: I will try: first one, with under 60k, bough from dealer as brand new, driven reasonably, got rear engine fault (the one with the coolant leakage), that caused some metal parts entering the gearbox and blowing that up as well (at least what the dealer explained). Happened a month ago, they replaced both parts in warranty but there is still some weird noise, and the dealer recommended we sell it quick cuz there might be more dmg. The second one, we got it second had at 100 000 km. I am not sure how exactly to describe the fault part, but the part number in the invoice is 4ke915253l (Control unit for battery junction box). The second major think they change alongside the control unit is with part number 93031900. Total repair cost 6k Euro at dealer. The only reasonable explanation we got is the problem was possibly due to high heat (that day was 35+ Dereece Celsius, and fast charging station problem) Both broke in the same month... Second one took a month to fix, first one about 1-2 weeks. p.s. the model is great in terms of looks inside and out, drives well, has the most amazing ride quality (I had every single allroad before that, and currently own 2016 one) but those repairs and faults are....hard to bear.

[@TheFallenAngel0001]

@@mariush573 I am sorry for the delay... i responded several days ago but for some reason my comment is not here. Both cars were 2019 models 55. So first E-tron - purchased from dealer at under 1000 km (show car). Driven normally 100 km highway drives and city drives ect. 3 months before warranty expires(about 2 months from now) some strange noise appears. Reasons: fault rear motor that somehow damaged the gearbox as well. Total repair cost if not under warranty - they quoted something about 15 to 20 k euro.... Seecond E-tron - Bought at about 100k km. In a sunny day (about 38 degrease Celsius) error msg pops up "electrical system fault". Repair invoice said those 2 part numbers were fucked, and changing them required some extra small parts (part. #93031900 and #4KE915253L). Total repair cost at dealer 6k euro and 4 weeks wait, cuz the second part took a lot to arrive. Coundnt use other repairs shops because battery still has warranty... Cheers, we selling both cars now.

[@TheFallenAngel0001]

​@@mariush573 i tried to reply twice so far and my comment keeps disappearing....

[@paull3179]

It is a great bargain for a great car except if you keep it for many years and the battery goes you have to scrap it as the battery could cost 50k cdn. I saw an etron gt battery listed at a dealer for $36500US.

[@paull3179]

excluding installation and other parts.

[@simonlloyd100]

Prefer my id3 Tour 77kwh....the additional 100 miles is key

[@maidavalecricketclubtv7545]

The range on this is shocking- I love the car but thats the only reason, I didn't buy it. You can pick an ex-showroom one for £45k. Better to go for new Q4 Etron (310 miles range), £50k.

[@logicpro8382]

Good luck getting an Q4 E-Tron 50 black Edition that does 310 miles range, I had one, gave it back after 4 months, try 230-250 real world in warmer weather , got the EV6 GT Line, it was better, but ended up the same, poor range at high speed in cold UK winter, sold it last month, made my money back and got an E-Tron 55 Launch Edition with all options for under £38k no deposit, low milage. A used Q4 E-Tron was £45k+ with less spec/smaller/similar range and slower with £5k deposit.... No thanks. It'll lose your deposit in under 12 months. New Q4 E-Tron 50 with more range is over £60k!!!!! that's over £700 per month with £4-5k in deposit. E-tron 55 I got , under 550 per month.

[@sursaas]

​@@logicpro8382is this purchase from audi approved used? Or any other platforms?

[@VickersDoorter]

0:24 Fairly certain that's Little Stoke Manor farm...

[@philipc239]

Nice! But Ioniq 5 ✌😊

[@markgodson366]

cheapest available today is £41,750

[@beatles4sale2007]

List price 62K and cheapest new is 54K. I think they need a new calculator

[@logicpro8382]

Cheaper now.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Interesting and informative review - thank you. But, as others have said, too - OH... MY... GOODNESS... only 200 miles from a 95kWh battery...????????? That is horrendous, make no mistake...! But, credit where credit is due - and, if you don't mind me saying, I think you were a tad 'harsh' on the Audi on the charging front - the way the battery accepts its max 150kWh charging speed all the way up to around 80% full before eventually decreasing is astonishing... It's the EV equivalent of an ICE car's "splash & dash" and I feel this kind of charging curve will absolutely be the 'goal' for all EV manufacturers as new models come on stream. So, thumbs up on the review... Thumbs up on Audi's battery charging technology... A whole-hearted thumbs DOWN, though, for pretty much everything else to do with this leviathan of an electron-devouring SUV...

[@minibx6659]

Love the charging speed, At 97% soc, I’m still getting 67kw, the charging curve is insane , my stops are mostly 20 minutes on a long journey, if I stop for lunch the car finishes way before I’m done eating , it’s a superb car.

[@FFVoyager]

I'd rather drive 'that' than an Audi e-go.

[@samteknic]

“Look into my eyes..” No, no, noooooo 😵‍💫🤤🤤🥰

[@thrash123ful]

Nice car But those jeans on the other hand are less to be desired.

[@sheldonv8]

Best buy a Model X for 50% better range, 7 seats and neck breaking performance then. Tesla's come with indicators as well, unlike Audis.

[@jonpetter8921]

So you can just wonder why E tron outsell the Model X last year...To pricey with poor build quality, poor ride comfort, too noisy. Neck breaking in a SUV ? not good....

[@choddo]

Tried a Model X for a couple of days. Really didn’t like it though the supercharger network is amazing.

[@DaraM73]

Id Still buy an ID

[@markbainton]

200 miles my ioniq does that at nowhere near the cost. 161 miles the mg does that. No way I'd spend that money

[@helipeek2736]

I’ll wait until the hydrogen route is sorted thanks. Far more elegant solution technology wise, if you ask me.

[@fluffybull3935]

Too big for me I want a small car

[@dmomcilovic9185]

Efficiency and range is abysmal

[@FlyingFun.]

So expensive to run and still expensive to buy. I'll wait a bit longer whilst I ride my ebike lol.

[@dronedad5784]

I have a etron. It’s 2.5p a mile..

[@FlyingFun.]

@@dronedad5784 what are you paying per kw of electricity? Roughly speaking its gonna use 0.5 kw per mile , we pay 15pence per kw so that would be 7.5 pence per mile which is admittedly still cheaper than our diesel civic but not by a huge amount, tyres wearing out fast due to weight was the other expense, But the biggest worry for me would be depreciation and battery degradation, but I guess that's the price of having luxury car.

[@dronedad5784]

@@FlyingFun. im with octopus and charge it between 1230-4.30 and its 5p per KW.. i tend to charge about 30kw a day otherwise a longer charge costs me more

[@FlyingFun.]

@@dronedad5784 thanks , that's cheap then, 60 miles for £1.50.

[@dronedad5784]

@@FlyingFun. trick is to do short charges and keep it at 80% so you maximise the night time electricity rate. i did 340miles last week and used 150kw. 120 of those were at 5p a kw

[@naumanzakir8005]

It sounds like we are going through times when e cars are outdoing each other on range and ‘features’ like our smart phones BUT Unfortunately the similarities donot end here! How quickly these E cars become out dated just like smart phones is frightening considering they cost £50,000/- to £100,00/- ! And Depriciate like nothing else! In 3 yrs if it depriciate from £100, 000 to £50,000/- you’d be lucky £16K per year loss! Meaning the car loses £1400 per month! And not to mention after less than 8-9 yrs they might be scrapped with all the precious metals used! Do we have un limited supply of these metals? I donot think so! Whats the answers Maybe long lasting japanese hybrids sounds better. They last 200,000 plus miles Mercs and volvos of yesterday years used to last that long but not any more!

[@jong3055]

3 and a half days to charge.. you need to halve that on a 3 pin plug, and obviously a lot less on a home charger - are you trying to put people off?

[@Electrifyingcom]

We don't try and put people off, but want to be realistic. We came back from a test drive in an e-tron 55 with 5% charge remaining, plugged in with a 3-pin granny charger and the e-tron's computer said it would take 80 hours to charge.

[@Tesla-Info]

@@Electrifyingcom That’s because when you first plug a car in with ancillary services are still running and it’s still consuming power (ie the computers are still fired up). The 3 pin plug charges at 10a, 230v, 2.3kwh, even allowing for losses that’s 2kwh or 48kwh per day. A full charge from empty is less than 2 days. Please advise people knowledgeably

[@choddo]

@@Tesla-Info unless the 3pin charging was set to throttle for some reason.

[@thumper1747]

@@Tesla-Infowell said. I charge (top up) our i3S twice a week using a 13amp socket as my wife drives it to work and back four days a week and we use it over our three day weekends. Only fast charge when we drive further than 75 miles away from home and by how much is determined by what we need to get home.

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

a second-hand ev that only does 200 miles from a huge battery for only £57K....what a bargain - is this a joke?

[@benm6862]

Ok here me out, tk maxx power…

[@fellmr1]

"étron" in French means pile of s**t… 😂😂😂

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Nah, I’d still rather have a Tesla.

[@jonpetter8921]

Which Tesla, Model X ? You can just wonder why it failed miserably in Europe.....

[@Tijgert]

Charging in 3,5 days? Lies. Effectively 86KWh out of 95KWh battery charge available divided by 3,8KWh charging (240v at 16 Amps) is 23 hours at best... and that is if the battery is down to zero, which it never is, and you charge to 100%, which you never do. What idiots wrote this script? Edit: and the virtual mirrors take getting used to, but the picture is sharp and vivid. Clearly a 'review' with little to no actual experience of value. Infuriating.

[@ianplummer]

"Half price bargains", err, I think you should have paid more attention at school. £17k off a £73k is not half price in my book, I make it a point of never subscribing to content providers who use click bait. A big thumbs down from me.

[@supersurfer1]

These are junk

[@maxmuster6123]

Only people who like vintage cars will love this thing. inefficent, ugliest infotainment ever. not worth a penny: my Audi E-tron has a faulty drive train (front engine) AND two damaged battery modules. components in total to be replaced around 5k but the total repair costs will be over 26k!!!!!! totally insane! 36 months old, below 56k miles. rubbish at all

[@Musketeer009]

Nothing on Earth is going to get me to buy a polished turd!

[@UnderWarranty]

E - Tron looks as boring as the model 3

[@Mr11ESSE111]

etron is one of the biggest garbage vehicles ever!!! shitty range , high price, batteries will (mostly) die at around 200000km ,expensive parts !! this vehicle are basically for rich asses which willl go on shopping around the city and some nearby picnic

[@MrSunnyBhoy]

I thought flares when out of fashion in the 70s... 🤣 This is an inefficient big barge, ugly looking, I hardly see how this is better than a normal SUV. With the amount of energy it will need and the size it takes up on the road...