Austrian Army 80 Litre Rucksack

[@kurtsteiner8384]

Its a 40 lifre pack. The skirt is a snow cover to keep snow and water out. Designd for mountain troups made in austria. It should also have a frame to take heavy weight.. the inner bag is for a radi and batteries. That handle is not a handle, its used to tuck webbing yolke under as it culs round the frame of sack. There is also a pouch that can detach that goes over your chest and secures to clips at sack bottom. Dont forget, you have webbing belt with pouches like royal marines use. Also. Much over 15 kg it will sway about without the frame. Austria army and boarder guard usedifferent bervens now. Thesd were phased out in 1990s. Hope it hellps.

[@PieAndChips]

Thanks for the video. I'm planning on buying one of these and then modifying it to fit on to a British Army GS frame as I have one spare. The yoke is designed as part of a set of webbing and is supposed to be worn with a belt. In the pictures I couldn't tell if the yoke was integral to the pack or not, thank you for clarifying this for me!

[@JD-hp8qn]

Just going through some of your older material. I considered the Austrian pack as it was a very reasonable price. However, even with adding the rigidity, I thought the 80 litres was a bit to big for my intended use ie a bushcraft bag. I opted for the large Alice pack which is slightly smaller at approx 60 litre, the aluminium frame helping provide more support and structure. However, after trying it on a few overnighters my key observation was that over packing it made it v heavy and it became huge (as experienced by other Utubers). A couple of people on Utube addressed this by inserting a plastic bucket inside it helping giving it some structure. I purchased Wham Recycling Bin (25 litres) from Amazon and it has done a create job by giving the bag a more solid shape to the pack that also restricts the amount of stuff I put in the bag. The reason I raise this is that this mod could perhaps be applied to your Austrian pack. Maybe worth a try.

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Thanks for the suggestion 👍

[@leighrate]

Best way to deal with those rough edges is to soften them with a lighter and use a metal straight edge (butter knife works well) to round them off. Once you have the pack dialed in fittings wise, I personally would wrap a little Gorilla tape around them for padding.

[@TheSewoodsman]

Great review 👍 With some great video work and nicely spaced out. Thanks buddy, I'm going to get one for my wild hammock camping. 🍻

[@InfoZhedExplore]

It’s a great rucksack with loads of space and a very useful piece of kit providing you do not carry too much weight and understand its limitations. 👍

[@nirfz]

Let me (representing austrians who had to carry this thing) thank you for feeling sorry for us. :-D I think there is an additional reason you had a hard time to figure out how to put the strapsystem on. That would be that it was connected to a belt (which had the mag pouches the canteen and the gasmask on it) If i remember correct, the front straps were connected to the belt in the front, the back ones to the belt in the back and the short front ones to the top of the mag pouches. This strap system then formed what those fancy west carriers are today. (The minimal soldiers loadout, but i imagine the wests being way more comfortable less snaggy in the bushes, but also warmer in the summer) So in the field we would have the strapsystem on anyways, and just needed to clip the pack onto it. (not while wearing) Oh, and this system was in use from 1975 onwards and started to be replaced in 2003. (This russian chap has the belt right in the beginning of the video, but clearly nobody told him how the stuff was assembled either: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWirZpKlhMp0aJI ) Sadly there aren't any pictures explaining or showing it really. The lady on this old promo picture at least wears the small loadout, and you can see the top of one mag pouch, and the loop we fixed the field knife to.: www.hna.de/bilder/2010/08/06/868900/1174234995-heer-dea.jpg And no, there aren't many unissued ones because they were terrible to carry with a lot of weight. I mean yes, they were terrible to carry, but we had and have conscription, and as a recruit, you don't get to choose if you want to carry it or not. Recruits are receiving orders.... (The terrible thing was the lack of any padding, which we tried to mitigate by certain rules in packing, and the metal things and slim shoulder straps) And the max weight loadout we carried with this pack was around 36kg. We had a small pack too (the russian guy in his video has it strapped beneath the big one) that could be hooked into the strap system instead, and when we had to carry "the big cloud" (as we called it) the small pack was strapped to the top of the big one. This then was the 36kg thing that contained everything we had in our locker apart from civilian clothing and our personal belongings.

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Thanks so much for sharing your experiences. I got mine from an Army Surplus store in the UK. Cobbled together the webbing straps after a lot of thought and swearing and head scratching. Realised it was only part of a system before I bought it. As a budget item it works for me as I only carry around I guess 8 to 10 kilos of camera gear and kit when I make videos and travel short distances with it. That’s about my comfortable limit. If it was a lot heavier it would probably saw my shoulders off after a few kilometres. As an inexpensive, large day out carry all I got no complaints. I take my hat off to you Austrians having to carry the full system in combat conditions (especially as you had no choice) you are made of tough stuff 👍

[@nirfz]

@@InfoZhedExplore It seems you found the best usecase for it. :-D Having almost collapsed after around 18 km of marching with the big cloud in the sun due to dehydration and a little hyperthermia, i can assure you that not all of us are made of tough stuff. -> At least I'm not. ;-).

[@deepsouthNZ]

You could easily attach this to the external frame of an old 70s pack they are aluminium and it would fit perfectly

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Thanks for the idea. A few others have suggested the same thing. Yes it is probably possible but a frame is not for me as I do not carry heavy loads. My solution for support that works brilliantly for my needs is putting a MFH german army fold up mat in the large pocket at the back. It fits perfectly, adds structure to the bag, provides decent padding and as a bonus I got something to sit on. Use it in a lot of my videos. It is a real shame they went with the silly over complicated yoke system. Some attached decent padded shoulder straps would nave been much better. It’s a great bag for very little money so I should not really be moaning about the yolk system.

[@loriekaczmarek9788]

Id figure out a way to use alice pack straps

[@wojtekimbier]

I believe it's actually made from polyamide (nylon)

[@mrashby3545]

It's a good quality rucksack. I noticed you took yours on your " Wild Man Camping " trip. I carry quite a bit of weight in mine, and I do find the shoulder straps lacking in padding, and can be quite uncomfortable. Was thinking about changing the yoke for a thicker padded type, but with this style of bag that's easier said than done. I have searched the surplus sector, but most yokes these days are the plastic clip in types. Hard to find the metal hook on clasp yoke that this bag requires. Any suggestions would be welcome. As for your question on the "Camo" preference? I like to use a variety of clothing, depending on the terrain. I live on on the Norfolk Broads, so if I'm out on the marshes, I wear the plain olive or khaki. If I'm out in the woodlands, it's always dpm Camo. The ruck sacks have to be matching as well. I enjoy your video's, long my they continue.

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Yes the rucksack for the money is excellent. I do not carry much weight in it so it works well for me for a day trip. As for a more comfortable yolk I have absolutely no ideas. However I always carry a MFH German army folding mat in the rear inner pocket and it offers a good deal of structure and padding on my back when wearing it.I like the affordability and toughness of army surplus for some situations. Glad you enjoy my content will keep adding new videos as often as I can. 👍

[@thecuttingsark5094]

I love the bag but those straps look awful. My German army sleeping mat hat two sets of fold lines meaning you can fold it into a longer rectangle, presumably for longer rucksacks.

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Yes for light bulky loads I get on with it just fine. This is not one for carrying heavy weight 👍

[@simonsiron887]

Hi i justed bought this bag and i have a few questions. Is it waterproof and could you do a detailed vid on the harness system as i can't figure it out

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Hi, It has a certain amount of water resistance but I would not trust it to be waterproof. I always keep any electronics in a dry bag just in case. The harness I totally get where you are coming from with that one. It took me ages to work it out after a lot of frustration and a great deal of swearing lol. It’s a great bag for the money. About a video mmm can’t promise but will see what I can do as having a filming day tomorrow

[@simonsiron887]

@@InfoZhedExplore Alright thanks

[@InfoZhedExplore]

video live now. Hope it helps you. The backpack was one component of a 4 piece combat system and so I guess thats why its hard to understand how to set up with just the backpack. All the best

[@simonsiron887]

@@InfoZhedExplore thanks that really helps

[@beezwaks]

Pretty sure it's not 80 L,

[@InfoZhedExplore]

I was relying on the stats 👍

[@mustamuri]

✨🧸✨🙂👍

[@RootsLion]

16? thier bloody 26 now smh

[@InfoZhedExplore]

Blooming heck !