Autoflowering - Breeding & Commercial Production

Seth Crawford, Oregon CBD, sits down with Shango Los, Shaping Fire and Jeff Lowenfels, Author, Teaming with Microbes to talk about breeding autoflower cultivars and cultivating at commercial scale.
Filmed at the Cultivation Classic in Portland Oregon.

[@Stickyfingers420]

Most education KZbin cannabis channel. You guys rock! We love you 💚💛❤️

[@tomrozier6413]

Jeff is blowing the whole autoflower movement UP! simple common sense.

[@jesusmora6336]

You guys have convinced me to try some autos. I'm starting with some mephisto genetics in living. So far. So good.

[@jesusmora6336]

@ I use 7 gallon pots in living soil and 600 watt led in 5x5 gonna do 9 per light

[@jesusmora6336]

@ hopefully that is enough root space

[@jesusmora6336]

@ thanks for the tips much love.

[@playboymac]

I grow outdoors and the lowest yeild I have gotten off of mephisto genetics was still 2 Oz that's really good, some autos out there do have a 10% chance of completly dwarfing if you don't have at least 7 gallon pot

[@playboymac]

Look up super cropping, it's the best method for high yeilds with autos, don't top them because iv found over the years that they don't recover quickly enough to make a difference,

[@MM-ip9zb]

Fantastic informational material! Thank you for sharing the knowledge

[@jesseh3806]

Thanks Shango! Love Jeff’s take on autos!

[@HavanaWoody]

8:51 thank you for this detail it really enhances my understanding and experience with triggering under 24hr light.

[@larryarsenault]

Had no luck with autos 3 or 4 years back. Autos have improved quite a bit in the last 2 - 3 years. Outside a Strawberry Cough (regular) a Sour Apple auto was the first cannabis plant with a real olfactory experience. Great for the home grower.

[@61loneviking]

In three years of growing autos, I’ve never had a strain ready in 9 weeks. I grow in 5 gallon fabric pots. My Blue Himalaya Diesel will go 90 to 100 days to finish and that’s typical of the strains I’ve grown.

[@BrentRF]

All of the indica dom autos I've grown also take much longer then 9 weeks. Some are 12-14 weeks. The sativa dom rocket up real fast.

[@dustink2847]

61loneviking to big of pots , try a 3. 5 . You have to big of roots and can never water enough.

[@PKMNHUB]

I've had multiple Blue Dream auto from FastBuds finish within week 9, I normally finish them off at 25% Amber Trichomes. 5 gal fabric pot, Happy Frog, PH 6.5.

[@dustink2847]

@@BrentRF buddy your so wrong sativa dom genetics take 9-16 weeks and grow up to 20 feet , indica grow 3-6 feet and take 6-8 weeks . And if your using shit store bought nutes , that cost a few hundred your not going to get amazing achievements . Try a gavita and real nutes

[@BrentRF]

@@dustink2847 Read my fucking post again you stupid fucking moron. I said nothing about nutes. We are also discussing autos not photoperiods. Wait until you are not high before posting bullshit. SMH

[@wessproule5779]

There were decent auto flower seeds floating around the Drumheller Alberta area years before anyone heard of Low Ryder which was really crap.Real story on these is they came back with a Canadian soldier that was in that neck of the woods and gave the ruteralus to his buddy who crossed it with his favourite early outdoor light dependent strain several years later some guys were growing it outdoors with great results others that tried starting them early in 4" pots for to long hated em. They were a bit mold prone if the weather got humid and wet. They were pretty decent on the prairies all in all. Pretty sure there are a few decendants of that old Auto called "BUDZILLA" kicking in a garden or two and in a freezer here and there.

[@rustahu]

Wes Sproule First ones I got were on Vancouver Island. They were called Mighty Mites and I believe Vancouver Island seeds produced them mid nineties. These yanks always think they invented everything.

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Yeeeee but that's not the only place. Ontario had some too. Different genetics probably but yeah. Soldiers always seem to bring back the best genetics and shit.

[@anduin1]

I like autoflowers for outdoor growing in my area since Im relatively far north but for indoor I prefer my photoperiod plants. Maybe I haven't tried enough genetics from autoflower breeders but being able to clone and keep genetics in perpetuity is pretty damn cost effective.

[@sapphireblue222]

In an isolated area, grow male and females together and after pollination and flowering, let them go to seed. You will get hundreds of seeds from 4-5 plants.

[@mmaboxingclips2407]

There’s way to turn a branch male on an auto to beeed

[@MrM0saic]

@@mmaboxingclips2407 colonial silver spray

[@MrM0saic]

Coloidial silver

[@geraldgamble6740]

Omfg THANK YOU. I have been looking for this info. EVERYWHERE PEOPLE ONLINE ARE LIKE JUST GET A 3-5 GALLON SMART POT. I THOUGHT I SHOULD USE AT LEAST A 25 GALLON. NOW YOU CONFIRMED THAT

[@kloudstrife5960]

Legit af with honest opinions on the subject plus great insite , I think autoflowers are useful because they can be small or a super auto variety from the newer strains I notice seed banks putting out there . I can't wait to see one in action going through a full growth and flowering cycle .

[@nicknick5972]

coming to love ur shows bro.good work

[@SuperLazyCat]

the 2 cycles with no tarp is a very good point I never realized that.

[@Michibelle24]

“A Guy”? Really? You guys can’t take time to fact check the NAME of the guy who pioneered the autoflowering phenomenon! So disappointing that credit isn’t given where credit is due! 😠 BTW, I’m that “Guys” wife and watched Sasha quietly and humbly breed this runt of a ruderalis into the phenomenon of autoflowering that has swept over the cannabis industry and opened doors for northern countries to grow outside for the first time! To top that off, Sasha shared these seeds with world like a “Johnny Appleseed” of sorts because he is a kind and humble Genius! So please take the time to Give credit where credit is seriously due!

[@williammwoodjr]

Please do a youtube video with Sasha to educate people on the history of all this. Thank you to you and Sasha. Much Respect!

[@kevdontbothernoone5268]

Thank you for clarifying that for those who view this... I would also like to thank your husband.. 😃✌🏻🙏🏻 THANK YOU.

[@newton2013]

I was hoping this was an interview with him. Thanks for the link I found below! I remember when it was just lowryder. Then lowryder and masterlow... :) I was on his website before it saw an evil administrator. You picked a good husband. Decades later, I can finally know his actual name...

[@BlissFortress]

Thank you, thank you, thank you Sasha!!

[@nicklezetc]

Cü

[@AnthonyBolognese710]

Autoflowers are for more advanced growers. They can yield a lot in an area but they CAN grow large. They need a pristine environment that’s teeming with life if you’re growing in super soil. And if you’re going hydro, they can grow large root systems. They don’t need a lot of nutrients but they do need space. Don’t top them and don’t touch the meristems but do clean up the lower branches and leaves. The act of guiding light penetration is the job of the gardener.

[@laurieedeburn2449]

thanks

[@ReadingInRedding]

that last statement was aaaaamazin'..!

[@ngprojectsyt6537]

Watching this high and... O.M.G. the music at the end. I thought I was gonna die when the video ended

[@tomrozier6413]

the sun is a damn good grow light.

[@walterreznov5515]

I had months of clouds this year and 6inches of water in woods that never had water ever... LED......2000watt...

[@magicrganix4407]

@@walterreznov5515 nobody cares where you live, the sun is the best lighting you can possibly get. I live in ohio which was swamp 150 years ago.. they sucked the water out of the area and created agricultural areas where you qould think could never be a place to farm. Its about you managing your area and if you cant, find some good strains indoor and create your indoor op while experimenting outdoor and see if you can get couple ounces of some flame. Plants love water they just dont like to be suffocated or to be on cold environment.wet is not always the issue

[@mmaboxingclips2407]

@@magicrganix4407 this

[@CC-jy4gr]

@@mmaboxingclips2407 not this

[@pawpawdabs6194]

Thank you

[@billy-tha-kid4206]

They are the future of 24. Hr growing

[@badams63adams48]

I love the autos, I just finished and dried 6 auto ak47, and my lowest was one plant put out 31 zips, thats , cured dried 31 zips for 1 plant. Might as well call that 2 lbs, on one plant.the other 5 produced from 18 zips to 25 zips per plant, dried and cured. Shit that's enough for me. I only grow for myself, and my son, and share with a couple friends that aren't able to grow due to disability. As long as I can have my meds and help a few other folks, then I'm good. Had one I grew outdoors in a 65 gallon fabric pot that grew to 6 and a half feet tall, and put out right over 2 lbs. Its for some, but not all. But I feel like autos have their place. They are making leaps and bounds with the auto flower.

[@TheEmay0519]

What seed company u using

[@mauriceschaeffer5070]

@@TheEmay0519 Yeah bro

[@robertoquintana9481]

I have an autoflower down here at the Mayan riviera it'll be ready in 3 wks and it's one main cola 2ft tall.

[@asdfkjhlk34]

Best channel ever

[@HelloTheNamesJeremy]

no doubt

[@brokencage9723]

size depends largely on the strain of Ruderalis used. Then Pots size and even PH. I have a strain will NEVER get over 3 foot tall most smaller. it's one of my favorites. I get 2-2.4 OZ per square foot

[@_sacredseven_]

Newbreedseeds and maphesto genetics. Got it

[@LawofMoses]

My friend came up with this breeding program for auto flowers with ruderalis 25 years ago, his name was Walter from Canada.

[@mauriceschaeffer5070]

Really I would like to pick the brain of the man next to the Man. lol. I hope you see this.

[@mikehancho1613]

I am currently breeding autos and photoperiods for fast flowering strains being from virgina you have to have something that is extremely mould resistant and finishes fast.

[@devinej8411]

The autos need to be pollenated buy wk 4 and pollenate all if commercial breeding they when done you take ur samples and label all so you can tell wats wat I've done this for 5yrs and I see large yeilding high quality plants you just need to do your research I've seen 1000gram dry plant with 20%+ thc so I have a hard time wanting to grow photos which I have grown for 15+ years. Also I'm a member of Autoflower network and it's absolutely a great place.

[@adamheidecke9923]

Good talk

[@davelyons3361]

I want your seeds! How can i get some?

[@kf7707]

I pop 9 seeds and everytime atleast 2 are 5ft plus, 3 fast ones where they finish 9 weeks and 2 hella frosty and the last 2 are medium yield but tasty asf. Its weird but thats autoflowers for ya

[@slybrethren3252]

would love to know the strain he is talking about at 33:00 that is producing that high cbg. does anyone know ?

[@one-of-us9939]

Wow.

[@mopeaceproductions218]

Thank you for this education ! Now my question is can you clone auto flower? Right now I have a tangerine dream auto strain and a cheese they are about 2weeks I am excited to see the finish product , but yes for me as a beginner rhis the way to go you dig

[@handsomebassman]

You technically can clone, but the cutting will be at the same pre-determined age as the plant it came from. If you got a cutting from a 2wk old auto, your cutting is likely going to start to flower in the week following which will earn you a very tiny plant. There is zero reason to clone an auto.

[@mopeaceproductions218]

@@handsomebassman thank you for your reply YouDig

[@wiehahnvanderwalt216]

How many times can use the Seeds over after a Harvest

[@ohiogarden7585]

My super auto crosses hit 6ft to 7ft ph is key to autoflowers i wish they would stop acting like there are absolutes when growing autos they don't start flower because there roots hit the bottom of the pot and they won't keep growing because you put them in a bigger pot . anything more then 5 gallon is a waste in my opinion

[@Vicstone559]

6 to 7 ft is tall that’s bad ass man

[@Detailpops]

OHIO GARDEN 6.5 ph?

[@ohiogarden7585]

@@Detailpops how acidic the water is

[@Detailpops]

OHIO GARDEN what do you usually PH your water for autos ?

[@ohiogarden7585]

@@Detailpops i like mine around 5.8 i grow coco

[@oldpondfrog788]

Best early auto i had was a LowMaster by a small company called DutchBred. They were the bomb. And there was nothing wrong with the early DieselRider. (_0_)s 😋 18 to 21 days? Has anyone had an auto that actually autoflowers in 18 days from seed? Iv cracked JDs Easy Rider, Lowrider2; DieselRider; SweetSeeds' Killer Kush; Barney's ZOG, SweetSeeds' Sweet Gelato to name some I remember. They have always given a few weeks pre-veg and an extra 3-4 weeks total at the absolute minimum. Jeff's 800grams plant for example I'll wager required more than 3 weeks from seed to flower or pre-flower. How do you build the frame for an 8foot auto in only three weeks? You certainly don't do it outside in the north no matter how hardy.

[@jahpickney2640]

Is there a difference in high with auto plants?

[@mmaboxingclips2407]

No

[@kmcgee1962]

which breed is the best for pain. not all works on pain what is the name of the ones that kill pain

[@jimmyganglia5234]

Hindu dominant strains

[@bicyclejoelofisoundandvisi523]

Is it possible to ask Jeff a question? I’m setting up indoors with living soil. Any particular recommendations for auto flowers in 15 gallon pots? The plan is to start a perpetual grow and empty each bag roots and all at the end of each cycle into a 200 gallon dedicated living soil grow room to incrementally season/cure the living soil. I need a decent yield and top quality for my patients to reach this goal Mid 2020. Signed disabled vet

[@natel9019]

Those pots are too big. Unless you veg for 12 weeks or more. They use to much energy making roots. Indoors 5 to ten gal Max.

[@bicyclejoelofisoundandvisi523]

Nate L Living soil needs to be larger to allow all the microbes, fungi and diverse nutrients to interact. Besides that’s what I have been using and have available ty

[@natel9019]

@@bicyclejoelofisoundandvisi523 No it does not. Fungi and bacteria are microscopic. There is plenty of room in any sized pot to establish a soil food web.

[@bicyclejoelofisoundandvisi523]

Nate L Do it your way but you missed the part that’s what I have available from running 4 in a perpetual garden. I’m interested in creating a 200 gallon indoor garden by recycling my 15 gallon pots. I use one 15 gal per 5x5 9 ft tall tents. The reason I’d like to switch to auto is not having to worry about the lights. I have been told they can stay on 7/24

[@natel9019]

@@bicyclejoelofisoundandvisi523 Most people have different goals. Honestly I didn't know your goals from the beginning. If you are trying to keep your plant count low I understand. I didn't miss the part about work with what you have I was thinking if you could afford extra soil you could afford a smaller bucket which will save you money in nutrients, water, everything. I was a dipshit and used to use 600 gallon pots outside. I later learned don't go deeper than 15 inches it is a waste of work money and time. I use 15 gallons indoor way back in the day I switched to 5 and up my yields. I help people grow on a massive scale and i have to be efficient.

[@microbefeeder]

It was mentioned that if one wants to breed It's best to get regular seeds for a male., but seth said that they only use feminized seeds. Does one make the feminized seeds from plants that were grown from a regular seed? Is it possible to reproduce regular auto seeds to have backup seeds? Like grow two, silver out one of them, and let it pollenate the other girl. Would the genetics be better if one were to spray a flower and them pollenate the other branches? Thanks.

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

So to make feminized seeds you reverse a plant also known as making it herm. Chemical is the best method. Silver or the plant hormone that blocks the female hormones forcing male flowers. Take the pollen. Pollinate a clone is the best method or get pollen from a clone. For auto flowers you'd need a male and female to make regular seeds just like photo periods. To make feminized seeds you'd do the same reversing and such. You can also breed to a different female of the same strain but with different genetics or similar. To male plus female equals reg seeds. Two females makes feminized seeds. Though even properly feminized seeds that only herm under chemical reversal can throw a rare male. Something like 1 in every 3000. So possible to save clone only strains this way but time consuming. Also possible to create more stable pheno lines this way. Some refer to these males as super males. Some refer to super males as males that herm and make female flowers. Apparently these can be used to breed regular seeds with a higher female rate but can probably also introduce hermie traits into the line.

[@_sacredseven_]

I'd just want to make sure the seeds are quality with good genetics.

[@brandonbuchert5259]

Ashden Gibson word

[@mariusadam4429]

38 feet of top soil ????? A three story building I'm want to see that.

[@magicrganix4407]

Yeah i doubt it, thats not how the environment works. Where is the bedrock? Lol 40 feet down? Yeah ok

[@gregorybriggs7229]

I've gotten 11oz dry weight from my auto's before in 5 gallon pots

[@JtJt-bg8rn]

I have some AK47 auto seeds and they aren’t starting 😰🌲 is weather down to 4 deg c to cold?

[@juansalinas2027]

Start them in a sealed glass jar

[@jimmyganglia5234]

No its not 😏 man thats past harvest temperature...so...use your brain

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Yeah....yeah it is. Lol. Indoor grow. Or at least start indoors.

[@_sacredseven_]

I would buy autiflower seeds from these guys. Anyone have any info on that? 80 grams a chola?! Gladly

[@jacobsurrett5928]

He's wrong, I checked. Autoflower seeds sold are almost all female. I had a hard time finding regular mostly sativa autoflower seeds for breeding.

[@jacobsurrett5928]

They are auto assassin from attitude seeds.

[@WombatHide]

Seedsman have regulars

[@T1ger8oi]

13:30 he said you can't breed autoflowers. As in can't breed autos with photoperiod plants? Why can't you breed them? Can you make a female autoflower plant produce pollen sacks?

[@mikehancho1613]

I have and it's a lot of variation but you can find some good varieties if you hunt through them.

[@davecannabis]

i wonder how they would go in aquaponics

[@ericbleyl6203]

They work wonderfully

[@CC-jy4gr]

Someone show me these giant auto flower...

[@cldlsolshinegrowing4366]

Wow what a huge loss to no longer have the cultivar with 50% cannabinoid weight as an unknown compound...

[@detoxinglifepodcast]

I think the plants I have now are auto. Tiny things.

[@loganrhodes6377]

whys the guy in the hat acting all douchy towards Jeff? bow down in the presence of greatness

[@CC-jy4gr]

I didn't know weird al grew weed

[@bhomaster2413]

Autoflowering with cannabis is Toys R Us

[@leo65ish]

I didn't know Weird Al did TED Talks.

[@adams731]

seeds are too expensive to buy all the time and u cant clone a auto!! cannabis ruderalis is that the origin of the auto flower boom???

[@socalcolazz2750]

You can't clone them but you can flip a female and get hundreds of beans from 1 plant

[@adams731]

cool good to know !! but how do you flip her just more hours of light ?

[@socalcolazz2750]

You spay colloidal silver on the bud sights during preflower and it will cause it the plant to herm . I think Grow Pot Cheaply did a video on this recently he gets a little more in depth with it id check it out

[@adams731]

Herd about silver colloidal Before never try it !is it easy to get and not to expensive? Need to post some videos of my grow sometime!

[@HavanaWoody]

@@adams731 Silver thiosulfate a compound created with a diluted solution of silver nitrate and sodium thiosulfate, a pool chemical that removes bromine and chlorine. Very easy to make no heat or reaction risk, maybe stains on hand from nitrates if you are CARELESS.

[@fragelicious]

Why would you want to grow anything else? LMAO. BECAUSE I don't have to. unless you grow outside up north, I'll stick to a non-ruteralis thanks.

[@ronsmith6233]

Can't you clone autoflowering plants?

[@milos906]

Nope

[@LouisVitale420]

You can, but it's a waste because the clone will flower at the same time as the mother.

[@luckycbr600rr]

yyou can not clone auto flowers and that is the biggest problem.. lol

[@813johnnfla]

Autoflowers have been around a long ass time... autoflowers ARE NOT for commercial use I dont care what these fools says... get 10 seeds- same strain same reputable breeder same nutrients same growing environment and you'll still end up with at least 4 different phenos

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Many strains are like that though. Shit you can get more then 4 phenos off a land race. That said you can also stabilize a line into a strain so it produces only one pheno or two. Some land races under natural conditions only produce one or two some more. Chemo types Also vary. And once outside specific environments land races can make loads upon loads of phenos. Same with any strain. Depends how stable it is. Cinderella 99 has a couple. Two are more shape differences then anything else. But still phenos and that's a massively inbred line of basically Jack herer with a bit of shivaskunk. So a pheno of a strain inbred to another strain till it's basically all the same and still throws phenos. Ruderalis are more varied. But can make finding special shit easy. And you can stabilize a line first then use that. Most stabilize the plant only to a certain point cause of time. If flavour smell and effects are the same that's about all they care about. Also depends where you get your autos.

[@okidokimate1097]

I've never smoked an auto flower that was worth a pinch of hen shit! They don't produce much at all and what they do produce is second rate in my view.

[@mikaso]

Sounds a bit like propaganda talk to me.

[@socalcolazz2750]

Search up 3 pound auto

[@teqfrog]

Nope only for fun, autos are average at best and a waste. Jeff is way to excited . Watered down genetics

[@306blak]

Yes, agree with you. I have grown some every year since the first Lowryders came out. Grown many varieties for "fun" but don't smoke them recreationally, end up throwing them away. Short lived, hemp type high. Yuk.

[@playboymac]

What is Seth's company?!? 👀 😋 I wanna try some seeds, iv been growing and breeding autos for years