The perfect Crossover? Audi A4 Allroad quattro FULL REVIEW 2018 A4 Avant - Autogefühl

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@Cef3axon1
@Cef3axon1 7 жыл бұрын
Nobody needs car better than this one. Perfect for everything.
@adrianhrusca4067
@adrianhrusca4067 3 жыл бұрын
Most people wouldn't afford one either...
@joelap1405
@joelap1405 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianhrusca4067 well there are different options for these type of cars
@joelap1405
@joelap1405 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianhrusca4067 for example the Seat León X-Perience, i have one an is the same of these allroad but for the "poors" xdd
@ZekeMagnum
@ZekeMagnum 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the V60CC but i donno yet...
@adrianhrusca4067
@adrianhrusca4067 Ай бұрын
I have am a3 quattro..."baby allroad"...steel oil pan protection. Very good on snow, ice, wet ice, where I go skiing. But a4 allroad will be next.​@@joelap1405
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas. I just bought my Allroad 2.0 Tfsi this week - pleased to move back to petrol. Great to see a full length review of the Allroad and of course to see you (and Autogefühl) cover the car in detail - you had a but better weather than Holger did in his short review - no cats and dogs today :-) After taking your advise I ordered my car with alcantara rather than the leather (animal skin) and I am pleased to have chosen it. I know this subject is close to your heart. Some leather still on the side bolsters but not so much. I ordered many of the options and I agree the dynamic steering is worth having - for me a real pleasure. My children have enjoyed learning about the new technology. I agree with your likes and your criticisms. More room is needed in the rear passenger space. I will keep a check on the braking question next time there is heavy rain. As always a big thanks to everyone at Autogefühl
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Mark Bennett awesome mark!!
@thandermax
@thandermax 7 жыл бұрын
Difference between petrol vs diesel onroad feel ? Does it have enough grunt to pull the car ?
@newbeginnings8566
@newbeginnings8566 7 жыл бұрын
For me it is just fine. I had a A4 3.0tdi quattro before. That had a certain longer power surge at certain speeds but in general use this 252BHP engine feels very good to me with excellent acceleration. Yes you'll lose economy but I like the lack of rattle of the engine and the enjoy not having smell from the diesel exhaust. I do not regret choosing the petrol version and don't miss the diesel at all.
@numcapsscroll
@numcapsscroll 6 жыл бұрын
Is it 2017?
@adrianhrusca4067
@adrianhrusca4067 Ай бұрын
​@@newbeginnings8566also taxes, dpf, egr, adblue, slow heating in winter, expensive drivechains/ belts etc. Maybe high mileage and/ or high speed autobahn justifies 3.0.tdi, for the rest tfsi should be better.
@blueman18423
@blueman18423 4 жыл бұрын
Listening to him talk is rather soothing. Great video!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 4 жыл бұрын
🙏
@gvaley
@gvaley 7 жыл бұрын
I own the current generation A6 Allroad and I can report that as a type of vehicle, it works extremely well. Perfect on-road handling and comfort, no lean at all, and better ground clearance than Nissan Qashqai and Toyota RAV4. Definitely preferable to a crossover. The A4 Allroad seems very similar except for the variable ground clearance that the A6's air suspension provides. I also strongly recommend the tiptronic to the S-tronic. It's leaps and bounds better to drive and has better reliability and lower maintenance costs.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+gvaley 👌
@siphonsnob
@siphonsnob 7 жыл бұрын
I remember when a subscriber asked for a review of the All-Road and you replied that it was basically an A4 Avant with plastic wheel arches, so no need for a review. I am glad that you did one anyway.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+siphonsnob always trying to fulfill the wishes 😊
@michaeltorres2377
@michaeltorres2377 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, great review! I bought the allroad last year and have had zero problems with over 12,000 miles on it. My passengers always comment on how smooth and quiet the car is. Here in Southern California, we can only get the allroad with the 2.0. I guess my only complaint, is that here in the USA, we can not get it with a trailer hitch.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback !
@chrislockey7706
@chrislockey7706 4 жыл бұрын
I drive an A6 allroad 3.0tdi, I didn't go to buy an allroad but was offered a good deal from the dealer. Another great review Thomas.
@lavoltare6307
@lavoltare6307 7 жыл бұрын
I had to look for so long and was unable to find a review on the A4 allroad and now i have, thankyou. I did order mine and it arrives in 2 weeks. :))
@AndreiAnastasescu
@AndreiAnastasescu 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Autogefuhl team! i asked you a few months ago for this review and now here it is! Great work, excellent channel !!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, thanks so much! And yeah, we try to fulfill our viewer's wishes
@caraddicted6794
@caraddicted6794 7 жыл бұрын
The allroad models of Audi (A6, A4) are really great alternatives for a SUV because they aren`t that heavy and huge. Nevertheless you have a higher seating position than in a “classic” estate! I would always prefer an allroad model over a SUV. Well done 👏
@joelap1405
@joelap1405 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, these type of cars are the most
@joelap1405
@joelap1405 2 жыл бұрын
In these video doesn't see a good test for these car, go off-road
@christill
@christill 7 жыл бұрын
I like this concept way more than actual SUVs. It’s a pretty decent compromise and the sensible choice. But the sensible choice seems to not really apply so much at the moment. In Europe, huge numbers of people are brainwashed into thinking they need a bigger car than they actually do because of a huge marketing push by the auto manufacturers. Every time I hear an ad for a car manufacturer it’s about their crossover line or ‘which KIA SUV is right for you?’ for example. But anyway, I like the car and the feeling of having a bigger car but without the actual size is really cool.
@ravikanuri1063
@ravikanuri1063 7 жыл бұрын
Thomas -- you are the best! Always enjoy seeing your reviews that are factual and informative without any BS. I am a fan!!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Ravi Kanuri thanks you. Please stick to us
@rafaelguevara379
@rafaelguevara379 7 жыл бұрын
Professional presentation, very good, thanks thomas.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Rafael Guevara 🙏🙏
@nikolaskareem3720
@nikolaskareem3720 3 жыл бұрын
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@abramharry721
@abramharry721 3 жыл бұрын
@Nikolas Kareem instablaster =)
@nikolaskareem3720
@nikolaskareem3720 3 жыл бұрын
@Abram Harry thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and im trying it out atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@nikolaskareem3720
@nikolaskareem3720 3 жыл бұрын
@Abram Harry it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy! Thank you so much you saved my account!
@kevakevincek7040
@kevakevincek7040 7 жыл бұрын
BTW he is not bullying you.he just wanted to pass you, because you always forget to move on a right side even when you dont overtake anybody...left side is for overtaking not for cruise control...
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+keva kevincek speed limit is speed limit
@kevakevincek7040
@kevakevincek7040 7 жыл бұрын
you can do your speed limit on the right line to...
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+keva kevincek there is no birth right to exceed the speed limit
@kevakevincek7040
@kevakevincek7040 7 жыл бұрын
you know you,re doing it wrong, but you still find an excuse. ask some car instructor how to behave on highway. he will explain to you. dude imagine like everyone driving like you, it would be a traffic jam from paris to munich..i am making 50k km pear year in the car so i know those smart ass guys like you on highway very well. btw great review :D
@OhhDaarBenJePerry
@OhhDaarBenJePerry 7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Thomas, but i do have to say that you were leftlane hogging, even if the speedlimit 100, some poeple drive 105 and it is annoying when somebody is in the left lane... The rules are that you need to keep right all the wime whenever you can.
@gordonbennett6057
@gordonbennett6057 7 жыл бұрын
Yes Thomas, at 11:36, I liked your amusing description of some who misread the check engine light as a fault! Thanks for reading, and responding, to our comments - always such good detail and attention from Thomas. Great Review. Very enjoyable driving part. Many thanks, Team.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
=) hope u also enjoyed your reference!
@gordonbennett6057
@gordonbennett6057 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely Thomas, thanks! Always enjoy (all) your videos, too.
@stve_snt5286
@stve_snt5286 7 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this review for some time. "Something called winter" LOL. Nice! One of vehicles I'm considering buying. Thank you - Thomas and team for an awesome review.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
you're welcome!
@mariob.3232
@mariob.3232 6 ай бұрын
Quite beautiful car. I still prefer the front grill from the S-Line, but this one is also nice. Comparing to SUV prices, the space and comfort a crossover offers, overall we get more for less price from a crossover. That seems my impression
@hamishdunham
@hamishdunham 7 жыл бұрын
27.27 Well done, Thomas! Gordon will appreciate you mentioning him. Autogefühl always being mindful of its fans through great interaction.😊
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Hamish Dunham 😎
@gordonbennett6057
@gordonbennett6057 7 жыл бұрын
+Hamish - I know you "must always be watching the whole piece" too Hamish! Well done! Cheers!
@syncsummit
@syncsummit 3 жыл бұрын
I have this model, it is truly excellent. My other car is an S5, which is also excellent, but for an everyday car, the A4 Allroad is a great combination of practicality and fun.
@GZQNW
@GZQNW 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, I met Tomas today at the airport, super nice guy to bad I had not much time to talk to him. But yes really cool guy with good videos.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
Great to meet you! :)
@epsneb
@epsneb 6 жыл бұрын
Similar issue with brakes on wet road. After 20 km on heavy rain breaks are weak and I need to pump 2-3 times to get rid of water remains.... that is very frustrating nad dangerous. On rainy days I need to be prepare for extra brake pedal pumps to get full brake assistance.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback! Seems that is really something...
@epsneb
@epsneb 6 жыл бұрын
BTW - have you contacted Audi and gotten any feedback on this? Today it was heavy rain and I had checked this issue closely. Breaks were week for 3-4 sec. After 2-3 pumps on break pedal it was much better but just for 10-15km. Unfortunately the same scenario came back few times for entire 150km trip. Definetly this has to do with water on the road and heavy rain. No such problem with breaks on dry roads. Few times on 150km distance also had few left/right issue drag with breaks. I will report this today to local dealership and ask for inspection during planned service. Very dangerous! And annoying when there is no full brake assistance available on heavy rain!
@hanshensen8660
@hanshensen8660 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Thomas, I took delivery of this car in January of this year and drove to Geneva (from Luxemburg) in March. During the return journey it was raining hard and I experienced the very same incident you spoke about in the video. Upon braking the car jerked (rather violently) to the left. I tried it a few times and it happened at least 4 more times. I complained to the local Audi garage and a test drive was organised. Unfortunately it was not raining and the car did not manifest the same problem. It does not inspire a great deal of confidence knowing that this is a known problem with A4's (my garage denies all knowledge). Other than that it is a great car: very economical (on a long motorway trip with 5 adults and luggage driving at a steady 130 km/h I averaged 6.2 l/100 kms). It is pretty fast, sporty, the V6 sounds great and it is very comfortable......BUT knowing that this problem exists I contemplate replacing the car soon.........
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Hans oh wow thanks 4 the feedback!!
@Receptor91
@Receptor91 2 жыл бұрын
Had this Allroad 4 years 60k km drove it with 7.7 l/100km but I used to drive >200 km/h on Autobahn. If you drive over 20 km and with max 130 km/h you can drive it below 6l/100km
@KeyserSoze985
@KeyserSoze985 7 жыл бұрын
Finally A4 Allroad...I love it :) Great review, thank you Thomas :)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
you re welcome =)
@I95CRUZR
@I95CRUZR 6 жыл бұрын
Great review (as usual), Thomas! I have been seriously looking at purchasing the Audi A4 Allroad as it has the driveability of an avant and the load carrying capability of an SUV, and your video helps my case.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
thanks and feel free to share! :)
@chetthehoss
@chetthehoss 6 жыл бұрын
It really is quite amazing to see so many differences between cars in European countries and the same model in North America.
@ethan073
@ethan073 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent review. I’m planning to buy this car next year.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ethan. Let us know when you got the car!
@apoc_uk5364
@apoc_uk5364 7 жыл бұрын
Great style of reviewing. Thanks. I’ve never seen or felt that steering issue on my Audi A4 Avant 2017.
@greatestsportslegends
@greatestsportslegends 3 жыл бұрын
A few observations... 1- great, detailed review from a mostly non-technical perspective. Great info for the everyday, casual viewer. 2- excellent video quality and editing. So many other fall way short of what you have done here. 3- I love that you merged onto the highway at precisely 100 km/h. Very German. Well done. I will definitely watch more videos you create, and let people know about you. Only wish you could convince Canada to bring the TDI version here. LoL Cheers.
@jean-yvesploussard4279
@jean-yvesploussard4279 2 жыл бұрын
Hi very good video ! congratulations. What do you think about the 40 TDI 190 in this car? is it brings enought performance? I just bought one A4 40 ALLROAD TDI QUATTRO S TRONIC AVUS. I hope I will be not deseappointed by the engine 190 hp ?
@tiagocarvalho983
@tiagocarvalho983 Жыл бұрын
Hi! I am interest in the 40 tdi. What is your experience so far. If feels lack of power? Thank you
@meisterhand5436
@meisterhand5436 Жыл бұрын
I have an A4 b8 avant 2.0 TDI with 170 HP and the performance is overall very satisfying, its enough to easily overtake on the autobahn. The 40 TDI has 204 HP and +50 NM so it should be even better.
@davidgiles9751
@davidgiles9751 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to own an A4 Allroad, however, the price is hard to justify. I ended up buying a 2018 VW Alltrack SE for half the price of an Audi. It's not an Audi, but it does everything I need with ease - and in a very sporty manner.
@jdpb63
@jdpb63 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. The 2.0 engine is the only choice in the US. I love the exterior and the A4 dash, and seriously considered it -- wanting the driving characteristics of a sedan and the utility of a wagon -- but went with a Q5 Prestige for a few reasons: 1) the Allroad is priced a few thousand more than the Q5; 2) back seat legroom would soon be tight for my growing kids; 3) when I road tested it, it drove less like an A4 sedan than I expected (floatier and a bit wandering); 4) when all the other cars are SUVs, and you lose forward visibility in a wagon, and 5) in the US, it is rare and has more of an "elite" status -- the Outback for rich people. And another thing: the Audi sales guys seemed to sell away from Allroads and push me towards Q5s.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback!
@iantaf5559
@iantaf5559 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Thomas. Top class review for a classy looking car. Liked the coat!!! 👍🏼
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+ian taf cheers pal!
@hanshensen8660
@hanshensen8660 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Thomas, have you had any further feedback on the braking problem either from Audi directly or other owners? I spoke to the customer service of Audi France 4 weeks ago and it appears that the ''complaint'' was just put on a pile and not taken seriously. Nothing has been done so far. I will be leaving on a wintersport vacation next week thinking I would be travelling in a very safe 4x4 car. Turns out the car is just a danger on the road. Look forward to your reply......thanks.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
I will re-check, didnt get the answer yet
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
They said they could not reproduce the error. But other messages show that I am obviously not mistaken
@markocokolic277
@markocokolic277 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Thomas! Thank you very much for your nice video. I was planing to buy used one from 2017. or 2018. yrear of production. Mr. Thomas, could you please tell is that problem with brakes on rain so big that one should give up from buying this car? Is it same problem with A4 avant?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Cheers!! I did some research and Audi says the problem doesn’t exist… little bit confusing. There are a lot of A4 on the road anyways without problems. Just check that tyres still have good profile
@roverroko306
@roverroko306 4 жыл бұрын
Agree this a complete and very sovereign machine, like Thomas would state. Thomas I must say, I was so irritated by this Merc which just interrupted your train off thought exactly when you're talking about a very interesting part about this crossover. The ZF 8 speed torque converter gearbox. BTW your should have continued to talk about this transmission and quattro setup, I really wanted to know every detail about it's performance. As I said before, unfortunately your review of Audi A4 with this higher powered V6 tdi is the first review to mention this very important fact about the difference drive train and quattro. Maybe some people don't realise it's not a small difference but a very important one, at least to a passionate driver. I would really like to see a review for this type of setup in Audi A4, either this or Saloon S-line with V6 tdi 272hp and permanent quattro done just about this difference on offer. Ofcourse the performance and the feeling, which is better at what e.c.t. None the less Thomas you are one of the KZbinrs who really knows what to talk about when reviewing a specific vehicle, thus interested parties can always learn something new. Which should be the point of this in the first place. ☻😉
@sgtc4538
@sgtc4538 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas - FANTASTIC review as always. Nice A4 Allroad. I think I prefer the Passat Alltrack - lot more space in the back, I like the interior, it's just a little longer, and is less money. If you want a more compact 4WD, then you could spec-up a SWB Tiguan Comfortline, or SEL, with every extra, and this is less money still - and is more comfortable in the back seats than an A4; and is similarly equipped with HUD, 3-Zone, DCC, Active Info Display, Area View, LED's, etc.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the support!
@puttaiyakumar5721
@puttaiyakumar5721 7 жыл бұрын
sgtc 4 - the Tiguan is not in same segment, or class, as the A4 Allroad - an SUV equivalent would be more like the Q5?
@adrianhrusca4067
@adrianhrusca4067 2 ай бұрын
​@@puttaiyakumar5721nor is the alltrack.
@rokkercmar8600
@rokkercmar8600 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, calm presentation, enjoyed it.
@Revelation13-8
@Revelation13-8 Жыл бұрын
Should i use the sport drive gear option all the time or not ? what is it used for , what benefits does it have ?
@drsparwaga
@drsparwaga 7 жыл бұрын
I drive an Audi A4 saloon which I bought a month ago. We had a massive snow storm here in the UK recently. I drove after the snow melted away and that brown sludge remained. I did not notice this issue that you discussed when breaking on wet roads. Is there a specific reason why Audi’s backseats don’t fold down after the leaver is pulled Thomas? For an Audi I find that rather embarrassing. Other brands are doing this a lot better. Definitely something Audi needs to work on if there is no reason for them not to fold down.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Dr Sandeep Parwaga thanks!
@Zeus-se9pv
@Zeus-se9pv 7 жыл бұрын
I love that indicator sound
@mehmetaoz
@mehmetaoz 7 жыл бұрын
Again professional, sincere and detail review Thomas. Q series or Allroad series depend on customer choice. This car looking strong and stable.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Mehmet Ali Öz indeed!
@antoha5552
@antoha5552 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always;)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Vitamin Vitamin thanks!!
@tipazas
@tipazas 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how that road signs recognition works? It only shows what it sees? How flexible it is? For example if you leave the city then speed limit sets to say 90 even without explicit speed signs, what limit it shows then? Or if there is speed limit before crossroad, which ends by default after it (I think it applies to Germany as well).
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Vaidas Kazakevičius map plus camera info
@cristian8471
@cristian8471 7 жыл бұрын
Bravo thomas! Good video, man
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Cristian ION Cristian ✌️
@PaulB__
@PaulB__ 7 жыл бұрын
Super cool! Friday evening event is watching Autogefühl!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+PaulB yeah!!
@caet49
@caet49 7 жыл бұрын
U are the Best......”winter/light info was spot on” regards from Denmark aka winter country👍
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
venlig hilsen =)
@adnedanielsen
@adnedanielsen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good review. I own a similar car (the 218 hp version though). I live in Norway and drive often on wet and snowy roads and I have never experienced brake problems. Maybe it was something wrong with the built in disc wipers on this specific car? I believe also that the 218 hp version have the same Quattro system as the 272 hp version.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Ådne Danielsen thanks! Good question.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Ådne Danielsen 218 hp is different btw as i said
@adrianhrusca4067
@adrianhrusca4067 2 ай бұрын
218 hp.has qattro.ultra and dsg gearbox, due to lower torque. So similar with the gasoline engine.
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Der Verbrauch ist auch relativ hoch weil das automatikgetriebe zwar sehr früh schaltet und man cruist bei 1000 u/min herum aber das ist weit auserhalb des optimalen arbeitsbereichs (laut muscheldiagramm) eines dieselmotors. Der Optimale bereich liegt bei 1900-2200 da der wirkungsgrad und der verbrauch am geringsten. Bei Turboaufgeladenen eventl. 200-400 u/min niedriger. Was mich auch wundert ist wie sich da der dpf überhaupt regenerieren kann bei solch niedrigen drehzahlen. Ich fahre einen M57n2 Motor im x3 mit 280ps und 580nm. Da ist der verbrauch auf der Autobahn mit tempomat und 100 kmh(hab die geschwindigkeit gewählt damit ich wirklich konstant fahren kann) bei ca. 6.5L und das an der zapfsäule gemessen. Der Dreht bei 100 kmh ca. 1800u/min und gurkt nicht bei 1200 u/min herum. Außerdem entsteht im nicht optimalen drehzahlbereich mehr ruß was auch zur erhöhten motorölbelastung fürht und auch den dpf stärker belastet. Mmn eine fehlentscheidung die die getriebe der aktuellen autos so zu programmieren. Es ist zwar leiser im innenraum aber die Konsequenzen sind es nicht wert.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
interessant!
@Digi20
@Digi20 7 жыл бұрын
Jein. Dieser Bereich vom Kennfeld, in dem der Motor am effektivsten Läuft, liegt meist bei annähernd Volllast (sagen wir 90% Last) bei etwa 1/3-1/2 Motordrehzahl. Wenn du also beim Benziner einen Gang wählst, mit dem du eine Steigung bei annähernd Volllast mit 2500rpm und konstanter Geschwindigkeit rauf fährst, liegt da dein Verbrauchs Minimum. Den Berg stattdessen mit Halbgas in einem kleineren Gang rauf fahren wird mehr Verbrauchen. Nun ist es aber so, dass wir heute keine 20PS Motoren mehr fahren, und die Maschine beim dahin rollen mit z.b. 100kmh in der Ebene völlig gelangweilt ist, und in einen schlechten Wirkungsgrad fällt (das ist der untere Bereich des Muscheldiagrams). Wie kann ich diesen Wirkungsgrad nun steigern? In dem ich ihr mehr Last abverlange. Wie mache ich das? Ich übersetze das Getriebe im größten Gang so lang, dass es fast volle Motorkraft benötigt, um das Tempo zu halten. Dadurch klettert mein Betriebspunkt im Muscheldiagram wieder nach oben. Dass es jetzt eventuell etwas zu wenig Drehzahl ist, um ganz perfekt im Betriebspunkt zu liegen, macht nicht viel aus. Einen kleineren Gang mit (viel) mehr Drehzahl, dafür weniger Last zu wählen, wäre deutlich weniger Effektiv. Deshalb werden heute ja 8, 9 und 10 Gang Getriebe gebaut, um diesen optimalen Betriebspunkt über einen breiten Geschwindigkeitsbereich zu halten. Generell sollte die Getriebesteuerung da schon wissen, was sie macht, und 1000rpm 90% Gas könnten effektiver als 1300 Touren 70% Gas sein. Mit dem Downsizing und/oder Zylinderabschaltung versucht man übrigens das Gleiche. Beispiel 1.4er TSI mit Zylinderabschaltung: 2 Zylinder mit effektiv 0,7 Litern Hubraum müssen schwerer arbeiten, als 4 Zylinder mit 1,4 Litern Hubraum, und verschieben dadurch die Last vom Motor in den oberen Kennfeldbereich vom Muscheldiagram. Klingt komisch, is aber so. Im Idealfall hätte man ein Getriebe, welches eine unendlich weite Übersetzung dynamisch zur Verfügung stellen kann. Und einen Motor, der dynamisch seinen Hubraum verändern kann. Das versucht man ja auch mit CVT und x-Gang Getrieben, und Zylinderabschaltung.
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Danke für die ausführliche Antwort. Also entweder interpretiere ich das muscheldiagramm falsch oder es stimmt nicht das bei 1000 u/min und viel last der motor weniger verbraucht als bei zb ca 2000u/min und 80% last. Denn bei 100% last und 1000u/min ist bei jedem muscheldiagramm nie der optimale betriebspunkt und der geringste verbrauch - sieht man auch an der oft eingezeichneten kurve... Was auch nicht zu vernachlässigen ist das bei kaltem motor und solch niedrigen drehzahlen bei 500-600nm last ist auch nicht gerade optimal da der motor da viel rauher läuft und diese meistens dann nicht mal mehr die 200tsd km marke ohne schaden schaffen.
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Foto4Max da gehts nicht primär um co2 sondern um ruß und nox. Nein die von audi wissen schon was sie tun. Aber irgendwie ist das schon eigenartig mit dem was ich oben angesprochen habe.
@Fuxser
@Fuxser 6 жыл бұрын
I have that car! I love it, very good to drive. Very accurate review thank you
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
+Fuxser 👌
@roverroko306
@roverroko306 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fuxser, nice to know a real owner is present. I hope you don't mind me asking some questions about the performance of this beautiful machine?
@Fuxser
@Fuxser 4 жыл бұрын
@@roverroko306 Sure thing, i got the 2 litre 190hp diesel engine. It's not the fasttest, but the gearbox works great, so it feels much quicker then it really is. Also in Norway there is no speedlimit above 100, so no point on the petrol engine for me. But 2+ years after i bought it i still love it, not been a single problem with it.
@tipazas
@tipazas 7 жыл бұрын
About lane assistant.. In new Lexus LS if assistant can't catch on lane markings properly it sticks to a car in front of you, and if it goes for overtaking, the you also go in opposite lane after him, crazy realisation I think, good if he overtakes, not goes out of the way if fell asleep :-)
@mullerissa7752
@mullerissa7752 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome review thanks Thomas. I really like your honest opinion in all cars
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Muller Issa thanks!!
@joker9152
@joker9152 7 жыл бұрын
Thomas I have nothing to say, what a great review what a great detailed review and great content. Watching the whole video with enthusiasm. Keep up the good work! Cheers buddy!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Karen Panama 👌🙏🙏
@stephensmith6410
@stephensmith6410 3 жыл бұрын
Very good review. I have not experienced the braking problem. Here in the US we have few options for a sport wagon, I am happy with my allroad. Fun to drive on country and mountain roads especially. The price is a real issue, if Audi goes much higher in future, they will price owners out of the A4 tier.
@ahmedmahdi1908
@ahmedmahdi1908 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing review thank you Thomas.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Ahmed Mahdi 🙏🙏
@stephenpel4286
@stephenpel4286 4 жыл бұрын
Nice comprehensive assessment
@masinicuandrei5985
@masinicuandrei5985 7 жыл бұрын
I like that you are being transparent with the review and telling what is wrong with the car, the leather will do the same on more models and brands, it`s not a problem specific to Audi, and it`s usually on faux leather. On new ML it looked like that new from the factory, lol :))
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Car Review 360 thanks! Audi hardly offers leatherette, but Mercedes does a lot and is way better in that respect!
@kwadaluke3870
@kwadaluke3870 7 жыл бұрын
really enjoy the reviews. keep up the good work:)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
cheers man, keep recommending us!
@accordionmad
@accordionmad 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Thomas. Have you any review of the Audi A4 1.4TFSI automatic
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
check out more A4 reviews here: kzbin.info?search_query=autogefuehl+audi+a4
@ayshemustafa8216
@ayshemustafa8216 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend TDI 2.0 over TFSI 2.0 engine b9 2018? (Non-quattro) Thanks!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
That totally depends on your driving profile, only long distance for tdi, if you don’t drive long mileage or also a lot in the city, then take the tsi
@ayshemustafa8216
@ayshemustafa8216 3 жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl Thanks! I have decide on the TFSI 2.0 but I still want it to be quattro but non-allroad since I don't like the look of the allroad. It's not easy to find one non-allroad but quattro tfsi here in Sweden.
@davidjmcintyre5981
@davidjmcintyre5981 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, did you contact Audi about the breaking problem??
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they did not reply anything real to that. Just that it wasnt know - which isnt true, when you check forums worldwide...
@tipazas
@tipazas 7 жыл бұрын
I think tending to one side under braking can be due to uneven grip (but in this case I think you should notice abs on the pedal ) or uneven braking force if somehow one brake disc was very wet.
@MrViyasan
@MrViyasan 3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts about buying this car used? Anything to watch out for? I'd prefer this to a generic SUV. Great review. So methodical
@alastairdand
@alastairdand 7 жыл бұрын
Another fine review. If you want a top spec, it's almost double the entry-level price. Also, I would advise Audi to work on the indicator sound...
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! Yeah it gets expensive easily
@vascojardim6703
@vascojardim6703 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, greetings from Portugal! Great review, as always. You are the best car reviewer anywhere! Always see your reviews before buying my cars. Which brings me to the next point: how would you compare the Audi to the Mercedes GLC? I am currently torn between both. Maybe a comparison is in order 😉?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
First of all thank you a lot! Recently AJ reviewed the GLC 63 AMG, did you watch his video yet? If not, here is a link --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/enXKhY2jhalopKM
@vascojardim6703
@vascojardim6703 7 жыл бұрын
Autogefühl thanks! I have seen that one. I am a subscriber and get notifications every time a new video is out 😊. Would like to compare the performance of both cars on and off road. I believe both appeal to the same type of buyer, the GLC perhaps with a bit more off-road abilities. E Audi perhaps a bit more interior space and ride ability...?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
You mean the Audi Q5 ? They surely both come close and are both very good cars. Mercedes convinces me more with their animal skin alternatives
@hjemmeis
@hjemmeis 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing review, amazing car! I would pick white collar then it would be perfect. Good job Thomas!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Kasper Lange thanks m8!
@audi_80club98
@audi_80club98 7 жыл бұрын
The lord of the rings! :)
@blarkdexture8899
@blarkdexture8899 7 жыл бұрын
Audi 80 B4 Tutorials Four zeros in the front and one behind the steeringwheel
@23chicco
@23chicco 7 жыл бұрын
hey Thomas, oneslty speaking, what dou you think about the new awd ultra of Audi??did you tried it?how it works?is it comparable to the torsen ?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thats normal haldex clutch afaik ?
@23chicco
@23chicco 7 жыл бұрын
from what has been declared by audi this is not haldex but a 100% new system devoloped by audi.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
afaik it is just the haldex for MLB platform (big) cars Of course they marketing bla bla everything :)
@23chicco
@23chicco 7 жыл бұрын
of course but they can not declare that they tried the haldex and they decided that it was not the right solution and at the end they go for haldex .)))it would be comic, anyway i will try this system in marz.thank you thomas.gruss aus italien und allesgute
@osterlouis6336
@osterlouis6336 6 жыл бұрын
hello Thomas,I have A4 allroad design luxe, and the brake problem you have experienced,i had exactly the same problem on very wet autobahn (very dangerous)... did you find something?sorry for my english i am french..by the way i watch all you reviews that i find one of the best on youtube.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! They told me they could not reproduce it. But it is real i m sure
@osterlouis6336
@osterlouis6336 6 жыл бұрын
I am sure too, it happened to me on very rainy conditions 10-20kms without braking, lane assist off ,than when I pressed the pedal nearly nothing happened and the car was going left... than it became normal again, i am now affraid to drive on very wet conditions otherwise in dry conditions the brake are perfect...
@osterlouis6336
@osterlouis6336 6 жыл бұрын
it happened to me twice
@brendanhobbart
@brendanhobbart 6 жыл бұрын
@@osterlouis6336 This is the biggest thing that is keeping me away from this car. I'm starting to hunt for a replacement for my X5 and the allroad would be high on my list if I could trust it to keep us safe. I drive in heavy rain quite often so this brake issue is a big concern. It has been a while since the review and the comments above. Anyone know if it has been resolved?
@roverroko306
@roverroko306 4 жыл бұрын
Htc Thomas, you know I just have to share Info on this fact with you. There's so many, sorry to say Idiots now day's making and streaming reviews on KZbin. People who don't know the first thing about a vehicle or anything else they are filming reviews about. Just so irritating and hard to watch sometimes. On the other hand it's exceptional when a person who really knows what they are doing makes reviews. In this case just like you. For example in like 100 reviews about the A4 B9 I have seen so far. The 3.0 tdi 272hp quattro permanent is the one I am interested in and will probably buy 3 years old this summer. Not one reviewer mentioned the crucial difference in the 3.0 tdi 272hp quattro, transmission and gearbox system's when compared to all the rest. And in my mind, I am a huge motorhead and vehicles enthusiast ever since I can remember. Anyway, to me this is a very important and crucial peace of information about this Audi, or A4 Saloon S-line, with this same power output as I will probably buy it. Just mega, and not one self proclaimed Automotive journalist has mentioned this. So thanks Thomas, really keep up the good work. Nice jacket BTW ☻☻😉
@fakamada
@fakamada 7 жыл бұрын
Will there be 2.0 240 HP TDI version?
@Dado313
@Dado313 7 жыл бұрын
Super review Thomas, but where is driving offroad?I thing this car is better to drive offroad.Next time maybe???!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Dado Bektas we dont have offroad areas
@Dado313
@Dado313 7 жыл бұрын
Autogefühl please come in Montenegro we have the best terains in Europe.
@KL_Stereo
@KL_Stereo 7 жыл бұрын
The perfect car, what more could you need
@Colin623
@Colin623 7 жыл бұрын
More legroom for the rear seat passengers ! Tomas said it felt "Cramped" also the brakes are dodgy, even" dangerous" to quote Thomas !! so maybe not so perfect !!
@sirevag
@sirevag 4 жыл бұрын
About consumption, I have the 218hp 2017 and it is super efficient and I have seen down to 4.8L / 100km Norway highway. I guess this is due to the main front wheel setup.
@kornofulgur
@kornofulgur 7 жыл бұрын
Exellent in-depht review, this is the video I was looking for so thank you very much! (A detail if I may, the indoor camera views are problematic)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, enjoy :)
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 7 жыл бұрын
This just seems like a very sensible alternative to all of these luxury CUVs & SUVs. A comparable Jag F pace, Porsche Macan are a lot more money. I suppose the Q5 is comparable but this is much cooler imo. What was the exact of the colour Thomas? I'm not sure I'm sold on those 18" wheels, I can't believe I'm saying it but they look kind of small on this car. Engines in NA are even more limited....2L petrol...end of list. Again great review!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+kevin n thx! Didnt find out about the colour yet
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 7 жыл бұрын
I'm curious Thomas, would you buy the Allroad over a F pace, Macan or V90?
@ryanlittleton5615
@ryanlittleton5615 6 жыл бұрын
I wish the TDI engines would come back to the US.
@MiniEggs1999
@MiniEggs1999 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review would really like to see an A6 v merc all terrain full test
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Macht bitte mal lautstärketests in dBA bei 80-100-130-160. ein günstiges gerät würde da als richtwert da schon reichen um einen vergleich zwischen den autos zu haben
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
Haben wir schon mal probiert. Du bekommst keine guten Ergebnisse, weil Zeit, Wetter, Fahrbahnbeschaffenheit und Reifen jeweils gleich sein müssten, um wirklich aussagekräftig zu sein
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Danke für die Rückmeldung. auch wenn nicht allzu genau, klar mit einem auto im regen und mit dem anderen nicht ist nicht aussagekräftig. Ein Test auf der selben straße bei ähnlichen bedingungen usw... wäre schon interessant mMn. Bei den Reifen kann man es sich denken das da ein unterschied sein wird wenn man leisere oder lautere montiert. Aber wer sich das Auto kauft bekommt es so wie ihr es bekommt da ist es dann auch mit einer ähnlichen bereifung.... Wenn viel wind am testtag ist kann man das ja logischerweise auslassen ;).
@Digi20
@Digi20 7 жыл бұрын
Würde ich auch sehr begrüßen, aber das macht wahrscheinlich nur unter kontrollierten Bedingungen Sinn. Reifen, Fahrbahnbelag und auch Temperatur und natürlich auch Windrichtung und Stärke haben einen sehr großen Einfluss. Im Extremfall ist ein Polo dann leiser als ein A6.
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Stimmt. Aber wenn die bedingungen noch im rahmen sind sprich, wenig wind, kein regen, kein wasser auf der straße...
@withstyle7816
@withstyle7816 7 жыл бұрын
Ich hätte einen vorschlag und zwar. Macht einfach lautstärketests im Stand. Bei Leerlauf, 2000, 3000, 4000 U/min beim diesel und beim bein ziner halt die 5000 u/min eventl noch dazunehmen. da hat man die lautstärke zumindest für die drehzahlen falls man relativ flott bis 100 beschleunigt wo die windlaustärke noch keine bzw fast keine rolle spielt. Somit kann man ganz gut hören wie gut der motor vom innenraum abgedämmt ist.
@ministryofsmltt
@ministryofsmltt 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Thomas! I'm relieved too as I just ordered the V6, upgrading from the B8 (2.0 TDI). Any chance of some more comments on acceleration in the V6 diesel compared with the 2.0 TDI? E.g. real-life overtaking on b-roads? By the way I never experienced any braking problems with my A4 Allroad :-)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+ministryofsmltt thanks! Its super powerful :)
@ministryofsmltt
@ministryofsmltt 6 жыл бұрын
Autogefühl Yes it is! Acceleration in sport mode is bonkers, love this car :-)
@valerons
@valerons 7 жыл бұрын
A4 still looks the best from all new design line. Thanks for another great review
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Valeron Ъ 👌
@Geralt0Rivia
@Geralt0Rivia 7 жыл бұрын
this version is far more beatiful than the orignal A4, like it
@vanged2468
@vanged2468 6 жыл бұрын
The review of the Allroad against the VW Passat Alltrack and Subaru Outback on Car Review, Read Newspaper TV on KZbin make the Passat the winner. That review is where Autogeful should be headed with direct comparisons, like Auto Bild do. The Passat beat the A4 and BMW 3 series on their review too for the 240bhp biturbo.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we do not have the means or the budget to host that many cars at the very same time
@NotCommanderShepard
@NotCommanderShepard 7 жыл бұрын
I've been to a big VW dealership yesterday and checked everything from Seat to Porsche's. Porsche is the only VW Group brand that seems to have distanced themselves from the VW design by adding another layer of quality in their interiors. Even the Audi's have that plastic-y new VW smell, just as the Seats, Skodas and VWs. I don't know what but there is something that gives off a "this car isn't actually that quality" vibe in them. There are plastic parts in places that you can tell VW was trying to save 5 cents on, like the little hard plastic strip between the steering wheel and the dials. Also, all their cars have the exact same steering wheel except the Beetle. I'm quite disappointed with VW and even Audi to be honest. The A6 (with the last gen interior) was the only car that felt original.
@slobodanss
@slobodanss 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, great review and a great channel, looking forward to your future reviews. I am thinking about buying 2.0 Tfsi with ultra Quattro technology. Can you say something about that engine and Quattro ultra compared to this model?? Would you recommend choosing the diesel 3.0 instead?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Thats fwd with haldex
@tomasz.szlachetka
@tomasz.szlachetka 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas! Great review, as ALWAYS :) I want to ask you about something, is there any chance for the review of the new subaru xv?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
First of all thank you very much. At the moment we don't have specific plans for it
@tomasz.szlachetka
@tomasz.szlachetka 7 жыл бұрын
Ok, I understand ;) Thanks for the answer :)
@peterosullivan8200
@peterosullivan8200 7 жыл бұрын
good review as usual, obviously pay for the brand privilege, VW and Skoda as capable?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! you can compare the Passat Alltack: kzbin.info/www/bejne/enbLpmqJms-ZqNk
@thomasw.6066
@thomasw.6066 7 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für das sehr gelungene Review! Wie findest du den Wagen im Vergleich zur Mercedes E Klasse? (Mir ist bewusst dass das unterschiedliche Fahrzeugklassen sind, aber da der „alte” A6 kurz vor der neuen Modellpremiere steht und der A4 allroad quattro durchaus Potential hat mit der oberen Mittelklasse verglichen zu werden, interessiert mich hier deine Einschätzung sehr)
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Thomas W. besten dank! Hast du dir den fahrpart komplett angehört? Ich gehe dabei auch auf den aspekt vs größere autos ein LG
@igrvks
@igrvks 7 жыл бұрын
If possible please do a full review on Range Rover Velar. It has amazing design and it's possible to have with full fabric interior, so Thomas approved :D
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+igrvks yes we will!!
@caoYB
@caoYB 7 жыл бұрын
What is the color? manhattan grey?
@caoYB
@caoYB 7 жыл бұрын
ok bright black...........
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
hm, that could indeed be manhattan grey
@caoYB
@caoYB 7 жыл бұрын
I'm now thinking about buying the A4 Allroad 2.0(petrol) or the Q5, which one do you recommend ? In China, we have the A4L(a longer A4) and the new Q5 will be sold as Q5L later this year, the A4 Allroad is like 100,000 RMB expensive than the Chinese made top A4L model(with EA888 Gen 3 and quattro), and I'm guessing the Q5L will be the same price as the A4 Allroad. I love the wagon/avant style, but the Q5L seems better for carrying people and stuff.
@abage4710
@abage4710 7 жыл бұрын
Haven’t experienced the pull when braking in the rain in my Audi A4
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
+Abage Goel thx 4 the feedback!
@MiniEggs1999
@MiniEggs1999 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you can review the Merc All Terrain E350 and A6 All Road one day
@vpatsikas
@vpatsikas 7 жыл бұрын
Lovely car but it looks a bit boring.Great review Thomas!!What about head2head comparison of two vehicles in one video?That would be very nice as well.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
thanks, join us for more! Comparison tests are of course harder to plan and conduct and we literally also have a parking problem :)
@antoha5552
@antoha5552 7 жыл бұрын
nice car
@chilled99
@chilled99 7 жыл бұрын
something about the placement of the rear light clusters is putting me off Maybe they should be a few cm higher
@checker8401
@checker8401 7 жыл бұрын
Testet doch mal den neuen renault alaskan
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
Mercedes X-Klasse: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2TPqpSqp9merq8 Nissan Navara: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKjYc6ihoL93Z8k Das ist er quasi ;-)
@blarkdexture8899
@blarkdexture8899 7 жыл бұрын
What about emissions?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 жыл бұрын
this one has a SCR catalyst
@mlee6136
@mlee6136 5 жыл бұрын
That rear legroom is a showstopper...
@sjmedia_official
@sjmedia_official 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do the new Subaru XV?
@vanged2468
@vanged2468 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the VW Passat Alltrack, as it's much more spacious inside, and has a really nice cabin. It's a lot cheaper, and looks great with the upgraded 19 inch wheels. The latest generation Audi A4 is too small inside, and too similar to the last one... and the A6!!!!
@Cef3axon1
@Cef3axon1 7 жыл бұрын
Van Ged Man, be honest. You bought passat because it was cheaper. Do not compare Passat and A4 Allroad.. totally different leauges.
@izoyt
@izoyt 7 жыл бұрын
audi and vw models are not really that great for comparing, if oyu ask me, audi a4 is more in golf area by size (yes, i know, a3 share same modular chasis an all that), a6 against passat (again, by size). not 100%, but it is like that. but it is true audis starts with a4 model (different engine layout etc).
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