2025 Toyota LandCruiser Prado 250 is terrible! | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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[@lot6129]

Whats the story about carsales"?

[@myeverythingworld8123]

Hey m8 is it you that comes up with the opening or is it deepseek😂 It's just good that's all

[@ShoeysAdventures]

first time you've been correct in all of your shit dribbling, 150 is a much better car and no AdBlue shiiit

[@MikeZdoesitz]

Definitely wastes less carbon when it’s bricked parked outside pillow talk

[@Narcissistic74]

This won't stop Toyota fan boys in buying this shit box.

[@daleplucknett278]

79 series is a great example of fools buying on reputation and not quality.

[@anthony-1357]

@@daleplucknett278they buy 79 series because they look tough and they can refer to them as a “truck” which seems to impress.

[@Murrayhewitt1967]

It stopped me and I’m a Prado fanboy.

[@gilmo-frog]

79 series is pretty reliable that's why every underground mine site in australia uses them

[@ShoeysAdventures]

@@Murrayhewitt1967 same, never considered it after the specs came out, sad really, could have been amazing

[@RogerM88]

It's not only the Prado, it´s most newer cars nowadays. While Western Governments live obsessed with Carbon emissions at the tailpipe, meanwhile ignoring the total Carbon footprint with a shorter working cycle.

[@tomedgar4375]

Government overreach facilitated by voters who kneel at the altar of climate change.

[@paulbarry1044]

Exactly,its all about the rediculous NVES,here in Australia.Lets see what other manufacturers do to reduce emissions on ICE vehicles to comply with the new regulations.

[@mattyguff1]

The whole carbon thing is bullshit. I can't believe the stupidity of the general public.

[@zanderman2009]

anyone who knows what a li-ion battery is knew this as soon as the EV circus started. LEZ zones are hilarious as well, instead of cars travelling throug the centre of town they can cause traffic jams all around the city and travel a longer distance by going around... according to government stats it'll help with pollution... according to non-neanderthal sources, it's doing the opposite genuinely embarrassed by how rtarded humans have been for the last decade, bring back racism and smog with no idea of the definition of either... its like living with lobotomised chimps, sorry americans

[@Low760]

​@@paulbarry1044you mean euro 6 emissions everyone else has to pass in the civilised world?

[@sneakyfoz3692]

The new Prado target market is school pickups and shopping trips to the mall, that’s its natural habitat.

[@whya2ndaccount]

But only on dry days - if there's a risk of a puddle or run off, it has to stay at home.

[@gbsailing9436]

So...what you are saying is that is was designed for that role and that role only?!?

[@GC-xy2ec]

At least fuel range was decent on the 150 with the 2 tanks. Prado 150 for all those Mums with 1300 km round trip drop off.

[@myeverythingworld8123]

Poor man's LandCruiser

[@thatdave86]

But only in 15 min Cities aye ? Them /They ,you know those people don't want us traveling,enjoying life ,no outback adventures,no water filled potholes to drive through neither. There is a new breed of humans being developed by those wishing for control and change !

[@DieselAddiction]

Did you see the bullshit review that 4wd 24/7 did on touring SUV's ? They were all wearing Toyota blindfolds!

[@cyc00000]

Agree that was a load of......an hour I won't get back.

[@DavidWilliams-ry7nt]

Yep total horseshit. What flog pays north of $ 100k for something with a shitty old underpowered motor and needs $10k in modifications to make it driveable. And these, journos wetting their pants because it has Toyota across the grill. FFS beam me up Scotty.

[@Keithostrangeman]

Yea 4wd24/7 just went down a few points after that bullshit episode

[@stabsfeldwebela4178]

If you haven’t realized this yet, the popular KZbin off-road channels are glorified infomercials, made men.

[@kimyusof6780]

​@Keithostrangeman yeah I can't watch those clown anymore.

[@robertastk]

As someone mentioned - it's most cars. I would add that it's not only cars. Bought a washing machine 2 years ago. One of most common brands, even proudly written that it's not made in China. But very energy efficient and 10year warranty for inverter motor. Warranty was 24 months. After 30 months that MF started washing clothes at boiling temperatures. I thought - ok, probably a thermostat. Nope. It's motherboard. To get that motherboard - I can only call brand's "importer", that motherboard costs 300 euros. New washing machine - also 300 euros. Call me a foil hat human - I'm starting to believe that it's made this way on purpose.

[@lesleypaterson1463]

I purchased a proudly German made B_o_s_c_h_e branded dishwasher 10 years ago to replace a very tired 16 year old faultless Swedish ASKO. The German was a massive POS and ended up in a Council Clean up 2 years later and I refitted the ASKO.

[@jamesfrench7299]

Funny hearing a story on a washing machine in a Toyota topic.

[@SedentaryDuck]

You mean Built-in obsolescence?

[@DavidHill-g2d]

Absolute shitbox. Over rated and getting worse with each new model.

[@AnarchistBogan]

Listening to this clip as I drive past a 250 getting put on a tow truck lol

[@Balthasar_Gelt463]

You shouldn’t be watching KZbin while driving, and you definitely shouldn’t be typing comments on KZbin while driving. You’ll end up on a tow truck or worse if you keep it up!

[@brokenlegz]

lol really

[@waynemcsweeney1955]

Very nana state answer​@@Balthasar_Gelt463

[@4x4Overlanding247]

​@@Balthasar_Gelt463He didn't say he was typing the comment as he was driving FFS. . . .woke up!

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@Balthasar_Gelt463 He was LISTENING to the broadcast quality monologue by John. It adds to the effect to be able to see John...but it is not essential. But really no one should be listening to anything except the car and traffic noises around them if they wish to actually DRIVE rather than just zombie along on a road...

[@darrenprior6339]

15 years that had to get this thing right. FIFTEEN F***ING YEARS. And at midnight on December 31 2024 someone decided to have a go at building a new design from scratch on the back of a second hand piece of toilet paper. The only parts they included were the skid marks. FFS Toyota. Do the walk of shame off a plank into the Pacific.

[@sneakyisme]

Snowy Hydro 2.0 was drawn on a napkin in a pub, seeing any similarities???

[@TheWombat2012]

Pretty sure I’d rather have that old early series Range Rover than a brand new Prado… At work we had Prado’s as work vehicles, this was probably 15 years ago. I vividly remember some of them getting up near 600,000km with zero issues. This was on highways, dirt roads, rough tracks, mud and pouring rain and terrible barely passable tracks beside the railway corridor. The interior plastics were a bit tired but mechanically they were just fine, and we used to joke that this was done in the hands of railway crews, and if normal humans drove them you could expect double that kilometres out of them. 😂 I seriously doubt this new one would come anywhere near that.

[@danstevens2204]

If that bolt was loose on delivery then there should be an immediate recall and stop drive issued to allow them to be checked.

[@jamesmcgrath1669]

This should have been picked up during the pre delivery process, but like everywhere else these days it's hard to find good people even in Japan apparently....... llbuono.

[@Wdeane1957]

​@@jamesmcgrath1669pre delivery is just an expensive detailing job these days.

[@ulehuleh]

This should have been picked up on the 1000km checkup, if it was done? Lower strut bolts commonly come loose on all vehicles with coil overs as they are under alot of radial tension, it's so important they are checked just with a spanner every so often

[@Edflyspy]

One of your best John … a couple of minor corrections … - The Man from Snowy River did not ride the Colt from Old Regret, that’s the horse he retrieved. He rode the “small and weedy beast … like a race horse undersized”. -“Repeatably” (14:25) … oh John … really? You’ve crucified others for far less. I wouldn’t bring these up for any other channel, but you’ve set yourself up very well in your glass house, so stones must be thrown. Keep up the great work. Ed 👍🤣

[@artmallory970]

What does boot polish taste like, edflyspy?

[@docbob3030]

TOYOTA is definitely in damage control over the release of the Prado right now.

[@bennettw4300]

No they're not. They dgaf. They know the brain washed toyaboy fans will still keep buying their s$%t... for now.

[@eonvr]

Here in South Africa we got lucky with our Prado 250 spec, 2.8 diesel, 150kw, no DPF or adblue, no 48v "hybrid" system, 8 speed auto. We only get the 7 seater version but due to the lack of the 48v system the floor is as low as the Aussie 5 seater. They're selling like hot cakes here at the equivalent of $122k AUS for the VX-R.

[@zedan6041]

Any quality issues over there so far?

[@catchawakeup6411]

Of course there will be issues, but Toyota fan boys will never admit to any issues.

[@zedan6041]

​@@catchawakeup6411 I mean I'd consider myself a Toyota fan boy but I'm not going to turn a blind eye when potentially buying a car. As long as they are fixable and measures are being taken to mitigate issues thats all you can ask for.

[@travelmates1]

​@@zedan6041No issues, the new Prado (without 48v) is behaving very well. Apart from a 12 months plus waiting list...

[@johnleepassport]

I ordered VX in Australia after watching African model review… but after seeing in person at dealership, cancelled straightaway because very different from African model.. extra 48 mild hybrid, adblue, raised boot floor… very disappointed.. and they refuses to return my $1000 deposit back … hinterland Toyota Robina…

[@tallboy49]

If one were to drive through a small muddy puddle at walking speed as per the where the Prado failed could have resulted in being bogged. These type of small water holes are always entered at some pace just in case the bottom is boggy. Any offroader knows this.

[@oldbloke204]

After physically checking how deep it is of course as some bogholes are virtually bottomless after all the heroes have to try and prove how manly they are by driving through them.

[@trainwreckinadumpsterfire]

​@@oldbloke204long time ago, out on some tracks, we took our little fourbys, through a mud hole. We carefully checked it, about 2 ft deep on the left, but dropped to 6ft deep on the right. To he plan was stick to the left, all good. We all had a go and came out unscathed. On our return, came across the same hole and another group was there. All sad faces. Some guy with a turbo 80 series just went for it without checking and at high revs. Big gulp of the muddy water and the turbo decided to call it quits... Dead car, on the top of a mountain.

[@oldbloke204]

@@trainwreckinadumpsterfire Yeah it's pretty eye opening when you see a plastic undertray leaning up against a tree on the side of a track. I really don't see the appeal of flogging my vehicle and having to pay for repairs and/or recovery tbh. Having some underbody protection bolted to mine soon after a near miss when I was being careful. It can turn to crap pretty quick out there.

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

Exactly

[@laok8021]

4WD rule: 1) Do I really need to go there? 2) If you cant walk it, don’t drive it.

[@vichetkim5533]

Just when you thought the 48 volt battery system was complex enough, out of the blue they decided to include "ad blue."

[@Bruno3435]

That’s a Government requirement. It’s not Toyota’s fault.

[@vichetkim5533]

@@Bruno3435 It is Toyota's fault because they don't offer a petrol engine for the Prado like they use to.

[@ajstevens1652]

​@@vichetkim5533 True. Despite other markets getting the petrol engine.

[@ulehuleh]

AdBlue is nothing new mate been around a very long time. Systems are nothing special but yes components are expensive. It's something nothing wants but thanks to people like Bowen and the left all over the world, here we are

[@ulehuleh]

​@@vichetkim5533 have you not seen the gx550? It's an awesome vehicle

[@JockMurray-v1o]

They don't want you going to Dingo Piss Creek anymore. It might upset the ants.

[@vichetkim5533]

Or take those ants home because they decide to nest inside the cozy 48 volt battery system.

[@dune7824]

Buy something that an outback mechanic can still repair.

[@SingaporeSling1]

There’s not many of them left 😂

[@Boababa-fn3mr]

For a true outback mechanic? Pre 1990

[@jamesrebbechi5247]

They’re harder to find these days than a good old school pub let alone an edible steak.

[@robg6485]

Does anyone remember that show on SBS from back in the 90's about 'bush mechanics' braddah?

[@dune7824]

@@robg6485 yeah! it was gold. I remember them doing things like using the windscreen washer pump as a fuel pump and heating a flat battery next to a fire to get a bit more power out of it.

[@MattBlack6]

Never miss a chance to mention the 80 series. Even after 30 years, it is still GCS 15.

[@damodoesall6240]

Incremental obesity is my gripe, I want a car smaller than a full size cruiser or ute, yet all the makers seem obsessed with making each new model slightly larger each time just to justify the new price tag.

[@rodmm1235]

“Honorable “ Chris Bowen for you Cadogan. Learn your place.

[@Thomamps]

The Prado dies because the 12v system is a sub system of the 48v. It has no 12v alternator on the engine only the generator between engine and gearbox.

[@marcellinden7305]

That spells the end of 'rising sun mode' driving lights near every 4x4 has...

[@YZJB]

No, it doesn’t. The mild-hybrid system on this engine is a BSG (Belt-driven Starter Generator). There is no motor between the engine and gearbox. It’s a glorified alternator, bolted to the engine where the standard alternator used to be, and it drives (and is driven by) the engine by the accessory drive belt.

[@ajstevens1652]

Weird world we're living in now. Toyota putting over-engineered shit in a car that's supposed to be rugged and reliable. And then charging BMW prices.

[@Mays99]

Toyota's arrogance will bite eventually.

[@adamski-l5w]

This is peak Cadogan! Pi$$ed myself laughing! I think “Greatest country ever…in a straight line between NZ and Somalia” really is the jewel in a verbal crown ooooozing, nay dripping, in sarcasm, cynicism and absurdity! Keep up the great work!

[@AutoExpertJC]

Thank you very much, Adam.

[@RS-yb5rr]

I read the line over and over and dont get it?

[@artmallory970]

@@RS-yb5rr Oz is the only country between them...

[@michaelseymour5370]

Well he didn't specify the longitude and latitude of this straight line so technically incorrect.

[@adamski-l5w]

Oh come on Mick, don’t be such a wet rag! Most people only know the Mercator projection from their primary school atlas. The joke works on a flat earth! I must admit my surprise when I looked at google earth and indeed a direct great circle line from Auckland to Mogadishu passes completely south of Australia. Who knew?!

[@malcolmirving9485]

I bet the Tasmanian couple paid on road costs and dealer delivery fee that is supposed to include a pre delivery inspection.

[@Daniel-u7x8j]

GWM Tank 500 hasn’t suffered this fault after driving through water-just saying

[@docbob3030]

I'm glad I wasn't having a beer at the time of watching this. Would have spat it out on too many occasions during this video. Goodonya JC, truly insightful and entertaining experience once again.

[@cootha8631]

Toyota peaked just before the GFC. They had a range of legendary cars and engines built to go forever and the company was run by engineers. The GFC hit and they started cutting corners, the accountants took over and been going downhill ever since then.

[@Murrayhewitt1967]

Amen to that and my 2008 120 Prado.

[@lesleypaterson1463]

Totally correct, plus the lure of being number 1 in the US, this has weakened Toyota's ethos as it has with Honda.

[@MattBlack6]

Isn't it funny that Toyota, who first came out with the frankly excellent hybrid drive system in the Prius, has now given us this mild hybrid abomination. Those Priuii were bulletproof.

[@sbGOM]

Yes and it's offspring hybrids.

[@MattBlack6]

​@@sbGOMyep

[@MattBlack6]

​@@sbGOMbeing a towie, my world is coming across the shit heaps. Hybrid Toyotas, all of them so far, almost never feature on my tow truck, unless they're slightly damaged hire cars going from airport to smash repairer and visa versa. Or end of lease government cars. The other thing I notice with those is the lifelong fuel economy figures of the smaller cars, Corolla etc. Usually in the fours. That's pretty good value, especially given strong resale value.

[@jeremyryan770]

So until they specify how deep the puddles can be they shouldn't be driven on any of our cratered roads. What a shitshow the car industry is.

[@kymcha]

I have a Corolla hybrid (5 yo now) and was parked in a city car park. When I returned early evening it was dead and I mean dead (I had to use the key manually to even get in the driver's door). The RACQ dude explained that the 12V regular battery in the engine bay is required to fire up the hybrid battery under the rear seat and all the dependent systems. The regular battery in the engine bay was replaced with a new one by RACQ and the whole car sprung to life. Get this though, the RACQ dude said that if you are on the open road at 2:00 AM for example and the regular battery fails, then you are sweet UNTIL the engine switches to the hybrid battery (it does this all the time) and then everything will go dead instantly and stay that way until the regular failed battery is replaced.

[@SteveEddy-od7fb]

Thanks for the update!

[@user-xu5vl5th9n]

In some cases they reduced the capacity of the 12V battery as theoretically it has less to do in a hybrid.

[@YZJB]

No, it will keep running until you switch the ignition off. Might have a warning message if the 12v goes flat but the switching between hybrid and EV mode won’t cause it to stop.

[@kymcha]

@ OK thanks. I just took the advice from the RACQ chap as given but seems I misunderstood 😕 Other than that incident, it has been a great little car for the 5 years.

[@seaeagles6025]

I guess this new Prado won't click 800,000 KM like the Corolla and the Camry, they go forever. Thanks John.

[@Low760]

Yet most don't? Most are scrap at 200k KMs from lack of servicing Because people think that's optional.

[@seaeagles6025]

That's a fair point, 👍

[@oldbloke204]

One of our very popular 4wd channels on here reckon that the 300 and Prado are the best wagons with the Prado beating out everything else. Seems like an awful lot of money to me really.

[@Ktmfan450]

Shows how bad everything else is

[@CarbonEternity]

Its because that channel appeals to the brand loyalty bogans, if they said anything that isn't a Ford or Toyota is better, they'll loose viewers lol.

[@gbsailing9436]

Your two statements have no correspondence - mutually exclusivity. SO what are you try to say? (edited for spelling)

[@davidmilledge221]

That's why I haven't watched them fancy shows for the last 8 months their got the brands up their arses sponsoring them and its all bullshit fake crap

[@oldbloke204]

@ Why? Just because that's their opinion means little imo. My Pajero Sport does everything I need it to do for a whole lot less money.

[@Bobtubeau]

Why would anyone EVER drive this through 40cm+ of mud! RIDICULOUS! Everyone knows this vehicle is for getting the kids to soccer training.

[@Oosh21]

48V delete kits incoming!

[@paulharrison8114]

That’s a 1985 Rangie, not 1975.

[@rodmm1235]

Will a Tank 500 be a better choice than this Prado????

[@pauldoitcheap4343]

walking pace: catch a bus , use the foot path , stay off the road.

[@jasonbachelor604]

Crazy part is these will still sell like mad Toyota get away with so much garbage. 70 series wheel offset??

[@aslkdfjhg]

The GX, GXL and VX don't get locking rear differentials, but my 20 year old ride on lawnmower does. I think the only reason they did this (along with the high price) is to encourage the buyer to "spend a bit more" and get the 300. The old upsell trick.

[@AD28197]

@aslkdfjhg you're right! I've noticed this as well, I mean the previous j150 was Toyota's best selling SUV. This one is so bad one would be better off saving a bit more for the LC300.

[@SingaporeSling1]

Is Toyota the new Jeep?

[@davidscott820]

Na ...the old Range Rover

[@colincameron6263]

Na i think they are worse than that.

[@brentonl2631]

TOYOTA LAND CRUISER PRADO 250'S New jingle " I can't stand the rain"

[@Marvilalove]

In Europe the Prado is spot on. No mild hybrid, just 2.8 Diesel. I love it so much❤

[@markmcgrath9098]

Toyota’s BS excuse for the Prado’s mud fail sound the same as the BS they spouted when the ESC failed to stop the Kluger from rolling over in a Wheels magazine test. They cried that the corner on the test didn’t meet Australian Standards that were used for ESC calibration. It’s lucky all the corners in my area meet Australian Standards. Not. IIRC, Toyota spat the chewie and stopped advertising in the magazine.

[@robertwhittaker1801]

Hi John. The bolt fell off on corrugations near town called Moonta on the Yorke Peninsula only 2 hours from Adelaide so the road wasn't that bad.

[@clasdauskas]

So it really was Moonted...

[@howardtuohy3366]

Know of another one where the same bolt sheared off.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@howardtuohy3366 Would the shearing be the result of the bolt backing out...causing leverage like a guillotine action on said backed out bolt?

[@jamesmcgrath1669]

Sounds like load shear the same way a tow ball snaps off, the load is not longitudinal along the bolt but sideways through say around a diameter of 16 mm looking at it. Could be a range of factors poor metallurgical qualities in the bolt to poor or incorrect heat treatment to achieve the 8.8 grade tensile strength. The broken bolt should be inspected under a microscope by a metallurgist or similar testing authority to determine the cause of the failure as they do in heavy industry. llbuono.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@ WHERE on the length of the bolt would determine IF that bolt backed out.... causing the leverage to snap it??

[@michaelaitken2631]

80's 90's early 2000's vehicles were much more reliable than the modern shitboxes. Manufacturers have been riding on and 💩ing on their reputations since then.

[@LordZiomalus]

Am I seeing correctly, that the strut was bolted to the lower control arm as a "screw in" without the nut on the other end? I'm not sure if I explained this clearly, but in my 4WD, the strut has a U at the bottom end. Bolt goes through the end of U, then LCA, then again through the other side of the U. If it would become lose, you'd hear the knocking. If it falls out (unlikely), the strut would rest on the LCA.

[@Tre45onousreprob47etrump]

A couple of things to point out about the old vs new Prado. The new one is 200kg heavier, more spacious and gets the same economy. Also, the boot space in the gx, vx and Kakadu is only bad if you are utilising the 3rd row. Otherwise it’s not so bad, the back box is removable and if you really want you can take out the seats and put in a false floor.(check warranty) The gxl and altitude don’t have the 3rd row seats and the box is much smaller (100mm vs 250mm) so the boot space for the versions that are for 4x4 is pretty good.

[@grantlee2975]

In 1990 I traveled the perimeter of Australia in a 1975 FJ55 Landcruiser petrol, I drove that old beast through so many rivers with bow wave coming off the bottom of the windscreen and never let me down, it was like a Submarine. My car at present is a Prado 120 series V6 with over 300000 and still drives great, think I'll keep it a lot longer.

[@alanhilder1883]

The man from snowy river didn't ride on the colt from old regret, he chased after it.

[@bubbleboy468]

The colt from old regret had got away...

[@peterwilliam4681]

Hair force One😂😂😂

[@AutoExpertJC]

That hair doesn't do itself, dude.

[@kodiak7]

Umm this has been Craig Federighi’s (Apple exec) forever

[@mini_steve]

On Sunday 26th January, we went for a bit of a drive (550km round trip), and the amount of new 250 Prado's that I saw was well over 40. All black, all had baby seats in the back with a blonde female driver and hubby sinking piss in the passenger seat. It was amusing as I had never had actually seen one on the road until then. I made a new driving game to guess if the lady driver had a full leg tattoo.

[@robg6485]

​@AutoExpertJC a great segway to manscaped, dude!

[@4x4Overlanding247]

​@@kodiak7don't forget the wonderful LA Governor Newsom - might be a close battle but reckon newsoms got it by a dollop

[@twain1669]

Mitsubishi has a golden opportunity to bring back a fully fledged Pajero or make the Pajero Sport a Prado direct rival

[@ajstevens1652]

Throw a V6 in it again and it will kill it in the sales charts.

[@adstyle7001]

One of your all time best deliveries yet…. dude!

[@AutoExpertJC]

Thank you, duuuuude.

[@85priesty]

The 120 series was great...the Original 150 was worth the the bonus. Despite losing the 30L of the largest fuel tank in a commercial vehicle. The 120 was great...but it was kinda like the 80 series to 100 series...and the previous Prado cornered the same as an 88 GQ Patrol...with a 4" Lift. So you can't expect anything wonderful.

[@docbob3030]

HEY! Don't go knocking my 4" lifted 88 GQ Patrol.........it 3 wheels around corners just fine!

[@AndrewC-Aust]

Come on JC. Time to admit the LR D300 Defender with its straight 6, reasonable sized oil sump, 0-30w oil spec, on and off-road capability is becoming the best vehicle to buy. Take a deep breath JC and bless it a bit! Or at least move it up your list! Have courage son.

[@pantoqwerty]

Look under the back of one of those - the rear suspension hangs so low it has the effective ground clearance of a Maloo ute.

[@AndrewC-Aust]

@@pantoqwertyassume you’re talking Prado mate! The D300 has massive ground clearance.

[@pantoqwerty]

@@AndrewC-Aust followed one down the road this evening and those rear suspension arms hang pretty damn low. Nobody cares what it looks like from the side if you get caught up on the arms.

[@AndrewC-Aust]

@@pantoqwerty lol. You know they have air suspension don’t you? Drive one first (in off road mode) then report back. I have. And do.

[@StuWebRT]

Wet and rainy UK here and on a 2 hour motorway drive Sunday morning I passed, not 1, not 2 but three new shape defenders on the hard shoulder with their hazards on assuming they were waiting for recovery. (as its illegal just to stop on the hard shoulder in the UK unless you break down) they are getting a hateful reputation over here

[@SevenSixTwo2012]

Hybrid = No thanks. Most Toyota truck customers who would typically buy it are not into overcomplicated disposable cars / trucks with zero resale value when the main battery inevitably sh*ts the bed. Engineers and designers at Toyota must've gone insane.

[@pantoqwerty]

I am left wondering how much of this was poor engineering vs poor engineering to align with or meet mandated emissions regulations whether directly for that model or the overall fleet. It literally saves no fuel, adds complexity, increases costs, and is an overall “what the fuck?”. Could have had a lot of feedback from customers wanting a hybrid mall crawler I suppose but presumably they’d also be expecting to save fuel.

[@typhoon-7]

Here in the UK the only option we have is the 2.8 diesel without any hybrid. And I think it's better for it. Although it's still too expensive.

[@Low760]

Except they buy the 300 so they don't mind complex.

[@lyssa925]

Most customers sit in traffic on the way to and from school.

[@whya2ndaccount]

Now on the lookout for Prado's travelling at 5kph along your average road with puddles or even sheet water escaping from the gutters/drains (since the Prado will be "crossing water").

[@jamesmcgrath1669]

You would have more chance of fording a creek 700 mm deep in a 1969 Mini Cooper s with a piece of clad wrap 150 x 150 mm square taped to the grill in front of the distributor than making it in the new prado it would seem. llbuono lifelong toyota buyer current cars include a fj cruiser camry sl hybrid and various other Toyota's but definitely no 2025 prados claytons 4wds, the ones that look like they cross a creek but struggle with a wet road it would seem. llbuono.

[@deeza3384]

Can men use Nordvpn too?

[@jrbuch]

Very happy with my 120 Prado. 180 liter tank, K02 All terrains, tows my boat and camper trailer nicely and not overly complex like this mild hybrid status symbol.

[@richardtheeighth4431]

Oh not a feeling, Toy-croaka.

[@toadwart1973]

I've been a Toyota fan boy for about 12 years and I ordered a Lexus GX 550 with an 8 month waiting period. This presented a window of opportunity to observe these arising fundamental flaws in quality control and their blatant disregard for customer intelligence. After the DPF issues and the way Toyota had to be dragged to court to admit there was a problem as well as these new Prado 250 issues and their responses once again, I just cancelled my Lexus order even though I lost my deposit it's better than ending up with another shitbox. It seems it's a race to the bottom with car manufacturers these days.

[@YZJB]

They should have refunded your deposit…

[@lloydswartz7354]

Every new 4x4 review makes me even more happy we chose a Grenadier.

[@mikepayne5277]

Here in the USA, in order to get one of these with a decent engine, you must go to Lexus. The GX in a lower trim level is $2.5k more and has the V6 twin turbo... sans the machine filings in the short block.

[@SingaporeSling1]

Is that the engine with recalls due to residual machining swarf creating havoc?

[@mikepayne5277]

@SingaporeSling1 Yes, and it took a long time to discover the problem, Toyota replaced a lot of them.

[@sbGOM]

Except Mike, us in the rest of world have to pay significantly more than you guys in 'Murica" for gas/petrol.

[@mattigower1479]

Meantime, a Series II LandRover from approximately 60 years ago, or even a Land Cruiser 50 years ago, providing you put rubber boots on the plug leads, seems to happily continue on through all kinds of water crossings, at any reasonable speed. That said, you can't cruise them at 100 kmph, that wasn't invented 60 years ago. But, if it faded to black, and it never did, in the local Mall, carpark it is very likely it could be quickly encouraged back to life with simple tools like pliers, screwdrivers and maybe a spanner or two. No software required. Wow, haven't traveled far in 60 years? Or, - not so much.

[@RonL-y3v]

Another KZbin expert, you know what they say about experts, they are like buttholes, everyone has one. Just another like all the rest running their mouths about something they know nothing about to get views (money).

[@drewtaylor5453]

I’d love to actually watch this video and listen to what’s wrong with the Prado, but I can’t get past all the random shit you speak. Stay on topic

[@clives4501]

Ah yes mandates. Always such a good idea. From medical interventions, through lockdowns and face coverings and onto the cars we are allowed to buy and now, how they should be driven. So many benevolent experts, so little time.

[@robg6485]

Mandates? No thanks, i prefer Ming Moles! YESSSSSSS

[@Low760]

You seem to miss that emissions regulations have happened for decades, I bet you whinged about removing lead from fuel despite the brain damage it can cause to people as is evidenced by lack of intelligence of most boomers.

[@bert7328]

Just a point regarding literary accuracy John, the man from Snowy River didn't ride the colt from old Reegret, he was chasing it along with all his off-road mates and he rode "... a small and weedy beast , he was somehting like a racehorse undersized, with a touch of Timor pony - three parts thoroughbred at least ...".

[@mylesavan4024]

It’s about time I found a title that says Prado!!

[@Chris_the_Muso]

Not to mention, where mud (ie slippery bottoms) is involved then "walking pace" is a pretty sure way of getting stuck permanently. Every obstacle is dealt with on a "drive it as you find it" basis. As an owner of a previous 1984 Hilux 4x4 that went everywhere I asked it to (including rivers up Cape York and all the sand islands) there's a reason I looked at the 2022 Hilux and said "yeah no, I'm good doooode".

[@Tim12-g7c]

If the only complaint with gwm tank 300 is rear wheels lifting at crazy speed scenario ill take that any day over this shit box. With prado wheels stay on the ground when its running

[@tomcat1370]

Nice to see you back on the interweb John. I missed your wit and charm. I hope you are well and always will be sir. Love and best wishes from Wales uk.

[@angusmcfadzeanh2707]

Is this bloke the most negative review going around. He said Dmax wasnt worth pissing on aswell and iv had brand new one for 18 months and prob one of best vehicles iv owned. All he wants is ppls likes and views of the most talked about cars at the time of the video. Watched 5 mins and that was enough rambling for me. 👎

[@AutoExpertJC]

And still you took time to comment. How's that other brain cell doing?

[@sandman0123]

OMG! There is no car brand left to trust. ☹ I could buy a new car but I'm hanging onto my 14 year old rust-free bucket, until it runs and parts are available for it. Driving a shiny new car is is fun but they also come with significant annoyances.

[@SunRise-ul7ko]

I was looking to upgrade my 2016 VF Commodore. However, I haven't been able to find a new car that's better under $150,000

[@Boababa-fn3mr]

That's why I keep my beat up AU... not much out there appeals to me

[@joelevans6374]

Sedan? I'd have to agree. 4wd - Y62

[@jimmyjango5213]

​@@Boababa-fn3mrAU Falcons are incredibly gross, but you know it will serve you well for a very long time!

[@Low760]

Other than then being stolen. Yep.

[@CobraMade-]

Ditto

[@robertperaic2899]

FFS... someone saying it how it is 👍

[@iamspyvspy3077]

Re loose bolts, Toyota has form, a couple of years ago the wheels kept falling off their unpronounceable EV thingy - BXz4

[@johnb-ke9xi]

with an N of 2 failures, let's latch onto those only and discuss what a shitbox it is for 20 minutes and ignore all of the units bagging miles in the outback without issue. thumbs down mate

[@AutoExpertJC]

Dear genius, Toyota's requirement to cross water at walking pace applies to all of them. Do try to keep up. I realise i's difficult using both brain cells.

[@markpaul8960]

Hi John, love your work. 2.8 litre diesel claiming 7l/100 ks is a flat out lie. My Hilux on a trip to Qld from Melbourne and back on cruise control, averaged 10.5 litres per 100 kilometres. This bullshit has to stop. Unrealistic figures. Maybe driving at 70 kilometres per hour down to 50 on the hills, might achieve those numbers. These manufacturers should be held accountable for bullshit.

[@theairstig9164]

It’s a standardised test with a fully charged hybrid battery

[@Ryan4by4]

I've never achieved claimed figures. My 2016 Prado Kakadu sits on 9.8l/100k with mixed driving.

[@sbGOM]

8.7 in a 300 series Hiace and I drive like a granny on valium.

[@johnflynn5750]

4.8 litres/100km out of my diesel Mazda CX60 which also has a 48 volt mild hybrid system.

[@chrisnielsen27157]

Not to mention,the New Prado requires AdBlue for the diesel models

[@andygarswood6972]

Not sure how most coil over front suspension systems work but the Prado looks like a cantilever mount. Most I've seen are supported in a clevis/thru pin but supported on both sides. Much simpler load case and much less likely to fail.

[@knowname7289]

ok so , "atoyot" couldn't just grab that bolt from a demo to help customer out, too logical?.. the water problem seems like DPF 2.0

[@mathewritchie]

But how many urban commando`s will ever go more off road than parking on the verge?

[@johnsmith-ub7vr]

No matter what Toyota does, the fanboys will keep buying them, guarantee it.

[@arcadyskoit]

The new Patrol will be a soccer mums car as well! I’m glad I have a 2016 FJ

[@malcmo]

I have a 2016 FJ Cruiser as well literally bulletproof one of the most amazing cars I have ever owned !!

[@rossharvey1496]

My big problem with this car is its kerb weight v its GVM. Add the weight of two adults at maybe 150 kg, the tow hitch and the ball weight of a 3.5 t van or even a 3 t van and there are some serious questions to be answered if anything else goes in there. Take out the weight of the 48v system and I bet that was the original target design. I think that the hybrid was a bolt-on afterthought.

[@TheXcrazymanxX]

Correct me if I’m wrong. The car can’t operate if 48V is disabled as it replaces the alternator.

[@buzz9972]

Water gets sprayed around the end.gone bay from the fan. The water spray is in line with the computer in the engine bay which it is in line with. The middle plug is exposed and has no rubber/silicon plugs to stop water running down the wires straight into the computer. Check it out and you’ll see it

[@Beanerds]

We brought a Kettle Toaster combo when we moved into a new house 3.5 years ago and the toaster died a few weeks ago , luckely I put the old combo that are nearly 20 years old in a box in the shed , dug it out and using it again , yes I am waiting for the new kettle to die ! . They have built in shirt so they don't last !

[@jamiegreenwood7996]

motor is very outdated.2.8....back to the times of the older Prados cracking pistons out the middle of nowhere for no apparent reason

[@MichaelRobinson-hy8ms]

Cannot understand the efficacy of installing a hybrid 48v motor if it doesn’t improve the fuel economy. WTF. BASED ON THE 2023 Prado.

[@Normacfan]

Cut out the anti Trump, lefty nonsense John, it doesn't suit you.

[@AutoExpertJC]

Trump's the Muppet in Chief.

[@Normacfan]

@AutoExpertJC stick to engineering, Noone wants to hear your political propaganda.

[@Mrbuckaroonie..]

My 2012 3.2 Lt BT50 will be serving me for a lot of years to come yet. I am looking after it because these new 4WD's sound like a nightmare.

[@YZJB]

Change your EGR cooler before it shits itself

[@aridShrub]

Try driving in the mountain highways of BC in winter; you need ground clearance and good lighting stuff never covered.

[@will_274]

Any Car with AdBlue I will avoid.

[@bamafan-in-OZ]

The mitsubishi L300 vans had an air intake pipe that ran between the drivers tyre and back towards the engine with a channel on the top that conveniently directed the water off the inner wheel arch into the air intake seizing the motor after driving through a large puddle. Apparently they knew about this but somehow couldn't be bothered fitting a cheap piece of rubber to stop this happening.

[@andrewcoulter323]

love your videos especially funny when you get stuck into caravan drivers... lol. Having said that I can't wait to do a lap with a caravan.... keep up the good work John

[@taxus750]

The first review I watched of this "all new" Prado was by Harry Metcalfe (wealthy bloke, loves cars, farmer, all that) and the one thought that stuck with me was: why oh why did Toyo put that sodding miserable 2.8D in it? I mean, it'll do the job in a Hilux ute but in a heavy all-weather all-purpose SUV it's way out of its league (see also the new 79-series). As far as I can tell, all the "mild hybrid" bollocks add is complexity and weight. I don't mind the looks myself, but what the F have Toyo done to the Prado? I always thought a Prado was a decent thing.

[@theairstig9164]

The previous four generations and Lexus derivatives were

[@alasdair4161]

Young UNI engineering graduates find their way into positions of power, and are keen to show how much better they are at vehicle design than those old guys who just retired... All car manufacturers suffer the same fate eventually, Ford however do it over and over.