Australia House passes teen social media ban

[@dl9921]

Social media has done more harm than good to society.

[@Platoface]

No, bots and instigators have done serious harm. We flesh and blood adults can figure it out. We always have.

[@dodgeguyz]

The internet has done more harm than good to society. Sorry, I had to fix that for you!

[@mitchellty]

I agree. The technology is cool but without a way to effectively moderate it it becomes a danger

[@JohnSmith-ti9uq]

Yeah but Australia is only doing this so that their commE education system can have full control over the minds of youth.

[@Kloutkulture]

ESPECIALLY in AMERICA

[@cv6442]

This better include the children forced to be a part of "family channels."

[@user-sc9oc5xi7q]

Omg yes! I hope so

[@anibalrivera8463]

This is awesome! 👏🏻 Damn Australia is leading the way for better adjusted members of its society. Social media’s influence in children cannot be understated. Good for you Aussies! Well done!

[@CrabFiles]

Ya, fascists all think alike... First they take away the arms, then free speech, finally they dictate how you can live, who can live, and the morality which you must live by...

[@guardian7773]

Okay now let’s do it in the US too

[@user-sc9oc5xi7q]

Yup! 👏

[@brendyn3101]

Yes!

[@Toxictherapyink]

Wow i actually agree with a law being passed an its not even my country 🤦

[@bobxxxl]

they will need id for social media that's dangerous

[@jordanjay1479]

It's crazy how that government isn't forcing social media companies to ban sex offenders and pedos. It seems like they have the power to do that also.

[@kkelly2799]

"parents" ALWAYS think they know best ... they don't

[@Toxictherapyink]

@@kkelly2799 I agree in a way ,but neither does our government 🤷. In the end right an wrong is in the eye of the beholder . But I hate social medial 🤣🤣 so I completely agree with this action . I think adults should be limited to so we can get some work done around here .

[@digitalhippie2336]

That's cause you have no life 😂

[@RaycerX19]

We need this in all western countries. Parents have failed and the damage is irrefutable.

[@JohnSmith-ti9uq]

Sure but you also need to fix the education system. Australia govt is only doing this for control. They're going to allow certain sites but ban ones like X.

[@eb9520]

Parents have failed because they are glued to social media.

[@Gary-z5y]

And you think the govt is going to do better than the parents?

[@justkiddin84]

All countries, really

[@justkiddin84]

@@Gary-z5y ‘the government’ is doing better in this case. No child should be online without direct supervision and the social media aspect of is the worst part. Wikipedia has ACTUAL porn on it. Parents stupidly handing kids phones without any blocking tech, supervision, etc has opened those children to horrific abuse compounded by the neglect of their ‘parents.’ So yeah.

[@SickRickGaming]

I hate alot of Australian Law, but we need this in The United States

[@TotalWater-d2o]

Eliminating online anonymity under the pretense of 'enabling spineless parents to continue being spineless' ? You dont need this, you just need some balls.

[@conr2141]

​@@TotalWater-d2o Well they got a 250k median wealth.. 2.5 times higher than the US.. They're doing something better, that's for sure.

[@gamerprestige7240]

Tik tok and other social media is pure brain rot. Watching my sister get Ipads and cellphones for her 6 and 9 or old kids was sad. I knew right away they were going to get hooked. There's not a moment they aren't glued to that thing watching 30 second clips on loops....they can't even put a simple lego set together because they get bored after a minute. Instant gratification, constant dopamine hit, and addictive gaming is all they know. Dont need the government to fix this you need better parenting.

[@leveljoe]

​@conr2141 Yeah, but there's also more people living in Texas than Australia. They haven't exactly scaled up to make a fair comparison. There is a lot of resources in relatively few hands...

[@thomasjgour4678]

You sound like a liberal

[@luciusblackwood2640]

I support this. I bought my daughter a flip phone with no internet access because I don't want her in that world.

[@bluemoon2675]

@@luciusblackwood2640 That's great! Called good parenting. A parental decision not government overreach. Are they going to put kids in juvenile hall for this? Parents in prison? What about television? Have you seen some of those commercials? Not to mention some of the shows themselves ! Parents need to make this call not your government.

[@dog7881]

Good.

[@luciusblackwood2640]

@@bluemoon2675 Unfortunately they are not doing it. If we can have R rated movies or alcohol, tobacco laws then this isn't really much different.

[@TAZEROXFORD]

@@luciusblackwood2640you are so dumb it actually hurts. If you think an r rated movie is anywhere near having access to the internet where you can look up gore compilation then you are actually too stupid to live

[@mattbarker1411]

You support government over reach? Lol

[@H20Caveman]

Children under 16 should have no access to cell phones

[@bulletdozerx9954]

Well done Australia! I hope our British government does the same because so many of our teenagers have taken their own lives through online bullying. Unfortunately too many of our MP’s are in the pockets of social media firms. This is the start of decent people fighting back 👏👏👏

[@sudilos1172]

My niece was totally destroyed by social media and her parents almost lost her over the trouble it got her into. because its their fault for leaving her run wild with it.

[@user-sc9oc5xi7q]

That's so heart breaking to hear, i hope everything is okay and doesn't happen again ❤

[@justkiddin84]

I hope your niece is doing better.❤

[@erikad0511]

Good for them... I don't see how this could be anything But beneficial for all children...

[@justinluc2572]

There will be extreme outrage at first, but once people realize that social media is toxic, things will calm down.

[@JC-tq8gm]

The problem is everyone knows it is toxic and no parent will do anything about it because they don't want to fight the battle. Believe me, I went through this with a step child and his mother who just wouldn't be the "uncool" mom that didn't allow her kid to have a cell phone. He constantly got in trouble with it but that didn't sway her.

[@GerardoUmi]

Good. Drain social media until its dust

[@ThyAnarchist87]

You know KZbin is social media?

[@GerardoUmi]

@ThyAnarchist87 all they have to do is remove the comments

[@MH-bw9zt]

@@GerardoUmi But why wait for them to do so? Why not stop using it on principle?

[@luciusblackwood2640]

@@ThyAnarchist87 I don't consider youtube to be social media as conversations are short and not shareable.

[@sky_pirate]

@GerardoUmi No, you need to keep comments for the same reason you're entitled to observe cases of a free justice system. Removing transparency is ultimately what leads to an exercise in corruption and suppression. That's why we openly discuss horrible things our governments did in secret, but other nations must play The Emperor's New Clothes.

[@a4h4a4]

I like to see where this goes I got kids and I always want to protect them

[@JC-tq8gm]

So, have you taken their cell phones away before the law? You don't need a politician to tell you how to protect your children, you just need to not hand them the poison in the first place.

[@akoww1000]

I think it should be 17 and under. The US should have passed a law like this years ago, we have the biggest problem with underage kids online

[@UncleRich-yt]

Social media have done a number of harm and damage to the everyday people surfing the web platforms; Especially on kids under 15 years of age.

[@coreystreberger9000]

Where are the parents? Why is it everyones responsibility but the parents to raise their children?

[@craigpridemore7566]

Exactly!

[@TechInfo-ul4xr]

😂​@@craigpridemore7566😂parents ate on socail media dating or any other immoral acts..leave kids out of it😊

[@TotalWater-d2o]

Parents are spineless and legally prohibited from properly disciplining their children. Government hates online anonymity.

[@JuJuForexTrades]

AMEN!

[@Azazel2024]

Exactly

[@DavidLS1]

Kids are creative. They'll find a way around the ban.

[@falstroemeria]

Still important to have one. "Banning" alcohol does not 100% stop underage drinking. But we can all agree it is a necessary law.

[@2stoves1]

Of course. Just like they do with cigarettes and alcohol. It doesn't mean the restriction is ill-advised though.

[@Cpt-mz5qo]

Youre a clown , what are they gonna sneak social media in the closet

[@TotalWater-d2o]

@@falstroemeria *"Still important to have one"* - No. Not when it comes at the expense of online free speech by destroying online anonymity.

[@dog7881]

Yep that’s true for literally every law. Laws are still effective.

[@Valco458]

Bravo 🎉. Finally someone has the stones to say ENOUGH.. Good on you all 🤗🇺🇸

[@angelcabeza6464]

Really so it's ok to have kids and not raise them typical American upbringing

[@kkelly2799]

"parents" ALWAYS think they know best ... they don't

[@Valco458]

@@kkelly2799 Don’t choke on the TidePods before you finish your pronouns 😂

[@isege-wo7bm]

That’s actually a worthy law. I see too many young people soaked in instagrams and tik toks like their brain is soaked and not able to function without them. Much needed in USA

[@Edward_Gray]

We need this all over the world!!

[@CrabFiles]

Ya, you commies all think alike.... International conspiracies to control the people...

[@59plexi]

todays youth dont know anything but social media BS

[@retirednavychief6983]

RIGHT ON AUSTRALIA! It's good to know someone on this planet has a reasonable and responsible government.

[@xXOttoSaurusXx]

This can help prevent cyber bulling and decrease depression in young children who don't know how to control their emotions yet. As well protect children's privacy as in most places if the child is below 18 or 16 they cants sign any valid contracts but most social media platforms requires it not realizing its voided anyways

[@MiamiPush2theLimit]

I literally just got a friend request from my 13 year old niece on Facebook. I’m so disgusted with her dumbass parents.

[@julieschoolcraft1503]

Need desperately to do this in the U.S.

[@richieuhh85]

I support this for sure!

[@TotalWater-d2o]

It's an anti-free speech ploy to force you to give up your online anonymity.

[@anthonythomas1504]

Move to China for sure!

[@Francis-m2d]

@@TotalWater-d2o Free speech is not absolute. And as adults we are supposed to be finding ways to protect children. You have a better idea, let's hear it.

[@rajesh.x]

Very good 👍👍

[@BAlex-xp2nm]

Excellent!

[@handynothandsome261]

*”The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal; well-meaning, but without understanding.”* *- Former US Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis*

[@skyeiv8471]

Oh yes, the liberty of children. Why do we prevent coarse language from being freely used on television, anyway? Doesn't everyone know that such censorship will eventually lead to us no longer having free speech!? The same goes for not being allowed to swear in school: they've already been enslaving us for decades! If I want to shout "Fire!" in a crowded movie theatre, then that's my right! Anybody who tries to prosecute me for it is an authoritarian who's attacking my freedom of speech! I should be able to publish negative things about someone that I know are lies, because that's freedom, baby! Anybody who tries to stop me from falsely denigrating someone's character is hurting me more than I'm hurting them!

[@justkiddin84]

Does not apply here. We have seen the harm it does to kids. Go pander something else.

[@slim420-e8v]

The keyboard warriors are going to be pissed if this goes to America.

[@Al-Rudigor]

The US is too money hungry for this to happen. Especially since every single politician is for sale. That's red or blue.

[@erikad0511]

They were already talking about something similar in Florida ...

[@tonyparete6892]

Keyboard warriors FUNNIE

[@justkiddin84]

No, the PDAfiles will be pissed. Granted, many are the same things, but I fail to see why anyone else would object to children not being on social media.

[@slim420-e8v]

@@justkiddin84 It's because the only way to enforce that law is to ID everyone and Keyboard warriors don't want that.

[@iceybbg1229]

THATS GOOD THESE KIDS NEED TO BE IN THESE BOOKS AND GETTING A HIGHER EDUCATION 🥳🥳🥳

[@JayneEthereal]

Hell yeah!

[@foxiwyld]

Yes Australia! Please pave the way!!

[@virginianance4051]

Finally people with good sense. Way to go Australia!!

[@DavidLS1]

Their 1996 gun law reforms were also good sense. Our gun death rate is thirty three times higher than Australia's.

[@kkelly2799]

"parents" ALWAYS think they know best ... they don't ... If you keep expecting parents to raise their children better then the world will NEVER improve

[@anthonythomas1504]

Move there if its so great.

[@anthonythomas1504]

​@@kkelly2799Oh PUHLEEZE. You kill babies.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

@@anthonythomas1504 You can't we're very picky on who gets into Australia, unlike the USA.

[@barkmaker]

So they can get "gender affirming care" but can't use social media. Lunacy level legendary.

[@sebw1515]

You know nothing about my identity, keep your mouth shut.

[@applesocks89]

Literally it doesn’t involve you at all so please shut up 🤫

[@TotalWater-d2o]

@@sebw1515 Well judging by your comment we now know that you hold delusional beliefs about gender XD

[@sam-gulch]

Say what you will, but the stats show that social media is harmful to mental health and gender affirming care helps mental health.

[@TotalWater-d2o]

@@applesocks89 Wrong, unfortunately I need to share a society with you loons.

[@johnmcdonah4232]

If they pass such a law in another country, and I was in charge of a platform, I’d withdraw ALL service for that country. So called adults included

[@AflacMan13]

Good. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

[@Kneumann1991]

Sounds like you're a child who's upset.

[@justkiddin84]

And you would lose billions of dollars instead of simply being responsible for your company’s actions. Why is it so important to you that children be available on line??

[@justkiddin84]

@@Kneumann1991Or something much worse.

[@AflacMan13]

@justkiddin84 Pedophiles always want children online and connected, so they can convince them to do things with them.

[@RandomCitizen-vl1wi]

How do you police this? Social media would need a picture of your ID then verify that with the government and make sure you’re “Allowed” to have an account? That’s a slippery slope.

[@arandomfawn5289]

Everyone gets a digital ID that’s how. Australia is just a prison mate. People have this delusions that’s it’s not because it has people that are nice

[@nathansanford9439]

You wouldn't police this. The social media companies would simply stop operating in the country at all due to the size of the fine being proposed.

[@MH-bw9zt]

Yes. And this law was proposed in the US by many conservatives who are among Trumps closest advisors, strategists and cabinet picks. Yall about to get what you wanted though so don't complain.

[@zelirislalibratum8637]

​@arandomfawn5289 way to talk out of your ass there. Do you know any Australians? Doesn't sound like it. I have family in SA I'm about to ask their opinions

[@aprildawnsunshine4326]

The way they used to do it was you had to enter a credit card number to verify your age. I'm not sure why that stopped being the norm

[@kimlarge4077]

How will that even be possible?

[@dougsholly9323]

Laws don't prevent crime,at least not directly. They enhance order in two ways. First, the penalty for committing a crime could be a deterrent for choosing to engage in the activity. Second, it provides penalties if you are caught. Basically, they can't stop it, but they can penalize you if they catch you. There will probably force social media to engage in age verification when new accounts are created. Then, they will monitor social media to identify content that may be added by someone underage.

[@jaynfontain6635]

It actually is not possible. Kids will still be on social media. There is no way to fully enforce it - but they can collect a bunch of money while proving me right.

[@dougsholly9323]

@jaynfontain6635 yes, kids will get on social media, and law enforcement will find posts on social media made by kids and prosecute them. That's how all laws work.

[@mattbarker1411]

​@dougsholly9323 it's not going to work. 😂😂😂😂 You can stop VPNs.

[@JC-tq8gm]

@@dougsholly9323 They will not prosecute the kids, they will go after their parents most likely for allowing it is my guess. That would be the most effective way to stop it. Most kids don't want to get their parents in big trouble, so if there were a few cases where that happened, the word would get around. Just saying, you can't do much to a child, but you can financially hurt an adult or worse depending how serious you are about the law and protecting kids.

[@Kneumann1991]

Good for Australia. Finally someone is doing something.

[@marekrossi9365]

They don’t want children to have access to real news.

[@tokyodusty]

I don’t see that working out…

[@AverageGenericN.O-Resident]

Upload picture i.d and social. I.D picture has to allign with live photo verification.

[@barkmaker]

@@AverageGenericN.O-Resident, very easy to fake.

[@TotalWater-d2o]

@@AverageGenericN.O-Resident So what you're saying is that you want to attack free speech by gutting online anonymity under the pretence of 'helping spineless parents remain spineless'

[@paulstandaert5709]

It is unfortunate that we apparently need the government to watch over our children.

[@anthonybrubaker7105]

This is something like when they introduced a brand new law years ago requiring seatbelts. I bet hindsight will show this is a good law.

[@eb9520]

@@anthonybrubaker7105 Well said.

[@leveljoe]

​@@anthonybrubaker7105so parents shouldn't need to supervise their children?

[@anthonybrubaker7105]

@@leveljoe The dangers of social media + children aren't fully understood by the public at large. Do you think a law keeping broken glass out of a park is a bad thing?

[@paulstandaert5709]

@@anthonybrubaker7105 Again, it is unfortunate that the government needs to take care of our children. Seat belts are no exception. There are too many parents out there who suck. Today, all you have to do is watch youtube videos (if they haven't gone away with the "graphic" content) of car accidents without seat belts and that alone will get people to wear them. And I haven't had to deal with it personally, but I guess these child safety seats for cars "expire" after a short while. What the F kind of bull crap is that? That is why I don't like the government and their lobbyists getting involved.

[@deniseslack7116]

I think this good

[@lewjames6688]

Name one good thing social media has done for our youth. Just one.

[@justiful9215]

What is the intent: To prevent children from being exposed to adult content or becoming victims of bullying or exploitation. What is the Outcome: Instead of using regulated social media platforms that comply with all local and country laws, they will use unregulated social media platforms that do not have any protections for minors or enforce any restrictions on illegal content. An example of this is the recent PHOTO and real ID requirement to view pornography websites in several US states. Tying content viewed/uploaded on mainstream adult sites like Pornhub directly to a real name and person. The result has been an over 200% increase in malware and viruses detected on computers in those States by Microsoft Defender. People went to unregulated websites and ended up with content they didn't want. Be that a virus or something worse. Inevitably this will also lead to a rise in various internet crimes. Like Bot nets, identity theft, and ransomware. ---------------- The intent of a law is only good in so far as outcomes are more beneficial for society with something than without it. The ban on social media will only push kids into darker areas of the internet. Same with bans on mainstream porn. Same with bans on free speech.

[@ggggloveking9419]

Ahh, someone who can see the whole forest, and not just one tree. Good analysis

[@Francis-m2d]

If you are suggesting we have no laws to protect people unless the law works 100% perfectly, all the time...we'd have virtually no laws at all.

[@ggggloveking9419]

@@Francis-m2d That's not the argument being made at all.

[@caiusoof]

You know how those teens are going to act when this is passed? They will go CRAZY, and this will not back down. They could also just use social media illegally, so at that point, what’s the point?

[@lgobi9649]

Unenforceable. Comcentrate on reducing energy costs.

[@justkiddin84]

Wow. Finally some smart people doing smart things. Kids should absolutely NOT be on either side of the social media camera. Well done, Australia!

[@BigLittleSmall1111]

How would this be enforced? Everyone gives TikTok a photo of their ID? No thanks.

[@FreedomForever2010]

I think that's a positive rule for Australia. It will be very interesting to see the data over the next few years.

[@Whyme266]

Protecting our kids is a must Adults need to step up Good Job Australia common sense as adults even we can be in danger by predators and we should protect our children from situations like that 👍♥️

[@robr.5044]

As much as I dislike the idea of young kids using social media, not sure that this is the best way to eliminate the problem.

[@MsNathaliabello]

I agree . It’s not going to work, kids will find ways around this

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

It's a brilliant way, they've put it on the social media companies themselves to verify users age and if they don't they get tens of millions of dollars in fines.

[@spracketskooch]

You have the wrong goals. The problem is never going to eliminated, it's about what works enough. I think the problem is severe enough to warrant giving this a try.

[@cousinles80]

​@@goodshipkaraboudjanits not possible for the social media companies to implement this. They will just block it entirely in the country. In the end that is what the government wants anyway.

[@dog7881]

@@MsNathaliabelloYeah people find ways around all laws. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have them in place.

[@Arenaviewer]

Bruh why is it never an immediate ban they take so long then it never happens remember they were gonna ban TikTok in U.S? I’m still waiting

[@bluemoon2675]

Why are bans needed? If you don't want your child on it , don't let them. It's called parenting. I didn't need a ban to stop my kids from drinking alcohol or smoking or having sex at age 12, why do I need this? I have to wonder how ( without gathering very personal information) they are going to do this and what is next? Who will have access to this information? Will it be sold? And to whom? Don't pretend that they "care" about your child.

[@falstroemeria]

@@bluemoon2675 But there is a ban to those things. Its called being illegal.

[@bluemoon2675]

@@falstroemeria Yes true. But what parents NEED to have a ban to know these things are harmful? The information needed about your kids to even attempt to enforce this is scary and dangerous. Who protects that information and who will they sell it to? And not all social media is harmful, who makes that call? Many more important things that government needs to be concerned with besides what your kid is watching. It's about control of parents and kids. Do we really want government this involved in private lives? Where will it end? What's next? I don't know about in Australia but in the US, our government doesn't have a good track record. We ran out of baby formula ffs, we feed our kids trash for school lunches, etc.

[@falstroemeria]

@@bluemoon2675 yup those are all legitimate concerns and obstacles that would need to be considered. To the first point, I would not be surprised in the west if there were and probably there are parents that would not know the harm alcohol was to kids without the law. Or even think is.. I think it comes down to the trolley problem. What problems are outweighing as far as harming society. As more and more p3do and s3x trafficking accounts occur it might be inevitable for the world to become more and more of a surveillance state

[@falstroemeria]

@@bluemoon2675 Not to shill, but someordinarygamers channel has gone into this a few times if interested. You might have to dig a bit but he brings up attention and garners conversation of this situation and the points you have brought up. Might interest you

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

I agree kids shouldn't use social media, but this law dumps all the responsibility on only one party. There should be some consequences for kids using social media. Demanding companies to prevent every sneaky kid from breaking the rules seems extreme and unfair.

[@wbae1340]

So I hate social media, but it’s annoying because things like this shouldn’t even be needed as the only reason why its become a problem is because of bad parenting. If you actually properly parent your kids, this problem goes away without needing a law…

[@fredericklockard3854]

I think the parents should do this. It’s all on the parents if they don’t control their kids social media exposure and content.

[@duckshoes5496]

America needs this. Theres too many predators online

[@jordanjay1479]

How about forcing social media companies to pay a million dollar fine to the federal government every time a predator commits a crime using their services?

[@anthonythomas1504]

Silly duck.

[@duckshoes5496]

@@jordanjay1479 that would be like punishing teachers for a school shooting. Plus theres waaay too much adult content for them to be exposed to.

[@christepus8604]

Nice!

[@baltimoreluke]

a ban? oh yeah, that'll work terrific. teens would never used something that banned for them.

[@wjb4578]

Sooo you have the government doing the parents' job, great win Aussies

[@gailphyillis539]

will they put a police in every house to in force that law hmmm .

[@billiey61]

they need to block gender reassignment surgery and puberty blockers for kids 16 and under along with that or it's just a waste

[@kyuremcjn8406]

This will keep pedo from “EVER” having to talk with teens I been saying this for long time we need this in America to pass a law where if you are 18 or under social media should not be allowed and also social media should start asking for ID number to confirm your age that way you don’t try finding ways to lie the system

[@DavidLS1]

Kids are creative. They'll find a way. Also, don't pedos _want_ to talk with teens?

[@Bry-Guy909]

All you would have to do is use someone else's ID.

[@72stones43]

Roller skating, I’m reading an 1886 book on George Washington, go build a house, make yourself as healthy as possible it helps our team, I learned early, I don’t destroy what’s good, that helps our community, big time cool, thanks.

[@jeremydavis308]

I 100% agree with this, but I think it should go up to 18 because social media is toxic. There is a young boy and my friends daughters class and fourth grade that killed himself over bullying online teenagers are no different social media is toxic. It’s disgustingpeople get away with saying the most heinous garbage to each other with no repercussions. I deleted all social media stuff since six years ago. I only use KZbin and it’s been great.

[@lisetteunk4961]

If you can't censor the content then ban access to the platform. 🤔 We dont want young minds possibly influenced by anything besides propoganda. How about letting parents decide on this one.

[@charlesbrundage7840]

Good luck.

[@grasshopper3817]

I can see this as a positive move as long as people pay attention as to what's being taught in school. Always easier to indoctrinate the youngest.

[@TotalWater-d2o]

Neat, so I guess VPN's are as mandatory in Australia as they are in China. Now that they've eliminated online anonymity I wonder when the social credit system will be introduced.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

You're upset Australia stood up to China and banned their spyware?

[@COZMOVRR]

you guys are mad that you cant turn social media into a adult thing

[@theexterminator1]

Good for Australia. Should be passed in U.S

[@erikad0511]

Agree but there would be a fight about "you can't tell me how to raise my kid...blah blah my freedom blah blah"...

[@JonChampaigne]

And that's why people are leaving and the US has elected a person who can't vote.

[@ggggloveking9419]

​@@erikad0511That's because the US views raising one's children as a fundamental right, which cannot be impeded upon lightly.

[@erikad0511]

@ggggloveking9419 sure ... a lot of these people are ready to d!e on the hill of "you can't tell me how to live", even if it's beneficial for the entire group with evidence to back it

[@locoloboxiii]

Never had an issue with Australia until now.... please for the love of everything... don't make that ban official. I can't go into the whys and hows... but if you ban the use of the most common form of communication before job age, then at job age, the kids will be so far behind the rest of the world in communication skills and be at a loss for some jobs that require said skills. Yes they could be taught, but this is against people who had been doing it since they could hold a phone.......

[@CrabFiles]

They take away the guns first, then free speech, then they control your habits....

[@nicholass3628]

It's TikTok's fault I can't parent my own child. LOL They should fine the parents not the social media companies.

[@sky_pirate]

You're dreaming. The only choice at this point is to create vetted & regulated competition in the marketspace so that you can justify banning the literal Trojan horses.

[@swetsTV]

Uh no it’s YOUR fault you can’t parent your own child. Take their phone away, discipline creates respect.

[@sky_pirate]

@swetsTV Discipline also crosses into tyranny at a certain point. Prohibition always crops up, and seriously, these apps are about as healthy for your brain as lead paint when made maliciously. You thought the methods slot machines pioneered would remain isolated to adult entertainment? Nope, literal governments are building backdoors into these things to spy on their own populace and sabotaging the youth of foreign countries. They know exactly how to get the results they want, and your simplistic "be a good parent" point of view is common sense that shows you drastically underestimate how dangerous these products are just from normal usage. It's not a question of what can we trust. The implications would cascade so heavily that you don't want anybody to have that chance. It's a cold war for soft power over domestic & foreign development that nobody is treating as such.

[@margaritadesantiago1672]

Wow how many of you are parents????? Or should I say actually parent ????? Because if you did then you would know that parents are smaller than the world. And in the U.S they won't allow you to discipline your kids or is disturbance of the peace to just argue

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

I'm fine with fining a Chinese spyware company.

[@BernardLimpet-qd8bk]

Good for you! As an adult, mymy... the internet really needs a rating like an R 👍

[@MayMay-qr1yc]

Why cant we just have a social media app meant for teens exclusively? It could be monitored to prevent bad trends and stuff but let the kids still connect with each other.

[@M0j0]

I don't think it would work. Theres creepy content even on KZbin kids. I genuinely think it's better for childrens mental health to stay off it until 16. Ive seen the damage it's done, the negatives out way the positives in my opinion. But I see where your coming from ✌️

[@Azazel2024]

Oh you 🤗. Grow up and you'll know why

[@bluemoon2675]

​@@Azazel2024 Exactly. "They" care.

[@fittslx]

The good ole days of just texting, making phone calls and actually hanging outside in the neighborhood with friends. The things we took advantage of.

[@gilni9064]

Shut the hell up. You dont make sense

[@scottthornton1122]

That's right and we need to do the same thing here in the United States

[@CrabFiles]

Ya, you fascists all think alike...

[@CorvusCorps]

Remember most of these comments are from the kids themselves!

[@l.k.1111]

Great. This will be good. It literally has made young people do CRAZY things for VIEWS, sometimes to the physical harm of them or their minds.

[@CyberFox232]

The law is not quite the first of its kind. The US has COPA, which sets the age minimum at 13. It should be higher though. At least 16.

[@lisatirkot7210]

lol good luck. Parents are not paying attention , are all busy and medicated.

[@ElonaldTrusk]

I totally approve of this... Kids need to be protected from their own stupidity.

[@CrabFiles]

Who protects the children from your stupidity?

[@ElonaldTrusk]

@CrabFiles you sound like youre upset about young teens being protected from online predators?? Why are you so emotionally invested in keeping little kids on apps with predators? Sounds suspicious....

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

Scary how many people are upset over this. Goes to show it's the right move when the predators are frustrated.

[@loner1295]

A more enforceable law to start with could be law against reposting any content of a minor and friending minors.

[@spracketskooch]

Potentially. The immediate problem there is you'd end up with kids being charged with crimes because they'd still have social media accounts, but not have the knowledge or control to not post themselves. That would also criminalize family members sharing photos of their kids with each other. Sometimes there are no good solutions, and you just have to make tradeoffs between unideal scenarios. Pick your poison is the old term.

[@100bulletsmiranda9]

no go ahead and fine them they failed to stop the mental hospital from giving me a steroid injection.

[@CloudsHill]

Wish they did that in US

[@Lochwra]

I wish that the US would do this. Social media and the department of education has ruined young minds in this country.

[@cristo6007]

You're a perfect example of why the "department of education" is desperately needed 🤦‍♂️

[@Lochwra]

@@cristo6007 and you are probably a perfect example of why it needs to go.

[@billycjustice]

I believe that’s the law in Florida too.

[@TurtleTarp]

I like that.... definitely needs to be passed...it's too much on the internet, hell I can't even stand it

[@59plexi]

good! lets go back to NO social media....just texting and calling

[@AdiraNatali119]

The Huberman Lab podcast discussed the harm social media has caused children and youth. Highly recommend watching it.

[@CrabFiles]

Maybe if you go suck off Huberman, you can become enlightened :P MUhahahhaa

[@ittoarataki347]

One of the good things that came out of Australia. Aside from Raygunn.

[@TotalWater-d2o]

and just like that a new generation of 4chan users is born.

[@youdontgnomie5197]

Ok, fine the companies... but what about the PARENTS who aren't monitoring their children's online activity and using parental controls to block access to age restricted content??

[@spracketskooch]

Pick your poison as they say. There are no good solutions here, other than unrealistic scenarios where parents have perfect knowledge of all of their kids activities and are responsible.

Prohibition never works and has more negative consequences than the original problem.

[@Francis-m2d]

So kids under the age of (pick a number) shouldn't be restricted regarding porn, drugs, alcohol, tobacco, et al?

@@Francis-m2d Well no. Not all. I see your point. But most of those are physical products that already have a limited appeal to kids, and already have heavy restrictions (yet kids do them sometimes anyway). Attempting to completely restrict something as easily accessible and highly popular as social media instead of letting parents do that is a nanny state, big government power grab that'll cause larger problems.

[@ygrittesnow1701]

Curious how exactly this will be implemented. Will this ban children from having cellphones too. Unlike in my day a phone isn't just for making calls. To keep a child off social media would literally require a total ban of modern smartphones to children.

[@CrabFiles]

They have to watch everyones internet usage :P

[@discoviolenza1984]

Why only instagram and TikTok? Do all social media platforms, including KZbin

[@ch1701a]

Dumb AF Law

[@hikingwiththedog6078]

I hope there's a better way to protect kids, but if there is, I can't think of it.

[@samtung83]

What are the penalties? I'm glad some people are making sense. SkyNews gets me laughing at their reports on "lefties losing it," so I had an inclination that Aussies were on target.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

The penalties are fines of social media companies if they don't properly verify the age of users.