Autotune Comparison TC Helicon C1 vs. TC Helicon Voicelive Play

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I do several tests between the voicelive Play and the classic C1 Pedal.
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[@melleaudeisorce]

Hello, I bought the TC Helicon C1 but when I'm singing on stage, the autotune doesn't work correctly maybe because it picks up the sound of other instruments as well... so the key is no longer the correct one and it's sounds wrong. Has anyone had the same problem?

[@ChristopherBrownVIII]

@@melleaudeisorce test it with a guitar tuner. Make sure you are 100% on key signature of each song. Remember the 12 note key signature scale is a parallel of each major an minor scale. So A major is also C minor. Bring it to guitar center and have them test it if possible or RETURN the item as NON FUNCTIONAL. Some electronics just don't have the Quality control or were dropped during shipping causing microchips malfunction.

[@a.cee30.30]

@@melleaudeisorce I’m pretty sure you need a mic that doesn’t pic up other sounds except yours

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

I should add the effect is finished with a dynamic microphone versus a condenser microphone. Thinking more about this. If your dynamic microphone is picking up a really loud bass.it could throw it off.. However the bass guitar should be playing similar notes at the same time... So that doesn't make a lot of sense.

[@richardchristensen1768]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but is the hard tune in the voice live play require you to have the accompanying simulations on when being used? I ask because in this vid it appears that the C1 is hard tuning your single voice and sounds cool that way but the voice live play is also hard tuning but only when you had harmony accompanying effects on which is bit of an over top processed hot mess that would be more suited for a cartoon voice overdub! Thanks for the video

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

No it does not. It can be a stand alone effect. You can create and finetune any of the settings.

[@richardchristensen1768]

@@newcastlemusicstudios Hey I really appreciate the info I've got a Voicelive play electric but it's in my storage right now and I've been watching a YT blues busker guy using the the C1 and it's awesome so I'm inspired to try it out as I really don't have the bucks right now to buy that other pedal Yours is the only vid on KZbin doing a valid demo on this feature of the VL play units like this Praises to you! Thanks again!

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

@@richardchristensen1768 thanks, yes it gets the job done! Best of luck with Busking!

[@roaringcartoons]

Excellent comparison, I like the Voicelive better.

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Cool, thanks!

[@johnkennedy5876]

that's because he did NOT use the C1 correctly

[@spiritbipolar]

@@johnkennedy5876 why?

[@DeliManagerRL]

QUESTION! does the voice live play have options to choose specific notes within the key you’re singing in? Sometimes a simple C major or c minor is missing a few notes with my songs. Thats why daw autotune plugins have the piano 🎹 display selection. thanks!

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Setting the Key on the TC helicon just kind of sux. It seems like it is global=meaning (In larger main menu) I think whatever note you are closest to it pulls it n that direction however on the menu function you can set the Key Sig. In the Harmony section. But then when the Harmony efect is clicked off.. I am unsure if it is still on that prticulr Key because in the actual pitch correction menu, there is no key, just type, country gliss, natural etc. But nothing down to the actual Note.

[@DeliManagerRL]

@@newcastlemusicstudios REally??? So no setting the key, just sing whatever n its autotuning that? Just clarifying cuz that souns sus

[@crashgeekdicoot]

does it do major and minor on thr voicelive? that was my main drawback from the c1

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

There is no particular indication of major or minor or key in the specific Effect Box for hardtune. Which sucks- there is Global Key Under settings where the algorithm allegedly figures... Under Harmony you can choose a key. Now running over the manual to jog my memory i think A or any Note indicates Major. So A =AMajor/F#Minor Or C= CMajor/AMinor The major and Relative Minor. Not sure if I said that n the video or not??? I rarely set the Key and check/fix it in the Autotune on my DAW where i can see all the notes when editing. It is a drawback as it does not indicate it on the pedal at all.

[@MySolarSystem]

Sam Fender - best!

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Yap!

[@jamesbrown-bp6mf]

The c1 only have major keys ? Which one would you prefer for recording?

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

The major keys all have relative minor keys. So Dminor would be Fmajor. So the scale for both is there. I think the Voicelive play is superior in functionality and versatility.

[@mitchdmi]

Is the pitch correction on the mic mechanic pretty similar to this? I make electronic/chip tune style and I ordered the mic mechanic with the intent of cranking the pitch correction to the max in order to get the robotic sound

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Probably similar. Well the voicelive has several types of pitch correction so i would guess itd be similar to one of them when cranked, either Pop or Natural. But I dont own it so i cannot say 100%

[@mitchdmi]

Thanks for the quick reply!

[@TERRAGRATA]

I see you can select the key on the C1. Is there no way to select the key on the Voiceplay?

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

There is but it think it is under harmony section. Id have to look. But there is not a general selection right on the type of Autotune type.

[@TERRAGRATA]

@@newcastlemusicstudios thanks

[@robbiej0116]

@@newcastlemusicstudios What's up man, wondering if you ever figured this out..I have a TC Helicon Play Acoustic-not sure if this applies to that unit as well, but the chromatic pitch correction seems to be off key in some aspects (I'm a decent singer but chromatic doesn't seem to fully correct my pitch. Wondering if setting a key would help) Thanks in advance

[@Dotarux]

Can you use this for kareoke with a mixer?

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Yes you can.

[@andym7333]

how do u set the window setting dont get it?

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

You use the buttons on the side to choose the type of adjustment like menu etc. Then the other buttons near the bottom of the sxreen to change effexts like delay and reverb etc.

[@yeahuri4724]

So in short the Voicelive play only have "hardtune" while C1 is more flexible? Thanks. Helps a lot

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

I would say the opposite minus the key choice. The voicelive has several "hardtune" wave stlyes like country gliss, natural, robot, etc. While the C1 obly features the basic hardtune style that can of course be modulated from light effect to heavy. Although u can also modulate everything on the Voicelive.

[@skylarmarcus2]

instablaster

[@danny-casey]

i would say so, i had the voicelive play but since you can’t set the key on the tune (just the harmony) it can’t give you the same effect that you get from setting your scale

[@FanaticDrummer]

Definitely not for Ghost tunes XD

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

lol, probably not, although i think he uses some effect on his voice very subtley

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

which one do you prefer? I think for the money you are best off buying the voicelive play because you get so many other effects and presets and a looping capability!

[@andycarrillo48]

thanks for the vid !!! Both sound good.....crazy. Can you do a tc helicon voicelive touch 2 as well ??? I saw in a manual it had the Kanye west effect which is dopeeeee. These are cool too. Maybe try singing in some dark travis Scott tunes I can send a melody to you and you can sing in it to test em out ? This was really clear though thank you so much for the upload bro !

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

The Voicelive 2, yes possibly , can't make any promises at the moment. The Voicelive 2 looks pretty advanced compared to the original. Also double the price tag.. I might be able to get a deal on a used one, we'll see thanks for the suggestions.

[@keithjohnston5936]

Sounds like a Cher pedal!

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

There is a PRESET on there called Cher... Lol, I think she was the 1st to use autotune-pitch correction.

[@Artzzero]

Ya know I used to play guitar like a champ... That was then this is now.

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Back in Vietnam? After the War?? I sold my last guitar for a handful of magical beans.

[@trusso11783]

This sounds ridiculous. Sounds like a video game. So unnatural sounding. That Crazy Train vocal sounds like it was sung by Robotic Dixie Chicks. I’ll pass.

[@newcastlemusicstudios]

Just trying to demonstrate the full FX. Most people who use these are into experimental electronic music..Pitch Correction of any kind doesn't fit well with classic rock, metal or country.