Australia’s supposed transition to renewable energy an 'expensive failure’

Australia's supposed transition to renewable energy is a “failure and an expensive one” at that, says Sky News host Caleb Bond.
“There's nothing wrong with there being renewable energy in the mix so long as it is economically viable not just for the producer, but also the consumer,” he said.

[@jmcham1000]

It only needs one term for the Labor party to take Australia back to the stone age.

[@taniabriscoe6493]

Like Biden hey

[@schweppes59]

nah it's been 15 months since Albanese fell over the line & we're already fugged..

[@taniabriscoe6493]

@@schweppes59 well and truly

[@roydavis5613]

@jmcham1000 Like Biden and his morons in the US !!

[@peterrech2307]

@@taniabriscoe6493 Yep, the Democraps are equivalent to our Labor Liars Party.

[@darrenhughes4837]

Let's just be honest and call this corruption.

[@wyattfamily8997]

INCOMPETENCE personified.

[@johngeier8692]

It is delusional insanity which is being exploited by green carpet baggers.

[@Tyronepeader]

That's the News Corp we're all familiar with. 😮😊

[@yannip8460]

They are shooting for goals that are mathematically impossible and could never happen. It’s common sense

[@brenohighland1168]

just following america

[@infidel202]

​@@brenohighland1168the wef

[@derekgodfrey5]

maybe everyone should bill the Labour Party $275 per annum , then hit them up in small claims court for unpaid bills .

[@Jim-i4j]

😂😂😂😂 👍👍

[@hifivaliant8937]

Bette than that.... Don't trust what Labour politicians say and don't vote for them ever again

[@peterrech2307]

good idea but the Labor leaders would use Dan Andrews' favourite saying Ï don't recall anything", or his other favourite statement It's someone else's fault, not mine'. The Labor Party never take the blame for anything that the do or don't do.

[@robharris6874]

It's our money anyway!

[@rodhowellnetwork28]

The bill should be a lot more than $275! It should be $275, PLUS the increases incurred by us all since labour have started this renewable energy madness.

[@Ernst12]

By the time we have done this nine times over, then we start all over again because the life span of all this infrastructure, except for transmission lines, is only 20 years. The difference is that once we start the second cycle of deployment (and costs of course), all the old stuff is either put into landfill or stored somewhere and the CO2 emissions that were expended in China to make all this stuff, will have been wasted.

[@ZELJKO472]

20 years is a stretch too.

[@johncotton5561]

Not just power lines needed, also new substations and switching yards.

[@peterolsen9131]

in the case of solar MASSES of inverter banks to convert the dc to ac before the substations u mentioned with the rest of the pap required , monitoring/balancing equipment , all of which are hidden costs bowen is not discloosing/ being honest about but must surely know of, and he is using bogus figures on the "uptime" , 20% at best but he uses 27% in his models because that was a peak time and good for the model , plus one reactor will tun for 30 years without refuelling like in the submarines, 100 years with refuelling and maintenence/upgrades added as they are invented, this blows blackout boy's plan not only out of the water but out into space , dodgy models and crazy ideology cant fight real numbers, real world sucesses, the four to five times longevity , low maintenence for decades, the "waste" being a valuable resource for radio isotopic generators AND radio thermo electric generators, but valuable to combine with thorium to fuel a new generation of molten salt dedicated breeding reactors to make masses of new plutonium and uranium fuel for above mentioned power reactors as well as space colonization base reactors , for mars [ hi elon, i need a job by the way!~] the moon and space craft to get to all these places.. it makes sense to me to make the fuel in large central secure reactor facillities , [inside a mountain perhaps?] to fuel all other reactors everywnere just by fuel deliveries and the power reactors can be just "burners " only , removing the complexity and decreased efficiency of trying to "breed and burn" in situ or the massive fuel loads required for fast neutron reactors. if you use a molten salt pure burner design , you can have your cake and eat it too in that burn up rates of the fuel is almost 100% [ 96%?] including nasty transuranics that get all chomped up in the normal operation just like the fuel , [we can even separate these nasties from long lived waste[ thats why its "long lived" because of these trans uranics] from all earlier and existing reactors and throw in in to as fuel to rid ourselves of this stuff instead of waiting 10,000 years for each half of it to go away] further increasing out bottom line for this tech, the waste is not waste, its fuel, fission products that are useful all sorts of things medical and devices that make power for decades , and depleated uranium that can be made into more fuel in the big central reactor starting the cycle over again , this is ny vision for the future , who's with me?

[@infidel202]

​@peterolsen9131 sign me up 😊 can you please email your response to boofhead bowen, bandt and adophnessi. If you make a sign and want to stand on the lawn at parliament house while labor are attempting to lie to the Australian citizens I will join in

[@philipstallwood9813]

Albo is showing he is not capable of introducing anything that is beneficial or acceptable to Australians.

[@bobhebblewhite1685]

including the voice.

[@sgtbrown4273]

As an engineer I love it when adult children tell us what to do.

[@ZELJKO472]

Adult children like Greta and Albo. They know best

[@tomr6955]

People don't need to be engineers to know, but I agree. PS I'm an engineer, just not an electrical engineer.

[@ironmaidens6663]

You don't need to be an engineer to know that renewables cannot provide reliable power.

[@infidel202]

​@ZELJKO472 don't forget bowen

[@coal_man]

As a coal miner and coal investor... I love it...

[@hotwheels70]

Bowen wants to maintain his record of being an expensive failure.

[@ekka6560]

Bowen has a great idea he's about to announce.... FREE Solar panels for every household In Australia!!! oh sorry no, in the WORLD!!! Don't worry about the cables, we'll work that out later...

[@batmanlives6456]

Bowen has the IQ of a door knob Don’t worry about his credibility as the world’s biggest failure He’s right on target!

[@mikeymusic1]

That foul thing looks like a bush chook and should return back to the scrub from whence it came……

[@Tyronepeader]

Expensive failures don't come any more expensively than News Corp. Almost four billion dollars Australian to settle up the lies in US defamation cases. That's very expensive lying in anyone's book. 😮😊

[@Luum81]

$275 per year saved? About $5 a week? $20 a month? What an amazing offer! That's currently an extra 10 litres of fuel a month! Or just under two blocks of cheese from Woolies. Bargain!

[@Luke-pb9oz]

Yeah they are so far up them selves they think the peasants should be eternally grateful for a few crumbs, we've got the same problem in nz, I would like to see the lot of them doing a jig on the end of a rope, it's the only thing they will understand.

[@garrymoore2186]

Well that's no surprise it's been a complete failure everywhere it's been implemented.

[@turnerfamilyinozi]

Evidence please.

[@ocevicheband502]

Another failed socialist fascist disaster...... from TAVISTOCK/ Pilgrim Society.

[@jackfrost2146]

@@turnerfamilyinozi What rock have you been hiding under?

[@turnerfamilyinozi]

@@jackfrost2146 You can find out anything you like if you are game enough to use google? Are you?

[@garrymoore2186]

@@turnerfamilyinozi Why do you think the EU is now starting up their old coal fired generating plants?

[@danghannahdang]

I can't believe this scam is still going on all around the world.

[@turnerfamilyinozi]

Please tell, what is causing our current climate change?

[@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367]

Can't believe how many people distance themselves from grade 9 science.

[@saltyreesescup3104]

@turnerfamilyinozi It Is Summer. It's Hot. 😶🧂

[@russellcullen9913]

And when does common sense prevale?

[@paulveenings6861]

@@turnerfamilyinozinatural Earth cycle.

[@wyattfamily8997]

AGL announced that it will produce a record profits over the next 12 monthst, so why do they continually raise prices.

[@bretloyd8097]

Called GOUGING.

[@Luum81]

More profits.

[@ohasis8331]

I don't think Chris Bowen heard that $275 reduction mantra

[@japfourme381]

Absolutely!! We are only just realising this, here in the UK!!

[@kragf1802]

One of your American buddies here. I think the flippant, careless waste of tax dollars should be considered treason.

[@peterburke8650]

Inflation and interest rates are totally out of control now. Good luck .

[@666dualsport]

The worst government in Australian history

[@darronryan8483]

In my SEVENTY years of observation I say : ...... and then some ! .

[@frankmoore3433]

To paraphrase James Carville, "It's the ideology stupid" Economics and public welfare have nothing to do with it.

[@johnmu7034]

Just proves Politicians are clueless about the real world and have no idea what is really happening

[@ZELJKO472]

They are paid to do a job and it is not for Australians. Their donors and global interest groups, corporate stakeholders. They ain't working for Australians and stop kidding yourselves they are. They sold u all down the river long long time ago.

[@andrewdunne1609]

Its amazing to see how pathetically thick the Australian Government is when you watch this.

[@shoahkhan5670]

*Q.* How do you "renew" cobalt, copper, lithium _etc._ ?

[@Tom-dt4ic]

Forever. They're elements and don't decay. Unlike fossil fuels which burn once and are gone forever.

[@awc900]

Scrap this BS before many hundreds of billions are wasted for virtually no effect.

[@kanevparise]

They sold us out end of story 😊

[@ZELJKO472]

Kane That sums it up in quick sentence. Exactly.

[@lukeh321]

Renewable is a meaningless word. We need energy and lots of it. Time to go nuclear.

[@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367]

Nuclear energy is expensive to produce and is fraught with danger from both natural and man-made disasters.

[@raclark2730]

@@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367 Nuclear energy is evolving, unlike you rhetoric.

[@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367]

@raclark2730 does, Chernobyl, 3-mile island,Fukushima and Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plants-ring a bell?

[@Poorlineforeva]

Got a location for your reactor? Because there's no location for the waste thanks to the incompetence of Christian porter and the coalition government.

[@Poorlineforeva]

@@raclark2730 where can we buy one of these SMRs? Does one even exist anywhere in the world? Please enlighten us to the location and the cost of power per KW.

[@rickandersen707]

This Labor Gov is a BIG DISGRACE

[@patrickjohnson8741]

Why do we, the electorate vote them in??? Why are WE so stupid????

[@shanekay8278]

The Australians that voted them and the other weirdo lefties in are the bigger disgrace. Then again it's the brain washed students that are now old enough to vote that will be the majority voters. SO basically we are fked for years to come with them voting these tards into power.

[@bendenisereedy7865]

We installed ground source heating in our new build in Scotland. The equipment was expensive at around £30,000 but every three months the government gives us an incentive payment, which I can only assume is a bribe to us so that they can tick another box. I would have preferred a simple condensing gas boiler with a tank of LPG. In the UK the electricity grid is lagging years behind demand thanks to lack of investment by the owners of the utilities, who are more interested in monetising their investment with dividends and Director bonuses than in investing in the network. The grid is still set up to distribute power from a small number of large central power stations and in the meantime investors wishing to generate power through green sources, wind, solar, tidal, biomass are held back because the network can't connect them. In our Scottish glen the system is at its limit of capacity, it fails often and if every household bought an EV fuses would be blowing 50 miles away in Glasgow.

[@davidjohnpaul7558]

$30k??? 🤯🤯

[@elainehodge9415]

😢goes to show we need people with brains to run any country. Sadly the world only puts fools in that know absolutely nothing!!!

[@JohnWilliams-iw6oq]

Remember the days when WE owned the power generation and distribution network? Profits went into expanding and improving the system and there was enough profit to go into government coffers to help pay for health, education, roads and pensions. Remember when WE owned the telephone network and calls were cheaper, the equipment was amongst the best in the world and service was not a sit and take your turn in an hour's time affair. We could drive from one side of a city to the other without a single toll. All this was privatised to give us better services and cheaper prices. All the money that once went into our health and education and ..... is now going into the pockets of multinationals and we are now paying more taxes and higher prices to pick up the shortfall while our education system becomes an indoctrination of the young and health care which was the envy of the world becomes a hopeless train wreck. We've been lied to, used and abused and still we vote for the political parties that have done this to us. Looks like we are getting exactly what we deserve.

[@brenohighland1168]

well said johnno

[@elainehodge9415]

Those were the days before stupidity came!

[@Zeemutt01]

The whole thing is rubbish, sadly we have to pay for it!! Australian forests adsorb 940 million tonnes of carbon dioxide per annum compared to our domestic and industrial emissions of 417 million tonnes. Add to that the absorption of carbon dioxide in continental Australia to the carbon dioxide adsorption of 2,500,000 square kilometres of continental shelf waters and Australia sequesters some five times as much carbon dioxide as it emits.

[@NoNopeAndNo]

Politicians playing a rigged game of Monopoly with peoples lives. Bring on nuclear energy

[@mynamechanged]

LETS GO NUCLEAR

[@JamesBond-vn1gh]

Expensive failure Costly to the PEOPLE Would achieve unnoticeable trace of so call footprints.

[@turnerfamilyinozi]

Where do you get your information from?

[@peterbarnhoorn7879]

Tell me anyone who better off since Albo came to power ??? 😢..and it's going to get worse

[@user-rc4nw6xy5p]

There should be an inquiry into the solar power industry in Australia - in fact the whole green energy sector. As it is a mess between state and Federal governments all seeking the moral high ground over a issue that is lost in political lies. As everyone is racing to install solar - or wind turbines. And roof top solar on people's houses can be turned off automatically by your inverter responding to s signal if the electricity in your street goes above 240 volt. And your roof top solar switches off - and you are not being paid despite the fact - the system can generate electricity. And you are being told save the planet. Seems labor - AGAIN. As only big solar farms get to sell the electricity they produce. You are told you are saving the planet. Mind you labor - lie about anything. That's how they float in the political swamp.

[@cplbruiser8267]

$275 is a joke ! If you get a $1,000 + bill per quarter, it`s nothing.

[@KIA-MIA-POW]

The headline could not have put it more succinctly

[@whiskeygamer9402]

Fairy tale Renewables.

[@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367]

Whether you like it or not-the full transition to renewables will happen.

[@whiskeygamer9402]

​@@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367Good. Looking forward to watch it all Fail it will be a real clown show. Lol 😂😂😂😂

[@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367]

@whiskeygamer9402 I'd be more interested at the number of unprecedented extreme weather events occurring rather than the petty political point scoring exercises you right-wing gits adore.

[@turnerfamilyinozi]

Hi Whiskey, I'd ask you a question or make a comment, but we both know you won't reply.

[@whiskeygamer9402]

​@@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367No such thing as Unprecedented Extreme weather Events. But up to you if you want to live in Fear. Lol 🤣🤣😰😱

[@pepefacciazza8679]

We are moving at light speed towards renewables. We don't have anything to back it up. It will cost trillions to connect to renewables. Absolutely $275 a year is rubbish.

[@pandemicoftheunvaccinated5367]

So,the alternative is to continue pumping man-made CO2 into the atmosphere causing extreme weather events to become: more frequent,longer in duration and intensifying at unprecedented rates. Grow up.

[@Poorlineforeva]

You're just being stupid now. Stop making things up that are so ridiculous and unbelievable.

[@user-rc4nw6xy5p]

There are a number of problems here that labor are not telling you. Labor state governments are making anyone who sells a solar inverter - have certain firmware or software. Now what labor don't tell you is this. If the electricity in your street is above 240 volts in the mains power lines - your inverter automatically turns itself off. And you wont be told you are not exporting electricity. And that means the solar panels on your roof - are worthless. Now you can't recycle solar panels. That what the solar panel installers say. They should know they sell and install them. And the people who think they are "saving the planet" with solar panels - their systems are being stopped from exporting electricity. Which you were told that was the reason to put them on your roof. Now - think of this like back a few years - maybe like Albo's mother. A good Catholic - despite battling hard to raise her child - she still gave money to the Catholic Church - despite the church not saying no to her - she did not have to do that. This is the same thing. You are being told put solar on your roof - you are saving the planet. To be a good model citizen. The other issue here. Is the design of your local electricity grid also tells another story labor hides. Electricity grids are designed to carry power away from power stations. So people in country areas - cannot send solar electricity back to the city. As the country power grid can't carry the load to run a city. The country power lines are much smaller. And your solar panels - are turned off without you even knowing about it. So why buy solar panels to export electricity - when they turn off your system. Isn't that lying to you ? Of course it is. The government writes the rules. The solar companies must comply. And people are told - you are "saving the planet." No sorry folks - you were lied to - yet again. This story evolved - in case of a house fire in your street - they need to turn your solar off. No folks - if there is to much electricity being pumped into the electricity grid - they automatically turn off your solar. The companies who sell inverters - can only sell them if - they comply. So the big solar farms - where labor gets campaign donations from - can supply solar to the electricity grid without being disconnected. So labor screws you - all round. Don't mind - labor do it to everyone. Labor are an equal opportunity - lying political party. Everyone gets lied to.

[@meredithisme3752]

Biden Australia version

[@davidcruse6589]

Using same text book

[@elainetalbot2947]

@@davidcruse6589WEF playbook.

[@TheeeeLastToFall]

Biden's electric bus project just filled for bankruptcy 😂

[@NoNopeAndNo]

His sanity also

[@dr.hans.asperger]

🤣 just like Obama with Solyndra

[@briancurtin1216]

AGL needs to get rid of Schott and look after their customers first and deliver a reliable supply and assure the manufacturing industry it can maintain a base load power to be able to function.

[@mattigower1479]

And why are we doing all this self inflicted pain? What will be the actual climate reduction? (temperature reduction we assume, you can't reduce the climate) No one will give any specific answer to that. I can only assume because they have no idea. Could be, no outcome at all, after killing off the economy. What is the actual percentage of the atmosphere that is CO2 right now? It is 0.038% , a figure that everyone seems very reluctant to mention. This is a tiny amount. Out of that 0.038%, what percentage is man made, and what percentage is naturally occurring that we cannot influence? Another figure no one is very keen to mention. According to the scientists, the ones that actually measure these numbers and publish their results, 97% of CO2 is naturally occurring, 3% is man made. So the western world is in a blind panic, spending tens of trillions of dollars to date, for a non measurable result to date, to get to an unknown unspecified outcome. Out of these tiny weeny CO2 numbers, Australia accounts for about 1%. I am all for being fuel efficient, I do not like to see fuel or resources wasted or squandered, but so far, we seem to be intent on squandering and wasting vast resources and money and effort, for no tangible outcome, on any level. We should stop doing this, and killing off our economy in the process. If we stopped doing this tomorrow, and carried on with coal fired power stations, what actual difference, meaning give a specific number, will it make to the climate? It would be very difficult to even measure it, given that China is building new coal fired power stations as fast as they can. Why did we ever sign up this nonsense, that no one can afford.

[@jameswilson7964]

An expensive failure - sums up Albo and his team...

[@MikeWilliams-yp9kl]

We have piles of old wind turbine blade (fields full of). So we now 9 x as many piles of crap + all those useless knackered batteries. Its INSANE !!!!

[@keshavareciuga4788]

I recently installed solar 10.5kw i sent into the grid 1500kw i used 1200kw i paid $560 for 1200kw for that quarter labor has lost my vote

[@seryuri]

​@@jonathanparle8429it is easy. You sell @10c to the grid and buy @23c from them (plus about $1 a day for "usage").

[@VK4VO]

Mining must increase by over 1000%,,, how does this happen? Copper ore grades worldwide are less than 1%. We won't even achieve 30% without the whole system crashing.

[@rodhowellnetwork28]

I love that photo of Albo with one of his colleague's hand on his shoulder. It's almost like he's saying 'we know we won't win the voice Albo, and our energy policy seems to be shot (schott), but everything will be ok...we'll still have a job in opposition'.

[@StevenMilne-sm4fk]

Get rid of labor.

[@StevenMilne-sm4fk]

Pretty please , with sugar on top.✊🥳

[@spikeprotein5924]

Sure - in about 15 years.

[@whiskeygamer9402]

​@@spikeprotein5924Australia will be completely Destroyed by then. Lol

[@wyattfamily8997]

We will be stuffed if it takes that long, they are INCOMPETENT and determined to continue with their IDEALOGY instead of FACTS.@@spikeprotein5924

[@awc900]

@@spikeprotein5924Sure - If you want to want to be in a third world autocratic banana republic.

[@fredchow]

Suggestion, everyone goes to participate in building these kind of power lines, then it sounds more achievable, including the politicians who advocate this absurd project which it will certainly use most of the budget to destroy the beauty of Australian nature and invaluable ecosystem.

[@spikeprotein5924]

We’ve only just begun.

[@roydavis5613]

It's not"wires," they are called CABLES !

[@Jeff-lk4dv]

68 cents a day, Whooppee

[@fredthehoundbasset1532]

Just as co-host Andrew Bolt once said a long time ago on air talking about clmate change that he has tried following the science' But it always leads to following the money".. Its obviously a con

[@gavwilson3413]

Labor's renewable energy policy is nothing less than economic suicide. I suppose it's great if you can afford the ever increasing power bills. And doubtless you get that warm feeling of self awarded virtue for this madness. Pity you don't give a toss about everyday Australians. Who are struggling to pay their bill now. And doubtless will be unable to pay much more. Guess they'll have to go without power. To save the planet. Right?

[@michaelw6173]

A lot of Europe's renewable energy (wind) companies are pulling out of building for the UK. Their contracts are for a fixed supply price of energy, but with the costs of labour and materials skyrocketing, the projects have become unviable as they will run at a loss and never make any money.

[@tslee8236]

We just need to all go off grid.

[@paulweston285]

Mr Alborigine needs to rethink things

[@kevthompson2454]

Labor expertise in expensive failures is evidenced in the many white elephants that dot the Australian landscape. Queensland still awaits the vaunted drought proofing promised decades ago with billions invested at little effect. You would think Hans Christian Anderson writes Labor policy.

[@dayleedwards3521]

The biggest expensive failure was Canberra's "decoupling" from China and the desire to appease the USA. Those rusty submarines a big win for the US, a 38 billion loss for Ozz.

[@jamespunch8049]

Stone age here we come.

[@hanrol1]

its all rubbish dont listen to them

[@dontbeasheeple5883]

Cheepa ewectwicity

[@ironmaidens6663]

This is just going to force up power prices and lead to blackouts.

[@ausbare140]

Follow the money and you will have the answer.

[@rodhowellnetwork28]

Ms Schott. An appropriate name to describe what should happen to this absurd, unnecessary and outrageously expensive rush to renewable energy.

[@localkiwi9988]

Mark my words, all you will be doing is paying more. We went through the same cone in New Zealand. They are after only one thing, more profit

[@Andrew-mv2qb]

Nuclear can use current grid distribution system, cheap energy until we figure it out. My power bill has gone up $100 per month in the 2 years

[@claytonpascoe480]

I am all up for renewable energy. Hell, I’ve been a supporter for Greenpeace for 30 years. But what concerns me, is that what I saw on live TV about the wind farms getting destroyed by the storms, and the solar farms getting smashed by hail. So, I wonder? The A.L.P. would never admit that this could happen here. So what if it does? Major power outages, loss of internet. A serious calamity. The thing is, that the weather/climate is changing. Whether we want it or not, Australia will get hit as well. Until our coal industry runs out, let’s keep people in jobs. Let’s keep our power bills down, so people are not struggling every month. One day, we will run out of coal. Nuclear power will be the way to go, because no matter what happens with the weather, there will always be power.

[@malph9216]

This guy could be talking about the UK. The whole net Zero thing is a con.......follow the money.

[@tiesword3252]

C BOND...SPOT ON, LET THE PEOPLE LEARN THE TRUTH.....

[@kellysouter4381]

Ms Schott is clearly unwell and should be sent home at once

[@simonbowman6206]

Since 2016 both sides of government were told the hydroelectric system could be up graded to deliver more power without issues and no added water needed yet we went pumphydro and 3 time more money spent and no power delivered

[@joywilliams8444]

Leave my bloody gas alone and my petrol . I'm fed up

[@cjd2615]

Clearly, it’s a money making racket and the joke is on us! Someone’s getting rich! Next we’ll be asked to transition to nuclear energy!

[@infidel202]

Meanwhile cannon brooks is rubbing his hands together and thinking about how much money he is making, is bowen getting a kick back

[@tpbtpb2602]

Don't forget the need for batteries to store energy. If you need 100 Gigawatts, you will need to generate at least 200 Gigawatts so you can store energy for when the wind doesn't blow and at night when solar doesn't generate. So, you need at least double the generation capacity and massive costly batteries. Also keep in mind that the solar panels and batteries both degrade and need periodic replacement. Windmills need constant maintenance and also fail and need replacement. So unlike coal, gas, and nuclear which last for 40 to 60 years, these renewable costs are never ending. It would be interesting how they figured the amount of renewable energy needed, did they take into account the extra needed to charge the batteries?

[@tassied12]

Your maths is fautly. Demand patterns peak during the day when there is plenty of solar energy and fall away at night. Analysis shows that the need for storage is greatest in the late evening and early morning peaks, then falls right away outside those times

[@tpbtpb2602]

@@tassied12 So in the morning and evening there is minimal Solar power and at night there is usually no wind, so all the power has to come from the batteries which have to be charged at the same time during the day when the solar power is being produced. This means more solar panels and windmills are needed than enough to supply the actual power usage. I don't know if that mean 50% more or 100% more generating capacity. Also the batteries need to be able to store enough energy to replace generated power on multiple cloudy or windless days.

[@tassied12]

@@tpbtpb2602 Our current coal dominated grid has about a 30% overbuild of capacity to cope with outages, as coal plants are large single points of failure which need substantial backup when they go down. Analysis of NEM generation over the last 12 months show that with the same level of overbuild of wind and solar the periods in which you need to call on substantial extra storage are quite short. It varies from site to site, but wind is generally negatively correlated with solar so you get higher wind generation during winter and in the evenings. Callide C in Qld has had a unit offline for over 2 years. At least the sun gets up each day.

[@RobW-AU]

We met with Energyco yesterday. $10.5 billion in new transmission lines (including through my place) and no projects are signed up to hook up to it

[@theratrace5826]

Governments keep having Solyndra moments. Totally not graft.

[@BeeTrillion]

Oh but the 80% renewables they are talking about is our 80% reliance on fossil fuels.

[@Tyronepeader]

Good to see that Sky News are as berserk as ever with permanent 24×7 apoplectic outrage at Labor. Makes the Referendum a breeze. 😮😢😊😅

[@gavinpruden3306]

The best part is there is a massive copper shortage coming next year and of course that will make copper dearer.

[@ann-mareewarford3081]

Cutting up rain forest for carbon fibre wind turbines what happens when this materials break down, the companies need to be made responsible for clean up and to keep areas as natural as possible they are not doing this, more rubbish going to be left behind for future generations to clean up the mess you all going to leave behind thats whats sinister

[@paulredfern2252]

BIULD renewables NEXT to the existing power generator infrastructure.???

[@daveid6244]

We have so much coal and can get it quite cheep as it's not down deep practically on the surface yet we now don't use it It dose not make any sence Makes you wonder we have 3 choices Laugh Cry Or emigrate Australia is not the country we all loved anymore

[@patfallon3027]

Politicians remind me of Laurel and Hardy , Oliver Hardy use to say to Stan Laurel , can't you do anything right? That's what kind of politicians we've had and got now over the last 50 years in Australia, everything politicians get involved with they stuff it up and cost us Australians millions and billions, that being said, the question is, can anyone come up with a good politician over the the last 50 years? If you can answer this question bear in mind that I'm like a lot of other Australians are very sceptical of politicians

[@ruprectgreatrex9153]

pretty sure albanese mean 'failure' Italian (it does in Thai, anyway)

[@stevencarter7031]

Aussie power grid is stuffed, and soon the economy with it...

[@paolocardinali3951]

Like the great Homer Simpsons said… D’oh!

[@user-rl5nd3ys8p]

All those Power pole will need a permit for each hole !

[@davidcruse6589]

No where not the butt of the joke just the cash cow

[@reallife7375]

Flagged as common sense!! Very naughty!!!

[@bobhebblewhite1685]

how long will this madness go on.

[@greghosking9015]

As my father said to me. You can't put an old head on young shoulders 😢

[@stevencarter7031]

They will have to get approval from the indigenous land council to put up wind turbines and run transmission lines..what will that cost ??

[@jackfrost2146]

Your $20,000 power bill will be reduced by $275.00

[@stevencarter7031]

Targets are just that, a target which doesn't have to be met

[@carlososic4783]

biggest scam

[@benjaminthistle6637]

Nuclear energy ,gas an renewable energy each with 33.333% share holding so one isn't domineering to be objective out of the cost we just don't want to be dominated by one product

[@kanderson4417]

Albo's never worked outside the Canberra bubble, what would he know about transforming an economy. Or even running a economy.