AutoFPS for MSFS 2024 - AMAZING VR Performance & LESS STUTTERS! Pimax Crystal Light - 4070TI SUPER

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Please note: The TLOD value is lower because I am flying low to the ground. I did not notice the decrease in visual fidelity because I cannot see so far out. This means I get a boost in FPS right where I need it. This would obviously change dynamically if I flew higher.

[@TROUTCOACH]

But can you share your NVIDIA control panel and Virtual desktop and in sim settings? Please and thank you. (Have sim specs

[@TROUTCOACH]

Maybe a vid or screen shots?

[@L_Emir_de_Passy]

Thanks for the video!

[@jamessimmons8352]

Have been enjoying it all day. Great application.

[@daviddahlstrom192]

I just tried this software yesterday after watching the other video you mentioned, and was thrilled with the results on my OG Crystal. I was going to mention that you should cover this too, but you beat me to it. This software does exactly what I had repeatedly asked myself why something like this didn't exist, and why Asobo/MS couldn't have made dynamic performance adjustments work more like this. I still have a lot of further experimentation to do with this, but very cool software that deserves more attention paid to it.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Nice one David. I do try and keep up to date with developments, but it's like a full time job 😂 Thx for watching mate

[@jamessimmons8352]

@@VRFlightSimGuy I feel like there's something new to discover/try every day. Some day everything will just work and you can just start the Sim and fly.

[@ben433]

Sounds promising. I’m actually even more interested in your last comment about the MeganeX!!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Cheers Ben. 😊

[@darrenwhitehouse7665]

Nice to see this hardware video I have 4070ti 5800x3d with quest 3 running open XR toolkit dlss swapper and tweaker auto FPS with super sampling looks awesome and real smooth rock solid now

[@keithbanford8082]

Dlss swapper? What's that do?

[@darrenwhitehouse7665]

@keithbanford8082 just updates dates games to latest dlss where as even msfs 2024 runs on an old dlss driver

[@krookeddreamz09]

Im running a 4070 with a Quest 3 and MY GOD it is the difference of night and day. I would give you 100 thumbs up if I could. THANK YOU!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I'm so glad this has helped you. Makes all the effort making these videos worth it 😊

[@krookeddreamz09]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Keep on making them! You are one of if not the best when it comes to your knowledge with VR and the sim.

[@NavalTechTinkerer]

Wow. I had almost given up with my 4070 super but now I'm looking forward to test this!

[@krookeddreamz09]

@@NavalTechTinkerer I'm not even running a super I have a straight 4070 and Wow is all I can say. You will be happy!

[@soundboy605]

You Der man!

[@Gola60]

Thanks, Steve, this is good news indeed. Gives me hope for my 4080 Super powered PC, and with the Quest 3 👌

[@johnlapensee8039]

I'm a totally new guy to MSFS and just recently got the Crystal Light. Running a 4080 super with 128mb of ram. i watched the Island guy video and going to install it. That was a great video he made and a great explanation of the AutoFPS down load. Now all i have to do is figure out how to install it. DAh

[@MW_1535]

"Running a 4080 super with 128mb of ram" Nice RAM specs! You rocking a Pentium III 733Mhz CPU? If you have Windows 98 drivers for that 4080, please let me know where to find them. Not seeing them on NVIDIA's site.

[@paulh6892]

For me personally I have set DLSS to preset F (game changer) and increased the resolution in Open XR. Usual settings in VD aswell. I did try Auto FPS but found the changing LOD annoying. In the end I returned to Riva Tuner and all is well again. These tweaks have given me the best performance and visuals so far. I have a Q3, 7800x3d and a 4800 Super. Keep up the good work.

[@JTCulverhouse]

Thanks for your comment - not sure what you mean by "set DLSS to preset F"? Can you clarify?

[@paulh6892]

​@@JTCulverhouse If you use DLSS Tweaks you can change all the DLSS presets to F. This gives you improved clarity in VR. You can then run VR using DLSS in performance mode and still have great clarity on the cockpit gauges. I became aware of this in the VR forums on MSFS. Theres a helpful guide that someone did to show you how it's done. For me, like most including Steve it's like searching for the Holy Grail and this is the closest I've got yet!

[@paulh6892]

The guy does use Auto FPS though but I've found for my setup and VFR flying RTSS works the best at locking the framerate but not messing with LOD etc.

[@purduepurdy]

So trying this on my 4070TIS tonight, your videos have helped a lot getting my rig going. I am running a PSVR2 and have been happy with that so far, but feel it has even more potential. Any additional configs you could provide for using that would be EXTREMELY helpful.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Really appreciated that!

[@Choonzy]

saw this, ( and the review/plus your comment) gonna try it. i and many had issues with this in the last couple of months on 2020 and disabled it...tbh it wasnt needed at the end.. hoping this helps us all out...

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Fingers crossed this helps mate!

[@uberdenwolken4564]

Its a shame we still have to use such tools. Poor Asobo…

[@adsilite]

thank you for the video!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

My pleasure!

[@darrenabrahams5499]

Nice video Steve. I noticed TLOD was hovering around 50 and less in your video. Surely this impacted your quality of visuals?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

That's because most of the video I was down low. So I didn't notice. This would change if I was up high

[@victorchan4223]

It would adjust TLOD to maintain your desired fps. It does work but through the expense of lowering your TLOD..by a lot. Is no free lunch. Is either reducing the TLOD yourself to get the fps you want or increasing the TLOD to get the graphic details but with the game stuttering. I like TLOD 200 fyi.

[@BrightSideFX]

Are you connecting through the Virtual Desktop on quest 3?

[@NorbertLing]

Great video Steve !! What's strange is on my setup, I have noticed that on not very far distance mountains, their is no details at all. On your video, mountain that are far (not at max distance) already got details, real shape, not a blurry melted aspect. Any ideas ?

[@stevetb7777]

Awesome... You've been dropping videos in high frequency lately, and I love it! Keep on spamming, lol. I cannot wait for your Meganex impressions! Thanks for the teaser! Yours is the opinion that matters to me.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thx Steve really appreciate that!

[@speedbirdsimulations579]

1st, going to try it now!

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

🤟

[@robvader]

Hey Steve, this looks promising, but I need some help... I downloaded it and can't open it... does it run via the community folder in MSFS 24? Can't seem to figure out how to open the Auto FPS screen like you had it on yours. So, i'm not even sure it's running or working.

[@MrEDET]

Bit confused by the 2 different versions. I installed the one from ResetXPDR who is I think the original developer and recently made it work with FS2024. It seems the version in this video is from KayJay who made the 2020 version working for 2024 before ResetXPDR made it compatible with 2024. The ResetXPDR version doesn't have the 'VR Optimized' setting for example.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

This confused me too 😅 But the correct version is listed in the description now 👍

[@MrEDET]

@@VRFlightSimGuy but now you're not linking to the version from the original dev :)

[@sarryuken8786]

So which one is better and why?

[@MrEDET]

@@sarryuken8786 I think both do exactly the same - for what I understand is that KayJay made ResetXPDR's autofps working with 2024, then ResetXPDR released his own updates version of Autofps. KayJay's version has no option to autostart with FS2024, but he includig a 'vr optimized' option which is not in ResetXPDR's version, but I'm not sure what that option is even doing. Both versions work and in terms of results I didn't notice any difference between both.

[@sarryuken8786]

@ Thanks. Currently playing with medium/high settings with no problems so far. I already have lossless scaling, but last used it a couple of weeks ago as it wouldn’t do anything for me. Gonna give autofps a try. Hoping i can up my fps while increasing graphics to High/ultra instead of medium/high.

[@sarryuken8786]

Does this mean i can up my quality to ultra and autofps will compensate for the fos drop?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Try it and let us know 👍😁

[@krookeddreamz09]

Yes you can I was running medium before with worse results.

[@mayc8160]

Given that the program dynamically adjusts the settings, it's best to leave everything on ultra so that whenever there’s enough leeway, it looks as good as possible-for example, the clouds?

[@I_Evo]

It only really changes three parameters, Terrain Level of Detail (TLOD), Object Level of Detail (OLOD) and cloud quality and you can tick a box if you want it not to touch cloud quality. So in my view you should be aiming for an FPS that is reasonable and achievable for your system, letting AutoFPS deal with the TLOD and OLOD values, as for all your other graphics settings (most of which won't have a great impact on framerate individually) see what you can get away with.

[@TROUTCOACH]

@@I_Evoso put tlod and olod and clouds on ultra and max settings?

[@EthanFilms]

I'm confsued, doesnt MSFS already have a target FPS and dynamic settings? Also, isn't 45 fps half the recommended FPS for VR? (asking cause I don't know any better)

[@KyukiBlade]

Listen the video

[@victorchan4223]

Yes..but it does not always work. Is a hit and miss feature.

[@ShreddingFinn]

If I just set TLOD to 50, does that totally invalidate this?

[@I_Evo]

Do you mean in the sim settings? AutoFPS will override any TLOD and OLOD values you put in the in the sim graphics settings and aim for whatever values you put in the app. Added bonus for TLOD you can select values that are in excess of the maximum value the slider will go to in the sim.

[@PzRSlim]

No because where possible this utility increases TLOD & OLOD to as much as possible whilst maintaining your FPS target. So you hit your target and get the best possible visuals whilst doing so.

[@EmesiS]

Blimey Steve!! Another video? This has got to stop...😉👍

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

😂

[@garthedd]

Thanks for the info. I have a question. When I switch to VR mode I no longer see the menu for AUTOfps. I only see the menu when in 2D. Is there a setting or am I doing something wrong?

[@jerryrivera4298]

Interesting! I'll check this out. It the benefit an approximately number of FPS gained? Or more of a better consistency with FPS overall?

[@SWR112]

Surly FS should send this guy a nice thank you and put it in the actual game, well his version that works. Bit embarrassing if the in-house version doesn’t work.

[@SoullessPolack]

Did this help with far out mountains being blurry? Or is it more just the performance oriented for close things?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I think that's more of an Asobo issue unfortunately.

[@rolanddvorsky5905]

I like the way you do your posts. Informative and short :) Just two remarks. FPS often did not reach target 40 fps, often being around 35, why? Did you set low limit too high or was it because of recording? Also, why 40 fps limit on Pimax? Did you use 120Hz VR mode? Cheers.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Thx I appreciate that. In the video I explain I can reach 45fps when not recording.

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

i have instaled this program... but in auto method i have no vr optimized mode.... PROBLEM SOLVED... I had another version istalled... THX:)

[@josephcatano4705]

So, I have an i9 with 4070ti. I am looking at getting a quest3 for other VR uses outside of my PC. Does this Auto FPS app work to improve VR there as well?

[@andymartin9364]

Great FPS but what about stutters?

[@christianstauderer7686]

Is openxr in the pimax crystal light software included? If not should I download it? Thanks

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes.

[@chrisbellamy2927]

i see youre version has vr auto settings ? how, also how do i send coffee money to him

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Through the link in the description 👆

[@hbieshe]

After seeying your video I realized I was running the wrong version. Now I have the one that has the "VR Optimezed" option. However, as with the other versions, the TLOD and OLOD in the Sim Values section always remain 0 (zero) and don't change. Also not after 5 minutes like someone suggested. Wish I could get that fixed...

[@ResetXPDR]

The readme for any of these app versions tells you how to resolve that.

[@airsheep]

Thanks, very interesting. I just tried but there is no "VR Optimized' settings next to teh Auto Method under Expert Options and I do not see any changes though vr flight. Do you have any idea why that option is missing?

[@corstenshangar478]

this is KayJay´s version in video. But wrong link in description.

[@simpedros4766]

@@corstenshangar478which one do we use? Island sim pilot had the other one

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@simpedros4766 Link now fixed

[@airsheep]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks, it is now works!

[@Swedish-VR-Pilot]

Does it work for FS2020?

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

Why not record with a separate laptop?

[@kkpriest5880]

Let’s see if that helps. I have quite old system tho 😬

[@arnaudjulien24]

Thank you for this very interesting video. However, the images you show are those visible on your screen and not those visible in the helmet (in the helmet, the Auto FPS window doesn't appear) and that makes all the difference since the image on the screen is always of better quality than the one in the helmet. Am I mistaken?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I've done this for the purpose of the video. Call it, clever editing. As for you, set and forget. Don't worry about staring at the auto fps screen. Just enjoy the better smoothness.

[@arnaudjulien24]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Thanks for your reply. In fact, all the VR videos of the FS2024 that you see on KZbin are a bit dreamy because they don't show what you can actually see in the headset. That said, it would be great if you could also try it out with the Quest 3. For example, should you keep the ‘Dynamic Settings’ given that it's actually replaced by Auto FPS and what about the Virtual Desktop configuration?

[@malkuth1974]

@@arnaudjulien24 I can’t speak for the crystal light that VRguy has but the image you’re seeing on screen is not the one you see in VR. But it’s subjective because of how VR works and what you have for a headset. But VR in general is superior to flat screen, because it looks almost…. Almost real.

[@Banliath]

24 still isn't VR ready. Too many bugs still. No Toolbar, black box after switching into VR, randomly doesn't let me click anything on the plane. Sticking with 2020 for now

[@kevin1873]

TLOD Base 45 😳

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Read the pinned comment

[@MI-wf1lw]

Does it make sense to use this with 4090 + 7800X3D ?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes

[@Boslandschap1]

Is this with OpenXR?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Affirm.

[@Swedish-VR-Pilot]

Does it work for FS2020?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Yes. I said this in the video

[@yhdez85]

Close call at 0:23

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Glad you noticed 😅

[@StekuVideo]

No surprise you are getting a nice FPS with TLOD 52. You can also set it directly in the sim, but the terrain quality will suffer.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

You've missed the point. It's dynamic. So it changes depending on your flying.

[@vracan]

why did you choose 40fps for the target fps when your fps of your crystal is running at 45fps?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Due to recording 👍

[@vracan]

@@VRFlightSimGuy so if you were'nt recording you would set it to 45fps?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

​@@vracanYes. Although feel free to even try something lower. Due to DX12

[@vracan]

@@VRFlightSimGuy thanks!

[@poolhallshark]

Nice, Steve. I did watch IslandSimPilot's video yesterday, and this looks really promising. I have exclusively been using DLSS with the 1.500000 secondary scaling in the cfg file, so if I want to use TAA mode again, I guess I'll have to go back to the default in the cfg file as well? This may VERY well be a stupid question, but I'm a bit lost regarding that 1.5X thingy...LOL I believe the default was 1.00000 ? Or is the 1.500000 only a problem when going quality in DLSS ? 😁😁 Love from Norway ♥♥♥♥♥

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Hey mate. Yes make sure to change it back if you want to use TAA. Just change it back to 1.5 and it will add in the correct zeros when saved 😊

[@poolhallshark]

@@VRFlightSimGuy Hmm.. So 1.5 is the default value, as you said change it BACK to 1.5 ? Or did you mean change it back to 1.0 ? Sorry for bugging you 🙂

[@Albert_the_Albatross]

@@poolhallshark The original value is 1 not 1.5

[@DoogieFresh]

I think I need this in my life. Asobo's version su-didly-ucks!!

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

Thx for this Video.. But you Discord server link doesnt work anymore.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

discord.gg/fyFWYmWV

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

@@VRFlightSimGuy same problem

[@Gutchess9130]

This is really cool, I'll defiantly try this out! While I'm here, I wanted to also ask you guys if you all know how to fix a certain weird glitch I am having with link cable msfs 2024 VR. When using the link cable in vr, when I look up at a clear blue sky, it starts to do weird shimmering and glitching. It doesn't effect my fps, but it hurts my eyes and it does effect my overall experience. It doesn't happen when there are clouds either which is weird. Does anyone know how to fox this?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I've seen this too. I fixed this by using Virtual Desktop 😅

[@lurchilurch5507]

But the FPS counter shows 36-38 a lot of the time? That would not be smooth at 80hz

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Recording as explained in the video

[@sascenturion]

Hi Steve Thanks for Highlighting this and will give it a go But ...to be honest at the moment im getting really cheesed off with msfs2024 what with all its bugs, and like yourself i get really peeved with terrain not loading in ,always seem to get the "low bandwidth" message (dev mode says im downloading at 2 to maybe 6mb even though my bandwidth is the "recommended" speed of 100, speed test done before and after loading the sim). in pancake mode. The sim has great potential i must admit but god is it frustrating 😢 , ive a high spec pc including msi 4090 card and pimax crystal. Sorry to moan lol ...and look forward to you posting vids so dont worry about too many of them 😅. Cheers

[@darnedghost2008]

I haven´t had any bandwidth issues, but UK internet is quite famous to suck if you live there?

[@sascenturion]

@@darnedghost2008 Moved to Germany few years back ...live in the sticks too lol

[@guylarochelle9793]

Why not KayJay’s version??

[@corstenshangar478]

this is KayJay´s version in video. But wrong link in description.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Link now fixed.

[@badewannenwikinger2522]

Does this also working in VR with myt meta quest 3? I ahe the problem with Virtual Desktop and performance. I have all the time latences only on the game not on networt or sonething else.

[@gizmo104drives7]

Only answer questions from subscribers??? Cant you set comments to subscribers only if thats the case?

[@SK-wv8gb]

Don't wanna be nitpicking but the tool never showed you have 45FPS but most of the time rather mid 30s...😉

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I literally explain this in the video 👆

[@SK-wv8gb]

@@VRFlightSimGuyHi, not getting that information there but it doesn't matter. Great tool, I use it for days now, unfortunately does not cure the FPS suffering when looking down in the cockpit at high altitudes.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

@@SK-wv8gb That sounds like a different issue.

[@SK-wv8gb]

@ yeah, VFR flyers will never come across this issue.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

​@@SK-wv8gbThe higher you are, the better fps you will achieve. So it might be something else that's causing the issue

[@haydenchapman3431]

AutoFPS for the win, has helped me significantly on my triple screen setup.

[@Rockett16]

It's a lot cheaper to build your own PC.

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Not everyone is confident to do that, or wants to, or, would prefer a 3 year warranty

[@TheGraySloth]

Why are you tearing ur hair out. Use a quest 3 with Virtual desktop. U would have what u want. Its that POS pimax u all hyped up

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

I do use the Quest 3. Lots of vids on the channel.

[@Wilem35]

@resetXPDR Thanks Reset!

[@ResetXPDR]

You are not welcome 🤣