Audi sound specialists hate me for this - The easiest way to improve the stock system of the A4 B8

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Ultimate DIY

Ultimate DIY

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@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
THIS VIDEO IS OBSOLETE! THERE IS A BETTER WAY WITH A SIMPLE CODDING: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYTRnaGVertoorc
@benjaminmcternan4075
@benjaminmcternan4075 Жыл бұрын
I can't get the video to play. Says it's private.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
Video is not released yet. It will be released today :)
@r4pid1337
@r4pid1337 2 жыл бұрын
Audi decided to take out low frequencies to prevent the doors from rattling. If you have a VCDS you can go to the Radio and change the Coding to "external AMP". This unlocks low frequencies.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this info! Dumb decision from Audi side, if you ask me...
@SayHelloToTheRobots
@SayHelloToTheRobots 2 жыл бұрын
but afaik this disables the factory amp that is built in the radio unit
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Really? That would be bad.
@r4pid1337
@r4pid1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@SayHelloToTheRobots No if you change "Sound Profile" you change the EQ only. There is another setting that deactivates the internal amp, that is right. I have a VCDS and tested it myself. I changed the sound profile and it improved sound by a lot. Had to dampen the doors though. Sound is a lot better now.
@SayHelloToTheRobots
@SayHelloToTheRobots 2 жыл бұрын
@@r4pid1337 could you write the necessary coding info then?
@korisnik4888
@korisnik4888 2 ай бұрын
As an owner of an a4 cant say how thankful i am for having you! So i have one question for you, could just simply adding an b&o amplifier give me better sound? Without the rewiring and new speakers?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 ай бұрын
Do the codding in my pinned comment first and see how you like it.
@korisnik4888
@korisnik4888 2 ай бұрын
@@UltimateDIY will check the video out, thank yoh
@darattaqwa
@darattaqwa 4 жыл бұрын
Good man for admitting when you make a mistake, excellent videos, thank you
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! :)
@siveguten3739
@siveguten3739 Жыл бұрын
I have 6,5" focal in front, and i noticed distortion and poor quality. I have the concert head unit. Does the same problem apply to the concert aswell? My friend who has somewhat the same setup in another car gets much better quality.
@siveguten3739
@siveguten3739 Жыл бұрын
I use an external amp as well, but the signal comes from the concert headunit, so it sound pretty bad..
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
I think there is a coding that you can do to get better sound. Basically you tell the head unit you have external amplification. Try to search for it on forums as I have not done it myself yet.
@siveguten3739
@siveguten3739 Жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Yes! I have OBDeleven - saw i could change the limiter somehow. I will try this, thank you :)
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
Good luck 👍🏼
@siveguten3739
@siveguten3739 Жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Thank you! Cant find a way to do it yet. Guess i just have to try it and see
@ThePelos1980
@ThePelos1980 Жыл бұрын
Great video. In my opinion, your front speakers' wires which move them on rear was out of phase so that's why you had no bass. The best option is to have a tool which you can check if your speakers are in phase or not
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
Thanks. But others have found out that actually Audi disabled low frequencies and they cand be even enabled with a change in codding. I have not done it yet, but it's on the list
@joeyglasses4050
@joeyglasses4050 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, love your videos!.. you are not pushing the front speakers with a amp.. If you amp the front they will move more and be MUCH louder! Those model speakers are designed to be mid to high mid range even though they will reach don to about 80hz
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@drabiktomasz
@drabiktomasz 2 жыл бұрын
Recode the tuner to turn off the sound equalization, then all speakers will get full range without tuner amp pre-equalization
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, found out about this about one year later.
@vikramjoshi7199
@vikramjoshi7199 2 жыл бұрын
how to do that
@drabiktomasz
@drabiktomasz 2 жыл бұрын
@@vikramjoshi7199 connect to the radio module using vcds and change the coding .
@vikramjoshi7199
@vikramjoshi7199 2 жыл бұрын
@@drabiktomasz Does this work for Audi Q7-2009 model.
@vikramjoshi7199
@vikramjoshi7199 2 жыл бұрын
@@drabiktomasz Is there any Video or any link showing how to do that. I don't own a vcds and have never used vcds, I can borrow it from some one, but would like to know the proper way of doing that. Thank You.
@MushypeasDMc
@MushypeasDMc 2 жыл бұрын
Good video I have the B&O but I don't see the subwoofer in setting
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
That is weird. Maybe your codding is wrong somehow.
@Aejaky
@Aejaky 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the 8 speaker system with a sub and do not see the sub setting also, very weird
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the 8 speaker version does not have a sub. The 9 speaker one does.
@0franforn0
@0franforn0 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I like your video. Some of us have noticed the upper volume max (34%) is perhaps not as loud as it could be and still have good sound reproduction. I wanted to know how to increase the volume compared to what is being played by the MMI radio. Is there an easy way to get it up? I hope to have your answer thanks :)
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Sorry, but I don't know this.
@kyleschepitan2384
@kyleschepitan2384 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking for the same thing. Music quality is very good but as volume is near max it quietens
@EvoGTR33
@EvoGTR33 Жыл бұрын
La mine cu sistemul standard boxele de pe fata au mai mult bass ca cele de pe spate... nu stiu cum la tine is invers
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 11 ай бұрын
Habar nu am, dar asa a venit din fabrica.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a Foxwell GT 60 for a code scanner. Had another unit for years but selling it on Offer Up.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
That's a nice scanner!
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY I had two others here but I did not think I could afford them, one was the Autel mk808ts and the Ancel FX9000, the FX was in the right price category but the Foxwell they had added more features plus better updates. Will I use these scanners, not much, just here just in case. My wife is good at saving money, I'm really good at burning it but for tools. At least I can make some money with them if I need to. Most goes for upkeep of the home and auto's .
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I buy a lot of tools also :))
@WpgCarLife
@WpgCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
hello. not sure what yr your audi is but my a4 is a 09 and all 4 door speakers are 6.5 inch. I've removed my fact sub( which is 8") as it was worn out and went with a after market amp and 2 10" subs in a box. my biggest problem has been finding the speaker wiring colors for + and - for the front and rear just to be sure i have them in phase.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Mine is a 2010 and front speakers are bigger 🤷🏻‍♂️
@weirdvein
@weirdvein 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know why my door speakers are not working but center speaker and rear sub works? Sometimes all speaker works but most of the time only center speaker and rear sub works. Thanks in advance.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a bad contact somewhere. Did you scan the car? Are there any speaker or radio related errors?
@weirdvein
@weirdvein 4 жыл бұрын
I dont have VAG to scan. But i have the Carista and found no related speaker or radio erros using Carista.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, in this case I don't really know what could be the problem.
@chaddonal4331
@chaddonal4331 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Is this (reduced bass in front speakers) done in all Audi Concert models?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I do not know. I don't even understand why it's done.
@kedzis
@kedzis Жыл бұрын
Do you know why in my Symphony 2 stereo i cannot hear any sound? Didplay turns on, volume seems to work according to display but cannot hear any sound, changed the amp in the boot and still the same. Radio has jammed cd error 3, could this be the reason?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
I really don't know. Never heard about such an issue. I would fix the jammed cd problem and see what happens.
@Succuub
@Succuub 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering does it also concern Audi Sound System in A6 C7? Anyone has tried this mod? I have replaced front speakers but still bass is weak on low volumes.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Could be. But for A4 B8 some have found a codding option to set the radio to "external amplification" and then you get full bass. Sadly I have not tried that codding, so I don't know what needs to be changed.
@carlos_sacalul
@carlos_sacalul 4 жыл бұрын
Salut. De la mufa aceea crem care ai desfacut-o as putea sa iau sunet pentru a alimenta un aplificator extern. Stiu ca acolo am semnal hi dar amplificatorul are intrare pt semnal de genul asta. Merci
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Salut. Da, poti cu siguranta.
@esdiem3499
@esdiem3499 3 жыл бұрын
Deci sa înțeleg,ai legat firele de la boxele din fata la cele din spate ca sa fie amplificate ca cele din spate cu subwooferul?Sau pe cele din fata le-ai legat cu amp de la subwoofer in locul celor din spate?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Pe cele din fata le-am legat la cele din spate si pe cele din spate la cele din fata.
@gam3rhashtag
@gam3rhashtag 3 жыл бұрын
I also got the box system with less speakers on my A5. Got 2 front window 2 front door and 2 back door with tweeter i think. So change the box for a beter one is no problem?? For the car at all? And what better type of box you need for subwoofer ?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Best way is to check the part code on your unit and search on forums for what others were able to succesfully replace it with.
@TheGamerRo1
@TheGamerRo1 2 жыл бұрын
Salut, dacă schimb amplificatorul din portbagaj, o sa se auda mai bine?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Salut. Depinde ce ai acum deja.
@TheGamerRo1
@TheGamerRo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Am totul stock, unitatea este Audi Concert. Care e cea mai ușoară metoda pentru a îl face sa se auda mai bine?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Din pacate nu am deloc experienta cu varianta Concert. Nici nu stiu daca are unitate in portbagaj sau unitatea din bord face totul.
@TheGamerRo1
@TheGamerRo1 2 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Are amplificator in portbagaj, in partea stânga.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Then maybe you can do what I did in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZbZpYdniZyhiZI But you need to double check part numbers and search on forums what is compatible with Concert.
@blizteredthumbs7911
@blizteredthumbs7911 3 жыл бұрын
Just in case anyone didn't realise... Yes, you can connect - + to + - ... But what will happen is your audio will be out of phase. This is why it is very important you wire correctly. To make it simple, if it is in phase, all your speakers push on the beat together, if it's out of phase the i.e. left speaker pushes on the beat and right sucks on the beat... But now your children's ears will survive but your wife was in buying ear protection lol
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that just about sums it up :)
@florinflo2531
@florinflo2531 3 жыл бұрын
Hai noroc Vreau sa upgradez de la magazie cu 6 CD la multimedia asa cum ai tu, intrebarea este...e posibil si daca este este greu? Trebuie multe chestii codari eu am B&O sistemul audio Ms fain
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Salut. Imi pare rau, dar din pacate nu stiu sa iti raspund.
@micul24
@micul24 18 күн бұрын
Thanks fornthe video. Btw... you have some intresting hand thumb fingers
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 18 күн бұрын
Ok, din not know about that 😁
@razvan1107
@razvan1107 3 жыл бұрын
Salut, stiu ca este pe langa subiect, cum ai facut sa apara temperatura langa ceasul de pe ecranul MMI?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Salut. Asa apare din fabrica atunci cand ai clima cu o singura zona. E temperarura interioara.
@razvan1107
@razvan1107 3 жыл бұрын
Mda...eu am pe doua zone! Apare in consola la volan! Ma gandeam ca ai gasit un cod ceva in vcds 😁! Multumesc frumos!
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@razvan1107 nope, doar ca am varianta ieftina :)
@davidiancu6156
@davidiancu6156 3 жыл бұрын
Salut! Am si eu o problema cu sistemul audio la un a4 allroad din 2010. Nu se mai transmite in boxe nici macar un sunet, ca si cum nu ar exista. Toate astea s au intamplat dupa ce am instalat un cui de remorcare, mai exact cand am legat priza de la cui la sistemul electric. Ce ar putea fi? Amplificatorul sau doar ceva din cabluri din cate am inteles..ma poti ajuta cu o schema electrica “stock” sau cu un sfat?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Salut. Nu am schema electrica. Ai scanat masina sa vezi ce erori are? Verifica si sigurantele.
@davidiancu6156
@davidiancu6156 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY da, am scanat masina, eroarea zice “no signal”
@davidiancu6156
@davidiancu6156 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY te-ar ajuta codul erorii?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Sunt sanse sa fi stricat cablajul cand ai adaugat carligul? Mie imi sugereaza ca tie nu iti mai comunica mmi cu unitatea radio din portbagaj.
@davidiancu6156
@davidiancu6156 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY da... la asta ma gandesc si eu, de aia caut o schema electrica, eu personal nu prea ma pricep pe partea asta. Nu eu mi am montat modulul de carlig, iar cel care a facut asta, foarte probabil sa fi afectat firele. Din amplificator nu se aude nimic, niciun “bârâit”, nimic
@mkfourgli1
@mkfourgli1 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the information
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
From my own testing.
@manuelparisi9128
@manuelparisi9128 2 жыл бұрын
Dove si trovano le connessioni
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
In the trunk, on the left side behind the cover pannel.
@MaxStudioCG2023
@MaxStudioCG2023 3 жыл бұрын
m.am gandit eu ca esti roman :)) ..bravo ma ...bun video ...am un 2016 in spate au pus doar un dofuzor mai mare pt bass
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Da, ms ✌🏼
3 жыл бұрын
are you saying that my 2013 audi allroad with the B&O came with the front speakers nerfed too? should I do a swap to see if it improves?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this affects B&O systems.
3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY thank you for your reply. I have a 2013 Audi Allroad with a B&O, I am trying to upgrade it. Can you sell me a kit? and should I use my VCD to remove the enerf in the speakers first?
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
I don't sell anything. For base sound system I heard you can remove the limitation from the front speakers, but I don't know about b&o.
@orkov6219
@orkov6219 3 жыл бұрын
It does i have 2021 Q7 and i have the same problem my kids are always complaining of bass sounds in a back.
@MeirCohen.kingbibi
@MeirCohen.kingbibi Жыл бұрын
My back speakers on my Audi A4 2023 are more bassy vs the front speakers.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
Standard situation...
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
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@FlexxoMaticify
@FlexxoMaticify 3 жыл бұрын
I give you a much more improve go to ccds > radio > byte 4 > external Soundprofile You will killed
@MeirCohen.kingbibi
@MeirCohen.kingbibi Жыл бұрын
You are right.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY Жыл бұрын
✌🏼
@Ranhola1
@Ranhola1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I still didn't get it, why not just buy a set of better speakers for the front
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
The speakers are not the problem. The radio unit is set to not output low frequencies to the front speakers. Butz weirdly enough, it outputs them to the rear speakers, so I just swapped rear and front wires.
@Ranhola1
@Ranhola1 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY ok i get it now, thanks. I would like to improve the quality and volume of my sound system too. i have a mmi 3g on my avant b8.5, i like what you done there but i was thinking more inicially on swapping my speakers for the premium version bang n olufsen (the ones that come with the s/line)... i know i will be spending more money but dont you think is woth it? thanks
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
The B&O have a different impedance, so they will not work with your unit. You can check trough my "Car related" playlist and see what I upgraded the speakers to.
@Ranhola1
@Ranhola1 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY will do, thanks!
@jimpap13
@jimpap13 3 жыл бұрын
looks dodgy and the reason why i dont buy 2nd hand cars, just buy a amp with built in dsp problem solved.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Moving a few wires between them is dodgy? You add your amp without modifications? If you make modifications, they are dodgy and others should not buy your car. Jocking, but I can't follow your logic here. I show in the video that the sound system was nerfed by Audi and anybody can make it sound better without spending a single cent. Of course you don't need to do this, if you can throw a few hundreads/thousands of $ in the mix. Also, it seems somebody found a codding that can do this modification without moving wires. A future video will show that.
@GazZladz
@GazZladz 2 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Hi, can't find the coding that you're talking about, could you send me in the right direction? Thanks!
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I have no link for it. I'm just reporting what others mentioned in the comments of my A4 B8 audio related videos.
@GazZladz
@GazZladz 2 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY no worries! Thanks for your help! I have been messing around with the coding in my A4 B8 (Standard MMI 3G sound system) I think I've found the coding that you're talking about if you'd like me to share
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please share 👍🏻
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why you buy Audi? They are horribly designed. Hate to say it but German automobiles should be well made but they are money pits. Buy Hyundai, KIA or and if you can afford it Toyota. I have to Hyundai Elantra's 2010, 2014, Ford Focus 2007 SES and now a 2021 KIA Seltos EX, not sure how the KIA will work out but I think it will be OK.
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know either....they are not what they used to be. Next car for sure will not be a German one anymore.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Thumbs up on that comment. I still like some America cars but you have to be careful. Asian is best, Not China but even they become good at putting an automobile together. I was afraid to see your reply but after all the research German cars are a mess. Scotty Kilmer is a good one to watch on KZbin, extreme Toyota fan. Currently he like to give more advice then repair videos but he is right. My bother which is now much richer then myself, he had a used 1980 turbo Audi, it was a disaster but he believed in it, fixed the issues and sold it but then continued as he prospered to buy really nice news ones. They ended up being junk, he bought a Mercedes AMG and it had an issue with the front suspension that they were not able to solve. With all the money he threw at these cars I could have had 15 Chevy Impala's , it's decent car if you take care of it from new. All the automobiles I purchase from new but I kept them 10 years or more, Oldsmobile Starfire 1978, my fault, didn't like emission controls; disconnected the vacuum advance and the engine a 3.8L ran like junk, that was a nice car though, ended up dumping it for lack of knowledge , got my license at 15 with my fathers 1975 F250 pickup, we managed a stable at the time with 40 horses, 20 were rented out for rides the rest were rented spaces by individuals to ride on their own as they wanted to. 1980 Oldsmobile Cutlass with a 260CI, later I replaced it with a 350CI and added T tops, People say it is still driving today, it was black with a red pin stripe. Sold it for 2000$ over purchase. It blew the under rated 200 hyrdromatic transmission in the winter,two months after the purchase and was replaced by the dealer with 350 THM, Turbo Hydromatic is what they were called back then. Next.. Ordered a Pontiac 1985 Grand Am with everything but it did not come in as promised, in those days you ordered a car, if you wanted something more then the base model, it did not come in as it should have with the electronic dash so I was up-sold being young to the Pontiac 6000STE. It was an interesting car, fuel pump failed after 3 months of owning that one, past on to my sister, for the time it did have the electronic dash, it drove well but the engine was losing life at 120,000 miles. But my sister was good with it. 1994, I start working as a contractor for Hewlett Packard, I did so for 7 years, I got out because I was doing 24X7 service on servers and printers every 8 weeks at first and then it dwindled down to ever other week. I'm about having a life, ended up doing allot of things including ATM's and Xerox between yesterday and today in which I'm with hp once again for the last 5 years. But I did purchase the 1994 Ford Taurus LX Wagon, everyone thought I was crazy but I knew the job was going to be a good one; one that I had not had before. I was a computer geek coming from being a Typewriter tech for 15 years. Need an IBM model A through Selectric you know where to come for advice. Many others on top of that. Ran The Milwaukee BBS for 7 years... On to the 1994 Taurus, 3.8L drove like a dream, hp had company cars and at that time they were all the same the Taurus, I figured why not fit in, i purchased it but it was better then the company model. I saw one sales person upgrade as that is an option for an hp internal employee. I gave this car up to Kars for kids with some 290,000 miles, it was clean, the transmission was still OK but I started to see low oil pressure with the light flickering, could have been a bad sensor but it had done it work for me and now that organization could rebuild her for another person. She was 13, I know you say he.. Ford Focus 2007 SES, still have her today. they seemed to have solved all the issues the prior models had, the later models are worse or no better. 100% runner with 129K miles today. I treat her well with Royal Purple and synthetic tranny fluid every 6000 miles. Yes both transmission and oil every 6000 miles. The two Hyundai's Elantra 2010 and 2014, purchased new and runners, the 2010 is in my garage up on all fours right now for brake lines. One failed but I'm doing them all. That was my daughters car but is now mine to do what I like with it. She bought the 2021 KIA Seltos EX, I don't know why but she will not drive the thing. She asked if I wanted it and I said absolutely not you worked for it!!! She is afraid of damaging it. ;). The 2014 Elantra is also a runner, just had new tires installed yesterday, I see it riding like new my wife seems to care less about that stuff. I said enough but I though it might be interesting to hear someones story. 60 years worth or life story... As Paul Harvey would say; "Now you know the rest of the story" .. Gerald
@UltimateDIY
@UltimateDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! It was really nice to read :)
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateDIY Cool..
@adrian2b
@adrian2b 4 жыл бұрын
well because some people like choose their car like their woman. Yes a good car /woman is the uglier one / a little bit fatter and slower. But you get the car/woman you like or love no matter how many issues or shortcomings she has. If the car you love breaks down or has issues - you dont mind cz you love her, but if the fat ugly one breaks down you wanna send it to the scrap yard. We have a saying here in Romania - there are 2 things you don't borough - your car and your woman
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