Audi Q5 Quattro vs Subaru XV S-AWD - 4x4 diagonal test on rollers

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Audi Q5 Quattro 2.0 TDI S-tronic vs Subaru XV Crosstrek S-AWD 2.0 CVT
Part 2 of this battle - test on 3 rollers:
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[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Check part 2 of battle between Audi Q5 Quattro and Subaru XV S-AWD - test on 3 rollers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH_Uhmtpm9OqqdU

[@wandante]

Where can I buy the roller like in this video? What is it called ? Wheel rollers?

[@thejeffinvade]

I got a Q5 and my wife has a crosstrek

[@mindmmindh391]

Subaru AWD seems to respond and transfer torque to the wheel with grip faster by 2x.

[@Gchang54]

TheEryk03 lol even though the proof is right infront you

[@Gchang54]

TheEryk03 ok go check the other 100 videos that do the same tests

[@HGChannel2020]

it seems like every subaru dominates this kind of challenges, hell, you always see wrxs towing people out of snow

[@STI_awd]

theres plenty of videos to prove that subaru has the best awd out there

[@bigredranga69]

Except no torque was transferred.....subaru XV does not have an active differential..... Go show what happens in a Pooobaru when you get sideways and try and countersteer...*hits object* Now try the same in an Audi with Quattro...I'll wait for the impact vids LOL

[@mannyechaluce3814]

My rear wheel drive corolla does not have this problem, every time I see rollers on the road I just swerve around them :D

[@jeremiahlf]

Manny Echaluce Exactly what corolla is rear wheel drive? Only seen front wheel drive ever.

[@Siphodemos]

jeremiahlf 70's Corollas were rear wheel drive

[@Antilaakeri]

It better be ae86!

[@Antilaakeri]

Robert Blackford who did u say it to

[@ricotheunprofessional]

jeremiahlf old corollas r all rwd or awd for the wagons a lot of then built those cars for races

[@fiorehd]

Subaru’s best AWD in the world!

[@selvync.9531]

That's why I love my Crosstrek.

[@hanx9970]

Seems Subaru has faster reaction and the perfect balance. Audi definitely has better interior, fresh look and of course higher price tag. Subaru owners have unique taste; they focus on the real performance with reasonable price; true driver's choice.

[@Recon527]

Han Xiao It’s like that with pretty much every vehicle. All about personal preference.

[@yootoobecansoogmiballs8735]

"Higher price tag" you mean like triple or quadruple price tag ;D and for the old ones you wont get any parts = youre fucked! subaru = buy subaru parts or just use any no name "copy" product and youre fine

[@Vlican]

not sure why it's got such a high % of dislikes, but this is a great informative video. the diagonal test stresses the importance of sending enough torque to the rear wheels, as well as torque to either left or right sides.

[@justinbeamon6624]

Looks like both cars do good enough job to get you out of most situations. Reaction times are different but nonetheless both are successful.

[@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm4641]

I have an Audi and I can’t wait to get rid of it. The thing is a money pit. Everything keeps breaking and every repair costs a fortune.

[@ozzless]

Yep, that can work on the rollers. But on an icy hill, where the situation changes every smallest part of a second while climbing up, this can be critical

[@dion24B]

SUBARU 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ludovicovongraf2100]

Subaru reacts much faster than Audi to the lack of grip of any wheel, and in all tests.

[@owngun]

Ludovico von Graf its because this type of quattro regulates the grip mechanically, but there are tons of different quattro types

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+einsfuenfneun Type of Quattro doesn't matter much here, this test is more about traction control than awd system itself.

[@andriilebid8137]

Ludovico von Graf щ

[@0xsergy]

Subaru is more effective in these tests because they use abs braking to the spinning wheels, the audi doesn't have that and only has the mechanical lsd which isn't very effective for these tests. The subaru has an open diff which you can see highlighted with both wheels on one side spinning. 0:44 They both spin a ton until the abs braking slows them to transfer the torque to the other side. Still, I would've thought the audi LSD would be more effective. Maybe under real driving conditions(ie just snow, rain, ice it has enough torque that it doesn't matter?).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+0xsergy Both cars have open diffs and use brakes, they have no LSD.

[@brianperalta3520]

Subaru has the best AWD system u can definitely tell the difference

[@temmschild]

Lmao ok

[@Kacpa2]

TBH Audi's quattro is as good as Subaru's, it's all the fake and shitty toggle on slip systems in FWD Crossovers and Suvs that lie about having actualy all wheel drive. Everyone else beyond Subaru, Audi, BMW and hardcore offroading vehicles makes these fake shitty systems that are FWD until you are already sliding but not always. Its both safer and more fun with actual 4WD/AWD than these glorified FWD cars prentedning to be AWD. Even if it works correctly they make cars unpredictable and prone to loosing control just because how sudden torque steer followed by brief toggle of rear drive can be.

[@emilarpi345]

@@Kacpa2 Subarus have no torque steering due to their intrinsic symmetrical layout design.

[@frankkemp]

​@@Kacpa2😂😂who hurt you?

[@Kacpa2]

@@emilarpi345 Which is specificly why its so predictible and natural in its behaviour especially with VDC completely turned off(bypass withba switch or pull the fuse, or just older subarus that had neither that or traction control). Torsen based full time allwheel drive systems toom I think only Nissans attessa, toyotas gt-four awd and mitsubishis awd is comparable to that or better in some ways. As those are both permanent and active(edit: modern toyota gr four setup is proactive with a clutch pack, old gtfour and its derivations on early Rav4 is just mechanically spread out by center viscous differential).

[@dearmaria4654]

Been driving a Subaru for weeks now and still discovering what it can do, I'm glad I came across videos like this, gives me a lot of confidence in my car. It's a good car. ❤️

[@Nicole19989]

They're absolutely brilliant, & so safe & dependable.

[@mihavodnik1146]

That’s why I ❤️my Subaru 😃

[@julaihaidris7212]

Subaru is the shiniest of all AWDs because boxer+symmetry

[@cop2506]

0:50 you can actually see subaru systematically stop the right wheels and send power to the left!

[@motorhead_jt21]

Two best AWD systems in my opinion. I love my SH-AWD but these two are in another league

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Scott Watkins Indeed, soon I will test these two cars on 3 rollers. So far Suzuki is dark horse of roller tests.

[@DhavalMomaya]

duszaniespokojna whaddya mean Suzuki being the dark horse? which car in particular?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Dhaval Momaya I mean that in such tests Suzuki is competitive with the best, what was not obvious. And I mean cars with All Grip Select system.

[@Incountry]

Haldex systems, Torsion systems (VAG group use both in 4motion and Quattro) and Subaru’s own... you pick.

[@Kacpa2]

All 3 are good, and infinetly better than whole sea of useless and pitiful pseudo-"AWD" systems everyone else uses. Half of which dont work at all and are there for people to buy false security and others work badly toggling only you're already in a slide combined with torque steer and sudden engamegement of these, which can only make it worse if driver dont know how to drive that well to begin with. Only proper choices are Torsen, Halex or Symmetrical-AWD from Subie well and ofc hardcore 4x4 drivetrains in pure offroad cars, but that is obvious. Well and Suzuki still makes decent AWD systems, but they seem to go more to simple copycat pseudo-AWD in their newest crossovers, so its just a left over of their good selves from 2000s and prior.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Kacpa2 Check how proactive awd systems work: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJC2dKiiZ5psnsU That's completely different story than 15-20 years ago.

[@Incountry]

Kacpa2 Suzuki have very good 4wd systems, as long as it’s from their Jeep style/SUV vehicles, used off road and they’ll shame vehicles twice their price (off the shelf) lightweight, nibble and just reliable considering the over technical garbage of some others....

[@ecastaneda1988]

Two of the best awd systems there are. I'm surprised the Subaru appeared to react quicker to wheel slip.

[@Recon527]

Eddie Castaneda I’m not surprised about the speed of the reaction for Subaru. They built the car around the system and Subaru’s don’t have transfer cases either.

[@noclu4u384]

I'm not it's a waaayyy better vehicle . Subi's average 450k-700k miles before needing major maintenance

[@yanni1398]

@@noclu4u384 That doesn’t apply to their boosted engines lol

[@locoraindrops7653]

@@yanni1398 depends. Once you start modding them that all goes out of the window. Also depends on who did the mods and whether the parts that can be impacted were upgraded as well.

[@onehundredpicks5531]

@@yanni1398 i have a friend with over 300k miles on a wrx no head gaskets either. Oil every 5k

[@billlang64]

I previously owned a Subaru Legacy Estate and now have an Audi A6 Avant. Both are very capable cars on snow or slippery conditions. Very little to choose between them so down to personal preference.

[@12skits63]

Both are sooo good

[@RKmndo]

I don't care which is best AWD. Both are better than 2WD. Neither offer 4Low. The cheap Subi is what I'd get. If somebody else slides into my parked car at 15-20MPH and takes off, I'd rather have a cheaper repair/replacement. The Subie also has a decent/improving aftermarket for offroad goodies, like winchmounts, diff-lockers, suspension lifts, skids, etc. It's probably a less stressful vehicle to own, and capable of legal fun.

[@brandonpeters9987]

The two very best all wheel drive systems in my opinion

[@Joshua-qw1nx]

I love both systems

[@gooscooby5988]

Have owned both Audi and Subaru. The Audi is nicer inside, but for a 4x4 the Subaru is the better value and better quality car

[@joshfoley8862]

Its not just about traction on rollers. they both use quite different systems. check fuel range on the two models. awd does not need to be engaged fully at all times. in reality, both these cars will not see a lot of conditions like this.

[@cruisingprimate1072]

I was very surprised how capable the XV was trying out a trail used by the JEEP guys.

[@zero2sixty244]

The Subaru is extremely capable especially with X Mode but I personally prefer mechanical locking/torque vectoring AWD opposed to the eLSD braking stuff but it’s very capable and I’ve driven it in severe mud with the poor stock tires and it really hasn’t had any issue, also prefer that you could fully disable VDC on them.

[@441meatloaf]

I think the issue with Crosstrek and CVT is that its good, but when you need that torque because its driven by belt type system there is slippage vs mechanical where there isn't. So CVT can be weak in that regard when you eagerly need the tranny to provide that torque and power but it doesn't want to.

[@RKmndo]

​@@441meatloaf Subaru CVTs don't use a belt. They use a chain. Some other mfrs use a planetary gearset.

[@441meatloaf]

@@RKmndo earlier versions of subaru used belts but then revised to chains due to slippage problems in earlier models.

[@RKmndo]

@@441meatloaf I have a 1st-gen Crosstrek. It uses a chain. The Justy is the earliest Subie I know of with a CVT.

[@RKmndo]

Both offer some of the best AWD systems around. These did better than my Jeep YJ would have done with stock open diffs in 4WD. With just some cheap lunchbox lockers though, a YJ would ace this. A rear lunchbox locker is now available for Subarus. Front and rear LSDs too.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Subaru my next car for long term ownership hopefully. Don’t waste your money on bling fashion statement cars.

[@rickybonn]

I suspect this was the CVT Crosstrek. I wonder if the manual would do as well with a viscous coupling center diff?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Richard Bonnell Yes, this was CVT, info is in description :) Manual would be slower for sure with front (or rear) wheels on rollers. I will try to get some new Subaru with manual gearbox to check it.

[@0117ization]

Symmetrical awd is hands down the best of the best. I love my 13 forester xt in the snow. Although i am pretty inpressed with my xc90 running falken wildpeak a/t in the deep snow as well.

[@all-x-under8712]

do you have a possibility to test 4x4 on 3 rollers?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Olexandr Knysz Not yet, but very soon (in May) all tests will be repeated with 3 rollers.

[@all-x-under8712]

i've subscribed to your channel and i'm looking forvard to watching the rollers tests. keep filming! it's interesting to compare ;)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Olexandr Knysz Thank you, my tests are rather fun than serious testing, however I do it objectively, unlike many other tests made by bribees ;)

[@all-x-under8712]

that is the reason why people like what you do ;) keep up!

[@adrianalvarado1206]

I want see all this vehicles AWD vrs Subaru in hill climbing and mud

[@bikergamersoldierspy533]

Subaru is the king of AWD. I've owned 2, and if I ever need to have a car to handle snowy weather again it will be another Sub, no contest.

[@EasyTechTrading]

i think this is where TFLcars gets their idea for awd test.

[@seanmetal4138]

Both are the best on the market. Both use equal length axles all around, which improves torque transfer as opposed to unequal axles like other crossovers. In addition, both cars are well designed, although the Audi is more over-engineered.

[@StoTemPil]

Does these Subaru system work equally good in a Manual 14' Crosstrek?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Unfortunately we didn't test manual.

[@omercankilickaya9965]

so what which one is better!??

[@Jassman3536]

look closely at the subaru testing. It appears that the far sided roller is just outside the wheels vs on the wheels of the Audi. Watch the camera angle. I have owned both and both are excellent.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Jeff Jassby Both cars were tested the same way. Q5 had wider tyres than XV.

[@alijaber3392]

Can you try to test the renault koleos 2017 or 2018

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+ali jaber I will try to get some 4x4 version for the test.

[@MrGalaxy1318]

Who know where I can buy that tool(roller) for test??

[@Sunofmungo]

Own both turbocharged audi and subaru. Both cars are equally reliable at getting you out of a tough low grip, alot of slip situations. At least thr manual trans ones. Not to sure about thr auto. But both are better tham my friends bmw X6

[@thehuonpine]

So one simply makes it permanent 4 wheel drive win over the more sophisticated and expensive Quattro.. it’s that simple!!

[@MrGalaxy1318]

Who know where could buy that roller equipment??

[@BrianAndersonTT]

If you are comparing to a new Subaru, you MUST include a 1 wheel test (3 rollers).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Brian Anderson There's many of such tests on my channel.

[@groovymotion5706]

What engine is in the Q5? Crosstrek high end model 35k CAD, Q5 Base model 55k lol. Also, Q5 base engine here has 252hp, so 100 more than the Crosstrek. Finally, Crosstrek comes with cheapo Geolander tires which are extremely ineffective! Still, I love mine (Sport model), just wish they added at least a turbo with lower boost so it doesn't affect the WRX sales! :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+GroovyMotion 2.0 TDI 180 hp.

[@claudyfocan731]

The Yokohama’s aren’t bad? Wtf

[@schuylerhecht8253]

GroovyMotion i got a 2017 and already popped 1 and patched the other, just under 13k and 2nd oil change

[@schuylerhecht8253]

geolander tires are f'n terrible, i agree.

[@groovymotion5706]

The stock tires have terrible traction, they scream in the curves...my Blizzak have better traction lol.

[@kamjarpourhang079]

👍

[@parkedjeep96]

I have an Impreza hatch right now but I want my next car to be a Crosstrek or Forester because of the AWD. This video only reinforces my desire to stick with Subaru

[@keegsbro786]

Impreza hatch is awd bro i have a 2013 with a 5 speed

[@futureoflink]

Where can you buy the rollers?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+futureoflink Please send me private message.

[@Trades46]

Seems about the same. Not a surprise as both Audi & Subaru are well known for their AWD systems.

[@SufferingAddict88]

Not really, especially in the first test where one axle is placed on rolls on one is not you can clearly see that Audi seems to be using all open diffs and hence the axle on the rolls keeps spinning and the Audi barely makes it off the rolls. Subaru uses a center locking or limited slip diff and hence the Subaru gets of the rolls imminently.

[@Trades46]

Mechanical system vs. electronic system. Different implementation but the end result is similar. While it may seem the Subaru system reacts faster, it may also catch drivers by surprise if the system intervenes in the middle of a turn. This is why the Impreza STI has its own unique mechanical AWD system similar to Audi's quattro as the 'slower reacting' system is more predictable.

[@SufferingAddict88]

I don't really know much about Audis system (read: I don't know shit about it), I just interpreted what I saw in the video. To me it looked a bit as if the Audi only came of the rolls due to finding some traction on the rolls rather than due to power transfer to the front wheels. If this is in fact an electronically controlled system that I would say it's reacting way to slowly. Regarding the Sti (btw. just to be nit-picky it stopped being "Impreza" quite a while ago, now it's just called WRX Sti): The system reacts pretty much instantly. It has limited slip diffs front and back (although different types) and one limited slip diff in the center as one as an electronic one in the center with clutch packs so that the driver can adjust the default power split. I would say "intervene" is the wrong choice of word with such a system, it simply puts the power wherever the grip is due to the mechanical set up. So in the test in this video where only one wheel is on the ground and the others on those rolls you would likely get of the rolls almost immediately.

[@SufferingAddict88]

edit: so I just informed myself a tiny bit on the quattro system and according to Audi it switches to front wheel drive as default and only activates the rear if needed. But it claims to do so in just milliseconds... Anyway, this is a bit surprising looking at this video because if by default all power goes to the front, than why did the Audi not get of the rolls in the first test instantly?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+SufferingAddict You probably read about Quattro based on Haldex or Quattro Ultra. Here we have Quattro with center torsen differential, this is completely different system. Read about torsen and you will find the answer for your question :-)

[@paulcotofana3716]

If you're just comparing the AWD systems, Subaru wins. However, these vehicles are worlds apart in terms of comfort, style, and overall quality. Our 14 XV had the strut mounts replaced before 20k, the gas struts on the lift gate failed, had random rattles in the dash and now has issues with a sensor causing the check engine light to flash. Our 13 Outback made so many noises & rattles and took 6+ trips to the dealer to sort out. Towing was also a joke. (1500 lbs real capacity, not the advertised 2700). Now we have a real SUV.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Paul Cotofana I am comparing just awd systems, or even just a part of them - traction control :)

[@tantraperdana]

Both are good. If you have a lot of money buy audi, but if not subaru is 2nd option

[@leonelsantamaria2212]

Subaru design the best AWD system all the way

[@petrolheadl3856]

Subaru is my life!

[@user-qg4te1qe2d]

Oh, that's a pity shame =( Where can we send money for ya treatment, boy? Hang in there!

[@airspacelord1387]

Had them booth. I'll keep my Audi. The Subarus constant AWD is nice but the Audis kicks on so quick you wouldn't notice the deference.

[@dogukankose6921]

Audi and Subaru two masters “true masters” of AWD

[@Kacpa2]

More like just them having true AWD system and longitunual drivetrains in most cars. But even with transverse Audi keeps it real. Toyota used to have cars like Subie in these terms like GTFour celicas, Lancer when they had Evo and Eclipse GSX. Now its incredibly rare most manufacturers use these phony stupid fake AWD systems that may turn on if you already loose traction, which just makes it more dangerous because people thing they can rely on it and it then makes car suddenly behave in different way which may just lead to more dangerous loss of control or overcorrecting. If you have manual Subaru you have really constant and predictable awd, and fun too because it will nicely oversteer in gentle way helping with turning on snow or ice, it never fails to deliver the power to the ground and move right away.

[@Haoi1216]

Subaru really need to invent their new super car to go toe to toe with the R8 V10 plus ! Stock STI isnt enough !

[@gigieinaudi24]

✨ ✨ better as ever on⭕️⭕️⭕️⭕️

[@automirr]

So who won?

[@ryanrabe5313]

Tires is not a big factor here bec. Like subaru symetrical awd it give power to the wheels which is not slipping the one with traction....

[@user-gn3cr9um5x]

Subaru 💓

[@cholulahotsauce7873]

Da fukk did I just watch?? Idk but I gave it a Like 👍

[@mannyechaluce3814]

Just in case you come across some rollers on the road :D best to just swerve around them :D

[@00Dusty]

The Audi Q5 wins on comfort and overall finish especially on the interior tho

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Whyman1993 yeah, I think that’s what most are forgetting here. The Audi has an excellent awd system. The Subaru system reacts a bit quicker, however the entire car is shit. The cvt, oil consumption, noisy and harsh ride. The Audi wins very easily.

[@locoraindrops7653]

Fair point until you compare msrp then you know why lol.

[@user-vc6lv1jv2j]

Subaru👍👍👍👍

[@tomyarifutomoable]

Subaru did it much more effortless than Audi

[@mityay84]

The same result... difference in the price of cars. (And maintains)

[@dylandog5063]

Dima Dima "Same" result? The Subaru responds much faster to the loss of traction in any wheel.

[@kushlord7256]

Dylan Dog "Same result" just doesn't cut it in the mud

[@eyeout]

Dima Dima if you watch again closely the Subaru automatically brakes the slipping tire and redirects power. The Quattro just eventually distributed power. Not the same.

[@MrTimstaaa]

Dima Dima. Same result ? You must have downed a bottle of johnny red before watching this. 🤢

[@jpch8814]

oh yeah because when you buy Audi you are buying it for AWD only lol

[@barbarbosshayrettin5097]

Subaru is the best.

[@UmbrellaCorporation3301]

aynen.. 👍

[@petrolheadl3856]

!!😎😎

[@Walter-hg2nr]

Barbarboss Hayrettin and the ugliest

[@raphaelbouteloup3297]

No Audi his better ! Audi r8 ttrs rsq7 !!!

[@Raaaphael]

Tug of war audi wins

[@nakajima_k2]

For true test Subaru AWD need test MT, not variator. Now Subaru have 4 type of S-AWD: 2 for AT and 2 for MT. Try test MT AWD - DCCD (Subaru WRX STI).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

They are all permanent awd systems, just different. And it will be hard to find a volunteer with DCCD...

[@mannyechaluce3814]

I don't know about you, if I see someone leave a roller thing like that in a Costco or Walmart parking lot I'll just drive around it :D

[@panayiotispalmiris1750]

Is Audi Q5 prefacelift (Torsen diff) or Audi Q5 facelift (Crown differential). The problem with torsen diff is the the ratio 1:4. If fronts do not move the 4x multiplication torque factor that theoretically could be send to the rear differential (ratio of front rear) is zero. So for Audi Q5, if prefacelift, I would love to see the same test with front wheels on rollers (no friction) which is their weakest link.. Cheers for the video.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Panayiotis Palmiris This car is from the end of 2015, I don't which version it is...

[@panayiotispalmiris1750]

duszaniespokojna Thanks, for the reply.( Prefacelift 2009-2012. Facelift from 2013-2016.)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Panayiotis Palmiris I think I tested prefacelift on 3 rollers, check my other videos. I also think there is no crown gear differential in facelift, it's rather Torsen, am I wrong?

[@panayiotispalmiris1750]

duszaniespokojna thanks I will check. Facelift comes with crown center differential. I have prefacelift with torsen. Crown diff is made by Audi unlike torsen (toyota technology).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Panayiotis Palmiris Crown gear differential as a standard or option? I thought it was only for sport models (RS).

[@SAViNGLiVE5]

4 rollers or not at all!

[@jeremyv11000]

The rollers don’t really kick in Quattro instantly because Quattro detects ice first not rollers. And then will send power instantly to wheel with traction. It’s just seen as an off-road or mud/snow situation.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Audilife If there is zero traction under one wheel, no matter if it is on roller or ice, Quattro (Torsen) is helpless, it behaves like open diff. Above tests (side and diagonal) are more about traction control, without that both cars would not send power to wheels with traction.

[@jeremyv11000]

duszaniespokojna lool that’s not the point before the car even begins to move if ice was detected by sensors there would be an immediate response. Quattro is very sensitive and can detect different situations. I understand from a view of no traction. But my point is the sensors didn’t detect ice and has a slower response.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Audilife Which Quattro and what sensors?

[@jeremyv11000]

duszaniespokojna now that I looked closer at the q5 looks like a an older q5 which might have torsen, but newer audis have switched to Haldex. The Quattro ultra, which can send power almost instantly, even can do 100% to the rear

[@jeremyv11000]

duszaniespokojna lool you’re comparing an older Quattro vs the new Quattro it’s made to make corrections with in Milli seconds put a newer Audi against the Subaru or any other awd system then test. Personal opinion and experience.

[@ararson4710]

no car company can best a awd subie

[@deathxop]

reako whal lol, only quattro , only hardcore

[@puga4202]

Land Rover? Maybe

[@puga4202]

xa mk did you even read what I wrote? I like the interior and ride quality of the Audi. But we are talking about all wheel drive system here. I don't own land Rover, but I assume they are as good if not better on off-roadding.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+TheEryk03 There is nothing unique in Quattro. Oldest ones had open diffs with lockers, like offroad cars. Later on there was torsen, used by many other car producers. The same with Haldex. And now Ultra, which is also nothing unique. Quattro is better than any 2WD and very equal to other good 4WD systems.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+TheEryk03 If we are considering sport versions, there are much more sophisticated awd systems in Subaru or Mitsubishi. And they are using it for years...

[@andrewwabisabi3839]

Maybe its just me, but I couldn't tell the two cars apart. Regardless, pricewise they are quite different,.

[@vvasia68]

Во время тестов машины узнавать по силуэтам? Я так и не понял кто есть кто!

[@hmkzosimaskrampis3185]

The first one was the Audi, the second one was the Subaru

[@johnsjohns2647]

Am audi 2002 A8 quattro torsen si se pisa pe tot ce inseamna 4wd din generatia ei

[@cmbambafu7625]

I want a Subaru or Audi but worried about quality and dependability. Can you reach 300k in one of these cars?

[@ferryansetyadi7192]

Subaru is very raliable, Subaru is part Toyota group

[@HandsomeTR]

real awd

[@leit1700]

0:04 for the audi at the rear and the subaru at the front... how dumb is this i really like subaru but common just make it similar

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Melde Dichan13321 What do you exactly mean? Audi is basicaly 40:60 (with center diff), while Subaru is 60:40 (without center diff).

[@jonstensrud1603]

duszaniespokojna Try this same test with an old school audi.... The "Quattro" system has been continually updated with a massive shift to street driving and away from the original ultimate goal of grip above all else. Hell my buddy had an old subie that had a locking center diff! That thing was unstoppable.

[@the33rules73]

duszaniespokojna not all Audi's 60:40 most use haldex system only the bigger engine have the real quattero system 2.0 TDI en 2.0 fsi haldex so front of wheel base!!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Ysbjorn Who says all Audi's are 60:40? Not me. In this test we have real quattro with Torsen or Crown Gear Center Differential, I am not sure which version it is. Subaru in this test is front wheel based with initial split 60/40.

[@the33rules73]

duszaniespokojna if it's a 2.0 liter tdi or 2.0 fsi it's haldex 3.0 tdi and bigger gas engine and SQ5 then it's a real quattero, other wise it's the same drive as VW MQB platform there it's called, 4motion, Skoda 4x4 so what engine in this Q5 ?

[@jmen8888]

Looks almost the same. Subaru should get better for the 2018 US model when X-mode becomes available. New one coming this summer.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+jmen8888 I tested Subaru Outback with X-mode, in roller tests it doesn't make any difference, there are some real conditions needed to feel its operation.

[@jmen8888]

Ok. Thanks for the info. I have a 16 Crosstrek but getting an 18 when they come out. Few reasons I want a new one, a major one is LED headlights. I have HID's for fourteen years in my Acura's, and not seeing as well using halogens are a huge problem for me.

[@amit3386]

Hi, the new Crosstrek is out, did you buy a new one? IF yes then which trim? and do you like it ?

[@LMO169]

I have Osram Night Braker Unlimited in my Crosstrek. After I installed them, I thought they are set up way to high, so I went to the Subaru dealer for a light adjustment. Result: Both headlights were way to low. Now they've the same range as the Audi Xenon Plus in my buds A4. Until now I had no change to compare them with LED powered headlights, because they cost like 2 grand and nobody is willing to order them.

[@nohaytregua1]

Y la prueba con una rueda solo?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

You can find it on my channel.

[@MrIhavedonuts]

The real test is putting the rollers on all wheels and seeing which car can get out of that!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+ThatHawaiianKID Correct, I would also put one roller under spare wheel!

[@CigoLopov]

Haha, good one! :D

[@locoraindrops7653]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers only if you are testing the Crosstrek Hybrid.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@locoraindrops7653 Why?

[@lazrussanschei5372]

Subaru is definitely better!

[@justexclusive6886]

Hah...why did you not put rolers at first audi try at front wheels...why not similar like Subaru...nice video subaru funboy... ☺

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Marko Sundek Subaru fanboy? Never had one, never even driven one. Initial torque split for Audi is 40/60, while for Subaru is 60/40 and that is the answer. Rollers are one the axle which has more torque.

[@yootoobecansoogmiballs8735]

Subaru over Audi all the time: theyre both fine but one of thoose two is expensive as fuck and costs a fortune for repairs......so subaru WINS!

[@bluelambo31]

🤔

[@adrianocarlos715]

Subaru 👍.

[@onyourface207]

what's with the location difference.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Bass Based Tests were made the same day, but in different locations. In fact, Subaru had a little bit harder cause there was slight uphill.

[@onyourface207]

thank you.

[@willsmith8142]

Do duszaniespokojna dziwne że torsen w audi nie blokuje osi przedniej i tylnej w wariancie rolek tylko z tyłu. .

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Radosław Szmigiel W przypadku braku przyczepności torsen zachowuje się jak zwykły, otwarty dyfer.

[@willsmith8142]

duszaniespokojna przyczepność była na przodzie☺.. widocznie przewaga dzięki technice to tylko chwyt marketingowy..

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

+Radosław Szmigiel Może źle się wyraziłem - w przypadku braku przyczepności jednej ze stron torsen zachowuje się jak zwykły, otwarty dyfer. Ten mechanizm nie potrafi się blokować, tylko mnoży moment. Na rolkach jest ~0, więc i po drugiej stronie będzie ~0.

[@jeffjones4071]

Subaru has the best awd system

[@Balint-gy5de]

subaru of course

[@motor1ir]

Subaru love

[@raphaelbouteloup3297]

C’est pareil

[@macjba3005]

A Subaru ya sólo le falta hacer los coches bonitos

[@mrpixelk1735]

I like Audi's but looks like the Suby won

[@tallll70]

If i would go for AWD, then definitely Acura's SH AWD aka IVTM4 on Honda (also good value), no center clutch only activating on slip like Subaru, there are many other awd systems which can actually lock center diff or close center clutch pack by selector if desired. I hope Subaru will ditch cvt and add at least center locker, even Jeep Renegade has it, Subaru needs to remain iconic and capable

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Two mistakes. Center clutch-pack in Subaru isn't activating only at slippage. Renegade doesn't have an option to lock the clutch-pack.

[@tallll70]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Not all, but Crosstrek, Legacy, Outback, Tribeca and Impreza vrx does with few slight differences like it closes either 50/50 or 60/40 on slip only...Renegade has center locker selectable with "4wd lock" button with limited capabilities to prevent binding, but it can be locked in speeds below 70mph, or before vehicle is moving and you take off with 50/50 split, there are even YT videos proving this exactly behavior on loose surface comparing to Crosstrek

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@tallll70 Nope. Activation of ACT-4 clutch-pack system in Subaru is based on many factors, not only slippage. It is active most of the time. When it comes to Renegade - LOCK button locks the dog clutch in power transfer unit, not the torque transfer clutch-pack.

[@tallll70]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes you right, Subaru's vtd, act4 detects slip, also uses other sensors and has good response to variables, but it can't be pre-locked and again slomo video proves how it takes off 2wd and slightly later it engages rear...It was the result which made me interested in that I do not know what exactly is locked with lock button in Renegade, but the result is that it spins front and rear together from get go I don't doubt Subaru's system is sufficient for dirt, wet, snow, nobody will rock crawl those needing uninterrupted momentum

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@tallll70 You are making very common mistake in understanding of rear wheels engagement - that is wheelspin (angular speed) vs torque. You can't SEE if rear axle is engaged from the beginning, torque is invisible. You can only see when it get locked with front one. If the initial torque split is for example 70/30 then there will be always overspin of front axle - but it doesn't mean at all that rear wheel are not engaged. In Subaru - if you press the acceleration pedal hard - clutch-pack gets locked. In Renegade - whatever mode you choose - dog clutch in PTU and rear clutch-pack are engaged or even locked at start. If LOCK mode isn't engaged - the system may disconnect completely the drive shaft so it will not rotate. If LOCK mode is engaged - drive shaft is always connected and spinning, even when only front wheels are powered (rear clutch-pack open).

[@yanisyanisbdu6690]

Eeeee c est quoi le but en faite ??

[@DumyG4m3r]

I like more audi ♡

[@kanamekyo8723]

Audi👍

[@adi.tjahjono]

AWD system must be coupled with strong engine otherwise resulting in poor driving experience

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

VW T3 - 70 hp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/roe3Ypx-m92Kp6s