2024 Peugeot E208 - So close, and yet.......

[@Alberto-mq7gw]

Stellantis (and former PSA) CEO went for high margins since he arrived. That meant reducing costs in new developments and reuse old platforms with outdated technology and outdated security, then add a premium look and feel in and out to the cars and price them accordingly to that premium look. And it worked so well for them that they don't seem willing to change their strategy. Let's see for how much longer they can get customers to pay so much for products that are made with the smallest investment on their part. For now I'm glad that at least some reviewers are telling things how they are. Good review, thanks.

[@ISuperTed]

They are fantasy prices - no one pays them. Go on-line and you’ll see discounts up to £10,000 for these and easily £5,000 for any spec. They aren’t making high margins on these, probably no profit at all. Stellantis do this across all their brands.

[@Alberto-mq7gw]

@@ISuperTed All brands have discounts. It doesn't change the fact I stated above. Just check the profits from PSA in the 8 years (2006-2013) prior to the arrival of Tavares as CEO and the 8 years after his arrival on 2014. How did he do it? To quote Wikipedia: "Tavares became CEO and chairman of the managing board of Groupe PSA in 2014, replacing Philippe Varin. During his tenure, he spearheaded cost-cutting measures and increased the company's market share in China, which returned Groupe PSA back to profitability after several years of losses. [...] As CEO, he gathered praise for the PSA take over of Opel and return to profitability of Opel, and for PSA's record sales and profits." And check Euroncap crash test results in these years for their products, or the infotainment systems they've had. But then compare how their products look and feel outside and inside. Premium clothes over cheap base, at above mainstream prices.

[@davidperry7128]

@@ISuperTed Yep I got a big discount, outrageously high trade in for an old Citroen, free extras like paint and wallbox and the French subsidy that you won't get on non Eu cars.

[@bjorn2625]

@@ISuperTedcan confirm this is still the case - with a broker you can get those brand new, top spec for £25 grand.

[@jedrek0129]

Right now in Poland you can find dealerships that offer them as a 2 years loan, no starting fees etc for about 100 dollars/month lol @@bjorn2625

[@DavidAtkinson-cd3os]

Is it shadow or is the driver's door a slightly different colour from the rest of the vehicle? I noticed that it has a rear wash wipe, why leave it off from the 3008. I didn't even look at that car because of the lack of a rear wash wipe and went the Skoda route

[@AppleUK2000]

Amazing car! Bravo Peugeot another alluring car with futuristic design and premium feel. Would choose no other brand 🦁 Well priced as well

[@ISuperTed]

Darn, thought I’d be first but no! I have a 2022 e208 and it’s a great little car, perfect as our second car and as long as you don’t expect it to go more than 180 miles, comfortable, nippy and a pleasure to own (with cheap home charging). Of course, mines leased not bought as the list price is quite frankly ridiculous! Might buy a used one in a year or so though, a low mileage now is a bargain but I do wish Stellantis wouldn’t put up these fake list prices - you can easily get £5 to £8k off on-line.

[@sIightIybored]

You're being had! they're more than £10k off brand new never mind lightly used.

[@Popdog76]

These have better range than pre 23 models

[@ISuperTed]

@@sIightIyboredI lease mine , but you’re right I’d expect more off if I bought used. Probably looking for £15k a year to 18 months old which is 60% off new.

[@frankbergin772]

Another excellent review and test, thank you! Just bought a Citroen eC4 ....but as a fully loaded low mileage demo. As an elder lemon myself I am on a Very steep learning curve, and have just ordered a paper copy of the owners manual as I still find that Essential as an ongoing reference. Again I find your testing and comments objective, balanced and fair. Frank (Dublin).

[@robsmith1a]

Dealers of Stellantis brands of cars seem pretty good at offering discounts over list. In many ways it would make sense to start with a lower list price. I really like the E-208 in terms of styling and interior. I test drove the original model and it was great but I couldn't quite justify spending the money (I do very low mileage so older used cars make much more sense to me).

[@dashokeykokey]

There are some great deals on pre registered models with delivery mileage at the minute. £20k for a 24 plate with 10 miles - all of a sudden it’s a much more appealing prospect

[@andy5786]

Really like the Peugeot 208 electric nice great review 👍

[@AutoEV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@GeorgeKillaspy]

Another great video and I have to agree - they've messed up the pricing. However... Peugeot do seem to have noticed they've messed up the pricing, so they're offering 0% finance and £4k deposit contribution - coupled with dealers offering hefty discounts. The top spec GT can be had for £26k and no interest - making it £100s/month cheaper than an MG4/Renault/Corsa. No idea why they don't just acknowledge that and knock £10k off the advertised retail price - it would be so easy to recommend!

[@Popdog76]

MG4 and Megane are bigger and better cars let alone EVs

[@bjorn2625]

MG4 is definitely better value. And it’s definitely more spacious. Bet a better EV? Not sure…

[@Dr23rippa]

Exactly lol the whole car market is struggling bad except to see some absolute bargains in 2025 some car brands are going bankrupt and some are leaving the UK market. As you said 0% interest when the car is already £10k over what one should pay for a mini car like this is ridiculous. Sly moves but 2025 will put them all in place

[@bjorn2625]

Can’t believe they didn’t update the piano keys to change the aircon temperature. The most basic thing is still touch-screen only.

[@Roadie1980]

How far can I expect to go on a single charge with this new battery over all seasons?

[@AutoEV]

How long is a piece of string??? Too many variables to give a definitive answer. That is the reality of BEVs I’m afraid.

[@michaelbanks7776]

Hope the paint warranty is good enough to get the drivers door sorted. Shocking!

[@AutoEV]

There really wasn’t anyway to hide that! You should have seen it in the metal!

[@AutoEV]

You and me both!

[@tutsbro5610]

Why don't we get e208 Allure reviews .

[@AutoEV]

Because the press cars tend to be GT’s. When we book a press car, we don’t have a say in the trim level they send unfortunately.

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Thanks for this👍 To bad it is so expensive.Opel Corsa e have more normal,logical instrument cluster.

[@nicholasfoster6255]

You have got one thing incorrect. The Heat Pump is not standard in any e version. Its a £400 extra. So not standard.

[@AutoEV]

Not sure about that. Press pack and every release I’ve seen says that a heat pump is standard on the e208.

[@davidperry7128]

Heat pump IS standard in France. So likely in UK.

[@davidperry7128]

Range - I am getting 5 miles/8 km per kWh, range of 240miles, 384km. In Eco, French country roads. Very comfortable. Buying in France massive discounts.

[@randomguy9893]

Nobody pays list price for a Peugeot. Renault Megane won’t be discounted half as much.

[@bjorn2625]

I could find about £6000 off a Megane through a broker and £10000 off an e-208.

[@neil492]

I'm living in France, just hired the e208 for a 2 day business trip. On the motorway, 80 % battery /270km range drops to 23% after 86km ! I think the range isn't good enough. It's very compatible in feel to non-electric cars for people unfamiliar with electric. I've hired the MG4 in the past which I think I'd prefer. The e208 is better made but the silver at the bottom the screen reflects into the driver's eyes in full sunlight(maybe not important in the UK 🤣) I've just spent 10minutes trying to find the regen braking! I agree with your summarisation, it's good but... It's a competitive sector and Peugeot for me doesn't say "luxury brand" ! Also, for people in the UK, pass the word around, Citroën is pronounced "Citro-Enn" ! If you say "citron" then that's just "lemon", which isn't far from the truth either...

[@davidperry7128]

So you are saying you use 57% of the battery to do 86km so your range is 150km. Are you driving on motorways above the speed limit in Sport? Either that or you are trolling.

[@neil492]

@@davidperry7128 I live in France. Motorway is 130kmh. The car was on hire so it was the entry level model battery. The autonomy was less than acceptable in my opinion. The next hire I did was for a Citroen C4 electric with a long range battery. Way better. I know a guy who works at a Renault dealership. he brought round the new Scenic last night, very impressive, and it has a range of 900km. He admitted that you struggle to get 500 on the autoroute. I used to really hate Renault for the poor build quality, but their electrics are pretty good.

[@markymarkreviews]

Have come to this review a bit late but interested as our 2020 e-208 is now 3.5 years old. Been brilliant so far. Fun and fast enough and plenty of gadgets (GT model). Interested in the updated version. This review was excellent and comprehensive. Hugely disappointing that after this length of time Peugeot have hardly improved it all. Battery just a tiny bit bigger, no frunk, no underfloor storage etc. And charging WAY MORE ££ for it. You are the only reviewer who has picked up on the 2-3" dead travel at the top brake pedal, and even this has not been improved !!

[@MizraPaul]

The pricing is as shocking as the colour match of the doors @2:11

[@granfersteve3815]

A big price hike for very little change or improvement from the sounds of things.

[@RedBatteryHead]

STLA got way to high prices on all models. Only the new mini's seem to get sensible.

[@Koulis_]

Shouldn't really labour the subject of price as discounts are readily obtainable.

[@clipsonplextorfield3230]

Not a EV platform avoiding this!

[@mbvalency]

it drives well, waiting for mine to arrive hopefully soon

[@clipsonplextorfield3230]

@@mbvalency Congrats. Im still looking to aford my main family ev that can fit us and get us further than 150km between charging

[@ISuperTed]

Umm - this is an EV channel so why comment if you’re not interested in EV’s?

[@clipsonplextorfield3230]

@@ISuperTed there is a huge difference between a ground up ev and a converted ICE

[@happysporran]

Deluded pricing from Peugeot

[@2011ppower]

The lease cost of the new version is way too high. But the "bargain basement" version has a stripped out spec and pretty limited range especialy in winter.☹

[@Petelmrg]

There seems to be an obsession with enormous wheels 'filling the arches' on cars these days - but they've put black arches on this making the wheels look small. Hmmmm.

[@dcvariousvids8082]

16” and 17” are enormous? Do you drive a 1960s Mini?

[@Petelmrg]

@@dcvariousvids8082 - yes I did; and for many, many years virtually all popular cars ran on 13 inch wheels which made tyres much cheaper with no availability problems we have today with the hundred of different variations. I don’t yearn for the non-existent ‘good old days’ but this pointless obsession with big wheels and the inevitable rim damage we get on our pot-holed roads does seem bonkers.

[@davidpearn5925]

You'd have to worry about BYD out of Hungary.

[@piglet5287]

Im running a 2020 208 130 and feel that this facelift has just slightly spoiled the design. The 17" alloys on the early Allures were prettier and I prefer a single "fang". But in truth, I'm bored with it by now. One problem with strongly styled cars is that they date quickly, especially where the features are purely aesthetic e.g. the fangs, or the pointless bulging window- line on the DS3. The French seem to go in for styling embellishments like these. Whereas a plainer car, like a Polo or Fabia, never really turns heads but is relatively timeless.

[@stphnwheeler]

A Great Review. Most people know that Peugeots are just Fiats, Vauxhalls, Citroens dressed in much bling and makeup, so spending hundreds extra on a Peugeot over a Citroen, Fiat or Vauxhall makes little sense. I like what Renault are doing at the moment. They are taking risks and designing great cars again. The Renault 5, I think will deservedly deal the Peugeot 208 and Fiat 500 a bloody nose.

[@svord00]

Better to just buy the Kia EV3 for the price

[@contra_plano]

For i subscrive you have to use km

[@barrymurton8988]

As said, it’s over priced. Looks good but it going to loose out to cheaper models!

[@amirbabfish]

from 35.000 euro in Belgium for the base model. still too much

[@pupacila26]

bottom line, I'm not paying 35k euros for this small car, nobody does. Small cars should be around 25k.

[@bjorn2625]

And indeed that is what you can find the electric version for, through brokers.

[@pupacila26]

Dude, 42 minutes for a car that already exists? :|

[@AutoEV]

And many people are looking to buy it, so we produce in-depth videos to help them with their decision.

[@michaelenglund]

Stop doing the teenager plug. We subscribe if we think it is good enough!

[@davidpearn5925]

Why don't Brits TAKE BACK CONTROL and get the indicator BACK on to the correct side of the column........like the good old days of Austin, Morris, MG etc.......right ?.

[@Dinkydoo43]

er..because it would add further cost to design and manufacturing and therefore to the customer? I’m happy as is.

[@davidpearn5925]

@@Dinkydoo43 so you must wonder why BYD bother doing it properly for both markets.

[@kevinnicholson7722]

@@davidpearn5925 buy a BYD then

[@davidpearn5925]

@@kevinnicholson7722 I talk from a position of significant experience. Tesla won't attempt to compete in cars unless they are protected.

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Stellantis is a European brand. What has Britain got to do with Europe these days? Besides, no matter the side, you get used to it.