Automatons AI UNSC Panama vs. Venator Star destroyer

[@ZEOCMF]

Go Panama! 📣

[@tombeer9]

Honestly a few well placed Mac shots from long range and this engagement is over before the venetor knows what hit them.

[@scorpionkiller19]

The panama was able to fire its MAC cannons in a few rounds and it was exactly as you said. A hole Straight through the whole ship. I hate that it didn't work in this one

[@jonumine6250]

We forget star wars have shields, so they would be more on par with the covenant tech than UNSC.

[@jonumine6250]

We forget star wars have shields, so they would be more on par with the covenant tech than UNSC.

[@SomeD00D01]

@@jonumine6250 not really

[@scorpionkiller19]

@@jonumine6250 it has shields in this fight too. The idea was that the MAC would take off or seriously lower the shields and even the playing field but when I couldn't get the AI to use the MAC I made the shields alot weaker as a nod to the fact the Mac would probably take them out.

[@heavensophia9382]

Luckily less than half the Panama's missiles are even headed in the right direction or the battle would be over sooner.

[@scorpionkiller19]

I know! I hated it i put so much work into their AI and event controllers and in the end i was just happy that the Venator didn't fly over the panama which it did in most of the previous battles

[@john_wack]

I suggest having the kinetic devastation mod to avoid planet clipping. You'll instead get a massive explosion on impact.

[@scorpionkiller19]

I'll check this out! I've never heard of it, but I'll admit seeing the bridge buried in a cavern was kind of cool.

[@scorpionkiller19]

That mod is LOUD! i wasnt expecting it lol

[@john_wack]

@@scorpionkiller19 ah yeah lol you can turn down the volume in the config file

[@richardcall7447]

I use the Kinetic Devastation mod myself, and the only thing that seems to be missing is the shockwave effects. The trees are still standing after the event.

[@scorpionkiller19]

@Terran Republic Shipyard I had a ship fall to earth with it, and I could see the impact from space. And trees were still there lol

[@valdemarsimonsen9612]

If the fighter wing of both ships where included the Venator would probably be guaranteed to win with how many it can carry. Ship to ship only the MAC cannon would tear the Venator apart from a safe distance

[@s1l3nt43]

Can’t beat good old ballistic weapons

[@darkelysium2187]

"Jedi can block lasers? Okay have fun with this BUCKSHOT" -The mandos

[@Illusiqn1st]

That Venator is literally only 1/3 of its original size lmao

[@mikssityar3363]

I have both these weapon packs installed in my server, and UNSC just wrecks everything. You really cant go wrong with good old kinetic munitions. Pair it with the Northwind weapons pack and load HE exclusively on all the guns, and nothing in a 5 kilometer radius is gonna get past you

[@theunknowngamer9405]

Although undergunned the Venator with some unconventional manuvers did put up a good fight but without the nerf I belive the Venator would win for sure.

[@scorpionkiller19]

Yea, sadly, the nerfs were nessicary. I believe the venator could win with one turret without them.

[@skylerstevens8887]

if you gave it the fighters it needed I think it would have done better.

[@spaceman-o1c]

yess great battle with 2 favorite ship UNSC for the win

[@zandlezGnz-yd6lv]

UNSC Panama is a mulsanne class frigate, it has no Mac but a laser insted

[@scorpionkiller19]

This version of Panama had two Mac cannons, but I made a video where I gave it a kingsword and it deletes a star destroyer

[@biinerfiiner]

Something oddly satisfying about this

[@coltonl9451]

This is the same exact shit I've been doing on this game and its been too much fun lol

[@Sinpsycle]

I'd like to see someone do the space battles in The Lost Fleet.

[@scorpionkiller19]

I'm not familiar, But if there are Blueprints on the workshop i can try to make it happen

[@Sinpsycle]

@@scorpionkiller19 Actually they're pretty massive. Involving big fleets at relativistic speeds, flinging kinetics, missiles, and lasers, but one can wish. If you like big space battles I highly recommend the series.

[@scorpionkiller19]

Oh well. Maybe next battle ill set up a bunch of lasers and missiles, I did a little research from your comment and it seems like a something i could get into.

[@richardcall7447]

It looks like the Panama got a bit perforated, but it still kicked ass!

[@scorpionkiller19]

Yea the panama was probably only a few shots from death. it couldn't have had much thrust left

[@CubeAtlantic]

That is interesting & kinda nice in my POV. 🏆✅️

[@Hog_trapper_97]

This archer missiles would have made me shit myself if I was that destroyer

[@scorpionkiller19]

I learned after recording this that the archer missles weren't set up properly by the mod author and did barely any damage. If they were working, this battle would have gone way differently!

[@scorpionkiller19]

I made this video a month ago and ive gotten 91 Subs since then. That is awesome. Ive had this channel for 15 years

[@lomejoggggg]

I feel like the energy cannon from the Panama was missing, but can't deny it's effectiveness

[@scorpionkiller19]

I did a version with the energy cannon vs a star destroyer. Here :kzbin.info9tNm0gYm3mU

[@lomejoggggg]

@@scorpionkiller19 Holy... Just saw it and... Those shield didn't lasted a second! It made the Venator look to be made out of paper

[@wolfgangjr74]

No real winners here as both are really mortally wounded.

[@scorpionkiller19]

I had to reshoot this a few times because typically they both got shot down. It certainly is a pyrrhic victory.

[@gregaryfritsch8871]

The venator shields are 100% useless against unsc weapons

[@custossecretus5737]

Well that was cool, can any fighters be added?

[@scorpionkiller19]

I will probably do a smaller battle with fighters.

[@scorpionkiller19]

Sorry I failed to answer the actual question. The pcu of each ship was about 100k so I was nervous adding more. The first battle the venator had fighters docked but they just got blown up and tumbled around inside of the venator.

[@Shinzon23]

​@@scorpionkiller19 thereby being the equivalent of a grenade in its guts?

[@scorpionkiller19]

Exactly

[@scorpionkiller19]

Would Spartans survive order 66?

[@WaitImillegal]

Maybe

[@NightBeWheat]

It depends. Spartan IIs have a really good chance. Spartan IIIs could survive, but with casualties. Spartan IVs would have some problems, but could.

[@shades_legion]

i would say it depends, but darth vader would give the Spartans one hell of a challenge

[@NightBeWheat]

​@@shades_legion (laughs in shotgun and flamethrower)

[@scorpionkiller19]

​@shades 27, it's important to note that in cannon, "slug throwers" (firearms) are hard to block with a lightsaber. The bullet goes through the lightsaber, but now it's molten metal. I feel like the best option would be to send in the clones.

[@Merluso415]

Un combate bastante gracioso seria entre un clase ejecutor vs un clase marathon .

[@Merluso415]

O un clase atumn también puede ser :v

[@NOTbot-ip8ng]

I wanted to see the firing of the MAC cannon

[@scorpionkiller19]

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[@marellus6769]

Im not gonna lie, to the people saying a venator would win I severely disagree. The whole design of a venator is supposed to be a long range support "Artillery Carrier" It can carry Fighters/Bombers while dishing out good damage from afar, close range would be hell for a venator due to the lack of medium and short range batteries meanwhile the UNSC do really well in terms of variety, they have long range, close range, medium range and all rounders in their arsenal. So I think that this fight is pretty accurate to what would happen, also since the paris class has high mobility compared to a venator

[@scorpionkiller19]

Yea, I've seen a few complaints about the shields, but I'm not sure if they even have shields in the clone wars with how fast they get taken out.

[@Code_DarkWolf]

@@scorpionkiller19 They have shields but when the writters need to destroy a venator the shield suddenly dissapear. Btw star wars does have shilds for kinectic weaponry but they are rarely used an very underpowered compared to deflectors shields so they wont last much time. The thermal capabilities of the Venator armor is good against energy weapons like blasters or plasma but it is a llittle more than just metal when faced against kinectic weapons. This battles are nice to see and don't worry trying to be "lore accurate" with Star Wars stuff, they have little consistency since it is a "fantasy space opera" so details vary drastically depending on the plot.

[@scorpionkiller19]

Thanks! I like to try to get as close to accurate as I can, but I think fairness is important in these.

[@marellus6769]

I think the shields arent that bulky considering how quick you see some get destroyed but I could be wrong

[@marellus6769]

@@scorpionkiller19 i 100% agree with fairness and accuracy makes the whole thing much more enjoyable

[@john_wack]

Lore Accurate meme

[@scorpionkiller19]

Yea, this is during order 66. The UNSC and republic were allied before that... 😂

[@savirianwinter1656]

I was going to say the UNSC armour tech during the later end and post war was actually stronger than Durasteel used during any war in star wars. Titanium A2 and A3 were made with the idea of Kinectic and Energy in mind. The Durasteel is only Energy. Durasteel was strong as Titanium A1 though.

[@savirianwinter1656]

Sorry, I accidentally liked my own comment when I was trying not to sneeze.

[@scorpionkiller19]

I didn't know there was so much advancement in armor in the halo universe.I figured it was pretty much what we have now.

[@savirianwinter1656]

@@scorpionkiller19 Yeah, A3 is better because it can be modified on the go, as well as easily replaced and placed on top each other. It was upgraded even further from the war with the Created and the Forerunner ships that use EMP a lot. The Infinity used it before the banished rammed into her with three dreadnoughts. The A3 used Tungsten and another type of metal because they were more heat resistant than regular titanium. So they mixed the 3 together to create the A3 variant. Lighter, cheaper, and stronger.

[@constantinexi6893]

What where the combat blocks set to?

[@StarKnight619]

RIP headphone users

[@scorpionkiller19]

They got what they deserved. I fixed the sound the best I can. I don't know why the missle sound messes up like that.

[@EllAntares]

That's very small Venator.. and panama, lol. The former should be ~1.2km long, the latter ~ 1.5km long.

[@Meravokas]

dude, the frigate is only 456 meters long, what are you on about? xD You're thinking of the Marathon class Cruiser.

[@scorpionkiller19]

I know the venator is a 1:3 scale. I'm not sure about the Panama

[@scorpionkiller19]

The Panama is 1.5k feet long. That is an easy mistake to make.

[@commanderfreakkz5688]

How do you lock the Archer missile when using Ai block?

[@scorpionkiller19]

Idk, they just do it on their own. In my more recent video, they even work a lot better than they did in this.

[@commanderfreakkz5688]

@@scorpionkiller19so just place a ai block and they start firing?

[@scorpionkiller19]

Sorry the notifications for comments get a little weird. Yes, I just gave the ship a flight and offensive ai, and it figured it out on its own.

[@commanderfreakkz5688]

@@scorpionkiller19 I wonder how the ai did that because if you pilot it, if you want to to use the missiles, you have to lock to an enemy ship

[@scorpionkiller19]

Well, the offensive ai does lock onto ships itself just like you would.

[@Shinzon23]

Got lucky and took out the AI blocks?

[@scorpionkiller19]

Took out all of the thrusters on the left side so it couldn't slow down anymore.

[@Shinzon23]

@scorpionkiller19 ah Yes the "cripple and let gravity do the rest" move

[@scorpionkiller19]

Its surprisingly effective.

[@joshp4582]

lmao not the most realistic outcome but I like the ships

[@scorpionkiller19]

Yea, it's just meant to be a cool video. Glad you liked it.

[@joshp4582]

@@scorpionkiller19 I'd love to build a Venator on my pvp server but making one that isn't going to be dog shit for PvP that fits into a 40k PCU grid limit is too much of a challenge

[@SomeD00D01]

Cool battle an all but the starwars mod is unbalanced as shit so an unfair fight it still lost though lol

[@scorpionkiller19]

So true! That's why I balanced the mod myself! The damage of the turbolasers were cut by 8-12x, and the fire rate was made 3 times slower where it only shoots one round instead of two(8×3×2 making them 48 times weaker). It also annoyed me that the star wars weapons drilled 1x1 holes straight to the important bits. No more! The main turrets accuracy was changed from .05 of a degree (overpowered keeping 1x1 accuracy up to 2km) to 2 degrees 40 times less accurate. The lesser turrets on the sides also had .05 degrees of accuracy. I changed them to 3 degrees as well as the damage nerf. Great catch! I completely agree that the star wars mod is broken as presented. The code references a "commission" so the developer likely made it overpowered by request of the person who paid them to make it.

[@VictoryFireStudios]

Why does the venator only have 8 turrets?

[@scorpionkiller19]

It has 10, But i get your point. The reason being that the mod i was using for its turrets didnt have any small turrets. The main cannons of the venator were the smallest option available and they didnt even fit were they were supposed to go. so i couldn't fit them anywhere else

[@VictoryFireStudios]

@@scorpionkiller19 ahh, ok