Audiophile Vinyl Roundtable - What's AP’s next "BIG" announcement? Exodus has shipped!+MOFI lawsuit!

[@hubtunes9607]

Hey Tim ! Thanx for the mention! Mofi watches A LOT of videos from the larger channels to small ones like me. They saw a video where I talked about being deaf in one ear so I couldn’t be an audiophile, but still love a good sounding recording. Someone very highly up took the time to reach out to me during the scandal. We chatted for about 30 minutes. It was interesting Great video as always Steve. 🎶☮️🎶

[@bryanmorgan758]

DMM sounds great, SAE mastered lots. My original modest mouse albums sound incredible.

[@johntorma1224]

I have a Japanese Beatles box that is all DMM. Limited to 1000 copies. Never heard of DMM before. 30th Anniversary of the UK blue box.

[@novisnick6928]

I Just adore what you bring to the table! So much great information, stories and fun with the guests you have . Thanks so much Steve. Special thanks to Mazzy & Tim. My Exodus has shipped. 🎼📦😁

[@fts81]

Great seeing you guys again, Steve! Nice panel as always

[@stevewestman7774]

Thank you 🙏

[@vintagevinylvets1187]

Again, Mazzy nailed it-$60 is the “sweet spot.” As far as DMM, we’ve been fortunate to have had great experiences with them, they sound terrific!🎧

[@TurboYeti72]

Nice to give props to Bill Callahan, Mazzy! Love Bill. "Shepherd in a Sheepskin Vest" sis another gem. I love his wry sense of humour and witty obervations. Great, chill music and smart lyrics.

[@JamesRFernandez2010]

Love those lucky deals we find out there like your REM. I found the Chet Baker Craft boxset for 35 bucks last month. I paid and ran outta there like I was gettin away with something!

[@mccarthyd6603]

Great job...interesting discussion boys! Felt bad for Tim though on the bottom screen ...when Steve and Mazzy get going there is not a lot of room for feedback and discussion for the poor guy on the bottom 🫣🫣🫣

[@Masticator93]

Hi Steve, been watching your channel lately and it's refreshing compared to most of the other audio/Hi-Fi KZbinr's it see. Most of them are too pretentious for me but I enjoy your channel because it is more informational than someone's stupid opinion. Love your interviews with people in the industry too. Keep up the good work!

[@stevewestman7774]

Really appreciate that. ❤️Thank you so much. 🙏🙏

[@Tahoe415]

Steve, would be great to see the roundtable discuss favorite albums of the last few years. Would love to add some recent vinyl to my collection!

[@Darrin.Crawford]

He cant. He can only talk about Mofi and AP.

[@Wreckords-Marcel]

I really like these round table discussions. I am a little burnt out on all the KZbin videos from so many channels. Just too much time to follow all of them. But your channel is one of the few I plan on following. Keep it up!

[@stevewestman7774]

Much appreciated. Thank you.

[@Licoricedisc]

I bought the LZ 45rpm travel case and I remember at the time that shortly after it released, Page cancelled all pressing contracts because Classic didn't have permission to press the 45rpm set.

[@renzonovara2728]

Great round table as always. Thanks guys! 👏🏼

[@FleagleSangria]

Steve, thanks, your shirt now has the Mtv theme song as an earworm in my ear at 1 am in the morning. Lol Nice video! Thanks.

[@NickP333]

Thanks, John. It’s now imbedded in my brain for the day too…lol

[@FleagleSangria]

@@NickP333 😆its spreadin'

[@bbfrid88]

Good video, guys! I agree with Mazzy on Bill Callahan. I love Dream River.

[@JazzBums]

Nice job guys. This is one of my favorite series in the VC. I am looking forward to Craft’s Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis box that’s due out March 3. - Mike

[@TRamone01]

Dylan's Fragments 230. Great price.

[@audiotomb]

Many people on Hoffman forums don’t like the Doors ERC The AP45 along w the rest are a killer sounding Doors set

[@davidpetersen7091]

A bowl of good English pipe tobacco...a "fresh" cup of coffee...and you guys discussing audio...life can't get much better than this. Mr. Pete---------> aging hippie

[@PiecesofVinyl]

I think one of the best things MOFI could do for the VC is SHIP THE PRODUCT! Its absolutely absurd they still haven't shipped some of these that have been advertised for over a year. Still waiting on that Bill Withers Still Bill (or not passed on it at this point).

[@Meowlico]

I'm definitely waiting on the Band on the Run abbey road half speed master, it should be coming up for the 50th anniversary.

[@analoguecity3454]

Mazz is the coolest 😎! I think all you guys are cool 😎 too, but Mazz is the tops! Got kind of an innocent "man-crush" on Mazz! My girlfriend laughed at me!

[@zombiedrummer4life]

I was today years old when I realized I live an hour away from Mofi's headquarters 😂 Don't know why I never put Sebastopol and Mofi together til now

[@kguy2know]

Great MTV shirt!!!

[@stevewestman7774]

Thanks 🙏

[@robertendsley8312]

Michael 45 has to be on the promo gravy train. Every single record is either “WOW” or “Amazing”. Every. Single. One. Dude hasn’t paid for a record since the first Bush administration.

[@drumvc8060]

If you watch all the reviews, you will realise your statement isn’t quite correct. I actually think for the most part we get an honest and objective review; it’s often the case that the recommendation is that the original country of origin press is the best, maybe very closely followed by an AP etc. but overall, we have an objective review.

[@robertendsley8312]

@@drumvc8060 show me the link to the ONE. Have NEVER seen ONE……..

[@plasticsoundwavecult]

Very interesting discussion.

[@spolutnik]

Bill Callahan was pressed at Smashed Plastic in Chicago

[@charliewelch6859]

Kevin Welch thought you might like this.

[@kwelch77]

If Paul goes on tour I'm going.

[@zackamania6534]

I’m not a journalist. I love James Taylor. I want my mofi trip by god

[@analoguecity3454]

If Melinda makes a video from here visit, I'd love to see it! Very nice lady!

[@amosperrine1909]

While I don’t have either the Classic or MoFi Brodge OverbTrpubled Water, I do have the 2 eye and the other, a bit later Columbia one. I got the later not that long after the album came out, and the former some years back. The 2 eye smokes the other. As such I am suspicious of Columbia’s 1970s pressings.

[@Universityofvinyl]

Yes, the early 2-Eye is a great pressing. That album is such a contrast in soundscapes & musicianship. Not to mention Art’s amazing vocals 👍🏻

[@jasonarsenault3791]

Hey Steve when YOU get invited to mofi , ask if they can pay my way too. I’ll just sit quietly on the sidelines 😂 #roadtrip

[@stevewestman7774]

Perfect. Love to do a road trip with a fellow Canadian.

[@analoguecity3454]

I think that MTV shirt is before they started to suck, am I right?

[@67Pepper]

I passed on the Zeppelin 45's when they were released, think the set was around $500- at the time. $9,500- for a N/M box!! Don't forget to claim the profits on that deal on your 1040. 80,000 new IRS agents on the prowl, be careful.

[@Licoricedisc]

I remember paying $700 and still have it along with the 33s.

[@tiredoftheentitled9009]

Hi chaps. I enjoyed the discussion. I am not an audiophile. All MOFI has proved is that Audiophile snobbery has created a market for over priced records, yet not one Audiophile noticed that what they were reviewing from MOFI as excellent were not audiophile copies, I.e. not one audiophile noticed the difference in what they were listening to. Come on chaps just enjoy the music. John 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Darrin.Crawford]

Don't confuse audiophile snobbery with analog snobbery which is exactly what these guys are.

[@danielshafransky3379]

Great content Steve. Some negative comments out there and I hope you don't take this as a negative, but get a better mic dude. 😊

[@audiotomb]

The Mofi DSD 64 mostly sound better than their DSD 256 More tinkering perhaps on the later Got the Mikes In A Silent Way Mofi and it is more dynamic than the 2 eye original

[@Anthony-fz7uf]

Great video. I would like to say something about SH forum. A friend was banned from that site for no reason . Yesterday . He wind up killing himself and he left a post on his computer . Why ? Was I banned . The most nicest guy .

[@latheofheaven]

Hey Steve! You sure bring some great people and fascinating conversations here 👍 If I may please just make one lowly and humble suggestion which I think would make our watching more enjoyable... Since you are the host and interviewer, you'll notice that the really good talk show hosts and others like that are very good at sitting back and allowing their guests to talk, which I think you do for the most part. But, I get the impression that maybe your eagerness to join in or instantly respond with an 'Oh yeah' or as the person is talking about an album, you'll almost jump in and ask 'you got that at so-n-so, right?' or maybe 'that was about $40, right? And I think to us as the audience, it might be more pleasant and relaxed if people didn't interrupt each other so much because then to me anyway it starts to make me uneasy and nervous with everyone jumping in and kind of unintentionally interrupting each other, I almost want to turn it off because it kind of starts to get on my nerves. BUT... I really *DO* want to watch so I kind of just try to bear with it 😁 But, I think it would be so nice and pleasant if especially you as the host and the primary guiding force in these interviews (and I KNOW it isn't easy!) just to maybe sit back a bit and let others finish their thoughts, especially when they are talking about an album or something, and maybe kind of hold back that impulse to say anything or fire questions at them while they are talking, you know what I mean? I hope you don't mind the suggestion because YOU are one of the main ones doing this which is great! But, it might be even more enjoyable and easier on us, the listeners, if it could come across a bit more smoothly. I know when there is a silence when someone appears to be done talking about something, that is different and kind of hard to know. Maybe instead of nervously jumping in with a kind of 'Rapid Fire' statement, just develop a smooth calm way to lead into whatever your next point is or calmly say something transitional and then turn the attention to one of the others, something like that. But, primarily when they are in the process of talking, maybe just not interjecting quite so many sounds or questions or even agreements, because it tends to break up the flow of the conversation, then everyone kind of stops at once. But, I think if you take the lead and kind of hone that skill, the others will be able to be more smooth in following your example 😊 I think that way you will almost certainly get more 'Likes' and 'Thumbs Up' because people will find it a much more enjoyable experience. NOT just because of the excellent people and content, but because of the smoother presentation will make it a lot more appealing to the listeners. Not to make comparisons, but perhaps observing Michael 45's style, although I KNOW it is at the other end of the scale compared to your enthusiasm. But, perhaps just incorporating a BIT more of that laid back style here and there to add to the overall smoothness of the presentation. Just my thoughts...

[@Darrin.Crawford]

He cant do it. He's a Fremer wannabe so it's all about him. Plus he has to 'prove" what he owns.

[@latheofheaven]

@@Darrin.Crawford HEY, HEY, HEY! Now, c'mon... Let's be nice 😊 Geez man, I'm trying to be as kind and diplomatic as possible here, but I honestly want Steve to succeed. What he does and how he is able to get all these great people together is *EXTREMELY* beneficial to all of us. See Steve... I KNOW I can be a bit irritating and I come across as maybe a tad critical sometimes, but *I'M TRY'N TO HELP YOU DO YOUR BEST MAN!* 😁👍 Just a bit of polish Bro, it is an art. *YOU* are the director here and how you lead the others can REALLY make your efforts here go from GOOD to GREAT! You just about have it my friend, just burnish the few rough edges, that's all... 😊 My primary 2 suggestions are: 1) Don't interrupt at all, not even with 'Uh huhs' or 'Yeahs' And, number 2) When it seems like one of your guys is done speaking, I know that is a bit of an awkward pause because you want to be sure they are done before you speak and you don't want 'Dead Air'. But, instead of just rushing in to fill the 'space', find smooth, calm ways to transition after a person seems like they are done. Like, a nice slow 'Very good' and a calm pause. Then proceed with your next question or your next person. Another time maybe something like a calm slow 'That was very interesting' (calm pause), etc... This will make your transitions and the overall conversation flow a lot better, without these (seemingly) nervous interruptions or jumping in immediately. We will all love it that much more!

[@Darrin.Crawford]

@@latheofheaven Hey Lathe! Hope all is well. I appreciated your comment hen hence why I commented however I do not tippy toe around folks or issues. You don't have to kiss his ass. He's not a God and amateur interviewer at best. He's trying to be something he's not. Don't feel bad or feel guilty or tippy toe around your feelings. I disagree. He's not being beneficial. He's ruining it for upcoming vinyl enthusiasts and also existing ones. I want him to succeed as well but he is big time pretentious. Not good for the Vinyl Community. He is a true analog snot and elitist wannabe. His videos prove it without a doubt. Melinda and Mazzy are much more constructive and honest.

[@NickP333]

Steve, another great vid, man. Great cast with Mazzy, Tim, and yourself. That’s some beautiful gear, btw. I dig the KEF blades with that Chord Dave DAC. MoFi should really reach out to the VC and certain people within it for interviews. I dunno, maybe someone like you?! I think what they’re doing with Melinda is great. I hope they do more stuff like that. Loved listening to you guys talk. Great vid as usual, Steve. Thanks, man! Edit: I’m so glad I grabbed the Dylan mono box when I did, especially if you’re saying it’s going for like $600 now. Mine was thankfully a 1/4 of that, but more than that, it’s just a fantastic box set. Thanks again. 🎶

[@Darrin.Crawford]

Don't be fooled. It's not his gear and he NEVER shows his home setup.

[@rabarebra]

Couldn't care less of these whatever releases in the future. Pure $-grabs and no, they don't sound great either.

[@fts81]

Jazz bums buy their records and I even toss them lol

[@stevewestman7774]

Send them to me instead of.

[@fts81]

@@stevewestman7774 lol, if a record is bad, it surely deserves it :D

[@scottwheeler2679]

I think it's high time we stop putting all analog mastering on a pedestal. It is, in fact, at this point an inferior process. The Plangent system and other digital processing that corrects ugly errors in analog recording without any loss of musical information are objectively superior and it's high time that fact is acknowledged and embraced. So long as the vinyl community continues to cite and get excited about all analog mastering we will be stuck with the inferior product that results. It's a myth that desperately needs to be buried.

[@mazzysmusic]

I don’t think we are putting all analog on a pedestal at ln fact the two mofis I showed here are DSD transfers and sound amazing. The Dylan box I shows is digital. Both can be fantastic if the mastering is done well. Plangent has made live dead takes better. Plangent improved the Springsteen catalog. I may prefer a well mastered all analog issue. But it’s not a requirement. Just wish more would try using the tapes aaa if possible first.

[@scottwheeler2679]

@@mazzysmusic 1. By we I mostly meant the collective of vinyl enthusiasts not just the three of you and not just this video. 2. You did put all analog mastering on a pedestal. The Fleetwood Mac repress was touted as all analog as if that was an inherent quality that made it better. You expressed a wish for an all analog cut of All Things Must Pass. You were critical of Abby Road Studios for not caring about all analog but gave them credit for doing the all analog mono Revolver as though that made it a better mastering. That sounds to me like an all analog is inherently better position/ putting it on a pedestal. And IMO contributes to the perpetuation of the urban myth that all analog mastering is inherently superior. I simply don't see any rational objective support for that position. I think there is an objective case that all analog mastering at this point is an inherently compromised approach and that hi res digital transfer/Plangent transfers are in all cases an objectively superior/state of the art path to making records. I do want to give you a big pat on the back for defending Melinda from the idiot spoiled brats at the Hoffman forums.

[@Darrin.Crawford]

@@scottwheeler2679 I have seen this one or two times as well. Mazzy will praise a reissue and then wished or wishes for all analog. I"m thinking why? You just praised it. Yes that's definitely putting analog on a pedestal and even by his comment here he's doing it again but he doesn't realize it. Steve needs to realize that audiophiles do not always equate to analog only which is exactly what he promotes in all of his videos. Notice he never reviews ANY albums that are definitely audiophile quality unless it's a MoFi, AP or has been cut by his hero's, Gray, Grundman, Chad, McGee and/or Showell l just for the sake of his channel AND tries desperately tries to be on level with Fremer.? He's a total analog wannabe and trying to be an elitist and in the know-how of what sounds good. He never shows you his collection nor his own audio equipment and has to depend on his buddies at the Hi Fi centre to show off a system that he doesn't ...nor will ever own. I love a good analog mastered and cut record as well, as I do a digitally cut These folks are not listening. They are listening with their brains at the words digital and analog and not with their ears.

[@scottwheeler2679]

@@Darrin.Crawford I think it has become a force of habit borne from a time when it was a better way to master records. But digital transfers have long since progressed to the point of audible transparency and DSP allows for transparent fixes of unwanted analog artifacts. And really what I was trying to suggest was that we should all break this habit. It does not do any of us a service.

[@CarstenFalck]

Too much talking from Steve W 🤐

[@Darrin.Crawford]

He's a wannabe Fremer. He can't help himself.

[@bangoash]

I could only take 8 minutes of this. Yuck!

[@user-yk4gd1fl4z]

Why?

[@DC-xx4kv]

@@user-yk4gd1fl4z read my comment. That should answer your question.

[@DC-xx4kv]

I’m with yuu. I just posted a comment if you care to read it. ☮️

[@rabarebra]

Can't stand these self-proclaimed VC people either. Who do they think they are?

[@Darrin.Crawford]

@@rabarebra They are not audiophiles by any means. They are analog snobs.

[@bautistarafa70]

Love saludos 🫂