Automatic Vs Manual Transmission for Jeep and Off Road

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@cpkmet
@cpkmet 2 жыл бұрын
Jeep JK had a W5A580 not a 545rfe
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
They had both.
@cpkmet
@cpkmet 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits never behind a pentastar v6 or in the U.S. the 545fe was only used in hemi swaps or in the non U.S. CRD diesel. The 3.8l v6 JK had a 42rle.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed information. I’ll pin your comment so folks can see. My opinion still stands on the JK 5 speed automatic, just disappointed in myself for seeing that 545 as an option on the website and assuming it was widely used.
@davidyeats6609
@davidyeats6609 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks J….. love the detailed information you give out. Love the insight you lend to my eyes and ears brother. Thank you
@matadorprime
@matadorprime 2 жыл бұрын
I have a hand throttle installed on my manual TJ Jeep and it's one of my favorite upgrades, especially when offroading. All three of my Wranglers have been stick-shift and have loved them all.
@Skitter302
@Skitter302 2 жыл бұрын
When towing or daily driving I like having a manual. But when going off road, or recovering somebody with a yank rope I like an Automatic because that fluid coupling action allows me to focus more on the technical aspect of what I'm doing.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Solid point!
@hickoryridgefarms
@hickoryridgefarms 2 жыл бұрын
True but autos off road can short live torque converters. It’s a lose lose but all smiles
@07G56
@07G56 2 жыл бұрын
At first I wasn’t gonna watch this because this has been discussed so many times but I’m glad I did. Good info!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm super glad you stuck it out and appreciate the support of the channel!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 2 жыл бұрын
You describing the 3.6 sounds like me describing the 4.0 in my 4Runner. Same complaints, no low end torque, all the power is up high and the transmission is very unresponsive. I guess it's a Toyota guy thing, because even the other 4R owners think there's no problem running this at 4K all day. I'm not really a yota guy, I just thought at the time that the 4Runner would make a good driver. The nicest thing I can say about the four liter is that it's an engine, it starts when I turn the key, and is likely to do so for several more hundred thousand miles.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@j.r.777
@j.r.777 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been around off roading all of my life but I’ve always done it before in trucks. Last year I decided to get back into it and after doing lots of research I settled on ordering my first ever Jeep. I ordered a 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. With my Jeep I wanted a naturally aspirated engine and while my heart wanted a manual transmission I knew that having an automatic would be far more beneficial for me in the kind of off roading that I would be doing so when I ordered my Jeep I ordered it with the 3.6 liter Pentastar V-6 with eTorque and an 8 speed automatic transmission. 2 weeks after my Jeep was ordered Jeep announced the release of the 392 V-8. Had that been available with the Extreme Recon package I would have then ordered that one instead but it’s was too late in order to do so back then. I also considered getting the diesel engine but the only reason as to why I didn’t was because it had a smaller gas tank due to the def fluid and it didn’t come with 4:10 gears. I wasn’t buying my Jeep to be a speed demon. I wanted lower gear for better crawling and off roading. With my Jeep, it has done great so far and I have really enjoyed it but I do agree that the 3.6 liter Pentastar V-6 does seem slightly a little underpowered at times. But oh well. My Jeep has performed well for the most part. My only outright hate that I have in my Jeep is the eTorque set up. I absolutely hate everything about it and wish that the Jeep just had a regular alternator and single battery like almost every other vehicle does as well. With the battery and alternator, they’re cheap and can very easily be replaced on an off road trail or when someone is off grid. With the eTorque, all of the parts are crazy expensive. Especially the belt start generator and eTorque battery under the drivers side body on the vehicle. The eTorque also has its own cooling system and water pump and having to replace any of those components out on a trail somewhere or while you’re out camping totally off the grid in some remote location would be darn near impossible to do not to mention again the insanely expensive parts for the eTorque system.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear this about the e torque in the Jeep. The Ram truck I drove with that setup felt pretty great but I didn't do any hard off road obstacles with it.
@j.r.777
@j.r.777 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits, as far as how it works it does fine but I hate the loss of simplicity and the cost required to fix those components if I ever have to. Then should that happen on a trail I would really be screwed. Yeah it can be done but nowhere as easy as a regular battery and alternator would. When I ordered my Jeep I had no idea what eTorque even was much less everything that consisted of it. And because when I ordered my Jeep on 11-30-2020 the 2021 Jeeps, which mine is didn’t have a lot of info out yet. I knew there was a start/stop button that could be turned off but that was it. And I turn mine off every time I get in my Jeep. I hate that thing too. My next one will definitely be a 392 so I don’t have to worry about all that crap.
@barryfowler6835
@barryfowler6835 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Jeep b/c my Chevy 2012 auto trans just failed. My jeep is a manual and I’m very impressed with it so far. Not rock crawling yet, but in snow and mud it does great.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the breakdown but I'm glad you have a manual Jeep that you like.
@Stretch1931
@Stretch1931 2 жыл бұрын
And I hear for stalls on hill climbs, you can change your clutch pack to sonething like a centerforce clutch, which does really well in demonstrations to hold the engine speed without killing during off the pedal hill climbs in neutral. So it’s possible that a simple change can bring fun back to the manual transmission without the concerns of stalling on off-road adventures. Now, of course like any major obstacles, the clutch and engine will need to be feathered more. But just on a 15-20% grade, centerforce can help climbs with no pedals.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking about that upgrade but pulling the transmission out to do the clutch and flywheel is a lot of work.
@kbialo2340
@kbialo2340 2 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to your manual transmission tips/tricks. I have black 2dr 2014 JK Rubicon. So much fun to drive on and off-road but has its challenges sometimes on the rocks. But also adds to the adventure and I feel connected to the vehicle. Anything you can share from your experience will be great and appreciated by a bunch of your followers!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Hope to offer some good stuff!
@rjm7168
@rjm7168 2 жыл бұрын
Power adders in CA is expensive since you have to go with an approved kit. That said, I just installed a Whipple SC in my 2004 Suburban 2500 and it is awesome.
@JoseOrtiz_1416
@JoseOrtiz_1416 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a few jks with the 8 speed over the last year and every single owner has loved it and swear by it. Definitely a go-to mod for drivability aspects
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
That totally confirms what I've been thinking... I wonder how much that swap is.
@JoseOrtiz_1416
@JoseOrtiz_1416 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits jeepspeedshop out of California has done it numerous times. I want to say ballpark 5-8k all depending on how much you find the actual tranny for
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoseOrtiz_1416 Hey thanks!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know that this is true because I've never driven one, but I've been told by JL owners that the eight speed is also more forgiving to running larger tires on stock gearing. I spoke to one guy who told me he was running 38s on his Rubicon with stock gears, and could still get close to 20 MPG on the highway. People like to talk, so I don't know how true that was haha.
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation of all the benefits and detriments of automatic versus manual in the offloading space. Great to see Pinto, too!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@calebjared75
@calebjared75 2 жыл бұрын
When I grow up I want to be you! Luckily I have ended up with a manual JKU and a 4wd k1500 (also green haha) I am trying to follow in your footsteps with all the upgrades (as budget allows)!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
HA! Thanks dude... this junk does get expensive fast!
@HowtoAutomotive
@HowtoAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I’m building my first jeep that happens to be manual and I definitely plan to use a ton of your experience guiding me through this build. I hope to document that on my channel as well not as an expert but as somebody learning.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck! And we are all learning!!!
@p.s8950
@p.s8950 2 жыл бұрын
I'm totally into my 2003 TJ 4 ltr. straight 6 w/5 speed manual. it's the best, if you can drive.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great setup for sure!
@KansasSlim64
@KansasSlim64 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your manual insights. Other than a ‘77 F-150 I drove for a few years, my daily’s have always been manuals. I’m sure there will be some tips I can pick up, particularly in the rocks. Though my time in Sand Hollow in January went swimmingly. What a great week that was!
@chrisgravatt4688
@chrisgravatt4688 2 жыл бұрын
The reason I drive an automatic is I am 6' 8" and a sardine in a can in my 2 door JK. Love the detailed comparison, never knew about the brake technique for loading up the suspension. I knew a little bit about using brakes to trick your limited slip into engaging.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't imagine stuffing that much dude in a Jeep... lol Makes total sense to keep the leg movement down a bit.😂
@GreatEgret
@GreatEgret 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it’s time for a 6.4L Hemi swap in the Jk. Maybe add an 8sp HP70.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I like this plan!
@JD-MLJKUR
@JD-MLJKUR 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the manual in my 2014 JKU. Rock crawl a lot in New England. I'd love to have the auto. Its a totally different element with proper gear selection, braking, stalling, etc. Hopefully a re-gear will help.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right... proper gearing is even more critical in a manual trans. vehicle!
@dustyweasel41
@dustyweasel41 2 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine put in 4:11 gearing in a CJ7 I had and it made it feel like I had a v8 back in that good old NH mud.
@aacar4095
@aacar4095 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted a little auto versus manual comparison, but this video is superb. Obviously, this guy knows his stuff about all sorts of things and I learned a ton. We are one of those jeeps city warriors and probably I’m gonna do very little off-road but I still like to know where the week points are and how everything works. Excellent job! Totally agree that this engine desperately needs an eight speed and was so glad to see them finally do it. It’s crazy how much better performance you can get out of all these vehicles nowadays with an 8 speed versus a five speed transmission Unfortunately, I won’t be able to snag one of those for a few years financially :-)
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@wailingalen
@wailingalen 11 ай бұрын
I got a JL 2 door six speed, and it drives good! Haven't tried the 8sp auto. But my moms Passport has a 9sp auto, and it seems these newer autos are a lot better then the 4sp slushboxes of yesteryear
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864 2 жыл бұрын
that was another great video Jason! Driving a stick shift myself I am looking forward to the upkeep and recommendations from you. Hi Pinto!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! I will think about a few manual maintenance things but overall it's such an easy item to manage.
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864
@sandralutz-rodriguez2864 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits always looking forward to your content and videos Jason!
@johnboudreau5135
@johnboudreau5135 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Really enjoyed this show. Thank you.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kylegarrison4853
@kylegarrison4853 2 жыл бұрын
Your jeep is definitely a goal for the jeep world
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much... it is sorted out pretty well... time to hit some more hard stuff this year!
@elevatedtactics2464
@elevatedtactics2464 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha.. Tahoe Wrangler! Great tip on the brake drag! Thank you
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! And appreciate my silly nick names!!! Thanks!
@bcmandel
@bcmandel 2 жыл бұрын
Having owned both a manual(2012) and an auto(2015) JK I can tell you for the amount of wheeling I do I much prefer the auto. The biggest drawback to the auto vs the manual that I have noticed is that the brakes on the auto seem weaker. On 35s with the manual I never felt the need to upgrade to better pads(I did upgrade to powerstop bits), on the auto I needed to upgrade when I went to 35s. Left foot braking is a thing in most motorsport applications, except maybe drag racing. I would brake with my left foot on my manual because I didn't have lockers, but knowing how to do that allowed me to run lines that "required" lockers. Even around town I use my left foot for braking on all my cars and have for the last 20+ years.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Brakes are the same... you might be experiencing the lack of full "engine braking" in the automatic.
@bcmandel
@bcmandel 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits most likely, I bought the exact same brake kit for both jeeps. Might also be that the auto is a Rubicon and the manual was a sport.
@chrism5705
@chrism5705 2 жыл бұрын
Some very good observations that you've made in this video. The "goodness" of the 3.6L and 6spd manual depends allot on overall gearing. Too little gear and it feels heavy, too much gearing and it feels like all revs no go for on road daily driving ("too much" gear is good off road). The 3.6L and 5spd auto are not a good match. The 3.6L and ZF 8spd are a much better match. I drove a 3.6L 8spd in a Durango and it was night/day better than a 3.6L 5spd auto in the Wrangler (and the Durango is heavier too). Wife drives a Durango RT with the 8spd auto and its quite nice. Keeps lower gears in "sport" and responds quickly when asked for a downshift. Even holds redline when I'm driving it (occasional Italian tune up)! I've been driving manual transmissions for over 30 years now, in NYC traffic much of that time (for reference), and until a few years ago I never drove an automatic transmission that I can get along with. The newer automatics, including the ZF 8spd, are pretty good. I'd love to see the ZF 8spd in the JK, and all the work it would take for the trans controller & ECU to jive.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy Joe's Jeep is already at a shop in northern california getting it done... so we'll see how it goes.
@davidkay7389
@davidkay7389 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see your take on the Atlas upgrade to the transfer case
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw Bleepin Jeep do a different T case that looked pretty amazing… have you seen it?
@BattlePhrog165
@BattlePhrog165 2 жыл бұрын
If you have the opportunity to do a video on the ZF8 swap (anything from a how-to or just an overview) I'd be ecstatic! I've been tossing that idea around in my head for a while now.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll see!
@williamlugo1905
@williamlugo1905 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to see a video of the transmission upgrade.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure it makes sense for me to swap a manual to automatic in mine but I'll talk to my buddy and see if he is going through with that swap.
@jimschmidt4089
@jimschmidt4089 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation between autos and manuals. I own a 2016 manual and share your feeling about the connection to the vehicle. I also drive it daily and for the 10% of the time I'm able to get away and rock climb it's very manageable. One of maaaaany reasons I follow you is that you were building a manual and I liked the direction you went with it. I also agree with you on the Pentastar engine...not impressed with it's low end power. I'll keep close to see what you end up doing. I do like the ProChrger power adder but everything comes with a cost. I'd be interested to see what direction you go.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I like hearing from like minded folks!
@MotorBoating1413
@MotorBoating1413 2 жыл бұрын
As always Jason and Pinto. Love the videos and content. I do miss the Ram though 😞
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy! I miss the Ram as well but it's in a good place.
@YourLocalJohnBoy
@YourLocalJohnBoy 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content, and of course your jeep!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@DevonBagley
@DevonBagley Жыл бұрын
You can brake drag in a manual, it's just more difficult for inexperienced drivers. Once you have the coordination with the pedals down it becomes muscle memory, but there are things that can be installed to help too like hand controls for the pedals.
@smileyguyz
@smileyguyz 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience wheeling cars without a low range, I'd say automatic all day. (I used to drive the hell out of my 01 Ford Escape lol) I've had friends in manual Foresters and that kind of thing. It's basically a new clutch for every trail.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes!
@danielmembrillo6472
@danielmembrillo6472 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Can always tell who has manual on the trail when the entire driveline unhinges when clutch pushed in. hard to modulate on rocks in the jk....also the clutch doesn't have good feel via the pedal. I am planning on swapping it out for something heavier so I can feather clutch easier on big obstacles. Thoughts>=?
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I was talking to Marco with the OverlandX Jeep with a 6 speed and he went with the Centerforce weighted flywheel and performance clutch system and really likes it. That seems to be a great way to go. I'll look into that as well at some point.
@svenskfox
@svenskfox 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative vid, thanks!
@texastackycal7979
@texastackycal7979 2 жыл бұрын
I will always love off road ing !!! But i will never get rock crawling . It’s so expensive just to travel 9 feet . 😂.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of true 🤣
@ipdjbt
@ipdjbt 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I bought my 2015 the 6 speed was a no brainer vs the 5 speed auto. Nowadays I'd definitely get the 8 speed. Funny you mentioned swapping for the ZF, I'd love to see what's involved!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
ME TOO!
@charlesboetel1324
@charlesboetel1324 2 жыл бұрын
I had the zf in a ram truck, it would not hold 1st going down hill. My 6 sp jk was good, but I swapped in a tremec 4050 5 speed with a 6.16 1st gear. Rock crawling I prefer a manual with 100 to 1 reduction, sand and hillclimbing the auto is better. My old cj would come down lionsback in 2nd gear low range on the throttle slightly, no braking. Very confidence inspiring.
@yrootberg
@yrootberg 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 jk with the auto and a grand with the 3.6 paired with the ZF 8HP transmission and the grand is so much faster and responsive with that transmission. I also have that 8hp on another car and love it. Didn’t know there is an upgrade path to put that 8hp on the jk. I would think that would be better money spent then on a turbo or super charger.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be tricky for this application to convert from manual to auto so I’ll just keep it that way.
@danfurber2389
@danfurber2389 2 жыл бұрын
I’m really interested in the 8speed for the JK. I’m looking at what JeepSpeedShop has as a kit but would really love to see you do a piece on this. My 2017JKUR is with 4.56 gears and 35s but I have a trailer coming and think this transmission upgrade would be fantastic. Thanks for all you do!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! We'll see what shakes out.
@jacobcow111
@jacobcow111 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@PaulKaiser42
@PaulKaiser42 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I had no idea that they drag their brakes like that….going to change the way I drive..thank you for that👊🏻👊🏻. Would you ever think about a r2.8 swap??
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Not for my Jeep. Impossible to stay street legal in CA with that. I’m a V8 gas guy anyway.
@PaulKaiser42
@PaulKaiser42 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits well yeah I knew that but I did not think you would ever be able to keep a hemi Cali legal
@outlawrydr
@outlawrydr 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious if you have any fans with the edlebrock supercharger added on. My 2016 is in the 6spd Manual. Thinking of getting this upgrade
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I do know a guy with the edelbrock super charger and he's happy with it. The only downside is that it requires super unleaded fuel all the time and gets substantially less gas mileage... even when he "babies" it around town or on the highway.
@louistiches4810
@louistiches4810 2 жыл бұрын
What fails first in either transmission? Like, if a manual overheats, will the clutch fail first? To me, I have never had to replace a torque converter. It sounds harder than a clutch/flywheel/etc. Could a hobbyist rebuild an automatic transmission?
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Automatics overheat. Manual transmission clutches are a wear item and need replacing. The normal garage mechanic should not attempt an automatic trans rebuild, leave that to the professionals.
@rogercanady6227
@rogercanady6227 2 жыл бұрын
I'm torn on this. I have an 05 TJ Rubicon with the 6 speed manual. In the rocks, in 4 low, my 1st gear manual has a more controlled crawl than most of the auto TJR/JKUR/JLURs I run with. I know the 4:1 T-case changes the deal with non rubis but it seems like my buddies in the auto lurch much more. In traffic, F the manual!!!
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking any lurching with an auto trans in 4lo is driver input
@charlesboetel1324
@charlesboetel1324 2 жыл бұрын
Get a tremec 4050, your crawl will be 120ish to 1, hiway rpms will drop with the .74 od ratio.
@oneshotpete6.591
@oneshotpete6.591 2 жыл бұрын
now we’re talking !! the TR 4050 is in a whole different arena especially mated with a atlas t case
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting suggestion, I’ll start some research!
@danielmembrillo6472
@danielmembrillo6472 2 жыл бұрын
What would be cost to install on a jk?
@dinkydotzero
@dinkydotzero 2 жыл бұрын
So youre saying we need to hemi swap the JK? Im down Ive done two LS swaps on my last two JKs it it makes the trail turds fun to drive
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to do that... not sure it's in the cards but who knows!
@LetsBuildaWillysJeep
@LetsBuildaWillysJeep 2 жыл бұрын
Manual Transmission 💯%
@dethwsh128
@dethwsh128 2 жыл бұрын
What radio in the JK? Howd you get the MPHs in the radio?
@Harey0407
@Harey0407 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure that turbo encabulation is exactly the same process as an automatic transmission, but what do I know. Also thoughts on the older 3.8l V6 vs the 3.6l V6?
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was meant as a joke... it's just funny. There are many improvements from the 3.8 to 3.6 and that is why I picked that one. I don't know much about the 3.8 other than my buddies at the time I was shopping for the Jeep said to get the 3.6.
@Harey0407
@Harey0407 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits Don't worry I got the joke (apparently me working with the joke didn't work as well as I hoped), looked that joke up out of curiosity once, dates further back than that old video even. I think it was like back into the 40s. Always funny to watch though!
@StormbornJKU
@StormbornJKU 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, automatic is far superior for off-road use. On road I definitely prefer to drive a manual though. But to each their own. People make both work. All depends on the driver mod as well haha
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Driver mod is the most important...LOL!
@_EleventHour
@_EleventHour 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, I was wondering how you are liking the Hookeroad hood latches that you have on the Jeep? Are they holding up? Do you notice a reduction in hood flutter on the highway or on windy days?
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
So far they are great… the hood doesn’t even budge on the freeway so that’s a win. Let’s see how long they stay looking good.
@qasimalsaidi
@qasimalsaidi 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Hmm supercharger. Sounds delicious
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
YES it does!
@dustyweasel41
@dustyweasel41 2 жыл бұрын
Having around 17 Jeep’s thus far, the automatic is by far the best off-road. More specifically, I can sip my coffee as I wheel way easier. 🤪
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of Jeeps!
@dustyweasel41
@dustyweasel41 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits from a 1943 MB all the way up to a 2010 jku. It’s a good kind of sickness...I noticed you said” a lot of Jeep’s”, and nit too many. This means you may be infected as well. Haha
@tdog-jy1pp
@tdog-jy1pp 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of transmission do u recomend for a 2nd gen dakota(if im to ever have the money to fix) manual or automatic, and do you have any tips for someone who wants to learn how to drive manual?
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
It's always easier to keep the same type of transmission rather than converting so if it had an automatic stick with that... I'll bet you'll see some 545rfe transmissions on the market at a reasonable price soon.
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned two JK's, one with a manual, and one with an auto. The manual was a 3.8L, and the auto is a 3.6L. The 3.6 IMO is a great engine, and is SO much better than the 3.8L was. The WA580 in the JK (US JK's never had the 545FE, which was a 3sp with a double overdrive) is actually a Mercedes transmission, and is super durable. The old 42RLE in the 3.8L JK's was garbage. Bad gearing and they failed regularly. I also find I have no issues with torque in my 3.6/Auto JK. I live up here in the mountains, I regularly drive up over 10K FT altitude. My old 3.8L Manual JK was ok. It certainly lacked power, and the manual was a way better option there compared to the 42RLE. One thing that people often don't take into account is that manuals (on any platform) need to be over geared. If you hear the engine knocking when under load, you are under geared (regardless of the engine). Really, if running tires over 35" in a JK, a manual really needs an atlas behind it for a second lower low range. A Rubicon can get away with 35's and 4.88's with the 4:1 low range. And as you note, heat is an issue with autos. I never had to worry about that with my manuals. Thankfully the JK has an internal temp readout for the transmission, and I tend to keep that up when offroad. And when climbing really steep grades (we have a second of the state HWY with a 26% grade here) the trans will get up over 230F. Which is on the high side, and I will pull over with the engine running in gear to let it cool (going to park causing it to heat up as the pump stops). So I need to add a larger aux cooler (I have the factory one that comes with the max tow package).
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree about the 3.6 being good in the JK. Like I said in the video, it's only "fine". It's pretty fun and qualifies as good in the mini van platforms and other cars it's utilized in. Just my opinion. Plus, if I had to pull over to let it cool down climbing a grade without towing, I would consider that a failure of the components to maintain proper operation and add another (or larger) external cooler immediately like you mentioned. I see plenty of people making the 3.6 and WA580 combo work great for extreme off roading so I know it's plenty capable. It's just not what I like. I'm not sure how much has changed internally and tune-wise from the JK to the JL but the 3.6 feels dramatically better now. Much better throttle response and actually feels "lively"... precisely what I'm missing in mine. But I get where you're coming from.
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits The 8sp auto does make a big difference for the 3.6 as the gears are much shorter. Longer gears suit lower RPM torque engines, but not a DOHC engine like the 3.6L. The JL version is slightly different. The compression is a bit higher. Though both engines hate forced induction. The 3.6L we have has 10.2:1 compression, and the JL is 11:3. And admittedly, the grade here is a very extreme case. Its the steepest state HWY in North America (26% grade is no joke), and its at high altitude, where cooling is less efficient due to the thinner air. Its the only place I have ever had trans temp issues.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stuka87 AHHH! Interesting to hear the JL 3.6 having such a higher compression ratio!!! That is indicative of many other things done to accommodate that and does explain the more responsive feel it has. I honestly wonder how difficult (and legal) it would be to get my 3.6 updated to JL engine specs. Seriously... you have got me so intrigued by this. It literally makes enough difference to me that I would finally stop whining about my JK 3.6... LOL
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits There should not be any legal issues at all as its a newer engine. California in most cases allows engine swaps provided the engine is of a newer model year, and retains the same emissions that it came with. Thats how V8 swaps are done here in CA, but also why they are expensive. What's interesting is Jeep rates both of them at the same power. But I swear a JL feels more powerful. Even if both the JK and JL are manuals (different manuals, NSG370 vs Aisin D478).
@JimmyDevere
@JimmyDevere 2 жыл бұрын
You sound knowledgeable on the manual and gearing topic. I am thinking about getting a Wrangler Sport with manual transmission (because they are less expensive and fun to drive). What gear ratio would you recommend for HWY and general off roading? Tire size 33, 34 or 35 but no bigger. Thanks!
@libertystuffnthingsreviews829
@libertystuffnthingsreviews829 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer choosing my gears too.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Pick them gears!
@alfansomendoza8556
@alfansomendoza8556 2 жыл бұрын
So ive been watching your channel for a long time, my question to you is do u like the tahoe better than the wj you had years ago? N if so why?
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Great question! I like the reliability of the Tahoe but everything else WAY better about that old WJ. If someone offered a trade for a nice one … I’d do it in a hot second. Does that answer your question 🤣
@KJsProjects
@KJsProjects 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a V8 swap is in your future Jason.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish for that!
@hollow9875
@hollow9875 2 жыл бұрын
Weird question but how tall are you I want to lift my Tahoe and put 35 but I don’t know how tall it will be and it looks pretty good unless you 6ft 8
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’10”
@kennethstephens8046
@kennethstephens8046 2 жыл бұрын
What ever happened to the ram? I must’ve missed a video.
@JoseOrtiz_1416
@JoseOrtiz_1416 2 жыл бұрын
He sold it to someone close to him
@JoseOrtiz_1416
@JoseOrtiz_1416 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it was 2 videos ago the breakdown of the garage along with the mustang being gone
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I did sell it to a friend... the "help me youtube..." video explains that. (sad face)
@davedonedis
@davedonedis 2 жыл бұрын
I hate watching guys hit the “reset” pedal on the trail. You are right tho, the JK auto is horrible! It’s the only reason I plan to LS swap my JK. Also, you’d have to LS swap a JK as you can’t put an older engine in a vehicle.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
What is the reset pedal? I would love a V8 Jeep, either way might just be out of the cards for me in California though.
@davedonedis
@davedonedis 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits the one all the way to the left, guys push it, everything unloads and resets the line choice.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
@@davedonedis Ah, gotcha
@desertadventures4221
@desertadventures4221 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tylerchewy3400
@tylerchewy3400 2 жыл бұрын
Completely bypass the cooler in the radiator. If the cooler or radiator fails bye bye transmission. Just go to external coolers
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the factory external cooler on my Ram… never let the trans fluid get too hot.
@pepper_Chill
@pepper_Chill 2 жыл бұрын
Mind u,alot of jeep drivers,use there E-Brake....in a manual...
@silentjde
@silentjde 2 жыл бұрын
Would you V8 swap the JK with an auto swapped in.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I would like a V8 for sure but the internet might freak out if I convert a manual Jeep to automatic... lol
@silentjde
@silentjde 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits well, you would be the first person to do it, haha
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
lol!
@projectcarz4798
@projectcarz4798 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the silver third gen
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Sold that a few years ago to a young dude that intended to stuff a big block in there.
@projectcarz4798
@projectcarz4798 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits ah, I loved that third gen is honestly a large reason why I bought two as project cars
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
@@projectcarz4798 It’s a phenomenal platform and looks cool as heck.
@RandomVelocity
@RandomVelocity 2 жыл бұрын
Stick shift all the way … much more fun and engaging but I hate that pinging engine in my Jeep. 2011 3.8L …ugh what a dog.
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Look into the HP tuners software for that.
@RandomVelocity
@RandomVelocity 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoEdits thanks
@sumdumguy7197
@sumdumguy7197 6 ай бұрын
Autostick is the best
@donhgr
@donhgr 2 жыл бұрын
Automatic all the way
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@yodawg3469
@yodawg3469 2 жыл бұрын
Traffic is the only downfall of a manual
@AutoEdits
@AutoEdits 2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, but the JK clutch is so easy that it doesn't really bother me.
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