Authentic Super Rare 1970 SS454 LS6 El Camino

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Patrick Glenn Nichols Musclecar Barn Finds

Patrick Glenn Nichols Musclecar Barn Finds

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@mwqs1
@mwqs1 Жыл бұрын
I’ll take that over any new pickup available in 2023.
@MrChevelle83
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
gm is too stupid to make cars this awesome anymore!! how did they go from awesome to so ugly. i dont like anything they produce now.
@tonyrhoton6613
@tonyrhoton6613 Жыл бұрын
No wouldnt
@xciteful
@xciteful Жыл бұрын
Any day of the week.
@Bruh..669
@Bruh..669 Жыл бұрын
You better have an economy car to go with it! I doubt you will love the 5mpg it gets 🤣, i have a 71 el co with a 383 and i only get like 8mpg.
@Flussig1
@Flussig1 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Mopar guy but I love this channel. Thank you. .
@MikeBrown-ii3pt
@MikeBrown-ii3pt Жыл бұрын
I'm a GM guy, especially square body pickups, 70 Chevelles and 2nd generation Camaros. BUT, I have a secret love for Mopars too. I have both a 1978 Lil Red and 1979 Warlock II living in harmony with my GM stuff. On the other hand, my current project is a 302/C4 swap into a 1994 Ranger! I should probably find an old, full size Cherokee Chief and a Scout to make sure that all domestic manufacturers are eventually represented in my collection lol!
@BigChief454
@BigChief454 Жыл бұрын
I'm Aussie and was born in January 1970 and these ls6 Chevelle SS coupes and ls6 SS el camino utes are the just the sweetest big block muscle cars barr none ..
@xciteful
@xciteful Жыл бұрын
Your extreme 'play by play' is not only genius, but also mesmerizing, as to remembering all the details as to the ultimate. Just brilliant.
@timschmutz3395
@timschmutz3395 Жыл бұрын
Man that’s a nice car.
@johncornell3665
@johncornell3665 Ай бұрын
Very nice LS6 70 El Camino! Thanks Patrick
@nickrice7535
@nickrice7535 Жыл бұрын
Such a nice LS6 Camino. Thanks for sharing this Great doc video Patrick, your the best 👌
@kenrousey2216
@kenrousey2216 2 ай бұрын
The best looking muscle car period. The original Earth Mover. To fire one up and here it idle is amazing.
@adriantomlin2902
@adriantomlin2902 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Patrick Glenn! I really like the detailed description on.each component. Very nice example of a 1970 Chevrolet El Camino. You rock brother.😎👍
@chaelodoul9401
@chaelodoul9401 Жыл бұрын
Found out last minute yesterday that I was going to have to head into the train yard for third shift as well after working almost 14 straight. But gettin home to a cold pint and a new PGN video……. Now that’s enough to make a grown man cry. Cheeers, to ya mate, from Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I really appreciate your interest. Sit back and enjoy the ride. 💪🏻💪🏻🏁🏁
@WisdomOverWicked777Rules
@WisdomOverWicked777Rules Жыл бұрын
​@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674What ride? You never even cranked it up
@elliottstevens8564
@elliottstevens8564 Жыл бұрын
Lordy Moses this is a all-timer classic Patrick Glenn Nichols Muscle Car Barnfinds!!!!! Beautiful car!!!!!!!
@courtneyjohnson8815
@courtneyjohnson8815 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy all of the videos that you provide
@unclerudy9797
@unclerudy9797 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Patrick ! Very Pretty SS 454 El Camino despite the changes... ! Thanks for posting !
@domcorleone66
@domcorleone66 Жыл бұрын
Love the color! Thanks for sharing, Patrick!!
@davecarey7452
@davecarey7452 Жыл бұрын
I just can tell you now that it's a relatively fine specimen of an LS6.
@theodoredugranrut8201
@theodoredugranrut8201 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, PGN. We love the El Caminos. Central California watching
@brianglade848
@brianglade848 Жыл бұрын
Even tho it's Saturday Patrick, A very nice fish fry for sure
@kurtbyars766
@kurtbyars766 Жыл бұрын
VERY NICE CAR ! It's SOOOO good to see this car, as they were a dime a dozen back in my day. GREAT job Mr Nichols !!
@richardlong8014
@richardlong8014 Жыл бұрын
A dime a dozen?
@dwaynea8177
@dwaynea8177 Жыл бұрын
Very nice Camino
@archiebunker6059
@archiebunker6059 Жыл бұрын
Super nice car, lo,ve the color and vinyl top, coolest Elcamino ever.
@michaeljay62
@michaeljay62 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful car! Thank you!!!
@hessranch
@hessranch Жыл бұрын
Friend of mine had one in high school. It was a four speed... Very badass...
@gregkistner1955
@gregkistner1955 Жыл бұрын
Anouther Great amazing ride!!
@chuckeecheese162
@chuckeecheese162 Жыл бұрын
That’s a peach. Nice.
@andrewwagner942
@andrewwagner942 3 ай бұрын
I have an 84 El camino. But this is my dream car
@garysarnowski3113
@garysarnowski3113 Жыл бұрын
Nice work truck, bench seats, column shifter. Only need those rubber floor covers instead of carpet. Lol
@mgcarr61camaro91
@mgcarr61camaro91 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a most informative video! I learn from every one of them !January wheels is a tongue twister too ! Lol😂👍🇨🇦
@MikeBrown-ii3pt
@MikeBrown-ii3pt Жыл бұрын
Even with all of the "flaws", that's still a very nicely restored El Camino. One thing that I've always wondered about the 1970 Chevelle/Malibu line is why did GM use 2 different front bumpers and 2 different colors for the parking light/turn signal lenses? Lower model Chevelles and Malibus had rectangular lenses but, they were "white" while SS models had amber lenses. El Caminos and (possibly but I'm not sure) station wagons had round lenses but, I'm not sure if the colors varied between "white" and amber on them. Any ideas on the reasoning behind this Patrick?
@MrChevelle83
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
good question!! the big 3 all did quirky stuff like this!
@MrChevelle83
@MrChevelle83 Жыл бұрын
my 70 malibu has square amber lenses. ive owned it for 20yrs and never paid attention to the difference from car to elco. lol.
@nathanlapp2244
@nathanlapp2244 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps it was due to the fact that El Camino/wagon fenders are different than coupe/ sedan fenders. The latter is flared where the former is not. I think the Elco bumper is the same as the 70 Monte Carlo bumper, but I could be mistaken.
@wakanene1
@wakanene1 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you PGN!!!
@scottharris8308
@scottharris8308 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous El Camino
@davisdeen-ty4so
@davisdeen-ty4so Жыл бұрын
always great videos 🎉
@manueldarby3160
@manueldarby3160 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@rogerchevelle8543
@rogerchevelle8543 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful elcamino
@yavin99
@yavin99 Жыл бұрын
Great car.
@Clearanceman2
@Clearanceman2 11 ай бұрын
Wow, that's got to be pretty rare SS 454 el camino
@CletusTJudd
@CletusTJudd Жыл бұрын
Just wondering why no mention of the power window option and if the car was originally equipped as such? Love the videos!
@edvisme
@edvisme Жыл бұрын
Our UHP here do make a lot of dough. Nice score, officer.
@danbusey
@danbusey Жыл бұрын
That's not a garden variety pursuit car.
@chele-chele
@chele-chele Жыл бұрын
Yeah, black asphalt can really add up.
@wesbelew4275
@wesbelew4275 Жыл бұрын
I just noticed the parking lights are round, never knew that.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd Жыл бұрын
El Camino got the Monte Carlo front bumper.
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 Жыл бұрын
yea its funny how they did that. I have seen guy put these bumpers on the 70 Chevelles because they like the round lights.
@andrewmarshall360
@andrewmarshall360 Жыл бұрын
Nice car !454 with gate shifter turbo transmission and taller gearing. Capable of doing a burn out until 80 m.p.h.
@RXRSawdustStation
@RXRSawdustStation Жыл бұрын
That was a wonderful descripting! Do you know IF the bed was body-worked? The body looks exceptional and I'm just wondering IF it had been reworked. I'm presuming it must have been but I don't know. Thank you for your efforts, Patrick! Very enjoyable content!
@rainerseitz
@rainerseitz Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. As the new owner corrects some of the details, they can add the engine lift brackets to the list. The rear rectangular bracket should be flat and should be mounted to the rear of the passenger head, not the intake. The front bracket on the car is a later style item with the Omega stamp. The original will have more rounded corners and will have the part number 3969829 stamped on it.
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 Жыл бұрын
Yessir these are some simple elementary items that are a easy fix. I wasn’t hired to provide assembly line correct component consultation. I was hired to inspect for authenticity and my public endorsement pre purchase to add provenance to the buyer’s investment. I do believe the new owner will be hiring me as well to guide him with correction of incorrect items.
@natew8882
@natew8882 Жыл бұрын
​​​​​​​​@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 You might save time and start with the re-stamped block. Pull the passenger cylinder head to do a complete inspection of the deck surface. Without any documentation or original paperwork the only thing this car has as proof of being an original engine is that passenger side deck surface. If in fact it is the born with block then there should have been many photographs taken during the engine rebuilding process. For an LS6 454 to have survived this long is nearly a miracle as many know. What is the date code of the block? What is the date code of the cylinder heads in comparison to the block? What is the date code on the distributor? In my opinion from what I have seen this car is so pieced together there's no way it's legitimate. If this cars original parts weren't acceptable for the restoration and needed to be replaced with reproduction, then where are the original parts?
@WisdomOverWicked777Rules
@WisdomOverWicked777Rules Жыл бұрын
​@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674Why didn't you tell us how much it was? You don't seem to be as smart as you think you are. You didn't even crank it or drive it Just gave us a boring video with a lot of numbers that you can't back up
@GuyReddoor
@GuyReddoor 4 ай бұрын
Wow, beautiful car. Are you thinking about selling the vehicle. In 1970, I had a cousin with an LS 6 454. 2 years, he traded of a Pontiac Gran Prix, new family stuff, the things we do for love. LOL !! MISS THE FEEL OF THE 454 LS6.
@ibrahim-chevelleMalibuman
@ibrahim-chevelleMalibuman Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤ awesome chevelle ❤with great color
@THROTTLEPOWER
@THROTTLEPOWER Жыл бұрын
Nice!!!!!
@neverendingmods
@neverendingmods Жыл бұрын
So many el caminos were used as fast trucks and used hard back in the days. Not surviving long. Even big blocks. Chevy had done a great job with its styling using the Chevelle front clips and windshield frames. Then in the 80s onwards they were used as drag cars and got chopped up beyond people wanting to restore. This ultra rare LS6 Camino is super rare to find. Those fender liners are a fortune if original.
@sykwookiee
@sykwookiee Жыл бұрын
Got dang that this is sawwwweeeet!
@goldcfi7103
@goldcfi7103 Жыл бұрын
Epic!
@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN
@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN Жыл бұрын
My favorite ride! Hell I'd take a clone!!
@Glideslopes
@Glideslopes Жыл бұрын
Dream El Camino.
@jeffcathline5431
@jeffcathline5431 8 ай бұрын
I know of someone who cut one of these up.Then they found the build sheet and it was a LS6.He still kicks himself and that was 30 years ago.
@JT-SE-OHIO
@JT-SE-OHIO Жыл бұрын
A couple I know had one of these that was the same color and all but was the 325 hp version. He bought it new, dated and married his wife in it, then it became an unwashed, low maintenance, daily driver. They had that car through 2 and almost the 3rd kid before the poor car wouldn't go (250,000+) no more, at least at their price range. It was sold off and replaced with a soccer mom thingy, The Chevelle was bittersweet, the patina in all the right places but yet it was a car that could also be brought bad to its original glory.
@1964corvan
@1964corvan 9 ай бұрын
holy crap!.....besides this guy obviously knowing what he's talking about he can also read me to sleep every night!!!
@chekaschmeka4283
@chekaschmeka4283 Жыл бұрын
This was my Granpas car from '70 to '80.
@brandonharvey4058
@brandonharvey4058 Жыл бұрын
I had a LS5 4 speed 1970 SS El Camino restored it with New Old Stock parts in my Uncles Body Shop in the 90s great ride until it got total wish I still had it to this day
@3602go
@3602go Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that there is not a shop called, PGN Restorations.
@chevelleranch7481
@chevelleranch7481 Жыл бұрын
Damn nice car even if it isn't "correct" in every way.
@neverendingmods
@neverendingmods Жыл бұрын
Is it a drivable runner or is it a non functioning show car like so many restorations that cut corners.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd Жыл бұрын
Is that SS badge on the grill upside down???
@chrisluquette1615
@chrisluquette1615 Жыл бұрын
yep it bothers me the Chevy guys get this wrong a lot especially on high $$$ car like this one...
@terrybutler1911
@terrybutler1911 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is.
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 Жыл бұрын
Many were born upside down and some guys don’t feel right changing it. True story.
@randygoodno7856
@randygoodno7856 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos and expertise. Might I ask how did you originally become involved in all this authentication ? Where and how did you learn so much ?
@archiebunker6059
@archiebunker6059 Жыл бұрын
Mines upside down, can't decide to fix, wonder who the guy was that did it in the factory?
@tonyrhoton6613
@tonyrhoton6613 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@beachlifebestlife
@beachlifebestlife 8 ай бұрын
vinyl tops were installed to cover up imperfections in the roof...cheaper to do...
@welllsaiddddd
@welllsaiddddd 6 ай бұрын
what is the right winsheild washer tank number
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 Жыл бұрын
How much did it sell for? It's a nice car, but I would think they would have put buckets in it, center console and even AC, but maybe the only put AC on cars w/o the LS6 engine like with the Chevelles.
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 Жыл бұрын
seems like they were trying to stay more original. Could not get AC with an LS6.
@bobbrinkerhoff3592
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 11 ай бұрын
Not all people wanted or could use bucket seats due to having a child , hence the reason why it wasn't ordered with them .
@marioreyes9509
@marioreyes9509 Жыл бұрын
I'm more interested in that UHP Charger. What's the word on it.
@klassVIonlySEA
@klassVIonlySEA Жыл бұрын
What color grey is that?
@1112223333111
@1112223333111 Жыл бұрын
nice car holy s**t
@whosthere2707
@whosthere2707 Жыл бұрын
Never could get into these either you want a car or a truck but that's just me ..I know a guy who has a 66 427 just rusting away in his yard no motor but he bought it new I didn't think you could get a 427 in one of them
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 Жыл бұрын
no you couldnt get a 427 factory in El Camino
@chele-chele
@chele-chele Жыл бұрын
396 in '66, no 427 available or offered
@whosthere2707
@whosthere2707 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't sure maybe he put it in down the road. I really don't care for them so I might have misunderstood him
@DannyDisharoon
@DannyDisharoon Жыл бұрын
I know a guy that has an original LS6 same color as this. His dad bought it new and drove it 103000 miles before rebuilding the engine! Udont know what shape it in now because it has sat some time. Loved these elcaminos! 8:31 8:34 8:35
@flypawels
@flypawels Жыл бұрын
👍
@ChefLaRue
@ChefLaRue Жыл бұрын
More importantly...I get the impression this car will never again be driven as intended. What a shame.
@scubatrucker6806
@scubatrucker6806 Жыл бұрын
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@NattilyBarkstale
@NattilyBarkstale Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. Probably horrible fuel mileage but if you can afford to own it then you obviously don’t worry about fuel economy
@tandilenqikashe6416
@tandilenqikashe6416 Жыл бұрын
👌
@arthernandez7082
@arthernandez7082 9 ай бұрын
Will you be willing to sell ?
@freebird7284
@freebird7284 Жыл бұрын
things sure have changed, i passed on one of these at a good deal back in the day because it had a bench seat and automatic, just didn't seem worthy of SS.
@jckf
@jckf Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how people keep installing the badges up-side down on these and other SS cars. It was the first thing I noticed here 🙈
@planetwisconsin9901
@planetwisconsin9901 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of reproduction parts. What percentage of aftermarket parts does one have to have to make the car not original or basically a resto-rod.
@natew8882
@natew8882 Жыл бұрын
Apparently there is no limit because he has authenticated cars which are even worse.
@ronknowles-wm9pz
@ronknowles-wm9pz Ай бұрын
Pat...L for LA... plant....what do you think...I have a Elcamino with a L on the tag.. from La....
@tomschauman4960
@tomschauman4960 Жыл бұрын
“El Camino….one mean machino”
@lostallmymoney2082
@lostallmymoney2082 8 ай бұрын
Whats an M40?
@ebwholesaler
@ebwholesaler Жыл бұрын
Don't tell me it SOLD for $ 149,995.00 ????
@joekochan7589
@joekochan7589 10 ай бұрын
Very hard to come by, dont think they made many 70 LS6 Camino s
@66427
@66427 Жыл бұрын
Hellyeah
@ellisonlowrimore7751
@ellisonlowrimore7751 Жыл бұрын
It will destroy a set of rear tires with no weight in the bed. 👍
@theodoredugranrut8201
@theodoredugranrut8201 Жыл бұрын
All depends on the nut behind the wheel
@ellisonlowrimore7751
@ellisonlowrimore7751 Жыл бұрын
@@theodoredugranrut8201 I had a 69 SS 396! Spin them all day
@chele-chele
@chele-chele Жыл бұрын
Not before the wheel hop shakes the molars out of your head! I had a red w/ black rally stripe m22 version of this car in the 80's and it shook the earth before it would hook. Really need a ladder bar or 4 link setup to make em settle down.
@barnabyjones5161
@barnabyjones5161 Жыл бұрын
Pop the valve covers on and fire it up.
@davidlane9138
@davidlane9138 Жыл бұрын
The older a car gets the more difficult it is to find parts but in my opinion it's not a authentic ls6. It's basically a reproduction of one. 😒
@SpressoHead
@SpressoHead Жыл бұрын
It thought it was numbers-matching 😳
@David..832
@David..832 2 ай бұрын
It's not a Chevelle El Camino, it's just an El Camino
@rogjackson
@rogjackson Жыл бұрын
Cool that it's stock, but pull the god damn smog pump off. Please...
@natew8882
@natew8882 Жыл бұрын
Deck surface looks sanded. Should be broached. IMO too many replacement parts to be real. I'd definitely want to see every original part that was replaced. My guess is that ain't gonna happen. Amateur restoration with way too much wrong. This car can be easily built from scratch. Without a build sheet or original buyer docs, not believable. I'd have to do a closer in person inspection of the block surface under the passenger side cylinder head before handing over any money.
@markochoa85
@markochoa85 Жыл бұрын
what youtube channel do you have so we can compare your knowledge and original cars to?
@natew8882
@natew8882 Жыл бұрын
​@@markochoa85A KZbin channel or KZbin videos doesn't make you an expert.
@WisdomOverWicked777Rules
@WisdomOverWicked777Rules Жыл бұрын
​@@natew8882Yeah how come he didn't crank it How come he didn't drive it and why didn't he say how much it was????? This guy is BORÍNG
@bobbrinkerhoff3592
@bobbrinkerhoff3592 11 ай бұрын
@@WisdomOverWicked777Rules maybe the new owner wouldn't give his permission to allow it to be started and driven . The sale price is the private business of the seller and buyer .
@whirlwind8825
@whirlwind8825 Жыл бұрын
Reproduction parts tells me its repainted and no telling the shape of internal parts packard wires too clean... Nice resto mod but no way a car to enter a registry
@georgerohlinger5837
@georgerohlinger5837 Жыл бұрын
I think Patrick knows what he's talking about when it comes to Chevelle
@whirlwind8825
@whirlwind8825 Жыл бұрын
Endorsing a restoration for a sale is nearly touching the third rail ...@@georgerohlinger5837
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 Жыл бұрын
not a resto mod...not a perfect resto but its still a resto
@whirlwind8825
@whirlwind8825 Жыл бұрын
It has modern parts so it is a resto mod@@cuzz63
@middnight3474
@middnight3474 Жыл бұрын
Sum ting wong
@ebwholesaler
@ebwholesaler Жыл бұрын
Who cares about all the parts being original or replaced ? Just buy a new car, next time ! Lol Meanwhile, enjoy as much as possible before these California freaks ban old polluting cars from their roads.
@manueldelp8356
@manueldelp8356 Жыл бұрын
Pat, I love your content but I can't stand the adds.
@chele-chele
@chele-chele Жыл бұрын
ad-blocker man, I use malware bytes
@davidconkling3655
@davidconkling3655 Жыл бұрын
Great car. But not a top dog. Like the 1970 BUICK GS 455 STAGE ONE. I HAD TWO IN THE 70S. . GOLD AND SILVER. RARELY LOST A RACE. CAR AND DRIVER CALL THE BUICK THE HEMI KILLER - STUMP PULLER - ULTIMATE SLEEPER. BAD TO THE BONE.
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674
@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 Жыл бұрын
The 1970 LS6 SS454 Chevelle is and has always been the KING of the Muscle Cars. That’s been determined over and over. It’s the undisputed KING with different examples holding pure stock records. That Buick is a cool car but the average guy doesn’t even know about a Buick or they had a muscle car. Nothing tops the popularity and performance of the fire breathing big block Chevy SS454 LS6.
@davidconkling3655
@davidconkling3655 Жыл бұрын
Ok. But with bench seat and auto on Column. I always thought the s s was kinda plain jane. GE had buckets. Tach on hood. Ram air that worked when 4- barrels are open. 450 HP. 510 torque. . almost unlimited posi. And luxury interior. . its a close race. Thanks for the feedback. Oh I paid 500 for one AND 750 for other. In the mid 70s. Keep up the good work.
@cali2468
@cali2468 Жыл бұрын
Correct. I've read all of the old shootouts and performance review articles and the 1970 LS6 was always the fastest. Not sure why Buick guys think the Stage 1 was faster because it definitely wasn't.
@realDonXeon
@realDonXeon 5 ай бұрын
Your exterior shots really failed. An entire video of close-ups does not showcase the vehicle. Nice car though.
@shawnamericanrebel5676
@shawnamericanrebel5676 Жыл бұрын
Can you do more Ford Videos please 🤨😬
@RCampbell-y4b
@RCampbell-y4b Жыл бұрын
You are on the WRONG site
@shawnamericanrebel5676
@shawnamericanrebel5676 Жыл бұрын
@user-bw4pv9nd5t OMG I'm so sorry I thought this was a Mustang Channel
@barnabyjones5161
@barnabyjones5161 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't get to the landfill in any of these vids.
@shawnamericanrebel5676
@shawnamericanrebel5676 Жыл бұрын
@@barnabyjones5161 😁 First on Race Day Baby
@marvinhancock6433
@marvinhancock6433 Жыл бұрын
How can you expect to have everything correct with a car this old consider yourself lucky to have the car at all the car is beautiful
@jamestaylor3737
@jamestaylor3737 Жыл бұрын
Never seen one with power windows
@welllsaiddddd
@welllsaiddddd 8 ай бұрын
dont have the right front bumper or headlight bezel molding
@tvoprosucks
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THAT ALTERNATOR IS AN A 37
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