The New Exhaust Laws Are Silly

[@AlexMartini.]

Subscribbbbeee - bit.ly/3kXgWr0 Wisconsin has its negatives; like temperature that hurts your face and sun that's as elusive as the F430's reliability, but at least I don't have to worry as much about these laws as my poor California friends :(. PS, please watch the whole thing and drop off a comment as FAST AS YOU CAN :)

[@Sample_246]

The only real big negative for Wisconsin as far as cars go is the weather. We got nearly a foot just south of Appleton after it was mid 40s the day before and after. Car culture is fine and aside from automation, I have never heard from any of my car friends getting an exhaust ticket they didn't deserve.

[@adamhayden5152]

Same here in Mn, I’m in SE MN cops don’t really care about much. I don’t see stance cars around here though.

[@shrxmprl2250]

I always forget you're only like 2 hours from me

[@dryheavekyle389]

Wooooo Cheese for the Win!!! 🎉

[@ryangold8517]

Problem: What if your car stock beats the legal limit? If this still counts, we ban together and let our supercars roar loud, Who's with me?!

[@danielyoung2341]

I live in the good ole Commonwealth of Virginia. I was pulled over about a year ago for a “Highly illegal and modified exhaust” that was supposedly violating state laws. Pulled up the existing law and showed the OE manufacturer stamp of the ORIGINAL exhaust. Got a written warning for “driving aggressively”. I was doing 27 in a 30…. Ain’t it grand?

[@Luke-lj6ts]

It’s all about control.

[@GSC-Operator-chan]

They want your money and by God they have a quota to fill

[@mroversteer3739]

Ofc its Virginia. Gonna probably move my ass to Maryland so i don’t have to deal with this shit.

[@charlesowens8724]

​@@mroversteer3739 if Virginia doing it, What makes you think Maryland won't do the same. You guys already have emissions soo.

[@grindersandgears3445]

@@mroversteer3739 Lol, Md isn't going to be any better, I assure you.

[@RascalCatify]

As a California native and someone who got "busted" back in the day I am sorry this is going on elsewhere. Funny thing is that I now have a Harley and that thing is so much louder than just about any car and they dont care.

[@blakew5672]

Its easier to make a case that loud exhaust is a safety measure on a motorcycle. It’s not easy to justify why your car is waking up the suburbs at 3am as it drives on the SHARED space of a public road

[@idunnomayne1765]

@@blakew5672 soo your saying that when loud ass harley does the same thing at 3AM in the suburbs and probably wake up more people in the process because its waaay louder than most cars on the street its 100% fine and you will wake up happy and be like ohh he is just being safe :) 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@blakew5672]

@@idunnomayne1765 “So you’re saying” Uh, no. Never said any such thing, which is why you had to jump to that conclusion. It’s equally as annoying. If you don’t think motorcycle riders can make a more convincing case that it’s for their own personal safety, then you’re kidding yourself. Damn near every state runs a “watch out for motorcycles” safety campaign every summer. Try again

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

We do care actually, believe it or not. I will freely admit my exhaust is modified, and it is definitely audible. But it is nowhere near what I would call loud. It’s got a factory cat, and a custom 3” exhaust with a good quality muffler… loud enough for me to hear it and have fun, but I don’t get headaches while I drive, i can actually listen to my stereo, and usually it’s quiet enough that no one would think of it. Even when I’m flooring it in boost, it’s noticeable but reasonable outside. IMO this is the best course to take, especially for street driven vehicles. I’ve had the ever loving shit scared out of me by some bang tune BMWs, Hondas, and slew of silly Harleys. Those are well beyond the “loud pipes save lives” marker, and end up scaring people and getting adrenaline going, which is never a recipe for a safe driver. Usually I’ll pull off and let my heart slow down before I keep going, because I’m aware that I can’t safely drive in that state… but most people aren’t aware of that We should really change the saying to “audible pipes save lives”

[@isaiahharris1029]

Louder than a jet plane they say. Clearly, he's never heard how loud jets actually are. Way Louder than any 4 banger.

[@lwenbmw4152]

Least dramatic news reporter:

[@Fred_the_1996]

Least delusional reporter:

[@aidanpysher2764]

Former Air Force mechanic here - these fools have never been within 10 miles of a full afterburner F22 or B1. Those things are brutally loud. Jimmy's VQ35 down the street is just annoying. An actual jet will cause hearing loss.

[@Getta0422]

@@aidanpysher2764 the solution to loud exhausts annoying old people, just deafen them :DDD

[@aidanpysher2764]

@@Getta0422 I ride an old Valkyrie with Cobra 6-6 pipes. It's one of the loudest bikes I've ever ridden. My LS430 also has a muffler and resonator delete, and it's also exceptionally loud. They repel tailgaters and even gets a deaf person's attention.

[@yeetboi-os5kb]

Politicians trying to not make a random problem out of thin air (Very impossible)

[@wackadoodle8951]

Insane challenge only 1 percent can pull it off

[@Perry....]

No. They know what they're doing. The more they pretend to focus on "problems" like this, the more we don't pay attention to them shagging us and taking all of our money because we're too busy fighting each other.

[@169abr]

All the problems in this Mad Max world and these out of touch politicians are worried about exhaust laws :|

[@braedentaramasco7067]

because if they focused on the actual problems they wouldn’t be able to launder money and selfishly horde money for themselves

[@169abr]

@@braedentaramasco7067 god forbid the country be fair lol

[@johnpulawski35]

inconsiderate people ruined everything. you can blame them for draconian laws

[@169abr]

@@johnpulawski35 partially correct, crooked people ruined everything, the EPA is so backwards they lick their own ass at this point and it’s done under the guise of being “green” and “eco friendly”

[@soldier7394]

​@John inconsiderate? like people with obnoxiously loud exhausts?

[@jojobinks1155]

Where I live, the cops even sometimes come to the meets to make sure we’re not being too rowdy and then go around and look at the cars and make conversations and talk about builds

[@perplxxd]

the problem is the people who take loud ass cars and annoy people in neighborhoods and rev their shitbox at like 4 am.

[@Thinginator]

As someone who likes loud exhaust in theory, even I have to admit that loud exhausts are super irritating when those who have them don't use any discretion. We really need more valved exhaust systems so that they can be quiet in residential areas and at night, but still open them up when nobody else is around or when you're at the track. Really, every problem facing the car community right now is due to people who don't know how to be courteous. Don't endanger people with reckless shenanigans, don't irritate people with excessive loudness, and you won't give people a reason to come after you.

[@169abr]

If you have to rely on the good will of a common citizen, it usually won't go as planned sadly.

[@cybermonk-i]

@@Thinginator you are so right about the discourteous people ruining the car scene for others. i was in the skateboarding community around the mid 2000s and people saw us as hooligans because of the dickbags that ruined the image of skaters around the late 90s after alot of self policing in the community things drastically changed around mid 2010s and the stigma no longer exists around skateboarders i am glad the new generation of skaters don't have to deal with the shit we had to deal with.

[@thefox6324]

And go over the 95 limit in Australia we have cars before 1984 can be 96 decibels and after only 90 hardly anyone breaks those laws here so i think our government won't be absolute fools and follow suit therefore just don't get greedy with sound we don't

[@perplxxd]

@@cybermonk-i exactly. just like the issue with takeovers.

[@jorgenegrete199]

We need a car guy to join the council, someone has to take a stand for us 😭

[@flameburstgt6503]

and a bike guy for good measure

[@matthew_natividad]

That would be Craig Lieberman

[@sopretty43vr]

a lot of police are, too bad they aren’t the ones on council

[@SykotikShadow]

Yet talk about regulating guns and they go bat shit. How dare you try to say what I can do yet they want people to do as they say and will according to them.

[@hobog]

Car people are default, throughout Anglosphere councils. Cities need more car-free spaces and less road noise

[@Tewty11]

The issue is much bigger than just exhaust, since what will happen you will see generic ''modification'' laws, which means it would include all stuff like lowering springs, aftermarket wheels, brakes etc etc. Its potentially a big issue, lets not forget the whole performance industry thats at risk from this.

[@Holozaur]

except its not. Im all for modifying cars but I do like what the TUV has done in Germany. Parts are TUV certified and laws are in place to ensure vehicle safety. Plain and simple. And it works! you can have a track monster so long as you meet spec. The young drivers that can barely afford parts throwing slammed springs on the car or crappy stretched tires on a 10 inch wheel with 10 degrees of camber are a safety problem. Exhaust loudness is a nonsense but I can see it from other people's perspective. Again i have a modded rs5 with a rear resonator delete. My exhaust is valved, can be quiet when desired not quiet otherwise. Works great.

[@GIXXRBRAH750]

In australia if you lower your car lower than 100mm from the lowest point of your car you’re illegal

[@SI0AX]

@@GIXXRBRAH750 Australia has some weird laws but I see there is a bit of a trade off. Don't remember the details, but you can have a certain limit quantity of air intake modifications, like have a turbo installed on a non-turbo car counts as 1 and certain other parts of the car. I d o know the 100mm ride height is very annoying because it limits what modifications you can do to a certain part of the car, like having to get very large wheels and very thin tires to have the wheels as low a point as possible or something. Thin tires suck because they blow up more easily.

[@GIXXRBRAH750]

@@SI0AX yes australia is a crap country mate I hate it we get labelled as worse than a criminal

[@Firefrei]

As long as sema exists they can’t do much more than exhaust or environmental shit

[@tespenkr9924]

They never went after the guys in McLarens or Porsches, but nailed the guy with a stock Elantra N.

[@callmetimmy3004]

I like how they used all "ricer" exhausts 😂😂

[@AlexMartini.]

RIGHT?! hahahah, or the fact that the videos aren't from CA.

[@jameshaulenbeek5931]

Yep... Don't mind all the straight piped pickups, mustangs, and dodges....

[@Muhluri]

@@jameshaulenbeek5931 let em roll coal

[@stitchk2755]

@@AlexMartini. I haven't even heard any crazy loud 4 cylinders in my area for awhile. Its all the "riced out" mall crawler and bro-dozer pick-up trucks running straight pipes or just open headers.

[@UpperRobin29]

@@AlexMartini. Bruh all those clips were pulled straight from a video that went viral years ago titled something like "Ricer exhaust compilation"

[@AcuraLvR82]

This video makes me want to buy that hood exit header for my k24 even more.

[@lokomono89]

😂😂😂 I was thinking of the same thing, and drive it in the most populated areas

[@skanetic]

Without some sort of exemption, VA banning aftermarket mufflers would also mean you have to purchase an OEM exhaust if something damages your factory system so good luck if your car is out of production or you don't have the kind of money OE systems cost.

[@SAMPLETEXT285]

Simple fix if you really wanted aftermarket just buy your exhaust out of state or have it shipped to friends house out of state then pick it up Or even simpler just go to the junkyard there's plenty of cars with aftermarket exhausts you just have to look underneath

[@tanner1543]

A law being put in place to send more money to big business, sadly not that shocked.

[@collinmccoy9650]

Can’t ban steel tubes, my guy. I’ll go to the plumbing section at lowes and weld me a straight pipe. They don’t want me to get a muffler? I’ll just run it without lol that’s their dumb fault for not letting me get one besides, the only part of your exhaust that’s integral to the car itself is cats and up. The cats are only necessary because of laws and computers so if something does happen, couple nuts and bolts, saw, and/or finding a good welder. Or do what @SAMPLE TEXT said and ship it out of state to in state but I’m cheap so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@samaramorgan8023]

​@@collinmccoy9650 that....that's still aftermarket?

[@blutygergaming8789]

My Taurus SHO is a 93, and you can't find any OE parts any more

[@jakobesutton2795]

I'm literally studying environmental science so I can curb stomp the EPA, I'm two years away from my bachelors so I'm hoping I can help us enthusiasts keep our cars the way we want them to be.

[@mantis_toboggan_md]

Godspeed.

[@hobog]

What an affront to basic ethics of environmental science. You can preserve Motorsports and enthusiast diving, while acknowledging how combustion engines are not environmentally friendly

[@jakobesutton2795]

@@hobog very much so but you could also look at the long term factors of electrified vehicles, it's not feasible but everyone wants a solution today whilst holding a hollow veil over their heads, they all want an answer but a lot of people don't even understand the sustainability factor in it all. Besides, testing out new stuff on other modes of transportation such as trains would be a better approach to the issue. A lot of people think I might be wasting my time but I've had many people, some were car enthusiasts whilst others were not, agreed with me. Electric vehicles have been a thing since the 1800's and quite frankly they could do better with their innovation.

[@datwokstaro_o1333]

I’m so glad I live in the sticks and these laws can’t touch me here 😂

[@beelzebub425]

Stg😅

[@AlexMartini.]

Where do you live?!

[@datwokstaro_o1333]

@@AlexMartini. North Wisco bout a 45 min drive from U.P border

[@MurkyWaters677]

Same out in boonies of west TN. No one gives a shit out here. Myself and folk that live in my area have semis pass on the highway near our homes. No one cares a lick. We hear fucking ATVs and shit blaring down the back roads, no one gives a shit. Its nice af to be a car guy or gal out here. Plenty of long straights to some quick pulls if your feeling froggy too.

[@VNM-mr8fh]

​@@MurkyWaters677 I'm in Middle TN and it's the same out here, lots of Twisties, highways, and very few mod laws.

[@LazyElectron407]

California: Hey guys, if you wanna smoke some crack we have designated spots for you, and it comes with a free crack pipe! (Civic with aftermarket exhaust goes by) California: That's fucking illegal! (in Dana Whites voice)

[@DrDornon]

In my area, they use exhaust laws as an excuse to pull you over, question you and possibly search you. I've been pulled over tons of times for "exhaust" and had the cop lie to my face about the law in order to see my information, where I was headed, who's in the car, etc, yet they never wrote my a ticket for it.

[@RERM001]

Man, now it all makes sense now! All of them pigs only need excuses to put their snouts where they aren't asked!

[@peaceable263]

If it was the same department multiple times I'd say get legal involved.

[@justanothertroll9205]

Welcome to comunism

[@DrDornon]

@@peaceable263 I wouldn't be the first. They were sued by a man that was beaten while handcuffed. He won and the force kept the officer on. The same officer has also been involved in other instances and isn't allowed to testify in court. They have an officer on the force that accidently discharged his weapon into the side of a citizens car. The same department just lets serious criminal cases sit around and never do anything about it. Small town police are trash.

[@epicunicat20]

@Peace Able even if it was different departments you should still sue. What they did is illegal and a violation of your rights. Get that money and spend it on more car mods.

[@brandoxic8354]

My biggest issue absurd exhaust laws is that it opens way to a very slippery slope of outlawing modifications altogether. It starts with exhaust, then they crack down on how low you can be, your tires, your "non-EPA approved" tune etc until we're basically left with "Stock or ticket"... And even then there are people out there getting tickets and losing their cars even when they are stock. That guy with the Hyundai comes to mind.

[@beans4269]

That Hyundai elantra N 😢

[@bluejay3140]

Laws against modded cars.... suck

[@AlexMartini.]

Laws against cars...suck.

[@okexotics]

Ask the cop Did you change the oil filter? Maybe got a K&N filter! Write him a ticket for his modified car

[@bluejay3140]

@@AlexMartini. Agreed. I can see some safety regulations, like don't drive a vehicle that is 90% rust and Will kill someone. I can see don't have a straight piped v10 go all out at 2am in the suburbs. I can see speed limits. But.... this has gone WAY too far

[@SAMPLETEXT285]

It makes me wanna rebel and break the law on purpose ngl

[@Dr.Mcstaby]

@@bluejay3140 na even some speed limits are jokes, all highways should be 80mph and if it was up to me we would have some autobahns as well.

[@phdjharmacist]

I bet I can yell louder than 95db. I'll make it a goal of mine to absolutely scream my lungs out at a db camera.

[@albertaguonjr6716]

There’s a time to let it eat and a time not to. Just respect those around you because not everyone likes what your car sounds like. I have a modified exhaust on my 5.7 hemi ram 1500. But I don’t smash the gas everywhere I go. Btw, great job on your channel and all the content!💯 Keep it coming!🙏🏽💯🤙🏽

[@AlexMartini.]

Means a lot man, thank you! We're going to keep trying to post as much as possible! I try to be as quiet as possible when there's families around. But if the kids want a rev, then I rev :p

[@someoneelse242]

Exactly. The grocery store lot isn't a location to Rev a car. Ubsurd what the ticktock gen is doing.

[@njshift]

I agree there’s a time and place where a loud exhaust is permissible however there’s plenty of people who’ll be pissed regardless. Those perpetually offended types are dead set on ruining this for every enthusiast.

[@tirdkat6104]

Finally a person with a brain. It's too bad that morons out there just think louder is better and love the attention they get.

[@doug7040]

Maybe get a penis enlargement surgery so we can sleep. Thanks.

[@alexesparza5384]

I have a harley with straight pipes on it, cops don't seem to give a shit 🦅🇺🇸

[@lordjuvenile9068]

In North Carolina exhaust noise isnt a set number, but just if a police officer or judge THINKS its too loud, so you are really rolling the dice every day.

[@sully1626]

Though they also don't seem to care too much. Never gotten pulled over for exhaust here.

[@DatNinjaGuyD]

i love my state :D

[@lwenbmw4152]

@@sully1626 That's the good thing about this, but if you met a petty one they could just consider every car they met as "too loud" and you can't do anything.

[@ThatOneCatNyx]

@@sully1626 I have accidentally been running open headers for a few weeks (damn BMW heavy exhausts and this week 100lb body), and none of the cops here have cared yet. One gave me a thumbs up too XD

[@Kwijibob]

If it passed inspection they do not care. It will draw attention and get you pulled over for other things though.

[@CryoTechh]

I just got a warning today for "loud exhaust" in wisconsin. I have mufflers. The officer told me I couldn't have anything louder than completely stock. I think he was just upset about my cam.

[@MatthewPlaisance]

Loud exhausts are a safety feature, especially for small cars and motorcycles, especially these days when everybody's driving all these huge SUVs and trucks and theyre distracted by playing on their phones, the loud exhaust is just saying "hey, I'm here since you probably can't see me"

[@jackhwthorne]

Seriously, I saw my Corvette driving down the road for the first time, and it looks tiny compared to a Nissan Sentra, much less a bit expedition

[@toulee8051]

I have a weak meak and mild horn. So if I need to get the attention of others around, I just damn near RED LINE my engine

[@juwanhowardhll8019]

@@jackhwthorne i agree with that i saw one and it is tiny

[@Justdriv3]

My loud exhaust on my mustang has saved me alot of times from being run off the road

[@madmatt2024]

Loud cars save lives

[@Tintingsupremacy]

U are not catching me on my motorcycle 😂😂😂

[@edgiestofcars]

Everything’s getting banned before I can even get my first car, perfect timing! 😢😂

[@dylonabubo7513]

sorry, kid 😅😕

[@mertulasdamlatv4166]

I have same exact problem

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

To be fair, the people don't bother to do anything and letting the people in power to do what they want. Its reasons why especially in California there's too many stupid laws becauss no one is saying anything about it nor doing anything to fight against it.

[@h_matt6997]

Same here

[@cckiller0053]

Me too, I haven't bought me a car yet, but hey, I sure don't care, I'm from Louisiana, we don't have that many exhaust laws. We got loud diesel trucks, straight piped Silverados, a miata with a loud exhaust and V6 muscle cars and most of them have loud exhausts. So yeah, I think we're just chilling, but then again, I live on the rural side where government laws hardly apply.

[@rjantti83]

Have you seen Demolition Man where they get ticket by machines out in public for swearing? 🤣

[@Sample_246]

How is this sound meter ticket not prone for abuse? Like could I park outside the cameras view and rev bomb when some tech bro drives by in his model 3 and give him a ticket?

[@Luke-lj6ts]

😂😂😂

[@henrytanto]

in addition if your car is loud enough you could activate it even after you’ve left the cameras view so it gets some other guy for your straight pipe gti with a pop tune

[@Thinginator]

You don't even have to park outside of the camera's view, just figure out where to place a hidden loudspeaker and find a way to make it exceed 95 db every time a Tesla drives by.

[@foodhatesme]

Unfortunately we have cameras that can see where different sounds are coming from, and they're incredible accurate so this wouldn't work.

[@13vex]

Or even just having two cars pass at the same time next to each other, how do you tell which is the loud one? The one with body kits? Cuz if that’s the case my stock (looking) golf is gonna run away scot free

[@rexfaktor2898]

Imagine a world with strict term limits for all politicians and a ban on automatic transmissions...

[@Antspray1]

The problem isn't just old people Alex. I'd say there's a growing amount of young people that don't care about cars at all and would like nothing more than ice to be banned all together.

[@fcccc23]

I think ik what ur talking about but they don't say remove all ICE cars, they want walkable streets and actually good public transportation. Which is something we all should want cause there's way too many people that get too emotional, can't drive for crap in thier 4 ton SUV/Mega Trucks of deaths and don't deserve thier licenses

[@ghoulbuster1]

Those are just ignorant zoomers that took the tesla pill without realizing all the problems with EVs, we gotta educate them.

[@TheoHawk316]

@@ghoulbuster1 Lol my generation can't stand driving anything, much less something they'd have to actually pay attention to XD I have an F-150 that you can shift manually (pre-paddles but same concept) and dang you have to pay attention. If they have to look away from their phones for five seconds, they screech like a toddler. If you do anything that distracts them from their abysmal tiktok vids and music, they scream. All of my friends are like that too, just without the tiktok and brat-like behavior.

[@JuanTomlinson472]

Snowflakes

[@JuanTomlinson472]

​@@TheoHawk316 driving in general you have to pay attention lol

[@Meekmillan]

I have a STRONG feeling those cameras are just gunna get destroyed lmao

[@largebills337]

Not about safety or noise or pollution or anything else but money. These camera traps print money and they will use any excuse 🤑🤑🤑

[@grindersandgears3445]

And control. They won't raise 60 yr old speed limits either bc then they can't milk people for driving speeds that are perfectly reasonable for cars that no longer have drum brakes on all 4 corners.

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

@@grindersandgears3445 ironically, the speed limits were faster back then. Oil crisis and the federally "suggested" 55mph speed limit and it's consequences are ridiculous. Engineers designed highways to travel at about 70mph safely. But states realized how much money they made off tickets, so they are reluctant to raise speed limits

[@Conranos]

Regardless of anyone's opinion on guns, the car community needs to copy that community's playbook because we are dealing with a similar issue legislatively. Any restriction that gets passed will almost never be repealed by anything other than a massive lawsuit. Any restrictions we have now will always be pushed to be made tighter. And the people pushing for them will never listen to car enthusiasts, no matter how good of an argument we make.

[@Thinginator]

The gun community has constitutional protections though, which is a pretty darn good defense. We have a harder battle on our hands.

[@Conranos]

@Thinginator5000 I agree. I think the strongest argument we could make along constitutional lines is along the lines of the First Amendment. In particular, the barring of government from limiting freedom of speech, and by extension the freedom of expression, as well as the right to peacefully assemble.

[@grindersandgears3445]

@@Thinginator The 2a may as well have been written on TP with how these treasonous politicians wipe their asses with it. Every gun law is unconstitutional, and there are hundreds if not 1000s. And he's right about it being death by 1000 cuts, and these days it's encroaching into everything, they want to control our entire lives.

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

@@Thinginator lol. LMAO even. You think the constitution has protected gun rights?

[@Thinginator]

@@Conranos So... if we claim that car meets are a peaceful protest against increasing automotive legislation, and everyone actually behaves, then they can't stop us from peacefully assembling?

[@Franke609]

I recently got pulled over and ticketed for “noisy muffler” in New Jersey. Any stock hellcat is louder than my car. These laws are out of control!

[@manoftehsea]

I'm conflicted on this. On one hand, I love hearing my own car (who doesn't) but I don't need to hear someone's clapped out 100hp civic from 3 blocks away. Time and place for it. When I get the chance I'll likely install a valved system on my own car

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

Must be nice to have that kinda dough

[@bigbrown2690]

You say that until you see the price of a valved exhaust😂 then you just become one of us with a permanently loud exhaust.

[@willis7148]

There’s so much better things to worry about in America right now, it baffles me that govts are even stressed over this.

[@urbanizeddreams]

The problem is a few bad apples ruining it for everyone else. Whenever I have an aftermarket exhaust, I know it's louder than stock, so when entering a neighborhood at night, I drive chill. Unfortunately....a lot of people do the opposite...they purposely rev the car out at 2:00am in the neighborhood and annoy everyone....this happens a lot in my area personally.....so yeah I love modified exhausts, but at the same time....I'm not against them just banning them altogether since a lot of the drivers have zero respect for others around them.

[@black_n5492]

This is my take too. A lot of drivers have proven they aren't responsible enough to handle the freedom to drive with modified exhausts. And I don't think framing this as an old person issue makes sense either. It's just good old common sense, right time and place and respect/consideration for others who may not share the same passion as you. There's a time and place to let your engine sing. Just not every single time you're on the road at all hours

[@soldier7394]

​@Black_n54 you mentioned "passion" I'm a huge car enthusiast (the kind who actually knows stuff about how cars actually work) but obnoxiously loud exhausts are Damaging to people's ears and frigging annoying. That's why I don't call myself a "car guy" because 90% of "car guys" are just arrogant selfish douchebags that don't actually know anything about how cars work.

[@blakew5672]

100% I’ve had numerous, VERY loud cars in my past. I wasn’t a nuisance with them. Less people would care if the owners of those loud cars operated them like they have consideration for the rest of the community. I also living in an area that was easier to do that in than a densely populated suburban center. Driving a loud car through an area with children out playing in yards? Well, be aware that loud exhaust makes the average person think you’re driving faster than you are. People don’t like what they perceive to be wreckless driving around their children and pets. Driving in the middle of the night? People that have to work regular hours don’t care for being woken up by a young, unemployed, school-aged kid/adult cruising the town at 3am on their summer break. Having fun setting off car alarms by rev bombing your car in park in garages? Again, that pisses people off. There’s more people with “normal” exhausts than loud ones….they can and will out-vote you.

[@black_n5492]

@@blakew5672 Yep. I wish Alex's take came from this angle. They will outvote us. We're a minority and as the law continues moving in the direction of restricting what we can/can't do with our cars, that's it. It hardly if ever will go back

[@MarksTech]

LMAAAOOOO as im watching this video, my neighbor started up his camero and started revving it. im not even kidding. this moment is magical. im definitely buying a lotto ticket today.

[@portrad]

I literally have to have car parts shipped to another work location in Reno, NV. Then drive 4 hours to pick up my parts so I can enjoy my car here in California

[@Godeepgts11]

That's absolutely insane But I completely understand / support it

[@festiveerode1651]

I get all the illegal stuff shipped to family out of state then they ship it to me in CA haha. The lot of them can piss off, I'll have my headers, cat delete, and catback exhaust.

[@portrad]

@@festiveerode1651 I guess this is modern car culture huh lol?

[@festiveerode1651]

@@portrad In Cali if you get parts that won't pass smog, you cannot ship them to a Cali address, it's illegal. My headers are CARB 50 legal, a cat back is still legal in Cali, just the cat delete pipe had to be shipped out of state and I drive a car that gets about 35MPG so really I'm not doing any harm using it. But to answer your question from personal experience, yeah. In Cali atleast 🤷‍♂

[@spreaddeezhazelnutz7511]

​@Festive Erode That and the whole smog situation here too. Shoutout to the brave souls out there who run crooked smog shops in CA. They're doing God's work for modern car guys. Fuck the state. 😂

[@kennerd9312]

loud pipes saves lives. As a harley owner... loud pipes have saved me more than once. I can grab the clutch and dump the throttle and people know I am there when they missed me in their mirror.

[@Koishishibaman]

I get it. Sport bikes also. Many time I couldn't see them, but heard them. Owned 3 Miatas. One I raced. Real small, hard to see. All had exhaust, and a air horn

[@701garage]

I like North Dakota exhaust law. It says you need a muffler.

[@danielhicks3348]

Got a straight piped duramax and only got a warning when I first bought it. Literally got it home in Jamestown and got pulled over for exhaust but never got told about it again

[@701garage]

@@danielhicks3348 Every motor vehicle must at all times be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and annoying smoke, and no person may use a muffler cutout, bypass, or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway. I have a Muffler that you can put inside the pipe take a picture of when you install it and take it to court if you ever get a ticket.

[@jerrylang7721]

Only if government put this much effort in keeping kids safe at school. 🤔

[@pleasestfu4801]

There is no money in that. How will our politicians afford a 4th beach house by protecting children?

[@NightPwnGaming]

I feel like I can understand why they're coming after us. Car culture lately has been more about proving how stupid we are at car meets, can they hear my Subaru three neighborhoods over, car takeovers. It's so easy for the common person to paint all of us in a bad light when dipshits are acting like this.

[@joshuaho3150]

The whining about CA is also hilariously out of date. It comes from AB1824 which went into effect 2018 before promptly getting repealed in 2019 maybe 6 months after it took effect. Absolutely trivial to get around CA exhaust noise laws which is why I hear straight piped G37s doing 2 step launches at 2 AM every night.

[@mx_wettam5882]

Virginia- bans aftermarket mufflers Civic owners- what’s a muffler?

[@howieewalt1322]

First of all, I find it absolutely hilarious that I've seen every single clip they used in that news segment. Second of all, thank you Alex! I have long trashed the Harley community as the most absurdly loud and obnoxious community. I think they give the entire automotive industry a terrible look. And somehow they typically go unchecked by the public, or grouped in with us. Third of all I have an absurdly loud Civic. (Only when I hit Vtec yo, though) BUT If I accelerate normally it's not that bad. HOWEVER, If I pass by someone walking their dog, I'll clutch in. A women and child? Clutch in or hold the revs so it's not offensive as I go by. I also don't sit at lights revving my car. If I want to rev the hell out of it or 'drive aggressively', or bang off redline, I go into the countryside where nobody gets offended. Or I do it when there's nobody around. Why? Because I was not always a car enthusiast. As a matter of fact, I despised loud exhaust in much of a way that a Karen would. I hated people that would blow by you and shatter your eardrums, honestly I still kind of do. So I can fully understand why someone would want less douchebags with loud exhausts around. I do too!

[@artlife6210]

that tuner backfiring is great because we all can identify the typical crackle tuner as a doofus without even meeting them...

[@dj-san8309]

Hey lawmakers, how about instead of targeting those who care enough to modify their cars, target those who don't care to maintain their cars. I have an "aftermarket" exhaust on my car, and I've heard belt squeal and exhaust leaks louder than mine. Also, I would love for them to define "aftermarket" because if they wanna use that as the blanket term, then that means I'm not allowed to even buy a cheaper alternative to OEM even if its meant to do the same job ASSUMING the part hasn't been discontinued because my car is more than 10 years old. Muffler shops would probably go out of business because they'd still have to buy and sell OE parts, and those aren't readily available. Then again, this is probably a way for them to push new ICE/EV cars into every household when producing EV's has been proving difficult for a lot of long standing manufacturers (I.E. Chevy recalling Bolt EV's to replace batteries).

[@wackadoodle8951]

How about they focus on actual issues like the rampant drug and homeless problem

[@spp6849]

@@wackadoodle8951 lol theres no money to be made there. theyre clearly trying to suck their population dry.

[@thaitichi]

Oh no! People won't be able to hear my car go 'vroom'.

[@joeromano6549]

I had a wrx with a grimmspeed DP and an invidia Q300. I will be putting an exhaust on my golf r since I can't hear it at all in the cabin. I think a lot of exhausts sound sick, including the one I had. I do live on a busy street though and there are some MFs that specifically rev the piss out of their engines in front of my complex at like 3-5am and it wakes me up. Typically older german V8 or newer american muscle. I think crossplane and flat plane V8 sound great in their own ways, but I never thought I would be able to differentiate the two since I am firmly in the modified 4 banger crowd. If we could specifically target the "Midnight Redliners" in residential areas, I'd be ok with that.

[@bcbjbggjh9102]

i like fast cars and loud cars, but some cars are too dam loud, they're louder then harley's ... it's ridiculous

[@chapystick_]

The common theme is the assumption that we only do it because we “want to be seen or heard.” Yeah there are some attention seeking dickheads, but the vast majority of people that do it are doing it because they enjoy the sound of their car, not because they care about attention. I personally literally couldn’t drive my car competently with the stock exhaust because I couldn’t hear it over any music to feel when to shift properly

[@Thinginator]

In that case, I wonder if the way to enjoy loud exhaust when nobody else wants your exhaust to be loud is to remove sound deadening material in the car? It's weight reduction, so it will improve performance anyway, and that way you can hear everything going on in the car. But yeah, I wish non car enthusiasts would bother to look up why we do things instead of just jumping to conclusions. I've heard similar things about why people do burnouts or modify cars in general. Like, are you so self-centered that you think everyone does everything to get your attention? We do it because it's FUN, Karen.

[@chapystick_]

@@Thinginator well you can’t change the tone or sound of your engine by just making the interior more noisy and rattly 💀

[@foodhatesme]

​@@Thinginator they don't care, the only thing they care about is how it affects them and how dare you have any fun.

[@trashbandit2449]

@@chapystick_ you could dump it beneath the cabin so it wouldn't have to be as loud for you to hear it, but then you'd have constant headaches and fumes

[@chapystick_]

@@trashbandit2449 and not a lot of room to put a resonator or something before the dump to keep the overall noise down

[@alexflosho]

Gotta love the good ol Florida

[@okexotics]

I have a rotory and I get love for my exhaust but… I guess there are more Karen’s and kens out there 😢!

[@justincruz6192]

Got pulled over in tx and the cops first words were "first of all before anything love the exhuast " lol

[@dre983]

Hopefully they don't come to Oklahoma with all that

[@okexotics]

I already got one ticket in Okc cause a cop assumed my ported rotory was modified for noise instead of efficiency!

[@MGA_83]

Yessss. Harley Davidson, I've always said they should make them illegal if we're to enforce noise laws! Hahaha. Also, in places where the biggest export is harvesting crops, exhaust laws should never be an issue. The next thing we'll see is Karen who moved out to the country who's calling the cops because the neighbor is raking hay. And don't get me started on road construction...

[@henryv.3272]

Long time ago guys were getting tickets for cars being to low, and hydraulics were born. We might loose exhaust rumble, but we might be able to keep the performance if the after market can still make the power without the volume. In my project I plan to run stock cans with up sized piping, I hope I can get 90% of the performance with stock-ish sound levels.

[@steadyboost7]

If you own something Japanese, I recommend Fujitsubo. They're really expensive systems but you can't beat them for performance without excess noise.

[@spp6849]

well what ive seen done: using multiple resonators and mufflers while still keeping a large diameter. its costly but it does work, not too loud and not boringly quiet

[@goldtigre4979]

Got pulled over in my OJ Bronco for “excessive noise” in the other commonwealth (MA). Officer asked if I was racing. I said “if you want to see my 0-60 you’ll have to wait a mile down the road”. He laughed and told me to ‘fix my exhaust’. (It wasn’t broken, it’s just an old V8 with no cat)

[@Mr_Hillbilly_weeb]

Makes me happy to live in Nova Scotia Canada all we need for an inspection exhaust wise anyway is a catalytic converter and a muffler unless the car is older than the 90s then it only need the muffler

[@jamesclegg8204]

They call these exhaust systems “mufflers” and I don’t got one so that doesn’t apply to me😂

[@deadlybladesmith3093]

While the weather is absolutely terrible and almost unbearable sometimes, this stuff makes me love Arkansas. We don't even have emission checks, especially not exhaust laws like this 😂. The only thing you can't have is just an unreasonably loud/straight piped car in most places. As long as you aren't flooring it in the city you pretty much just won't get pulled over for it.

[@Matthew-oj2mq]

Makes me love Florida even more as well

[@ShelbyWithAShelby]

Same with Oklahoma. There's been several times I've been driving my 33 hot rod around, which has a blown 632 and zoomies (so it's beyond obnoxiously loud) and passed cops, or been driving next to them, and they just don't care

[@samaramorgan8023]

Makes me miss South Carolina, they don't even require safety inspection. Insurance is high as shit though lol

[@jasonbrown7258]

Sam here in Michigan.

[@potato00007]

​@@ShelbyWithAShelby I'm moving to Oklahoma soon, how is the car scene there?

[@domywork.6363]

Dude, it's the v8 & v6 boyz the most in cali, not just the motorcycles.

[@oostrich]

I wish that there were more people in the us government that weren't old as hell

[@filipw3251]

our country is being run by dickheads who try to ban the “TikTok” app using the argument that it “uses your wifi and steals your electricity.”

[@vendetta1658]

Boomers ruined everything.

[@TrippinBusa]

Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Loud mufflers and fast things make me alive and are my liberties to own.

[@YeshuaHamashiach365]

That’s some of the most dumb laws. Especially the exhaust law. What attracted me into the car scene was exhaust, turbos, super chargers and blow off valves. It’s one of the best parts of vehicles.

[@knightwalkr]

Though I’ve done it I completely understand. My first Harley was loud enough you could easily hear it from a 1/4 to 1/2 mile. When I first started no hearing protection. By the time I had been riding a while I wore ear plugs… and would still have ringing.

[@ronnyvalle9204]

new meta: have really loud speakers play exhaust sounds

[@DaBardToDaBone]

Someone needs to pay Alex for editing Alex’s videos so amazingly

[@GratestMoviesNvrSeen]

what about super cars hat are above the limit from factory? Or that guy in california with the veloster N factory exhaust who got a ticket. How is one okay but not the other???? Lucky I live in Canada but our laws often mimic america, so if it happens there, wont be long for us here

[@AlexMartini.]

I haven't heard anything from that veloster car situation. I should go read up and see if there's more stuff to chat about!

[@hax0n23]

​@@AlexMartini.Yea they gave him a ticket for his exhaust, and the cop told him that he has to take his veloster N back to Hyundai and get the exhaust swapped for the non performance version so it doesn't sound as "loud"

[@okexotics]

Some cars should be exempt

[@original__gmebvy]

It wasn’t a Veloster, it was the Elantra N

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

It was an Elantra N

[@WhatIs205]

I just want to state that having a loud exhaust saved my life a couple of times. One is if you are in the country side and have deer, two is people can hear you over a hill.

[@DucatiPaso750]

I find that hard to believe with a car or truck. However, when I had a Ducati motorcycle, I got pulled over by a motorcycle cop for speeding and the cop was also going to write me a fix it ticket for the loud custom NCR exhaust. I asked him if he thought his police motorcycle's siren helped people who couldn't see him realize he was in their blind spots and not make sudden lane changes in front of him, preventing him from getting hurt or killed. He agreed that the loud siren put other drivers on alert. He decided not to write me the fix it ticket for the exhaust. Unfortunately, I still got the speeding ticket.

[@Laria7]

i love living in texas cause they rlly don’t care what u do but it’s crazy cause some cars come stock with loud exhausts so they just hate pol

[@abrokendowncar]

2:40 yeah if they could catch bikes

[@LawnMower-jv8hg]

I can't think of a time when a cop isn't on a power trip

[@JSAFIXIT]

It's a great thing that wisconsin does not do "ticket by mail"

[@bigbolbo]

Don’t confuse with northern VA (nova) with the rest of it. It’s a stark contrast between Nova and sourthern VA. Nova is no better than CA with emission checks, decibel readers etc but southern VA doesn’t give a crap. No emissions, decibel readers, but if you go above 80 it’s a reckless driving ticket🙃

[@MacOSeX10]

An Elantra N was ticketed in California even though it was stock 😂

[@cieldudzik4617]

Which is wild because that thing isn’t even that loud. Its pretty tame.

[@MrCrowley925]

God bless Tx we don’t have to deal with this bs for now and like I been saying you get what you voted for kids

[@Slider712]

Unfortunately with the way things are going in Texas, it won't be much longer now that you'll be dealing with shit like this. No one is safe from the cult.

[@Doctor_Martain]

I like that TX has a reputation for 1000hp grocery getters. We don't have emissions in Florida either so it's a real treat to see and hear some of these really amazing cars.

[@BadPandaRacing]

Also they $250 I got a fix it ticket but failed to fix it in time and got a $300 fine for bad tag ...and yup I'm I cali ....bs 😆

[@skynet1.044]

Massive congratulations to the takeover usual suspects who probably caused this law to happen.

[@coffee_addict22]

The ones I really hate are the sling shots with the 50 boat speakers cranked all the way up, big thing down here in Florida. That crap's annoying especially when there's a group of them all playing something different. I also ride a Harley but NEVER rev it outside my house or in a neighborhood because there is no need and it just pisses people off. I do feel loud pipes save lives and like being able to hear small bikes hiding in my blind spots on the highway. A little common courtesy/consideration would go a long way to solving this whole thing.

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

This 0% about noise and 100% about revenue generation. Make no mistake, the only intentions here are bad faith

[@joshuacleaver3332]

Imagine being able to modify your car at all. - sincerely every Australian car enthusiast

[@qwertiee]

I just booked my catback exhaust installation in for my 5 cylinder Volvo. Here in Australia, we don't have these laws yet hehe

[@abductedcows4100]

Loud exhausts are obviously unsafe. Unlike those quiet EV’s with sub 4 second 0-60 times that are being put into the hands of novices.

[@Refrn]

Every time I see someone blow through a light using the right hand turn lane to get ahead of everyone it’s some dickhead in a Tesla model y or model 3

[@thunderbug8640]

Just retroactively add it to the list of reasons I turned down the opportunity to move to the USA.

[@oglebogle4716]

Taking away our ability to modify our cars is like taking away our freedom of expression. If we can express ourselves with "loud" and garish clothing and express ourselves by making loud music then why can't we also do the same with modifying our cars? Things like exhaust laws aren't just annoying but are borderline unconstitutional

[@__dm__]

Playing loud music from your lawn is also a great way to get the cops called. Your rights end where mine begins. This is like smoking in public, you can do whatever you want, but tobacco fumes are noxious and my rights to not be exposed to it outweigh your rights to smoke. At the minimum you can take your loud exhaust to somewhere that isn't highly populated, but a lot of car people don't seem to understand basic human decency and do pulls where thousands within earshot are chilling in their homes.

[@michaelv3340]

The absolute loudest exhaust I ever heard was when I was hunting. I heard a logging truck start up, and despite the fact it had to be at least a mile away it was incredibly loud. Then the truck came driving down the logging road running by where I was. It was evidently under a heavy load and was running at full throttle. By the time it passed by, I could yell at the top of my lungs and the guy I was with couldn't even hear me, and this truck was still about a hundred yards from where we were. I never saw the truck, and I can't imagine what it would have been like actually sitting in the cab of that truck.

[@bobnotbob5133]

Love when non car people tell everybody what car modifications do something beneficial or not

[@robster7787]

The airplane argument is actually outdated and law enforcement don’t use them anymore. The “speed enforced by aircraft” sign functions more as a scare tactic instead of actually doing it. A buddy of mine for the VA highway patrol confirmed that it’s more effective to keep the signs up than to take it down. I am glad you didn’t bring up that straight piping the exhaust makes the car more efficient and performs better claim because that’s no longer a viable trade off argument. My job as an engineer for a particular car manufacturer is to design an exhaust system that’s both quieter and more efficient than a standard straight pipe modification. Like no kidding this redesign we’re doing increases horsepower as it reduces back pressure significantly more than a straight pipe configuration while also being quieter. Quite ironic given that I was transferred from the racing division.

[@E9XToberrr]

Next if they put the cameras up for loud noise they gonna put a radar and just send speeding tickets as well 😂

[@crespyACE]

I enjoyed how the civic was in the spot light in this video

[@itzzgraham]

Just subscribed man, I can’t believe how much I missed hearing your voice, you made doughnut what it’s is fr

[@MikeBrookhart209]

I live in Pennsylvania and was denied from getting my supercharged decatted lexus inspected. Not because is supercharged, not because the smell of exhaust without cats in place... they said they will not inspect cars that are on coilovers😂 what a time to be a car enthusiast

[@rcayabyab8994]

I wonder how lifted Trucks and Jeeps feel over there…

[@ber2coldx788]

What about motorcycles they need loud exhausts literally exactly what that lady said THEY NEED TO BE HEARD BEFORE THERE SEEN

[@ber2coldx788]

More motorcycles will get into accidents and people have to bring there brand new stock motorcycles back to the factory in other states your motorcycle can be as loud as you want because it’s actually proven to be safer to have a loud bike

[@ber2coldx788]

I live in NY they not doing that out here

[@Pebergriffin1]

They already have speed cameras where I live i Canada and its so annoying, If you go 10km/h over you get a ticket in the mail. I really hope they don't start doing the sound stuff too. I don't really ever floor it anyway unless im driving backroads but 1 downshift at the wrong time could do it.

[@Just_AnotherPlayer]

As a car guy and a gun guy who lives in California I can’t wait to leave

[@rjkStudios]

It's unfortunate that there always has to be "that person" who acts immaturely / irresponsibly and ruins it for everyone else who happens to be an upstanding & passionate car owner. This leads to both intolerant people and good natured people reaching their limits & getting upset - then wanting to paint every automotive enthusiast with the same brush, and impose draconian measures. I can see it from both sides: I was out for a neighbourhood walk yesterday afternoon, it was the nicest day we've had since Fall 2022 (Canadian winter finally ending), and I could hear a flat plane crank constantly revving to what sounded like 8-9k from a mile or 2 away. This went on for nearly 10 minutes, with the sound changing to various distances away but staying in the area. It sounded like there was a track near by (there isn't, it's all city streets and a couple of the most major roads - but only 4 lanes wide - in our city of 130,000), and I was taken aback, thinking, "ooooh, people aren't gonna like this.... I don't think I like it (given the proximity to the neighbourhood)" even though I had an appreciation for that kind of sweet high revving sound. It's just, given the environment, I can understand how some people really let it get it under their skin (just like how the sound of a dog barking can really get under some people's skin - but you don't see us outlawing all dogs). Punish the scumbag offenders, don't punish everyone with a short sighted overkill "blanket" law. I hope it's not misinterpreted as a "strawman", but just as there are bad dog owners (neglectful, leave the dog ignored, out of control barking like crazy disturbing the entire neighbourhood), there are bad car owners who go bouncing the needle off the redline at intersections, or flooring it on city & residential streets. For those of us who own "classic" classic cars or what are now becoming classic 30 year old Japanese cars (the 90's were 10 years ago, right?? 🤯) OEM exhausts don't last forever. For example, the only rusty part of a well kept Japanese turbo car was the factory exhaust system. It was replaced with an aftermarket stainless steel system since you can't get OEM exhausts anymore, and it had the surprise added benefit of increasing fuel economy by 3 MPG while still passing all local emissions testing requirements. Yes, it is louder at idle, but you never go around acting like the stereotype on the street. Responsible, passionate car ownership! Cruise down the highway, or take it to the track / local autocross. 😎👍 One of the important things is, our cars are getting old, they need new exhausts, and the OEM exhaust may either already above the arbitrary decibel level that someone ends up enforcing, and / or you can't get an OEM exhaust anymore. Improvements have been made in design & technology. A new aftermarket exhaust can be of better quality, improve performance, and improve fuel economy. You can't blanket outlaw quality performance aftermarket exhausts - it's short sighted and an over reaction. Cars need replacement & improvement parts, and we wanna keep our treasures on the road for years to come (new cars are just missing that "intangible" factor that old sports cars have). 😬 longest comment ever... but yeah, those new camera systems to identify loud cars, I can't see how that's trustworthy in high volume traffic. Are they accurate enough to distinguish between a low revving OEM spec sports car that's side by side on the road with a daily beater that hitting redline with a broken exhaust? Does the sports car get "profiled" and charged instead of the actual offender?

[@LouiseBranson-z1j]

I haven’t seen one Honda Civic here in this town that loud I’ve seen all different brand ones and they’re so loud they hurt your ears. If you’re outside, they shake your windows when you’re in the house and wake you up at night.