Dead Space: The Dead Space Retrospective

[@mohammadrahman8263]

Survival Horror is more a game of decisions. You have to decide when it's time to fight and when it's time to run away. You have to decide what is worth taking up room in your inventory. You are always making decisions in survival horror games. Non-Survival horror is a game where you do not make decisions. Like in Dead Space, as if there is any choice other than killing everything in front of you. I like Dead Space a lot, but its "action-horror" not "survival-horror". You don't feel like you're 'surviving' the game.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I think this is the best explanation on the matter.

[@mohammadrahman8263]

​@@AvalancheReviews Wow, im so flattered. Love the channel by the way.

[@Draliseth]

Okay, that does it. Firing it up before my personal October games of horror fest to see if I can objectively discredit my sentiments on the matter.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Definitely goes from survival to action by the end of the first game... But only if you've actually learned how to handle your main weapon and didn't really bother with multiple weapons.

[@bryttonica6286]

So difficulty dictates if it’s Survival Horror or not? Isn’t that subjective

[@Cybershroom]

Dead Space is one of those moments where you catch lightening in the bottle by combining the best aspects of games before it, but instead of being a pretender, solely mimicking and becoming a Resident Evil 4 clone, it became so much more than just that. It was a pinnacle of Sci-Fi horror, taking inspirations from Event Horizon, Alien, The thing and to think that this game first started as a System Shock 3 project is mind boggling. This franchise is amazing and it is a shame that the third installment strayed away from its roots, It is comparable to the first three Alien movies.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Yes. I couldn't have put it better myself.

[@Yussnan84.]

"it was a pinnacle of sci-fi horror" Hahahahahaha, don't do drugs anymore, seriously...

[@Cybershroom]

@@Yussnan84. I see you dislike opinions. Did it hurt?

[@Cybershroom]

@Rob Tin Want to compare the Assembly cut to the Awakening DLC?

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

Well I wouldn’t say the third was to bad it just wasn’t that scary compared to others.

[@jonbourgoin182]

This game holds a special place in my heart. It’s one of those games where I’ll always remember what my life was like when I was first playing it.

[@Sev3617]

Same man... same :,(

[@FBI-ju5no]

The first game I ever played, that had everything I ever wanted in it.

[@Jebus53]

Same here 👍, I'm thinking of a getting a small marker statue.

[@FBI-ju5no]

@@Jebus53 Smaller? Mine isn't big enough, and it take half my living room. Still doesn't do it justice.

[@SSaNNEE100]

Hmm well I can recall with any game how my life was. But I remember exactly with dead space 2 that I was heading for that stupid looking hive and had played the game alone for hours so I was so done at that point I just went to make bacon and drink a big glass of milk.

[@Kopenits]

I always thought it was genius how if you look at the first letter of each chapter it spells out “NICOLE IS DEAD”. It’s a nice way of rewarding the more attentive players.

[@trouslinabone]

I never even noticed. I guess it now makes sense why there was 12 chapters, when a few chapters were short as hell.

[@WH250398]

@@trouslinabone I like to imagine they did that purely because of that easter egg lol

[@INFILTR8US]

Dead Space 3 does the same thing (THE MOONS ARE AWAKE or something)

[@aechangel627]

I’m glad that people are still talking and playing Dead Space today, it proves that the game is an absolute masterpiece of pure horror.

[@milkapeismilky5464]

Replayed it during lockdown. On PC. With headphones. Whole different experience than my first playthru in 2009ish on Xbox 360. Enjoyed it immensely both times. 2009 it felt like a creative non traditional shooter. In 2020, it SCARED THE LIVING FUCKING SHIT OUT ME!

[@isaacnickel]

@@milkapeismilky5464 u should try to downscale it (resolution) without the anti alasing it looks abit outdated.

[@thatsreallyam5758]

the trilogy was on xbox game pass and i played all 3 i really loved the first one and the second, i wasn’t a huge fan of the third one though.

[@aechangel627]

@@thatsreallyam5758 I wasn’t a fan of the 3rd one ether but it was a fun co-op game

[@nicholascallis]

I just started playing it yesterday for the first time.

[@beefjerky007]

Every time I find myself in a good mood, I remember that EA shut down Visceral Games and I become depressed again.

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

Just like the fact that Silent Hill will fade away from existance forever.

[@YaBoyJRock42069]

F

[@Gruntvc]

EA killed a lot of devs. Bought them up, then didn't allow them to make the games they were great for, and then shut them down. RIP Westwood Studios, Pandemic, Visceral Games, Bullfrog, etc.

[@SSaNNEE100]

Are you guys really depressed or just throwing the word freely out there. Be happy that it happened not sad about that it ended. I have been on sick leave for 3 years because of very hard depression but companies gettin shut down isnt one of those reasons I am being depressed. I am glad that I played Dead Space and Dead Space 2, great games. Imagine if those never happened or if Dead Space was still here following the direction of Dead Space 3 and EA would be cashing the shit out of that series. It's fine as it is and will live forever in our memories.

[@nathan_drake1237]

Ea and Konami, being nothing but Horrible companies ever since the 2010s. You just wish that never happen but......you know what happens

[@dredgengam4610]

This & Bioshock really had a lasting impact on my teenage years. I'd be super pumped to come home from school and play some dead space and Bio.

[@Xstream24]

I love the plasma cutter, it's one of my favorite "tools" in a video game, doing a playthrough with just the plasma cutter made me appreciate how much thought was given to the way weapons are handled.

[@reeperdragon88]

Plasma cutter and Line Gun as it's essentially an XL Plasma Cutter lol 💀

[@INFILTR8US]

and the almighty pulse rifle

[@Dukesparrow1999]

Makes you appreciate our tools more cuz like imagine if a Necromorph like outbreak happened and the limbs was the only way to get the job done, we got chainsaw and all kinds of tools that can cause dismemberment

[@ShireDB]

Having actually played the mobile game more than it really warranted, it wasn't a port of DS1 and it was actually a separate piece of the DS canon and it has a direct reference in DS2. It's still kinda sad that it's no longer available because it had a decent amount of lore that sets aspects of DS2 up as well.

[@CIP3RM]

Was just about to leave this exact comment, I had a great time w/ the mobile game and remember it winning a bunch of awards after launch for its story and gameplay.

[@freakgoingunder]

The DS mobile game came out in that weird time frame where mobile games were polished and weren´t the full on cash grabs they eventually have become. So sad.

[@brandonhayes2363]

If memory serves I think that by playing it it unlocked certain extras in the DS2 game. Something like circuit node rooms or something

[@5nesta]

Please explain more if possible

[@rjspires]

Here's to Visceral, for one best horror games made in the last 15 years. Loved the comic that come out with the game. The iPhone/Android version of the game is in fact a spin off based around Dead Space 2. I only played it once, it played well but the touch controls made it hard to play on a small phone screen.

[@Walamonga1313]

Don't forget the animated movies

[@shooby117]

Brooo Dead Space Mobile was fire I remember I 100% beat that game, since it was the best mobile game ive ever played

[@N7gamer1337]

The animated movie for this game is just as terrifying as the game itself and that’s saying a lot

[@AvalancheReviews]

I remember really liking it.

[@kikiphallin]

The comics are even better, totally recommend them

[@overlordvasquin5184]

The Books are amazing as well!

[@Lazrael32]

@@overlordvasquin5184 The books can feel a little like fan fiction for me. But I did really enjoy the story in Martyr, and how it flipped the story of Altman on it's head, and how his actions were spun afterwords... that books was really good at adding to the story of the universe for me.

[@Walamonga1313]

@@kikiphallin Where to read them?

[@bretthicksomega]

We NEED a next gen collection already!!!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Emphasis on the NEED

[@kalebpinkston3495]

Bruh we really do

[@JustAnotherGamer1005]

And in VR!!

[@CaseFace5]

@@JustAnotherGamer1005 oh shit Dead Space in VR done right would be so badass!

[@JustAnotherGamer1005]

I would probably die from a heart attack 😅. I even have trouble getting through RE7 in VR, because those hallways in VR creep me out. And I already got heart attacks with the regular Dead Space 🤪. But I'm so 'addicted' to VR and how it really brings you into the game, I just want to be in that game, even if it scares the hell out of me. Brave in front of the tv, not so brave in VR 🤣

[@Lord_Deimos]

Dead Space is one of the best games ever made. It did what Capcom and other developers were unable or unwilling to do with horror games post RE4. Not only it managed to improve RE4's basic gameplay formula, it also pulled off an interesting story with amazing atmosphere where even gamey things such as the hud, the inventory and the waypoint are seamlessly integrated in the game world. Fun fact: Dead Space initially started development as System Shock 3 but after the success of RE4, it became its own thing

[@AvalancheReviews]

Yeah, I wish I would have included that little fact in the video.

[@Boltscrap]

No, I read it was because System Shock rights were a complete mess (which is true) and EA couldn't get them. That also explains why it's an original title from EA of all people.

[@VintageDefectors69]

Dead Space... that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. A long time.

[@Lazrael32]

yeah it's really unfortunate how EA made a unique universe inspired by RE gameplay, tweaked to be unique, and just gutted it and destroyed the audience. I remember after finishing this I was super interested in exploring more of this universe. Then after the second I was worried what the future held, then after number 3.... i knew it was over. Still hoping EA try's to revive it with a talented team... but knowing them it'll be a Fortnite clone. sigh

[@Walamonga1313]

@@Lazrael32 The second was so lame imo. People seem to love it but I never really got what supposedly made it improve. Then 3 was not DS at all

[@bouncingbluesoul5270]

An Alone In The Dark Retrospective would be so awsome.

[@Tetsuito]

I'm fine with just a New Nightmare video.

[@ifgezroxy]

Oh yeah, the series that cemented the popularity of survival horror. That would be awesome! Lets hove hope Jared, and his honey smooth voice is up for that too. 😁

[@AZJayjohn]

Playing now, not that good tbh

[@Sentientmad9m]

Only if he does it after fatal frame

[@Think1401]

mike carbny : new nightmare 💚💙

[@blabo6427]

Playing it in 2021 and it's amazing how well this game has aged. I didn't remember it was that good.

[@maxonwolf5841]

the phone version of dead space is actually its own thing! It’s sorta a prequel to dead space 2

[@lingricen8077]

Vandal

[@I_am_ENSanity]

I remember playing this game for the first time with my friends when our parents were on a vacation. It was one of the absolutely most terrifying weekends of my youth.

[@ZhuSeth]

I don't think you even mentioned my favorite part of the game, where you shoot off a limb and pull their limb to use it against them (saves a ton of ammo in the higher difficulties)

[@Boltscrap]

Works with the air vent propellers too! 2nd game dumbed down the mechanic by removing almost all physics damage outside of penetrations and effect barrels.

[@opssoldier3316]

My favorite part is in the near end of the last game. Where theres this alien power that lets you directly PULL off the limbs with telekinesis. Great game and player progression

[@falcoon_f_zero9450]

That trick only really works in the sequels. If you try to do that in Dead Space 1 you just kinda bonk the necromorphs with the bladed arm and they keep coming at you like nothing happened. But oh boy, is it satisfying to do in the sequels.

[@Boltscrap]

@@falcoon_f_zero9450 Um, no. It works very well in the first game, you just need the skill to actually aim the blades at limbs.

[@falcoon_f_zero9450]

@@Boltscrap Trust me, I've tried it many times. I set up the necromorph blade horizontally and throw it at their kneecaps but it just bounces off, the necromorph does a little stagger and keeps coming. It almost never cuts off the limb you're aiming at, especially on hard mode and beyond. I think I managed to cut off a limb from a necromorph by throwing a blade at it once, but even then I had softened that body part with a few plasma cutter shots. Actually I think that a thrown blade is the equivalent of an unupgraded plasma cutter shot, since you have to repeat many times on one limb to cut it off. So not very useful, even for saving ammo.

[@TheHarbingerofAutism]

One of my favourite things about the sound design of this game is that it makes you feel Issac's terror. There are so many moments where you can hear his increasing heartbeat and heavy breathing due to his fear.

[@sofos798]

"i always go for the line gun , a.k.a. this game's shotgun" *sad force gun noises*

[@adamaalishsiddeeg2153]

I just rain down fire on the necromorphs with the pulse rifle. Which is my favourite weapon in the franchise.

[@sofos798]

Pulse rifle was good for range and force gun helped you create space if they got too close for the rifle's secondary fire to be effective. Damn this game was so fucking good

[@NoxSliver5221]

@@adamaalishsiddeeg2153 Reminds me when markiplier played. He made a pulse rifle only challenge

[@adamaalishsiddeeg2153]

It is the best, no doubt about it. It had flaws, but to me they were one of the best games I played. This is will remain in my heart, with Mass Effect, Bioshock and F.E.A.R.

[@sofos798]

@@adamaalishsiddeeg2153 yes , these are also very good games , especially bioshock. what all these games have in common is that thick atmosphere , so fucking thick you can swim in the air . In my opinion , bioshock did it best , but all of these games did a magnificent job on that .

[@Hunty_Mo]

TBH Jared REALLY needs to do an in-depth video on what his definition of the Survival Horror genre is. How it started, how it's evolved to this day, and how it will continue to evolve in the future.

[@TagardMC]

JARED, we need to find you a new horror franchise ruined by a publisher since you're done with Silent Hill. Jared picking up plasma cutter: "I Am Home."

[@reignofrock]

Started in on RE Retrospective and was having a good time with your great content. Then, you dove into Silent Hill and I thought 'awesome, he's not just a Resident Evil fanboy'. To be fair, there are a lot of great RE content makers, just wish some would branch-out. And now, you hit me where I live. Keep it going! Can't wait for the rest of Dead Space and whatever you follow it up with!

[@Mrchair905]

Dead Space will always hold a gross sticky place in my heart

[@AvalancheReviews]

Same!

[@Fifa85-u1f]

Hallucinations, visions, whispers, audio logs (sound is just amazing), lonelines, monsters and mad survivors killing themselfs... All that creates unique sense of dread, paranoia and hopelessnes. The story itself is chilling, horrifying and very sad. Being chased be regenerator necromorph was one of the most intense moments during the game. I my final chapters i just wanted to escape from that fuc... ship thats how stressful and suffocating It was.

[@aroundthefur1210]

I don’t know, I think that this is definitely one of the better survival horror games ever made, let alone better games in general from recent generations.

[@StayedZues584]

Not survival horror

[@DaltonGoesSlow]

Everyone thinks issace face reveal comes at the end.. but if you rotate the camera in tho intro you can see it

[@Mothbean]

That's only on new game plus. On a new file the camera is locked facing forward until he puts his helmet on.

[@DaltonGoesSlow]

@@Mothbean oh! I didn't know that but I think it's different on pc because that's where I saw it and I never beat it on pc

[@Mothbean]

@@DaltonGoesSlow That's really odd. I've only ever played the PC version and I've never been able to move the camera in a new save.

[@DaltonGoesSlow]

@@Mothbean unless I've beaten it on pc and didn't know. Also there's big controller issues with pc Version so that might make a difference

[@ViktorBerg]

@@Mothbean You can rotate it in new save, I can confirm since I just replayed the game from scratch (NG) a few weeks ago. Specifically, you can rotate the camera around Isaac AFTER Kellion crashes into Ishimura, but before you get up from your seat. Isaac starts looking around the inside of the Kellion, and that's when you can rotate the camera.

[@bliglum]

Dead Space is probably my favorite horror game. A remake with modern ray traced lighting to make the gore more realistic would be an instant buy for me.

[@theonly_saga]

this is exactly what I needed to get through classes today.

[@fattony75]

Same but I am at work!

[@sebastiansochanski]

With that kind of attitude our future is bright.Lol

[@Cj-xt6tv]

Sebastian Sochanski it’s a rough time going to school these days, I don’t blame him

[@Kelis98]

Dead Space is linear, but also has some open levels. Also some interesting points on the survival horror genre.

[@ryanrichardson76]

Piecing together the story through audio logs and getting immersed in its word is the reason I think Doom 3 is the best Doom.

[@paranoyd70]

I agree, but I would also add the more realistic approach to its exploration. I loved Doom 3 but just can't get into either Doom 2016 or Doom Eternal. The various design choices of forcing the player to glory-kill enemies just to gain ammo, and constant gymnastics (pole-swinging, platforming, etc) just turn me off and I can't take it seriously. But that's just me and I know that I'm in the minority.

[@Willie6785]

Yeah, I thought it was pretty awesome when I played it too. I think people usually have a distaste for it because it strayed away from Doom's roots of a more "lighthearted" demon shooting game. I also think it's the exact same reason Doom 2016 and, to some extent, the recently released Doom Eternal ended up so praised, they went back to the previous style of game. Both styles worked well for the theme and were fun, some just got angry at this shift I suppose, maybe acting a bit too purist.

[@mateoreyes6921]

Doom 3 is a good horror game, but a terrible Doom game, in Doom i don't want to be scared, i want to be a Demon killer

[@aaronlockley9207]

I love the new DOOM games but your right. Doom 3 was alot better then people think it is.

[@mattlandry]

I'm running out of ways to say it but this is another fantastic video! I loved this game on pc and I remember it being so well optimized.

[@samsniper2000]

It ran really well but the port was terrible, weird vsync issues, framerate tied to physics and bad mouse acceleration

[@mattlandry]

@@samsniper2000 fair enough. I have just had so many inexcusable performance issues with AAA PC ports so when it looks good and it's easy to get close to 60fps, I get excited.

[@harolrvez7124]

The Observer still better than games nowadays

[@wolf1nsoul]

Deadspace was soo ahead of it's time, the sound design, dismemberment, enemy spawns, minimalistic - yet clever HUD system, phenomenal atmosphere...still a goddamn masterpiece👏

[@ryansmith9104]

This series desperately needs a comeback.

[@microtonalmilio5233]

Negative Atmosphere

[@jase1976]

A first person Resi 7 style reboot would be perfect.

[@mateoreyes6921]

@Hellbound420 Or maybe the could make a Spin-off where you are a soldier or someone who have to explore the ship in a open world style, saving survivors of the Ishimura like Dead Risign

[@stephensporman8206]

It's been confirmed EA is remaking this game. Google for more info

[@uberbyte7467]

You must feel so lucky right now.

[@OSW]

After the re-re-re-re-explanation of what is Survival Horror, I'm more confused! I hope you'd consider making a stand-alone video of "what is Survival Horror" and going through various examples of what is and what isn't, *especially* if you're citing other KZbinrs as incorrect, I think it'd be a big video for you! (their fanbases would be made aware and would check it out, and you'd get new fans). It'd be a worthwhile PSA, pls consider it!

[@bennefib]

survival horror games force you to survive based on what is provided to you, while action horror games progressively give you options in the game to keep you engaged in the actions while still providing horror elements. games like outlast you'll spend more time going " why cant i do this" " why cant i just pick up a weapon and fight the monsters" or " why does my character run like he's 200 pounds overall" just simple examples of how survival horror games force you to stick to the narrative that your rarely able to defend yourself, whereas action horror games like dead space and re4 allow you the ability to combat the horror with new weapons, ways to kill, while also pacing the horror elements, adding new new monsters the oversimplification extends not just to games, people say friday the 13th and nightmare on elm street are HORROR movies but they actually slashers/thrillers, but now as long as you get scared in a movie they put the " horror" label on it, people go see a movie and they go " i was more shocked then horrifed, it was BAD horror movie" but in reality it was actually a thriller/slasher

[@OSW]

@@bennefib thanks for the explanation! A winner is you

[@sheaedwards]

@@bennefib I disagree with the sentiment that slasher movies aren't horror. Horror is a huge, broad genre, and slashers most certainly fit into the genre, categorizing them with thrillers is entirely inaccurate. A thriller would be a movie like Joker, where it's violent, tense, and dark, but you're not necessarily supposed to be afraid, just on the edge of your seat, almost excited for the next shocking thing that happens next. Slashers are essentially just watching people try to defeat a near unkillable serial killer. A movie like Se7en wouldn't be counted because the actual murderer does not have an active presence in the plot even though they do have a direct effect on its events, as compared to Halloween where Myers is front and center in the plot and the horror of the film rather than seeing the aftermath of his rampage and trying to figure out his motivation. Thrillers are movies in entirely different genres with horror aspects in them, slashers are a subgenre of horror just as much as a psychological, body, or supernatural horror movie would be. Most people who aren't avid watchers of the genre or had no definition of it would say "I was more shocked than horrified", but horror IS just any movie/game that is intended to spark dread and fear in you without making it something you're actively hyped for like a tense car chase in an action movie. One causes anxiety, the other causes excitement, and I think that's the main difference. Action-horror is still horror because every encounter is anxiety-inducing, but the difference between action and survival is that you eventually gain the means to combat the horror as it builds with you. RE4 could be both fun and terrifying, whereas I'd fail to explain the fun in a game like Silent Hill 3 or RE2 (although I'm sure some people could the same way people could find joyous excitement in, say, Alien). Those are just my thoughts on the differentiation, I know a genre as broad as horror can be pretty interpretive though.

[@damiensawyers4133]

Yeah and then he hopefully never has to mention it again

[@brent8407]

nah other people are correct for calling dead space survival horror, action horror is just a way to say that "it's survival horror but you have a gun to shoot back" to distinguish it from games like Outlast, but they both fall under the survival horror subgenre. Don't forget that resident evil is the game which basically invented the survival horror game genre to begin with and now people would argue that those type of games are action horror instead?

[@Primecat854]

Fun Fact: Take the first letter of each Chapter name to reveal a hidden message.

[@Xternnal]

New Arrival Intensive Care Course Correction Obliteration Immitents Lethal Devotion Environmental Hazard Into the Void Search and Rescue Dead on Arrival End of Days Alternate Solutions Dead Space

[@deltaone2837]

Oh my god. That's good

[@theoneand0nly874]

Jeffrey Epstein is alive !

[@kingz7151]

Woah even till this day I never knew that wtf

[@ShadowWolf767]

@The Brethren Moons it's not like everyone is paying attention to every small detail in every game they play

[@bgm1975]

Dead Space still remains to this day one of my favorite games, probably in my top 5 of all times. I'm a big fan of sci-fi horror, but the lore of this game is so rich and detailed I get so immersed into the world. I've enjoyed all the games (yes even DS3 even with it's flaws) and it's probably the last time I really got so into a game that I bought the books and movies and enjoyed them.

[@YummyNukes]

I can confirm that the 360 version on a console with an hdmi port looks much clearer than the footage shown here. Also the fact you can play dead space without music because of the high quality ambiance gives it even higher marks in my book

[@Gruntvc]

Dead Space is also backwards compatible on Xbox One X. So it should run fine and look great. I think The entire trilogy is bc too.

[@xXJLNINJAXx]

@@Gruntvc on all xbox one consoles, not just x

[@rejamo]

The breathing alone will give you chills to your core

[@DarknessPrevails]

I think your definition for Survival Horror may be biased towards your first, most nostalgic and/or most memorable experiences with horror games like Resident Evil. From what you're saying, it seems more like you've constructed your own idea of what Survival Horror must be. I disagree with that definition in some parts, but agree in others. I do believe Dead Space is a Survival Horror game for traits that do not entirely correspond to your definition of the subgenre. In the end, I greatly enjoy your videos and absolutely love your analysis of Dead Space. Definitely my favorite horror game series ever!

[@ElGaby323]

Well said. Same thing can be said for RPGs. Everyone has their own opinion of what makes an RPG based on their first or most favorite RPG game. It's a never ending debate.

[@Jes9119]

The idea of survival is directly related to being in constant need of supplies or being fucked if you run out. I've played all three of these games to completion and in every one I was constantly dropping either ammo or health kits to be able to pick up ammo or health kits. If I'm dropping something necessary then it's not a survival situation. In a survival situation you would never drop something you need. Even in Resident Evil if you put away ammo or health items to pick up a key item, it's always temporary, you always return to get it and in Dead Space this is not the case. Enemies drop items in such abundance that you never run out unless you suck at aiming because the only reason you'd ever run out of either item is due to missing shots and taking unnecessary damage. In this case that is a you problem. He's absolutely correct by not calling this a survival horror. If anything it's more of a horror game with action elements, which is the opposite of what Resident Evil became between 4 and 6.

[@firestarex3544]

@@Jes9119 2 months late, but I would like to point out that, just as op has said, the precise definition of genres is subjective, and your idea of Survival Horror is indeed that. For example, in my personal opinion, "Survival" involves resource management rather than having a general lack of resources. To me, Dead Space is stuck in this weird spot between Survival Horror and Action Horror, but I think this actually works in it's favor and makes it unique.

[@JJRodriguez]

Jared: the guy to help you reminisce about the good old days and remind you how they went to shit. Never change, man. Also: waiting on that Stasis review. It's been years!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Fuck.................I deserve to be shamed for that.

[@ashirogielric2489]

Avalanche Reviews Shame!

[@birdman9632]

Dude you’ve been working so hard these past 2 years I respect it so much keep up the good work dude

[@AvalancheReviews]

It's all worth it. Creating this stuff is fun as hell!

[@trippyskullz6669]

Black guy in this game (sorry) is the same actor from RE1 the movie that got cut up by the laser grid.

[@trippyskullz6669]

And was the guy that got kicked into the pit during THUS IS SPARTA!!! In 300

[@AvalancheReviews]

Oh shit! That guy's been in so much, and I never recognize him. That's insane! He did a great job in Dead Space.

[@trippyskullz6669]

@@AvalancheReviews kinda like a bootleg candyman. Gotta respect him.

[@trippyskullz6669]

Haven't you seen METROID upgrades=suit upgrades?!

[@venomfuryx3250]

It's actually not the same actor, the guy in the RE movie is played by Colin Salmon, the guy in Dead Space is played by Peter Mensah.

[@igodreamer7096]

Sound direction. That alone strike my heart so hard that makes impossible to me not love this game! xD

[@jacobia7093]

Soooooo glad you talked about the sound design in Dead Space. I bought the game when it first came out and played it on my PS3 with headphones on, and your absolutely right. Every aspect of the sound design is second to none, and the ambient noises emitted from the Ishimura really, really kept you immersed and on edge from being in this giant and lonely, threatening space. And having the U.I as an organic part of the gameplay was pure genius. An absolute top tier horror gaming experience, all those involved in it’s creation should be very proud of what they achieved, because I most certainly am 🙏

[@Walamonga1313]

I never played it with headphones. Thankfully Origin had it for free like 3 years ago. So I snagged it and I'll one day replay it on PC with proper headphones

[@jacobia7093]

@@Walamonga1313 My friend, it’s awesome. I hope you enjoy your replay 👻😎👍

[@MrD-ul2xk]

I had Dead Space on my iPod touch when it originally came out, and although it could be no where near as good as the console/pc versions, it actually held up really well at the time! It was well made and actually felt scary at times, at least to my younger self. If you ever find a working port that can play like how it originally did, then I highly recommend!

[@AvalancheReviews]

I would have liked to have actually tried it out.

[@A427-w2v]

This is the game that brought back survivor horror to me. This is the first game I walked with my gun raised up at the ready that's how sacred I was. Love this game.

[@DarthCariss]

Great review, Jared! Happy to see you covering this amazing series and singing its praises (well, for this game at least. I'll be curious to see your take on the later entries), even if at multiple points in the video you left me wondering who died and made you the authority on the definition of survival horror, haha. Looking forward to the next one!

[@AvalancheReviews]

and Shinji Mikami were talking, and I'm the decider now. HA!

[@SSaNNEE100]

I agree very much with the story telling point of yours. I remember reading wikia for the first time ever for Dead Space to know more. Also its funny how Mirror's Edge games were criticized for making the world's story telling about collectibles and knowing more only if you were searching for documents, bags and security recordings. I love that games make you to work for yourself if you want to know more about the world around you. Games are to be played in the end, not movies to be watched.

[@6ixlxrd]

Survival horror isn’t technically about the horror itself, but the varying means and intricacies of resource management which revolve around surviving the horror. Its core gameplay loop centers around an almost puzzle-like gameplay which entails managing resources, navigating areas of a map, possessing environmental awareness of said map thanks to the constant threat of enemies, choosing weapons (and changing them based on enemy types, enemy weaknesses, and/or environmental hazards), managing ammo for said weapons, managing upgrades for said weapons at the cost of resources which could be alternatively used for different purposes (such as upgrading your character), being frequently forced into unavoidable conflicts you have no choice but to “survive” against (one of the *primary* driving features of the genre; it’s not always a survival horror if you can CHOOSE which battles you go into…what you choose is how to approach and tackle the enemies presented before you based on your weapons, ammo, and resource availability). I could go on. Left 4 Dead is a survival horror game. The Evil Within. Alien: Isolation. Outlast. Dying Light. Silent Hill. All survival horrors. Yet, each and every one of those games is variously different from one another, if for no other reason than “survival horror” being one of the most flexible genres out there (it’s not as stale, rigid, and one-tracked as you believe). Despite their differences, fundamentally, they are all the same. They all promote resource management, environmental awareness, choice of approach to conflict based on resource availability, an inventory, etc. Some are open-world. Some are linear. Some have stealth mechanics. Some are straight action. Some allow you to run from enemies. Some force you to fight or die to them. But the core fundamentals between each are almost identical. So I disagree. Dead Space is survival horror.

[@chipslight738]

Dead Space 1 and 2 always gave me the feel of "It's kinda like if I was playing Metroid Prime but with a huge focus on horror" and seeing the Metroid Prime Trilogy has the whole are my favorite games of all time, you can be sure it's high praise from me.

[@DeadPixel1105]

How I explained Dead Space to my friends was: "It's basically a third-person perspective Doom 3."

[@SatansLeadGuitarist]

Since you have such a specific definition of what Survival Horror is, does that apply to other genres as well? is a game not really an RPG if it doesn't follow D&D rule sets? is a game not really an FPS if it doesn't play and have mechanics just like doom? My point is that genres evolve over time. These days its genres are almost meaningless as most games mix in elements of other genres, so we dont really have many pure FPS games anymore. Most of them have some kind of RPG mechanics or open world gameplay, but they are still first person shooters. Just because something doesn't look or play exactly like the first game in the genre doesn't mean it cant still be a part of the genre. All that being said, i still love your content and cant wait to see the rest of the Dead Space Retrospective.

[@AvalancheReviews]

This is copy pasted from another comment because it fits here too. It's not my definition though. I default to the game the coined the term. I think it's fair the game that created the genre gets to define it. Static camera angles, non linear exploration, but not quite open world. Limited inventory. Backtracking in order to collect key items which open up more of the play area, leading to more backtracking. Combat that is both dis incentivized, and not rewarded. I know that sounds like the same thing, but it isn't. Combat has to be detrimental enough, that avoiding it becomes not only possible, but optimal, and downing enemies can't supply you with any extra resources, beyond the benefit of not having that enemy in your way any more. A hard emphasis on puzzle solving and a near adventure game approach to design. Survival horror games are giant puzzles, that sometimes allow you to engage in combat. Every decision from where to go, to what to take with you, needs to be a piece of that puzzle. These decisions need to be available, and they need to rewarded/punished accordingly. Taking too many health items, means not picking up that key item. Taking the short cut, means passing by that enemy that's hard to kill and that means, deciding on whether to spend ammo killing it, or health items dodging it. Pretty much.........just take RE1. If an element in "X" game is present, but not in RE1, that's ok. I like additions to the formula, but if a feature is present in RE1, and not "X: game, it's probably not survival horror.

[@1000rogueleader]

@@AvalancheReviews That's way too restrictive and also just asinine. As Neil said, genres evolve and their definitions will change and shift over time. Some things that were in RE1 (like the camera angles) were completely incidental to the product and more a result of technical limitations that limited the games at the time. Nobody would say that Super Mario Galaxy wasn't a platformer just because it isn't a 2D 8-bit sidescroller like the original Super Mario Bros. If Resident Evil had been made in first person (as it was originally planned to be), you would be saying the same thing about any horror game that wasn't in first person. Even more to the point, when Resident Evil was made, Capcom didn't set out to create a new genre of horror; it just kind of morphed into being that in the popular consciousness, just like Spaghetti Westerns was more of a pop culture term created to define a specific subset of westerns made in Italy, and only became something of an ill-defined sub-genre of westerns with time. Not everything that was in RE1 was integral to it being survival horror. So what was? Its in the name: Survival: Focused on the survival mechanics, like the management of limited health and resources. Horror: Its a horror story. That's it. That's the only requirements of being a survival horror game. Now, is Dead Space survival horror? Don't know, haven't played it. That being said, it does seem to be an action horror game only because the survival elements seem to be minimal and there is more a focus on shooting everything, turning the game into a shooting gallery. Everything else though, is secondary to those basic aspects.

[@minatoarisatofrompersona3440]

@@AvalancheReviews I agree with some of what you’re saying here but saying that static camera angles are required to call a game Survival Horror is a little ridiculous imo

[@YumiSumire]

@@AvalancheReviews I don't think having to solve puzzles is being a survival horror game.

[@Ishimura89]

@@minatoarisatofrompersona3440 Don't treat him like he's an authority on the subject. Dead space is absolutely survival horror, but he's entitled to his opinion.

[@garfusa2]

I always loved Isaac's gait in this game. Hunched over and tense like hes waiting to kerb stomp EVERYTHING that's getting in his way.

[@igodreamer7096]

Didn't know the same guys who worked in everything Or Nothing also work in Dead Space. Love that game! =)

[@Guiltyconscience83]

Was totally blown away by this game. Got it at the game store having no knowledge of what it was. Ome of my all time favorite games. The atmosphere and music are really well done.

[@ryanremington746]

You know when you started talking about the ports, it made me remember how Dead Space was one of the first ps3 games to implement trophies. Heck, they had to patch them into MGS4.

[@lingricen8077]

Yeah, they patched it in just after I got Big Boss rank…

[@kamael1125]

Hands down one of the best horror Sci fi games ever made. Incorporated UI into Isaacs suit, story, combat mechanics... Everything is near perfection

[@Walamonga1313]

You forget the best thing. Enemy design and sound design

[@kamael1125]

@@Walamonga1313 I said "everything" didn't I 😉

[@DJ_Macphisto]

Speaking of Condemned, I would love to see a retrospective on that series. It doesn't get the love that it kind of deserves, in my opinion.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Check out Grimbeards series. It's probably the best review of the games you can find. No joke, he's amazing.

[@BoondockBrony]

@@AvalancheReviews Thanks for the recommendation. I love Condemned second favorite franchise outside RE when it comes to horror

[@marssamuelzacarias8375]

Been waiting so long for a remastered collection of this gem of a series!

[@paranoyd70]

Survival Horror DOESN'T have to be more open. Don't know where you get the idea that linear design can't be "survival-horror."

[@Getreidekeks]

Apparently he thinks it games that use the exact mechanics and level building of the early resident evils are "real" survival horror games. Theres a comment way down below or copy pasted more towards the top where he gives an example of a hypothetical game not having one key mechanic of RE1 not not fitting into the survival horror genre. Fucked up

[@The_Sharktocrab]

Yeah genres arent that strict

[@DustinEdenYT]

Played this for the first time in August this year and man does this game hold up well. One more observation I made is how well they translated Isaac's engineering suit. The controls are just sluggish enough to feel the sheer weight of the suit without feeling too slow. It's quite genius if you think about it, it created that similar feeling you get from tank controls while still having full maneuverability. It really hits that tiny sweet spot. And it only gets better when you keep upgrading it, making it look more and more strong and mature as you mentioned. Having a fully maxed out gear at the end made me feel like a destroyer of worlds, only for me to get wrecked with even more challenging enemies and bosses.

[@beefychief3355]

There’s only one other horror game that scares me more than the first Dead Space and it came out over 16 years ago. It’s called “The Suffering”. You should try it, I still can’t even watch gameplay without jumping or freaking out and I’m 20 years old.

[@domalom9483]

What a game!! The lore of the creatures in The Suffering is brilliant and the multiple endings was great as well! They even carried the endings of the first game (whichever ending you got in the first) into the sequel so when you started the second game it would begin of how you would’ve left the island, so that’s some good continuity

[@beefychief3355]

Domalom 94 honestly man. It terrified me as a kid but it was too damn good of a game and addicting to put it down. I still remember the first time seeing each different type of creature for the first time.

[@domalom9483]

Beefy Chief same here dude, the introduction of the Mainliner got me bad and I was 10 years old when I first played it so it definitely left its mark!

[@Deadman_Elit3]

This is the 1st time I've ever seen someone else mention The Suffering! I loved that game

[@beefychief3355]

Dylan it’s because it released at a weird time. Resident Evil 4 also came out shortly after which overshadowed every other game that was considered “survival horror”.

[@GodOfWar221]

Dead Space, is one of those gems that comes along every once and a while. It is by far, one of my favorite game series of all time. The level designs were amazing, and the sound effects..whether it's the creaking of the Ishimura's bulkhead..or the sound of a wrench falling nearby, always keeps you on edge..and fills you with a sense of paranoia about what's around the next corner. If there was a game series out there, that deserved a remaster..it's the Dead Space series.

[@toprem4037]

19:40 - replaying the game a few years ago and looking at a Steam guide I learned that the Pulse Rifle is by far the best weapon in the game

[@Ardauxca]

Going to be honest, I tried the Pulse Rifle and I wasn't a fan of it. Personally, the only weapon you need is the Plasma Cutter but my first playthrough also consisted of the Line Gun as my only backup.

[@DigitalFulcrum]

Wow a reviewer who can actually distinguish between what makes a game horror or survival horror.

[@ArcNeoMasato]

Do.... do we tell him about the animated movie that literally is about showing the events that lead up to where this game starts? lol

[@Dan-df1kb]

I actually don't mind the animated dead space film (downfall I think it's called). Wasn't a fan of the cheesy dialogue or some of the artwork but it's a perfectly serviceable film. I like to think of it as a hungover chill out Sunday film. Avalanche is correct though the game is definitely best going into with no knowledge of what happened and maybe giving the film a go once you completed it.

[@ArcNeoMasato]

@@Dan-df1kb True, and I don't even dislike it myself, but also agreed, the story you make in your head is usually better than when they show you. Though that also leads to a strength of the movie having the Animatrix approach with multiple art styles and such, making each part of the story feel skewed to the perspective of the current character. That second movie though, dear lord that cheap CGI. I've legit never finished it just because of how bad that looks. Someday I really need to though.

[@Dan-df1kb]

I never looked at the first film as an Animatrix style film. It's a great comparison thinking about it. My only gripe with the art was some of the more CGI heavy scenes. The scene where the ship cracks the planet comes to mind for me. But yeah other than that and some dialogue it's an enjoyable and inoffensive movie. The second one however jeez, I don't have the words. Awful artwork, terrible story and completely forgettable. Only thing I remember from that movie is Strauss from dead space 2 is in there somewhere and I'm surprised I even remember that lol.

[@Celicagame13]

Arc Neo Masato he mentions the movie in the review

[@ArcNeoMasato]

@@Dan-df1kb Such hope you've given me for when I attempt to watch it again. lol

[@Pohnzo]

i played this game back on 360 and just finished it today on pc and wow what a great game it was. I noticed you never are face to face directly with any actual people, it is always between glass and the only time you are able to see someone in front of you their fate has already been sealed. it adds to the hopeless feeling of those who were trapped onboard the station, and gives a feeling of isolation. Those people you see on the other sides of the glass are always safe while you remained trapped awaiting what is coming next. This game reminds me of two of my favorite games growing up, resident evil and doom 3.

[@AvalancheReviews]

That's actually a killer point!

[@crozraven]

For me there are differences in the game design between "Horror" & "Survival" Horror & "Action" Survival Horror. Here it is: Horror genre: it's more about how you escape/avoid the horror/nightmares that you encounters to pushed forward. You can defend yourself a more active manner or even just simply no defensive design at all. Survival Horror genre: It's more about "how you approach" the horror encounters, to survive, to push forward, all within the limitations that you must manage it in wise-manner, whether it's active or reactionary, aggressive or defensive, & so on. Action Survival Horror: It's about how much "aggressive" you are when encounters the horrors. Your "actions," as in particularly your skills with aggresive actions matters the most to push forward.

[@treborkroy5280]

Yawn, you gamers are more anal about your games labels than Tumblr are with their pronouns.

[@joshuak5798]

God I remember playing that dead space game about a decade ago, I remember having a lot of fun with it. Thanks for the nostalgia kick.

[@gman3229]

First off, love the content. I consider myself a fan of "survival horror" gaming. I have always consider survival horror a game in which is "scary", but also in which ammo and health items are perishable and scarce. You dispute that dead space does not meet the criteria with providing your definition of the criteria. So, next time you make that argument, please clarify.

[@ThatNewDude29]

I have legitimately put so many hours into the first two games of this series. I have a save file in the first game with 20 cleared runs, and the second with 15 cleared runs. I love this series to death, even the third, which while not as good as the other two, i still really enjoy and have played through it quite a few times as well.

[@cruxlamar9681]

Will you actually cover the comics and movies? That got me excited!

[@Tetsuito]

He covered the Silent Hill movies.

[@AvalancheReviews]

The sings are pointing towards yes

[@cruxlamar9681]

@@AvalancheReviews You'll probably never see my face but i want you to know i smiled😂

[@jacobia7093]

Avalanche Reviews Ok, that’s great.....but what about the signs?? Seriously though, if you’re a man of your word, you’re going to have to sing an intro when you come to do the comics and movies 😜🤗

[@ThatNewDude29]

Ooh! I actually played the mobile dead space game! It actually wasn’t a port of the regular game, but a kinda of Pre-Sequel/spinoff that took place at the start of the main outbreak in deadpsace 2! In fact, your character in that game was the one who made it possible for the necromorphs to get into the main station itself after being tricked into doing so. From what i remember the game played very well and i had a good deal of fun with it.

[@marcuslee3051]

Drinking game: take a shot every time Jared says “to be honest”

[@Issac_The_Last_N7]

I remember playing this game for the first time with the lights off & my headphones firmly in my ears. The atmosphere & immersion took me into the world & i genuinely felt terrified but also excited. I truly miss that experience

[@nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978]

actually i preferred DS1's slowed controls because it added to the immersion. after all, isaac is just an everyday civil engineer, not yet a moon-busting necromorph veteran

[@duran4689]

Games like these are the reason I became very interested in science. Currently almost done with a bachelors in science and still love learning more and more about scify/science. Nerd at heart 🤝🏼

[@Rolo1507]

What difficulty was he playing when he said that items aren’t hard to come by?

[@falcoon_f_zero9450]

Looks like normal difficulty by looking at how the necromorphs go down and how much he takes damage. The game is super generous with resources on the normal mode.

[@THEG0ATLOVER]

Was wondering that myself and even thought maybe he was confusing this one and Dead Space 2 a little bit where enemies drop resources on death making items very easy to come by in that game.

[@jetboil4417]

Your reviews are EPIC! You have reviewed nearly all of my favourite games and opened my mind to other people’s perspectives. I could listen to your reviews all day.

[@KenshiDW]

The passiv aggressiveness was Hilarious :" Then maybe you should start a relatively unsuccessful KZbin channel."

[@AvalancheReviews]

I try

[@tomjoad8272]

This game is such shot of nostalgia for me. I had heard or seen absolutely nothing about this game when I seen it on the shelf of my now defunct movie gallery. Popped it in the 360 and was absolutely blown away and terrified. It's a forgone time when we didn't have smartphones and a constant stream of information. So you had to make a decision on the game just based on the cover art

[@LyaksandraB]

Jared acting kinda sus about leaving his survival horror definition at the door.

[@DemonKingCozar]

He's an imposter

[@nacholashow]

really good retrospective. I remember it was one of those games where it revitalise the genre it is set in. really loved the setting and the environment you are just put in. and the fact that the first weapon you use as Isaac isn't even a weapon but a tool for cutting rocks (or something in the realm of cutting something) really shows how Isaac utilises his surroundings to his advantages. and I was also one of the lucky people who got to play Dead Space on iOS, and for the life of me, it was one of the more immersive games that came out at that time. and it ran really smoothly as well. obviously it wouldn't triumph over the PC or console version, but the fact that at one point we were able to play this using our phones, really blew my mind away.

[@briandaniel7514]

hate to tell you this but this game is the very definition of survival horror... Just as in the original Resident Evil (the game that many say defined the Survival Horror Genre) you have a limited inventory space, finite ammo/health resources and blood, gore, scary monsters and horrific images....

[@civilizedsquid2455]

As a small child I watched my dad play-through dead space. All 100% of it, I was hooked instantly. Gave me nightmares for years and singlehandedly started my love for horror. God i fucking love Dead Space, best horror game ever made IMO.

[@tomatowarfare849]

Jared: "Thank for sitting through another long one.: Me: "Wait is it over so soon? I had too much fun!" Also Jared, if I would not have killer day, just thanks to getting a vid from you, I am definitely gonna have one now.

[@AvalancheReviews]

Hell yeah! Good to hear man!

[@darthnihilus7951]

One of the things I love so much about Dead Space is how conceptually unique and believable it is. I'd even argue that the sound design is at least on par with Silent Hill.

[@OSW]

Really enjoyed this one! love your deep bassy calming voice, and cool to see the mobile port as I'd never heard of it. Android Isaac walks like he's stepping on hot coals 😆 (40:09) Quick suggestion: Any chance of breaking up the sections of the retrospective with a title card and maybe 10 seconds of music? it would give us a quick breather before jumping back in. cheers!

[@AvalancheReviews]

Not a bad idea at all actually. I usually do that in my regular reviews. I kind of liked the seamless nature of going straight from one topic to another. I'll put a poll out of twitter and let's see what everyone thinks.

[@reanimatorpl]

I like your videos without any cards and breaks

[@alfreddominguezlll5417]

Can pause for an option..

[@ChessArmyCommander]

Dead Space was one hell of a fun ride! I played it when it first came out. And now, recently I started a new game on the Xbox One X and I'm playing Dead Space for the first time on a 65 inch OLED tv. And it feels like a fresh experience on a *big* screen in a dark room! I'm sitting some what close to this big tv and there is an *in your face* feeling I've never had before with the game. Its awesome!

[@errorcode1815]

Love this game, including the sequels! Please give me 4 or some sort of RE2 level of remake

[@AvalancheReviews]

God, that would be amazing!

[@albertelazar4069]

Dead Space 2008 is still in my unbiased opinion, the BEST one of the whole trilogy, which also includes the 2023 remake! There's a certain original quality about it, that is hard to explain!

[@AZJayjohn]

Dead space mobile was a decent game to play however it had nothing to do with the original game. It's actually a completely separate game lol

[@NikkiWrightVGM]

Late 2008 was just an incredible time for game releases with longevity and replayability. Dead Space 1, LittleBIGPlanet, Fallout 3, and Saints Row 2 are all games I've played OVER AND OVER again. I've long since mined every piece of content out of all these games and I still keep coming back. I have put AT LEAST 500 hours into each of them.

[@chumorgan443]

Calling a game "survival horror" because it has Monsters is like calling a game " Dark souls clone" because it's challenging.

[@DemonKingCozar]

So is does this mean that Dead space is the dark souls of "survival"/action horror? Or am i just being dumb

[@yoshii9967]

Whats ya point exactly are you trying to say dead space isn't a survival horror ? Cause it is

[@chumorgan443]

@@yoshii9967 It's an awesome and scary 3rd Person shooter with Monsters for sure. But there's no planing or strategy involved. Not every game is a "platformer" just because there's a jump button.

[@yoshii9967]

@@chumorgan443 okay I agree but its still a survival horror game

[@chumorgan443]

@@yoshii9967 About as much as Devil may cry or God of war.

[@stevenesbitt3528]

The relief felt when you get to the trams! I still feel it even when watching this video.

[@DaltonGoesSlow]

Okay either the whole world is wrong about survival horror, or maybe avalanches 3rd.. or 4th explanation of survival horror is still wrong 😂😂 Shirtless Wii fit review

[@AvalancheReviews]

At 100k subs

[@DaltonGoesSlow]

@@AvalancheReviews BRB LEMME SHARE

[@DaltonGoesSlow]

@@AvalancheReviews imma hold you to that!!

[@rbelljr29]

Not only do I LOVE this franchise, but it was the first 360 game that I hit 100% on. My proudest moment was knocking out the achievements for clearing it on impossible, and only using the plasma cutter, in one go.

[@flarepie24]

honestly i dunno what youre talking about with aiming being messed up on pc, i played the pc version i think a year or so before 3 was released and i did it on a meh laptop with no issues

[@deezee2965]

I can't wait to see your DEad Space 3 review man. Your content is always a blast to watch! Always nicely covered.