Audi Etron vs Lexus UX300e: Shootout | Fifth Gear

[@Danificationization]

Jason the audi is rwd not 4wd

[@MarkVinewood]

The views from Anglesey on a non-foggy day are absolutely breathtaking. Probably one of the nicest racetracks in terms of geographical location.

[@Hell-Hound1]

Why do Fifth Gear think that the only way to test a car is around a race track? A pointless review and lazy journalism to boot.🤔🤨

[@knowntobehonest]

Where did you get the idea Top Gear thinks that? But tbh do you want a car that shuts itself down after a mile?

[@Hell-Hound1]

@@knowntobehonest Cars break, regardless of powertrain. Although I'm sure no one thought the Lexus would be the weak link.

[@TheSpudlyMcgudly]

@@Hell-Hound1 But that's the point, it didn't break. Lexus couldn't diagnose a fault, but it kept shutting down. Agree, to draw a conclusion on that alone is ludicrous, but still isn't very good.

[@Insertnamehere3000]

Racing around a track doesn’t just mean racing round the track. You have taken it to literally. Brake fade on the track suggests an emergency stop wouldn’t be as effective. Aggressive driving on the track generates heat. If the car can’t do a lap on a track how is it meant to live in a warm climate like Australia. I think he is 100% right with his recommendation. That Lexus can’t fix the problem or even know what it is suggests their diagnostic skills are poor and this will translate into the service at the dealership.

[@Hell-Hound1]

@@Insertnamehere3000 That's not the point that I was making. It's the lazy journalism that's the problem. No one buys an ev suv for it track prowess. Comfort, practicality and economy/range are what's important. A real on road review would be much more useful to more people. Just because you've got a racing driver and a race track, doesn't mean that you always have to use them. As far as emergency stops are concerned you tend to do them only once, so no problems with brake fade. UK spec cars are what they are, and I'm sure Australian spec cars are fit for purpose down under. Fifth Gear and Top Gear etc. have had cars fail on them many times in the past, it doesn't mean that they're all rubbish. It's just life, that's all.

[@Olliebobalong]

The Lexus only has an air cooled battery, the Audi has active battery cooling using a proper radiator and AC unit. That explains the weight disadvantage and how the you could cane the Audi round the lap and not with the Lexus. Doesn’t body well for battery degradation for the Lexus because excessive heat is the number 1 cause if battery wear.

[@rayaanshaikh5830]

I doubt it really makes a massive difference at all. Lexus have been using batteries in their cars since 2004. The T&Cs of the warranty clearly state it covers all functional defects of the battery and capacity degradation below 70 percent for 10 years and realistically who hoons an EV around a track

[@Olliebobalong]

@@rayaanshaikh5830 Lexus have been using batteries since 2004, but those would have been nickel metal hydride, not lithium ion, and nothing like the capacity an EV needs. Thermal management is fundamentally important for the health of a battery, when charging them and using their power capacity. It’s exactly why the Lexus couldn’t do this test.

[@rayaanshaikh5830]

@@Olliebobalong yes different batteries. But the reality is that non of these vehicles would ever be driven like that so it really doesn't matter

[@Olliebobalong]

@@rayaanshaikh5830 it does, because taking this on a motorway at 70mph or more will be more demanding on the battery pack. Toyota aren’t interested in making EVs, they are laid bare several times. The E tron is built on a bespoke EV platform and is so good, that other manufacturers are looking to adopt it. Elon musk himself has said that he considers Volkswagen the only real alternative to Tesla in the EV space, so Audi making a better EV than Lexus shouldn’t be a surprise.

[@rayaanshaikh5830]

@@Olliebobalong Like I said, what they're doing on the test has no resemblance to reality. Repeated accelerating and braking will causemuch more strain on any car compared to steady speed at 70mph and its being done on a vehicle not designed to do that. Toyota Motors has got a full line up of EVs coming out within the next few years anyway which are all bespoke platforms. The RZ is just one example. At the end of the day, any modern Lexus is more reliable than any Audi so I genuinely wouldnt be worried about it whatsoever

[@edinreviews]

I’ve got a Q4 40 S-Line and I’d agree with Jason’s comments. Seats are supportive and comfortable, brakes are good. It’s great for cruising and brisk driving but when you really push it you can feel the weight (over 2 tons) and it will push into understeer. Very safe, very Audi. Best to use it as a spacious cruiser 👍🏻

[@RevLexus]

Great video, even as a Lexus fan the UX300e isn't their best attempt. However the RZ is coming and the Audi has the VAG group behind it (& many electric models already)

[@madched]

Wow I didn't see that coming

[@knowntobehonest]

......slowly😀

[@stanthemafia]

Lexus didn’t cover themselves in glory here…

[@reitsmaassociates]

What a shame the toyota couldn’t do a full lap … blast!

[@111danish111]

What wrist watch is he wearing ?

[@YourMajestyTheKing]

The UX in the video is probably entry trim

[@ESHIELDS]

BRING BACK TIFF

[@knowntobehonest]

CAPLOCKS ON!

[@YourMajestyTheKing]

Always love the UX design.

[@martsvan1]

A new car which has a fail safe but overheats in the rain and bad weather conditions at least no high speed chasing when nicked

[@mikadavies660]

Early Tesla had the same issues with battery overheating. Tesla corrected this with better battery temperature management. Whilst this might NOT have been the issue. My guess would be that it is that. As Toyota are so new to EV's and I can't see them "learning from Tesla". Learning from their own mistakes would be logical.

[@vyrnmn]

this is such a pointless shootout

[@patrickmike2524]

Is that the first DNF?

[@uYahbonaEmbo]

Lexus what happened i was rooting for you , what a let down.

[@connorbutters8479]

mabye the Lexus kept bricking itself because it wasn't built to raced around a track?

[@MrGMawson2438]

I'm sure they have more Lexus UX300e's about

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

So how does a government make money from all these new EV's when they're losing billions in fuel duties and road tax? _"Hmmm... Let me think."_ Ah! I know. Whack up the price of electricity. Yes... It'll affect households and their domestic supplies. But look at all the money they're getting back from EV cars now. And the fact that householders, regardless of having any sort of car or not, are helping out to claw back all that lost revenue.

[@dantoine0]

Electric charging bill will be just as expensive as gasoline in the next 10 years.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

@@dantoine0 Yup. People will get suckered in to go green and then "Wham!" It'll be like diesel was when that became popular.

[@meandi1994]

I always buy Audi, because they grow with age..But why would you wear an ugly cap?

[@lawrencegriffor3767]

First of all they are driving the base UX, and complaining about small multi media display which is stupid secondly if they wanted more support in the sit why not pick the f sport. I have a problem with today's journalist they want all vehicles to handle like a sports car it's wrong 🤨, every car has it's own purpose

[@stephenlaw9827]

Wouldn't buy either

[@fahadiqbal19]

Oops.

[@malcolmc5964]

Is Jason going bald or getting old driving with a hat on or just pretentious?

[@Danificationization]

Careful that's sexual harassment now

[@midlifeparty]

Hard top golf carts... biggest automotive scam in the history of the automobile.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

Love the analogy. _"Hard top golf carts."_ 8-))... But you're not wrong, when you think about it ;-))...

[@midlifeparty]

@@thezanzibarbarian5729 if we achieve a power source theoretically operating like a high yield capacitor that we could just stop off at a fuel station, pay for a reload and be on our way in 3 mins, electric cars would be fun. But this tech here is rushed and as usual most of the failures blurred out by all the gimmicks. Why use a dry motor to power a vehicle with so many driving conditions to consider yet the cooling is crap? Whatever happened to oil and coolant with radiators? Also the temperature coefficients of the conductors. I'm not impressed.

[@gabrielcaramet3238]

That Lexus is just awfull