Autoguiding: Selecting a good Guidescope and Camera for Astrophotography

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In this astrophotography tutorial video, I'll explain what autoguiding is and show you how to select a good guide scope and a camera to start autoguiding.
Clear skies!
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0:00 intro
0:26 Why do I need autoguiding?
1:26 What is autoguiding?
3:24 What gear do I need for autoguiding?
4:55 How do I select a good guide scope?
9:24 Guidescopes and prices
14:09 How can I select a good guide camera?
15:59 Guide cameras and prices
24:45 Final thoughts

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@ChucksAstrophotography
@ChucksAstrophotography 3 жыл бұрын
Good info for people new in the hobby.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck, I learned from the best @chucksastrophotography!
@PlayStore-mi7gb
@PlayStore-mi7gb 3 жыл бұрын
HEY, It's Chuck in the comments! Hey man!! I watch both of you dudes! Far out!!!
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Chuck is awesome.
@moemode
@moemode 3 жыл бұрын
This video is added to my favourites . Going to need this information soon. The TS photoline first . Thanks for your reply wido .Clear skies . Stephen 👍.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@alexisvirgen8552
@alexisvirgen8552 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this videos! Best video explanation I found for this so far!!!
@karlk672
@karlk672 3 жыл бұрын
I have the ZWO F4 120mm guide scope and the ZWO ASI 174MM mini camera. This combination works really well, I have the ZWO 120MM mini but never got it to guide very well so got the 174 mono.
@crm114.
@crm114. 3 жыл бұрын
Skywatcher Evoguide 50 (with FF) + ASI290MM mini here. I’ve also used the former for imaging. Excellent review, thanks
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for the positive feedback!
@stevel3o7
@stevel3o7 3 жыл бұрын
ZWO ASI120mini system; cheap, small fits into finder bracket and works great. A step up is a guide camera with larger chip for wider field of view such as the ASI174 mini (the 174mini has much large ccd and larger which provides a wider fov and less sensitive guideing), still using the 120mini scope (30mm can see a lot of stars). Stepping up to larger aperture scopes usually means higher focal length and much smaller field of view for the guidecam, and a lot more weight. ** great video!
@gothicm3rcy426
@gothicm3rcy426 Жыл бұрын
im not at the level of dso with longer focal length (like my edge hd 925) but I plan to use an off axis guider. I plan to use an asi 120mm as opposed to my 120mc
@balacv02
@balacv02 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@MM0IMC
@MM0IMC Жыл бұрын
I use the ZWO ASI120MM mini guide camera and adapted Sky-Watcher 9x50 finder scope combination.
@martynh5410
@martynh5410 3 жыл бұрын
Wido, another informative and (for me) very useful video tutorial. When I save up enough $$$$$ for my EQ6-R pro mount, I’ll be looking at autoguiding for sure.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
aaah..it's a money pit for sure...
@darthmarvin247
@darthmarvin247 3 жыл бұрын
I use the altair astro starwave guiding bundle. I honestly did not pay attention to whether it was the best fit for my telescope, but it has worked for me so far.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
That's what matters most. As long as it works, it works. Clear skies!
@gothicm3rcy426
@gothicm3rcy426 Жыл бұрын
bundles are a great idea, due to it being matched well
@philippefossier7178
@philippefossier7178 7 ай бұрын
Very good video - lots of useful information.
@ArturSokolowski
@ArturSokolowski 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant explanation. You save me a lot of money. :) Thanks a lot.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@ithil8232
@ithil8232 3 жыл бұрын
Guidescope: Lunatico Ezg-60 60/230 f3.8 Camera: Zwo Asi 224MC Imaging scopes: Refractor TS 102/520 Newtonian 200/1000
@eugenedegoeij691
@eugenedegoeij691 3 жыл бұрын
Mooi overzicht! Heb de Evoguide en de ASI290mm mini net binnen dus ik kijk uit naar je volgende video!
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Dank je Eugene!
@Wheeljack678
@Wheeljack678 3 жыл бұрын
This must be a sign. I've been looking at guide scope bundles all day.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Hope this info is useful!
@user-lh7gd2xp6m
@user-lh7gd2xp6m 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! And about the right focal length for guide scope calculation... There is a section in the astronomy.tools that calculates the ratio mentioned in the video. It's under [Calculators] -> [Guidescope Suitability]. Shame that it doesn't tell you it's suitable or not, but it does tell you the ratio at least.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@mariavoronova7838
@mariavoronova7838 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot for explaining everything so well for Newby. I'm completely overwhelmed by the amount of information needed to only make a choice on what to buy and you really give me some confidence. If love if you make some offline learning sessions. Hello from the Netherlands as well)) and your hoody is just superb!) I want the same)))
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace Жыл бұрын
Hi Maria, thanks so much for your kind world's. You can find most of my tutorials on my website astroforumspace.com 🙂. Have a nice day!
@galbanese7329
@galbanese7329 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. I am using an Orion 60 mm guide scope and an ASI 290 mm guide camera. Seem to work well with my 8 SCT.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I'm and also considering the 60mm Orion as a new guidescope with my 178mc. Clear skies!
@damiengalanaud3817
@damiengalanaud3817 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Also using the Orion 60mm with the ASI 120 for the Edge HD8, and it's working fine. For my ultralight setup, I use the ASI120 with ZWO guide scope. I would strongly advise against using this later guiderope: it's too small (30 mm), does not gather enough light, cannot be aligned with the main optical tube and is a nightmare to properly focus. I bought it because it was lightweight, but I now notice that it is the same weight as the Orion 50 mm, and more expansive ! I will follow your advice and buy the Orion 50 mm. Damien
@AstroQuest1
@AstroQuest1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Wido. I also have the ASI178 for solar imaging which will be my new guide camera. I canceled OAG and will use a guidescope for the Edge8 - either the Agena 50/160mm, ZWO 60/280mm, or Orion ST 80/400mm. - Cheers
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kurt. I'm also thinking about upgrading, perhaps to a 60/240 with my 178mc. Given my reasonable guiding results at 162mm focal length I think it should be enough. Clear skies!
@tacomaastro7462
@tacomaastro7462 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Skywatcher EVoGuide 50ED and ZWO ASI120MM on my William Optics Zenithstar 103 ( Meade LX85 mount ) and my Ioptron 200mm Photron RC (Skywatcher EQ6-R Pro mount ). I do have the Orion 50mm and 60mm Guide scopes but was not satisfied with the image clarity. Guiding has been spot on running 5 minute subs with the Meade LX85. I haven't had enough clear sky time to drag the EQ6-R out. Maybe this week... supposed to have 3 nights of clear sky.... in a row..... Yaaaaay
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Great! Did you ever try the EVO guide for imaging? I'm interested to see what kind if pictures this little scope can make, Hope you'll have those three days of CS!
@qx3V45p
@qx3V45p 3 жыл бұрын
Having owned both I can say for certain the Orion 60mm and Svbony 106 are exactly the same scope. However the Svbony only costs 80-90 USD. I use the svbony 106 with the ASI120MM-c (Color) for guiding an 805mm OTA in Bortle 6-7. No issues what-so-ever. Thank you for posting the videos!
@wesleyson21
@wesleyson21 3 жыл бұрын
As is the Astromania 60mm guide scope. They are all made in the same Chinese factory as far as I know. Just a difference in price and the brand silkscreened on the scope.
@gothicm3rcy426
@gothicm3rcy426 Жыл бұрын
I have exactly the same guide scope and cameta :)
@gothicm3rcy426
@gothicm3rcy426 Жыл бұрын
I use an asi120mc, yes I realise the mm would be better... but so far my mc is doing a great job:) the deeper I go with deep sky, the advantage would show with the mm... im not that level yet for the really faint targets :) my telrad also helps a great deal with start up alignment
@astroazores
@astroazores 3 жыл бұрын
I´m using a Omegon Modular Guidescope with a ZWO Asi 120MM. it suits my Evostar 72E perfectly.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Valter, sounds like a good combination.
@jensman0185
@jensman0185 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got my guide scope and camera on the way for my Astro setup. I’m getting the Orion 50mm with the Orion starshoot autoguider camera on the way
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, enjoy your new gear!
@michaelnixon6672
@michaelnixon6672 12 күн бұрын
I am using the SvBony SV106 60mm guide scope with a Bresser GPCMOS02000KPA Toupket camera and a SvBony 205 camera. The Bresser GPCMOS02000K is a bit to work with, i still do not know how to get images displayed on my laptop but I will keep trying. Thanks for the video!
@DavesAstrophotography
@DavesAstrophotography 3 жыл бұрын
I'm was using an 90mm/500 and Bresser HD camera on my 8" Newtonian (1000fl), and a 60/280 and ASI120 on my Rasa and Edge 11s, however I will be changing the Edge 11 to OAG with ASI174.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Dave, I'm happy to hear about your OAG experiences, hope it works out. Clear skies!
@DavesAstrophotography
@DavesAstrophotography 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Cheers Wido, need to wait until late May to get home to it though... :-(
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@DavesAstrophotography aaah, the delays are terrible at the moment.
@DavesAstrophotography
@DavesAstrophotography 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I have all the gear it is at home, it arrived a few weeks ago, unfortunately I'm not I'm at work for 8 weeks! Just finished 1st week of hotel quarantine, another week to go, then 6 weeks on the platform...
@siegfriednoet
@siegfriednoet 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting info again Wido, looks like I ordered the right gear :-) Looking forward to the next video 👍. About the Primalucelab, I think it's the same as the Altair 60mm guidescope
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Siegfried! And yes, both guidescopes look very similar.
@siegfriednoet
@siegfriednoet 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Yes they do, only difference is the color blue vs red. Did you ever tried autoguiding with a color camera Wido ?
@krazyhartin
@krazyhartin 3 жыл бұрын
Recently, I bought a used Orion 70mm multi-use finder scope from ebay. Focal 279mm, f3.9, 2-element lens Crown glass(could be ED?), little heavy; weighs 544grams. I can use 1.25" eye pieces, T2 screw threads. I'm considering an autoguiding camera in the near future. I bought this because I needed a finder with the vixen dovetail mount and it wasn't expensive. :)
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting. The focal length sure is big enough to guide most scopes. The issue might the lack of a (helical) focuser? Good luck!
@krazyhartin
@krazyhartin 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I just checked the finder. I can confirm it does have a helical focuser; it's got the tightening finger screws, it's threaded on both ends, but without any readings. I didn't realise, what it was for! I'm still learning something new. :D
@krazyhartin
@krazyhartin 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Actually, you're right. There is no helical focuser. There is threaded adjustments for some focusing headroom but not substantial.
@AstroSoundscape
@AstroSoundscape 3 жыл бұрын
Good information as always Wido👍. I'm currently also considering a Rowan belt upgrade for my HEQ5pro. I'm using the Svbony 60mm which I think gets rebadged under many names, it's very good entry level option.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice! Ah the famous Rowan belt upgrade, hope you'll get sub-arc guiding accuracy Ollie, clear skies!
@AstroSoundscape
@AstroSoundscape 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I hope so Wido currently the RA seems to be at around 2.5 whatever I do so might have to try this famous Rowan belt. Seems strange not to have to DIY this but this is the astro way !
@sketch6995
@sketch6995 3 жыл бұрын
I replaced the finderscope that came with my Celestron Edge HD 800, after I spent 2 hours trying to fit a ZWO ASI120mm to it. I got a 70mm meoptix guidescope with 400mm focal length. last night I noticed that they sent the wrong polar alignment scope with the skywatcher mount. I see the constellation OCTANS in the scope, and I live in Colorado.......good thing I bought a qhy polemaster.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, Colorado is a bit more south from my latitude, but definitely not the southern hemisphere :-). The polemaster should do the job. I'm still using the polar alignment procedure in sharpcap pro. Clear skies!
@beatriceheinze2294
@beatriceheinze2294 3 жыл бұрын
Good video, Wido! Thank you fore that. I use the Orion ST80 as a guide scope on my 8" Newtonian, and sometimes I use it with my William Optics Zenithstar 61 on a side-by-side set up. For my TS86SDQ, I bought the ZWO OAG with helical focusser but at the moment I can't get this configuration to work. Probably due lack of experience with an OAG. BTW, most of the time I'm using the ZWO ASI 120MM Mini as a guide camera and sometimes the ZWO ASI 290MC.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Beatrice! I'm also looking into OAG, what is your issue if I may ask? Clear skies.
@beatriceheinze2294
@beatriceheinze2294 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace, it seems that I can't to get/find a guide star. I talked about it with others in a FB-group and they say that in the beginning it is a little bit practicing to get a feeling for it. But once you know how to work with an OAG, your never going back, they say :-). So, I have to experiment some more with it when the weather permits. Unfortunately, it will be cloudy, rainy and windy here the whole week. Wishing you too "clear skies" 🙂🌌🌠
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
@@beatriceheinze2294 OK, thanks for your feedback. Same here, cloudy nights for the next week or two. I'm sure it will be clear again when we have the next full moon :-).
@beatriceheinze2294
@beatriceheinze2294 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace hahaha...always the same with the bright moon :-D
@capdelaxavineta6267
@capdelaxavineta6267 3 жыл бұрын
SVbony sv106 60mm Guide scope F/4 and the zwo asi120mm mini pretty standard gear for a bigginer level thats what i use
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it does the job! Guide scopes and cameras do not need to be as sophisticated anyway. Clear skies! Thanks for watching.
@No_no83
@No_no83 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Wido and the community. I will try to be brief and factual. Please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere. I have 4 scopes ranging from 600 to 1600 mm focal lengths, at F ratios 3.9, 7.5, 8 and 11.25. I have two guide scopes, both Orion 50mmand 60mm ,with 169 and 240 mm focal lengths. Two mini guide cameras zwo 120 and 290 fitted with 2x Barlows. Depending on my imaging scope/main camera ,I use the guide scope/camera combination as long as I have a imaging/guiding ratio of less than 5.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's about right, but the most important question is... Are you getting round stars? If that's the case, then don't worry too much about these soft rules of thumb. Clear skies!
@No_no83
@No_no83 2 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I'm still a beginner in the hobby and I do things in the...empirical way I should say. I recently did, while it was still in the French skies, the Orion nebula and it was the best image I've ever taken. Today I'm still mesmerised by this image. I would love to share it to you so that you may comment on the latter.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jean, please send a link or the picture to astroforumlive@gmail.com and I'll take a look at it, merci.
@GarnettLeary
@GarnettLeary 3 жыл бұрын
Orion ST-80 with a QHY 5 II mono. This gives me much greater scale with the long focal length Maksutovs I like.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, 400mm focal length, sweet. Aren't you considering an off axis guider?
@GarnettLeary
@GarnettLeary 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace not in this case. The reason is constrained fov and not being able to find a suitable guide star. It works for some but I prefer the wider view for star acquisition. Personal preference.
@carvrodrigo
@carvrodrigo 3 жыл бұрын
If I connect my mount instead of on camera (st4 port) in PHD2, it will then send the commands directly to my mount??? If so, what's the point in the guide port? I'm new to autoguide. Great video thank you!
@AncalimeNL
@AncalimeNL 3 жыл бұрын
Wido is naar de kapper geweest ;)
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Mijn vrouw heeft haar best gedaan, lol
@michaelm.7389
@michaelm.7389 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your informational videos. I have an AT102ED and the ZWO ASIAIR Plus, I'm using a ZWO ASI 224 color and a SVBONY SV165 Mini Guide Scope 30mm F4 for guiding. My problem is that it loops and then goes into "calibration" but never starts guiding ?? What am I doing wrong ? lol.....thanks for advice you might have......Mike, Ohio
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace Жыл бұрын
Strange...Does your telescope mount move with each calibration step? Perhaps reinstall phd2 and see what happens?
@johnnydolve9594
@johnnydolve9594 8 ай бұрын
Hi Wido :) Thanks for your great and educative channel. May i ask you about two guide cameras i am interesstes in but not able to decide. Wich on will you recomend for 480mm guide scope and 2000mm focal lenght. ZWO ASI174MM mono or the Ultrastar pro mono from Starlight express ?? Kind regards Johnny Dolve from Norway
@therealkickers5166
@therealkickers5166 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Very informative, thanks! What I don't understand: You say that simple tracking of the mount will lead to tracking errors due to inaccuracy of gear, thread or nut wear and all that. Why does autoguiding make any difference then? The commands from the software will just again result in the mount being moved by its gear and threads and belts, which you say might be responsible for tracking errors. So why don't those errors occur the same way while autoguiding by any thinkable whatsoever expensive guiding system?
@rugglovr
@rugglovr 3 жыл бұрын
Svbony guidescope is identical to the second option but much much cheaper. It is doublet scope
@drfritz142
@drfritz142 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice overview. Good stuff coming from you as always. I'll be looking forward to the follow-up video. I have a simple 50mm/180mm guide scope + the ASI120MM mini. Guiding works reasonably well I would say, but my stars on on that small chip are more rectangular than round and look like someone stepped on a pizza. And yes - I have spent hours and hours to focus them. I 3D-printed 0.1mm spacer rings to aid that purpose. It is as good as it can be done without a helical focuser. So I am wondering whether the optics of the scope are that bad to produce such lousy start images. Perhaps you could say something about that in your next video. Thanks as always. Clear skies.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Strange. The mini should produce a good image of the stars, did you try to use it with your main imaging scope to see if you get round stars? Is yes, then it's the cheap guidescope that you'll be able to replace. Clear skies.
@drfritz142
@drfritz142 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace that will be my next step.
@claude77573
@claude77573 2 жыл бұрын
The weight of the Skywatcher EVOGuide 50ED of .9 LBS / 0.4 kg struck me as amazing, given the fact that this looks well made, has two front lenses (being a doublet), has mounting rings, etc. etc. However, after doing some web searches, the best I can determine is that this weighs somewhere around 800 to 865 grams, or 1.76 to 1.95 lbs. If so, the weight appears to be on par with the other 50mm to 60mm guidescopes. If saving weight is your goal, I don't think you'll find that here.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Claude! I checked out the weight of the EVOGUIDE myself. It states 800 grams on astroshop: bit.ly/38kKmcq and in the US at OPT it states 1.9lbs: bit.ly/3qtkJfH. Perhaps a typo was made where they took the 800 grams as .8 or .9 lbs? Anyway, still pretty lightweight if you ask me.
@hectordebuc8376
@hectordebuc8376 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wido, Would you recommend using a newtonian near the beach where the sky are really dark?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the seeing conditions are usually a bit better close to the seaside. The biggest issue I've ran into is the stronger winds which makes accurate tracking challenging. Good luck!
@One_High_Guy_420
@One_High_Guy_420 Жыл бұрын
Getting ready to buy my first setup. Looks like great info on auto guiding. Would you be able to tell me if the items in my cart will be a good set of equipment?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace Жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. My e-mail: astroforumlive@gmail.com
@oq17
@oq17 2 жыл бұрын
I have a basic question- when using auto guiding , are corrections made to the RA axis only ? Or do I need to drive the DEC axis too , so corrections can be made there as well ? So is an auto guiding setup include a one or two axis drive Thank you
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Most mounts have two axes, Ra and Dec. Autoguiding can guide using both axes, hence the two lines you'll see in guiding software like phd2. It is possible to do one axis guiding if you only have one (e.g. on most star trackers).
@oq17
@oq17 2 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace thank you very much for your reply .
@2badger2
@2badger2 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing astrophotography for 6 months. Right now I use a Nikon D500 crop sensor and a Redcat 51 250mm. My 4 minute exposures are really sharp across the whole frame with no auto guiding. My mount is a Orion Sirius EQ-G. My plan is for sometime next year to get a Orion 115mm scope which is 805mm. I first plan is to just characterizing the setup from 30 seconds to 4 minutes or until the stars aren't round anymore. Is there a equation to tell you when auto guiding is required for a certain focal length? Thank you and clear skies. Keep the good videos coming.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm afraid it's trial and error. I would advise you to get guiding with a focal length of 500mm or higher. Cheers.
@astrodiver8096
@astrodiver8096 2 жыл бұрын
I did bought pole master to make sure the polar alignment is accurate however I am finding difficulty to star alignment my eq 6 pro when I try to attach camera to the scope and use pc to star my Astro Imagining sessions,, any hint bro ?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I'm not using the pole master unfortunately. I'm using Sharpcap Pro to polar align my mount through my telescope/camera. Like this (see ending): kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqLGk3d5aNWXfZI I do experience difficulty in polar alignment and it usually happens when (1) I'm too far off the north star - you need to be roughly aligned to start the procedure, or (2) seeing is pretty bad, I sometimes have to up the gain and/or exposure time to get platesolving working, or (3) at native focal length or worse (with 2x barlow) it becomes almost impossible to polar align in sharpcap, better to use a small refractor with a wider field of view. Hope this is useful! Clear skies FreeDiver.
@larrycable984
@larrycable984 2 ай бұрын
tried a PrimaLice Labs 60mm guider but could not get focus, so trying a William Optics Guidestar 61mm w/61A flattener🤞
@andredellavolpe
@andredellavolpe 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, very nice your videos. I'm looking for a guidescope that suits my mount (10" Meade LX200 GPS - FL = 2500mm, aperture 254mm, f/10, main camera ASI294MC-PRO, guide camera ASI120MC-S, f/6.3 and f/3.3 reducers) The ratio you presented in the video: ideally, the ratios between resolutions (guidescope/main telescope) should be between 3 and 4? Thanks.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi André, the ratios are not set in stone. I've gone all the way up to 1:10 and still got decent guiding results. Guidescope length, size and weight also play a role. Nice telescope by the way! Are you using an alt-az or eq mount with that? Is it an advanced coma free (acf) telescope?
@andredellavolpe
@andredellavolpe 2 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Unfortunately it's not Coma-Free; It's a LX200 GPS 10", it's not the ACF version. I bought it in the first months of the year 2021 and I'm learning to solve one problem at a time kkkk. I've only been using it in the Alt-Az version, as I need to improve the guidance (one of the reasons I really liked your video!) Right after watching the video I practically gave up on buying a Guidescope: due to the FL 2500mm, I'll try to use an OAG. I bought both the equatorial wedge (ultra-edge) and also a Field Derotator from Meade (a rare accessory to find) to compare which of the two will allow good long exposures.Another step is to purchase a Coma corrector.
@scottrk4930
@scottrk4930 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wido . Are you *really* able to do Autoguiding on your 8" EdgeHD with the 50 or 60mm Guidescope and camera ? I'm being told that this combo won't work at that long Focal Length . I'd love to see something specific from you on the Guiding with this combo . Thanks for all the work you do on your Videos ./SRK
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott click one of my live streams, you'll probably see some live guiding and raw picture results. Old school AP ers are telling us that your guidescope should be about 1/3rd the FL of your telescope, but the tiny pixel sizes of the new planetary cameras are pretty sensitive. I'm still thinking about upgrading my guide scope but I've been getting very decent results. That APOD Pacman nebula was captured with a 50mm guidescope. Cheers.
@mickmoonstudycansell1889
@mickmoonstudycansell1889 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I've read that my 7" MAK /2700FL is quite good for dso's, what guide scope/ camera do you recommend for this? Thx
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace Жыл бұрын
A mak is excellent for planets, not deepsky. F/ratio is too high
@davidstearn1342
@davidstearn1342 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Where did you get the shirt?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace Жыл бұрын
Check it out here, 😆: astroforumspace.com/shop/
@stephenstrassen1135
@stephenstrassen1135 2 жыл бұрын
also i dont understand on my cpc800 the finder scope is showing upside down images is this normal as i cant get use to that as the main scope is correct
@PafMedic
@PafMedic 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Wido,Im One Of Your Newer Subs,I Took 3 Months Deciding On The Evoguide 50ed For My 6se,On a Skywatcher Eqm35Pro With The Asi120Mini Guide Cam,and Shoot With Either My Asi385MC or Canon T6i,How Do I Go About Getting It Set Up,Thats What Im Having Problems Finding Videos For,Then I Can Move On To This One,lol..Thank You and Clear Skies❤️🙏🏼🔭✨🌏
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a very old video on how to setup the Celestron AVX and a more recent one on first light with the Eq6r-pro. Or are you referring to setting up autoguiding?
@arturszulc4981
@arturszulc4981 3 жыл бұрын
Skywatcher 80/400 + asi 120mc-s
@bigreeser
@bigreeser 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, When you do your next program on autoguiding, could you please show a wiring diagram? Thanks. -Maurice
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not great at drawing but I'll try to make some drawings of different options to connect everything to a laptop/computer.
@cucubits
@cucubits 3 жыл бұрын
What sort of $ are those when you say "425" for the Evoguide? Currently it can be found below $300. Was it that high a few months ago?
@djphild
@djphild 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old-school Orion Starshoot Auto Guider on a generic 60 mm/240 mm guide scope. I've yet to use it effectively.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. You should be able to use that as a guide camera. I'm working on that second video where I show how to connect it all together and start autoguiding in PHD2.
@djphild
@djphild 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Cool. Looking forward to it. :)
@ppi57
@ppi57 3 жыл бұрын
Does the guide scope/camera have to be lined up exactly with the imaging scope? how critical is it?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich, if your polar alignment is good, then you should be fine. Rough alignment between scope/guidescope is good enough.
@thefourgrapples2810
@thefourgrapples2810 3 жыл бұрын
How are you Wido? If you look under calculators in astronomy tools, there is "guidescope suitability" chart that does the calculation for you. Just FYI. Great video as usual.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@thefourgrapples2810
@thefourgrapples2810 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace You are welcome.
@iridikim
@iridikim 3 жыл бұрын
Useful video AGAIN =) \o/ I'm using a TS Optics Photoline 72/432 on a CEM40G. Guidescope for trial and error (cheap one/brand: goedkoopie): Svbony 50/240mm Guidecamera: zwo asi 120mm mini And an Asiair Pro /Edit: after watching the part about guidescopes: Is the Svbony the exact same guidescope as the Orion? Only a different aperture?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, but there are lots of guidescopes in the 60/240 range :-).
@iridikim
@iridikim 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace I think in China they have a secret guidescope factory. At least the helical focuser, the markings and finish of those guidescopes are all te same. And now: More clear skies please!
@hottokatrazi
@hottokatrazi 3 жыл бұрын
What guidescope do you use with your 8" sct? The 160mm should be too short?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Check out my video here, you'll be surprised: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXPNinx-aLKEd6M
@hottokatrazi
@hottokatrazi 3 жыл бұрын
Nice., thx 😀
@davidvickers2272
@davidvickers2272 3 жыл бұрын
I am still manual guiding.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Hardcore, great. Do you use your finder scope?
@FernandoLuqueGallo
@FernandoLuqueGallo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wido! One more gear to buy in the future! 🤣 Is there a time when astrophotographers stop buying staffs?I don't think so!🤪
@PafMedic
@PafMedic 3 жыл бұрын
Im Getting At About a Stopping Point,lol..Need a Polar Scope Illuminator,Cause Im Tired Of Being a Contortionist,lol and a Digital Intervalometer
@FernandoLuqueGallo
@FernandoLuqueGallo 3 жыл бұрын
@@PafMedic Hey! Thing you are doint two hobbies at the same time! Astrophotografy and yoga! 🤣
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Good question! When bank account is empty would be my guess...
@Cindy-qh8vj
@Cindy-qh8vj 7 ай бұрын
Using a common combo of ZWO scope and camera, the images are always weak and blurry. I have spent countless sessions trying to focus better. It seems like the gear is not capable of doing better. The ASI AiR still guides, but is my situation common?
@IIIRotor
@IIIRotor Жыл бұрын
I have a question... why not use the main scope and camera, split the data-stream with one of these camara-splitting softwares and then feed this split-data-feed to the guide software...
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace Жыл бұрын
For deep-sky, the main imaging camera is taking long exposure pictures, so you'll need a second guide camera to take pictures every 1 or 2 seconds of a guidestar close to the target and feed that info to the mount.
@IIIRotor
@IIIRotor Жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace indeed yes... seems like these splitting software used for streaming does not like it when you try to fiddle with shutter durations and whatnot... darnit, almost thought I was gona get away with it...
@Space-Stuff
@Space-Stuff 10 ай бұрын
Hey Wido, this was a very helpful video. I have not been happy with my guidescope, which is an "Astromania 60mm x 240mm guidescope". It's not an extremely large aperture and it's kind of a short focal length. I think it's a doublet but the stars look really bad in it. So, thank you for your video. I think this will make me very happy. Wido, I have a question for you and that is; In the "Autoguiding: Selecting a good Guidescope and Camera for Astrophotography" video, (this video), the Nebula you have in your background looks, too me, EXACTLY like a Tiger's Head and right paw, and so, would you, please, tell me what is the name/catalog number of that Nebula? I would really appreciate it. I would love to image that Nebula myself and have it blown up into a large poster so I can hang it on the wall in my new Astronomy Room. I will make it the first image I hang on my walls! Anyway, thank you, once again, for ALL of your videos. They are always very informative and I really enjoy watching them. Sincerely, Rich Williams Astor, Florida 32102 USA!
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 10 ай бұрын
Hi Rich, thanks! The picture in the background is the orion nebula (Messier 42 or NGC1976). Cheers!
@3_Gold_Coins
@3_Gold_Coins 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was given a gift of a Meade LX85 M6. I want to know if it would be worth it to try to use it for DSO? If yes what guide scope should I get?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Steven, if I'm correct that's a maksutov telescope at f/12. It will be extremely hard to perform deepsky with that telescope due to the low f/ratio. It's awesome for planetary imaging though.
@3_Gold_Coins
@3_Gold_Coins 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@jtepsr
@jtepsr 2 ай бұрын
ASI 120 with asi 30mm f4
@williamwesley5078
@williamwesley5078 3 жыл бұрын
I want a shirt like yours
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Check: astroforumspace.com/shop/ no pressure :-)
@stephenstrassen1135
@stephenstrassen1135 2 жыл бұрын
hi ya iv not long bought myself a celestron cpc800 can i use an auto guide with that? and whats the different between a Celestron NexGuide Autoguider #93713 and Celestron StarSense AutoAlign ,on my cpc it has an auto guide port?
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephen, sorry, can't help you. I do not own a CPC800. Isn't that a telescope with an fork alt-az mount? I'd advise you to buy an equatorial mount for deepsky astrophotography.
@jondoethelast7279
@jondoethelast7279 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Maybe one of you guys can help me. I search a Guiding Cam with WLAN and ST4 Port. Has anyone see something like that? (best with APT Support).
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
You probably want to look into solutions like the zwo asiair. Clear skies.
@jondoethelast7279
@jondoethelast7279 3 жыл бұрын
@@AstroForumSpace Hi. Yeah this gear works fine but only with IOS/Android but i search a solution for Windows or Mac OS.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
USB hub?
@jondoethelast7279
@jondoethelast7279 3 жыл бұрын
​ @AstroForum Usb Hub can work but only for a short distance. I have to take 20-30m outdoor. the other equipment (Celestron AVX, DSLM) are connected with Wlan and works fine. Only the guiding-cam lefts. Now i have found a solution for the cam with an usb-rj45 implementer but the best way for me may a wlan guiding cam but it looks like there is nothing in the market.
@AstroForumSpace
@AstroForumSpace 3 жыл бұрын
I never owned one but perhaps this can help www.primalucelab.com/astronomy/computer-and-software/eagle-control-unit-for-telescopes-and-astrophotography.html
@alcyonemusica
@alcyonemusica Жыл бұрын
It look that: ZWO ASI178MM is the best choice
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