Testing Goodwill's Weirdest Gaming Finds

[@likheetshetty]

Austin Oil up when?

[@ryannguyy]

💀

[@jhosvillanueva7265]

First Carter now Austin

[@Azuresam_]

AINTNOWAY you said that

[@Rober-zo8fv]

Bro what 💀

[@sotkajarvi]

LMFAO!😂

[@KILLERONROAD]

You have to be in a VERY specific area to get a decent Goodwill experience at this point. Goodwill sucks so bad now. I used to go there for cheap things I couldn't afford elsewhere, now they want like $25 for a moldy coffee maker you can just buy in store brand new for cheaper. That business has gotten so insanely greedy.

[@BennettBoi]

Depends on which one you go to but yeah most of them have focused on maximizing profit and the corporation has been gradually reducing what percentage goes to those in need

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

covid killed goodwill, they realized how greedy they could be.

[@ななころび]

I was living on Haight St in San Francisco before the pandemic and holy shit the tech I would find in SF was insane even compared to Austin in LA.

[@weselsmith]

Huh where I am goodwill is still quite cheap. I’ve gotten things worth 100$+ for under 10. I think each region set prices so some areas are much better/worse than others

[@keithhack777]

most are still ok vs savers if you have them in your area they normally charge a ton more was at one today and found a set of 30$ walmart boots for 26$ with heavy scuffing and wear i partially blame all the people making goodwill and savers hual videos they tuaght the companies they were pricing things too low if others could make a profit after buying them, what is nuts is both companies get everything for absolutely nothing as almost everything is a donation so even at a dollar an item they would be making 100% return yes i know they have to pay electric employee wages and space rent but greed will be downfall of places like this

[@calibertv2483]

resellers, scalpers, and greedy people really ruined goodwill honestly. It used to be a treasure trove for the less fortunate people, then covid happened along with a retro video game craze now in most locations you won't even find a single video game.

[@pwnomega4562]

That what I'm thinking, how did they find all this stuff?!? All the good wills/thrift stores in my area got nothing but musty crusty old clothes, worthless nick nacks, and old broken electronics and. Appliances... I think the only thing I bought from any of these places was a DVD of a 90s movie called "6 string samurai"

[@gradebrigade]

Goodwill lists most of their video games and computers on their website now

[@mrbalazs1995]

3:34 that is so much dust, that DKOldies could give a seal of approval on that.

[@brucedemarest3929]

I just went to this Santa Ana Goodwill this morning. I was shocked (SHOCKED I tells ya) at the prices. Almost new laptops for around $100. Huge monitors for less than $100. Just so much stuff for great prices. Thanks for letting me know about this gold mine!

[@RenegadePandaZ]

The disc tray mechanism probably breaks because people push the tray in instead of pushing the eject button a second time. I never knew people did that until recently, and it pains me to see people doing that. Just push the eject button, it's far less stress on the tray mechanism, and it easier.

[@KILLERONROAD]

My cousin used to push his PS2 disc tray in all the time and I hated it. He would tell me "you're supposed to do that" like no dude, you're not. I'm not surprised people would have disc drive issues after doing that.

[@fortyfukinseven]

It's labeled EJECT. If it were labeled OPEN/CLOSE it would be more apparent. I used to push the tray for years until I learned the button would close it as well

[@InsaneCinnaRoll]

Im 17, i believe this is a 360 you’re talking about, but yeah, i used to use those all the time, and it is very painful to see people do this

[@SeanSMST]

​@@InsaneCinnaRoll Do you think only the xbox had an eject button?

[@InsaneCinnaRoll]

@ nah, i just realized this was about PlayStation consoles, i own more of those than Xbox, dont yell at me

[@aurorablaize]

Being able to just swap out batteries is a godsend and I will absolutely fucking die on that hill. Like literally, get some rechargables and you're golden.

[@Night_Shifter]

2nd this! 10 years down the line good luck finding quality lithium replacement batteries. The next big push should be standardizing lithium batteries in rechargeable devices.

[@ohiostate614oh7]

Especially if that controller is a special edition. I had the special edition Sea of Thieves controller. Imagine if that had a built-in battery that went bad.

[@lobsters12111]

Yeah honestly battery replacement needs to be part of a consumers right to repair or replace law everywhere. Too many places don't have decent ones in place because companies are in politicians pockets.

[@railpao]

The only one dying on any hill would be Austin with his complaints over AA batteries on controllers. If the built in batteries on other controllers were a standard of some sort, his argument would be receivable.

[@Galiant2010]

I use an Xbox Series X/S controller on my PC. I just either always have it plugged in or if I really want to lie back without a cord getting tangled in my feet I use AAs. I was so into the 360 controllers being wireless when they first came out but I just found them to be too much of a hassle with the battery packs, or like Dualshock not even having replaceable battery packs. Wired or AA for me, any day.

[@cjrensh]

I went to a tech high school and created the DDR club. Lots of fun, we used to compete with other schools. When won a few tournaments.

[@dreamspinner3mn]

I had one of those digital typewriters that I bought brand new in the late 1980s, Smith Corona brand. Cutting edge technology back then. I loved it.

[@DJSekuHusky]

My dad had one of those; also Smith Corona, but it had a flip up blue-bar screen (almost like a laptop screen) and it had the ability to save to 3.5" diskettes as well. The screen was about the size of 1/3 of a sheet of paper, and you could type to the buffer onboard and format your document with the display, then print afterward like a computer... only rapidly-hammering at a print-wheel like _Gatling gun_ style, rather than passing a nozzle back and forth like your typical inkjet printer. I got myself a thrifted Swintec 2410cc that I still use every now and then; I only got it because of the cool-looking crystal case (the "cc" version is see-through since it's meant for prisons, lol).

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

@20:15 that’s the perfect system for a kid. PS3 and up are good enough for our kids to start at. Hell they be lucky they don’t start on a saga a nes. Some do. But $30 for a decent console that can be loaded with kids movies and play plenty of games that kids love yeah that’s a HUGE freaking win!

[@bobothn]

The head on the type writer are swapables. They were designed so you could have different fonts. So you could get it working with a new head for a few bucks.

[@zebraloverbridget]

An extra goodwill tip: if an item is put up/ out for sale and it doesn't sell at the price they set after a month you can mention it/ ask about it and they can lower the price on the item. That is how I got a basically brand new towel warmer that they marked at $200 originally for only I think $40 or less. It was a while ago so I could be off on the price but it was a steal and I'm so glad an employee mentioned that they could do that when I originally saw it and mentioned wanting it This tip is more helpful in areas where good stuff stays around longer in the store and might not be possible at all locations or certain employees might not be able to reprice an item for you so don't be rude and demand that they have to do it. Also don't ask them to do it when there is a long line for the register and the store is busy

[@readycheddar]

Just so everyone is aware, the xbox 360 NEEDS a harddrive for OG xbox backwards compatibility. Learned that the hard way when I bought a 4gb slim 360 back in the day.

[@sp1977]

15:05 OMG, my roommate in college had this thing. I didn't even know he had it until the day before finals and he was desperate to get a paper done. He was going to drag his desk out into the hallway, so the light wouldn't disturb me. I told him if he could handle my snoring then I could handle the light. When my alarm went off in the morning, he must have finished minutes before because the light was out and he was in bed, but my glow-in-the-dark stuff was still glowing bright.

[@bankz724]

Goodwill SUCKS now, alot of people might not know but almost everything even remotely good doesn't go in stores anymore they ship it to be sold online for ebay prices. Finding a deal at goodwill is near impossible these days, not to mention its now cheaper to go to a store like TJMaxx or ROSS and get new clothing.

[@McNetDeck]

Junkyards suck too. Everyone just price matches these days. It's stuff that was donated, it should be cheaper!

[@njones621]

Yep I find a lot of good deals on their auction site. And if you win an auction at your local goodwill you can pick it up and not pay shipping 😂

[@hartlas]

​@njones621 yeah it seems like not a while lot of people know about the goodwill auction site. Definitely some awesome deals to be had on there, even with the overpriced shipping lol

[@SeanSMST]

In my country we have charities like SVP and many others that setup charity shops as ways to get donations in. The great thing with them is they never price match. My friend found a copy of HL1 and the orange box respectively at the same charity shop. I'm a city kid so when I moved to a town for college, I was enlightened with buying all your clothes, rings, etc at charity shops. The fits half the students have is just from them.

[@SeanSMST]

I'd say just look for independent thrift stores for the deals. If you trust chains with having bargains all the time, you put your trust in a false icon.

[@Postinit]

12:30 this is diabolical work 😭

[@MiamiGameHunter]

The last time I made a good retro gaming haul at Goodwill was 2017. I still remember, it was a red DS lite case that had the DS inside with a stack of GBA games including Pokemon Ruby. Got it for $7. Haven't seen anything games at Goodwill since. The days when stacks of retro games were on the DVD shelves are loooooong gone.

[@cadenchurchill4296]

That section with the baby was hilarious! Such a strange game... 😂🤣

[@jbstillman]

I wish we had one of these in our area. I got to visit one of the Goodwill computer/game stores in Tallahassee, FL, it was really cool. So much good stuff gets sent there!

[@LinoBarraza]

I remember before ddr became big in the states, I found it on ebay for $100 and 2 Matt's for ps. Me and my friends would be up all night trying to compete with each other. Now I'd probably break a hip. 🙃

[@deathwalkrecordings1318]

Mac tech here: Those old iMacs are touchy and weird. If everything else seems to be okay (seeing as it does boot with a new install) we can rule out ram since you upgraded. Put the old ram back in, and downgrade to snow leopard or a variance of it around that time. What most don’t realize is that high seirra back logs a crap ton of updates that can overload the older CPUs in older iMacs. Try the old RAM, and run snow leopard. If it doesnt work from there, it’s a board issue. Probably a small cap or connector, old dust and sitting can cause them to swell and leak.

[@freezingcathedral]

I have an iMac mini that needs High Sierra. Should I just do Snow Leopard?

[@valramos2003]

​@@freezingcathedral Consider installing the latest official OS for your machine and then upgrade to Ventura using tht OCLP method.

[@pruitt818]

it looks like they have so much fun at work 😂 i love it

[@moongurd20]

I had an I7- 4790k on my first "monster" pc 10 years ago xD

[@TheZoenGaming]

Man, that PC makes me think of my old gaming rig from 2014 with a 4690K paired with a GTX 970. I rocked that thing until I bought a 6700K in January after Christmas 2017 when prices were dropping because of the 7700K. Interesting to think that companies used to produce a product until demand died instead of just discontinuing a product when the newer model comes out.

[@JtotheD1]

15:20 I learned to type on one of those, and if you push down on the left side and drag your hand across as many keys as you can, it should type up an automated message.

[@Punisher6791]

usually its the little black rubber band that goes bad in the OG Xbox's cd drive mechanism, you can still buy the rubber bands for them and replace them. if you do own a og xbox and its an older system revision i recommend removing the clock capacitor from the motherboard as these are ticking time bombs and can leak all over the motherboard and cause corrosion damage. only early revision xboxs have this issue and it was fixed in a later revision, you will just have to find out which revision they fixed it on as i dont remember which one it was.

[@Thatfunnyguyonyoutube]

Yay another post from favorite 5 ft 2 tech youtuber

[@Larv6464]

15:27 I still use one of those at least once every year! 😂

[@Jmwoodbury17]

Surprised you don't know about the manual disk drive eject on the PS2 like the old cd roms have. OG Xbox has one also. One more thing I noticed, start trying both blue bottom discs and silver bottom discs when testing ps2 games. Sometimes those old PS2's just stop reading any blue bottom. It was a problem we used to run into when I worked at a local game store. We had to start always testing both to ensure it worked fully.

[@XIIFangv2]

Isn't there also a yellow and reddish bottoms on the PS2 discs as well?

[@stevenmeza9791]

The ps2 game not ejecting brought back tons of memories, lol. When my ps2 stopped ejecting games, I had a nail file sticking out of the disc drive. I would push it in, and up so it would eject my game

[@Rober-zo8fv]

This dude has the best goodwill in the world. Mine never has gaming stuff

[@TheAchillesShield]

I had the Marvel Ultimate Alliance/Forza bundle. It came with the 360 at one point. When they actually bundled decent games, not to mention more than one, with new consoles.

[@ryangranada2814]

20:43 when you're trying to blow out the last candle that's actually a trick candle.😅

[@Treychik]

My father had this digital typewriter....probably the exact same model. p.s. FAT PS3s usually ARE quiet until they hit something over 80 THEN they blast their fan 100% and it won't be THAT quiet anymore, thus CUSTOM firmware is a must with software to set fan speeds to 35-40 depending on your room temps

[@EdHadder]

I Love Austin Evans Videos 💙✌🏻

[@rollingtroll]

Typewriter; 20 bucks is a lot for one of these even fully functional, but it uses a daisywheel and you can get those and replace it. They are actually kinda cool. You type on the display, usually 12 characters, and when the display is ful the first character gets printed. So you have 12 characters to correct a typo in. Pretty smart.

[@JustinvEmst]

I always love the goodwill video’s ❤️

[@calebjager]

There’s a goodwill outlet store near me and all I ever find is some really cheap toys and vhs tape😂

[@realZyphyr]

Probably because they live in Los Angeles which is one of the biggest cities in the entire US.

[@Funkymonkeymemes]

Goodwill outlet is all the stuff they didn't sell at goodwill

[@bankz724]

Goodwill SUCKS now, alot of people might not know but almost everything even remotely good doesn't go in stores anymore they ship it to be sold online for ebay prices. Finding a deal at goodwill is near impossible these days, not to mention its now cheaper to go to a store like TJMaxx or ROSS and get new clothing.

[@Symbiiote]

My goodwill stores NEVER have games.

[@AustinMichael]

Goodwill is smart these days. It's easy to find the value of things so they send all the good stuff to their online auction site.

[@jessegoogle3349]

I just bought a 2010 iMac fully working for only 25 euros

[@kameroshiso]

For the iMac you can install the OS on an external drive then boot it from external SSD

[@michaelzapata4862]

Please keep in mind that each region is run as separate organizations under the goodwill umbrella. And each one prices and uses the profits differently. This area of California is going to be wildly different than Texas. Texas is even separated into 5 separate organizations

[@aaronhopkins7354]

20:55 - I have that HP PC in my closet. It was from 2015. :)

[@iversam]

I don’t ever want to hear an Austin Evans video where they say “let’s measure it next time” 😂😂😂😅

[@ZachAttacksTech]

7:13 LMFAO 😂😅 I miss thoes things

[@apoliox6747]

😭🙏🏻

[@psychorabbitt]

I appreciate Austin putting out an actual video rather than a "best of 2024" like seemingly every other channel I subscribe to.

[@EdHadder]

Great Video Austin 😀

[@PurpleKnightmare]

That water cooler is way past it's life. LOL 980 not bad.

[@cpljimmyneutron]

Those joystick consoles can be a great find... check with Ben Heck, but he found one of them was a perfect hardware match for the original NES, and used it to make his handheld console that plays full size NES cartridges.

[@zachharvey7698]

The Mac I had the same issue and spent months on it for a client repair. You need the original os that Apple has discontinued. If you find someone with it, you’ll then need a M1 Mac to partition the usb stick and install the media. It’s a headache

[@steveruta3248]

i had what must have been one of the earliest versions of a plug and play in the early 90's. it was a very basic childrens game where you could make pictures with clip art shapes and stuff. the device was a flat ipad shaped thing and you used a stylus to manipulate what was happening on screen by tapping and dragging the stylus along the plain white surface/pad in your lap. would be cool to see one of those again.

[@steveruta3248]

it was very similar to a SEGA Pico but it was definitely all grey and i dont think it had a cover flap unless i broke that off.

[@Budicles]

the 2500 brings back memories of my 655k 3.2 that I had overclocked daily for 4 years at 191 front speed bus with out errors...... God I miss that hot rod chip.

[@shakymctwitch8615]

Goodwill is greed incarnate. Everything they sell is donated yet they ask retail prices or near retail. A large portion of their workforce is paid poorly and in general, the stores are unkempt and hazardous. I love going to my local goodwill store and seeing 2.5 inch 250GB 5400 rpm hard drives for $10, drives they pulled from donated laptops they then place on the shelf as "untested" and ask $40 per. F Goodwill.

[@purplereign186]

Everybody knows the BEST part of new Macs, MacBooks and old Macs and MacBooks is they make absolutely PERFECT paperweights

[@iCancelFlights]

Love the OG Forza and Forza 2. I actually have one of the in-game cars IRL. the Tommy Kaira M20b

[@NeoTanner]

Too bad a Goodwill Computer Works isn't near me. My local Goodwills never have anything interesting for tech. :(

[@bankz724]

its because goodwill isnt for giving people a deal anymore, they will take what is donated from your local community and instead of keeping it around there like people think they ship it off to sell online for ebay prices. More people need to know this and not support goodwill

[@skywarrior1004]

Not worth it mate, the one near me is more expensive than eBay

[@palashverma4235]

I believe Alex and Joanna should host one of these mystery tech videos... It would be fun 😁

[@SaulGreatorixMusic]

You need to invest in a Composite AV to HDMI Adapter for old school console testing. They cost less than $20. They need power but mine is hooked up to one of the USB ports on my Wii.

[@Xn7000]

I was running games on a 4790k up until a couple months ago and with a GTX 970 until maybe, two years ago. It's a perfectly good gaming set up as long as you don't need modern features.

[@AceMcCrank]

On the iMac, you need to get a *physical copy* of Leopard and upgrade from there. I had to go through the same thing myself. Sidenote, the HDDs that came with the old iMac had temperature sensors that communicated to the system fans, which means that without the sensor, they ramp to full power. There are apps that can manage that manually. Or, you know, install Linux on the thing.

[@DG_427]

That 4790K is a killer CPU. I got it around 1 year after it's release, I only swapped couple of years ago. It's amazing how damn good CPU it was.

[@KingJojoB]

Goodwill actually has a lot of good stuff, you’ll find cheap gaming stuff easy

[@ArkBros77]

KingJojoB 😮😮😮

[@Taco117.]

Depending on where you live some places don't even carry games or anything like that they send it to the distribution center instead

[@bankz724]

Not at all, most goodwills now take from your local community to sell it online for ebay prices.

[@Taco117.]

@@bankz724 this ! They also have the good will finds Website

[@OlShaky]

Goodwill's around here just have old people clothes. I didn't even know what a Goodwill Computer Works was until I saw this video

[@JosephLicka]

Dude I had that Disney plug and play as a kid! These were basically what I played until I got a Wii 😂

[@thedealer799]

Fun fact: I typed my highschool essays on a similar brother type writer. Pretty cool unit with erase feature. You could pre type sentences press a button and it would type it automatically.

[@kendiggy]

Nice! I think NCAA 12 was one of the better ones before they lost the contract after 14!

[@TruRacer]

Forza Motorsport 2 is 1 of most slept on great racing games IMO

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

Omg.. I SOOOO wish we had something like this around my area..

[@sanitary_cloak8282]

I didn't know goodwill have games, I should check this out.

[@C_C-]

The problem with old DVD drives is the laser lens is plastic and it yellows like old headlights..

[@MrBooyahmofo]

They will actually accept returns on items sold as broken. So return all of it!

[@x2SIKx4ux]

If I remember correctly there may be a manual eject hole on the side or back of the ps2

[@carlkromer1601]

By the way. Those Scholarships they offer usually goes to some employees kid or relatives... Be my guest and go look in to it.. just make sure you dig well because it's hidden deeply. But you will find the information i speak of.

[@samybasile]

Ken is surprised about the Marvel Alliance and Forza combo? I had for my 2nd gen 360 lego batman/ Pure (quad racing game....superfun wish there was something like it nowadays)

[@bamstheman]

I remember having ninjabread man and some anubis game and they were the same game just reskinned. Great time to be alive haha Still played both games

[@Blackfire.]

That suisei dodgers fit 💙

[@ItsTheCostanza]

Regular Goodwill stores never carry consoles.

[@RenegadePandaZ]

They absolutely do, I got a very nice, working PS2 from one of mine. I've seen plenty of Wii's, 360's etc too.

[@bankz724]

​@@RenegadePandaZ They dont its because goodwill isnt for giving people a deal anymore, they will take what is donated from your local community and instead of keeping it local like people think, they ship it off to sell online for ebay prices. More people need to know this and not support goodwill

[@carlkromer1601]

Yes they do and up until recent they did. But now they found they can rip people off easier online than in person where you can physically inspect the item. They been scamming now for a while. The real decent quality stuff goes to the heads and they dole out what they want first to others for cash or whatever. complete nepotism on the citizens good will.

[@matthewbarbato561]

@@bankz724 Not to go too deep into Goodwill's business structure, there are different regional groups that run stores throughout the country with different logos and policies. My local stores don't sell online and have different levels of store starting with Goodwill GoodThreads which is handpicked high end clothing down to clearances centers where everything is 99 cents and thrown in bins. Today they were loading up everything with a blue label at one store to bring to the clearance center.

[@aroundtheblockwithbrock4799]

@@bankz724I for one work at my local thrift store and it’s the best wayyyyy better than goodwill plus I hit a couple iPods from working there and I also hit a original NES also it’s the best 😃

[@carrottop3822]

I had found a box at goodwill with a PS2 inside that was 20$ it came with all the hook ups, a silver controller and a few loose games (GTA Liberty city, need for speed most wanted and Madden 05) but the best part was it also had a limited edition game freak PS2 controller and it's like some skeleton samurai.Oh and also a network adapter. But that was over a year ago and im still playing it to this day

[@maniak6001]

I once had this exact same problem happen with a MacBook I accidentally deleted’s operating system off of & bricked of mine. This issue kept occurring while specifically when trying to install High Sierra on it. I figured maybe since it was the LATEST up to date version OS it could be natively supported by, I should try installing the OLDEST version of the OS the MacBook had originally shipped with. Upon doing so everything worked, and I could then proceed to download a more up to date operating system once I had installed any previous OS to the Mac. Hope this helps.

[@MSUHitman]

4:03 That was the first 360 holiday bundle game in new systems promo in either 2007 or 2008.

[@beaunardo7084]

you should do a video either on the flipper zero or the esp32 marauder

[@Mattscreative]

where was the shopping? why would you cut out the best part

[@NotoBones]

Thats crazy i used to work at that computer works store

[@Compman007]

HOLYCRAP You found a P8P67 :O I killed a P8P67 Deluxe eons ago and I loved it! and wanted to find a new one for ages, I still have my i7 2600 waiting for a new home someday! Dang thats a lucky find! Very nice looking board!

[@tim3172]

Forza 2 and Marvel shipped as a bundle with my 20GB 360. I think it was the supposedly-fixed "Jasper" release... that subsequently RRODed.

[@Joedad000]

love the goodwill vids.

[@ItzJug]

That Scrooge game is low key 🔥

[@radugrigoras]

That iMac is probably too old for ssd. I remember around that time even on windows you needed to make a USB with the driver and hit F6 at the drive selection to get it to work. Try a 2.5” laptop hdd, will most likely work.

[@dalemau5]

With how many times people just break stuff and walk away at all the Goodwills I’ve been to, I would not be surprised if that typewriter was in working condition before someone messed with it and broke it lol

[@SaulGreatorixMusic]

Man I wish there was something like Good Will Tech in Australia, Some OP shops (What we call charity shops) don't even accept ANY type of tech anymore, at least they don't in my area. They say it's because of legalities with untested items BUT still most are happy to accept appliance donations which we all know can cause much more damage if not tested properly. Go figure.

[@nikket8796]

install the mac os on an external drive and see if you can boot the computer from that, if that boots there is something working with the HDD cables in the computer

[@MrRainfaller]

5:27 because you don’t 😂

[@nickmaddern7545]

Will they ever manage to put a small projector on a smart phone 😂. I’d love to see it 👌🤔

[@gradebrigade]

I think Goodwill saw Austin coming, I just bought last week a Brand New Asrock Phantom Gaming Radeon RX570 8GB for $6 Still has the plastic on it

[@DonaldBaysII]

The Forza and Marvel Alliance was a game bundle with new Holiday 2007 Bundle systems.

[@Fluffy_Soft_Pink_Bear]

I still own a PS2 Slim and still works with no scratches but have not played with it in a long time

[@Dany2001bro]

12:27 AYEEEE YOOOO 💀💀💀💀

[@yodawon1373]

i literally bought a fully backwards compat PS3 from goodwill for 100 bucks few scratches had it on for like 8 hours straight no issue but fan is loud AF and gonna do the maintenance of changing thermal paste and pads and no one opened it Warranty still on it nothing tampered

[@gamechamp19]

I'm disappointed Austins "fixes" to bad disk drives was to immediately go to a backwards compatible system.

[@fluffehgamer4712]

Theres a screw under one of the bottom covers to manually pop out the drive i think if needed

[@XxCorey117xX]

You can sell that NCAA game for $10-15. Paid for half the console itself lol