ENGINEERS REVEAL RARE FACTS ABOUT 4RUNNER, TACOMA, LAND CRUISER - CANDID INTERVIEW SHELDON BROWN

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Two engineers - David Chao & Tacoma Chief Engineer Sheldon Brown - discuss sensitive topics about the new Toyota 4Runner, Tacoma and Land Cruiser. Will the new turbocharged engines really last as long as naturally aspirated engines? What really happened with Tundra's wastegate issue? How much does the 2025 4Runner share components with the new Tacoma and Land Cruiser? Who is the Chief Engineer for the new 4Runner and Land Cruiser? There are so much insights revealed in this video that you won't be able to stop watching until the end...
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@rmoore07
@rmoore07 4 ай бұрын
5:37 “We’re always trying to keep the cost on these trucks down.” It’s a good thing they saved money on not having an engine cover. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have been able to keep the TRD Pro to the low price of $65K.
@tslicker1990
@tslicker1990 4 ай бұрын
saving you money on 10k oil changes, lol! Sheldon's job is to build trucks....
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q 4 ай бұрын
@@tslicker1990Technically they are 5k miles under certain conditions. 0w20 oil is abundant and low cost. Oil changes are easy DIY on these.
@femaledeer
@femaledeer 4 ай бұрын
Why didn't he ask why the price didnt decrease?
@arashefi
@arashefi 4 ай бұрын
He said they trying keep the cost for Toyota not for the customers 😄
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q 4 ай бұрын
@@arashefi Wrong. Groceries have tripled. Cars have only gone up 50%.
@Rdrunnersac
@Rdrunnersac 4 ай бұрын
10,000 mile oil changes are nuts. I don’t care what Sheldon says. Use a quality synthetic oil and change it every 5,000 miles on the dot. Maybe even every 4,000 miles if you do a lot of city driving.
@ConfirmedPatriot
@ConfirmedPatriot 4 ай бұрын
Right ! If you keep a car 5 years or less that’s ok. But like me 10+ years, 5000 miles of synthetic oil is the most. Turbos burn that oil much faster.
@dattape2828
@dattape2828 4 ай бұрын
7500
@vorant77
@vorant77 4 ай бұрын
I think Sheldon is full of it.
@paulharsh78
@paulharsh78 4 ай бұрын
How else are they gonna get you to come in a buy a new truck?
@jamesschlueter8285
@jamesschlueter8285 4 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correct. We have had turbo cars since 1986 and have hundreds of thousand miles without any engine work whatsoever. Mostly the turbos were only oil cooled with no water cooling. We changed the synthetic oil religiously at 4000 miles. Never had a turbo or internal engine problem.
@garthlundquist3623
@garthlundquist3623 4 ай бұрын
New gen Tacoma truck sales down 50% from same quarter last year. The market doesn’t like the turbo four only option!
@luissantiago147
@luissantiago147 3 ай бұрын
That and the huge price coupled with higher interest rate isn’t helping
@SteveCallsen
@SteveCallsen 4 ай бұрын
I was not even thinking about buying a new 24 trd off road premium 4 runner when the opportunity came about to do so, so thankful i did buy it!! Shouldn't have to buy another vehicle in my lifetime!!!
@DJR33333
@DJR33333 4 ай бұрын
Time will tell. I’ve got a ‘21 4Runner so thankfully, I’ve got plenty of time. Hopefully in 15-20 years I’ll be able to get another vehicle that proves to be just as reliable.
@BigAltimaEnergy719
@BigAltimaEnergy719 4 ай бұрын
Ur better keeping that 4Runner and keeping up the maintenance with that…
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q 4 ай бұрын
The engine in the 5th Gen 4R is all aluminum with liners, four cams, dual VVT, and 24 valves. Many said it would never last compared to the cast iron pushrod V8s. They were proved wrong. That being said the newer turbo engines will be less reliable initially, but get better over time, just like the 4.0. Eventually the turbo engines will be more reliable than the 4.0.
@helok9
@helok9 4 ай бұрын
I will NEVER buy a Tacoma with a 4 banger turbo, or a Tundra with a 6 banger turbo…NEVER! Toyota has made a mistake. Proof in point, the Frontier is out selling the Tacoma. Tacoma sales as well as Tundra sales have plummeted and they’ve suffered a large quarter loss.
@TrekTracks74
@TrekTracks74 3 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏
@armyfazer1410
@armyfazer1410 3 ай бұрын
A coworker that is a long time Tacoma driver just traded his hold Taco for a brand new Frontier. And it was 100% about the engine.
@ginoaluzijr9522
@ginoaluzijr9522 4 ай бұрын
And how many of you guys, keep a car for 200,000+ miles? I do, and I have all my life. All I read is guys complaining about the price. And these very same guy's, turn around and say, "I am going to keep my 2022, 2021, 2000 Tacoma." You very well should KEEP IT. It's a NEW Truck. You don't NEED a replacement for it. You should Thank God everyday, that you could afford a new truck. Also, they have been using Turbos for many years now. It's proven technology. I can remember people in the "old days," complaining about those "new fuel injection systems." They would said, I am never going buy one of those "new" fuel injected engines. I will stay with cars, that only use a carburetor. Try This.....They used to use a horse for transportation. No tech and all you need to do, is just feed it.
@Woodduck-k4o
@Woodduck-k4o 4 ай бұрын
Amen enough said!
@visionaryvisuals1029
@visionaryvisuals1029 4 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
Have you seen the price of oats lately? 🐎
@StubProductions
@StubProductions 4 ай бұрын
It’s because they are trying to convince themselves their purchase is not with regret. These same folks will quietly trade in their nearly new reliable “old” Toyota and buy the new reliable Toyota to keep up with the Jones. That’s why Toyota makes a lot of money! lol
@digitalperson108
@digitalperson108 4 ай бұрын
I have no fear of the new 4 bangers in the 4Runner or Taco, but I will still keep my '21 4Runnner. I am like you, I drive until it NEEDS replacing beyond what the normal maintenance supports in life span. I am sure the new powerplants will be just fine and reliable, though time will tell.
@jeffr6280
@jeffr6280 4 ай бұрын
It’s not simply the durability factor, it’s the cost of ownership factor that’s concerning. I can do a ton of work on my current vehicles, one of which is a Toyota truck with over 200k, and that saves me time and money. The complexity of this powertrain limits what vehicle owners will be able to do, and that adds expenses, especially for those who have to buy used due to the ridiculous costs of these new vehicles.
@TheDesertRat31
@TheDesertRat31 4 ай бұрын
Right on. My 2008 4runner has 312k and runs perfectly. I do all my own maintenance. Nothing major, but I'll put in a rebuilt transmission or swap a motor if I ever need to. Doing those still beats the cost of a new one by a wide margin.
@GlennTXstate10
@GlennTXstate10 4 ай бұрын
Adding more parts, especially a turbo and the additional parts needed for that, adds more moving pieces, as well as adds to the complexity. More shit that can break and a very expensive fix
@christianalvarezcrivellaro9185
@christianalvarezcrivellaro9185 4 ай бұрын
Nice Interview. I've seen a lot of Sheldon Brown chats, but this one w/ DC brings more light to the table. I appreciate that and it's good to see the passion of both individuals.
@patriotsheepdog
@patriotsheepdog 3 ай бұрын
So, let me get this straight. You increase price by 30%, design a motor with more issues that’s stressed more that will last half as long, just to get 2-4 mpg better. At $3.50 a gallon it would take you about 400,000 miles to make that initial cost back. Ridiculous. It’s like idiocracy these days. No one can think for themselves.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
David, It is always helpful to hear the perspective of those on the inside. 😁 With the bare frame and drivetrain components exposed, I would have been tempted to ask why Toyota's locking front differential is not available on any 4X4 in our market. 🤔
@ZachMauch
@ZachMauch 4 ай бұрын
I can't get enough of Sheldon's content. I've watched him on several channels. He is just incredible. As a fellow engineer (systems/electrical) I would love to just sit down and chat with him for hours.
@Mineisbigger
@Mineisbigger 3 ай бұрын
He's full of lies and has been proven in the tundra and tacomas.
@ZachMauch
@ZachMauch 3 ай бұрын
@@Mineisbigger gonna need more information than that.
@Seaward1224
@Seaward1224 3 ай бұрын
Talk is cheap. Like the tundra, let’s see how real world driving correlates with all this superior engineering!
@allmivoyses
@allmivoyses 4 ай бұрын
We've had four 4Runners. The first three each gave us over 350k miles worth of running life before we traded. This last one, a 2000 LTD, blew the #3 spark plug right out of the head, but that was at 328k miles. Say what you will, Toyota makes a quality product. Does that mean I want a Turbo? Hell no. I'll stick with my NA engine thank you. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. NA works just fine.
@MorleMinto
@MorleMinto Ай бұрын
Did you treat 4Runners with undercoating or rust protection sprays?
@allmivoyses
@allmivoyses Ай бұрын
@@MorleMinto one came with it from the factory, one we had applied to. The others no.
@dongustafson2304
@dongustafson2304 3 ай бұрын
The four cylinder turbo 4 is a deal breaker.
@MrCovert23
@MrCovert23 4 ай бұрын
David I would love for you to take us on a tour to the Guanajuato and Baja California Production Plants for the Tacoma. I need to see why I would overspend on the new Tacoma.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
I hope the tour includes a look at the workers' pay checks. We need to settle the debate of whether wages have gone above $3 per hour.
@vernonbennettiii3646
@vernonbennettiii3646 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Excellent interview with the Toyota Engineer!
@elizabethwhite4606
@elizabethwhite4606 4 ай бұрын
David, Extremely awesome interview with Sheldon Brown. I learned so much from your discussion.
@dattape2828
@dattape2828 4 ай бұрын
That guy is full of hot air and it ain’t from the turbo.
@John-SmithFJB
@John-SmithFJB 4 ай бұрын
The Bots are strong. Hard pass on the TURDbo...
@johndiaz7240
@johndiaz7240 4 ай бұрын
Excellent interview very good questions, funny you always had one more question like “Columbo” 😅
@armyfazer1410
@armyfazer1410 3 ай бұрын
You are dating yourself with that comment. LOL
@anthonyszeto5508
@anthonyszeto5508 4 ай бұрын
"Keep cost down"?? Have you seen the starting price for the Tacoma?!? It's INSANE!
@Mist3man4423
@Mist3man4423 4 ай бұрын
Great interview. Sheldon is very knowledgeable. Thanks David. Hope we can get some more information on the Landcruiser FJ soon.
@mannypuerta5086
@mannypuerta5086 3 ай бұрын
Toyota needs to produce a 4x4, one ton, 8’ bed, diesel pickup…with a stick.
@TM15R
@TM15R 4 ай бұрын
NO TURBO = NO TURBO PROBLEMS. Maybe toyota, (note lower case) should hire some NISSAN ENGINEERS. How many V6 N/A Fronteers can you buy...all you want.
@tylersmith293
@tylersmith293 4 ай бұрын
I decided to keep my 430k 2001 Tacoma and spend money on maintenance over a new one. Because I trust it.
@leemckee1272
@leemckee1272 4 ай бұрын
Please please please give North America the option of a 4.0 v6 base model lower cost Tacoma and 4Runner. Overseas even the 300 Series Land Cruiser is offered with a NA 4.0 v6.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
That’s simple because those countries don’t have the emissions regulations that you can thank your government here for. It’s not a Toyota decision my friend and other manufacturers will follow soon to conform to 2027 emission standards. Have a great day
@bax737
@bax737 4 ай бұрын
Just grab a 2024 4Runner. They are available at your local dealer now. Comes standard with your 4.0 v6 engine. Lots of people are opting for it because it’s the last year you can get that configuration. Super reliable, also.
@jdogtag567
@jdogtag567 4 ай бұрын
​@@bax737I agree. Got mine 2 days ago
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
To rub salt in our wounds, let us remind ourselves that 300 Series with the 1GR-FE can also be equipped with 3 locking differentials at a price of approximately $60,000.😉 The 250 Land Cruiser will also be equipped with the tried and true 2TR-FE 2.7 engine in some markets. 😁
@CA1567-v8p
@CA1567-v8p 4 ай бұрын
America government regulation. They drive whatever they want YOU cant
@zemo2332
@zemo2332 4 ай бұрын
2.4 turbo 4 cylinder has been used in Lexus NX for the past 5 years, but I haven’t seen one with 300K miles with the original turbo.
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 4 ай бұрын
You probably never will
@dylansran6129
@dylansran6129 Ай бұрын
Loved the interview. Excellent thoughts on the engineering aspects. Waxes, coatings and strength discussion is awesome.
@michaelh365
@michaelh365 2 ай бұрын
I am very happy with my TRD Sport 4x4. Its a great truck and I intend on keeping it for many years. I'm coming out of a 2005 Tundra with 398,000 miles on it.
@Zimbo999
@Zimbo999 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Very enlightening. Currently waiting for manual, good info to make the wait worth it
@bubba4072
@bubba4072 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, David! I appreciate these informative videos. Hopefully, they'll be as reliable as the previous gens. 🤞
@jtomtl
@jtomtl 4 ай бұрын
Keep the cost down 😂 no engine cover! The old V6 always have a engine cover
@John-SmithFJB
@John-SmithFJB 4 ай бұрын
Would be nice to cover up the that alien nest. ugh. Hard Pass. V6 please!
@jetman1979
@jetman1979 4 ай бұрын
Good viedo 👍. I just bought the 2024 Toyota 4Runner SR5 premium. Beautiful truck, I am very happy with my truck. I also have a 2009 Tacoma 4x4 5speed extended cab also a great truck thanks Toyota.
@cmk2675
@cmk2675 4 ай бұрын
I don't have a problem with all the new tech. I do however have a problem with not having the choice to get a naturally aspirated V6 or V8. Their is obviously still a market for both so it only makes sense to cater to as many people as possible. Just another example of the goverment and manufacturers forcing things down our throat. Definitely will be keeping my 2021 4 runner for the next 15-20 years. Only time will tell... I'm not convinced
@brucemoose2
@brucemoose2 4 ай бұрын
You say you don’t have a problem with new technology, but you clearly do. Don’t lie to yourself! You do you bro.
@cmk2675
@cmk2675 4 ай бұрын
@@brucemoose2 What does wanting to have a choice have to do with new technology? So you like things forced on you? What am I missing here?
@janetairlines1351
@janetairlines1351 4 ай бұрын
​@@cmk2675he probably still wears a mask
@cmk2675
@cmk2675 4 ай бұрын
​@@janetairlines1351😂
@roch145
@roch145 4 ай бұрын
The reason you don’t have the choice to buy a v6 or v8 is due to government regulations, emissions and mileage, that are designed to force the adoption of EV’s. So if you want the marketplace to decide what vehicles should be offered for sale, rather than the government, you need to vote Republican. Democrats want to end cars as we know them. As part of a massive plan to increase population densities, increase mass transit and reduce single home ownership. Government policies are distorting the marketplace.
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik 4 ай бұрын
I'm hoping the 250-series is a massive succes because maybe then Toyota can consider bringing the successor of the 300-series LC back to the US.
@jermainedouglas7301
@jermainedouglas7301 4 ай бұрын
It was not as good a seller as its brother in a tuxedo the LX, i honestly think the LX just need an overtrail trim and thats it
@rickper
@rickper 4 ай бұрын
No one bought them unfortunately, we all could have
@BigAltimaEnergy719
@BigAltimaEnergy719 4 ай бұрын
With the Sequoia existing, there’s no way the LC300 will come to our shores anytime soon…
@normanli7085
@normanli7085 4 ай бұрын
​@BigAltimaEnergy719, unless the sequoia goes back to the independent suspension route like the previous gen, and if they sell enough to justify the cost of producing another suspension for family duties, along with putting enough modern touches and making the 300 (or 400 series) more off road oriented, then the land cruiser will now remain beneath the sequoia
@wetlettuce8215
@wetlettuce8215 4 ай бұрын
​@@BigAltimaEnergy719 sequoia is too big though power figures they are about the same only that lc300 is more compact and same time has more offroad features specially the lc300 gsr
@brandonedwards4398
@brandonedwards4398 4 ай бұрын
This is a great interview! Great job David!
@jonsilver5833
@jonsilver5833 4 ай бұрын
Great information! Thank you I like seeing this before I make a big investment in a vehicle .
@JPMediaRR
@JPMediaRR 3 ай бұрын
I love my Solar Octane 2024 Toyota Tacoma; I love the way it looks, feels and drives. Unfortunately, I have been without my truck for 30 days now due to factory paint issues and system malfunction issues which require parts that are not currently available. The truck has 622 miles on it, with 300 of those from driving back and forth to the dealer. It currently sits at the dealer waiting for those parts. I have no idea when I will get it back. Not a very happy camper, especially since I paid almost $60K with all options. I hope Toyota can help expedite repairs as I would like to drive what I paid for.
@atomicorang
@atomicorang 3 ай бұрын
My question was touched upon by chief engineer regarding Toyota Japan trusting the North American market engineering . I feel great about our current Toyotas ..2023 Prius and 2024 Tacoma SR5 2WD .❤
@steveambrose2349
@steveambrose2349 4 ай бұрын
But look at the all the problems now being seen on the new Toyota trucks. What do you say about these problems? Wastegates,main bearings, etc
@TrekTracks74
@TrekTracks74 3 ай бұрын
Toyota says just buy one for $70k and experience it yourself! What a clown show for a Mexican car!
@markoreaper5388
@markoreaper5388 3 ай бұрын
This was excellent. Thank you.
@BoomaOhDet
@BoomaOhDet 4 ай бұрын
I would really like to know what Toyota is doing about the ADD (automatic disconnecting differential system ) issue. There’s a part in the transmission that is designed to fail to prevent damage however, it is failing under less than rugged conditions. TFLoffroad did several videos about this on the 2024 Tacoma but assuming it affects multiple platforms.
@frankkeel8410
@frankkeel8410 4 ай бұрын
What ever happened to that low introductory price ?
@jeffamburgey7485
@jeffamburgey7485 4 ай бұрын
Going straight to the source, excellent interview, excellent information. I have never doubted Toyota or Lexus, I bought 2 in the last year and am 100 percent satisfied. Well done, David, thank you. I will still let my turbo LX idle for a minute and cool, and I did break in oil change at 500 miles, and I will continue to change at 4k mile intervals for the rest of my life. Now, if we can stop blaming Toyota for inflation, we can enjoy the best vehicles produced on the planet that are used all over the planet. As the man said, "So far, it's undefeated."
@JohnSmith-lw2bm
@JohnSmith-lw2bm 3 ай бұрын
Not betting my $60k on one. 😂
@ryszardbyczyk6938
@ryszardbyczyk6938 4 ай бұрын
I was a Ford truck owner for most of my adult life. I worked on them for a few years in the forestry industry, where durability was paramount. The f150 line stood up to the daily use very well for many years. I became discontent with all the manufacturers because of design flaws that were built into vehicles decade after decade. The more I spoke to and read what Toyota owners had to say about their trucks, the more I was convinced to buy a Toyota. I bought a low mileage 2013 4 Runner a few years ago and have never been happier with a vehicle. It does what it is supposed to do every day with nothing but normal preventive maintenance. The previous owner did NOT do any rust proofing , I rust proof it yearly and believe it is the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. It may be the last SUV I will own because it will out live me. If I ever need a vehicle, I will always look at Toyota first, and likely no further.
@donjon1733
@donjon1733 4 ай бұрын
Tacoma sales down 60% with numerous recalls. nuff said!!!!!!!!
@MountainGuerrilla
@MountainGuerrilla 3 ай бұрын
Now with the Tundra recalls I'm wondering about this engine too, I know the platform is used in other vehicles, but the seeds of doubt have been sewn.
@Jojo-ni2cg
@Jojo-ni2cg 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video David
@9of966
@9of966 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 V6 Taco. Maybe in 10 years or so after all the guinea pigs have experimented buying a turbo 4 banger I might rethink my prejudice. But for now, don't be surprised if I am still happy with what I have now. Good luck with that new tech.
@daner3681
@daner3681 4 ай бұрын
Amazing interview!
@vorant77
@vorant77 4 ай бұрын
Biggest mistake Toyota has made was hiring an American to design the new Tacoma. Epic fail.
@royportalise5269
@royportalise5269 4 ай бұрын
David will it prolong the life of the turbo if you leave idle for 2 minutes before shutting the engine down?
@brohammer
@brohammer 4 ай бұрын
He has said recently in another video you only need to do that if you are driving it hard and then immediately parking it
@ccarp1515
@ccarp1515 4 ай бұрын
Watching this and getting a better idea about all the science and engineering and overall complexity for something like this, should make everyone understand why they don’t offer all of the 500 different options/varieties people seem to want on here. Great video David, thanks as always.
@Uno91180
@Uno91180 4 ай бұрын
Nathan from TFL is now an engineer for Toyota. Nice
@malloced
@malloced 3 ай бұрын
Please do a video specifically about main bearing failures in the V35A-FTS engines. Would like to know how Toyota plans to address this.
@Offshore1977
@Offshore1977 4 ай бұрын
Did they keep the D4S technology from the previous V6? If not what did they do to reduce carbon buildup associated with direct injection engines?
@Ryan57Garr
@Ryan57Garr 4 ай бұрын
Yep they still have it! It’s talked about in another video, but I forget which channel, maybe TFL.
@mikebachar3276
@mikebachar3276 4 ай бұрын
This question is to automotive press. Can you get a Toyota designer to explain the tundra engine failures. For Toyota to get customer confidence they need to explain why the failures are happening and provide a a fool proof fix. I’ve heard of many new tundra’s requiring multiple engine rebuilds. That is not confidence inspiring. To build brand loyalty is difficult and long term reliability is needed. But to lose brand loyalty is easy with Toyotas ongoing recalls and failures.
@randomuser6306
@randomuser6306 4 ай бұрын
If he talked about that he'd get cut off from official Toyota guys like Sheldon, and official Toyota events.
@DK-wr9nd
@DK-wr9nd 4 ай бұрын
Toyota is one of the most conservative automaker in the world. Their hybrid system is proven to be reliable with minimal to no addition to maintenance cost. Turbocharged gasoline engines are pretty common, and most of the scary urban myth about their durability is resolved at least a decade ago. Yes, it would be comparatively less reliable than their V6 NA, simply due to having more parts, but considering the gas price these days, it is a fair trade. If you have to cry about new techs kicking in, just keep your ol' reliable, or go with the vehicle that offers traditional NA V6/V8. Well, I am disappointed by interior and cargo spaces, and higher-than-inflation-rate price hike though.
@Likiudie
@Likiudie 4 ай бұрын
David, I noticed in the owners manual of the Tacoma, they recommend 87 octane, while the Land Cruiser the owners manual recommends 91 octane. I do believe the powertrains are exactly the same with the exact same power output on the Tacoma Hybrid and the Land Cruiser. Any idea why that is?
@richardstromquist1
@richardstromquist1 3 ай бұрын
The Tundra engines are also tested to the same standard... And look at the values falling. Main bearings spinning all over the place
@puravida5683
@puravida5683 4 ай бұрын
I still enjoy driving my 2006 4Runner V8 Sport Edition! I would have bought a 2025 4Runner, if it did not have a turbo 4 banger. Unfortunately, Toyota is having some issues with their vehicles, which brings in the question of historic reliability.
@troy3456789
@troy3456789 3 ай бұрын
Toyota is observing that nearly 60% drop in sales of the tacoma compared to Q1 2023. That gen 3 tacoma reins supreme, so instead of perhaps updating the interior and the infotainment screen, and keeping what was working well, they decided to pay youtubers to shill for the super expensive POS they have created. None of this was required for the gen 3. The toyota ship is sinking and the band is playing happily.
@georgeanddaddecker7563
@georgeanddaddecker7563 Ай бұрын
I feel like Sheldon knows the turbo engines will not last as long by his demeanor and response. For him to say he is somewhat of a truck guy, makes me feel like it is more cost and EPA mandates than the traditional long-term reliability.
@rostamr4096
@rostamr4096 4 ай бұрын
Super knowledgeable guy
@BC_Hunter
@BC_Hunter 4 ай бұрын
Toyota lost a loyal customer with their price increase.
@alberthechme4001
@alberthechme4001 4 ай бұрын
Not convinced! There’s talks that Nissan is bringing the Xterra back with a V6 engine in competition with the 4 Runner and the Land Cruiser.
@alexmseu
@alexmseu 4 ай бұрын
If you want to see the future of Toyota's cost reduction strategy (TNGA) and their prioritization of fuel economy, turbos, and hybridization over true QDR, take a look at what's happening with the 3rd gen Tundra. KZbin 3rd gen Tundra problems, and you'll get a taste of what's in store for the new 4Runner and Tacoma. Cheaply made and assembled interiors, blown engines, faulty mechanical parts, etc. Unfortunately, the automotive industry and consumers now have the cell phone industry mentality of trading in every other year. These products are no longer made to last.
@yaowang74
@yaowang74 4 ай бұрын
Good interview David! All, please buy those cars now and I will buy one of 4Runners in 10 or 15 years probably, when reviewers start to call current TNGA platform “outdated” and “ancient”.
@datnguyen1615
@datnguyen1615 4 ай бұрын
Tacoma and 4Runner are bread and butter of Toyota. 1. Toyota 4bangers is the best. 2.Toyota is the most experience on the hybrid for most 3 decades 3.Toyota has turbo engine for long time ago such as supra(straight six) and MR2 for decades back 90's and 2000's. 4. 1 but is that Tacoma is made in the U.S? 5. Vacuum is the only way for controlling waste gate turbo because it is response according to engine speed and vacuum in the intake manifold I Trust Toyota period.
@StuvenBarkus
@StuvenBarkus 4 ай бұрын
If I could spend the money at the time, a 6ft bed Tacoma Trailhunter would be quite difficult to resist. I would like to build a home in a remote area, and the power on board, air compressor, 4x4 capability, towing capacity, and 6ft bed would make pretty much the perfect mobile work bench.
@judithvilla6026
@judithvilla6026 4 ай бұрын
Interesting thanks for the details. Would like to hear what has been done to address the 4runner tailgate rust issues.
@ZenEndurance
@ZenEndurance 4 ай бұрын
One thing to say that they’ve been tested. But what were the RESULTS? How much sooner did they fail?
@itsallminor6133
@itsallminor6133 4 ай бұрын
The 3.5 doesnt have the oil flow when you tilt it. No . I'm serious. If you're ever on a steep hill long shut it off. The oils not getting all the way through. That was a subject online and on KZbin videos long ago.
@sfdocster
@sfdocster 4 ай бұрын
I have owned turbocharged vehicles in the past. I liked having no loss of power at altitude. With a hybrid, I am hoping to get better range; in the mountains finding an open gas station can be dodgy at times.
@williamkelly1519
@williamkelly1519 4 ай бұрын
We have 3 Toyota's and I would never buy anything else! Great channel ALL the time.
@kurtburkhardt5862
@kurtburkhardt5862 4 ай бұрын
Turbo's and Hybrids have been part of Toyota's product line for decades. We have owned 3 hybrid vehicles starting with a 2009. Our first went 14 years and 178K miles and the hybrid system was still working fine. Our second has over 110K and 12 years still going strong. Have a Rav4 hybrid only a year so far, has traveled all over the country and is awesome. 8000K miles so far...looking forward to selling our 5th gen 2014 4Runner for a 2025 it is good, and has 155K miles. Just kinda tired of 15MPG the hunting and lurching 5-speed and lack of modern tech. If I get 12-14 good years out of another car I'm ok with that.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
A Toyota Hybrid will be at the top of my list when the day finally comes to replace my 19 year old car with the base 1.8 1ZZ-FE engine and 5 speed manual. We also have a 2010 Tacoma with a 4.0 V6 and 5 speed automatic in the family. In the miles I have driven it, I don't recall any hunting or lurching.
@kurtburkhardt5862
@kurtburkhardt5862 4 ай бұрын
Most of the time our 4Runner is great. Towing or in the mountains is where the old drivetrain shows it's age. Reliable and tough is good, if they would have updated the transmission I may have considered another 5th gen. I am looking forward to the 6th gen, but overall the 5th gen has served us well.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
@@kurtburkhardt5862 For many years they have paired the 4.0 V6 with a 6 speed automatic in overseas models like the Prado as well as the Land Cruiser 200/300. I don't know why that never happened here.
@CA1567-v8p
@CA1567-v8p 4 ай бұрын
How much does it cost to replace a hybrid battery at a Toyota dealership?
@davidkepke1435
@davidkepke1435 4 ай бұрын
Where was this recorded? It looks like Riverside or San Diego counties.
@YWUBHYD
@YWUBHYD 4 ай бұрын
Sheldon LOVES his job and I’m thrilled about that
@John-SmithFJB
@John-SmithFJB 4 ай бұрын
Bots bots bots...
@garybaldwin1061
@garybaldwin1061 4 ай бұрын
Nobody really believes a small turbo engine in a truck will be as reliable as the old 3,5 N/A and especially the 4.0 4runner. We just have to wait and see.
@ConfirmedPatriot
@ConfirmedPatriot 4 ай бұрын
So miffed at the $15,000 price increase of the PRO model compared to my 2020. Easily $5,000-7,000 over priced….Especially compared to a Ranger Raptor $57,000 with front locker and FULL time AWD and a twin turbo V6.
@sanangelo7926
@sanangelo7926 4 ай бұрын
Most likely making room for the scout to replace the old Tacoma price range
@sanangelo7926
@sanangelo7926 4 ай бұрын
So will the turbo 4 also have a spun bearing issue?
@nathandmello2646
@nathandmello2646 4 ай бұрын
These vehicles are expensive! I would like to see an engine touted as a million mile engine. I think most of us realize at 300-500k miles so may other components will need replacement. Value is a very real and important factor.
@engineerofalltrades
@engineerofalltrades 4 ай бұрын
You have to look at it as a system, what is the weakest point? I'm thinking batteries and electric motor/generator, the 4 cylinder turbo could last but the other stuff won't.
@RiddledEnigma93
@RiddledEnigma93 4 ай бұрын
I just got a 2021 TRD 4x4 Taco recently an I hope it lasts, it was off the lease of the service manager of the dealership so u would think it was taken care of!~
@HelplmAlive
@HelplmAlive 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully they sort out the Taco and 4Runner driver side lean.
@YWUBHYD
@YWUBHYD 4 ай бұрын
I’m stoked for the direction Toyota is headed
@kamikazikaizer
@kamikazikaizer 4 ай бұрын
How about offering us an sr model with trd pro offroad goodies. Eliminate the infotainment and other accessories to keep cost down.
@andyg5004
@andyg5004 4 ай бұрын
Long term durability for turbo charged engines means 3k oil changes. Whoever sticks to 5-10k oil changes will pay the price. There are some dealers doing 10k oil changes on Toyota which as we all know is wearing out engines out sooner
@bwatkins1223
@bwatkins1223 4 ай бұрын
I will never buy a turbo 4 overpriced Tacoma. We are not new to turbos. Mating turbos to plastic intakes are just the start of the problems that the Tacomas will face as the Tundras are already seeing.
@daviddupree1155
@daviddupree1155 4 ай бұрын
Great interview
@mikelewis6965
@mikelewis6965 4 ай бұрын
With hybrid both trd pro/trail hunter and LC how deep water crossing can they go???
@markrichardson6455
@markrichardson6455 4 ай бұрын
Why are 3.5 V6 engines blowing up?
@Woodduck-k4o
@Woodduck-k4o 4 ай бұрын
I feel 100% confident in this all new Tacoma TURBO engine ESPECIALLY after hearing thes 2 top notch engineer Sheldon and David!!!!!!!!!
@tmwei396
@tmwei396 4 ай бұрын
Sheldon must be working overtime going from KZbin automotive journalist to KZbin automotive journalist talking about the technical merits of the Tacoma and as a mechanical engineer like David I appreciate all the technical details and explanations he shared but the technical attributes are not my issue with the Tacoma and other new Tacoma models. My major issue is the price and not just MSRP. I feel the MSRP is too high to start with for what you get and that's before the dealers add additional packages, options, made-up fees. Many of those are "mandatory options" with is an oxymoron. How can it be an option when it is mandatory? I still haven't decided yet between a crew cab mid size truck like the Tacoma or an SUV like the 4Runner but I will by next year when the new 4Runner start to show up on the showroom floors. Although I would like to get a Toyota, at the end of the day the out the door price dictates what manufacturer and model I end up with.
@whapaso
@whapaso 4 ай бұрын
New Tacoma's are not selling...
@michaelb5622
@michaelb5622 4 ай бұрын
I like the blue GR Corolla they have just subtly hiding in the background…
@StubProductions
@StubProductions 4 ай бұрын
Follow manual on maintenance. Most people will use the severe duty or more aggressive maintenance plan due to stop and go driving, etc.
@colinjames2383
@colinjames2383 4 ай бұрын
Just little bit of an issue. $60k later 😂 Can you say 🍋 with me… # TEAM UT
@georgetown8986
@georgetown8986 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't appear very aerodynamic at all. I get the panoramic sunroof feature. But I would think body panels, seats, and a roof would be handy on long road trips at $70k.
@michaelcelis538
@michaelcelis538 2 ай бұрын
I’d be willing to bet, if Toyota included a 6 cylinder, naturally aspirated, for those who still wanted them, the Tacoma, and the soon to come 4 Runner, would be selling like hotcakes!!! One other thing, why 50-60 grand???
@bad_vaporizer
@bad_vaporizer 4 ай бұрын
Yall aint trying to keep the cost down. Toyota got greedy. Some ignorant people in here won't mind paying trd sport price for a sr5 these day but most of us have our eyes open.
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