Automotive Brake Plumbing Breakdown and Mustang Project Catch Up

[@UBBERTANKER]

nicopp line is my favorite, bends easy, flares perfect, and doesnt rust. This is all i use on customers cars as most of the cost of brake lines is in the labor so you sell better line that never fails and you get a happier customer

[@AutoEdits]

+UBBERTANKER Thanks for the tip on the NiCopp lines! I may switch up and use that stuff because it looks so cool and if it is easier to work with...WIN WIN!

[@Supradrew]

I took a "Break" from my Netflix binge watching to check out your new video Jason. And I'm glad I did too. I've always wondered how the flaring tools worked. And now I know. I'm also glad to hear you've been busy with the Motor Trend guys and are staying busy. ttyl -Drew

[@AutoEdits]

+Supradrew™ Lol, thanks Drew! Yes, unfortunately work has been a little too busy and the Mustang is going slower than I'd like but all is well otherwise so I'll just count my blessings...hope you are doing well my friend!

[@Supradrew]

+autoedit I'm doing ok. Livin' the dream. lol :)

[@GunfightersINC]

doing this same build on my 69 fastback and these videos are extremely helpful in getting it done.. (doing the TCP front suspension this weekend.) You're the man Jason.

[@AutoEdits]

+GunfightersINC That's awesome to hear, thank so much.... I know I've said this before but the 69 Fastback is my favorite!

[@MustangConnection1]

Digging the updates Jason, looking good, that pedal set up is sweet.

[@AutoEdits]

+MustangConnection1 Thanks so much! It's a bunch of little things like the pedals that are going to make this car SO much fun to drive!

[@homeonthewaves]

Excellent video, I have been really looking forward to this update. Many thanks from the UK for your inspiring guidance.

[@AutoEdits]

+marine50k Thanks and of course...glad you took a moment to say hey!

[@joshe7082]

ive been watching ur vids alot since there the only ones i can find of total control products stuff. I have a 68 that i will one day put the total control products coil over system on. keep up the good work man cant wait to see more vids pop up.

[@brianorfant1125]

The wheels look AWESOME! I will be routing brakelines in my son's car and will use rivnuts as well. The aerospace industry has been using rivnuts in limited access areas for years now.

[@bryceforadory5175]

Finally i can't wait to see the final product

[@mikemacpherson7135]

I like the clutch and brake master cylinder rearrangement!! So clean!! And very nice job on the install of brake lines!!

[@lokihallow]

I can't wait to see more!

[@chuyserna7133]

you work with roadkill!!!! That show is the best

[@AutoEdits]

+jesus nunez Yup, those guys are fun. Plus the cars are fairly awesome.

[@rogerramjet5092]

Vary cool was begining to despair that you had not just back burnered old Large Marge but taken her off the stove all together. I have bit of a soft spot for this chassis but have NEVER seen any kind of grip, G-machine/pro-touring build and the roots blown 302. Is also vary much of interest to me. Paricularly with EFI should be a runner and a half can't wait to see it running loose on a road coarse some where. PS thanks for the video on measuring for wheels that was the first time I had seen it done. This way not relying on internet he said to fit larger combos front and rear. Please stay the coarse. I think the shorter quick little updates are a great idea and say keep'em cummin. Thanks Jason

[@AutoEdits]

+roger depew Thanks for the very valuable input! I really appreciate when some of the things I do help out other people. Yes, this project has a few odd parts but it's more about things that I really want to have on my vehicle. Those are the things that makes this so personal! Thanks for sticking with the build and taking the time to say hey!

[@joemoreno5951]

thanks for sharing your build to me its worth the wait love the car and what you are doing to it. keep em coming thanks

[@emmanuelluna7477]

I love that car, I have a 73 mustang alike. greetings from Mexico

[@AutoEdits]

+Emmanuel Luna Howdy and I'm glad to hear that you like your Mustang!

[@charlesleblanc1956]

Glad to see an update. I am overwhelmed by the amount of things to complete for this build. Did you write down a list of things to do on the Mustang ?

[@AutoEdits]

+Charles Leblanc Howdy Charles, I know it gets overwhelming for me too...I don't have a list yet. There's so much that I just keep doing the things in front of me and know that at some point it will become closer and I'll make a final plan. You'll be along for the whole trip so we'll see how it goes.

[@ShnitzlHaus]

id like to see what you use to make your bends on the brake lines, and how you go about laying out and planning your bends to fit what your working with. I am soon going to be doing brake lines on my modified CJ2A Willys Jeep and its going to see plenty of mud water etc so I think stainless is the way. good to see you back :)

[@AutoEdits]

+ShnitzlHaus Thanks dude! That Willys sounds like a great project. I'll try to get another vid up with more plumbing stuff soon as well. But here's a tip I learned from a friend that might work even better for your CJ, use mild steel brake lines for your plumbing and then paint them before final install and they'll last for a LONG time.

[@ShnitzlHaus]

I was thinking that also! any thoughts on the copper nickel lines? if you like to see more on the willys check into my channel every now and then spring I should have allot of how to videos up.

[@AutoEdits]

+ShnitzlHaus I dig the copper lines, never used them so I'm curious how they are to work with. I will definitely be looking for more on your Willys!

[@number3665]

I've been waiting forever for this haha. Lets get this 73 Moose on the road again

[@bryceforadory5175]

Yes me too

[@AutoEdits]

+number3665 Me three...I like calling this thing a Moose!!!!

[@bryceforadory5175]

+autoedit I'm building a 78 Ford F-150 I would really like to put an engine in it like you have for large Marge

[@ozgultekin6100]

Jason, you make me wanna tear apart my 2013 sonata and rebuild :)) looking forward to seeing more builds.

[@rdspeedfab]

For the brake line, are all fittings -3? This makes me want to redo my entire brake system. I used mild steel. Not because it was easiest, I just didn't know about anything else. Keep the videos coming!

[@AutoEdits]

In this system almost all the connections are either -3 or 1/8 NPT. I learned about this new material from a viewer on the you tube so we all are always learning. Thanks!

[@randallraines6553]

Great work Jason! Awesome build you got going on brother!

[@Mike87S]

I was bummed to hear you sold the car love the content! Do you recall the master cylinder bore sizes used for this pedal setup? I will be ordering the same setup on my 71 fastback. Thank you so much !

[@AutoEdits]

I wasn't stoked on having to sell it. The master cylinders were 3/4" for front brakes and clutch and 7/8" for rear brakes. Worked perfect.

[@shadleybam3140]

Major respect man. You got yourself a subscriber

[@AutoEdits]

Thanks so much and Welcome!!!

[@thepunisher3597]

im also building a 73 hard top but im leaving mine with the mad max look on the outside but fresh and clean under the hood.

[@AutoEdits]

+The Punisher Cool!

[@keitht6557]

Glad you are building and showing your "hey, it's a guy in his garage" project. That's why I like Roadkill and the like so much. My 39 Plymouth show quality car is expensive and slow to build and complete. My 400,000 mile 90 C1500 guy in his garage truck is going to be faster and more fun to drive. Cuz I can drive it and not worry about it so much. I might not even paint it. Just have to fix the damn drivers door that won't close right!

[@UGAgeorgiaDAWG]

Very nice work!!

[@AutoEdits]

+UGAgeorgiaDAWG Thanks a bunch!!!

[@Tact-Mack0397]

Happy New Years sir and YESSSSS another video

[@AutoEdits]

+Mackenzie Yarbough Thanks dude and Happy New Year to you!

[@98snakehorse]

"Now what happens on a SINGLE flare" lol I caught your edit :) Great vids man!

[@AutoEdits]

+98snakehorse I know right...lol In these videos I'm trying to just do one (or two) takes and slap it together for export to save time so I can do more of them. Now I just have to be better at talking...could be a challenge.

[@tommyboy1two]

Thank you Jason

[@AutoEdits]

+tommyboy1two Haha, thank you!

[@David-kp4gx]

The AN fittings give it that custom look, and are more reliable. That’s mostly what we use in aviation.

[@AutoEdits]

I like them.

[@Tonypower45]

Great vid! Question, where did you get the 37' cone flair tool? I have a good blue point double flair kit but cannot find a 37' cone for a single flair!

[@AutoEdits]

www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900311

[@YaMoBeThereAbout]

Great video! Why did you use flexi lines to the rear calipers? They don't move in relation to the axle. From factory there was only one flexi from body to axle. As far as I can remember lol it's been ages since I took the brakes off.

[@AutoEdits]

I put the flex lines there because it will make it a little easier to service those calipers and rotors in the future... instead of disconnecting hardline to move them I now have a little room to work with.

[@russelljones6653]

Nice touches on your brake system. I'm doing some very similar things on my cars. I'm curious though because I really like what you're doing at the firewall - I've always been told that brake lines should have as few junctions as possible and that flexible lines always add some level of sponginess to the system. You added both to your system - is what I've been told over the years not applicable any more (which is entirely possible since I'm old :-) ) or are you making some trade-offs for serviceability and looks?

[@AutoEdits]

Yes, it is best to design a brake system with as few fittings as possible since each one is an "opportunity" for a leak but in my experience...making solid flares and using care never game me any problems. About the flex lines...a few high quality braided steel lines will not make for a spongey pedal...rubber, you betcha.

[@russelljones6653]

Thanks for the response!! That gives me some more options and will make my redo of my early 70's brakes easier and they will look better. I've upgraded to 13" disks up front and will be changing my rear drums to 11.5" disks in the rear. Since I have to eliminate the factory proportioning and add after market your demo is a big help...

[@AutoEdits]

That's great to hear! Sounds like you have a pretty sporty hot rod in the works there...You'll be happier with an adjustable proportioning valve in the future!

[@motecalevol]

You CAN use 45 degree double flare fittings on stainless lines. But the stainless has to be an annealed tubing. Summit racing Part Number:SUM-220256 works great! The double annealed stainless WILL NOT split - no pre-heat required!!!!

[@sirranger7713]

Can you put a link for the end fitting set you used? I can’t find them :(

[@TheSamplebridge]

hey I just traded the 302 for a black interior and bought a 351w c6 (i m gonna put the 3 speed man. up to it)

[@superinnovated]

Great builder may i ask what size wheels an tires you went with ? model too ET mags

[@AutoEdits]

They are TeamIII wheels 17x9 in the front and 18x10 in the rear. Here is a link to the website: www.etmags.com/lt_iii.html

[@1400IntruderVS]

great show

[@muscletruck1246]

Do you think nicopp is as strong as OEM brakeline? I'm running a Hydroboost setup that builds up to 1800 psi...... or am I better off going to Stainless steel brake line instead? Thanks, MuscleTruck

[@Palacios29]

I was told that doble flare is required for break lines , you didn't show how to do doble flare, any ways I'm working in my 60 ranchero ,thanks for the info ,keep up the good work

[@AutoEdits]

Yes, manufacturers use double or bubble flares but it's not a requirement for me... plus if you are using stainless brake lines you can only single flare them.

[@Palacios29]

Tnx for the advice, appreciate it

[@josepmanong8086]

Question: You mentioned that you were able to use all AN fittings strait to the caliper. Now what adapters would we need if we were to use the stock hose or hose fittings?

[@AutoEdits]

Simple, just use 3/8" NPT to banjo bolt style adapters or whatever is stock on your vehicle.

[@jorasahota9108]

hey jason, can you tell me where i can get those fittings from. digging the blue. thanks

[@AutoEdits]

I got all the brake fittings from either summitracing.com or jegs.com just type -3 an fittings

[@ab_customz_llc]

Can you please provide me with where to buy the 37* single flared ends that you used on the small piece of SS line? I can't find the little collar and the nut anywhere to go with the nicopp 3/16" line. Thanks.

[@leather_man55herbert26]

Hello can you tell me where you got the fitting for the brake light switch , would be very helpfull thamnks

[@AutoEdits]

www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/63070K1/10002/-1?gclid=Cj0KCQiAt66eBhCnARIsAKf3ZNGYW4pp0R6QSYm0FyXY9JFumNJSvC8lX88gKsPBljjk99AxRnHmzxEaAglWEALw_wcB

[@davidthayer6969]

I have never plumbed a brake system before. I really wish in these videos somebody could be VERY specific on which flare to use for which application. In addition WHERE to get the parts. NOBODY stocks this stuff anymore. I got on line and it said Autozone carried Nicopp brake line.......so I went in the store and asked the guy behind the counter for a roll of Nicopp brake line........he looked at me like I had two heads............I had to explain it to him.........so he goes in the back and after a lengthy time returns with a coil of black STEEL line...........I said, NO, I need Nicopp to which he appeared frustrated with me............so I go in the back with him and show him what I want..........then fittings.......yea they have a whole rack of fittings........NONE OF WHICH are anything like those shown in these videos.

[@AutoEdits]

Go to www.eastwood.com/ and look around. All the info you need is there.

[@Joe.Dillion]

do they make a front supension package for the comet / mavrick or can the mustang package be made to work on it

[@AutoEdits]

+rttguy1969 They do, just head to the website in the description and check it out!

[@Joe.Dillion]

+autoedit so will the mustang kit work under a mavrick looked on the site only saw mustang falcon fairlane thanks for the help

[@AutoEdits]

+rttguy1969 I believe the 65-66 Mustang stuff works for the Mavericks but give them a call up there at TCP...they are pretty awesome about trying to help out!

[@kyle6speedpickup585]

What master cylinder did you use?

[@alexcorona]

What happened to the Maverick?

[@theepicamerican1620]

5:23 I heard that! ;)

[@AutoEdits]

+Eat Bacon Got me on that one!

[@georgespangler1517]

Can't beat that,,,we will just change them all,,and know they have the same ohm value, really not good to mismatch ignion parts

[@ldnwholesale8552]

As someone who uses what is in stock and what is KISS stainless lines and the alloy fittings are just pure wank. For 99.9% of all jobs mild steel is the best, these days it has to be the plastic coated stuff to be road legal. It is a bit harder to work with but a LOT better than stainless. The zinced copper stuff is very nice to work with but if you are undoing and doing up fittings as you do with road race cars it is not very durable,, and for off road use [inc the normal road 4wd] it dents far to easily. And is not legal yet again. Using more than required flexible hose is not good either, better than rubber ofcourse but ONLY from the chassis to calliper and chassis to rear axle. Every bit of flexible hose means a softer pedal. I have seen 'experts' who have learnt that. For race use aeroquip style steel fittings are fine but not for road use, they must be swaged and have standards markings, annoying but fact. It seems that in the US standards for road cars are not enforced,, but crash and then the shit hits the fan. I suspect especially in litigous USA. For the stuff on You Tube with Roadkill etc and Drag week here in Oz we would be arrested. And go for a roadworthy inspection most of those cars would never see the street again. All of the above people find [and are told] getting hot rods and the like registered. Pedal boxes can be very nice on road cars but in reality are a waste of time and money on a streeter. And generally alters pedal ratio as well. And those Fords have a big long pedal. Doing away with the booster , 7/8 m/c and an adjustable brake bias valve is all that is needed,, and all that is used on many succesfull race cars as well. And some still use boosters. While a lot of it is B/S a lot of it makes a lot of sense for us old farts!

[@turbomopie]

What cage are you going with?

[@AutoEdits]

Thinking about getting a cage from Chris Alstons Chassiworks. They make a great modular system that I might try out.