Audi or BMW? All-new Audi A5 vs BMW 4-Series Gran Coupé comparison REVIEW

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@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
►Shop for merchandise: autogefuehl.shop/ ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Also subscribe to our KZbin shorts channel: www.youtube.com/@thomasautogefuhl?sub_confirmation=1 ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl ►Sustainability in the automotive industry documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaMsi=bCdeJZORRHNcVmV2 This is our in-depth comparison review all-new Audi A5 vs BMW 4-Series Gran Coupé. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience. 00:00 Audi A5 vs BMW 4 Series 02:24 Length and wheels 03:34 Rear and lights 06:14 Suspension 06:44 Engines and AWD systems 08:55 Key fob and door comparison 09:17 BMW 4 Series interior cockpit 14:57 BMW 4 Series Gran Coupé rear seating 17:14 Audi A5 rear seating 18:50 Audi A5 interior cockpit 26:23 hardman kardon vs bang & olufsen 27:06 Trunk / boot comparison 29:40 Acceleration Autobahn BMW 430i 35:05 Driving fun BMW 40:23 Acceleration Autobahn Audi A5 2.0 47:00 Driving fun Audi 51:59 Mpg, price and decision #audi #bmw
@tyrechief_BE
@tyrechief_BE 7 күн бұрын
Customer feedback for Audi: I don’t need a third screen, I hate high gloss plastic, physical buttons are so much better and safer. Spend the money on interior quality materials like in the previous Audi models, not on fancy stuff. Good job on the exterior design, I love it!
@nickbien
@nickbien 7 күн бұрын
it's wild that people have been complaining about piano black since the a6 came out 7 years ago in 2018 And now a whole bunch of new Audi's are coming with the exact same problem, but even worse than before (before it was just mostly on the dashboard, now its the dashboard + center console)
@Zoranurai13
@Zoranurai13 7 күн бұрын
I have quite a lot of gloss black on my arteon, and outside of the center console it doesn’t bother me too much. Touch points however are a no go.
@robertkancijanic3064
@robertkancijanic3064 6 күн бұрын
@@nickbien cheap to produce
@beewh001
@beewh001 6 күн бұрын
@@nickbien Do you know why? That's because those dumb people are still buying it. And then in a year time they will release a facelift that's not really a facelift with no piano black
@1MTEK
@1MTEK 6 күн бұрын
@@beewh001 Slightly disagree-- they should have ditched it by now. The criticism of piano black plastics goes pretty far back. Despite automotive design/manufacturing lifecycle being long, Audi has had plenty of time to listen to critics and make changes-- especially to such a minor cosmetic part. To use it now with new products was an explicit decision. In my opinion, they're using it as a cheap marketing trick-- piano black looks great in ad photos and in the showroom. It's to sucker lease buyers-- not people who have to live with it long-term.
@pennehoesje
@pennehoesje 7 күн бұрын
The A5 looks so classy on the outside but the piano black plastic and capacitive buttons really puts a damper on it for me..
@basedpatriotLT
@basedpatriotLT 6 күн бұрын
you can have no piano black with the most basics interior option (could be leather, but only black)
@oneonone8855
@oneonone8855 6 күн бұрын
Hatchback capasitive BS
@paulozavala3232
@paulozavala3232 7 күн бұрын
Here is my feedback! Im a Audi driver so just Audi feedback. 1. I want to have back real buttons, specifically A/C and other buttons I need constant. I need a stress free environment and to ”fight” to make basic adjustments will give more stress! 2. Please Audi get rid of the high gloss finish! Its bad! Just bad! 3. I want at least the option to opt for leather interior/alcantara. 4. The new steering wheel is ugly! I prefer the older design with rounded center section of the steering wheel!
@PejmanTehrani
@PejmanTehrani 7 күн бұрын
I agree with all your points, and can I add another point? :) The big display is just too much and ugly. The old A5 solution for cluster display (traditional integrated in IP) and infotaintment was much better.
@evol3852
@evol3852 7 күн бұрын
@@PejmanTehrani Audi TT was peak interior design.
@goransamarzija3423
@goransamarzija3423 7 күн бұрын
No.3 - but you can, I have that combo. Leather/alcantara(called dynamica in Audi)…
@paulozavala3232
@paulozavala3232 6 күн бұрын
@ I think another good interieur where Audi nail it is the A1 GBA!
@juanluisbarconrojas8950
@juanluisbarconrojas8950 6 күн бұрын
Hola,camarada!!! En casa tenemos audi y bmw. Me di cuenta de lo bueno que era mi bmw,cuando llego el audi a nuestro garaje. Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con tus apreciaciones. Solo pediría una cosa: Que vuelvan los diseños exteriores e interiores de bmw,para mi,han dado un paso atras. Un saludo.🤝🐳
@aydarks
@aydarks 7 күн бұрын
Our family used to own Audis for more than 10 years (from q5 2009 to q8). However, I am very upset to see the interiors of new Audi models (like A5 or Q5). I think Audi completely lost their identity (in terms of interiors), as they abandoned a lot of their industry leading features - thanks for mentioning this as well Thomas! Right now their interior is not far from other Chinese manufactures with their shiny bright screen only and glossy interiors. I hope they will reconsider their strategy and make their interiors more cosy and stop using cheaper materials in the future generations. We are not idiots and we can notice when manufacturers trying to minimise costs. Good video as usual! P.S. Audi, please stop using such a weird fabric material (or learn from Volvo how to implement it correctly).
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
thanks for the feedback!
@Enko063
@Enko063 5 күн бұрын
Hahah Volvo? 😂😂
@KeliK1
@KeliK1 7 күн бұрын
The older BMW is better in many ways. That Audi looks fancy but feels cheap, especially the interior. Too much fakery, too much high gloss, and who puts fabric everywhere like that? It's gonna get filthy real fast.
@christianbryant5617
@christianbryant5617 Күн бұрын
Volvo and BMW have especially been innovating their interiors to include more fabric, as it’s becoming more and more tasteful as car trends evolve.
@davetroy5706
@davetroy5706 7 күн бұрын
the Audi interior is a disaster; I don't understand why they don't recognize that
@SpectralBloo
@SpectralBloo 6 күн бұрын
They actually do. Auditography mentioned that the executives plan major interior refreshes when they get facelifted. Sad that this is where Audi is at. Compare the interior of the new Macan to the Q6 and it tells you where Audi sits in VAGs hierarchy.
@HeliumFreak
@HeliumFreak 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely loathe the Audi stearing wheel buttons. Give me real buttons for christs sake, its not like the car already costs a fortune
@dawidzias
@dawidzias 7 күн бұрын
they are real buttons... Just all in one, this is not touch button
@jpntexas5192
@jpntexas5192 7 күн бұрын
Thomas, I took delivery of a brand new 430 GC XI last November and I've put 6,000 mostly highway miles on it. Flat out best car I've ever owned. Completely agree with your review in all areas. I have averaged 37 MPG on the highway, and you are exactly right, the drive train is amazing, and the best feature of this car. Always look forward to your reviews Thomas, thanks.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
cool, thanks for the feedback and enjoy the ride!
@teovm
@teovm 6 күн бұрын
Customer feedback for both: put back the old buttons for the climate control unit with the heating/cooled seats. Using your climate with choice commands is not good when other passengers are in the car, or when you are using your hands free. It is unnecessary and money spent on something that is trying to fix something that worked and you broke it. Put some felt in the door bins. Make the infotainment screen neutral between the driver and passage, so that both can operated. Stop increasing wheel sizes - it's just eating space on the inside, raising road noise and suspension harshness, raising tire prices, looks stupid when the discs are smaller than the wheel cavity. Put elongated visors for side sun protection, and a small front visor when the big one is on the side. Make your cars premium again. I want a premium car, with luxury stuff, with small touches here and there, small things that make big difference. Something that looks it's been thought. Not tech, not screens, no touch buttons, not funny stuff like farting seats, this is not a toy, not a Tesla. It's a premuim car. For Audi: no gloss black. Put real buttons, not those joke piano black haptic feedback one push trash. No passenger needs a second screen, they all have smartphones. Put a magnetic holder instead. Stop squishing the sneering wheel - this is not a race car, that you do not let go of the wheel to go lock to lock. The moment you do that and you get confused which side is up, or down. You have to look it, not by feel - just like the climate control buttons (screens). For the BMW: make it more lighter inside, more brightness on the speedo.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
Agree
@Drew-vz8fo
@Drew-vz8fo 7 күн бұрын
almost feels like the old a5 is a better car. much cleaner design
@ggmgoodgamingmichael7706
@ggmgoodgamingmichael7706 34 минут бұрын
B8.5 FTW 😃
@richardbrown578
@richardbrown578 7 күн бұрын
I subscribed and have been watching for some time now. I must say Thomas has the most detailed knowledge and professional discourse of all the blogs of this kind. Thanks for another great comparison.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏 Feel free to share our videos and recommend our channel 😎
@PejmanTehrani
@PejmanTehrani 7 күн бұрын
Hello Thomas. First of all, thank you soooooo much for another great comparison video. I love the way you compare two cars in depth for the exterior design, interior, functionalities, space, driving, engine, transmission, suspension, steering, price etc. It's so well-detailed and you really cover all the intresting points. I always appreciate your honesty too. There are so many car review channels on youtube, but absolutely NO ONE does it as good as you do! Please give a feedback to your Audi contacts after reading all comments, becasue I know that they will listen to you :) EVERYONE love the exterior design, but hate the interior. Unfortunetly the cheap and ugly interior of Audi will affect the sale numbers negatively. They MUST update the interior design in the next facelift, and as soon as possible!!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
thanks m8 will do !
@alexc9584
@alexc9584 7 күн бұрын
This shows how far Audi have fallen; the interior looks straight out of a Golf..such an average quality, no comparison to the interiors of old. Audi also need to ditch this drive for the silver vents in all their front ends, it's ruining the aesthetic. Never though i'd say that the beaver toothed front end of the BMW looks better. Clearly the bean counters are now in full control at Audi, ruining a once prestige brand. They’ve spent too much time and money of the stupid matrix headlight animations. Time to get back to basics for Audi, if it's not too late to do that.
@asfdaigjusadjfepijfadf
@asfdaigjusadjfepijfadf 7 күн бұрын
The b9.5 a4/a5 actually had more piano black than this new generation, it was all over the dash and centre console if you specced it. In the new one they at least have some fabric on the dash and some nice aluminum inserts and the doors curve nicely into the dash unlike the old gen where the door is just flat against the side of the dash. Aside from the steering wheel I really don’t see where specifically you see average or worse than before quality. I own a 2018 a4 and this new car looks like the same quality.
@sergiosilva7411
@sergiosilva7411 6 күн бұрын
You're wrong... the materials inside a Golf feel plusher than in the A5, go check it! It's the same thing with the A3, it looks cool inside design wise, but it looks cheap compared to the Golf!
@kokibr91
@kokibr91 6 күн бұрын
Interior is really poor, I agree, especially in person. Exterior is great though, new Audis are smoking everything else. In person looks even better. Pity they are so poor inside, something they did great in the past.
@cricho15
@cricho15 5 күн бұрын
@@sergiosilva7411 VW interiors have looked like cheap cabs since 2020. The screens are the worst I've seen since the French ergonomics massacres in the 90s.
@migfpv1790
@migfpv1790 6 күн бұрын
Hi, i totaly agree with you in regards to the Audi AC controls, the old ones were way better. Also as far as i see, Audi also went from having the best virtual cockpit, to having the worse. Is there realy no way to change the view, to get a normal or bigger Spedometor, and revcounter on the new screen??? From the looks of it, 2/3 of the huge screen just seams wasted.
@nkhan4
@nkhan4 7 күн бұрын
at 36:30 almost gave me a heart attack with the truck in the camera shot almost looking like its coming towards you till I realized its a ramp. As always, amazing review!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
heh yeah noticed that too
@danthomas2658
@danthomas2658 6 күн бұрын
I don't understand why everyone makes such a big deal out of climate controls being integrated into infotainment. With auto climate it should be set and forget. As a new BMW owner I do agree I would prefer to have seat heating controls as a physical button.
@cricho15
@cricho15 5 күн бұрын
I live in Switzerland. The weather is different behind every tunnel. Apart from that, that's just one part. Things that you have to operate regularly without looking should have haptic feedback. Voice control usually works great, but on the one hand it increases the operating time tenfold and you always have to interrupt your phone call, your favorite music or the peace and quiet that these vehicles should offer. This is a massive downgrade that simply doesn't feel like premium. With Tesla, it was a clever stopgap solution. The Germans thought it was a feature.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 5 күн бұрын
These opinions are written by people in old ruined cars who do not have these screens and convince themselves that what they have is better.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 5 күн бұрын
​@@cricho15 I like 22 degrees Celsius in the car and that's what I set it to. The automatic air conditioning does the rest for me.
@senseofthecommonman
@senseofthecommonman 5 күн бұрын
@@TheEryk03just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn’t make them wrong.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 5 күн бұрын
@@senseofthecommonman They are wrong. At most we both are.
@SpectralBloo
@SpectralBloo 6 күн бұрын
For me, with Audis budget they should be getting their designs perfect. Think of the early B8 days, they had world famous designers work on the A5. Where is that intent? If brands like Maserati can excel on design and interior quality, Audi should not be making these errors and then saying they will just correct them for the B10.5s. That shows their only focus are the lease customers who are going to ditch these B10s in a couple years.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
Data & facts: Audi A5 sedan / sportback vs BMW 4 Series Gran Coupé Audi A5: magnet grey LED - Full LED - Matrix LED 4,83 m 190“ length (5 cm or 2“ longer than 4 Series GC, 4 cm longer wheelbase 17“-20“ wheels (S5 19“-20“) base suspension, fixed -20 mm sport suspension (S-line and S5 standard) or optional -20 mm adaptive S suspension 12“ instruments 14,5“ infotainment Android Automotive 11“ passenger display optional optional HUD Electrochrome panoramic roof optional Seats fabric or Optional leatherette/animal Or dinamica/animal for sport seat Forms: normal seat or sport seat or sport seat plus trunk / boot 445 l - 1.300 l MHEV versions 420 l - 1.270 l 2,0 4-cyl petrol and diesel, 3,0 6-cylinder petrol, PHEVs 2.0 TFSI 150 hp (9,8 s) FWD or 204 hp FWD/AWD (7,8 s / 7,6 s) TDI and S5 MHEV 1,7 kWh gross LFP battery, recuperation up to 25 kW 2.0 TFSI PHEV 22 kWh 295/360 hp 2.0 TDI 204 hp FWD/AWD (7,7 s / 6,9 s) 3.0 V6 TFSI 367 hp AWD S5 4,5 s 0-100 km/h, sports differential rear All AWD = Quattro ultra, 100/0 front/rear when driving steady and little acceleration, during hard acceleration up to 30/70 front/rear distribution Engines Northern American market (sedan only) No MHEV A5 2.0 TFSI 268 hp 400 Nm quattro ultra Audi S5 3.0 TFSI 362 hp 550 Nm oldschool quattro 40:60 BMW 4 Series GC: Optional Adaptive Matrix, then also new laser rear lamps 4,78 m 188“ length 18-20“ wheels Base suspension, fixed M Sport suspension or Adaptive M suspension Animal free interior standard with Sensatec steering and seats Steering wheel now with flat bottom new Sensatec dashboard new curved display and illuminated vents Seats: Perforated Sensatec in Black, Beige (Beige not in EU), Red, Brown (Cognac), optional animal skin Europe: Performtex fabric/microfibre mix available 470 l trunk / boot 2,0 l 4-cyl and 3,0 6-cyl petrol and diesel as well as BMW i4 Pricing Audi A5 starts 48.000 USD, high spec 61.000 USD EU 45.000 Euro, high spec 80.000 Euro Test vehicle 2.0 TSI S-line 204 hp AWD 7,6 s, adaptive s-sports suspension: 77.500 Euro Test consumption 8,5 l / 100 km 27 mpg US 33 mpg UK 4 Series Gran Coupé starts 49.000 USD, high spec 60.000 USD EU starts 53.000 EUR, high spec 70.000 EUR Test vehicle 430i xDrive: 245 hp 6,1 s (255 hp 5,7 s mph figure), adaptive M suspension: 85.000 Euro (grey matt paint is 5 k however) Test consumption 6,5 l / - 7 l / 100 km 36 mpg US 38 mpg UK Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
@szotakandrei
@szotakandrei 7 күн бұрын
How is high SPEC 70k, but then the model shown is 85 ? Also, why the huge $ vs € discrepancy in price ?
@cricho15
@cricho15 5 күн бұрын
What the former German premium manufacturers deliver can be compared to the most delicious cup of ice cream that a bird shits on just before you want to eat it. The great workmanship and outstanding driving characteristics are completely devalued by these lousy touch systems. What remains is an uncomfortable, unsafe and unsporty driving experience. This means that the prices are simply 30-40% too high compared to the performance. And even then, I wouldn't want the daily frustration.
@dartharagon9129
@dartharagon9129 Күн бұрын
You can very much complain about looks or interior, but NO german car is unsafe, every audi or bmw is very sporty to drive and mercedes is the master of comfort. i don't get what you want to say there.
@tipp55
@tipp55 7 күн бұрын
Audi looks very nice and elegant from the outside. A real shame about the cheap-looking interior with the huge ugly screen dominating the dash, and the cloth seats??? Skoda Superb has a better interior imho.
@juliusmabanga3849
@juliusmabanga3849 5 күн бұрын
A5 looks super smart but I don't like the new virtual cockpit. The old one looked nicer and was more customizable
@roderickroderick7216
@roderickroderick7216 3 күн бұрын
Audi B9/B9.5 HVAC controls will go down in history as the best man has ever created. Why you would get rid of perfection is beyond me...
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 күн бұрын
☝️
@jeromenoel4214
@jeromenoel4214 6 күн бұрын
The VW Group's DSG/S-Tronic gearboxes are dual-clutch gearboxes. They are very pleasant to use but there is a lot of bad customer feedback on their reliability. The ZF automatic gearboxes found at BMW are renowned for their driving pleasure and reliability. What about this new Audi A5 and its automatic gearbox? Thank you.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
I did mention that in the engine part, quattro ultra is dual clutch. The only thing I could imagine is that the S5 in the US still gets the converter since it also gets classic quattro
@krowest
@krowest 7 күн бұрын
So it looks like a 5 year old BMW 4 series beats a brand new Audi A5 in almost everything. From build quality, to buttons, to driving. Quite sad. Imagine how things will look like when BMW drops the new 4 series 😮😮
@CharlesBojangles
@CharlesBojangles 7 күн бұрын
Hopefully it won’t have an interior that’s as terrible as the new X3…
@krowest
@krowest 7 күн бұрын
@ good point!
@UniqueNee
@UniqueNee 6 күн бұрын
When are the new 4 series launching?
@CharlesBojangles
@CharlesBojangles 6 күн бұрын
@@UniqueNee not sure. Rumors have speculated that the 4 and 8 series may merge and become the 6 series in the near future.
@timjones8837
@timjones8837 3 күн бұрын
Brilliant, detailed presentation...loads of detail...
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 3 күн бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏 Feel free to share our videos and recommend our channel 😎
@user-Markk81
@user-Markk81 6 күн бұрын
Never thought Audi interior will feel so cheap. An absolute disaster.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 5 күн бұрын
no
@Enko063
@Enko063 5 күн бұрын
Why you hate such incredible vehicle? Are you mental?
@lukacindric6532
@lukacindric6532 6 күн бұрын
I absolutely hate high gloss black trims, capacitive bs buttons and huge infotainment screens without physical controls...I really don't understand who likes that and why are they forcing this design. Cheeping out on materials while prices are going steeply up is one more disappointing trend. In this comparison, I am more fan of BMW, even though I wish they would go step back toward their good old design origins. Keep the good work Thomas!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
Thanks m8!
@Lonor77
@Lonor77 6 күн бұрын
Those clumsy designed screens in the audi are killing the interior, especially that extra passenger's screen is so out of place imo
@JulienHoule-t1o
@JulienHoule-t1o 6 күн бұрын
The best review of these two cars. You do an outstanding job. Vielen Dank.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏 Feel free to share our videos and recommend our channel 😎
@dannyboycar0777
@dannyboycar0777 7 күн бұрын
Hey Audi, you love so much BS capacitive buttons, how about making gas and brake pedals also capacitive and only 1 single capacitive big button for both accelerating and braking :) ? That would be so "cost-cutty" :) I'm sure all clients would love that !
@sadtul6182
@sadtul6182 2 күн бұрын
Sssssshhhh, don't give them idea's man
@MrFabiobilla
@MrFabiobilla 7 күн бұрын
When are the Q5/SQ5 test coming?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
begin of March! Not possible earlier sadly
@MrFabiobilla
@MrFabiobilla 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! I can’t wait for the best review of them by @autogefuehl
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@rasmuskarlsson725
@rasmuskarlsson725 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for a great review! When I buy a new car I'm checking the same details with knobs, screens, materials, fuel consumption and so on.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 5 күн бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏 Feel free to share our videos and recommend our channel 😎
@AdorntheKid
@AdorntheKid 7 күн бұрын
In terms of the front ends The Audi looks better. No question
@chefchaudard3580
@chefchaudard3580 7 күн бұрын
I personally prefer the BMW. It may be a little bit « too much », but the Audi looks bland, nothing premium. A rebadged VW.
@Johnny91832
@Johnny91832 7 күн бұрын
​@@chefchaudard3580 you really don't know what ur talking about when you call an audi "rebadged VW". They both share technologies and a lot of parts, but driving dynamics are a whole different story.
@chefchaudard3580
@chefchaudard3580 7 күн бұрын
@Johnny91832 i was talking of the look. Both cars are very good premium cars, no question about that. But the Audi looks like its Skoda or VW siblings, nothing special. The BMW has a unique look, maybe too aggressive or weird for some, but definitely more eccentric and more suited to a premium cars which must look different.
@Explosivo93
@Explosivo93 7 күн бұрын
@@chefchaudard3580 which VW is the equivalent to the A5 then
@adrianhrusca4067
@adrianhrusca4067 7 күн бұрын
People who say Audi is rebadged vw have no clue about the basic mecanics in this cars. MLB plaftform vs MQB. multiple arms sophisticated suspension vs mcphaerson (vw an 3/4 series). If you comlare a5 with 4 series from 2016-2018, there is a huge difference in ergonomy and road handling in favour of Audi. Mbr has poor quslity interiord, and weak reliablility
@mrees5170
@mrees5170 7 күн бұрын
Fantastic comparison! I do not like the screens in either vehicle. To me, it’s more of a distraction to operate than just having classy knobs. Speaking of which, I have a ‘22 SQ5 so I completely agree with the climate controls. They are some of the best. It’s a shame to change so dramatically. I also don’t like the new Audi gear selectors. Give me a shifter!!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
thanks!
@alexhappy2717
@alexhappy2717 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video 👍 well done !
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
cheers !
@Liverpool1ne
@Liverpool1ne 6 күн бұрын
The joy opening the bonnets brings you 😁
@limpunsing2229
@limpunsing2229 7 күн бұрын
Good comparison review
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
thanks !
@kaare1992
@kaare1992 7 күн бұрын
I really appreciate these in depth videos. But I am missing a parking ability and parking assistant showcase. I know it’s not the most interesting thing to showcase compared to what is shown in the video - but is still something that can matter when having to make a decision on picking one car over the other :) But thanks for showcasing cars so thoroughly!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
thanks m8! Yeah good point not sure if that would blow the length hehe
@kaare1992
@kaare1992 7 күн бұрын
@ It most likely would! And the other things are still more important ;)
@SpectralBloo
@SpectralBloo 6 күн бұрын
​@@autogefuehlMaybe Leah can show these features on the shorts on Thomas.letsgo channel.
@elroz1675
@elroz1675 6 күн бұрын
excellent comparison - and good choice on the cars. I like both of their shapes and design ...but that front grille on BMW is not sitting well with me.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
Cheers!
@Fiero1984
@Fiero1984 7 күн бұрын
I read all previous comments, seems most people hate the new A5 interior more than they do with the BMW giant grille. I owned a B9 A5 Cab like Thomas before I have my current G20 330i, the A5 did provide better steering feedback while BMW created a dead zone within 30 degrees of turning at low speed, hope they corrected this fault in this 4GC. Mult-link in the front does provide more comfortable feeling than MacPhason set up, but it is cosy to replace. However, the B48 engine does give you more driving sensation then the EA888. P.S Can you give Alea a microphone? I can't hear her. She looks gorgeous in leather pants and thigh-high boots as a co-driver.
@kmickp1166
@kmickp1166 6 күн бұрын
Audi’s decision makers seem to be on a suicide mission! As an former A5 coupe owner, the new range offers me absolutely nothing of interest, only an ocean of bland! They killed the TT & the R8 also, but for me the new interiors are dreadful, the fabric seats and panels in a vehicle at this price point is a disgrace & major step backwards for a brand previously renowned for quality interiors! Clearly the volumes of their former sporty 2 door range may not have been huge relatively speaking but these customers have, in the main, gone, in my case to Mercedes! Wake up Audi, read the room in terms of customer feedback!
@dartharagon9129
@dartharagon9129 Күн бұрын
mercedes also has just one coupe left and obviously you can very much get a different interior on the audi. Sure, it's going to cost a little more, but you can get everything thaz is fabric in leather aswell.
@basedpatriotLT
@basedpatriotLT 6 күн бұрын
how much more expensive is BMW? In Lithuania cheapest a5 starts at 38k, while cheapest bmw 4 series at almost 15k more. Plus they said they no longer produce 420 in Europe because of Co2 concerns (aka I could not even order 420, had tp be 440 or electric one). Anyway the price difference shocked me as previously I assumed A4/5 was direct competition with bmw 3/4 in price (and I saw some UK videos where base bmw was only 1000 pounds more expensive than audi)
@Zoranurai13
@Zoranurai13 7 күн бұрын
I really don’t like the silver plastic front cheeks of the audi. Should be either black or body colored
@WimalSamarasinghe
@WimalSamarasinghe 7 күн бұрын
Is Audi using the High Gloss Black Center Console because it costs less than a metallic finish? That may be the single reason that turns a buyer to an alternative.
@lbtobl83
@lbtobl83 5 күн бұрын
BMW FTW. With old interior (4 GC 2020-2022) it would still have physical buttons. It was a perfect car with those.
@stefanp.9222
@stefanp.9222 6 күн бұрын
When testing rear legroom, do you deactivate the "easy access" function (the one that moves the seat back a bit for easier access of front passengers) on the front electric seats? Maybe that function is one reason why it seems the legroom in the back seats is shrinking on newer cars you are reviewing. I find it hard to believe that new cars, with longer wheelbase and overall length are smaller on the inside.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
Yes
@januszpawlacz9681
@januszpawlacz9681 6 күн бұрын
Honestly, I prefer previous generations of both A5 Sportback and 4-Series Gran Coupe. They were much more elegant and were more user-friendly inside.
@Johnny91832
@Johnny91832 7 күн бұрын
Exterior wise, the A5 for sure. I love the exterior lights and especially the front ones were they do a really clean animation when unlocking the car. Interior wise, neither really. I want buttons and not high gloss black and definetly not fabric interior, it's too cheap looking! Keep the fabric seats as they serve a purpose. I'm considering an A5 Avant with a bright beige leatherette interior with many options, but nearly €70k euro for a midsize segment car, ouch.
@alexanderdepreter5118
@alexanderdepreter5118 7 күн бұрын
Buying a car for light animation... think about that again.
@Johnny91832
@Johnny91832 6 күн бұрын
​@@alexanderdepreter5118 I buy what I like thank you very much
@fred7511
@fred7511 5 күн бұрын
Why dont car manufacturers listen to their customers and keep the volume and climate buttons???
@goncalo33
@goncalo33 6 күн бұрын
Feedback for Audi: They got it right on the TT. No center screen, just the gauge cluster screen for the driver. Add a passenger screen for the passenger and it will be perfect. The Chinese are right on that one.
@MartinCerveny-ee9fp
@MartinCerveny-ee9fp 12 сағат бұрын
Can I ask what glasses frames brand/model are you wearing? I really like it
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 10 сағат бұрын
Thanks! Monoqool
@michaelditcher9326
@michaelditcher9326 4 күн бұрын
Audi FeedBack: The Digital gauge design isn’t great, a bit boring. I wish they would have more design options, more interesting classic RPM dial designs. I believe It would be a simple upgrade to the computer and Audi customers will appreciate it. Especially for the S-Lines and S models.
@jerrynovotnik
@jerrynovotnik 6 күн бұрын
Very interestring! Now the question is if the A5 engines with mhev have better shifting and fuel consumption. Or maybe the S5 is the drivetrain to go for? Then apart from the cheap interior it would be perfect.
@SS-yw7vo
@SS-yw7vo 6 күн бұрын
No under bonnet sound deadening on either car?
@MichaelKirven
@MichaelKirven 7 күн бұрын
Are those headlight washers on the Audi? And I thought Audi had heaters for the front sensors.
@cliffburtonnkardesiyim3725
@cliffburtonnkardesiyim3725 5 күн бұрын
I am an Audi enthusiast and owned two brand new A4 ‘s (2016 1.4 tfsi and 2021 40 tdi quattro) both were excellent daily drivers.Time has changed ,we have 2 kids and Tesla Model Y is the new daily ,also have a stage 2 Audi S3 8L as a track car.Imo New gen Audi A5 failed to catch Bmw 4&3 series in competion.
@darrenbodfish4591
@darrenbodfish4591 5 күн бұрын
Always like the look of both models 👍🏻 very practical & stylish cars.
@DBrealmadrid9606
@DBrealmadrid9606 Күн бұрын
The “Valcona” Nappa leather seats are crazy expensive in the new A5. Almost 7000€!! And you only get Nappa leather on the seats and the armrest. No leather on the door panels/dashboard/glovebox...
@AsımCangüven
@AsımCangüven 6 күн бұрын
How does the passenger airbag in the A5 work?
@josefv-y8m
@josefv-y8m 6 күн бұрын
It is in front of the passenger, but you cannot see it...Audi would not tolerate that you can see anything bellow the Slush-Skin. Other OEMs do not care and you see the position of the Airbag.
@peepa47
@peepa47 2 күн бұрын
Dont understand those shiny displays..but I like the blinker bar under the windshield 😀
@izo77
@izo77 4 күн бұрын
The BMW 4 series is the one I would take home (and did), but in it's more interesting i4 version.
@nikolasavic450
@nikolasavic450 7 күн бұрын
This is the one I was waiting for! Amazing review, Thomas-just the comparison we wanted to hear. Very objective! I also love the idea of incorporating a lady's perspective from the passenger seat. I own the 2019 A5 Sportback (so we have a similar taste :) ) and I feel that the new generation of the car has lost its aggressiveness in design and unique sporty look. This one looks good, but bland, designed to please everybody (though I understand it’s an A4 successor). As for the interior-it doesn’t have that “take me for a drive” moment. I’m leaning more towards BMW for my next car now (either the 3 or 4 Series). Can you notice any differences between these two in driving, and what would you recommend?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
thanks m8! In driving 3 and 4 are very similar. What I like with the 4 is the fastback opening, the frameless doors ( you can get in and out of tight parking spaces with remotely lowering/putting up the windows with the key fob ), only problem we faced here as explained is this stuck door effect for a few seconds in very very cold climate
@nikolasavic450
@nikolasavic450 6 күн бұрын
@@autogefuehl So you basicaly love the 4 more? Actually, I never thought about the idea that lowering the windows could help in tight parking spaces. These unique perspectives make people love your work!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 5 күн бұрын
Yeah besides that winter window issue the 4 seems more suitable
7 күн бұрын
Just recently I did also check new A5 at the dealership and I was shocked that I am not able anymore to have map view in drivers display. This is sucha downgrade. I always like to have audio navigation in front of me and on the main screen I use waze. Not anymore in A5. Also not possible to have waze in drivers display screen. From now on only arrows. Also the trunk compare to old A4 is less practical. In new A5 there is missing spare wheel and the lid inside the trunk is now fixed as there is the battery. Also the left and right side lids in trunk are not possible to open as in older model. I was using it a lot as emergency space. Space in the rear is also step back. Now it will be hard to go again with audi. Also the price is higher.
@nicholascenci8808
@nicholascenci8808 3 күн бұрын
This is the right comparison not the 3 series
@Jaroslav.
@Jaroslav. 7 күн бұрын
Oh so they put the Sline badge back on the side? Nice!
@kokibr91
@kokibr91 6 күн бұрын
Not so good if you paid for S5 and have the same badge. Should have kept it for S and RS models only.
@Jaroslav.
@Jaroslav. 6 күн бұрын
Not sure I follow what you mean, sorry.
@terokaakinen7061
@terokaakinen7061 7 күн бұрын
Thomas, can you tell how/were to activate auto hold in A5?? I don't see it next to hand brake...🤔
@chefchaudard3580
@chefchaudard3580 7 күн бұрын
It is the bottom one, closest to the driver, on my 3 series.
@terokaakinen7061
@terokaakinen7061 7 күн бұрын
​@@chefchaudard3580That is familiar.., but where it is in that Audi A5??
@mohammadal-abbasi7247
@mohammadal-abbasi7247 7 күн бұрын
Great comparison
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
🙏
@hiamaraldvaan7221
@hiamaraldvaan7221 5 күн бұрын
In audi those buttons on the wheel, are they better than the ones mercedes has?
@ruffmadman
@ruffmadman 6 күн бұрын
Oddly enough, I don't mind gloss black plastic. However, I think that Audi's interior dash and infotainment layout is so awkward the way all of the parts fit together. The parting lines, the way the various elements interact with each other. It all looks a bit sloppy. Especially the gloss black trim that extends from the passenger display surround and underlines the shelf the infotainment sits on, which carries through to the driver's door airvent.
@YamiSorei
@YamiSorei 7 күн бұрын
I preffer 4 series. I agree that front grill is better on the Audi but 4 series interior looks nicer. And there is less capacitive buttons (on wheel or doors) and no piano black. But this probably because that 4 series is older generation car, and newer BMW product like 5 series or X3 are crap as all modern cars.
@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 7 күн бұрын
I definitely love the look of matte paints on vehicles. However, in everyday use, they aren't great. You basically need to get a full matte ppf wrap to protect it properly. Save the thousands for the paint, and just put the matte ppf wrap on the regular paint. It will look basically the same.
@TheDominic1612
@TheDominic1612 7 күн бұрын
nice review
@bobs_sa8480
@bobs_sa8480 6 күн бұрын
Goodness it really is literally just that front grill on the 4 series letting it down, sort it out BMW! That Audi interior super disappointing, fabric should be nowhere near this segment/price-point of car. And yes physical AC controls all the way; not just better to use but it was always a nice chance for some additional design.
@user-Markk81
@user-Markk81 6 күн бұрын
The Germans are fighting who is gonna bring the cheapest, ugliest and most unpractical interior on the market. Waiting to see the next 3 series...
@cricho15
@cricho15 5 күн бұрын
So far, they have all been on the winners' podium 😁
@JohnInSale
@JohnInSale 7 күн бұрын
Nice to see that BMW have gone away from the shiny black piano plastic and back to grey, especially with separate button on the steering wheel, Audi seem a stage behind now sadly, especially with no centre under-arm charger and now sadly with the air-con 😢
@CharlesBojangles
@CharlesBojangles 7 күн бұрын
Glossy black is an option, alongside matte wood, glossy, wood, and aluminum trim with numerous designs.
@JohnInSale
@JohnInSale 6 күн бұрын
@ maybe , but I was on about the one in the video, the shiny black piano plastic looked awful 😢
@modernschoolatlas
@modernschoolatlas 5 күн бұрын
I've had a BMW i4 for two years, I've looked at changing it but I can't find anything that is better so I'm keeping it.
@thore8978
@thore8978 7 күн бұрын
Both look great tbh
@marcolo77
@marcolo77 6 күн бұрын
BMW feedback: I have an i4 for 2 years now, really love it. Only thing I am afraid for, this will be my last BMW. Drove the newer i5 which was letting me down. It is so ugly in comparison with its predecessor. You can see the cost cutting also with the newer X3. Actually I am surprised with the BYD Sealion which looks so much better in the interior for way less money.
@DarthRazu
@DarthRazu 7 күн бұрын
Both models out-price a VW Tuareg in the presented configurations. For the sake of the comparison I would pick the BMW juuuuust because of the better engine and the fact that it comes in with more goodies from the get-go. One thing I would like to know, in the Audi, if the passenger is using the display to watch a KZbin clip and there's already music playing on the speakers, which sound will play in the car?
@raulgarijocabanillas7836
@raulgarijocabanillas7836 6 күн бұрын
I find the LED animations distracting and tacky. It adds nothing of value. Audi should focus on getting the basic stuff right before adding extra features nobody asked for.
@devalraval007
@devalraval007 7 күн бұрын
No 'Quattro" badge on the grill?
@nickbien
@nickbien 7 күн бұрын
Audi is penny pinching check press photos from when the car came out, it didn't even have quattro badges on the rear, or s line badges on the sides... they added these back quickly after many people complained
@sevesellors2831
@sevesellors2831 7 күн бұрын
Thanks Thomas great review for me the BMW.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
🙏🙏
@michaelstaunton1632
@michaelstaunton1632 7 күн бұрын
Good video well done everyone 👍👍👍
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 7 күн бұрын
cheers m8 !
@WelcomeWithinMyDream
@WelcomeWithinMyDream 6 күн бұрын
Hi and thanks again for the videos! I love both cars. I would personally take home the BMW. Even though it has some elements which I'm not a huge fan of or I prefer in the Audi. I like the rear lights more in the Audi. Not a huge fan of the frameless doors. I prefer the design of the front screen in the Audi and the passenger screen. That gloss though... Reminds me of Mercedes. Looks and feels cheap. Overall, I would be happy with both!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
cheers!
@michaelditcher9326
@michaelditcher9326 4 күн бұрын
I also agree that the Audi steering wheel looks & feels cheap. Older models put it to shame. Plus, the front grill doesn’t have an exciting look. The previous A5 had a bit more sharper edges and made it more interesting. That being said, it does feel like they made a big leap forward.
@mso8190
@mso8190 6 күн бұрын
Climate units should be physical buttons in both cars. This should be a legal requirement.
@kokibr91
@kokibr91 6 күн бұрын
We see a curious change of positions: Audi making the best interiors now become really poor, and BMW making the best exteriors lacking behind Audi. New Audi design is great, pity the interiors are so bad. BMW inside is awesome. Another problem of new Audis is the engine choice. Both A5 and Q5 are having max 204 bhp for a pure ICE engine. At least they should have kept the 2.0 tfsi 265. S5/SQ5 is crazy expensive, the only good thing is that they are petrol now.
@senseikanacke69
@senseikanacke69 6 күн бұрын
They will sadly fill the gap with hybrid models
@cricho15
@cricho15 5 күн бұрын
Have you already driven a new BMW? Annoying. Touch-only takes so much longer to operate that it's unsporty and really no fun to drive.
@dkmyww
@dkmyww 7 күн бұрын
Audi interior is so cheap and nasty .. materials are poor .. previous models much superior
@Lvned766
@Lvned766 6 күн бұрын
I have to say I'm sorry but You are right. The interior of the models from about 2012 -2018 are the most beautiful. They were using real materials like Wood and aluminium.
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 5 күн бұрын
no
@GrandSil90
@GrandSil90 2 күн бұрын
I have to say, those cloth seats and elements on Audi are down right horrendous. Looks and feels like like VW Golf
@mc97635
@mc97635 7 күн бұрын
The Audi is a clear winner for me. The looks are just incredible
@rag_rs5
@rag_rs5 7 күн бұрын
Great video Thomas. Just so you know, you don't have to tap the climate control buttons on the Audi. You can slide your finger across the temperature number to increase or decrease it quickly/easily. It makes the whole climate system a lot easier to deal with.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
thanks m8 !
@nonamewatchamacallit7828
@nonamewatchamacallit7828 7 күн бұрын
Not a fan of the new A5 look overall. The light bar at the back doesn't fit at all. The previous A5 sportback looked much better. Would honestly take the BMW even with the beaver (as long as it's blacked out). Seen them on the road with extended shadownline and they look really cool. Not really pretty, but aggressive.
@perullgren2424
@perullgren2424 2 күн бұрын
do you whant old plastic bottle and use textile in your €50000 car?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 2 күн бұрын
do you want a dead body in your car?
@perullgren2424
@perullgren2424 2 күн бұрын
@@autogefuehl human or animal?
@biggeststeppa1
@biggeststeppa1 7 күн бұрын
Audi said they're going 'back' to honest design and then put fake vents over the artificially enlarged exhaust tips? Typical Volkswagen group... they don't know the meaning of the word 'honest'
@fred7511
@fred7511 5 күн бұрын
Dont like the cloth inserts in the Audi door panels and dashboard. Difficult to keep clean
@sergiosilva7411
@sergiosilva7411 6 күн бұрын
Just step into a 2025 Passat after being inside an A5 and you will start asking yourself if VAG is losing interest in selling Audi models... it is priced correctly though, at least the entry level versions. At the dealership they made me an offer that undercut a base 4 series (420i) by almost 10k euros. The BMW feels way better inside, and the engine/transmission are great by comparison, but does it justify the (much) higher price tag?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl 6 күн бұрын
compare the Passat here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYinho2LlL2hbqc
@Hsheuievvak
@Hsheuievvak 7 күн бұрын
Boa, Audi und VW machen eine gewaltigen Rückschritt im Design.
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@valerons
@valerons 7 күн бұрын
Still a Beaver 🐹