Avalon King REVEALED - Where it comes from and why it is in my Chinese Only Coatings Test

Lets jump down the rabbit hole that is Armor Shield IX aka Avalon King and find out a little more about it.
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[@thebaldfox711]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for doing the good work. I get hit with adverts for Avalon King all the time... I always had a bad feeling about it, and now I know why.

[@joshharris2777]

Same here

[@malcolmsparks3838]

Understandable, but they actually offer a really good product and service no matter what your concerns are about their ads.

[@ricardoharewood775]

Cheap and chinese isnt because they are made in China it's because that's what the businesses want for higher profit. You can purchase low and very high quality stuff from China you decide. That being said just like in the US all coatings are not created equal even when they are made by the same formulating companies because.... different companies want sifferent things and to be different places in the market so even though Blender X makes two products and they look and smell similar one has more actual effective ingredients. I have never used Avalon King but there have been enough tests and testimonies ( yup and some were sponsored) to show that it is a cut above the usual coatings we see from China. SPTA buffers/ polishers are made in China but they are good quality so we can't just sum up all Chinese products as garbage even though I have seen/tested a fair share

[@sueromero239]

scott you need to do an expose on ceramic pro. I think there's way less awareness that they are a chinese company, both HQ and manufactured, and that their product can be bought similarly for fractions of the price

[@citus44]

I asked the question on Avalon Kings Fakebook page where the product was manufactured, they replied that it was Made in China, so they did tell the truth. I had already purchased 2 kits of the ceramic coating. Since I already had them I put it on my 2018 Honda CRV on 22 May 2021. So far it's holding up ok but has some weak places on the lower door panels. I did the proper prep work before application. I used to own an auto detail shop so the prep work was 100% correct. I only applied one coat, as of right now I think I might get 1 year or less of protection from it. I have also washed it several times using the correct ph soap, can't say I did it every 2 weeks ( we had A LOT of rain this year so I missed some weekly washes, I live in GA, USA ) but I have kept up the maintenance. The coating works and after the original application the car DID look awesome. It seems to be fading now, I can't really complain but there is no way I will get 2 to 3 years out of it. In my opinion the coating is just OK, not great, not poor. That is my 5 month report. Hope this helps.

[@-rudy-]

I used mine on a couple of cars, including a 2009 CR-V. I applied it in September 2020, and I would say that by spring of this year, it had nearly completely failed on the paint. But what really surprised me is that the plastic trim, which on the CR-V is prone to typical sun bleaching, the ceramic coating still has the plastic looking like new. It is starting to get slightly blotchy on the trim now in just a couple of places (you have to get up close to see it) but otherwise, compared to another 2009, the ceramic-treated plastic still looks much better, almost like new. At least thanks to Scott's videos, and especially this one, I can get about the same level of performance at a third of the price. And also, based on his tests, if paying $70 or more for a better coating only nets me another six months of protection, what's the point?

[@ralphcormier3864]

Great work. I purchased two bottles when it first came out just got interested in detailing my own cars and trusted Man the Advertiser, silly me live and learn

[@unknownriderinbound]

Thanks for being a real dude and not one of them anything- for-a- buck "influencers"!

[@ScottHD]

You're welcome!

[@dirtyjuansancheez]

@Man The Advertiser surely not Paaaaaaaaaaaaaan the Advertiser?

[@Hemojang]

Excellent sluething! Thanks for the Import Genius site!!!

[@cdnaudioguy]

While this is interesting, it doesn't really matter where it comes from. All that matters is the performance. :-) Your testing will reveal that.

[@ScottHD]

Precisely!

[@ScottHD]

...and so far it's done okay

[@jusb1066]

It does matter that you can buy it for $5 and not 70

[@marthawatts6421]

I don't really care to be honest. I received great service and the product is still going strong on my daily after a year.

[@lilianamontes6817]

@@marthawatts6421 how was the application?

[@Normster32]

Great stuff sir, really getting into the nitty gritty 👍

[@hussam842003]

I really appreciate this review and how you tracked them! I wish any KZbinr who advertise their product as they sponsor their video to dig what you found….. I bought it when another KZbinr recommended it and If I saw this I wouldn’t buy it or recommend it. Thanks again and keep up the good work!

[@elsdon7335]

Why wouldn't you buy it, if it's a good product? I too purchased it and have had it on my car for 2 years. I don't care if it's produced in China, the United States, or Mexico for that matter. All that matters is the quality of the product and the support of a company.

[@hussam842003]

@@elsdon7335 How good $5 ceramic coating could be? This is just not right, we fall for buying it….I used it too but I will not get my hopes up or buy it again.

[@elsdon7335]

@@hussam842003 How do you know, if it's the same product? The supplier made like 5 different products with different prices. It could be that they have a unique item. In any case, you should go buy the cheapest one on Amazon if that's your criteria. Mr. Fix it is your friend. Your welcome. And just for the record, I don't care about Avalon, but it's sad to see companies getting shit without any proper evidence.

[@hussam842003]

@@elsdon7335 if I want to buy the cheapest, I would’ve gone to Amazon! I look for good products and good influencers who would recommend good products! After a real review not just promote it. I know china products are everywhere and there is good and bad but with Avalon I feel it’s not up to the good standards and time will tell.

[@nitishgoel1576]

Its all about marketing. Greatly enjoy your videos. Thanks for your work.

[@savage6394]

Thanks for the great info. Helpful as always! I’ll bet there are a few people that don’t want this video seen.

[@ScottHD]

Pretty likely

[@lilianamontes6817]

Love your channel, your one of the good guys on youtube and i like all the testing but i dont understand the hatred for things being made in china. as you mentioned at the beginning with apple theres a reason all high tech companies manufacture there. the other thing and this hurts me to point out but in your recent tests all the USA made stuff is doing really badly! Most of them have failed lol!

[@fskof]

Thanks Scott. I respect people that take the time to do research vs just posting opinions/feelings. Keep up the great work! P.S. How can someone give a negative thumbs down on a video stating facts?.... oh wait never mind..lol

[@ScottHD]

We always know who is the 👎 each video. Haha.

[@notsodelusional]

Very interesting stuff. The biggest takeaway is this: *All* of these ceramic coating companies are making money hand over fist on this crap. If the Chinese stuff works just as well or almost as well, I'll take it.

[@pasqualepisani]

Good to know. Thank you for educating us

[@pantherjack2583]

I almost bought some a while back but thought a certain Canadian youtuber was pushing it a bit to hard. Glad I didn't! Love that this channel is independent and not biased in a anyway or even trying to sell us anything it's very refreshing. Keep up the excellent work 👍

[@ScottHD]

Thank you. I plan on keeping it that way, no matter how big it gets. I won't sell out, I promise!

[@layzy24]

Pan didn't push it. He just did a review over the course of one year of it. Only three videos as far as I know.

[@jsasu.3]

Glad i decided to stay with Carpro CQuartz UK 3.0 for my coating choice.

[@wjanis1]

Used it on a new car. Seems to work, but the car has an easy life. I’m not sure about most automotive waxes/coatings. Waiting to see your test results.

[@skzion2]

Fascinating.

[@kyrkbymannen]

Thanks for this! I've been thinking of testing a lower cost ceramic coating on my new mercedes since avalon king end up costing almost 200$

[@jvande102]

I had a bad experience with the Avalon King Armour Shield 9 I recently installed on my new Yukon in that it's failing shockingly early. A little background, vehicle had 300 miles on it at this point: Just over 3 weeks ago the 16 hours of prep work started so I could install this coating. I started with performing 2 contact washes using Adam's Strip Wash and my foam cannon. From there I used a synthetic clay mitt to clay the entire vehicle. Adam's Detail Spray was used as the clay lubricant. Following this, I hit the Yukon with a light polish using Griot's Garage Perfecting Cream. Final step before applying the coating was going over the whole thing with Gyeon Prep. Lastly, the Avalon King coating was applied and left to cure for 4 full days before the Yukon was driven. During this entire period, the garage was kept at 70 degrees. Fast forward to yesterday when I performed the first contact wash (Adam's Graphene Shampoo) since the coating was applied and the entire vehicle is sheeting water really slow! It's possible I did something wrong but I can't see where. Now I know why!

[@goanit]

Damn buddy, you are the man with this stuff! Now the question is if any of this stuff is legit and actually a good coating. If so, you're going to be able to ceramic coat your car for the price of some seal and shine from Turtle wax!

[@ScottHD]

Exactly! I have tested NanoAge aka Nano Bond in several tests and it's done quite well

[@proflex310]

Scott, I think you should test their new 20% SiO2 ceramic spray. And thank you as always for a great content !

[@ScottHD]

Already purchased it and it arrived yesterday!

[@cynthiaenglish2736]

Supposedly, it has over 20% of SIO2.

[@lezamaproductions5997]

Thanks !

[@ScottHD]

Not sure what happened at 4:07 - Didn't see that in my editing!

[@ariel54cv]

AvalonKing was the product I just tried due to name recognition. With some creatively applied discounts it is 40$ a bottle. The thing that turned me off was I couldn’t get it to flash over a lot of the time. With a 30ml bottle I could barely do 1/3rd of a car. Applying it heavily seemed to help but then I ran out very quickly. Surface might have been contaminated and Mothers CMX surface prep wasn’t enough to clean it (after waterless wash and clay bar). I tried cleaning panels with new microfibers and multiple passes and it didn’t seem help. Only thing that worked was applying heavily.

[@cheemomugdoo799]

Wasn't it interesting that when it was time for Man the Advertiser to coat his new 911 Turbo S he didn't use Avalon King, but a professional grade coating that was available to the general public if you used his code? I'm sure Roar is a better coating, but it was just another example of pay for play.

[@ScottHD]

But of course

[@mattheviewer]

Very interesting and informative! Makes one wonder what markup is on USA sourced products that can cost $ 3000 to install. Much of an install cost boils down to labor but still wondering how actual product fits into cost structure. At end of day, performance and durability is what matters most, isn't it?

[@ScottHD]

Precisely

[@integra8502]

Hmm So interesting... can you find out where CQ UK3.0 is made ?

[@Topcoatdetail]

Intersting. Someone dropped a case in India not to show it to the public. I believe latest data can be be purchased for a fee

[@cynthiaenglish2736]

Thanks for the research Scott. I think the cost of all coatings are inflated and all of these companies (US brands included) are making hefty - if not obscene - profits from our thirst for all things ceramic. I wonder how many (and which) ceramic coatings are truly formulated/made in the US?

[@ScottHD]

Very few if I had to guess. B&B blending (Adams) is for sure made in the USA.

[@bosswindowtint]

B&B Blending (Adam's, Ethos, Glassparancy, Xtreme Solutions, etc.)

[@sueromero239]

Wish scott would cover ceramic pro, their chinese base and their manipulative marketing

[@blackrhinocarcare1087]

SPEED SLICK, BLACK RHINO AND GRAPH-X are all made in America by BLACK RHINO CAR CARE. We produce small batches right here in Missouri. We are a newer and smaller company than some of the others, so you may or may not have heard of us yet. But we're sending Scott some products....so hopefully you will soon. 👍

[@ScottHD]

@@blackrhinocarcare1087 I'll be happy to test them. Send to my PO box if you are able otherwise email me for UPS/FedEx address. Thank you!

[@-rudy-]

I have no issue with Avalon King being made in China, but do have an issue paying that much, especially when equivalents or near-equivalents exist from the same manufacturing company for a third of the cost. Quite an eye-opener. 👍👍

[@-rudy-]

Or it's another way of saying that Avalon King for $70 performs like a $20-$30 ceramic coating from Amazon, all made by the same company. (Your battery of tests is proving that to be the case.) If I pay $70, I would want it to perform like a $70 ceramic coating, not a $20 coating. It's essentially an impulse-buy, overpriced "influencer" product. My experience with Avalon King pretty much matches your test results--it won't even last two years. (Thankfully I bought a few bottles at a deep discount, not the full $70.)

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

Seems about right.

[@MoistShot]

Great detective work here, Scott. That said, I think the logic is weak. As someone working for a US cosmetic brand, I can tell you first hand that most companies are producing in China due to the fact that you can get a superior product compared to the price it would cost in the US. But more importantly, just because Avalon King's supplier can produce a product cheaper, doesn't mean that their formula and contents are the same. Another way to look at it is that just because Home Depot is producing and selling a 5 gal. bucket, doesn't mean that they can't produce and sell other buckets. Full disclosure: I am a customer of theirs.

[@victorcruz2941]

Agree 100%. In today's world our cars are made part in China, Mexico, USA and Taiwan. The same applies to medicines, TV , etc. Is just the way things are done.

[@leonknapp]

@Scott HD it's pretty common actually but it does not mean they are all the same.. after all why even bother with all the marketing when they can save it and sell it as a cheap coating because it will backfire if the product is inferior.

[@thwifty]

Just some unimportant notes: Lixin is pronounced as something like Li Shin. Weiruixin as Wei Rui Shin lol

[@ScottHD]

Good to know!

[@ScottHD]

So the X is pronounced like an S or SH

[@thwifty]

@@ScottHD not exactly the same, but SH is the closest pronunciation in English.

[@kimnewling5728]

Interesting

[@Nissan370_z]

I know you said it was hard to find info on foretoo 10h graphene . And is it as good as this armor stuff?

[@ScottHD]

I have foretoo in my tests and Avalon King too. Both are doing well so far.

[@djparra41]

I thought it was more well known that Avalon King was a Chinese based product?

[@ScottHD]

Apparently people didn't know this.

[@HantsLeo]

The scary thing is you can buy the same product at a fraction of the cost

[@nickdudeION09]

This is the way of the world these days. You should open up your own storefront on Amazon lolz. The more marketing the more we pay! Someone is going to be pissed at this revelation!!

[@dknights6414]

I used Avalon king and I wish I had picked something else because it failed 5-6 months after use. And I put a lot of work into prep so it was frustrating. Now I’m just using griots

[@danielcastorena3057]

When i 1st bought avalon king, it was because Man the advertiser put a huge promo code. At the time got 2 bottles and noticed Shipping was a bit sketchy as they showed avalon king somewhere in PA then the Shipping came from CA. When i got the package it looked premium but cheap, took a close look at the back tiny letters and Boom! [DESIGNED IN USA, MADE IN CHINA] 😒

[@ScottHD]

I think mine came from Chicago, Illinois area.

[@lazyjacket]

Can't wait to see if the AUTOKCAN = Avalon King, based on your testings and to how they perform. They seem to behave very much the same up to this point.

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

The quality of the product is very inconsistent. I’ve applied it 3 times now over the last year and a half. All cars prepped fully before application. Lasted not even 3 months on one car, slow sheeting on another at 6 months, and one is going strong at a year. Note: I purchased all three bottles at the same time during some promotion, ended up costing around $45 cdn per bottle I think

[@marywolford4982]

What ceramic coating is NOT made in China? If a company buys their chemicals in bulk from China and puts it into small 30 or 60 ml bottles, can they state, "proudly made in the USA" ?

[@CurlyWoof]

Pronounced "Lee-Shin" FWIW

[@ScottHD]

Thank you! I stand corrected!

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

Dude

[@rand49er]

Avalon King's advertising turned me off, so I avoided it. Just seemed kind of sleazy.

[@ScottHD]

They have KZbinrs pushing it hard because they all have a referral code that makes the pusher 20 bucks a sale or so.

[@mattheviewer]

Kinda surprising how coating mfrs push their products. Some push exclusivity (insuring a local detailer may not be able to __get__ that product). Others apparently offer kickbacks. Weird.

[@fskof]

@@ScottHD Always follow the money and the truth will be found!

[@marambula]

there’s no way i’d pay someone thousands of $$$ to wipe something on my car. paint correction (experience, skill, and tools) is a different story. but I can happily don a mask/eyeProtect/gloves and wipe a ceramic product in my vehicle. I’m confident the brands that have specialty certifications for application are also bull$$$hit

[@chriscrowell6678]

Do you really think ANY of it is made anywhere else ??? its ALL MADE IN CHINA !!! dont care if it has a big PROUDLY MADE IN THE USA or Tim Buck Too sticker all over the front of it, its all made in china, the stuff that claims it was made elsewhere is legal advertising loop holes ( they will buy the stuff for 3 dollars and make the sticker in the USA or the platic wrap etc) I dont like it either but this is the world we live in... AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE !!!!!

[@charles2235]

I love your videos in general Scott, but this is video is silly. We live in 2021, why would US products be better than Chinese, or vice versa? It has nothing to do with the country of origin, but rather the production processes and raw materials used. I have worked almost 20 years in consumer packaging goods and you would be surprised to know that about 75% of all US companies are producing in China because they are able to serve a better product to the consumer than they would otherwise be able to with the cost of goods in the US. Again, I love your videos that show longevity and testing but you should stay away from topics like this. You sound like a bitter old man that has a problem with Chinese people/companies. And honestly, I don't believe that you really are that. Just my two cents.

[@ScottHD]

Well said, and while I agree, the main point was showing that, at it's simplest, it is made in China. Several people weren't aware, and I was making it known. I did jump down the rabbit hole researching it a bit, so I might as well share that info I found.

[@charles2235]

@@ScottHD I appreciate you clarifying that. It did feel like an attack on Chinese people in general, so I am glad to hear that you don't feel like that. You are still one of the good guys on KZbin, even if I don't agree with all of your videos. :)

[@ScottHD]

@@charles2235 agreed. Not an attack on the Chinese at all.

[@lilianamontes6817]

@@charles2235 i think evrerything is made in china anyway!

[@skzion2]

What a rip-off.