My Thoughts on GTR2, And Why I Look At Sims Differently Now

[@russellstone6390]

Now check out race 07, then all the rest from Simbin.

[@SimRacing604]

Will do!

[@shovas]

If Mike likes the tyre model in GTR2 he should love it in R07

[@SimRacing604]

@@shovas I shall try it

[@joshuabenson2568]

Race 07 is og only real ones played that shit

[@mancunianace8428]

I couldn't get my head around race 07 until recently, downloaded the BTCC mod, it's fantastic. It can be a bit if a pain setting up your wheel initially. But it's worth the tinkering.

[@Incognito-vc9wj]

GtLegends, GTR2, Race07 were all marvelous sims!

[@SilkCutJaguarXJR-]

The thing i like most about gtr2 is the massive amount of cars you can run at once. Not only spa with 64 cars, i've ran the nurburgring with 104 cars in the grid and it's Just pure insanity

[@andrewharper4296]

Yeah exactly, I remember when the announcement was made about ACC (which is very good by the way) and it was announced that it would be a limited grid. I could sense the whole GTR2 fan base sigh in disapproval across the world. 😂 GT racing always had huge grids, I went to the Silverstone to see the BPR series back in ‘95 and ‘96 and they had almost 55 cars in the main race. I still don’t know how they managed to fit them all in the pits!

[@utkarshchaurasia2233]

@@andrewharper4296 the thing with acc is the AI uses same physics as player so the AI is VERY cpu intensive. And actually at spa and Silverstone you can run 50 cars in acc but you need a good cpu to do so

[@T3CMAD9]

@@utkarshchaurasia2233 I just got acc for my xbox one and it struggles with race starts so bad

[@utkarshchaurasia2233]

@@T3CMAD9 yup Kunos should maybe simplify the AI physics model a bit to help cpu

[@amin7581]

@@utkarshchaurasia2233 and you'd get worse AI due to that.

[@GPLaps]

Indeed a good one Mike! Good luck with Grand Prix Legends, I hope you find much of the same.

[@rosumin38]

You know a sim achieved what it set out to do when it is still fun 15 years after its release.

[@stephenosullivan74]

GTR2 is a great sim. It feels like it was made by motorsports enthusiasts who could adapt the game code as they saw fit. Don't forget to try Race07 and its DLC.

[@Soulfood68]

The CEO of Simbin, Henrik Roos drove in the FIA GT Championship between 2002 & 2004 in the Chrysler Viper GTS-R. His name is on the cars in the game as well 👍

[@r.a.m6211]

can someone please help me with race 07??? the game has auto clutch turned on DESPITE turning it off in the menus. i can shift without clutching basically, also when i downshift it auto blips for me. it breaks the immersion, i want it manual, and i mean, no auto blip, no auto clutch, i want complete control. i like race 07 a lot, but this has been bugging me a lot lately, and im looking for another sim, cos i tried fixing it, but it still isnt fixed. please help

[@PedroSantos_83]

@@r.a.m6211 Have you changed the realism/difficulty settings? Changing them activates or deactivates some of the driving aids.

[@Shitinthemorning]

Race 07 with mods is great, but the problem is you need to adjust every time during hours your Wheel setup for almost every car. I can enjoy GTR2 during houres One Car with One circuit just doing lap times

[@thestrand11]

Miss the days of popping on Nogrip and seeing what cool mod or upgrade was out this week. Racedepartment has some these days but nothing like nogrip had. So much lost content when they went down.

[@Soulfood68]

Yeah it was a sad day when they shut it down.

[@socksonfeet8125]

Yup i lost touch with the gtr2 community over the years after I stopped playing /modding the game. I released a handful of street cars and never backed them up. So now they are gone too lol. Oh well, should have backed them up. I kinda want to remake some of my mods but that was windows 7 days, I dont even have win7 anymore and would have to get whatever software works with windows 10 and relearn how to make cars/tracks. But asseto corsa seems to be where all the mods are today.

[@angelodagnolo984]

Man.... Took the words out of my mouth. I had most of those cars tracks HD graphics mods, it was truly an amazing SIM, especially if you had a G25 LOL

[@Aja-nt]

Most of the older Sims were way more immersive in terms of actual racing incidents, such as the ai cars unexpectedly breaking down, pulling into the pits or being involved in accidents. Play any of the older sims and be amazed at all the extra surprises going on around you.

[@nivracer]

That's what I miss about a lot of modern games/sims. Why did getting rid of failures ever go away?

[@Jt7166]

Moment of honesty, Ive never played GTR2. This actually makes me want to try it.

[@nivracer]

Go for it dude. It's quite tedious to set up like he said. I had to manually tell my INVIDIA controller that I want to use my graphics card on the config file.

[@Jt7166]

@@nivracer oh boy 🤣

[@CottonXS]

I remember being a kid, leaning over the back of the sofa watching dad every night racing on gt2. He did leagues and won trophies and some prizes. This game really started everything for me, i was hooked just weatching.

[@rontgenpetersen1896]

Still one of my all time faves

[@alpha007org]

I was chatting a couple of days ago with a fiend when I bought F1 2021. And we came to the same conclusion. Why don't all the racing games have an Adaptive AI? Friend told me there's a page dedicated to calculating your in game AI because it's so inconsistent - at some tracks you set it 92 at some 86,.. I was saying things like: Why don't you have an option to practice race starts? I, for the life of me, cannot get a good start. 2. Same at the pits. Why don't AAA game like F1 2021 don't have some "training ground" where the game shows you things, evaluates your performance and then you go from there? They are a big studio with EA backing... Things that can be implemented ONCE and then included in every version of the game? Why do you have to study books or pay someone to understand basic setup things? In ACC everyone knows correct PSI. But it's nowhere to be found in the game or explained. I'm a software developer and I know a small studio (kunos) cannot do everything, so they made the best physics and handling model. I understand. But they could outsource these "little" things. "Making life better" things. Like: The Game itself could teach you how to trailbrake with soundblips and graphical indicators on a special part of the track with one corner where you could repeat the same thing 5 times in a minute. Then longer/shorter corners.

[@jwork5680]

I heard forza 6 had a adaptive ai, not sure if it's true though, but i agree with your statement, atm only Gran Turismo has done it with their license test stuff

[@andrewharper4296]

Raceroom has an adaptive AI but you have to train it carefully, because if you beat than easily in your first race they will all of a sudden go much faster than you in the next event. Lol. There are a few decent guides online about how to work it properly. The AI in raceroom is pretty good. I’ve read comments from some saying it’s too aggressive, etc but I’ve never really experienced that for some reason.

[@alpha007org]

@@andrewharper4296 Adaptive AI should work something like this: In F1 game you can set it from 0 to 120 in 1 increments. If you are good at 65 then AI should set itself up to 70 or down to 60, depending at how you race currently. So you set a race 50% and if you are competitive at 90 but not at 94, AI should look at your previous laps and correct it's difficulty. I think if you set at 65 and win by 60 seconds then it's up to you to up the difficulty. AI should tweak itself in small increments during a race. My opinion on AI. This should be easy to implement in all racing games.

[@gomezthechimp1116]

@@alpha007org In Raceroom you need to race a couple of 10 minute races at whatever track you`re racing on, then it simply has the AI roughly match your lap times +/-

[@nivracer]

@@jwork5680 They might call their Driveatars "adaptive" but they are just trash. I did a race at Le Mans and the AI kept braking on flat out corners and and get into pileups into the first corner. The this was on FM7 at Max difficulty, I'm also not the fastest driver out there and can easily beat them.

[@BillyStrangeAutoModels]

Agreed. When I did videos on GTR2 at ISR, its kinda ruined me for what I expect out of a sim. GTR2 is so much fun to jump in and race.

[@noahfernandez9219]

An interesting fact about GTR2: The CEO of SimBin Studios was a a Swedish man named Henrik Roos. He used to race in a Saleen S7R during the GT seasons covered in this game. Also, Blimey! Games (the predecessors of Slightly Mad Studios) did a lot for the game in terms of development in tandem with SimBin.

[@noahfernandez9219]

Also, this game had the ability to log data about the car whenever you drove it and if you had the i2 pro software from MoTeC, it was another level of realism in terms of looking at the data and seeing where you're strong and where you're weak.

[@nickbauerly5438]

@@noahfernandez9219 I spent wayyyyy too much time reading graphs and charts in MOTEC trying to eek out a couple tenths more!

[@maxleitschuh7076]

I believe Simbin and Blimey/SMS were one and the same at the time this was made. Simbin started out under Ian Bell as a mod team for the EA F1 games. They then brought on Roos as an investor when they became a full-fledged game dev and did GTR, GTR2, and GTL (which I think is actually the best of the bunch). After those games the Ian Bell part of the company split from Simbin to form Blimey, which then morphed into SMS.

[@petereliasson4734]

I watched Henrik Roos here in Sweden when he raced in a Dodge Viper GTR. That sound. :)

[@PhantomMark]

Henrik raced the Viper GT in the FIA GT, he never raced the Saleen whilst we were Simbin. :)

[@FaithlessEmoRacing]

Classic Spa with the correct Bus Stop Chicane! 😍 I remember buying GTR2 from a shop in a box! Then getting home and playing it with a keyboard! lol

[@minmaxxer]

it's still pretty crazy how when it comes to pure immersion and features a game from 2006 still beats out most modern sims same with grand prix 4, that and GTR2 were some of the peaks of the era if not of simracing in general

[@TurboRacing39]

Actually there are a lot of people still driving the game online. I am one of them and we still have that amazing feeling with the mods and everything. :)

[@jasonking679]

I was sold the first time you went through the original bus stop chicane.

[@joefratianni8693]

The first lap when he got there and turned left I went, yes..that's how its supposed to be.

[@tonybrookes4524]

The game that made me buy my first wheel, as it was too tough without. Been hooked on racing sims ever since. Raceroom is my modern choice, but I often go back to GTR2 now and again. It has the best connected to the road feeling of any I've tried. Thanks for the vid.

[@splatracer7726]

Really good idea for a vid. I absolutely loved GTR2 at the time and I still do. Its turned into a very playable piece of history. You must try the Power and Glory Mod for it.

[@gulf908]

OK

[@Jupa]

That's a very good mod. Like first thing I thought when trying it out was that a game this old, with a mod, has NO BUSINESS with having such GOOD FFB in classic car racing. Insane. Crazy it can all be had for a fiver. In the UK that's two entire cans of Red Bull lol.

[@dennisw8026]

Would love to have you do a video on setting up GTR2 in 2021.

[@GTFan8899]

Getting it to run is actually not that hard. You just buy it on steam, put in a No-CD Patch (needed to get the Porsches and Ferraris, that are locked away otherwise due to licensing) and put the NT Core 4 GB Patch over the Application. Than you need to turn on compatibility options on GTR2.exe and GTR2_Config.exe: Run it in Windows XP SP3 and always as an administrator. That should be enough to get it going and get playing. Only thing that might be difficult is getting modern gear to run on it. I have a G27 for it, which works with it natively.

[@michaelklimek6393]

This title is a classic, I still play it to this day. I think you nailed it when you said it's as if Simbin decided to create a pure sim, not watered down for the masses. That's exactly what the appeal was back in the day (and now).

[@edteach3r]

Excellent video, Mike! I love the fact that you are delving into the classics too. The first race I ever saw in person was the 1968 South African GP (Jim Clark’s last F1 victory before his untimely death), and GPL was a dream come true for me when it was released in 1998. I am looking forward to your video with much excitement!

[@richardople]

GTR, GTR2 and GT Legends is what started me on my Sim Racing journey. Legendary Sim games. Love from Canada eh!

[@SimRacing604]

Hey 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@shovas]

It’s 2024 and I’m back here marveling at how much you were able to understand GTR2 with so little seat time

[@hellodaveyouknow]

In case no one has mentioned it already, the Power and Glory mod for GTR2 is a must try.

[@SimRacing604]

Cool, will do! Thanks man

[@victoryroadracer1790]

I’ve heard of the GTR series before. Thanks mike for this cool video I’ll definitely buy this to try it out so I can get more acquainted practice with sim racing in general. It’s great this sim has a training mode. Which more sims had this accessibility feature for newcomers.

[@ScottOmatic]

Back when race sims tried to mimic a real life series in every way imaginable, instead of a one size fits all kind of way with 100 half baked cars from 20 different categories.

[@GuyGamer1]

Assetto Corsa Competizione does exactly what you ask for.

[@theironwolf]

@@GuyGamer1 did they implement Safety Car? How about ghosting during formation, is that fixed? What's the state of flag rules? How rich is the penalty system nowadays, when I tried it a while ago it was very minimal. Lastly, how is the damage, do cars lose parts, engines burn, gearboxes fail?

[@romanmarmalyukov4428]

@@GuyGamer1 exactly which series does Assetto mimic? Its description is in the original post man.

[@reno9k]

@@romanmarmalyukov4428 What are you talking about? The entire game is based around a single series (ex-Blancpain/GT World Challenge).

[@morpheus9394]

Great to see you happy and smiling in this video. You seem like one of the nicest guys in the Sim racing community. Thanks again mate.

[@petouser]

GTR2 is a timeless classic. It has so many features like weather (which is simulated kinda sophisticated), and day-night change. Man, I spend so many years on that game, driving in leagues against other GTR2 players. What awesome memories that were. In offline mode you could even save the point you played to, just to continue on some other occassion. The only feature I missed in that game was online driver change. That's why sportcar racing was that popular on rFactor and not GTR2.

[@gomezthechimp1116]

GT Legends is still my favourite Simbin title. I really enjoy the mix of arcade style progression through the game, mixed with sim handling.

[@Pozer714]

100% agree, Race 07 too was/is great!

[@vMaxHeadroom]

What a great video for a blast from the past as this was such a great game!

[@SimRacing604]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words

[@SeaGLGaming]

You should check out nr2003. I know it's a nascar sim which you don't really cover, but it's physics still hold up, and the modding community has kept it alive with updated tracks, cars, and textures. A Next Gen Cup mod is even releasing in the near future. The indycar and redline gtp mods also are pretty great, although the redline mod doesn't support AI since it was an online competitive mod only. And it's completely free as well since it was forced to be abandoned when EA gained exclusive licensing causing Papyrus to close and reopen as iRacing. I still very much prefer nr2003 for nascar sim racing. Of course I'll play iRacing for online or Heat for career, but the amount of adjusting you can do with nr2003 to perfect the AI like reducing the draft distance for plate tracks and blocking out a line of code makes plate racing super close and intense going three wide and being stuck in the middle. I honestly still prefer its physics over iRacing NASCAR. Don't know why, but the car feedback is so much more informative on the edge than iRacing.

[@nickbauerly5438]

It was the death of NASCAR sim racing once EA took over.

[@faydulaksono]

nascar 2003 for pc ,?

[@speedsanti]

I still put in at least 5 hours a week on NR2003. Single greatest game ever made. That, GTR2, and RBR are the best and most accessible sims

[@Kenferrrell]

This was my go to game for years. It's even has a pretty good weather system

[@JURacing]

Great review! I did GTR2 for a year or so. Bit I am really exited to hear your thought in GPL, because I spent YEARS racing that. You might also try out the GPL Demo that has been made a couple of years ago.

[@SimRacing604]

Yeah, GPL is next on the list! Thanks for watching

[@CYON4D]

Awesome to see GTR 2 content. I started sim racing with Simbin's first GTR game and with GTR 2 they just perfected the formula. Hooked ever since. Another amazing older sim is Richard Burns Rally.

[@Sl1f3rDrag0n]

Great game and great points! I agree with you. If GTR2 could do all these features, why isn't at least some of them implemented in some way in more modern sims. That's why I like GTSport's track learning features. Someone completely new to motorsports and sim racing would probably find them useful

[@Dral.09]

I'm amazed it isn't raining!!!!! Feels always good to see a 604video!

[@octanejimmy]

GTR2 back to the legends of Sim Racing. Thanks for this. I got teary eyed seeing it again.

[@SixxiePlays]

Hi Mike, thanks for putting this on my radar and thanks for the awareness you bring to the sim racing community. Yes I agree there should be more ‘training style modes’ even for veteran simmers. For me who will grind away at the wheel for hours, I like the sense of immersion starting off as a rookie in training working my way up the main event. It also gives a sim more content, like GT Sport its training mode is like a totally separate sim! I love your articles on Race Department & always look forward to reading them!

[@walterconn5637]

GTR2 is my favorite. I wanted to comment that I raced in the UK GPL league years ago. GPL can be a challenge to set up. The mods make it possible to race a F1 career from 1965 - 69. They also have 1955 F1 mod and two years of Can Am. I gelled with the Can Am cars the most. GPL is the Grand Daddy of iracing

[@gs8494]

Nothing has given me more pleasure in PC sim racing than learning to master circuits and cars in GPL, so far ahead of its time it's not even funny.

[@jchamber73]

I love the pit board when you go by.

[@SimRacing604]

Yeah, it’s a great touch!

[@crabbitwife5463]

Thanks for turning me on to this. I had it back in the day, had no intention of playing it again, assumed it would be terrible today, but it is fantastic!! Cheers

[@nickygonzalez2276]

This game turned me into SimRacing like no other. I used to do mods for this also, so much that once I converted all of the GT1-GT-E-GT3 cars from shift2 to this. And since slightly mad studios was born out of what was left of simbin when they began. it took minimal effort getting the physics translated. Amazing tittle.

[@nickygonzalez2276]

I know the mechanics of this game so well. I can tell you that the AI. cheats to be able to keep up with you. The game gives them a higher grip level on every kind of surface there is. In one of my experiments removing that "Advantage" in grip and setting the AI to max. They overshot breaking points and apexes since they were not calculating them correctly...created some interesting scenarios xD hahahaha Also the tire model from shift 2 ported onto this engine was felt so strangely pleasant. Great video mate!

[@josecarlosmacedo1]

I think that the most incredible thing regarding this amazing GTR2 SimRacing is the multiple extensions and above all the various independent mods made by a vast community of fans, developed over all these years which helped to prolong its existence until today. In my umble opinion, this was one of the most imoortant secret of this awesome simracing game.

[@robertlee42770]

I agree.. GTR2 was the PC sim that got me in to league racing. It's still very relevant today, just as the three free (abandon-ware) titles are.. ie.. Grand Prix 4, Nascar Racing 2003 and the always relevant Richard Burns Rally. This time 2004-2010 were the golden years for PC racing sims. Lots of super excellent titles and ALL of them are able to be modded!!!

[@Jpilgrim30]

These games hold up exceptionally well. Sometimes the older graphics just seem very natural and run very smooth. It doesn’t look bad by any means.

[@jericosha2842]

Agreed

[@blklion100]

GTR2, GTL, and the original rFactor was what fully got me into simracing, and I'm proud to say that I still have it on my hard drive along with all the mods that I've downloaded. I would like to hear your opinion on Race and Race07.

[@mauleymaule]

This was my first experience with sim racing when I bought my DFGT all those years ago. I was amazed. I had no idea of the anniversary mod so back in we goooo!

[@robertjohnson-454]

I agree with you Mike about the driving experience being so important. I drive sims hoping to experience what it would be like if I were in the real car. To me physics are everything. Graphics, car titles, etc. are nice but it’s really all about the driving experience. Like you say I used to think as time went every title would improve and I always anticipated the next one but that isn’t always the case and I wonder sometimes why that’s true. Shouldn’t every title want to offer to best most realistic choice possible? It seems to me that the most dedicated people to sims would feel as we do. I can only hope that developers will here you comments and take them to heart as I feel there’s still room to reach actual greatness. Nice video Mike. Keep up the good work.

[@mijindani]

Oh man, the memories on this. One of my first sims also. Back in time I used it with a keyboard casu I didnt had a wheel then... guess I must give it a try with nowdays rig tho

[@impossibru5721]

This game actually introduced me to Simracing, I remember doing a time attack with a modded 996 Alzen and like you said the connection to the road is fantastic which some modern racing sims fail to do.

[@CarltonMelson]

GTR2 was 6 years old when I first discovered Sim racing. Its still my favorite sim to date and I still play it from time to time. I have so many Skins I made for this sim plus Mods and tracks ive downloaded. I still think this is the most supported Sim to date. There is a lot of content for this game and its still out there.

[@mt-kk1nt]

Great that you came up with this old grory. You really have to make an "how to setup your wheel and an ffb guide video for this great game. Ffb is quite tricky.

[@ApexVGear]

Something you didn't mention are the few thousand car and track mods that are (or were) available for it. I think there are still a few active groups where you can download them. I spent hours in GTR2, even after newer titles were being released. You can also edit how the cars are categorized, and even make new categories, and there were even modders adding "CSP-like" features to it. I still have my "mega-modded" version somewhere, but eventually Assetto Corsa consumed most of my time, with its' VR capability, it now has a few thousand mods and Content Manager and CSP. When I'm browsing through all the AC mods I have, I often think about GTR2, all its' mods, and how it was, for me, the solid predecessor to AC and many of the newer sims I use.

[@adityairawan1843]

What I love from GTR2 is, not only this game is a great sim like how people praise it to be, it's also a very good gateway to learn racing (even with bare minimum control; keyboard). It's enjoyable both by casual players and serious simracers. It offers great experience. It's easy enough to drive so newbies can enjoy it, but also hard to master so the pros can still feel challenged.

[@vsm1456]

totally agree

[@keitaauto]

Ay bro. I really enjoyed your video and commentary. Will definitely be tunning in more to your channel. Keep up the good work!

[@splatracer7726]

WOW - Because of your vid I revisited GTR2 - It's got VR through Crew Chief !!!! Happy Days !

[@mark-f4e6k]

Great video! You're a really nice content creator!!

[@andygreener3130]

I remember it fondly. I believe the tag line was “Easy to drive, hard to master”. You must try GT Legends Mike. If I had a spare corner for PC I’d run both still now. As it stands I’m stuck with the PS4 and PC2 and ACC. GT Sport never tempted me to try it because I knew what it was trying to do but could see it done poorly. GTR2 should be the datum point for all sim development.

[@Jupa]

This is the first time I tried a sim after getting my G29 and having no decent gaming PC's to plug it in. Prior to that I used the G29 on my PS4 with PC1. But I wanted the wheel mostly for PC Sim Racing, so GTR2 was my only option after borrowing my sisters laptop that had an ancient but dedicated AMD GPU. GTR2 is the reason why Catlunya is, to this day, my go to track for performing the fastest lap times. That was because GTR2 had Barcelona as it's first season race so I practiced like hell for it, it really got me immersed into sim racing. And that Catalunya track was burned into my muscle memory ever since. Since then, Sim Racing was really the specific motive that made me grind hard IRL as I wanted the best PC to run the the best VR games etc. I went from borrowing a laptop, to using my own MBP with an eGPU and Vega 56 card, to an actual PC, to my current rig with a 3070 FE and a 5900x. But in the process it had me started on my burgeoning tech retail company, where now I sell 3090's and other peripheries week to week. I don't know, just seeing this game took me on a memory trip where a lot of my life has changed drastically since I decided to spend my £300 savings on a G29, maybe about 2-3 years ago from today. It's insane, but I'm proud to say a lot of these things were due to my love for driving and sim racing. GTR2 being at the forefront of it all I suppose. Life is a wonder.

[@vsm1456]

great story!

[@MujoNovak]

GTR2 still rules even in 2022 !

[@WyldestZakk1980]

When you download the last patch (1.1) and install it manually, you will get the Porsches back into the game.

[@rosumin38]

I think the 10th anniversary patch does this as well.

[@optical10]

This is how I feel about Geoff Crammond's Grand Prix 4

[@hainesy67]

Been playing sims since microprose grand Prix days. I miss the feeling of weight . I miss the fact that you actually bought a complete game, not something that continually needs updates. I miss what once was. Don't get me wrong some great looking sims out there. Lol pc upgrades are a must to keep up these days making us all move forward but in many respects our sims we love have stagnated how did Sim Bin do this. I miss Sim Bin

[@sunalp2]

And so much add on content. Racing series, tracks, retro.

[@FPV_sk8]

Fantastic points and review! Thanks Mike! Some of the older sims are unbeaten in terms of physics.

[@morpheus9394]

I remember GTR 2 being a great Sim when I played it when it first came out but I didn't have a wheel at the time so it was too hard to enjoy with a controller. Might have to go back to it, if I get time. Thanks for the great video as per usual.

[@lespaul7261]

Big thank you first of all for making me re-install gtr2, with the 2 anniversary packs its awesome. And the HQ tracks and cars actually look good for it's age. The setup/config file that comes with the packs can be a bit daunting and tweaking the ffb, but its worth it as it unlocks everything. The game play and the racing is awesome, the feel in wet and dry conditions is brilliant and the choice and feels of the different tyres makes a massive difference if you pick the wrong set. The AI is really good too and its great to see cars fly of track when they misjudge a corner. Thanks Mike and anyone who's thinking of getting gtr2, don't think just get it and the 2 anniversary packs and have some awesome racing 👍👍

[@303storm]

Not only did I start sim racing with GTR2 but we had the first racing team and I learned to make a website for it. It's now 2024 and I have been self employed as web designer ever since and was able to live in the Caribbean and now Asia and all because I bought this sim.

[@jeffro503]

Wow Mike!! Dude......definitely , 100% get race 07' !! I still play that sucker. There are tons and tons of mods , easy on your machine and it's still awesome!

[@NevRS32]

Damn... Is one of the best of all time! The sound is incredible to this day...

[@hondaboy_jim2514]

Gt legends and race 07 are also amazing! Spend hours off racing with all the games off simbim. They did great. Still waiting till they drop a new game.

[@crpearson2004]

Isn't Raceroom their modern project?

[@garethhughes5745]

@@crpearson2004 Yep, Ian Bell was a founder of SimBim, he then was bought out of the share and founded SMS with pCars, while the other founders of Simbim moved onto Raceroom. Loved pCars 2 myself, still have it installed, I think its still the best. Race 07 was absolutely fantastic in its day.

[@Simlife101]

I would be happy if these big race sim like ACC and AMS 2 and Iracing and so on if they sold a separate training title, like the same sim but solely for training plus they would make so much money. Can always wish. Great video my friend

[@lap1068]

GTR 2 is what started my ‘hardcore’ sim racing addiction

[@nivracer]

I love playing GTR2 and GT Legends. I bought them when I didn't have a PC that could play modern games. And they are still amazing games.

[@tonybucca5667]

I still have CD copies of Superbike, and Superbike2001...they're what made me buy my first graphics card. Steering was with a joystick, and I would get winded after races. I'm going to Steam later and getGTR2. Thank you, Mike, for a great review!

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

This and rFactor were my bread and butter from 2007, until 2015. Epic sim.

[@reefinnyles]

Miss my buddies when I played this, good times! This was good and GTR Legends was great as well for the old cars

[@iRacerJared]

First proper sim I ever played what got me into sim racing coming from Gran Turismo

[@SimRacing604]

I was a GT guy too. But sadly I skipped GTR2. Never too late I suppose

[@tarmacterrorist.thepotato]

Love the fact you've got into GTR2 mate, its absoloutely ledgendary! And now finally we have another sim with damage like this had that you can scale to 200%, i.e. AMS2! Takes the racing to a whole new level!

[@aubreycolemanracing]

Okay, I think I need to stepback in time and try this out, thanks for the vid!

[@86billionneurons]

This sim blow my mind when I first booted it up back in the day. GTR1 and GTR2. I heard a new GTR is coming out at some point.

[@rickyspanish4792]

I've always really liked the graphics on this one for some reason. Maybe it's because it's so clear and vibrant or something.

[@SimRacing604]

Could be. My reference is more modern sims like AMS2 and PC2, which use a lot more effects to make the game “pop”

[@LordofGarnix]

You are talking of my heart. Played it for hours when it came out back then. Drove it with a joystick. Only R3E gives me the Same connection and feel for the cars. And those missing immersion features always anger me. I'm happy you mentioned GT-Sport. The effort this game puts into showing how to race and drive does more for simracing, than any other title (training in F1 Games is the closest to that). I never understood why GT-Sport is often looked down at, just because the cars are a Bit more easy to drive. The online racing is as real as it is in iRacing.

[@MrJr1976]

Please please PLEASE try Live For Speed. Great title (if a bit steep at $50 USD) and it has VR support

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

LFS is not even comparable to gtr2

[@MrJr1976]

@@Unknownmanufacturer LFS is good because every car is made within the sim. The cars were made to fit it so they all act how you think they should. Also, LFS came out 2 years before GTR2.

[@anessenator]

@@MrJr1976 I dunno man I don't like the idea of paying $50 for a game that's literally old enough to drive

[@MrJr1976]

@@anessenator There are ways to get it without paying the $50, but it's still REALLY good and the VR is a bonus

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

I'm still on and off this and rFactor. I too wish more modern sims had the feature list GTR2 had. So many good memories.

[@FeelingShred]

Wow... another racing game I never heard of... definitely adding to my Check Later list... awesome... I played a lot of racing games in the past, mostly out of boredom really, was never too heavy into gaming, but only now I realize how racing games can be used as powerful tool for Focus and Concentration, these games will require such focus from you that they will put you in the zone, it's like meditation without the boring parts LOL I was meditating without realizing

[@FeelingShred]

Played a lot of Gran Turismo 2 because of the diversity and replay value added by the Career Mode (try with different cars, etc etc) But I still have to find a racing game with better Exhaust Sounds than the Playstation version of Need For Speed High Stakes (the PC version is a rehashed NFS3, don't even bother...) They really nailed the sound effects in High Stakes

[@PhantomMark]

All the good feelings in this, and other games of this period come with custom FFB profiles, get into the advanced settings and you can totally transform things for the better, or worse as well, invest time there for sure is the message. Simbin was the class leader at the time, and Doug Arnao (our physics guy for the GTR and GTL games) did a great job with the GTR/GTL titles. Race/Race07 had very deep levels of authenticity that will only be detected by the very deepest players in terms of physics, including tuning the lap times as close as possible to the real lap time, and tuning the drag levels on the cars to match "exactly" with the speed traps and the real cars, overall the feel has stood the test of time quite well I think. I think people misunderstand the physics in Race/Race07 as "too easy" initially - and they are relatively easy on default setups, things only get interesting and really dynamic when you start to customise your setups and start pushing for final few tenths of a lap in speed, that's when things start getting really tough.

[@Sir-Prizse]

Yep, was my first racing simulation... and I enjoyed it hard back then.

[@AntoniusTyas]

I still do jump into GTR2 if I want to do GT3 racing, there are several great GT3 mods out there. Even after so many years I am still enjoying it, even if I never do any online competition.

[@Dan_Minton]

This was the game that made me realise simracing was going to be a phenom....man I had some seriously good league racing back in 06, 07. An absolute masterpiece.

[@SIMRACINGTRUCKER]

Totally agree. It's especially good with a Direct Drive wheel. Great video Mike 👍🏿

[@MythionVR]

I love this game, my only issue is with the track lol. "it's not that long!" "it's not that smooth around that corner!", I loved it back in the day, still do!

[@petereliasson4734]

GTR2 and GT Legends was my favourite sims for years. After that Race07 with Dlc-s. Nowadays my favourite is Raceroom in VR.

[@Bonkikavo]

GTR2 has some magic in it.

[@fredscratchet1355]

Saw this and downloaded it Mike. Just got to get it to run now.

[@lukebraddford3287]

The mods were so awesome. Night time spa with yellow headlights on a Porsche. Yes please

[@fredsas12]

The main cars in GTR 2 are GT2 class (GT) and GT3 (NGT). Man I would love to see an official GT2 DLC for Project Cars 2. GT2, especially with the Chrysler Viper GTS-Rs and Lister Storm GTs as they are some of my most favourite GT cars ever. I raced GTR-2 quite a lot back in the day on a site called Race2Play. So many awesome memories.