Volvo scraps EV-only 2030 target, because: reality | Auto Expert John Cadogan

[@AutoExpertJC]

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[@VERGIS92]

what's your opinion on the 'vane internal combustion' engine concept? if it can be implemented, can it really have up to 70% energy efficency?

[@jukeseyable]

Geometric = Exponential ? greetings from south wales, the old one. 😉

[@julesviolin]

Once you understand ohms law you'll realise how much energy is required to charge an EV.😅 John has quantified that numerous times previously I'm sure on here You'll then realise you need a ¼ the size of a football pitch of solar panels to charge an EV. 8 domestic panels on a house might get you 10 miles of charge per day 😅 I remember as a kid pedalling a bicycle at an alternative energy centre in Wales in 1985. Bicycle had a generator on it powering a 100 watt 💡. I'll never forget the effort required to overcome the resistance to get that bulb to glow just slightly . That really hit home how I quantify energy

[@davidhancock91]

Volvo Cars in the 70s/80s/90s were well built , safe, and super reliable. Now they are just a name and a memory 😅

[@davidshanahan5134]

MGs were never any of those things, and they too are just a name and a memory.

[@NeilBarratt]

All the British and European premium brands are selling on reputations built in the last century.

[@johnwade1095]

Geoff buys cars.

[@rambleon3698]

Premium....haha....​@@NeilBarratt

[@davidshanahan5134]

@@pmrose18 I agree

[@djedUVprojector]

Europe has handed the complete domestic car manufacturing industry to the Chinese without a gunshot and for free. This is why politics matters...

[@iboswell]

Substitute Europe for Politicians

[@bluddyrowdy8757]

@iboswell Heheheh, and their expired 'subsidies'......

[@markrobinson1458]

The Chinese long term plan is working, they've been buying up resources for decades across the globe, mines,ports and farms, all strategically thought through. The problem won't go away until countries start manufacturing again, but the greedy CEOs of this world, saw the potential in cheap labour in China😢

[@VictorMaxol]

Seriously, 20 years ago as China was taking over manufacturing I used to wonder why they didn't do cars too. I guess they plan long term over there.

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

Chinese people work cheaper than Europe ons !!!!

[@davidhancock91]

My wife’s family live in the Philippines. EVs will never, ever take off. If you are a normal family you might have one or two 100cc Honda scooters. If you are wealthy, you might also own A Toyota Yaris. If you live outside Manila and Cebu, you would be used to power brown outs, and a general lack of reliable current. People buying BYD/MG/Tesla EVs and charging them overnight at home, is never going to happen .

[@siraff4461]

A friend of mine lives half time in the Philippines and I still remember when he went for his wedding many years back. He sent me a picture of someone on a scooter (looked like a Honda Cub) which had three people on it and was towing a small trailer with what looked like a fridge balanced on top. Funny thing was there was a child on the fridge and it looked like they were either holding the fridge on or just hanging on themselves for dear life. Even the trailer had what looked like kids pushbike wheels on it. They live around 20 miles from Manilla and mostly use pushbikes or walk. Their driveway is a dirt track which is about 2 miles long and their electricity is basically a nice thought if it works. They use candles a lot and have a couple of solar panels but usually have to use their generator quite often if they actually need electricity reliably. An ev would not only be far too expensive but also pretty much completely useless to them.

[@gaufrid1956]

You are absolutely right, mate. My Filipina wife and I live in Cagayan de Oro City Mindanao. We own a four year old Honda Click 125i scooter which we bought brand new back in 2020. If we have some more money later this year or early next year we might buy a 4x4 Multicab with a Suzuki 660cc turbo three cylinder engine. They come in van and dual cab pickup versions. Priced just under 400,000 pesos, which is a little over $10,000 AUD. Of course, they are ICE, and the engine in them is the same one that Caterham in England use in their entry level sports car based on the venerable Lotus Seven. Those cost about 30,000 UK pounds. Oh yeah... I know brownouts well. There is never going to be the infrastructure here to support EVs, and they are far too expensive and impractical for anyone but the rich and famous here to buy. It would only be to show off.

[@randomidiot8142]

Even if you live on Cebu, power outages aren't all that infrequent. As bad as their roads are there's no way in hell am I taking a battery floored vehicle over an ice I can bounce over a tall ass speed bump, wierd road crown, or a construction area or a washed out busted up piece of road. If it weren't for the entry price a hybrid would be kinda ok. But, you'll not get away from petroleum dependence for at least another 50 years.

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

But think about all of those Elon's Robotaxi that will replace Jeepneys and Trikes.

[@tedburnard841]

I’m an Aussie expat retired in Imus, Cavite, Philippines and we have an EV. Well, sort of, it is a three wheel e-trike with about 30 odd km range and a top speed of about 45kmh, if you are game. It has a lead-acid gel cell 5 x 12 V in series and recharges in about 6hrs. No license needed but can’t drive it on major roads and definitely not on expressways. Our normal car is a 2017 Toyota Innova E 2.8 diesel auto.

[@davidhancock91]

Governments have to change these mandates. Otherwise every non Chinese car manufacturers are going to go broke.

[@tallboy49]

That is the Labour parties want. They love theChinese and are helping them to sell as many cars as possible in Australia

[@ivanmcdonald1]

Mandate? What mandate Dude

[@kamilj49]

This is the plan...

[@pantoqwerty]

@@ivanmcdonald1 the sneaky ones that involve emissions reductions that ICE vehicles (hybrid or otherwise) will simply not be able to meet. Euro IV -> Euro V -> Euro VI -> and forever onwards coupled with ULEZ schemes

[@Knowbody42]

It's almost like western politicians are in the pockets of the Chinese government.

[@samboelliott1]

I still look at early 80's Volvo station wagons with admiration.

[@Elixir9]

they were made to last a lifetime now they are made to last till the warranty expires

[@markrobinson1458]

Me too 😢

[@richardjx5442]

@@Elixir9I have a 2005 V70 and will never sell it, as it will outlive me‼️325,000km and it rides like new with only routine work and wearout brakes etc‼️

[@sullivanrachael]

‘EVs are not the right vehicle for the majority of people’ - bingo! That sums it up. I believe the policymakers in government know this, and that’s why they mandate them. They want the majority of people to be unable to own a car.

[@stuartd9741]

Maybe. But I think the push for ev technology and it's phericals, BEFORE it's widespreadly viable nationwide. Yes EVs work, but not compatible or equal in price to an ice car.. Give it another 15 years, with better battery technology (capacitor?) And real incentives to make EVs on par with ice for price and voilà an EV market will grow.. Trying to force the public, via legislation into currently unsuitable vehicles, while the industry is still trying to figure out the technology and before standardisation (of chargers/adaptors/charging rate) is the real problem here.

[@garrynuman5080]

@@stuartd9741 . governments should not waste taxpayers money subsidizing EVs. Think about it. If every light vehicle that`s made is electric, we will produce more greenhouse gases and increase global warming faster than we do now. EVs are a lie and a blot on the environment like wind turbines and solar panels.

[@Acemeistre]

Norway.

[@WRDNK]

Or a truck! Look at the steaming dumpster fire of shit trucks have become. Now your wife and kids can fit in them? Who thought that was a good idea? Can't even haul a sheet of plywood in the truck bed. Dumb af

[@Mububban23]

But the average Aussie lives in suburbia and does less than 50km per day. Many have access to home charging and don’t tow caravans either. So I don’t agree with the majority point. They could suit a lot of Aussies as the daily runabout car, but likely with the second car being ICE for many years to come for road trips and towing etc

[@chrissmith2114]

In UK we are worried more about the latest Korean car, the 'Kia Starmer', named after our new labour Prime minister, which is creating massive problems for people in UK. The Korean car maker that released the Kia Starmer has grave doubts about the vehicle after reviewers pointed out the totally awful response of the car to any inputs, they said the overall performance of the Starmer was 'very disappointing' the steering was criticised as being 'vague and insensitive' and often pulling sharply left for no reason... Despite an expensive and widespread advertising campaign the public have just not taken to the Starmer..

[@bluddyrowdy8757]

To tears Keir.... Karma is a Stunt !

[@monteceitomoocher]

Very droll, and all too accurate, would you mind if i quoted that elsewhere?.

[@christopherludlam1602]

Simply brilliant.

[@bluddyrowdy8757]

@@monteceitomoocher More the merrier Matey

[@willtricks9432]

@@bluddyrowdy8757 Better than the Indian made "DisasterCapitalist or the TrussPot.

[@Inisfad]

I think that the crunch will come when these initial EV owners decide it’s time to sell or trade in their EV’s, and find that there is literally no market for a used one.

[@k9killer221]

If EVs are the answer, it must have been a very stupid question.

[@notforyoutoknow5962]

Can't wait to hear what John has to say about fords new patent to run spyware for advertisers. Louis rossman had some entertaining words to say

[@MikoYotsuya292]

*does the south park cable guy chest rub*

[@tomparker5000]

JC did a video about that. Around a month ago, if memory... Something something

[@chasf3433]

How many countries pushing EVs on motorists have first made sure that local battery recycling capability will be in place?

[@monteceitomoocher]

If here in the UK is an example, none, in theory the spent batteries are meant to be returned to the manufacturer who then has to ship them out of the country to recycling facilities elsewhere, the reality is probably landfill or the third world because the costs of dealing with them properly must be colossal.

[@javelinXH992]

@@monteceitomoocherThere are at least two lithium battery recyclers in the UK I know of without looking further, but your point about whether they will just be dumped abroad because it is cheaper is a very valid one. This is at least part of the reason for the EU battery passport scheme, but another is that these batteries contain critical minerals that the EU does not want to lose from its territory - this is being covered by the EU Critical Raw Materials Act.

[@willtricks9432]

None

[@cherryjuice9946]

That's a good point. It's much like companies that use excessive plastic in their packaging, but don't care that over 90% of the plastic ends up in a landfill, or ocean. It's a "play now" "pay later" attitude. Short term thinking is destroying this world.

[@javelinXH992]

@@cherryjuice9946 I’ve noticed nowadays that the amount of plastic packaging has reduced significantly compared to the past. Cardboard has returned to the fore replacing a lot of plastic and styrofoam packaging. People pressure does work, it’s just a bit slow, and there is a tendency for people to give up too soon and lose confidence that things that change.

[@bunning63]

Our daily drivers are 25 and 27 years old. They are both profoundly reliable, particularly the older one. Thank you Mr Honda. Got better things to spend money on than a modern/new let alone electrickery car.

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

My 30 is old Honda Accord is doing okay 222 000 miles on it with just regular maintenance

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

But be careful of defective parts from China I got 2 defective radiators from O Reillys auto parts

[@xperyskop2475]

@bunning63 My electric leaf works fine without any maintenance it already paid for itself in fuel savings. The problem is with people pushing their life choices on others. People should be free to choose what works best for their individual cases

[@bunning63]

@@xperyskop2475 Agree, though not sure how many modern cars of either source will be around in close to thirty years.

[@apathyboy5306]

They don’t make them like they used to that is for shizzle

[@seaeagles6025]

I wonder whether Volvo EV drivers will have a Hat in the back Window and drive slow. Another great video John, thanks.

[@theairstig9164]

No back window in the polestar 4

[@seaeagles6025]

@@theairstig9164 We're talking about the VOLVO not the Polestar. 🤣😂

[@gaufrid1956]

I saw a guy online recently who carefully took apart one Energizer lithium ion battery, and tested the dangers of lithium. He placed the lithium carefully in water. In a few seconds it caught fire, then almost immediately after exploded violently. Fortunately he wasn't injured. I wonder if the dude who decided to remove a battery pack from an EV in the carpark of a rental car company at Sydney Airport, and leave the damaged battery pack out in the weather, happened to see that video? No wonder that it caught fire, destroyed four more vehicles, and could have damaged the Control Tower at the airport. All this and many more disasters waiting to happen.😢

[@javelinXH992]

The single use lithium batteries like the Energizer example are different from rechargeable ones used in EVs. Lithium batteries contain pure lithium metal which reacts with water like in the example. Lithium-ion batteries contain lithium compounds. They are still a fire risk, but the mechanism is completely different, with various chemical breakdowns occurring, especially as the solvents are quite burny (technical term). The difference between the two types matters as it gives you the engineering route to safety. Sodium ion batteries promise to be much safer mainly because their solvent is not flammable.

[@gaufrid1956]

@@javelinXH992 That makes sense. Sodium is reactive, but less so. My high school science teacher in Australia in the early seventies liked to demonstrate the reactivity of sodium, but didn't have lithium. He also liked to show how Coca Cola would remove the patina from old copper coins. He used to say "Don't drink that stuff, boys! Rots your guts!". Thanks for clarifying the difference between single batteries and lithium-ion batteries.

[@javelinXH992]

@@gaufrid1956 actually sodium is more reactive than lithium, which might be why the teacher didn’t have any (more risk). 😉 So in theory, if lithium batteries are bad, sodium ones should be worse, but they aren’t. It’s all to do with the supporting chemistry around it. So, from a fire perspective, in a lithium battery (single use, disposable type), you can blame the lithium. In a lithium ion battery, you can blame the solvents and a reaction that happens at one of the electrodes (the one with nickel and cobalt in I think)😉

[@lubricatedgoat]

And yet petrol cars are about 80x more likely to go up in flames. Odd.

[@gaufrid1956]

@@javelinXH992 Thanks for clueing me in on the chemistry. It's not my strong point.

[@thehairygolfer]

EVs are a rich mans toy. Only they can afford to have a throw away value after 3 years.

[@Raturidesagain]

Don’t need to be rich, just have a job and get a novated lease FBT-free. Same deal that tradies get expensing their dual cab utes (or G wagons).

[@thehairygolfer]

@@Raturidesagain To lease the electric version of the car I own is £323 a month and at the end of the deal I own nothing. All that money and I own nothing. Not a good deal.

[@sahhull]

​@@Raturidesagainso you lease it.. so you are paying for something that will never be yours. You will own nothing and be happy.

[@Low760]

People who buy cheap mg's new don't care past warranty period too. No different. Used buyers care.

[@Low760]

​@@Raturidesagainyep. John won't point out that most utes aren't used as utes but as tax write offs that don't need log books.

[@alanhilder1883]

When I was still in school 40 something years ago, there was a suburb of Sydney known as Volvo country.

[@Inisfad]

Excellent point about how the Chinese didn’t want Volvo but wanted access to the tech.

[@arnavp412]

This reminds me of the current C63S (W206 generation) it has a 2L 4 cylinder turbo petrol (350kW) with 2 electric motors combined (150kW) if memory serves correctly. Combined, it’s 500kW, which sounds amazing, but I can spot 2 problems here: 1) the car weighs about 2.1 tons, so how would one go about dealing with all of that mass? I know the power to weight ratio is ok (at least compared to its rivals). I also know that certain heavy performance cars (the AMG GT63 2 door, BMW M8, just to name a few) handle this weight well under acceleration and cornering, but a car’s brakes can only handle so much mass. As you’ve pointed out, kinetic energy is directly proportional to the mass of an object and proportional to the square of its speed. It’s safe to say that a car weighing 2100kg travelling at 240km/h has significant kinetic energy. 2) Mercedes appear to have just added the power figures from both the Internal Combustion Engine and electric drivetrain to get that 500kW figure. I thought that that couldn’t be done, since I was taught that the peak power of an ICE and that of an electric motor occur at different points in time. How would one explain this? Of course, a logical explanation would be that Mercedes had taken this issue into consideration. 3) how does this package compare not just to its rivals (BMW M3, Audi RS4/5), but to the previous generation (W205) C63S. For fairness, we’ll just consider the sedan version of each variant

[@WhiteDieselShed]

They use Chinese calculators, the same ones they use to calculate battery voltage and capacity. 2x 4v 4Ah batteries = 8v and 8Ah, and watch all the gullible buyers leaving 5 stars and glowing feedback even though they are only getting half of what they think they are buying.

[@bloffs3352]

Yep I think about as warm green fuzzy you want to get is hybrid.Not me though.

[@promethbastard]

Go check out Jason's {Engineering Explained) video on the new Lambo engine - he actually explains pretty logically on how ICE+EV power combines. Yes, it's Lambo, but I did find it very interesting.

[@theodavies8754]

The Chinese aren't interested in 3 year old low mileage BEVs to swap for anything. The big ships will have to go back without end of lease ice vehicles. One BEV in,one ice out is unsustainable.

[@tweed532DaveH]

Also remember Ford dabbled with Aston Martin in the years 1987-2007, I remember my friend having an Ashton and not very impressed and I remember him saying 'that indicator stalks and push buttons came from a common reps saloon and looked it'. Chuckle. 🤔👍🇬🇧

[@danjaz2000]

Ford put the same switches in the jaguar. So sad. But they still work today. So maybe some taxi parts is not always a bad thing. Minus several million points for style

[@tomedgar4375]

Living in Arizona and California, I can’t remember the last time I saw a new Volvo on the road.

[@5150-well]

" Shitville " truer words in summation of a country were never spoken 👏

[@DOC19581]

The best thing GM got from SAAB was the gorgeous cupholder fitted to the VZ Commodore.

[@BrisLS1]

I am in Virginia, USA, and my neighborhood is absolutely Volvo crazy. It is a veritable Volvo museum, some driveways have them from the 1980's and the 2010's and you can barely tell the body style difference. I just saw one today that was pink, because the red paint had faded for so many years. My "3 prong" has been such a disaster, I am sure the Volvo owners have me beat on many levels. I live on a busy street, so really, I can't hate on Volvo or the EV community. I can hate the aftermarket with the heat of 100 suns. People are consistently fooled into thinking - no exhaust restriction makes a car faster. It's like thinking, you can crap more, without eating more. Just non-sense, and noise.

[@Clyde-2055]

If you’re a carnivore, you indeed can crap more without eating more. It’s not only how much you eat, but WHAT you eat …

[@MrToekneeG]

I own an electric motorcycle. It's great for short blats to the supermarket. But if it wasn't heavily subsidised i would not have bitten the bullet. And i will always own ICE motorcycles based on the range anxiety alone, which IMO is the biggest drawback of EVs that hardly anyone mentions. People are too busy obsessing about the spontaneous combustion. :D

[@adambuchanan9051]

Please tell me more.

[@stephenhowe568]

Self combustion isn't too bad on a motorcycle you just get off it, in a car you get 10 seconds to get out before toxic gas gets you and the burial company loses another sale.

[@RogerM88]

Not so long ago plenty of EV fanboys would trash ICE Automaker, that only Tesla and few other EV automakers would survive. Meanwhile the Automakers rushing towards EV production are the ones near bankruptcy.

[@TheBDD1970]

Too big to fail part 2 coming soon.

[@eddiesplaylists4964]

It's cos they didn't rush fast enough.

[@wafive]

From a British TV made around 40 years ago comes a quote I used to find rather amusing back when there were "Bloody Volvo drivers" ( a concept that was parodied rather cleverly by none other than Volvo themselves with the 850 IIRC)... "Volvo's: Designed by experts. Built by professionals Driven by Prats" Vince, Just Good Friends... 1983 In 2024, It may well be changed to "Volvo's: Designed, Built and Driven by Prats"

[@MrRaitzi]

Thing is that Volvo ICE and hybrids are total crap now because they didn't do any R&D for like 10 years. Fuel consumption is high and reliability poor.

[@Uncle-Duncan-Shack]

Ceasing ICE vehicle production is one of the best suggestions for ending a business, bit like the fact that I cannot buy a Ford Fiesta anymore. Ford will not be selling me my next vehicle, I do not want a ute or a suv. Such a travesty, that with all the choices available, a basic quality car is hard to find. Like Steve Jobs said: R&D makes an awesome product, marketing then fudges it up.

[@alanhilder1883]

Ford will be informing on you and everyone around you if you did get any ford from now on anyway.

[@apathyboy5306]

At least you can get a new cord capri…😂

[@sustainart5207]

Dr Jim Rowan was one of the co-founders of Polestar and a majority shareholder. He also worked at Dyson as CEO when they had a car project. His experience as CEO of Ember Technologies, a world leader in precise temperature control could be useful. You're being a bit hard on the guy he sounds like an Auto Expert if you ask me.

[@สุภารัตร์ศรีบุริน]

I live in Phitsanulok province in Thailand and on travelling to the capital, Phitsanulok city, discovered a second BYD dealership on the main road going North West. An MG dealership about 5 years old and a new dealership Aion??? Plus there is a GWM dealership I haven't found yet. What I find striking is the blandness of the NIO and NETA brands. Styled for blandness and painted to match! Beige, Grey, Light Green that matched my mums ceramic tea pot when I was a kid. Yet they sell. I see more on the road every time I go up there. Are these sold to early adopters or, as I have suspected for some time, Thai people really are that gullible they believe the 'save the planet' EV horse shit. With the amount of old pickups, trucks and buses belching out clouds of diesel smoke and rice farmers burning rice and corn stubble all over the country I don't think Thais will be saving the planet any time soon!

[@adoreslaurel]

John, Do you think that we ICE drivers are subsidising EV owners, because the Auto insurers don't want to be accused of overcharging EV owners?, Discriminating against them because they drive an EV just might be seen as politically incorrect.

[@thetowndrunk988]

Love the thumbnail for this one. You’re showing off how good Manscaped is, while still making my ribs hurt. It’s an art form.

[@stuartwood7252]

I was given a flood damaged Volvo, by my ex outlaws. It was a tweaked 740 turbo, in gold, and remained stationary whilst flooded to the roof, as all the other cars floated away. It got professionally dried, fired up straight away, and was the best sleeper ever. RIP Nugget. I think that model won the Australian Touring Car championship, around that time. Whilst they burnt Volvos, at the top of the mountain #Bathurst.

[@sustainart5207]

You were given a submarine with Volvo badges on it you mean?

[@robt8042]

I drove a Nissan Turbo up the mountain paddock past the tents when the GTR's were smashing every V8 and Ford Sierra early 90's, the side-eyes I received would make medusa blush.

[@toddavis8151]

I find it hilarious that the EV devotees compare the transition to EV to the transition from carburettor to injection. The change to fuel injection didn’t affect the logistics of driving at all. In fact there would be plenty of people who would have no idea if they had injection or carburettors. However changing to EV changes the logistics of driving to the extent it could be a total lifestyle change

[@emboy1232]

The transition from carburetors to fuel injection was anything but seamless. Early Bosch fuel injection systems made vehicles unreliable and very expensive to repair, particularly with mileage .. Anyone buying these cars second hand was usually in for a real shock.. In the real world, in terms of freedom of movement and convenience, EVs are a step backwards.

[@ErikNielsendk]

The world is not coming down in fire and brimstones, it is going down in utter greed and fueled by stupidity.

[@DDB168]

The only people that buy Volvo's (or even know the brand) probably had a poster of Robbie Francevic on their wall (as a teenager) and dreamed of owning a 240T. I imagine you may have rubbed shoulders with the man.

[@seegee7728]

1986 winner of the ATCC in 1986 i believe. Dick Johnson called it the brick on wheels.

[@SalemikTUBE]

Polestar ads on the vid are just golden.

[@ridervfr2798]

Gute Morgen, My Hyundai or should I say my wifes car Ioniq 5 chit the bed after 2 days of ownership. Got stuck with my daughter a few blocks away from our house, walked home. Car towed to dealer for two weeks. Today, I have the joy of picking up said car. It is a 3 year lease, I can only hope the sweet little missus does not break down on the "Highway to Hell" office.

[@AndyGraceMedia]

Now we have the Chinese domestic heavy vehicle market going nuts for natural gas. 30% market share for LNG and still rising.

[@bt6850]

I’m a fuel tanker driver. Delivered to an Ampol site in Brisbane tonight and they’re building an EV charging station at the site, right under the vent pipes for the underground fuel tanks which continually vent vapour as the fuel expands in the heat. God help that site if an EV has a runaway fire while charging! Things are getting crazy!!

[@PhilRable]

In my instance, I’m a self funded retiree in Australia, i have come to the conclusion that I can’t afford an EV for a number of reasons. a) they are far more expensive than and equivalent ICE that suits my particular circumstances, b) resale / depreciation is a real problem but since I’m getting near owning the last new car ever maybe not such a huge problem for me, c) putting in a 7.2kw charging system in my garage (I live in medium density housing) is really expensive and I give the distance I have to travel regularly I couldn’t get away with the standard low power charge systems, and d) when I look at the total cost of environmental damage starting with the from the African slave trade to mine the lithium and other metals required for the battery, and disposal of that battery after it expires in around 10 years, I’m not impressed with the long term environment benefit from mass EV ownership. Bottom line, too expensive for a pensioner like me.

[@RhythmicEye]

John knows very well the electric engine in domestic automotive vehicles was severely disadvantaged because of corrupt entities within the petroleum sector as far back as the early part of the 20th Century. The electric motor leaves the combustion engine for dead in the areas of efficiency, reliability and maintenance. The problem for the electric engine is simply the energy transfer to the motor. Not really that difficult to solve and once it is the combustion engine is dead. John is well aware that the combustion engine is toast once the issue of the fuel cell to the electric motor is solved. And it is already well on the way to being solved. Nothing can compete with the efficiency and reliability of the brushless electric motor. NOTHING! Least of all the combustion engine

[@aussieideasman8498]

Motors are great for things that don't move, but when it's a vehicle, there is this massive problem of carrying the power source for the motor. Therein lies the inferiority with engines.

[@deaninchina01]

It’s just all the shit that goes with those brushless electric motors. Given that electric motors have been used for a century in industry, if the energy transfer to the motor has not yet been worked out it is far from easy to solve, and unlikely to be solved any time soon

[@martinbrookes1372]

Any word from Jaguar Land Rover these days ? They were going all electric next year , now gone a bit quiet .

[@turbyoulance]

I love watching your U tubes and also Scotty Kilmer .You two should do a collaboration some time.

[@kenlee5509]

6:23 Is that Jimbo's car in his profile pic? Make more of those and sales will skyrocket! Aside: Thank you for all the welding vids, they are great!

[@nathansmith6914]

John when are you going to fight that Electric Viking bloke? He keeps saying everyone loves this battery stuff.

[@pigmeal2224]

He's been looking so chronically sick for the past couple of years that he'll likely fall over all by himself, without any input by Mr C. A bit like his pet EV's!!!

[@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars]

That's hardly a fair fight. Although, that's the idea.

[@bertloreto9507]

That’s such a Chinese shill channel. Few times i’ve seen it … it’s like watching north Korean news . It’s always Utopia in EV land.

[@michaelohman4980]

So! That's what happened to Volvo AB! The Chinese company won it in a card game...... the large draw card of Volvo ownership (the car, not the company) was the safety factor. Now, Korean cars offer 5 star ancap rating on most models sold nowadays. So why buy a Volvo? Chinese manufactured cars that look like any other car, except for the diagonal ribbon across the grille....... I do believe I'd spend my money on anything else, if I bought vehicles that weren't second hand, have a wonderful week! Mick.....

[@nathansmith6914]

@@pigmeal2224 I have wondered if he might be vegan. 🤔 Plus a little something obviously.

[@kaivirkkala3213]

All the future scrapt battery cost is going to be interesting to see who will end up paying for that bill....🤔

[@_Hal9000]

Taxpayer like always

[@kaivirkkala3213]

​​@@_Hal9000 I think so too, but to be fair that cost should be passed on to EV owners.

[@AntonyGoud]

If you own the car you will pay, same as disposal of old tyres, but a heck of a lot more. GOOD LUCK if you own this crap, it will cost,cost,cost.

[@kaivirkkala3213]

@@AntonyGoud Its like a gift that keep on giving 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrissmith2114]

I bet Australian energy market operator AEMO is breathing a sigh of relief because at present take-up of EV they will no longer have to carry out massive upgrades to the energy grid..

[@alanhilder1883]

Though they will still charge money ( the bill ) like they are upgrading.

[@sustainart5207]

The Swedish chef with a blazing wok.

[@floweringpassions7462]

as usual, very entertaining and very informative .... thanks ...

[@johnshackleton323]

I quite like your videos. Just to mention, I go to those gatherings you referred to. I'm a believer. Yes, I am. 😊

[@aussieideasman8498]

John presumes all beliefs have to be wrong. The facts are, some are right; choose the right ones and you reap the rewards. Chosing none can't reward you, and you just might be wrong as well.

[@mockbattles]

I thought it was bollocks from the beginning.

[@VictorMaxol]

I want that on my headstone.

[@actualfacts1055]

Volvo's are inverted porcupines, the pricks are on the inside.

[@blackvulcan3]

Love your work John. You know this. However that thumbnail would scare small children.

[@SimonWallwork]

I sold Volvos in the UK from 1988-1996. They were good cars back then, and the 240,740, 760, 850 etc were sturdy and reliable. The 440 started the rot...

[@justinfargas2367]

Thank you John for the "Electric Jesus" believer news update. Nicely done indeed Sir‼️ Do enjoy your evening.

[@shanemcguire3953]

Did you see that AEMO have reduced their projections from 7 million down to 4 million EVs in the next 10 years. They are going to change the electricity production and poles and wires requirements accordingly .

[@Fwdking]

Chris Boofhead Bowen must be rolling around saying to himself Nooooo.............

[@bobbrown8661]

Is that Yevgeny Prigozhin in the thumbnail?

[@stanmarks3950]

So I am not the only one....

[@seegee7728]

Poor old Prigozhin, marched half way to Moscow then inexplicably stopped. Failed to go all out on Putin now he's dead.

[@javelinXH992]

@@bobbrown8661 I’ve never seen them in the same room at the same time.

[@bobbrown8661]

@@seegee7728 Maybe he was driving an EV? 🙃

[@Roulandus-le-Fartere]

Thanks for the peak under the lid, Dude, but I think it's safe to say You Can Leave Your Hat On. Great analysis of where the EV acolytes are in late 2024.

[@Doones319]

How many politicians have shares in these EV companies ?

[@johngoard8272]

Yes John mate wait until the insurance companies stumble over the fact that they insuring any form of structure we take for granted such as the family home, apartment blocks or public parking areas then wake up to the fact that EV's constitute a very real danger to anyone inside those structures and/or the structure itself is going to create yet another eyewatering insurance payout where an EV has caused the damage. I am guessing a structure's insurance premium will skyrocket - seeing that any form of living space structure that is already paying the obscene premiums that many now cannot afford to insure their property as it is, will surely make for so much further misery for many who are affected by the dangers of EV's catching on fire.

[@williamsheil]

Just worked out that you are 3 years younger than me, dude. Respect, you must have partied very hard indeed.😂

[@leo.girardi]

By that commercial footage, they should call it "TiffanyVPN". Hmmm, I might have said that before, but also being on the "-4 yr" on the three point harness, and breathing in too much break cleaner, I can't remember...

[@StressFreeVIP]

When I asked my 'spitting cobra' why she turned purple, she said "I can't decide if I'm envious or full awe" - this guy is the tru master spitting poison, possibly more than 20 king cobras can do.

[@lukestocks4370]

Sorry John your WRONG ( or should I say strongly disagree) in my experience. The day volvo died was when they went to front wheel drive. Some of the turbo 850's were ok or coolish.. But as family member of an ex volvo dealer this is when the warranty work really started and it was all down hill from there... Thanks for your videos I enjoy them.

[@StuWNZ]

I've got a XC90 2.4d 2014 and it's fab. EVs aren't the way to go that's for sure, especially down under where people get out there at the weekend. Volvos are good reliable and beautiful vehicles, sales will be lower as people buy more affordable options. Loving your work. 😊

[@trev1978]

Imagine if the $billions already invested into EV’s was instead pumped into developing AFFORDABLE synthetic fuels. We would keep buying reliable ICE cars but without the ‘carbon footprint’. What a shameful Ev mess we have instead

[@TooOldToCare-kl3co]

How dare you propose something so sensible, shame on you 😂😂😂

[@javelinXH992]

Won’t work unfortunately. To make synthetic fuels you need to add energy via chemistry. Synthetic fuel will always be significantly expensive due to that. The only way to make synths work is to have a large excess of electricity available so the price of the electric plummets.

[@WhiteDieselShed]

If they did that what could their next excuse be to get people out of their cars and walking everywhere? If you cannot walk to your destination within 15 or 20 minutes then you will not be allowed to go there...

[@markh.6687]

In 'Murica!, Ford is advertising the availability of ICE, hybrid, and electric vehicles in their product line. This is a major change from their pushing e-Geldings (e-Mustangs) and e-trucks.

[@rjbiker66]

How long before the FBT exemption for leasing an EV is dropped?

[@OldDarkHouse-t7h]

What would happen if Volvo built the old 240 free of electronics, LCD screens, and all the other stuff that makes new prices insane?

[@SCR-ce2fs]

Thanks John, always enjoy your sardonic take.

[@davepfizer]

When there are enough charge points such that we could arrive at a charging station that is free and fully working and there are no queues and the charge process takes ten minutes, just enough to walk to the "comfort station" LOL and back and it gives us 1000 miles of travel that matters not if we have the AC or the lights or the heating or the wipers on or if we drive fast or slow, up hill or not and they are guaranteed not to catch fire or lock us in so we have to smash our way out then perhaps if the price was very right and the green credentials of said vehicle was 100% proved then and only then would we consider one!

[@johnbambo9036]

Belief is like one's perception of reality so that reality is true for that individual. Quite simple really. That's why we have Electric Vehicles John

[@chrisforgan731]

certainly hybrids are a more practical choice in australia for every where but the big cities. simply becuase we dont have the infrastructure.

[@frankguernier2280]

John. The latest is if you sit in the cockpit of your EV and switch on a EMF sensing device the dial goes totally of th dial. It's like sitting in your mobile phone with 5g turned on.

[@lesleypaterson1463]

I've been saying that for Years and warning Tesla owners that unusual bum cancers will be rampant very soon. There's a lot of energy being discharged under said bottom. People get hysterical over a low power phone, EVs are piss ya pants scary for EMF.

[@paulwilliams698]

Brilliant Presentation .

[@JustPeasant]

Remember when Ford bought Jaguar, and when that proven to be a waste of money, their marketing division went even further by buying Stewart Racing, renaming it to Jaguar racing in order to boost the sale of the same cars? Team performed so poorly, sale of Jaguar cars wasn't going up, so they sold the team for a symbolic sum to Dietrich Mateschitz. Also, they flogged Cosworth to Gerald Forsythe & Kevin Kalkhoven. Ever since then, Cosworth has been forgotten by motorsport racing enthusiasts.

[@rustykilt]

My understanding is HYBRIDS are growing in popularity. The push by ALBO to get rid of ICE vehicles could also spell the end of these HYBRIDS as well.

[@thereplacementfordisplacement]

Plug-in hybrids will lead to a lot more EV miles driven if everyone owns a PHEV and 50% of people actually plug in.

[@jec_ecart]

Correct way is to scrap these policymakers.

[@stephencurry1766]

Ignoring the upfront cost, the crap range, the lousy charging infrastructure, the grid capability, the resale value and the spiralling insurance costs and the repair cost issues….isn’t the battery replacement cost just another Ford transmission style of bitter pill bill we have to accept from any car manufacturer? (ignoring also the stockpiling of depleted batteries)

[@deandixon2141]

Don’t disagree with anything you say but my experience with Volvo has been excellent. I purchased a new S60 B5 (Mild Hybrid) during pandemic. It’s been a beautiful car, not one issue with the car in 3 years. It looks good, drives beautifully, has reasonable power for a 2.0lt T.

[@adrianlane4256]

Hybrids only as a target would have been achievable and acceptable to the buyers. On just a running cost basis, many drivers would have flipped between electric and combustion, and thus reduced emissions by a significant amount without total disaster.

[@nathanhorlin-smith4856]

hahaha Firm possibility of a definite maybe... GOLD!

[@Noah_E]

I own a tree farm and not a single EV can replace our HD trucks. The Hummer EV comes the closest, but would require buying 3 to replace 2 ICE trucks because one would always be charging. The EVs would have lower running costs, but not enough to negate the extra $100k of an additional truck. I also foster and transport hounds for several 501c3s and would always have to keep an EV at at least 50% SoC in case I need to make a transport on short notice. So an EV doesn't work for my personal vehicle either. That is not likely to change any time soon.

[@chrisforgan731]

that is exactly why we dont make cars in aus anymore. they didnt make cars that the market wanted and the foreign brands did and did it for less and did it better.

[@JWL-UK]

Other EV brands going "why don't we just impose a Porsche-inspired "buy 2 EVs before we can let you buy a proper car" sales promotion across the board? As a minimum, customers buying an ICE should accept to garage a couple of EVs for like a year or two!"

[@Timoth_666]

Most pollies know sweet fa about cars. Most pollies know sweet fa about anything except who they owe favours to, to ensure their next lucrative position, 2 weeks after they retire to spend more time with their family.

[@actualfacts1055]

Park your EV in your driveway or on the street, not anywhere near your dwelling, that's a good climate warrior.

[@SylviaGillard-yq7gj]

Absolutely right! How people can sleep at night with one of those incendiary devices parked under their house has me stumped.

[@actualfacts1055]

​@@SylviaGillard-yq7gj They don't think.

[@grantleyhughes]

Every time I see a Polestar, I slip a twenty under the wiper.

[@grantperkins368]

😂

[@arnesahlen2704]

🇨🇦Canadian of 🇸🇪Swedish dad, I had 'Volvo pride' - above all that the 3-point seat belts were *free of patent* so all could use them. Now... a shambles. Soon to go the way of Saab, I fear 😵‍💫🥺.

[@anthonybugge5220]

You forgot the high insurance prices

[@johnwade1095]

Aston Martin was in PAG too.

[@louisgiokas2206]

Early in Tesla's development, when the Model S came out, one could buy a future battery replacement for about, wait for it, $25,000. I believe that was for the highest capacity battery. The expectation that Tesla was setting was that battery prices would only go up. Come to think of it, for that size battery the price has probably remained stable.

[@mikeheffernan]

"We are resolute in our belief that our future is electric," CEO Jim Rowan said. "However, it is clear that the transition to electrification will not be linear, and customers and markets are moving at different speeds."

[@Mike_Ellis]

14:30 - just cracked me up!

[@craigquann]

Hey John. It seems that the "mid size truck" market is getting red hot here in North America. And it seems like the big global players are starting to offer their global platforms here. Though we tend to get different engine and transmission options. Do you think we'll start sharing more platforms with your Utes. And what are some of the major hurdles? (besides left/right drive)

[@LasseHuhtala]

They didn't lie, they just strategically changed their narrative.