Automobilista 2 FFB Setup Guide - 2021 Edition

[@erictripton]

I've just declared this my new fave over AC and ACC. Plus not a ridiculous amount of mods. They really have gone to great lengths.

[@azarisLP]

Very good and methodical way to approach FFB setting, much better than the usual "here are four random numbers, enjoy" approach.

[@tombrandt7055]

Yeah... I was struggeling whith the lack of sence from the front wheels. Now it seems to be solved. Thanks Mike. Always nice and informative videos. Tip Top!! :-)

[@morpheus9394]

What an excellent guide and so well explained and presented in a way most people will be able to understand easily. It was will help with other racing sims so doubly useful. Thanks Mike. Top man :-)

[@panosschoin5408]

Mate thanks for your videos which i really enjoy! Just saw this and wanted to note that the sliders work differently on Default and the Custom file by design. This comment refers only to Custom files, not the Default. For the Rfuktor specifically Damping controls the powersteering, it has nothing to do with the damping itself (damping is preset on the file itself). The LFB again controls the speed, strength and the center of the wheel. I would suggest to you a Gain between 30-40 (maybe more), LFB 5-15, FX up to 32 (higher values should normally produce too much road noise) and Damping between 5-15 (different cars might need different settings that is why the ranges). Regarding the Damping, you might decide to increase Gain more and with inreasing Damping (powersteering) you might achieve a nicer feeling (stronger center, etc.), not sure how it is in the accuforce. Also i would advise using in accuforce software the less or even 0 filtering as possible. These custom files have been desgined based on Direct Drives (SCpro & DD1) with minimal or no filtering at all, so you should be ok. Cheers!

[@CaptainCrunch99]

As noted below by Panos:--- Please note that "Silver Raw rFuktor" files use the damping slider for "power steering", so the higher you put it, the less force will be generated in cornering. This feature makes the FFB center vs cornering force adjustable both by LFB and by gain/PS adjustments. LFB does it one way, gain/PS another, so there are many combinations to find a sweet spot for both car & wheel base. And you can also see the widget in the HUD showing the FFB forces across the spectrum, and whether or not you are reaching the clipping levels.

[@MHFineArt]

Excellent video and a good guide/process, really appreciate your time/content. Thank you 👍👍

[@Tony-Tech]

Nice job explaining this. I have been playing with my FF seetings in Automobilista 2 this week. So your timing is perfect. Thanks, this helped a lot. Nice work!

[@cards7651]

I was about to give up on AMS2 until this Vid, now I will practice a lot to understand the sim….still not as good as ACC or AC….but just a different experience to get accustom to…. As always, your vids are simple to understand and very helpful..👍🏼👍🏼

[@diegobalzarini1994]

I have a wheel for a very long time and never understood what was right to feel. this video helped me and found that my old csr forza is quite good for the price. thanks mike. your videos are awesome

[@SimRacing604]

Thanks for the kind words Diego. I’m glad the video helped you

[@Cyteless]

Thanks for the overview, Mike. I've been using the rFuktor file, but never got around to dialling in my own settings with it. Good approach you've taken here.

[@bobbaganush17]

very well explained finally helped me tweak my VRS DFP a lot better now. Thank you very much!

[@SimRacing604]

You’re most welcome!

[@oktc68]

Thanks Mike, very useful. Been away from sim racing for a few weeks due to an old injury playing up, now it's time to get back to it and about time that I got this sim properly dialed in. (I tend to gravitate towards rF2) but with all the new content, it's about time I got stuck back into Ams2

[@jopereirapt]

BTW, "Damping" in rfuctor custom FFB is power steering wheel force (the more, the lighter the wheel). Damping itself is built into custom FFB.

[@jimbob0025]

The KZbin transcription said “What’s up guys it’s Mike for some reason 604” lol.

[@SimRacing604]

New channel name incoming!

[@diegobalzarini1994]

I wonder what’s the reason behind 604 😂😂

[@SimRacing604]

@@diegobalzarini1994 area code!

[@jopereirapt]

Don't make fun of it 😁. That's the only way I can understand russian (really, had some transcriptions that were vital for my electronics hobby - without it no joy) And remember, when AI take the world, you'll be in their list... 😁

[@krisavedisian]

If your downloading the FFB custom from the first page of the forum they made some updates. You can find the file on page two of the thread, the file name is "Resurrection". It brings back the feeling in the center which was lost after one of the games most recent updates.

[@danthomas7909]

Thanks for this useful video Mike. I watch and enjoy all of your content, but rarely write a comment. However, the information you give in this video and manner in which you demonstrate it has allowed me to fine tune my setups to a hole new level. Great job!

[@stefan-georgfuchs9618]

Hello Mike, as usual, very helpful and instructive vid. Maybe, as some help for non-DD wheelbase owners : I use a TM TS-XW ( 6,3Nm peak torque ) and noticed, that your Accuforce should have around twice as much. So for starters, I just doubled your recommended settings, except for the Menu Spring strength, which I set at 15 after checking the movement. It was quite a nice ballpark-shot for most types of cars. So finally I ended up with Gain 60, LFB and FX at 50. Damping still at 0 in the default profile. Another thing I want to mention is, that each var ( or class ) has an individual FFB setting in it's setup ( like in Raceroom and others ) In the controller settings, you can assign to keys, I use pge up/pge down, to adjust the individual FFB during driving. Fine work... So i.e. for Formula V10 cars I ended up with a 110% setting. For some of the older racecars without powersteering and wide slicks, you might need only 95%...hope this helped people. These sims are so full of detail functions that some useful ones might get overlooked. Best regards Stefan - ahh needless to say that you got a like and way earlier already a sub.

[@youngganghis5236]

Hey, I got a TS-PC which is essentially the same wheelbase as yours, just with different compatibilities. I actually have a few questions about it overall since you seem pretty informed. First, which Rim do u use? Because from open wheel to a large 32mm rim do you just increase the gain to compensate for the larger diameter? Second, how do u find the best settings for each sim with this wheelbase?

[@stefan-georgfuchs9618]

@@youngganghis5236 Hi, actually, I use this wheel with 4 different sims and I wanted to avoid setting up different TM driver settings. So I leave everything on 100%, wheel rotation 900°. Everything else is done in the sim software. As for AMS 2 , I use an overall gain of 85% ( thats the best for me and my personal state of health/fitness ) AND adjust FFB force furthermore and more subtle in the car setup, if need be. Some cars have better grip then others tyres, downforce...) and hence produce a higher power output on your wheel...at least that is my impression. Many people believe, the higher the force, the better ( cause more "realistic" ). But this is, in my experience, not true. It is like driving GT3 cars in sims without traction control and ABS as this seems to be more more "manly"..but those cars are actually developped for to use with TC and ABS. Without them, they would be very difficult to drive consisterntly a a high pace in reallity. However, back to FFB. If the applied FFB Level is too high, you need not only more force to move the wheel, but you also loose out a lot of the more subtle nuances of various FFB forces are overlaid by pure strength, so to speak. If you have to concentrate to put all your efforts into keeping the car on the track due to high FFB force in your wheel, you will not find the necessary feeling to direct the car to the right apex point...which leaves you always with a worse line then those of your opponents who, often silently, have tuned down their FFB to somewhat like 60%..which enables you top drive the car way more reliable and precise. Don't forget, that real world race drivers belong to the best trained athletes in the world to withstand high G-forces in fast turns , during hard braking and accelleration. They need to sustain several hours race in 130 dezibel racing sauna without falling into coma while driving as precise as possible on the limit. Not an easy task for the pro's anmd impossible for the untrained amateur. I would predict, that the average sim-racer isn't nearly half way as fit as most drivers and hence they shouldn't aim to simulate what these guys have to endure during a race ( including trainings, qualies and trackdays. ). Esdpecially not, when all the efforts on realism ends up in 10 Minute stints or pure hotlapping...real racing is way more complex and requires a way more developped set of skills then "just" being fgast for a couple laps. Long story short : You have to experiment yourself with the FFB settings of your wheel but ideally do this within the sim itself as much as possible and use guidance like the one from Mike, Steelcast and some other specialists.

[@youngganghis5236]

@@stefan-georgfuchs9618 Rn I'm at work, but I'll take a 2nd read on this. But really appreciate the effort and information you put out here. Thank you. I'll reply later again

[@stefan-georgfuchs9618]

@@youngganghis5236 No problem. I am taking a 2 month hiatus from sim racing in order to travel europe ( France and Spain ) with my camper

[@rickthomas9894]

Mike - thank you for this great video. I watched straight thru once, then went thru section by section bouncing between your video and AM2 working out the settings. I am fairly new to simracing and have a Thrustmaster TX, so setting and results comparisons while driving are a bit subtle for me. Your descriptions while driving really helped me focus on what to "feel" for. Bliss is when my buttkicker and wheel are in harmony :-) Thank you for all the hard work to bring us such well crafted and informative content.

[@SimRacing604]

Hi Rick!! Thank you so much for these kind words. This is exactly the type of comment that keeps me motivated and happy making videos!

[@sypher441]

Do u whant to share ut settings rick 🙂

[@vatch07075]

Oh, how I have been waiting for this video! Thanks Mike!

[@SimRacing604]

Most welcome Ed! Let me know if the damping works for you

[@vatch07075]

@@SimRacing604 so you nailed. the latest custom file makes Dampening act as power steering. The higher the slider, the less torque needed to turn the wheel. The lower the slider, the more torque needed to turn the wheel. I tweaked some of your settings, and it felt really good. When using SC4 to launch the game, it felt a bit more detailed for me. The custom file is really nice, for sure!

[@LucasJodokast]

i love that feeling once you get FFB dialed in right, i always find myself taking my car for a quick drive then jumping back on the sim then back in the car then back in the sim lol tedious but awesome once you get it just right

[@SIMTRIBE]

Very informative and clean explanation! Thank you!

[@molebwoy2608]

Thankyou so much.These custom files are just what I needed.great advice as usual.Thanks for making me enjoy this game again

[@RubberStig]

Mike that is some great timing! I went through this process with my AccuForce Pro V2 DD girl .. err .. wheel last night, and ended up with settings very similar to yours. My process was almost the same as yours. Also not using a SimCommander4 profile, just the standard wheel settings in the software. Thanks for the vindication Mike, and the great video :-) I cannot comment on the damping, because to me it just adds unnecessary weight to the wheel (like driving a street car with very low tire pressure or parking a car with very wide tires). I too like the steering to be fairly light, as power steering is a thing that happened millennia ago and will forever be a thing ;-)

[@PixelTherapy_85]

This is awesome Mike! Thank you! Going to try this tomorrow.

[@hooliganracing5110]

Great video Mike. Love your positive attitude in all your videos. I'm like you as far as AMS2 goes. I think it's pretty good and it's what I'm driving mostly right now. This is from a guy that ran the AC side of things at RD for 18 months. I love AC and ACC and I still think they are the best for me, but Reiza is doing a great job and I love the tire feel. Keep it up and God Bless

[@phillipbeharall6271]

Thanks Mick excellent and after all the updates this is just what we all need 👏👏

[@thomasknudson9659]

Thanks mike! Really appreciate you making this one!

[@SingleRacerSVR]

Thankyou Mike, er, um, I mean SimRacing604, er, um, I mean SimRacing604 (Mike Edition ; ) - cos these video's are ALWAYS very helpful for not only beginners --- but also any advanced drivers that might want a "rethink' about how they have it set up themselves personally... [:]-)

[@jasongreen2745]

Thank you, working through the sliders one at a time with you, I was able to get a good setting even with my old G25.

[@SimRacing604]

That’s awesome to hear! Happy racing!

[@SIMRACINGTRUCKER]

Using this I've been able to get the best from the default FFB and it feels really good especially since 1.2.0.8

[@ArturGordinho]

Hi all The circuit is Estoril were Ayrton Senna win is first F1 GP in heavy rain race in 1985, and tanks for excellent content!!!

[@borrie869]

Yea I have a real thing for damping, I tend to only drive older style cars with a stick shift and no power steering so I like that feeling of the wheel being heavy. Takes me back to memories of youth and driving cars around paddocks

[@mickaeldavid1304]

Nice to have the methodology to go about it. Thanks!

[@Zeeflyboy]

Re the damping, I believe rfuktor repurposes it as “power steering”, hence why you wouldn’t see any damping effect from it.

[@Mistermoleymole]

this ^^^^

[@ettoresapienzamaddriver876]

I think so. I believe damping with rfuktor has been transformed into power steering

[@jamesstuart137]

I thought LFB was designated as power steering

[@Zeeflyboy]

@@jamesstuart137 from the notes - “IMPORTANT: The rFuktor file is using the "Damping" slider not for damping, but instead for power steering. So the higher you set it, the less force on cornering and downforce.”

[@kenjishum4630]

Thanks for the guide! Really dialed in my FFB.

[@carlgray6764]

very good mike .... i use the rfuktor one myself ... its very good also i like to go to car setup before the race and up the car specific ffb from 100% to 108 ... gives a nice weighty feel to the cars. i know ffb is a personal thing,and what one person like others wont !

[@David-ym2vk]

Thanks a lot for this video. I’m new to sim racing and some of the force feedback settings in games are relatively straight forward but I was pretty lost trying to understand what these settings meant.

[@panthros7395]

Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the new update 1.3. Thanks as always.

[@winnythekahuna8073]

I wish the force feedback sliders, in-game would be categorized as 1/ road rolling vibrations 2/ steering wheel force resistance 3/ steering wheel snap back force 4/ tire grip/slip effect strength 5/ total force feedback output multiplier.

[@viktoytube]

Great video, just what I need to setup my T-GT 2 wheel

[@PistonBrokeGaming]

i can't get used to AMS2, the car just feels too floaty and snap oversteery, it never feels planted no matter what changes i make

[@julianmitchell9946]

I’m finding this too. But I’m nee to sim racing and have a modest setup with a Logitech wheel, so it’s probably a mixture of cheap setup, bad configuration and crap skill level for me lol. I’d love to get into this seriously, but I have no idea if it’s my driving skill (or lack thereof) or bad setup.

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

Oooh , perfect vid for what I'm looking for! But I'm wondering why YT won't recommend your videos in my feed... :(

[@raymhuang]

Here's a different perspective for ffb strength. Looking at it from a car racer, not SIM racer. High, but realistic ffb levels help for training for real world. Not conducive to ultimate laptimes maybe! Keep up the great videos!

[@damonschumi]

Big thanks for this video Mike. I hope so mutch in future for driver swaps , and more multiplayer cars , special for endunrace. Greets mike

[@Simlife101]

SimRacing604 thank you for this. I had the low force at zero lol and was like " the car feels dead on the straight 😂 So again thank you and subs well earned one last thing. How easy is it to add a custom FFB file.

[@SimRacing604]

You’re welcome! And adding a custom FFB file only takes a minute. There’s a link with directions in the video description

[@Simlife101]

@@SimRacing604 much appreciated thank you

[@galaxian_hitchhiker]

Just download txt rename it to ffb custom file txt as in documents/automobilista2 folder. Done.

[@SamKatakouzinosRacing]

Hi Mike. I have an AccuForce V2 as well. What are your device settings used in this video? I'd like to mimic them and follow along. As of now I'm one day old with AMS2 and this is new to me. Mode: Intensity: Smoothing: Degrees of rotation: Stop spring: Stop dampener: Spring: Friction: Dampener: Inertia:

[@harrydodd2226]

Thank you very much, very helpful just what I was looking for.. Thanks

[@noroardanto]

Excellent tutorial, will try this on weekend. thanks

[@olddogg60]

Thank you. Very useful information. 👍

[@reptilexcq2]

I can tell you that motion rig add another layer of force feedback just as incredible as the wheel. I certainly can't drive without it because you cannot feel the texture of the road and the curve and bumps without motion rig.

[@keithbanford8082]

100% agree

[@toddmcdonough]

I'm loving AMS2. Cars reward you for over-driving and risking it all. FFB is hyperactive - which suits my taste.

[@viktorianas]

Exactly why I love this sim as well, it feels that I am in total control, not like a passenger as it feels in some other sims.

[@roccothamanoidis]

That detail rich force- and now also audio feedback is what I love to work with. It's instantaneous and feels something to trust on going to the limits.

[@tysopiccaso8711]

@@screennameoflate7788 I'm tryna find who asked tho

[@viktorianas]

T300 - default preset, gain 100, low force 50, fx 0, damper 0, bind FFB gain buttons on the wheel and normally adjust to 70-85 depending on the car. Maybe not ideal, but the easiest way to get very good results. In Trustmaster software keep it ~95% or even less to prevent damage in long term, also force fan to blow all the time.

[@cparoli1111]

Why fx on 0?

[@viktorianas]

@@cparoli1111 it is artificial effects, you get all rumbles from pure physics mostly from low force setting.

[@edteach3r]

Thanks Mike. I really want to like AMS2, but Raceroom Racing Experience brings my 10 year-old Fanatec CSR wheel alive like no other. Ironically, the original FFB that AMS2 launched with in pre-release was so informative, but the game has never recaptured that intuitive feel on my old system, not even with the custom files. Also, my Buttkicker cannot detect the wheel slip like AC or ACC does. I enjoy RF2 but, for me, R3E is the pinnacle .. it is so alive that I simply do not need to update my system. Unfortunately, AMS2 is not getting much playtime at the moment.

[@Tempest261]

Yes! Such a useful video.

[@m4_rco656]

Buenas, una pregunta si desinstalo el juego el archivo sigue ahi y no le pasa nada y por ejemplo si quiero instalar de nuevo el juego todo sigue normal e igual que antes? tengo dudas AYUDA!¡

[@adrianstealth340]

Delete the ams2 folder in “myDocs”

[@pascalsparla2324]

Dumb question, but you use the Rfuktor file and then adjust these settings ingame right?

[@ApeStep]

Thanks for the great guide Mike i think I'll revisit my own settings 😍😍👍

[@chuckystang]

Did I miss it but have you tried making car specific FFB gain adjustments vs the global? Also what are your wheel base FFB settings? Thanks

[@julianmitchell9946]

Thanks for the great video. How do I load a ffb file and does it do anything behind the scenes that the sliders don’t do?

[@WilXuH]

our beloved bumpy sim XD

[@BrokenWheelYT]

thank you for the link and advice, I check with my G920 and its feel awsome! Better thn Default.

[@hinerleamonp]

What are your simxperience settings for your accuforce v2?

[@jaggietube]

Hi, Mike, Would you say that a given set of FFB parameters is equally appropriate for different cars on a given driving rig?

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Intersting custom feedback u using. Silver raw dampning acts as power steering kinda.

[@szabolcstorok5856]

With all these AMS2 videos, you're really making me buy AMS2 haha. But I'm deciding these 2 games, AMS2 and Rfactor2, I play a lot of Asetto and I want an upgrade for it, so which game would you/others reading this recommend without buying any additional DLC?

[@SIMRACINGTRUCKER]

AMS2. It has great graphics and potential.

[@szabolcstorok5856]

@@SIMRACINGTRUCKER Yeah I think I'm gonna get AMS2, looks way more promising than RF2

[@sunny113866]

Very useful, thanks!

[@andyholmes9485]

Doesn't the rf** custom profile change the perameter functions Mike? Cheers

[@DudePT]

Estoril circuit is awesome

[@paulgreenwood69]

Do you have the torque Max on the wheelbase? Then dial down in game?

[@cparoli1111]

I think the majority of people have cheap wheels like Logitech, thrustmaster t150 / t300, would you have approximate values for these wheels?

[@jonwatters2137]

Thanks Mike.

[@Dcully]

Great vid but hard to watch as I have no wheel until fanatec ship my csl DD in late November I'm gutted my g29 broke.

[@andreic5822]

In rfuktor file DAMPER works like servo. Also for T300rs for me I set it at zero(60,50,50,0 are my values for GTE cars).

[@SimRacing604]

Interesting. I can’t get the damper to work even on the base FFB profile either

[@andreic5822]

@@SimRacing604 I cannot say anything about the Default ffb but if you open the rfuktor custom file this is written among the first lines in the file :"REMEMBER that in this file, the damping-slider sets the power steering strength. Adjust it lower for more torque feel, and adjust it higher for less torque feel."

[@shieldyourselfmusic8567]

hey man what setting do I turn down to minimise FFB when turning - On the straights its fine but when I turn any corner my whole desk shakes - Im using a Moza R5

[@SimRacing604]

Tough to say, but it could be a damping issue. I’ve never heard of that TBH

[@matiaz0]

Hi everybody, how could I place different force feedback to every car?,

[@gc241]

Would it be any different for the TM T300 RS?

[@snorderracing6867]

Do you use the simcomander cloud profiles?

[@SimRacing604]

Normally yes. It feels great in most cars. I disabled it for this video for the sake of (hopefully) keeping it more aligned with other wheels

[@missmataleo]

hi, can i know what is ur wheel rotation setting? also my menu spring setting not working on my t300rs. its weird

[@SimRacing604]

I use 540 for all of my sims

[@GamingwithSteeeve]

Very helpful man, as someone with a g27 still, it can get a little clunky sometimes hahaha

[@chicken6000]

thanks my dude

[@SimRacing604]

All good! Thanks for watching

[@neandertalac]

Custom FFB not my cup of tea. I just have issues with empty feel in the middle on G29

[@Jpilgrim30]

Some people seem to have this idea that the Accuforce isn’t very strong because it’s not the most powerful wheel on the market. Turn up the force feedback in the NASCAR cup car at Daytona and tell me the Accuforce isn’t strong then. When the tires load up on the banking in the corners and you start hitting those bumps it’ll nearly dislocate your shoulders 😂

[@lickrish3930]

What's your base only 20 gain it must be powerful

[@fansimracing3596]

awesome

[@noroardanto]

Please do rF2 and ACC ffb setup guide

[@jopereirapt]

Cascais = Estoril but AMS2 doesn't have GP track, only the GT. That's too bad as I hate this GT version (difference is visible in the layout).

[@LJSR07]

Ok so I was trying to follow so I can learn to play this game but it keeps freezing

[@TomGS]

Mike, do you still have these settings? I just updated the firmware in my scl dd, and i forgot to save my settings.😅

[@SimRacing604]

Ive updated them a bit. I released another video recently with my current settings

[@TomGS]

@@SimRacing604 thanks! ill check it out

[@LJSR07]

I'm 53 new to this and I have very little patience. I have sc2 pro. With moza crap fsr wheel. It mis shifts funky switch don't work... sorry it's junk.

[@loudoesreviews]

Thanks!

[@潘博政]

DO you use rfucktor kuku 4.4 T300-TX profile?

[@潘博政]

the other question is what value do you use with t300 control panel?thanks

[@natel7382]

I bought Ams2 awhile back and could not for the life of me get my t300 to feel right at all. After almost 2 hours of trying I gave up and got a refund. But I really really want to get it since these new updates but I'm still worried the ffb will feel dead. I also couldn't get the degrees of rotation to work correctly so the car either wouldn't turn or would be too twitchy. Idk if I was doing something wrong. But I'm used to the ffb from acc or rf2 so I was hoping to get something comparable. If anyone has any settings they could give me(or a suggestion on what custom ffb file to use) I'd really welcome it and rebuy the game to try it. Ty

[@OhItsThat]

I had to use low force boost with my DD2 but with my SC2 Pro I don’t. Such better ffb from the SC2. The one thing this title is missing and something I wish people would talk about more is the lack of hardware profile saving. Every title on the market can have multiple hardware profiles except PCars and AMS2. It’s really important in a title that has such a large verity of cars that use different controls and would feel vastly different from one another. Until it happens I can’t take this title seriously.

[@SimRacing604]

That’s a great point. And I’ll see extend that to graphics profiles as well. I would love to see Reiza add Low, Medium, High, Ultra presets and an option for Custom settings for graphics

[@pooljunkie85]

Just realized you sound a bit like Seth Rogen…and you’re both from Vancouver…coincidence??

[@bertram-raven]

It's time to make a new video now we have the new FFB. (Nov/Dec 2021)

[@flowerdealer]

Good video but it is only relevant to that specific custom FFB file.

[@wabbit234]

I set my gain by eating red meat and lifting weights

[@LJSR07]

Yep I got nothing. A little rumble but that's it. 50+ on gain 100 low force boost 100 FX I got nothing, also I have a really big deadzone in the center, have to turn it 90° to get it to turn. I'm really tired of how stupid, ridiculous complicated this crap is for new people like myself. Ugh... rf2, F1-22. Garbage on game setup.

[@Shawn-fu3mp]

The shaking is anoying AF!