AUTOMATING a Beaver Colony with Timberbots in Timberborn! | Ep 3

[@patrikhjorth3291]

Beavers getting dirty in the hot tub, skinning cats... I thought this was a family friendly channel! 😱

[@iankoladay]

Most of the episode I could swear I was expecting to hear..."places the powershafts underneath the roads where they belong."

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Ha - that's a perfect next step!

[@HeyGuyBuddy]

@@CityPlannerPlays I was thinking you could do double wide roads to mark out public utility corridors. Then half the paths could be dedicated to overhead power.

[@ThisTinSoldier]

That is actually totally plausible. Just need to dynamite your paths one by one and drop in your power lines. You can even put water under your paths at the same time! Where it belongs! ^_^

[@_hltn]

I like to open water canals with dynamite, put power shafts underwater and then construct platforms with roads over it. With this you can plan your highways, deliver water to green up terrain and distribute power in one go.

[@notsolm]

​@@CityPlannerPlays You can also drop the base of the windmills down a level so all of their power connections are below ground. Works nicely for the mudbaths too as the entrance can be at "ground" level

[@andipandabear1]

I swear you made more progress in 3 episodes of this game than almost any other KZbinr I watch has made in like 20 episodes

[@endymionselene165]

He's either cutting alot inbetween parts or not recording large portions.

[@shimshamhotdamn1556]

@@endymionselene165 likely both for better viewing but still only cycle 16 by the end of it

[@daltonbedore8396]

you should see skye storme's current series

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Ha! I get sucked into doing a ton. Each episode is about 3 1/2 hours of live playthrough. That's one of the reasons the pace is so quick, too. I had a TON of fun making these! Such a great game!

[@Angimit]

@@CityPlannerPlays I played non stop 5 hours and i havent even unlocked paper yet

[@mattveslino252]

This is SUCH a good series, and a good game, Phil! I NEED this to come into your regular rotation, it's a good, yet similar-feeling reprieve from C:S, but it's also partially whackier what with beavers being the central focus and everything. It's also just well-developed and fun, and watching your approach to Timberborn is always great!

[@Idontknowwhattocallmyself]

yeah i love this game but there is eventually a maximum. you could keep decorating and maximizing productivity but i think he would just have to restart every month or so which is not very fun

[@jase_allen]

@@Idontknowwhattocallmyself Not to mention he'd have to sacrifice one of his current Cities: Skylines series or slow down the time tables in order to make room for a Timberborn series. The man can only do so much.

[@pixxa37]

@@jase_allen Timberborn is way more interesting (at least right now) than Cities: Skyline which has been done and redone to death!

[@CarnivalBen]

I have a tip for you: if you build a small water storage right next to each of your housing blocks and set it to "obtain"... the beavers generally grab a drink of water when they all wake up, so if you have a water storage right next to the housing then they don't have to walk right across the map to get a drink, they can grab a drink straight away and get on with their day.... just saves that extra bit of beaver work-time.

[@PhiloSage]

I put a small storage of food right outside the residences too, then have the food and water set to accept from storage so they are always full

[@npersichetti]

My wife and I love watching your Timberborn videos! While I try to get her into CS, we hope to see more from the Bluffside Beavers or a new colony!

[@LorBell]

You can almost feel his enthusiasm for this game, which is pretty cool.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

This is one of the few games that I have loved within 5 minutes of playing it. Such a strange concept, but it's SO good!

[@michaelpporter]

One note: you only need 2 bot assembler per set of parts. Parts are every 18 hours/ 2 every 36 hours. Builders take 36 hours. The extra assembler will cause one to wait as it will take parts from the other two.

[@Perrocko]

So you could have 1 part maker each and 2 bot assembler?

[@visigoth4602]

Having the timberbots doing the work feels like it will either lead to Skynet or the beavers getting placed into the Beavtrix.

[@patrikhjorth3291]

"As soon as we started building _for_ you, it really became _our_ beaver dam."

[@grapheist612]

Funny thing is, the game lets you continue with only timberbots, even if all your beavers die. I tested it recently.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

[@crimsonhawk52]

the question of what to do with all your beavers once all the workforce is automated is a very important question that we're going to need to come up with an answer to sooner rather than later

[@PhiloSage]

To get max happiness, 59, no beavers can be working.

[@thr3308]

one thing I will note about automating labor is that employment is required for beavers' maximum wellbeing, so you'll want to make sure they have something productive to do for at least part of the day

[@ramont8020]

Unless I missed a change in update 3, that's not actually the case. If you click on beaver you can see all the things that contribute to their wellbeing, how much of a bonus they give and what the targets are for the next tier of productivity/speed/longevity. Employment is not one of those things. A beaver can happily lay around all day and max out at 59 (for folktails) wellbeing while the bots do all the work. Having said that, a max wellbeing beaver is more productive than a catalyst powered bot (150% vs 90%) so unless the job has a high injury rate (explosive factory, bot assembly) or benefits from a large carrying capacity (haulers, distribution post) you will still want happy beavers beavering away. Water pumping and construction jobs allocated to either at your discretion as needs dictate.

[@dirtyharrie]

Sad to see so little views on the Timberborn videos. Really enjoy these ones.

[@rebeccaeash1241]

It would be interesting to see you play the game currently as districts have changed

[@aaavellone]

A possible water solution, the river that starts in your city and goes down the mountain, it eventually falls into a large lake. If you keep going straight from the last water fall close to there are cliffs and the river narrows to go through the cliffs. If you put flood gates there you'll control the water for a large chunk of map and you'll never have to worry about keeping water around there.

[@snowfloofcathug]

Only found an appetite for this game today and your playthrough of it has been amazing so far! I'm excited to see what more you do with it

[@TheRedWon]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for more timberborn! Maybe a slower-paced series in the future.

[@hydrus6782]

28:00 "It's over-engineered" RCE would be proud ! Though he would also note the abscence of strongest shapes.

[@chloefranzyneoquendo8234]

He's family friendly though lol

[@Grumpyk1d]

I'm going to miss these videos. I hope you get to play Timberborn more in the future

[@thena_ditey]

Definitely interested in seeing this as a regular series. So much fun watching you build a timberbot empire.

[@GJ203]

I'm not sure why, but I've come to enjoy your Timberborn videos even more than your Cities Skylines videos, please keep it up!

[@Matthew-od2zl]

Although more apparent in the previous episode, the gravity batteries visible after the sponsor message or selected at 23:07 have no safety for the beavers walking past on the path. Would having a platform above the path add that extra sense of realism even if it isn't actually a real problem? Tbh, this is more of a visual fix than a gameplay one. Thanks for the video as always.

[@wm-nu1yf]

Love your Timberborn videos. Please keep going with this series. I love your skylines stuff too, but something about the beavers just fascinates me.

[@onemanzu]

Great video. You want both fuel types for the bots, one is base fuel, one is “over charged” fuel. Good use of a single district! I love maps around the 128x128 size where you can have a single district and get to almost everything. I’m playing the same one as RCE right now, but have been thinking about going back to this map. Would love to see you tame the river on this map!

[@PauxloE]

I think you don't need to delete the died dandelions (or blueberries), but can just build on top of them. Unless you want your building beavers feel more needed, of course.

[@iankoladay]

An easy place to hide storage is under your producer buildings. This gives you a buffer in the beginning and then later you could create a storage tower with walkways on the outside..... totally safe

[@CityPlannerPlays]

That's a great idea!

[@ThisTinSoldier]

One observatory is plenty. It churns out research WAY faster than you expect and if you just leave it cranking while you work on other stuff, your research points will pretty much take care of themselves

[@richardlanglois172]

Hi Phil, love the Timberborn series. My factory is so big my comupter is bogging down, lol. You built too many bot assemblers for your part factories. If you check the production times, it takes 18hrs to make one set of parts (one chasis, one head, 4 limbs), and 36hrs to assemble a bot. Thus you can have three factories and two assemblers and all the production lines math our evenly, without any need for storage at all. Oh, also, you can stack the factories, and put one of the assemblers on top. Makes a big metal tower, lol. Regarding the bot life-cycle: - Bots require biofuel each day. Catalyst makes them go even faster than they already do. Without biofuel, they walk slow, like an injured beaver, and look only for biofuel, they won't do work. Catalyst bumps them to max bonus (+90% work speed, +60% walk speed). - Bots live exactly 100 days (or, rather, 100 biofuel refills, but they do that once a day). At the end of 100 days, they break down and must be replaced. You don't recover parts, and they can't be repaired; they have to be replaced by a new bot from the factories/assemblers (and of course, each new bot needs a chasis, head, and four limbs).

[@davidkalisch7168]

Twiddling my beaver thumbs with nowhere to take my paper! This is fun!😀

[@Onionslime]

I use the bots to create new districts without needing to reproduce everything from the first district.

[@tomzitiger]

Can you make a short extra episode where you build a leisure city for the non-working beavers?

[@Victoura56]

In two episodes you’ve gotten further than all other KZbinrs I’ve seen, so please keep going with this series! Perhaps you could try to perfect your settlement, maintain maximum wellbeing for your beavers, or have the goal of making the whole map green? Who knows, but I’m excited for the next episode!

[@PinkGrapefruit22]

My thinking is that once you've automated things enough, you just focus on building as many leisure facilities for your beavers as possible, drop their work day down to like four hours for any that are still working, and then let the beavers live a life of pure luxury while the bots do all the labor. Just see how high you can get that beaver well-being score (I've got mine up in the upper-50s currently).

[@hanzzel6086]

Folktails max out at 59.

[@PinkGrapefruit22]

@@hanzzel6086 Okay.

[@joshinio]

You could put “bluffside” in the title of any series and I’ll watch it until the bitter end

[@CityPlannerPlays]

[@Nemusplanta]

all the engineers when he blocks the water flow:those planners they never learn

[@whatlisasaid]

no one does Timberborn like Phil! so happy you got sponsored for these trio of videos, and hoping you’ll continue with it!

[@thesyzygy3704]

You can backfill the terraforming hole with dirt and just place the excavator right back where it was after you backfill it, just a useful tip

[@hanzzel6086]

Why? It has unlimited dirt production.

[@markwarner5554]

Do you want timber-terminators? Because that's how you get timber-terminators.

[@jase_allen]

29:22 Phil has it backwards. The bots require biofuel to function. If they run out of fuel, they will stop working. The catalyst acts as a bonus.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

[@flobiish]

Late in the video you asked about getting rid of regular beavers. In my current save, I've nearly gotten rid of the regular beavers. I'm afraid to get rid of all of them because...game over? But, I've got two incubation chambers running which keeps about 30 beavers around. They supply all their own needs except power and wood (for cooking), including farmers, water pumps, aquatic farmers, bakers and grillers, etc. My ironbots provide everything for themselves, so yeah, very possible to get rid of regular beavers, except maybe triggering the fail game end sequence.

[@Venntex]

This series is going nice!! Also, water does not leak from sides, its just a visual bug I think :)

[@elify__]

Such a fast progress! Can't wait for the ep.4 😄

[@darknight910]

I'd love to see a look at what the Iron Teeth beavers get in this new update, do a little 3 episode check out of them too.

[@NeonNijahn]

Beaver existential crisis alert!

[@arnomrnym6329]

Since you unlocked the underground pile you should change all the medium piles with it. 😉 The excavator works in water too. So you can use it for extending your reservoires. 😉

[@rha600]

bit of a heads up on the distances and reaching out from the town hall. The sidewalks are one square per square but the steps are two per staircase so whenever you can eliminate steps you need to do so. for example at your excavator you have it going down two steps and then back up one, instead go down one staircase and then build platforms across and you would save distance.

[@grapheist612]

Is this still the case? I eliminated some stairways in my game a few days ago and it didn’t make a difference. I didn’t pay close attention to it though, so maybe I misremembered how far I could reach. Then again, I only needed two blocks and I didn’t get any, or so I thought.

[@rha600]

@@grapheist612 I keep meaning to test this and I keep forgetting. Maybe when I get home I will try and I'll let you know if you haven't tried it yourself by now.

[@donarnold2249]

Thanks again 👍

[@khairunhafiz7908]

Bless you Phil!!!

[@andywest1788]

Enjoying this series. Thanks

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Thank you!! Glad to hear it!

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

To be fair, if water mechanics had improved then the massive flow created by the water escaping through flood gates would be enough to easily power the wheels. A river is less powerful rl.

[@tiffanymarie9750]

"more paths (⁠ʘ⁠ᴗ⁠ʘ⁠✿⁠)" has become my mantra after watching your timberborn videos.

[@PWNDON]

I'm probably gonna play Timberborn now, I already owned it but I've been wanting to see some of the updates like injury and robots for myself

[@MrDanAng1]

I like the world created here... the only main thing I would do differently if I got access to this particular game is moving (or adding) gravity batteries to some places with wastly higher kinetic potential. Where the gravity batteries are now, the weights can only drop 4 or 5 tiles. There is a few places with about 10 tiles of drop, which would double the capacity of the batteries.

[@nikolajtttrup3427]

No more vids in the series?😓😭

[@brigidtheirish]

I think beavers wouldn't be happy if they didn't have any work to do. I like the idea of automating hauling or the potentially hazardous jobs like the various factories, but I'd probably keep beavers as farmers at the least.

[@titaniadioxide6133]

You keep adding storage units to keep beavers working, but that doesn’t fix the core issues. The job priority feature is helpful, but there’s still some micromanagement needed. Once you have baked potatoes to last you a couple seasons, it seems you just need to pause the building and let the beaver do something else. It’s not clear if you _have_ enough paper/food/wood, but at some point a bigger store won’t be helpful.

[@simongeard4824]

Yea, if you've got a reasonable amount of storage and it's filling up, it's a sign that you're either overproducing or underconsuming...

[@cartercook5363]

Awesome videos hi lights of my day😊

[@t91productions53]

Love the videos

[@James-hp3jo]

Great series, Have you decided to play the Steel Tooth faction next?

[@John_Smith420]

Love this content

[@powfoom1087]

Love it!!!

[@PhoenixWwrong]

Is this game actually as fast pace as he made it out to be? I feel overwhelmed just watching.

[@feelthevibes2596]

Sooo the timberbots can build themself AND the fuel they need to run? Jup, the revolution is fast approaching. 🤖

[@grapheist612]

The only building you can’t set to beaverbots is the district center. However, if you have hauling posts and builders’ huts, you can pause your district center, making your entire colony automated and every beaver unemployed in a bacchanalian utopia. I also tested this a few days ago - the game will continue if all the beavers die. You can have a game exclusively populated by bots.

[@urkerab]

I believe bots also refuse to be shamed.

[@PhiloSage]

The bots work in district center, just need to spend initial science.

[@grapheist612]

@@PhiloSage I’m pretty sure they can’t. The only thing you can do is to set the default for new buildings connected to that district, but that doesn’t change who works at the district.

[@ramont8020]

@@grapheist612 Bots definitely can work in district centres, it's just buggy switching between the 2 which could have given you the impression that it doesn't work.

[@grapheist612]

@@ramont8020 Ah, it appears I stand corrected! Thanks!

[@TrevorKoch1982]

Long time viewer, small* request. Will you build a beautifully planned Terrarium 50x50 beaver map? please.

[@lxttlebird8100]

Don't think I've ever been this early! Woooo! Hi Phil!

[@CityPlannerPlays]

[@jynx2501]

One thing I want to try is when Bots become efficient enough can you just delete all of the houses, get rid of all the Beavers and have nothing but a 100% bot Society.

[@justinsinke2088]

You have nearly 3K food in storage at the start of the episode (and nearly 9K by the end, that's a lot of food), I don't think you really need more food storage. If anything, you're overproducing food and could increase your population (frankly if anything I'd say you're lighter on water storage than you should be, but I'm also the person who shuts off all my pumps during drought and lives off the storage until the drought ends). I believe beavers only eat about 2 units of food per day last I researched, though they may grab more to fulfill needs, not sure. So if that holds, and you have 73 beavers who eat 2 units of food a day, that's 146 units of food per day, meaning you have...18 days worth of stockpile. Hmm...not as much as I thought honestly, but that's still 18 days you could go without harvesting any food whatsoever and still be fine, and if you're maxing out your storage quickly, that means you're still producing a fair bit more than you're consuming, which is good, but if you're never really needing to draw from the stockpiles, there's not much reason to have even more storage. Honestly, having food production as a perfect equilibrium is actually something of a dangerous position, as then if there's any hiccups (or population spikes), you're running a deficit on food, and that (along with water) is the last thing you want to be running a deficit on. If you want bodies to work things like construction and you have an excess of food you're running low on storage for, you could just turn your farms off to free up the workers, have hungry beavers pull from storage until you hit a certain threshold, then turn your farms back on. Or maybe have only 1 beaver instead of 2 working the farms to slow down their production rate which should also mitigate work downtime if fewer hands are working the job. At around the 24 minute mark, when you found buildings were out of range, that issue is preventable. It's also why you want to build your paths first before any structures, as if the completed paths exist first, you'll see if the district line connects during building placement, so you know before committing to the building whether or not it's close enough. I'm...confused as to why you used large warehouses for your bot parts. It's not like you need parts for repairs (that I'm aware of), and the idea is to turn those parts into bots, so there's literally no need for such massive storage, as those parts should be turned into bots as fast as you're making them until you have enough bots to do the jobs you want. In their current state, to my understanding, they also live forever, they just need power otherwise they refuse to work jobs, so once you have built what you need, there's not really a need to build more until you want to expand your operations/districts. I don't recall anything about the bots breaking down or getting injured (which is another bot benefit, working factory buildings without the risk of injury), but maybe I missed something in the patch notes there. Also you got it backwards; timberbots need biofuel base, and catalyst is a booster; it's their sole "wellbeing" bonus, as it were. You can easily check how many beavers/bots are employed/open jobs/unemployed by the graphic in the upper left under the wellbeing number. The first bar show adult beavers, kits, and bots. Below that is beavers with beds, spare beds, and homeless beavers, below that is employed beavers, open jobs, and unemployed beavers, and below that is the same for the bots. So at the 42 minute mark when you looked to see if there was any unemployed bots, you could just look at that corner to see you had no unemployed bots and 12 jobs set for bots that lacked workers. As an aside, watching this map be played, I kinda hope they take a cue from the gravity batteries and make platform elevators for beavers. Sure, it might require some tweaks to the beavers pathfinding AI, but I think with the verticality of building that the developers say is something of a core feature, that some kind of elevator would look nicer and work better than massive networks of stairway paths. At least once you have the science to unlock it and materials to build it.

[@maxreyes3787]

Where is episode 4 😢?

[@garrettwebb271]

22:40 Little Awkward places can actually be kinda useful sometimes because you can toss a bush into them and forget about it while buffing the beavers.

[@TheRealAko]

I know this is a long time ago, but I like to have just 60 beavers who do all my building and hauling with everything else being bots

[@Natalie-it9ji]

I love this ❤

[@PauxloE]

"There is only one job robots can't do, and that is science" - the powerwheels are also beaver-only, but usually at this point in the game one shouldn't be needing them anymore. I think your robots also occasionally need biofuel when running, not just catalyst. Terraforming: I think it would make sense if an dynamite explosion produced a portion of dirt to be used later for dirt blocks, not just having it disappear. But I guess that is a bit annoying early in game when you have the dynamite but not the robots.

[@cragnamorra]

Dirt Excavation: so, just for creating build-able area for industry, housing, etc, platforms (or levees/dams in some places) work fine; don't need the dirt for that. Seems to me the real value of dirt the is the ability to create water-able areas for planting additional crops & trees, as well as the few "ground-only" buildings like piles & campfires (altough it's usually not hard to find an existing spot for the latter). Am I missing something? I might very well be...am not yet far enough along in my own first playthrough to have gotten bots running.

[@lorenzopappatico]

I think this update might be a tale from Isaac Asimov. The only thing left now is finding Det. Del Spooner

[@Akapolia]

Why is the Industrial Revolution happening on day 3

[@NelsonGuedes]

29 sounds like automated luxury beaver communism! 😂

[@j-fiz8933]

Yay more beavers 🦫 lol

[@timvangrijs2095]

Make it your mission to get the well-being of the beavers to the highest possible. You could also try building your own map as well. Make a mega battery by putting batteries along the edge of the excavators hole once it runs out of dirt.

[@NIGHTMARE70777]

Suggestion for new series and new game "The Oregon Trail" very nice strategy game i think you need to try

[@barnabasschenk4507]

Why don't you build the stairs right on top of the transmission gears?

[@ander4163]

their publicity workd, i bought it yesterday and already played 10+ hours xd. I see it a bit repetitive and its the same always. Dont get me wrong it is very nice and enjoyable. Also i would like to be able to make or sownload custom maps, as this would make the game more interesting, having variety. Oh and maybe a bit of a nerf on robots? Theyre too OP...

[@jimbosaurus]

Fully Automated Luxury Beaver Communism is definitely the endgame here. Have all the actual labor being done by beaverbots, freeing up the actual beaver proletariat for recreation, science, expansion to new areas of the map, etc.

[@PhiloSage]

That is the only way you can get the maximum happiness of 59.

[@ChibiChula]

Hmm... Robots taking over the world. Yeah, it could happen. Someday we could find ourselves in a Terminator style situation, or even worse, a Matrix type situation. 👀💦

[@soloxcan]

Machines making machines. The beavers will soon have a butlerian jihad

[@GJ203]

Fully automated luxury beaver communism!

[@SynSpiderz]

Putting the beaverbots in charge of high explosives. What could possibly go wrong? Not like you could get a Beaver-ator, right?

[@billgringhuis]

Beavers make bots... Bots make more bots... This is how SKYNET happens.

[@nimitta1347]

Request you to continue the Timberborn videos.

[@barneystinson2781]

The part factories can stack iirc

[@paytonpryor]

I haven't been able to catch your live streams cause of work. Ate you still working or have to transitioned to KZbin now?

[@TownScaperVT]

You’re putting the refinery right next to a high density residential area? What is this New Jersey?

[@whollylostandgone]

Is the dam bluffside crossing?

[@Jadushnew]

You did not give this episode a number! I hope it's just a mistake - the trend of giving episodes of a series just a clickbaity name but no number really is confusing to me.

[@CityPlannerPlays]

Got that fixed - sorry about that!

[@Jadushnew]

@@CityPlannerPlays That was quick :D Nothing to be sorry about, and thanks alot :) EDIT: Of coruse I also meant a general trend to give clickbaity titles - your video titles and the videos themselves are fine! :)

[@lukehart2420]

Is it possible to build a levee on top of a platform?

[@PhiloSage]

No, I wish though.

[@lukehart2420]

Is it possible to use one of the modded levees 3x1 or 3x2 and cap a one levee gap at the bottom and then build on top?

[@BenvanAssema]

🖖

[@denali6935]

The thumbnail is actually quite terrifying

[@westenellingson3925]

One thing that a person doesn’t think about is having bots in the hauling post. Once I get one full hauling post my buildings hardly ever stop unless full.

[@dag_larsson]

I know it's stupid, but as a tree nerd and landscape architect it is really painful how the trees which are so central to the game are so poorly illustrated. Especially the "pines" which so obviously are spruce or at least fir trees, and definitely not pines. The chestnut icon also looks like horse chestnut and not sweet chestnut, not really a big deal if it wasn't for the fact that horse chestnuts are poisonous.

[@PhiloSage]

Developers are polish so the trees are modeled after European species.

[@dag_larsson]

@@PhiloSage No, that's not the problem. I'm northern European and they have still mixed up the basic characters of different families.

[@PhiloSage]

@@dag_larsson can always provide them feedback, they are always begging for feedback about the game.

[@quakerdevil08]

You really need to pay attention to your unemployed population numbers. For much of the episode you had 10+ unemployed which is just a waste of workforce. Building more hauling posts than needed and set all of them to the lowest working priority with everything else as neutral. Everything else stays full, and new beavers automatically go into a super useful job.

[@C-J-Con]

If it's not already a thing the developers need to add a canal sistom and rafts to provide transportation up and down the rivers for Long distanced travel