Author Louise Perry defends suggesting women should only get drunk with other women

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[@bell191991]

Her point about broken families and abuse from step-parents was massively important. People are just in denial about the terrible consequences of broken families.

[@newtonia-uo4889]

A societal cope if you will

[@ranellnikora48]

It is so important. In NZ the highest rate of child abuse and death from violence is from non biological parents, predominantly a non biologically related male in the house.

[@mylesg7278]

And the rest!

[@salgreco1969]

I've been called 'backward' for suggesting that a drunk female is at great risk for her safety. Sad but a reality.

[@elkpaz560]

Men too of course. From other men. It doesn't mean that those who would seek to exploit someone in a vulnerable state isn't a sh*t.

[@NiaLaLa_V]

Well I am a 40 year old woman and a lot of bad things happened to me in my life when I was drunk. I don't drink now. You sir, are correct, people just really hate truth.

[@salgreco1969]

@@elkpaz560 true. But generally men are less vulnerable than females

[@salgreco1969]

@@NiaLaLa_V we all hate hard truths

[@salgreco1969]

@fredda1188 True. There is a difference between males one knows and doesn't, but both classifications are a potential threat to varying degrees. And yes, males are victims too-- at the hands of other males. But I suspect the likelihood of victimization skews female.

[@WOJAus]

Sexual assault of women, and homicide of men: Both skyrocket when alcohol is involved

[@NiaLaLa_V]

"I was drunk" was literally Brock Turner's entire defense strategy.

[@NaziHampster]

She speaks sense.

[@spalding1968]

Perfectly sensible advice . Why would any reasonable person disagree ?

[@timh2065]

Maybe they enjoy having drunk women to attack?

[@adrianharry5336]

Feminsm says the opposite

[@superswiper7666]

She's saying don't get drunk right around men you don't know, not that you have to be completely sober? I think that's really sound and should be uncontroversial advice

[@americandingo1109]

It also shouldn't be necessary. Men aren't uncontrollable animals, and have (or _should_ have) the inability to process and control their own emotions, such as lust. We need to expect more from men, not expect women to adapt to living around their bad behavior.

[@immanuelcunt7296]

​@@americandingo1109 That's a stupid argument. The vast, vast majority of men are capable of controlling themselves. It's not "mens' bad behaviour". It's the bad behaviour of a minority of hyper-aggressive, often psychopathic men. It is a small, small minority of people who engage in violent crime. Now, if your claim is that we shouldn't have to fear for our safety, and violent crime should be eradicated, sure. But that's a stupid thing to say because it's practically impossible. We should eliminate assault, armed robbery, murder, drunk driving, etc, but I'm still going to take precautions to keep myself safe from them. So why is SA any different?

[@mattr.1887]

Americandingo, agreed. There also shouldn't be theft, lies, murders, cancers, etc but these things do happen.

[@NiaLaLa_V]

Men I know raped me. She is saying don't get drunk around men because male violence is a real, documented thing.

[@thehowlingmisogynist9871]

@@americandingo1109 - Yes, let's make men responsible for women's sh*tty choices and behaviour!! Way to infantilise women (misogyny), because no woman ever born was sexually aggressive.

[@richardabbot8724]

Throughout this I was unclear whether I was watching GBN or BBC. The resistance to any kind of new thought by these people is tiresome.

[@BOZ_11]

this isn't NEW, it's what everyone knew up until very recently (the 70s)

[@moresquatsmoretwats6298]

@@BOZ_11exactly

[@reasonablyserious]

​@@BOZ_11 it's been largely abandoned for over fifty years, so I think it qualifies as being new to the currently active generations, however sad this is

[@BOZ_11]

@@reasonablyserious kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXelgISwiNBkasU

[@gillmacnamee6148]

Couldn't agree more-it's so depressing..all these female interviewers are just clones of Cathy Newman.

[@adrianabarnard6402]

Staying in control while you’re around people you don’t trust or often don’t even know it’s common sense to me it’s insane to me how the opposite has become the norm. As a teen my mom would force me to take my brothers with me pretty much everywhere I went I have 3 brothers so one was always available and I saw it as torture but what she was really doing was trying to insure my safety. Now I think I lived in a bubble that protected me and I’m so grateful I had it. When I would hear that girls always choose jerks for boyfriends I couldn’t understand it because I always knew exactly who to avoid and only dated gentlemen who treated me extremely well. Being well protected thought me how to protect myself.

[@markdavis2097]

I watched this lady debating at Oxford Uni regards against Porn, and thought she was bang on the money. Now she speaks perfect sense on this topic. Well done Louise Perry - a very smart lady giving modern women excellent advice. Let’s hope this is the New Feminism. Smart..🙌🙌👏👏👏

[@fran791]

It is thankfully

[@BOZ_11]

this is anti feminism. how did u miss that?? this is more in line with attitudes from the 50s and basically all decades prior.

[@markdavis2097]

@@BOZ_11 so called progressive feminism or new age feminism is toxic and doing more harm to young ladies the lies it spreads and making women unhappy.

[@BOZ_11]

@@markdavis2097 there is no new vs old feminism. The suffragettes were terrorists, just search for 'Suffragette bombing and arson campaign'. They killed and injured dozens of people. They only stopped because of the great war in 1914. As soon as war breaks out, they all don their aprons.

[@markdavis2097]

@@BOZ_11 your confusing.. so we agree then. That’s ok👍

[@reginasemenenko148]

My Mother gave me this advice time after time and I decided not to drink at all. I never want to be at the mercy of anyone. She told me that not everyone was my friend and that there were dangerous people in the world. My Mother would often have me read stories from the newspaper and would talk about personal responsibility and safety. This was not one or two 20 minute sessions, but a rather routine ongoing conversation.

[@Ari_diwan]

Moms always knows better

[@barrypeterson6725]

They challenged everything she says, especially the guy. Maybe they should reassess their opinions that is so common among the liberal media.

[@BOZ_11]

the guy is a disgusting feminist. male feminists only adopt said views because they think it'll get their member wet. the total irony

[@sandman8993]

Standards have just completely slipped and apparently it’s ok.

[@vincent1963m]

Seems like a very sensible lady it’s all about self protection and self responsibility, you would be a fool to walk around London with a gold watch hanging out your back pocket because it’s likely to be stolen but it doesn’t mean it should be stolen you would take precautions so it doesn’t get stolen. That’s how woman should view getting drunk.

[@susanbishop9525]

You compare a woman to a piece of property Women are not property.

[@Zerradable]

Not the greatest of the analogies.

[@DreamCatcher-wg1bk]

@@monikagolab8892 I don't see anywhere in the OP that says women should not have sexual relationship?. It's just saying women should be careful when its comes to getting drunk, considering certain dynamic and consequences.

[@DreamCatcher-wg1bk]

@@Zerradable Yea, Not the greatest of analogy if we live in utopia. However we are not, and that's the reality we live in. If I go to a rough neighborhood flashing tons of cash, golf necklace and diamond plated watch. What are my chances of getting robbed. Its 99%. Does it is mean I should get robbed, Nope. Its just about being aware and careful. There will always be some rough people trying to rob and harm you in certain settings, that's the way human are. Our chances of well being and survival increases when we navigate situations consciously and with awareness.

[@DreamCatcher-wg1bk]

@@monikagolab8892 Again, how is that even connecting with the 'drunk' point? It's only about women to be careful about getting 'drunk' (and even not drinking). Certainly not an advise not to date. That's a overtly big misconstruction you have right there. If we go by that logic, men should not marry because women across the world initiates Majority of the divorces?. I will not even go to that quantification of data. The whole point here is simply about being careful, smart and responsible with the situations that we go through everyday for optimal safety, that's all. That applies to both men and women.

[@jeanetterodriguez3589]

Finally women with high standards are coming back

[@ss1908]

Whats wrong being a single mom or being a single dad? What an absurd question? What about ask a single mom or dad that? No single parent would recommend becoming a parent alone if they have an option to have a good partner to do that with. Louise has the best poker face ever. I would have cracked up.

[@bingosantamonica]

Being a good father or a good mother is difficult, even if you are married. I can´t imagine doing it alone.

[@Ari_diwan]

​@@bingosantamonica Exactly

[@ranellnikora48]

Ask any single parent, they'll tell you exactly what is wrong with it.

[@pippaneil4632]

Having control and taking Responsibility are two different things.

[@iandougall7169]

Yes. Responsibility without control is a definition of hell.

[@JeffCaplan313]

@@iandougall7169 AKA, the lives of men... 😕

[@MrShuttz]

I agree with this woman, the children are the only ones who suffer

[@katiez688]

My grandparents grew up in the 1930s. It was awful. Their fathers were alcoholics and beat them. Their mothers were stuck doing low wage work and couldn’t leave or make their husbands stop abusing the kids because they lacked financial independence. Before the womens movement, we didn’t have social services or support for victims of child abuse. A man was considered the king of his castle and people took the attitude of “not getting involved” in a family’s “personal business”.

[@KD400_]

@@katiez688 exceptions dont disprove the norms. They were exceptions name a single period in history where times were perfect u can't because they were never perfect

[@BOZ_11]

@@katiez688 but mothers are more than twice as likely to abuse their children, so who's protecting the kids from their mothers? Data according to 'U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services “Child Maltreatment” reports, 2001-2006*'.

[@reasonablyserious]

​​@@katiez688 we're not building a time machine. We just don't want to live with the mistakes the boomers left us

[@h.s.l6875]

She is so right on the getting drunk with other women topic. I don't understand why this isn't commen sense for people. Why would anyone gamble with their sanity and life?! Even if there is no violence, and in the drunken moment both parties participate "willingly", they are not in the right headspace to actually know what they're doing and sober, would probably never do those things. And i also believe a lot of sexual abuse crimes involving alcohol are not reported, either because the victim doesn't remember, or because she believes she contributed to the situation and other reasons.... Anyway, ladies, don't get drunk with men.

[@swcordovaf]

Her book is filled with all the important consequences that no one wants talk about when it comes to the changing relationships in society due to the birth control pill. The positives of the pill have been overstated and the negatives have been completely ignored and covered.

[@mohamednaflan4361]

She, very politely destroyed them to the ground😅😅😅😅

[@FHIPrincePeter]

I really dislike it when a Guest is invited on to a show for their Expertise and the Hosts proceed to lecture them on what the prevailing opinion "should be.".

[@simplelifelost]

Agreed. GBN has gone down in my estimation after this.

[@thebigredwagon]

It’s always funnier to me when someone suggests to a hedonist to perhaps curb their hedonism.

[@Nagisasan36]

Kudos to Louise for nailing her colours to the mast. These conversations need to be had.

[@nigelbloor7660]

Keep spreading the message Louise, it is unfortunate that we have hi jacked sex for personal amusement and it has lost its spiritual magic in the process. Having children involves giving up our narcissistic tendencies and the need to accept responsibility for the the future . The process matures us and is fundamental for a workable society. The avoidance of this, and pursuit of hedonism seems to result in chaos and erosion of social stability. 😢😢

[@deaddudegaming]

The problem is that before feminism women didn't have many rights. Often times women were pushed if not forced in to marriages. I read an article in the mid 90s were they talked to women who married prior to the feminist movement. They found like 85% of women were unhappy in their marriage. They had nothing that was theirs or they could be proud of. Everything centered around the kids or her husband. Women had little to no voice with in their marriages. They had no say over finances. They felt they had no real control over their own lives. After the feminist movement women had more options. They didn't have to depend on a man to survive. Which means they were able to be more picky about who they married. When they did get married they had more say with in that marriage and control over their life. I agree having kids can be very good for both men and women. However that doesn't mean men and women should have kids for the sake of having kids. This should happen in its own time and own way and not feel pushed or forced. The problem here is that their is no balance. There nothing wrong with a women waiting to get married and having children. There nothing wrong with having a career and establishing her self before marriage or having children. Where it becomes wrong is when they choose that over marriage and children because they think that's what their supposed to do. When they should be looking at themselves and asking themselves what they really want and not what they think they should do. The vast majority of women if they really thought about it would come to realize they do want to get married and have children and being a stay at home mom. Not all women are going to want that. I met a young women who loved being outdoors and camping and she wanted to do nothing but that and hike her whole life. She worked here but off to start a business' at very early age and turn in to a company that would earn her enough money to do what she wanted. By time she was 23 she was worth a couple million dollars. She ran her business' while traveling. She had people that ran the day to day operations and she just monitored the overall operations from were ever she was at. She spent her time camping, hiking and see the world. Here family became the people she met along the way including her own family. She has a niece and nephew who she adores and spends time with and will steal from time to time and take them on amazing adventures. While she did get married she never had children and doesn't have a desire to have children. She doesn't regret it for a second because she has done things that most people will never in million years get to do. Anything she wants to pass on she does with her niece and Nephew. Now she an exception to the rule of course. Their very few women that are going to be like that. Yet she knew her self and what she wanted in life. She wasn't trying to be or live a life she didn't necessarily want deep down. I think both men and women make a lot piss poor choice that make them unhappy. The first step to being truly happy is by being honest with ourselves about what we really want and what will really make us happy.

[@DerrickJLive]

Wow I had no idea about these figures. I am extremely blessed. Thank you GBNews for having this guest.

[@anandup.s9226]

Sensible woman👏

[@masterofnone8400]

I completely agree with her

[@stephenglasse9756]

She's saying it like it is

[@-WandererNotLost-]

Not everyone that drinks and drives will end up crashing, but it's still something that shouldn't be engaged in. It's the exact same thing with women drinking with men. Rarely will it be an issue, but it's probably better to be safe. Feminists in the West have this ridiculous assumption that just because they should be safe, that they are in fact safe in every scenario they place themselves in. Taking precautions is something we all should engage in. The guy that drives the money truck to the bank, SHOULD be able to do his job safely, but that doesn't mean he doesn't take precautions. Grow up ladies. As we've come to find out, the so called male feminist allies tend to be the biggest sexual creeps exploiting women, and using their "ally" position as a shortcut into the bedroom. The fact that they have convinced women to be so sexually free has only really been a boon to those low quality, liberal men, and seeing GBNews take such silly Hot Takes, is kind of hilarious. Maybe I assumed a more conservative bent. I guess it's in fact yet another Libertine, Libertarian mouthpiece.

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

Brilliant. Spot on. Carrying on like a bad lad is not my idea of women's liberation (though it works very well for blokes). Edit: the blokes who get what they want I mean.

[@steffihaas7490]

"Feminists in the West have this ridiculous assumption that just because they should be safe, that they are in fact safe in every scenario they place themselves in." I agree, but this is because feminism (which is really not one thing, but let's say it is for the argument) was developed by upper middle class (lesbian) women who had the resources to reduce potential harm from their lives and the means to avenge any wrong-doings against them. The lesbians quite frankly don't know what it's like to be in a romantic relationship with men so they can have a very limited view, sometimes despise motherhood and family all together, so their voices were never for women in general, but for a certain group of alienated lesbians who wanted to change society so that they could have more power out in the open and be respected as quasi-men. I think the whole t thing for women has a lot to do with this. And the upper middle class women have absolutely no clue as to the lives of women from other classes. None. More often than not, they have a very distinct disgust for working class women who are directly negatively affected by these one-dimensional and grandiose concepts that lead to cultural incentives such as "no marriage", "no children", "no family", "every two (or three) people who love each other are the same as marriage". The end results of these policies have become very obvious: adults unwilling to protect children in society, adults actively putting children at risk, adults trying to sever the bond between parents and chilren, mental illnesses everywhere you look, narcissism as the new normal, children being taught to hate non-conformist and free people, children being brought up with devices as their only friends, children who don't even know anymore what privacy is or that it is not normal to be monitored every second of every day, young adults behaving in such a venomous and brutal fashion toward older generations that you cannot help but fear the future. We are in the early stages of something very ugly.

[@user-bq2ko2tb2w]

If you think this you can't have a go at feminists for hating men when you are doing the exact same here. Women shouldn't have to take precautions. Men should change their abusing behaviour

[@jenniferlawrence2701]

​@@user-bq2ko2tb2w "Shouldn't have to" is an idealist hope rather than a realist appraisal. Ideally no one should abuse anyone, and of course we should continue to try instill the positive values we want in men. But we shouldn't be so naive as to assume no one is going to abuse anyone, or that alcohol isn't going to lead to some regrettable 'grey-areas,' particularly in young people. Humans are not blank slates. We still haven't managed to eliminate murder, for example, despite many centuries of very strong taboos and laws against it. Child sexual abuse is about the most despised, condemned action in society, and yet some people still do it, and probably always will.

[@Ari_diwan]

Facts

[@SA-vz7qi]

The man is such a bore. "But single parents are good..." It really sucks to be a single parent if he can't see that he is too thick for this. If he actually knows this and is just virtue signaling he should be embarrassed.

[@eldoradorail8891]

Haha I couldn’t believe it, “what’s wrong with single parents” …umm how about the effect of the child!

[@mrsuperger5429]

Many of the UK's social and mental problems are due to adults never having a father figure in their lives. Reared in all-female nurseries, educated by female teachers, who dominate the UK school system, then back home to a single Mum. Young men, especially, suffer from not having a male role model, and often join gangs to feel like they belong to a family.

[@reasonablyserious]

And young women see no value in themselves, become single mothers after promiscuous behaviour (which unlike with men is often a sign she lacks self-respect) I totally agree we need more good male role models, as we do proper female role models. A lack of either has devastating effects on individuals, as well as the society as a whole.

[@okyouknowwhatever]

This woman is fabulous.

[@adrianharry5336]

Look up all her stuff it’s incredible

[@vanessac1965]

People don't leave their house unlocked, because a minority of people will exploit that. Why not apply the same understanding to leaving your mind/body unlocked with an anaesthetic, alcohol?

[@Jean-qn4fy]

Someone needs to tell Perry to speak up. She starts out audible and then retreats into mumbling.

[@HB-xw6im]

Hope her word is put out there for young girls 🙏

[@reasonablyserious]

And their parents

[@mattr.1887]

Honestly you shouldn't accept an open alcohol container from anyone you wouldn't trust with your life. Even as a man. Roofies happen, shit happens.

[@Warstub]

Excellent return questioning and challenging of the guest. Louise has important views that are worth thinking critically about, and whether we agree or disagree, we can't just shove them under the carpet any more because they are fundamentally based on the results of past human activity. Important conversations discussed with intellectual integrity. 👍

[@scottbrandon6244]

At 4:40. Louise actually has the guts to say women should not drink around men. University campuses have a long history of sexual assaults, often where the victim and offender know each other. A common trait in case histories is a use of drugs and/or alcohol leading up to the assault. But feminists would have you believe women should be free to do whatever they want. Most women would agree it would not be a good idea to go alone to a drunken frat house for a party because of the associated risks. So Perry's advice to women on drinking sounds like good advice given the potential risks for women and her experience working in a sexual assault center.

[@alwynjaegar1778]

Yh well loadsa boat men cant wait to find some drunk birds to culturally enrich

[@BigBenn2014]

Way too many women in the U.K. have problems with alcohol. The ‘wine o’clock’ attitude is destroying women because they just can’t cope with the amount of booze they drink.

[@louiseparker1915]

Germaine Greer talked about this years ago.

[@conceptualclarity]

Just don't get drunk

[@phalynwilliams4119]

Louise Perry spoke the absolute truth. She is rational and sensible.

[@HumanDignity10]

NFP (Natural Family Planning) is just as effective as the pill, there are no side effects, and it's much healthier for women.

[@dacoolfruit]

How about never getting drunk? Is that not an even a better idea?

[@iantodoyle5074]

Comparing to the risks of driving. Drunk driving is illegal for a reason. And men - don't get drunk around women, or be with drunk women. Protect yourself from the risk of an allegation. It's goes both ways.

[@siobhanmcgregor2557]

It's about time we had someone in particular a feminine female like Louise to stand up and question what our mothers and aunts are peddling. It's not necessarily how they lived but this desire to puppeteer their daughters as ladettes.

[@andrewjennings7306]

A bheil gaelige agad?

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

'What's wrong with being a single mum'? What a knob. Heroic people can do amazing things but why promote putting them in the situation where they have to? It is not stigmatising to be honest about what is less than ideal, statistically, by almost every measure. And maybe we should stigmatise men who leave other people to bring up their children alone?

[@wyattfamily8997]

Feminism hasn't assisted women for decades, early days it was needed and valued, but now it has become more a sick competition that serves no gender well.

[@mihaelatudor2417]

Amazing how both interviewers try to deny reality and to suggest that Louise is prejudiced against men....Not even touching the topic of morality.....We are all blind 😢

[@notalefty999]

Largely agree with the sentiments expressed, but whether covering herself against reputational damage or sincere, she is just wrong to claim single parents are the most valiant people. No they aren't. Yes, raising children alone is more difficult. But on average, single parents are less intelligent, less conscientious and less responsible than married couples, and this is in no small part why the children of single parents do worse. Compare single parents in general to widows specifically, and there is a significant difference in their behaviours and the outcomes of their children. This really shouldn't be the surprising. What psychological profile do you think most disposes people to having children out of wedlock, or even a stable relationship? Its not high IQ, responsible and conscientious people who are prone to doing this. And no, you don't have to earn the money as a single parent. Single parents receive enormous subsidy from either the tax payer or family members or both. It is very rare that they are truly economically self sufficient.

[@pythonjava6228]

Thats quite unfair to single people many of whom become single parents for reasons outside their control (like escaping spousal abuse). In general children fair better in homes which are free from violence and poverty. A married couple which abuses their kids will not be better than a single parent who loves their child. I agree with the case that, in spite of thw difficulties they face, single parents are resilient. And if you're going to make against government and institutional subsidies for single parents you should be consistent and argue against the subsidies given to married people including the fact that they pay less taxes and earn higher salaries for the same work.

[@notalefty999]

​@@pythonjava6228 No, my statement was not unfair; it was accurate. You haven't acknowledged the fact that I qualified the statement about single parents by saying "on average", and I also noted a specific subcategory of single parents to whom this trend does not apply (widows). Doubtless, there are other examples of single parents who do not conform to these trends. But averages matter if you want to understand social phenomena, and the truth is, a lot of the social dysfunction associated with single motherhood is a consequence of the psychological profile of single mothers, which as I say, is disproportionately unintelligent, irresponsible and lazy; it is not disproportionately "resilient", hence why they need a lot more subsidy than married couples, not less. It is not simply the circumstance of them being single mothers that leads to bad social outcomes, its the kind of people single mothers are. As a consequence, the practical impact of much of our welfare spending is to incentivise the people least suited to be parents to have children, because we effectively mitigate the cost of bad decisions, thereby making them more attractive options. Take having the children of a habitual criminal for example. Pre welfare state, one of the major deterrents to this decision was the prospect of abject poverty, because in the rather likely event that a habitual criminal was sent to jail, or simply abandoned you, you would face grinding poverty. Thanks to the welfare state, women with kids no longer need to worry about homelessness or starvation. And, not coincidentally, women are FAR more likely to procreate with criminal and other totally irresponsible men who have no means of providing for the children than used to be the case. And as the traits that make for irresponsible parents are substantially heritable, the children will inherit these deficiencies in a manner that is not amenable to correction by social policy intervention. The unfortunate truth is that for a lot of the money we spend on benefit recipients, we would be better off literally setting the money on fire. Simply wasting the money would be much better than spending it to cause active harm as we are presently doing.

[@thinkingallowed7042]

She was clearly trying to not inflame people such as the two hosts who were both hostile to her argument in the book.

[@PontificusPinion]

WRONG! Because "blended families"! Never mind the decades of research and data!

[@nowherepeople3431]

@@PontificusPinion Indeed. Yet more nauseating knee jerk liberalism from these daft GBN presenters.

[@psyclotronxx3083]

I'm a man and I don't go drinking at a bar alone

[@emmadudney2504]

As hubby said to me "where is the fun in that"😉🤣😂

[@bbuzz1687]

Except unfortunately, single parenthood is now the norm in the UK. The state finances it.

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

I believe that anyone with more than 2-3 kids that goes on welfare they get the Snip Snip if you know what I mean. There is one case in America where a woman had 16 kids and they are all on welfare.

[@ESUSAMEX]

As a guy, I cannot believe the hosts are this stupid. Sure women can drink with men around, but the key is to not get drunk. I have seen many educated, independent women become utter fools around men while drunk. One time, a woman from Finland was dancing with six Mexican dudes in a Mexican party bar. The woman clearly could not understand nor speak Spanish because if she did, she would have realized that the guys wanted to take her home and take turns with her in bed. When she left to go to the restroom, I quickly told her in English what their plan was. At first, she did not believe me. Moments later, she told me she wanted to go home. I acted like her boyfriend and she acted like she was my girlfriend so that the other guys wouldn't just think I was stealing her away. The woman grabbed my hand and we walked out together and got into a taxi. I kept looking behind us to make sure we were not followed. On the way home, I learned she was staying in a house next to mine. When I saw her the next day sober, I read her the riot act. She got mad, but deep down she knew I was right. Do not get loaded unless you are with people you can really trust. Sadly, that safer place is only with women.

[@andrewjennings7306]

Damn I thought you were gonna say you've been married for 20 years or some shit.

[@Ari_diwan]

I would even go as far as to say that men and women can't be friends, every time I thought we are good friends, the real reason the guy was befriending me was so he can get to the next level which is getting laid, this is the sad reality of how just men are wired, feminism or liberalism can't change that

[@andreawannop8670]

Oh god...stop denying that intact family unit isn't better for children. We all know it...countless studies verify that and even we observe it ourselves every day. Look at single parenthood in ghetto America......and all the social problems. I entirely 100 PC agree with the speaker.

[@jesusmtz29]

Drinking is just about the easiest way to put yourself at a disadvantage in life. Theres not a single positive side to it

[@careneh33]

Good job on the critical questions!

[@ss1908]

Its very rare for a blended family to coparent the children succesfully. It so rare that i have never seen it in real life. What is this guy all about? Who gave this man any air time? Is he a troll?

[@jamesmichael4185]

Thanks Louise

[@bombappetit]

It's not that all men are evil. It's a matter of you never know where the evils are. When the topic was brought up, her usual straight beautiful face immediately lit up. 😁

[@line_inthe_sand2569]

She makes a decent argument. I can't agree with the solution of avoiding men while drinking. That's too far. How about nobody should get drunk? Drinking is more enjoyable while you're fully conscious.

[@donagh1954]

The pubs are invested in their customers getting drunk. Except in Australia where we are shown the door if you show signs of being drunk. Also Jordan Peterson quotes the statistics that 50% of people who commit murder are drunk at the time and 50% of people who are murdered are drunk at the time.

[@tranquility9325]

It isn't going too far. Men don't have a lot of sexual self control when they aren't drunk. And alcohol lowers a woman's inhibitions and the next thing you know someone is getting it on and regretting it the next day.

[@psyclotronxx3083]

I've been around drunk women. Not a turn on for this bloke.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

How about not getting drunk at al?

[@bilbobaggins5408]

Yes and how about women taking some responsibility

[@AndyMacaskill]

Brilliant.

[@loftyradish6972]

The problem is we don't live in utopia. Just because something should be true doesn't mean it is true. No matter how well educated men are, no matter how much progress we make in society, some people will always be bad people, some people will always hurt others. When someone is hurt, it is the fault of the person who hurt them. It is never the victims fault, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea to take precautions. When we don't take precautions, we leave our personal safety in the hands of strangers, relying on them being good. I was abused by one of the two people who was always supposed to love, protect and shield me. If my own father can't be relied on to not do awful things, then I sure as hell aren't relying on strangers to be decent. I don't see or speak to my father ever, I do that for my own safety. I'm not victim-blaming myself for being abused and not leaving sooner by now going no contact with him, I'm taking control of my own safety, I am no longer leaving my safety in his hands. Not drinking around men, not walking down alleys, not wearing sexy clothing, these are all things we can do to reduce our risk of being attacked. We should be able to do those things whenever we want, but some people are scum and they see these things as to mean "easy prey." The fault always lies on the perpetrator, they are the one who chose to attack, they are the reason the attack took place and if you remove them from the scenario, then nothing bad would have happened. So it doesn't matter if you took precautions or not, the fault is still on the perpetrator. But, taking precautions can reduce your risk, the same way wearing a seatbelt can reduce your risk of dying in a car crash, and following road rules can reduce your risk of an accident.

[@dubbula]

Good point, perpetrators were sometimes victims themselves in the past.

[@Danny-qq5nr]

Single mum gets a house and never works, I know plenty

[@chriswatson1698]

You have obviously not cared for a small child. When a woman takes all the responsibility for the care of a child, she is investing in the earning capacity of the child's father at the expense of her own.

[@naviifra2374]

How can you work and take care of a child at the same time? Dumbo

[@SMacCuUladh]

@@chriswatson1698 lolz, a woman doesn't take all the responsibility for the care of a child, most of that responsibility is taken by the taxpayer.

[@chriswatson1698]

@@SMacCuUladh Not so. A mother is tied to the child's needs 24/7 until it goes to school. The material needs of the child are tiny in comparison to its care needs.

[@fox1actual]

@@chriswatson1698 it’s almost as if she should’ve picked a better man to have a child with. Don’t breed if you’re not married.

[@ekaterinab6064]

i love statistics. when taken in the correct context, it is nice we have something to rely on that is observed fact, not just ideology. we need to be practical.

[@phalynwilliams4119]

This guy sounds very defensive. I wonder about his background.

[@songscoops4205]

That's life...she's been reading about it in a history book...

[@cathrynevans5196]

You should teach this woman to open her mouth and speak clearly. She’s really hard to hear, perhaps she was inappropriately too far away from her microphone. It’s painful to try to listen to her.🤮. Even though I essentially agree with the things she has to say.

[@simplelifelost]

Louise speaks the truth.

[@benphilips7235]

All in all I think she's absolutely right. And I speak as a man who is quite aware of the effects of alcohol on our behaviour around women.

[@Martin-jd3oc]

She’s not coming at any of these issues from a moral perspective. It is entirely about pragmatism. The risks for bad outcomes increase tremendously if one choses to ignore what she is saying. Why is that so hard to understand?

[@thelimey351]

The virtue signalling presenters were virtually having apoplexy over her statements but in terms of the data what she was saying wasn’t remotely controversial.

[@deelot1]

She is right.

[@Vahmrick60]

I haven't even watched this and I already have a solution. Don't get drunk at all. Smoke weed instead. When was the last time anyone was ever seduced or put in a compromising situation with weed? You just don't hear it.

[@naviifra2374]

Why is she whispering?

[@ritafernandes7218]

This is so heterodox, wow! 🤯I have never heard this before , definitely not in the recent past from notable voices like Jordan Peterson etc

[@aaronjamesmoore757]

if it was'nt for booze and council estate slappers i would have never got laid lol

[@SMacCuUladh]

maybe you'd be happier now without chlamydia?

[@reasonablyserious]

Probably shouldn't have then

[@aaronjamesmoore757]

@@reasonablyserious lol only joking, they all hold a special place in my heart really

[@CARambolagen]

"Contraception" in ancient times included infanticide...

[@Zerradable]

Oh boy... Not only we now have to bare with woke lunatics, we still have to handle religious psychos.

[@CARambolagen]

@@Zerradable Well the US and the Vatican are the centres of religious lunacy. It's sickening...

[@jenniferlawrence2701]

@@Zerradable He or she is objectively correct though.

[@chrisjenkins9978]

People get drunk in order to lower their inhibitions so they can do things that they wouldn’t do when they are sober.

[@SMacCuUladh]

what? no they don't. No one says, 'I'm going to get drunk so I can eat crap food I normally wouldn't, or kiss some man I normally find disgusting' people drink to relax, the other stuff are secondary results.

[@chrisjenkins9978]

@@SMacCuUladh - Alcohol is drug, it’s a depressant. People don’t drink it because it taste good. It actually taste pretty awful. That’s why you have to load it up with sugar or get used to the taste. People drink alcohol to get physically high. They don’t drink it for it’s nutritional value. They drink it because it lowers their anxiety among strangers. Alcohol is the perfect plausible deniability excuse for questionable behavior. You can always blame the booze and that’s the point.

[@tammime]

What's the fun in that?!

[@ronrobins3513]

5:23 I think the same applies to gun ownership

[@BNK2442]

This reminds me of the book "Does she call it r*?", about women on women sexual violence.

[@steffihaas7490]

Could these two presenters be any more prejudiced and judgmental? Who in their right mind would advocate for single parent households, broken families and women making themselves easy targets? When you state the obvious, namely that children of a married and stable mother and father are more successful, healthier and more resilient, you are not discriminating against or speaking poorly of people who (have to) live in less ideal circumstances. Only an adult with poorly developed confidence or intelligence would feelthink so. Funny how statistics are challenged when it doesn't suit their own ideas of the world, when in reality it is so that we all know this to be true even if there were no studies. And even funnier that they accuse her of being against men when her advice is to the benefit of both sexes. You cannot make this bs up.

[@StephensCrazyHour]

I don't think I've heard an interview so aggressive before. The journalists here were so hostile.

[@DreamCatcher-wg1bk]

I totally like her knowledge grasp and views, but her way of talking needs a bit of change I feel. Good for a sit down one - one conversation, but when you are trying to reach wider audience, a bit of stressing on the important points while presenting will be great.

[@chrismaddock598]

Incorrect, you can't be mum & dad.. you can only be mum or dad! Mothers don't teach their sons to respect women, fathers do! If a man actually had a father, then there is no reason you can't drink alcohol around them!

[@khansvirtualdiary]

🪢🌄

[@IlonggoDad]

i'd get drunk with Louise.

[@istayanonymous9070]

These journos need a flogging.

[@jennyaskswhy]

She's such a 'nice girl'

[@dannysullivan3951]

Kinda like a female Jordan Peterson with a little less hysterics.

[@khaderlander2429]

This suggestion is holy unethical, it will dry up the sexual hook up culture, since there is power imbalance when it comes to sexual access, a woman who is a bit tipsy has un impaired judgment, which brings the power imbalance to a neutral position and gives men an edge to get what they want.

[@aalliaandreadis5109]

This is good old feminism. Nothing new about it.

[@RealHuman-mb1ry]

3:20;No not “equally”. You’ve just been told that statistically speaking children do better in families where they are living with their biological parents, and you’re countering with what is merely an opinion.😮 If you can’t present a counter argument based on data, you should concede the point and ask about the impact on children of living in a blended family.

[@amlkfnew]

Imagine you were given the responsibility to care for everyone in our society. They were all important to you. Would you then disregard the statistic of the one or two individuals (In reality many, many more) who suffered rape or abuse? No these individuals would matter, their pain would matter and if you knew you could support advice and values like take care and drink in the pressence of women and not with men alone, or mind who you have sex with, (this goes for men too, because men should take take who they want to run the risk of having children with or give their heart to aswell,) or you could advocate for commitment of marriage in terms of child rearing for the sake of both the man and woman and their children, would that become inconsequential? If you knew those things to be more likely to be protective for those who where in your care on a societal and individual level?

[@GJSINNWWW]

Freedom is nothing without responsibility. Don't want to wake up tied to a bed, don't get shitfaced in public. It's that simple.

[@DeeTeaDee]

Where is this magical all female place where the alcohol flows tho??? I don’t get the proposition?? So women should only get drunk with other women? As opposed to what? Most women DO go out with only other women…. ….But guess what… There are MEN at these places too! 😱 Has this girl never been out out? 😂

[@alicebarneto171]

She is very clear and correct in her argument. It isn't women drinking in the company of men that is a problem, but women getting drunk in the company of men, familiar or strange I guess, that makes her vulnerable! The counter argument about driving used by the female journalist was illogical!!

[@nowherepeople3431]

She makes a solid argument. What a charming woman.