A Look Inside the Brains of the Cybertruck's Battery - Caresoft Teardown

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26 күн бұрын

We're back at Caresoft as it continues on its teardown of the Tesla Cybertruck. President Terry Woychowski reveals how its broken down to the cell level on the battery pack and also shows the evolution of Tesla's battery control module. There's even a little bit of an evolution on the 4680 battery cell and Caresoft found another Tesla Easter Egg.
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@barney2001
@barney2001 24 күн бұрын
I like Terry’s straight ahead information presentations. Not judging or criticizing how others do it. His attitude and approach, while not very flamboyant, is reassuring and builds confidence in what he explains. I am here for content and personal interest. Thank you John.
@George2647g
@George2647g 23 күн бұрын
No idea who ever else you could be talking about yeah 🥶
@KingAquariumJunkie
@KingAquariumJunkie 23 күн бұрын
Munro definitely went full fan boy
@jake5993
@jake5993 24 күн бұрын
Terry acknowledging his error is very professional. I was on the fence about his opinions but liked his informational videos and this made me appreciate him even more.
@Bits4Blits
@Bits4Blits 21 күн бұрын
I agee, but, I think he'll have to admit another error. I don't think the large electrolytic capacitors were replaced with the MLCCs. Typical large MLCCs are around 50V/100μF IMHO.
@anton_grahn
@anton_grahn 24 күн бұрын
Love Terrys calm and thoughtful walk throughs! 🙌
@mathildaaaaaa
@mathildaaaaaa 23 күн бұрын
I love how they appreciate the engineering work behind the product without diminishing or downplaying while still pointing out potential ways to improve. Competent and humble is just a great combination.
@philtrubey7480
@philtrubey7480 24 күн бұрын
There was some modeling done that showed side cooling was actually better than end cooling. Basically, the surface area contacting the coolant plate is much bigger with side cooling than end cooling.
@KarlKristianMoeng
@KarlKristianMoeng 23 күн бұрын
Yes i have seen the same. Many say that top or bottom is best (rivian and Lucid for example), but i saw Japanese battery scientists saying their research showed that side cooling is best if you have enough area (like Tesla). Immersed cooling is of course best, but that adds a lot of weight. Air cooling can actually be quite effective to. But everything has it's downsides.
@cgamiga
@cgamiga 23 күн бұрын
Concern for that for 4680s was the much larger amount of material/travel distance from center of "jelly roll" to the side surface... I thought one of the big advancements for Tesla 4680 was the "tabless" design, where for manufacture but also heat dissipatation, all the power & heat went to the ends of the cell? I thought 4680 batts would have plate not serpentine cooling for that reason... very interesting
@ZOD268
@ZOD268 18 күн бұрын
@@cgamiga On the bottom of the cell is venting and on the top are electrical connections. Design of this gen2 4680 cell is really good for bottom side cooling, but than again, this is vent side 🙂 And btw, vent is whole bottom portion that pops open, nut just small center rivet (gen1) or ball (gen2) that is pointed as vent in some videos including this one. This is pretty obvious in this video also.
@jamesbruce1183
@jamesbruce1183 24 күн бұрын
Regarding getting the heat out of the cells, heat is generated by the internal resistance of the cell. Lower resistance means less heat needs to be removed. If they can remove enough heat from the cell with their present method, there's no reason to change. In addition, with a 4680 cell it is only 46mm across the cell but 80mm vertical so it may be more efficient to remove heat from the side(s) that from the top or bottom.
@AllanSustainabilityFan
@AllanSustainabilityFan 24 күн бұрын
They also employ tabless battery design, so an electron from the very center of the roll, for example, does not have to travel round and round the whole roll, but just goes to the top of the tube, which means much less resistance due to that shorter distance, which means less heat and loss.
@jamesbruce1183
@jamesbruce1183 24 күн бұрын
@@AllanSustainabilityFan Good point. The best internal resistance is no internal resistance. - Me
@barney2001
@barney2001 24 күн бұрын
The heat has to travel further to reach an end but it doesn’t have the multiple layer interfaces to conduct across, as the battery is rolled up inside the tube. I believe Terry is correct about this.
@concinnus
@concinnus 24 күн бұрын
The Cybertruck reaches a higher cell temp than the new Taycan/Macan despite the charging curve dropping off at a lower SoC. The cooling is a bottleneck.
@AllanSustainabilityFan
@AllanSustainabilityFan 24 күн бұрын
@@concinnus Not the same cell chemistries for starters. Taycans have also been known for some early battery fire cases. Porsche has dropped the charging rate a couple times, and replaced batteries behind the scenes to avoid offering official recalls so far, as they were still learning their own EV production processes. Tesla, on the other hand, is known to start conservatively with charging curves on new designs these days, then bump those up with software updates - and upgraded Superchargers - as they gather data. They already went through Porsche's growing pains back in the early Model S days.
@TheJazzper1970
@TheJazzper1970 24 күн бұрын
Extremely informative yet again, thanks.
@anthonybrazzale7251
@anthonybrazzale7251 24 күн бұрын
Terry is such a nice guy and of course very easy and interesting to listen to. Thank you both for these presentations
@donedwards6414
@donedwards6414 24 күн бұрын
Two commensurate professionals at work.
@malcolmmackenzie9645
@malcolmmackenzie9645 24 күн бұрын
This guy has such great things to say. I just wish he would speak up. His voice drops off so low that even with the volume on my computer all the way up, I lose what he's saying and then when the interviewer speaks its VERY loud.
@FrankLowe1949
@FrankLowe1949 24 күн бұрын
I use a amplifier for those guys.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 24 күн бұрын
Use the captions. Also 1.5 X speed.
@klaussommer7382
@klaussommer7382 21 күн бұрын
Go see a doctor about your ears, please.
@zappini
@zappini 8 күн бұрын
Woychowski does speak softly. I also noticed he's short breathed. Former smoker? I hope he's taking care of his health.
@AntonioDiNunnoEVS
@AntonioDiNunnoEVS 15 күн бұрын
Looks like you had a few dramatic moments on getting that mica off. Those BB's are GONE. Dry ice? Heat removal for cylindrical has much more %surface area in contact with the cooling channel vs other formats. Studies show that side cooling is most efficient with cylindrical, up to a certain diameter, this cell is starting to hit that limit. Snap fit held in place with foam. NEVER moving. Nice job getting access to the array BMBs. See if you can find the easter egg in those!! BMS/charger upgrade is impressive
@ivankuljis1780
@ivankuljis1780 6 күн бұрын
_Just another day at the Office._ Thanks Terry& John.... Super Insightful Guys!
@capslock9031
@capslock9031 21 күн бұрын
I appreciate the correction relating to wade mode. Thank you for clearing that up.
@alexforget
@alexforget 24 күн бұрын
I don't see how the tiny component are the capacitors, they look like integrated semiconductors. I would like to see the other side of the board. I wonder how Tesla can push that amount of current through the copper of the PCB. I have never seen anything like this. Maybe they have a special kind of PCB with very high thickness of copper and they probably use very high frequency to reduce the size of the magnetics and the length of copper. Also I heard that this board is bidirectional, able to create 120v and 220v from the battery.
@vmiguel1988
@vmiguel1988 24 күн бұрын
This is for sure a GaN design and they are pushing the switching frequency quite high
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 24 күн бұрын
DC-DC converters use high frequency transformers to keep size and cost down. Typically about 80 kHz.
@AllanSustainabilityFan
@AllanSustainabilityFan 24 күн бұрын
Terry didn't mention during the heat conversation the fact that these are "tabless" battery technology, which greatly reduces the typical resistance of cell design, the main contributor to heat and loss. That translates to cooler cells that are easier to charge/discharge, making cooling requirements dramatically lower versus a traditional battery design.
@christianedelmann6880
@christianedelmann6880 24 күн бұрын
They aren’t doing plate cooling anymore so the tabless design doesn’t contribute the overall cooling performance anymore
@airheart1
@airheart1 24 күн бұрын
@@christianedelmann6880Tesla NEVER did plate cooling. You don’t know what you’re talking about. And it IS a tabless design in the 4680s.. at least, every version that was disassembled was. If they’ve changed it.. i’ve seen 0 evidence that that was removed from the design. Tesla has ALWAYS used side cooling. Well, since the first Model S battery designs that were shown.. all through model 3 and Y and now including CT. Maybe the original Roadsters were different.. but who would even care. They have nothing to do with 4680 battery design and cooling.
@jm100368
@jm100368 24 күн бұрын
technically its many tabs
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 21 күн бұрын
@@christianedelmann6880 Tabless has never been about cooling existing heat. Tabless is a shorter path way that reduces resistance thus less heat is created. This reduces cooling requirement, the only part I disagree with is that it's not massively dramatically different. A measureable difference for sure.
@shallenberger57
@shallenberger57 13 күн бұрын
Will some educate him on Voltage. We don't use 110 & 220 Volt anymore. 110 went away by 1960. The NEC was changed to 120/240 in 1984.
@user-uw3wm9xl1c
@user-uw3wm9xl1c 23 күн бұрын
Can you measure the power density of the cybertruck 4680 cell and perhaps compare it with the previous one from the model Y? Thank you.
@zilogfan
@zilogfan 23 күн бұрын
Best content on youtube hands down!!! This is awesome!! More detail please.
@grmmjhnsn2
@grmmjhnsn2 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for giving us another view on the Tesla world. Absolutely LOVING these teardown videos with Caresoft.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the insightful look at the battery and the power converter. It is good to hear both the hits and misses in the design.
@markokrasinski8033
@markokrasinski8033 24 күн бұрын
Always informative
@robmarkovitch
@robmarkovitch 24 күн бұрын
Great work boys. Keep em coming
@Johnny-es9xg
@Johnny-es9xg 21 күн бұрын
Hi at 14:40 it's not quite the same kind of transformers. The ones he is talking about is iron core transformers the ones for the Tesla uses iron ferrite core and are switched at a high frequency not 50-60hz like on a regular HV power transformer. Fast switching makes them far more efficient when stepping down voltages. Old technology though. If that cybertruck PSU goes short on the transformer windings it will blast a big hole in the PCB and then the whole PCB will have to be replaced. All this is not for more reliability ,but for energy efficiency and cost reduction because of reduced production costs.
@gocybertruck8189
@gocybertruck8189 23 күн бұрын
Excellent tear down and explanations.
@JeepAndThings
@JeepAndThings 24 күн бұрын
Great work!
@mini2nut67
@mini2nut67 24 күн бұрын
Electric motors are relatively simple, the electronics needed to power them is very complex.
@eleeter
@eleeter 23 күн бұрын
Correct but no moving parts.
@greenfrog58
@greenfrog58 21 күн бұрын
Great video!
@pxidr
@pxidr 24 күн бұрын
Autoline starts to be a lot more interesting than Munro Live videos
@jim97405
@jim97405 23 күн бұрын
Munro offers a team analysis.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 23 күн бұрын
Munro has more entertaining rants.
@zappini
@zappini 8 күн бұрын
@@jamesvandamme7786 True. But Cory balanced Sandy. And Sandy talking politics is like a virgin talking about sex; I just don't care.
@iMVP007
@iMVP007 21 күн бұрын
That's great video with a lot of details! Thank you. But please let us see the other side (bottom side) of the on board charger of Cybertruck.
@boredKiwi
@boredKiwi 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video, I also enjoyed the calm explanation from Terry and had no problem understanding the presentation, maybe since I'm a bit like him. But, regarding the physical battery pack design, as a long time mechanical engineer and designer I can't accept that filling an assembly with potting foam is a professional solution, nor a good idea. The fill volume and density is too unpredictable and of course it leaves the pack totally unserviceable. It looks like something I would have built for a science fair project in 8th grade back in 1968. The problem with a round cell is that the elegance of that design concept falls apart the moment you have to package hundreds into a rectangular enclosure, literally a round peg in a square hole. The low-quality coolant fittings and excessive number of connection points concern me as well, adding to the risk of failure. Other EV makers (e.g Hyundai-Kia and VW) have moved cooling to the outside of the pack for exactly this reason. IMO, the balance of product attributes seen here trades away too much in safety and quality in the interest of cost and thermal performance. I realise you can't say that but I can be honest about it.
@mike168168
@mike168168 22 күн бұрын
I’ve seen that when the coolant hose attachment to the battery pack is damaged, it necessitates replacing the entire battery pack. So even for a minor coolant hose damage, the whole battery pack needs replacing. Is it still the case with the CT battery pack?
@daves1646
@daves1646 12 күн бұрын
It’s been my understanding that Tesla chose side cooling to have a higher contact surface area to transfer heat across. With the larger radius cells, has end surface area started to approach the side contact area? I’d bet not yet or Tesla would used end cap cooling and enable putting more cells in the pack with removal of the winding cooling conduit, and gain a simpler cooling plate design.
@Emerson1
@Emerson1 24 күн бұрын
At 15min, there seems to be a mistake regarding the Capacitors, maybe he will correct it in the next video
@shaneclk9854
@shaneclk9854 24 күн бұрын
Those don't look like caps to me at all
@tomglenn485
@tomglenn485 24 күн бұрын
You don't get micro farrads without 'plate size' ... that said if Tesla's come up with electronic control technique to massively reduce the need for capicitance ??? .... well I've got my ears out for this.
@vishnuchandrasekar7204
@vishnuchandrasekar7204 24 күн бұрын
May be the finger was pointed to little right side during his explanation in Tesla cybertruck
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 24 күн бұрын
There are actually surface mounted capacitors though, and they look very similar to the ones in the video.
@PygKLB
@PygKLB 24 күн бұрын
Fascinating info on the voltage converter board. Transformers and power capacitors take up lots of space and are costly to assemble.
@dariomarquez12
@dariomarquez12 22 күн бұрын
Wow!! It has been amazing learning with all this Cybertruck battery pack videos!! Thank you very much for sharing and keep this videos going pls!
@RelativisticVelocity
@RelativisticVelocity 22 күн бұрын
I could only hear about 40% of what Terry said, had to use captions. Maybe a headset mic would work better?
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 23 күн бұрын
An important thing Terry Woychowski did not say about the cell cooling is that the current collectors will carry heat in any direction there is a thermal gradient. Thus, while the collectors carrying heat to the bottom gives more even cell heating and cooling, the current collectors will carry heat around the cell to the contact patch. The contact patch is propable 2.5 times the size of the cell base. Still, for the cooling requirements of most real life applications, a cooling plate across the base would be sufficient and it would mean more cells in the same 2D space. However, the cooling plate would need a hole in exactly the right place for each cell - not hard to achieve, but each hole and the base of the plate would need protection from a thermal runway. If the plate is punctured, all cooling of the pack would be lost.
@markot4627
@markot4627 23 күн бұрын
This channel is so much better than Angry Munro’s Musk fan channel.
@leviandhiro3596
@leviandhiro3596 17 күн бұрын
Exactly !!! 😂
@douglascarrphotography
@douglascarrphotography 12 күн бұрын
it is interesting but will be way more interesting to see a comparison of a Rivian and a Ford Lightning components for a comparison
@Seasherm
@Seasherm 10 күн бұрын
I found Woychowski's presentation to be full of opinions, but not well backed up. He talked about going from 800 volts (DC) on the main battery to 48 volts (DC) for car operations and then told us all about the transformers that do the transformations. Transformers work only with AC power. An actual description of how DC voltage is raised and lowered in modern electronics like the Tesla would have been nice.
@caseymuni4097
@caseymuni4097 24 күн бұрын
Voltage converter from y and cybertruck are different because they are different frequency and perhaps power ratings. The capacitors in y are big to smooth the dc on the high side. The cybertruck converter does not have those capacitors despite what they say in this video.
@darylfortney8081
@darylfortney8081 24 күн бұрын
Love these but his voice is so soft often I cannot hear what he's saying ... hope it's not parkinsons
@snaplash
@snaplash 22 күн бұрын
Is there anything that will dissolve the blue foam?
@Ryanstuff
@Ryanstuff 24 күн бұрын
I suppose it would take someone internal from Tesla but I would love to learn what some of the early adopters issues (software and or hardware based) are coming from. How they got there and what the remedy would be.
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 23 күн бұрын
Wow!! This is top tier electronics and cost cutting. But we have yet to see any of it in an affordable vehicle.
@jim97405
@jim97405 23 күн бұрын
Used
@Indyzato
@Indyzato 23 күн бұрын
Very interesting. We’re in the Wild West, still needing much more r&d.
@emceh
@emceh 22 күн бұрын
Do you guys know how much power can be drawn from 48V DC/DC converter?
@Clark-Mills
@Clark-Mills 24 күн бұрын
That new CT penthouse PCB is so elegant and the ferrite / PCB-coil combo is amazing. I don't quite get what's up with the capacitors though... I suspect there on the underside maybe? No doubt smaller / higher frequency. Thank you, great reveal!
@hotrodandrube9119
@hotrodandrube9119 24 күн бұрын
Surface mount super capacitors maybe.
@Thatdavemarsh
@Thatdavemarsh 24 күн бұрын
The caps are used for voltage smoothing. I wonder if those are not caps at all but mofsets switching at frequencies to chop the peak and fill valleys? These could be buck converters in lieu of traditional transformers.
@eugeniustheodidactus8890
@eugeniustheodidactus8890 24 күн бұрын
Wish Terry wasn't such a *_low talker_* !
@TheReal_JG
@TheReal_JG 4 күн бұрын
I see Terry as the Bob Ross of automotive tear-downs. Calm, easy to understand, makes some little accidents, and chuckles over it. Terry is a good spokesman for those curious in this industry.
@hotrodandrube9119
@hotrodandrube9119 24 күн бұрын
I thought these 4680 cells were their dry cathode process and not the typical "jelly roll" that's traditionally used to make all other batteries. That souvenirs that john got would sell on eBay for a mint. I think the old ones from model Y were going for like a k, and more people want to see the new tabless dry cathode cells.
@russh6414
@russh6414 23 күн бұрын
If I'm reading this segment correctly, the entire CT battery pack is not repairable and has to be replaced as an entire unit on failure?
@SyntheticSpy
@SyntheticSpy 22 күн бұрын
This is how Tesla has done their batteries for a while. On some of the older models third parties have done battery surgery to replace individual cells, and I think it might still be possible on this pack, but it will be a lot harder
@DerekDavis213
@DerekDavis213 23 күн бұрын
At 3:29 , the host thinks a Jelly Roll is similar to a multi-layered Cinnamon Roll. omg Too Funny.
@paulkearsley9509
@paulkearsley9509 22 күн бұрын
Transformers only work with AC, but batteries are DC
@jed2049
@jed2049 23 күн бұрын
insane electrical engineering
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 20 күн бұрын
Lol!!! Nothing insane there! Wait till you see GaN valium nitride it's the holy trail of electrical engineering
@EVunedited
@EVunedited 22 күн бұрын
Sandy is playing catch 😢
@andyfeimsternfei8408
@andyfeimsternfei8408 24 күн бұрын
DC voltage is not changed through transformers. Transformers only work with AC. The battery DC must be converted to AC first. DC to DC converters are used for lesser power applications.
@philtrubey7480
@philtrubey7480 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, these tear downs need to be done by very advanced EEs, not auto people! There are many things he got wrong.
@barney2001
@barney2001 24 күн бұрын
You can certainly use DC - DC converters but there are limitations. A high frequency AC circuit using a tuned transformer has higher efficiency and can process more power.
@andyfeimsternfei8408
@andyfeimsternfei8408 24 күн бұрын
@@philtrubey7480 I agree. How qualified can these companies be to teardown cars and do engineering analysis without the proper engineering staff?
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 24 күн бұрын
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 maybe they have one guy who does the video demonstration and another who is an electrical engineer and some stuff got lost in translation
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 24 күн бұрын
DC-DC converters typically are designed to convert DC to high frequency AC, about 80 kHz, so voltage can be changed with a transformer, then the AC output of the transformer is converted back to DC. Not an electrical engineer myself, but that is how they explain it to me.
@catch_me_if_you_can1147
@catch_me_if_you_can1147 19 күн бұрын
Finally not that fanboy waffle from munros. Thx showing the systems in detail.
@InternetDude
@InternetDude 23 күн бұрын
So glad you have Terry on these episodes instead of Looney Sandy.
@zilogfan
@zilogfan 23 күн бұрын
That capacitor upgrade is a big deal. Tesla has reduced the amount of capacitance they needed and eliminated the electrolytic in favor of some solid polymer caps (over near the end of the board). The old electrolytics have a paste electrolyte and rubber gasket and are one of the only components with a limited life. GREAT to get rid of them. Let me know if you ever want help on content for these. love the content, just need more...
@alanmay7929
@alanmay7929 20 күн бұрын
Wrong! They just used regular industry components nothing special and why aren't they talking about the manufacturers of those electronic components?!
@zzzztau
@zzzztau 24 күн бұрын
wow the capacitor comment is so wrong....
@Bob-my3lv
@Bob-my3lv 20 күн бұрын
Def not Monroe.
@switzerland3696
@switzerland3696 21 күн бұрын
Analysis of the boards is wrong! There is said it, so prove me wrong internet. I do have a background is automotive audio electronics in particular high power class-D auto amplifier design (DC-AC(HF)-DC-AC(LF) converter chains) Not sure on the cream coloured transformers, On the model Y I am seeing what maybe out of what he is calls 4 trandformers, what looks like 1 traditional transforer and what maybe 3 inductors. On the cyber truck besides the cream coloured ones I am seeing inductors more than I am transformers. On the model Y is that also a tranformer hiding under the PCB on the far right. I suspect that the cyber trunk is running at alot higher switching frequency, so they maybe ditching the caps altogether, as the smoothing via the output inductors maybe enough to smooth out the signal. I am not expert, but I know enough having run a car audio amplifier brand, where we released our own range of amplifiers, that things seem off to me.
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 16 күн бұрын
I also have a background in automotive electronics and even Munro's EE "experts" are usually wrong and don't actually have experience in automotive. That said, I counted at least 5 or 6 things wrong with the Superman PCB that wouldn't see the light of day at any legit automotive Tier 1. One more reason I don't own Tesla's.
@musicman53
@musicman53 24 күн бұрын
Tesla's rate of innovation must be super scary for legacy auto!
@ericogden4589
@ericogden4589 19 күн бұрын
They're paralyzed, but they did get a corrupted judge in Delaware to try and sabotage Tesla. Despicable.
@jim97405
@jim97405 23 күн бұрын
While it might be ideal to have every battery surrounded by foam, the additional cost may not be worth the benefit. It may be that sufficient foam is the goal. Additional effort to reach perfection adds cost. Sure, perfection seems a worthy goal. But if it doesn't increase marginal utility while driving up the price, it's not financially reasonable.
@tslaryrad
@tslaryrad 23 күн бұрын
Is Caresoft going to sell any of the Cybertruck Cells .? Like Munro had done in the past mentioned likely wouldn't sell many of these due to how hard to remove them lol
@andrewthompsonuk1
@andrewthompsonuk1 22 күн бұрын
Looks hard if not impossible to repair when it breaks.
@BSBS-lg4hu
@BSBS-lg4hu 22 күн бұрын
heat always go up, so why would you put the plate at the bottom?
@TheLobo91
@TheLobo91 21 күн бұрын
Just reinforces that fact that cylinder batteries is the single worst design decision tesla has ever made. Rectangles are far more effecient use of space, easier to make per volume, and easier to install since there will be less wiring, and you can autually repair larger square batteries where you cant repair these "cells". Dump nmc cylinder already and move to LFP square this year please.
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 21 күн бұрын
LFP is Brilliant for (Home storage) or a heavy portable powerstation . ( i have one =o) ) LFP is Much safer , But it is Heavy.... and has less energy density ...
@inothome
@inothome 24 күн бұрын
The design is not to make it better, it's to be able to manufacture and assemble it with as little labor and costs possible. Nothing to do with better quality. That "foam" should actually be thermally conductive silicone to help pull the heat, so the little physical contact area of the ribbon cooler is not the only means of cooling. Thermal conductive silicone is pretty common in tight electronics for better thermal conductivity. Plus that PCB designed transformer makes the entire assembly garbage when one transformer fails. Instead of an easily replacable part a reman can replace, now you have to replace the entire PCB.
@jamesvandamme7786
@jamesvandamme7786 23 күн бұрын
Realistically, the average wrench turner is not going to troubleshoot down to the component level, but chuck the board. Also, the reliability of transformers is much higher than the other components. High power active elements fail, connectors fail, electrolytics dry out.
@inothome
@inothome 23 күн бұрын
@@jamesvandamme7786 Of course I wasn't referring to the average mechanic. I was referring to aftermarket remanufacturers. Just not a good design for longevity or repairablity to use embedded coil windings. And this style of transformer is not as efficient as a normal wound transformer. Sure, may look "cool" but definitely cost savinvg over performance and reliability. As far as electrolytics, not many on the new PCB and quality electrolytics don't have the issue that plagues most electronics with bad caps.
@jim97405
@jim97405 23 күн бұрын
Obviously an attempt to compete with Munro. I like both channels.
@callmevoid9407
@callmevoid9407 20 күн бұрын
Great review, but the battery design is not amazing, it’s awful. Just one example, there are four sections, and the weakest one will kill the whole battery, why not make them individually replaceable?
@360MIX
@360MIX 22 күн бұрын
SUGGESTION: Videographer, please let your talent "terry" know not to whisper, to keep a same level of voice throughout the video.. specially when your not compressing/normalizing your audio in post....
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 21 күн бұрын
He might have a Controlling Partner that has Trained him to ( Never Raise His Big Boy Voice ) ... and is stuck in whisper mode... Till someone Gets him Stoned with a Brownie or other Psychoactive... Unleashing The real Man.
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv 24 күн бұрын
That Tesla battery pack is the most horrifying thing I have ever seen. Wait till your Tesla goes out of warranty and things start breaking. your pocketbook will cry uncle. My ICE has been out of warranty for decades, and I still drive it every day. Because my ICE is so simple, I can DIY repair everything on my car myself. And my ICE will still be on the road when the last gizmo laden Tesla goes to scrap yard. LOL
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 23 күн бұрын
The design intent of the battery is clear...force the insurance company to declare a total loss.
@ItsBondoBaby
@ItsBondoBaby 23 күн бұрын
OK grandpa that’s enough Facebook for today…
@jim97405
@jim97405 23 күн бұрын
Good for you. If you enjoy spending your time off under a hood, great. I'm glad to get rid of a gas pump, oil pump, fuel pump and deadly coolant. My garage floor is perfectly clean. No smell of oil or exhaust. I get 300 miles for $4 by charging at home overnight. I just laugh at gas prices.
@ericogden4589
@ericogden4589 19 күн бұрын
Ok, grandpa.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 24 күн бұрын
Lots of technology, but the Cybertruck has had quite a bumpy and problematic debut, from premature rust, to fingers getting pinched in the auto-frunk and other issues. Hopefully they can get these things resolved ASAP.
@whattheschmidt
@whattheschmidt 24 күн бұрын
#1 is environmental, not the stainless steel panel rusting. #2 is idiots getting social media clicks.
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 21 күн бұрын
He might have a Controlling Partner that has Trained him to ( Never Raise His Big Boy Voice ) ... and is stuck in whisper mode... Till someone Gets him Stoned with a Brownie or other Psychoactive... Unleashing The real Man.
@leeoldershaw956
@leeoldershaw956 24 күн бұрын
It's almost an incentive to buy a Cybertruck/Tesla just to own this technology in your garage. I think including the software these are the most technologically advanced products on the planet. Even more so than airliners.
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv 24 күн бұрын
And after few years, electronics starts going bad, and so will the uber expensive battery. DIY repair? LOL
@leeoldershaw956
@leeoldershaw956 23 күн бұрын
@springer-qb4dv So you're the internet stranger to argue with today. EV batteries seldom fail and are warranteed for 8 years and 100k miles. They are lasting 250k. Modern electronics seldom fail. Teslas are maintenance free. I've had them 6 years and incremental cost per mile is $ 0.10. Tires and electricity. The autopilot and Full Self Driving are superb. Cross country driving on the Tesla supercharger network is seamless. Charging is quick and easy. A 225 mile round trip from Marco Is.to Ft. Lauderdale needs no recharging.
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 23 күн бұрын
John, can you please get your 4680 cell weighed on a certified scale, and let your enthusast community know the weight in grams.
@MTerrance
@MTerrance 23 күн бұрын
Somebody should make a rechargeable flashlight using a 4680 cell...someday! Totally different topic. These cybertrucks are going to show up in war zones. Also, despite the weight, what is to stop using these things on the moon or Mars? I suspect the issue would be heat dissipation, since vacuum is not ideal for heat dissipation.
@V10PDTDI
@V10PDTDI 24 күн бұрын
What I really don’t like about Tesla is nothing is serviceable in the battery pack it’s not like a I phone or a I pad it’s a $ 100 000 vehicle and if and when the battery pack takes a dump the hole vehicle is mechanically totalled yes you can put in a used pack but the price is still going to be expensive compared to a single part replacement it’s a shame coming from company the tel us that they want to protect the environment. This comment is coming from a automotive technician who sees that things needs repair and I’m no EV hater I own 2 VW EV cars and both care have rebuildable pack the parts are all available over the counter.
@ElectrifiedStud
@ElectrifiedStud 20 күн бұрын
Ask that guy to eat well... can't even speak boldly in a consistent volume. What a pity.!
@JetFire9
@JetFire9 24 күн бұрын
I would prefer if he didn’t use his sex voice to explain Tesla battery packs.
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 24 күн бұрын
Another bust from Adrian on the Superman PCB! 1.) 80V AlElCaps placed too close together! 2.) No isolation RTV between the AlEl caps so this board wasn't tested under vibration! 3.) DC supply Ceramic Capacitors on U14 and U2 not doubled and placed at right angles! 4.) C136 and C129 misaligned on the pads! 5.) No filet on C186! 6.) Visible graping on C142 and C143 so the reflow temps are incorrect! Now we know why the CyberBusts are failing left and right!
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 24 күн бұрын
Bro liked his own commet 💀
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 24 күн бұрын
@@mcsike7264 Nope! Don’t compare me to a famous automotive CEO who has multiple sock accounts to prop up his main Xitter feed!
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 24 күн бұрын
@@bobbbobb4663 what 😂 you need to touch grass my guy your moms basement needs a brake
@bobbbobb4663
@bobbbobb4663 24 күн бұрын
@@mcsike7264 Condolences that your PCB is junk. Maybe fast food is in your future.
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 24 күн бұрын
@@bobbbobb4663 i dont eat fast food am just saying you should leave your mums basement form time to time
@christians4122
@christians4122 23 күн бұрын
PLEASE dude stop mumbling and whispering!!! Your making a video 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@dubsydubs5234
@dubsydubs5234 24 күн бұрын
There's a massive amount of stuff to go wrong, ICE cars are so simple.
@nibotkram7743
@nibotkram7743 24 күн бұрын
simpler with more parts and systems?
@barney2001
@barney2001 24 күн бұрын
We’ve had over 100 years to refine the ICE engine. We still measure camshafts as they turn and lots of other stuff you don’t need to think about until it breaks. Outside the engine, there is as much or more complexity in the ICE car as an EV with many control modules and signal wires. There’s no logic to where ICE manufacturers place these modules either. The body control module is often located near the rear axle, exposed to everything. What’s simple about that system?
@dubsydubs5234
@dubsydubs5234 24 күн бұрын
@@barney2001 If you're not a mechanic you wont understand. I count 1000 batteries and BMS full of 1000s of electronic components in the one piece battery holder a lot, every item can fail and will, if you think it's a good deal to pay $20 - 40k because 1 50 cent chip fails them so be it, enjoy the pain. ECU's fail on all cars, non cost $20k+
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 24 күн бұрын
I would like to see GM's Ultium battery platform tear down, those look much more repairable from the little i have seen about them.
@fcv1967
@fcv1967 24 күн бұрын
The world has left you behind
@otleyshev68
@otleyshev68 23 күн бұрын
I honestly Really look forward to these tear-downs but unfortunately I actually turn tv off 1/3 way throw . I am totally frustrated as the amount of waffling is Terrible imho and with such great Details around say these two battery’s model Y and the cybertruck’s battery’s terrible comparison honestly don’t know what types of people your aiming for but I bet the amount of people turning off is a lot … if you intend to do this please try to take a leaf out of Munro live .. yes it’s your competitor BUT I never 👎 actually turn off the show 1/2 1/3 . Watch in its interiority …!!! So stop mumbling speak clearly be precise acutely speaking about the product get in there be intricate show detail detail detail ……. Maybe another speaker …??? Sorry but for a company to succeed you NEED positive criticism . More to say but hopefully you get the message . Ps Munro live has had my help in way of some detail . Thanks
@leviandhiro3596
@leviandhiro3596 17 күн бұрын
Over engineered tbh
@user-bf8se6yb8o
@user-bf8se6yb8o 23 күн бұрын
Meh... I prefer Sandy's team!
@billybobbob3003
@billybobbob3003 24 күн бұрын
i cant believe these luddites are pushing electric vehicles obsolete technology from the 1830s lol.
@nibotkram7743
@nibotkram7743 24 күн бұрын
Computerization and modern battery technology wasn't around in the 1830s. ICE is at the end of its development process, Ev's are at their beginning.
@JD-yx7be
@JD-yx7be 24 күн бұрын
why are you ghey?
@billybobbob3003
@billybobbob3003 24 күн бұрын
@@nibotkram7743 computers make electric vehicles worse than the 1830s and a battery is a battery they do the same crap modern batteries still cannot compete with the energy density of gasoline even thousands of years after being invented. ev's are going back into the obsoleted garbage bin where they belong dipstick.
@billybobbob3003
@billybobbob3003 24 күн бұрын
@@nibotkram7743 electric vehicles are going back into the obsoleted ewaste bin sooner than you think. modern ev's are worse than ev's from 1830s atleast you could actually work on those and a battery is a battery they store electricity one is more dense than the other that's just natural evolution just like engines have evolved too bad batteries still havent evolved to be more energy dense than gasoline and probley never will be and will be relegated to the dust bin of history where they belong.
@hotrodandrube9119
@hotrodandrube9119 24 күн бұрын
​@@billybobbob3003it doesn't have to be more energy dense than gasoline, because you can recharge it, not light it on fire. And tell me more about the electric cars from the 1830s.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the insightful look at the battery and the power converter. It is good to hear both the hits and misses in the design.
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