Autoloaders 101

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[@t3dweipin193]

Waiting for ammo replenishment on the Type-10 is mind torture

[@Just-My-Clips]

Try the sumoa sm

[@eggshapedisraelioperative6317]

Same with the French AMX50 variants

[@Smartyvoy]

Try using the ST-A4 which autoloader only holds 14 shells and takes ages to replenish even 1 shell into the ready rack. To add insult to injury, you can't reload if you have no shell left in the ready rack.

[@wotwott2319]

this is why I only bring enough ammo to fill the ready rack and whenever I run out of shots, I'd either sit on a friendly point or J out

[@DubiousFIN]

​@@wotwott2319i also only take the autoloaders worth of shells since im propably gonna die before it runs out.

[@YamatoPower9000]

French drums don't load racks but individual shells with agonic speed and if you fire or flich loading will start OVER from scratch.

[@jerryalbus1492]

That's why you don't fire while reloading smh

[@The_Gabinator]

I might be misinterpreting, but do you think other autoloaders reload the whole rack at once? because that is not the case at all. All autoloaders to my knowledge load each shell individually, it's not just france.

[@juusolatva]

it's also rather convenient how all the shells in the ready rack are in a superposition and only become a specific type of shell when they're reloaded, but granted it would be a pain in the ass to micromanage the shell types in the ready rack.

[@nazidoggo5463]

there are exceptions to this, swedish, russian and japanese mbts can select and rotate through their ready rack irl, the T80 for example can rotate around which shell it wants to select from the ready rack apfsds or he

[@juusolatva]

@@nazidoggo5463 true, although the reload time would change slightly depending on the shell position, which means you could then micromanage the shell positions in the ready rack, but obviously it's way better for gameplay purposes to take an average and use that as the reload time instead.

[@jerryalbus1492]

​@@juusolatva just do AP-HE-AP-HE on the racks so whatever you want is easy to get. Bruh

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@jerryalbus1492 But if you werent able to switch between rounds, you would basically double your reload time. And if you could choose between assigned ready shells, their order would not matter, only how many

[@shawarman2469]

Once i've got a 5 minute reload on a freaking puma. ammo rack was destroyed, and even after refilling it on captured point reloading time hasn't changed, i think i even got a screenshot of that somewhere (you can check how long it will take to reload if you press "reloading" voiceline)

[@theallmightyego6756]

Haha, I had this same problem in test drive and recorded it, it’s laying around somewhere, 99% sure it’s caused from the gun overheating once, reloading, and then overheating again, and then the subsequent reload being bugged to be ridiculously long for like- 1 round

[@bumblebeangiangiulio6951]

When a mosquito lands on your balls you undesrtand that violence is not always the answer -sun tzu: the art of war thunder

[@mocsing6]

Turret rotation on modern MBT's be like : turret rotation affected by gunner's skill

[@akipovakipov8240]

also the fact that when he gets wounded the rotation speed significantly decreases. More like the reaction time should decrease

[@digistruct0r245]

it obviously goes faster if you push the button harder, that requires skill from the gunner

[@niklasw.1297]

@@digistruct0r245 me when playing fighting games

[@michaelvigil5321]

Even on most vehicles of WW2 they had electric drives. Gunner skill and damage should only affect aiming right when the crosshair is getting near the cursor and reaction speed when changing directions. I think a lot of people would be happier with that and it would make so much more sense than "bro is hurt and isn't strong enough to press down the joystick".

[@kju520]

Nah​@@michaelvigil5321

[@tirushone6446]

it can get slower, strv 103 with only one crew left and no battery

[@Zenturion7]

Strv 103 should be covered in its own video later(for unique features)

[@pikaachoo3888]

Lol 1 crew left and the dude is dark red, would be atrocious to play

[@cereal65]

I think autoloaders should be a module that can be damaged & repaired

[@DanielNotWise]

Only after extra time reload for loaders while vehicle is on the move or during turret rotation

[@vizender]

If an autoloader mechanism were hit, either the ammo would cook of or the breach would be destroyed. Either way, having the autoloading mechanism modelled is pretty useless

[@hoosierfarmkid]

@@vizender*looks at every Russian tank infamous for eating rounds with the carousel*

[@stikfigz]

​@vizender The autoloader is a large mechanism that is much more involved than shells and the breech

[@Elyron2004]

@@vizender yeah yeah sure buddy, like if the AGS or similar tanks didnt have a empty turret with only a dot to hit to disable them, like if their autoloading system didnt exist, and tbh the only autoloader system that is actually modeled is the puma, but that only gets your armort burnt

[@axchneer]

Does crew skills effect ammo rack replenishment?

[@Zenturion7]

this will be covered in a different video

[@TheOreoOverlord]

Yes it does, it even says In the crew skills area I believe

[@5ilent5hift]

@@raizencore Reload of the gun is not the same as replenisment of the ready rack that the autoloader draws from Edit: After testing myself with the AMX-13, reload skill does indeed affect the ready rack replenisment. 16s with max reload skill and silver quali, 20s with no skill or quali

[@zkcd_]

​@@5ilent5hiftcan't just leave us on a cliff hanger like that

[@snickersmyknickers5120]

1 thing about tank batteries. Vehicles with higher turret drives will drain the battery quicker when you rotate your turret. Keep this in mind if your engine has ever been shot out to reduce power usage.

[@_xgreex_]

i always worry that gaijin will add an autoloader component inside the vehicle that will be damageable

[@mr.abrams9885]

Everybody gangster until the ready rack runs out of ammo

[@NoahBower-sf2oy]

Speaking ln the topic of autoloaders France just got it's Leclerc reload buffed to 5 seconds!!

[@tsukuyomi835]

Your cc decal is awesome!

[@Shadicals]

If you have a damaged barrel or the thing behind it (I forgot the name ;-;) then you get an additional 3 seconds, 6 if both are almost broken.

[@wotwott2319]

does a fully mechanical autoloader in something like a Chi-Ri II also get affected by no battery?

[@anttihuhtala5840]

Most useful. Thanks!

[@lunarplayerlps3844]

In addition, once the reload with out battery started, automatic reload doesn't get faster after engine repaired

[@vinny.g5778]

I got many questions now: Is the battery and the fact it got limited power a new feature? If not is this a new feature for autoloaders to balance them? Is it only this tank or even my AMX-50 surbaissé is going to be affected? 😢

[@icy3-1]

Mfw my Abrams loader dies and/or the ready rack is empty

[@burningsinner1132]

It's not like you got ammo outside your ready rack if you play sweaty. And on-point replenishment instantly loads ammo in the ready rack. That's why replenishment times are a big deal to begin with.

[@icy3-1]

@@burningsinner1132 Yep. Not really griping. It is what it is :)

[@The_Gabinator]

Maybe I missed it, but did you test whether or not the "Loading" skill affects the speed of the ammo replenishment?

[@TheJayjam]

Does crew skill affect ready rack reload?

[@BGnome94]

does loading skill effect the restocking speed?

[@JUKEYEL]

오 의외로 고증적인 부분이네 기관포들도 똑같은 영향을 받나요?

[@4S1X_]

Strv m/42 DT has autoloader which reload is affected by crew level as well as amount of crewmembers left even with full rack

[@cat_clan_leader]

Because it's not entirely "automatic", more like a hand operated mechanism. DT is such a strange creature lol

[@4S1X_]

@@cat_clan_leader I went to check to war thunder if there`s any info on breech about it being automaticly loaded and I realized there is no info about it but I believe there was such an info one day, however correct me if I`m wrong

[@cat_clan_leader]

@@4S1X_ yeah it's a really obscure modification. You'd need to go to Swedish archives if you want to get best specifics on the mechanism. Unfortunately I can't read Swedish, otherwise I would gladly try to fish through those documents lol On a totally unrelated note, do you have any idea where I can find specifics on the LOSAT missiles guidance system? Lockheed Martin doesn't seem to want to give me anything smh

[@jamesfletcher9032]

no engine battery should equal no reload, no? or is this the time for manual reload, in which case are they using real figures for maual reload time around an autoloader under certain failure conditions?

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Would make sense if they were simply manually loading it

[@lerbronk]

shouldnt no battery only permits pt16 to reload since its the only tank (ifaik) which loader can still loads the gun despite having an autoloader

[@syfury3403]

No, I don't know for other tank, but Leclerc can also be reload by the crew if the mechanism have an issue

[@Riotlight]

Loader skill should affect speed at which ready rack is refilled. Shame they dont implement this. Would mean the loader is still useful on auto loaders and even more useful overall.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Someone else tested it and concluded that it does affect it.

[@Manchweld]

0:23 except for in the SAV, which is bugged rn and can fire with an empty mag after like a 0.25-0.5 delay because the game gets confused

[@khangngo5864]

low battery = slow turn turret too

[@hunter.kt3234]

Type 10 reload ready rack kinda funny, when u out of ready rack and wait 30s, u only need to wait around 8 or 10s and u will have 1 shell in ready rack, i think is very useful because i just kill a merkava when he destroyed my ready rack and i dont need to wait like full 30s

[@cat_clan_leader]

Alright now check out how rockets and missiles are all reloaded In all my previous testing, I can say that it is quite inconsistent between most vehicles

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Shouldn't tanks with rammers such as the T-62 have a speed bonus of sorts?

[@TEWAPLISAK]

Irl gun resets its elevation every time after firing. still pretty cool tho

[@Feafdom]

Man the reloading crew skill should affect the ready rack too man shits mind agony

[@theabsolutemadlad2240]

It does

[@Enteropy23]

vidar autoloader when your loader gets shot:

[@leonaigamer3810]

Does AS make a difference?

[@justinolaier1213]

4초 레오는 특수한 장전장치 구조 덕에 즉응탄이 다 떨어져도 장전수가 직접 장전을 할 수 있었다고 한다. 그렇기 때문에 배터리가 다 떨어져서 자동장전기가 멈춰도 인력장전으로 장전이 가능한 거 아닐까? 만약 인력장전이 불가한 케로젤 같은 방식은 배터리가 다 떨어져도 장전이 가능할까?

[@Sandwichr]

I love autoloaders but the ready rack loading time is awful

[@StarReveurMA]

My Lorraine likes this information 😊

[@Brzzzyexe]

learned that the leclerc has a 5.0 auto loader but only after i die when i peak him

[@icy3-1]

And that's the recent Leclerc reload buff. Used to be 6 secs

[@TricaGamer]

2:35 and 3:35 contradict each other

[@upernoba]

at what point sir?

[@icy3-1]

How exactly? You're looking at two different vehicles and scenarios: the PT-16/T14 with a human loader which helps with replenishing the ready rack while still being autoloaded, and the M1128 Stryker MGS, which has a fully automated replenisher.

[@glaizz975]

Why does having less crew make your autoloader slower? How does that make sense?

[@icy3-1]

That's not it: it's the replenishment of the autoloader/first stage rack that gets affected: not the actual reload rate of the gun

[@Gentleman-uh4zq]

This not ferplay vs loaders tanks gaijin why no modeling the autoloders for modul? Example the autoloader is damaged and need more time to load the ammunition….

[@raizencore]

For those who may not know, crew skill doesn't affect autoloaders.

[@mocsing6]

However crew skill affects turret rotation speed and gun elevation speed on modern tanks which is very weird

[@syfury3403]

​@@mocsing6true 😂

[@Jasiuc330]

@@mocsing6it shouldn't even affect some WWII tanks since, they had electric/hydraulic turret and gun steering mechanisms

[@mocsing6]

Ah I see, even worse then. I just do not understand why this is not talked about more, maybe spaghetti code? @@Jasiuc330

[@michaelvigil5321]

It affects how fast your loader stowes ammo to the first stage rack. That's why losing your loader or comander/loader shits on your stowage speed.

[@OMIKNA]

이노래 듣고 몇년만에 에컴제로 다시켰다

[@lord_o_muppet]

No loader?

[@huafu7639]

wow，nice ace combat 0 music🎉

[@moonjigi]

승무원영향은 소련도 마찬가지인가요

[@Zenturion7]

어느 나라든 다 그렇습니다

[@andrewpeterson6526]

Do the Strv 103 with 1 crew member

[@GoRideLP]

hungry shark ahh music

[@hunlepto2239]

Zenturion, you forgot the fact that you can replenish your autoloader rack faster by staying on a captured point and waiting for it to refill ammo. This significantly helps especially when playing tanks with small autoloaders.

[@Hamfish2809]

I think first

[@Soviet_12]

Yes comrade

[@avosushi4631]

Congrats

[@Commanderocket]

I liked my own comment.

[@fajarganteng9716]

good

[@i_like_plen]

And youre proud about it?

[@bloodyblase3074]

Blasphemy!

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

I like turtles!

[@cactus_nihahahah]

Grammercy!